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Christian Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare

go to concerts that are full of witchcraft. They do rituals. Beyonce's one of them, but Taylor Swift, she's another one. A lot of times the body of Christ has a mindset that you have to manifest, manifest, manifest. I'm not going to sit here and converse with a demon. That's necromancy. That's mediumship. The only thing I'm going to tell you if you're a devil is get out in the name of Jesus. Okay? Cuz a lot of these manifestations are literally people being torn and torn and torn. I know a person that died from a deliverance session. Should I tell you about that? For the clout and for the popularity, they want manifestation. They want a demonstration. We shouldn't do deliverance. Just cuz we want to be some big superhero and get all this manifestation. I want to see them get free. Just because a demon manifests doesn't mean doesn't mean he left. So, it's a non-negotiable. They have to go. A law that exists without being enforced. Yeah. It does no good. The authorities enforce the law. The what? When you have had an abortion, women will have miscarriages. Chance of breast cancer increases up to 150 times. Plus, they can get other cancers. Why is that? Because death has entered into their female organs. Planned Parenthood sells baby parts. They sell blood. Many of the people even in our entertainment drink the blood of these aborted babies. If the devil can get your identity, he gets your destiny. And the Lord reveals himself to me. This is not a podcast. This is a deliverance ministry. God is going to deliver just as many, if not more, here than he does inside of church buildings. And you got to keep giving yourself over to it. It's proving it to you over and over. And the weightiness of your anointing, the Lord says thousands will be delivered. Del delivered. Well, you keep watching. Click the subscribe button. I'll wait. No, seriously. Subscribe right now. Also, like and share this video. The more you like, share, comment, and engage with this video, the more we're able to produce content just like this. And also, we got this merch. Got this merch. The link is in description. If you want to support the channel, you can also donate. That's also in the description. The more you guys support, the more we're able to produce content just like this. Thank you again. Peace. I just want to say I'm excited. This this was scheduled maybe over a month ago and this is the one interview that I have been waiting for. I have been waiting to sit with you and just from the moment you stepped in, you have been dropping wisdom, wisdom, wisdom and insight. So I'm not going to waste any time. Okay. All right. All right. I'm not going to waste any time. I want to jump into it. First and foremost, some people that might turn on this YouTube channel might come come and see who is this lady? So, I just want to know kind of a bit of your story. How did you get to this place? And then we got to dive deep in some of these conversations that we've been having. So, how did you arrive to be who we see you today as? Uh, is it Minister Bev Tucker, Prophet? I just go by Pastor Bev. Pastor Bev. Okay. Pastor Bev, we want to know. We were itching to know how you have become this dynamic deliverance minister full of wisdom, full of knowledge and and authority that you move in. How did this happen? Okay. Well, it goes back to a long time ago when uh we first got saved and we moved into a house that had demons in it. Who's we? My husband and I and our three children. Okay. I'm sorry. Yes. So, yes, we purchased a home in this little town, Ber, North Dakota. Okay. And it was a beautiful piece of property. It was a small house, but it had land with it. And so we bought it for the fact that the land was there and we were going to build onto the house. Okay. So we moved in and almost from the get-go, we were new believers. Didn't know nothing at all about our authority in Christ or, you know, using the name of Jesus. We were just newly born again and on fire, filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence speaking in other tongues. And man, we were like on fire. Okay. So, I'm sure we probably caused a lot of friction in the house, but irregardless, uh, they practice roso karushian in that house, which is a really, uh, is it like it's one of the cults that's the closest to the old cults. Got a lot of witchcraft in it. Mormons use things from it. Uh, Freemasons do. It's has a lot of Egyptian witchcraft, a lot of different things. Then uh these people who had lived there prior, it was an older couple. He had died. She sold it to us and um just she moved. So anyway, it was like a house with a detached garage. Okay. So when we moved in, we began to have manifestations of weird things happening in the house and not fully understanding what was going on. But the number one thing that I dealt with was fear. And I had such a fear for my children in that house. And they were raged from 98 and a four-year-old. Okay. So, um, when they'd go to bed, I just would go sit on the stairway and just, you know, pray for them cuz I just had this icky feeling in the house. Uh, what I learned though by being there in that house is that there's a difference between oult fear and regular fear. Okay, there's a difference. Well, you know, we can be afraid of things and have fear like maybe of getting up and ministering or, you know, taking on new things, but an oult fear is like a cold deadly fear. It's just like you can it it's oult. So, it's it's just at another level, but I believe it's well, when I get into the rest of this, what happened in the house, I believe that was part of it. So, we had things happen like we would get an odor of something dead coming up out of the register and it would come sometimes and not other times where if we had a dead mouse or something, it would have stayed. Yeah. And this dead smell would come up like a dead body. And so I would wonder if maybe that old woman had killed her husband and stuffed him in the registers or, you know, I just but I didn't know. And so then one night too, I was sleeping and this like it was this long, this wide, cold black furry thing slithered across my face. And the reason I across your face, right across my face. And it was like and I I that's I could see it, but I couldn't see it. So it was like I was discerning in the spirit because you could see it, but not like we see in the physical realm. Okay. So then we would get a smell of sulfur all the time and they say when there's the smell of sulfur that means there's a portal to hell. Yeah. And so definitely that house was a portal to hell but again because of what they practice there too. But so um then one night we came home from church and I'm trying to think if there's any other major incidences but we came we weren't did live there. It burned down after 3 months. But we came home from church and my husband and I had this big fight coming home from church. And so we get out of the car and get the kids in the house and he's mad and I'm mad and he walks down by the w the property border to river and I just felt like the Lord said just pray for him. So I didn't want to because I was mad at him but I did. And and you remember we're new Christians, so we're like it's still in the flesh more than anything else. But so anyway, um he came back in the house and when he came back in he said there was this like this man standing just like watching him as he walked up to the house from the river. And then he said to me, he said be he said it was easier before we found the Lord than it is now. And I said, "I know." Cuz see, we moved into that house. And not that it's not hard once you find the Lord, but it was like all hell broke loose from that house. So anyway, um I said, "Yeah." I said, "But we can't give up." And so when I said that, all of a sudden, over in the corner of the bedroom stood this thing, and it was the entire uh size of the house in in height. It was wide and it emanated a hatred from it that the only way you could describe the hate would be go to its opposite which is the love of God. So as much as God loves us, the devil the devil hates you equally as much as the love of God. That's strong in that. That's what it emanated out of its being. And then it also emanated a coldness that was colder than ice. And I believe that's death. And so I believe that what we felt with that really cold cold feeling of what the the coldness that came out of out of that being was not just death but is the darkness and of the oult that's witchcraft or whatever part of the oult you're in. So I looked at it not knowing even how to take authority over it but I just looked at it and I said you cannot be here. were children of the king. And boom, it left immediately. But three days later, we'd gone to a church service. This was on a Sunday night. We went to a Wednesday night service. And while we were at the service, the police came in looking for us. And they came in to inform us our house had just burned to the ground. So, we lost everything we had. And I mean, we lost everything we had. The only thing we had left probably was a few boxes that were in the garage because remember I said the garage was detached. Yes. And I was just so glad to get out of that house. I didn't What do you think happened? Why do you think it burned down? Uh I think because of that night when I rebuked it, we really riled it up. But we didn't leave alone. So the story goes on. So I was happy to get out of that house even though I lost everything. I didn't care because I was away from that horrible house and just you know the feeling and the hearing things and stuff like that and for my kids mostly. So we ended up, it was a boom town, so we ended up moving into an apartment building and um then we started really having a lot of behavior issues with one of our kids more than the other two. And he would kind of like act up at school but not at home. So we weren't aware of it for a while. And his behaviors kept getting worse and worse. We moved then about that time from from uh Bulan, North Dakota to Rockford, Illinois here. And we took him, we started going to another church, put him in a Christian school here. Mhm. And they had trouble with him immediately cuz he was very rebellious, you know, from all this stuff. And so then we went and we talked to our pastor and we because one day my son came to me and he says, "Mom," he says, "It's like something gets a hold of me." And so with behavior, his school, his grade, everything went down. And so we're praying, but again, if you don't do what Jesus said, cast them out, you're going to still keep dealing with the problems. And that's what people deal with today. We don't do deliverance, so people are dealing with their problems, the their dysfunctions. But anyway, we took him to a pastor and that we were going to their church and he said they said, "Bring him in. We'll talk to him." So they brought him in and or we brought him in and they talked with him and we went to pick him up and they said, "Well, we don't think he's got any demons. We just don't believe y'all are disciplining him enough and you need to discipline your son more." So we endeavored then to try to incorporate more deliverance or more discipline and we just kind of felt like we had were failing our son because I don't know I guess we would yell but not I don't know. We didn't really know how to discipline him either. But you know, we both came from families of unbelievers, so we certainly had no background in Christianity. But anyway, what we did was we tried to discipline him more. Did not work. And the behavior just kept getting worse and worse and worse. And ran away from school home a couple of times during high school. And at that time, my husband was working nights. So, I was dealing with it all by myself. And it was just like chaos in our home. I was I knew I was dealing with the demonic. Uh my husband and I actually tried to do some deliverance on him. It didn't work because we didn't know what we were doing. And so, like I say, it just kept getting worse. We were kind of like dealing with everything in the physical, not the spiritual realm. So, we would, you know, I even took him down one day by myself and he is bigger than me, but he he was always respectful. He would, you know, never hit me. But anyway, so uh that went on finally uh he gets we did get him out of high school and uh so then he joined the army. Well, first he went to one one year one semester of college and unbeknown to us dropped out of college and joined the army which we were really upset about but you can't do nothing. They're of age. So he went into the army actually went down to Fort Benning, Georgia and Okay. And things began to really kind of happen in his life then because all of a sudden he's out from under mom and dad's covering. So at that point one day he calls me because things are really falling apart in his life. He says, "Mom, I need to get help." So what my husband and I used to do too with our kids when uh like he was home during the day cuz he worked nights and every week we'd go lay on their beds and pray in tongues. Wow. 30 minutes for each every one of them. And just because we just we were waring against so many things and not knowing how to get him back, we would pray in tongues over him. And he said to me later as he got older and got delivered, he said, "Mom, I could always tell when you and dad had been in my room praying because those demons couldn't come in and torment me at night." So the power of praying in the spirit is huge. But anyway, he called us and he said, "Mom, I need to get help." Well, so then we knew it was deliverance and we knew we had to go find someone to help us. So I started calling all these TV ministries. Found out none of them do anything like that for you. So I won't get into that. So I didn't know what to do. And the Lord said to me, "Go get your book." Well, I had this book that I had purchased maybe a year or two before that. and it was called Deliverance, Curses, Unforgiveness, Bitterness, and Deliverance or Curses, something like that. And so he said, "Go get it." And I had brought that book home because I thought, "No, I don't really believe in curses." So I put the book in the bookshelf. And that day, the Lord said, "Go get that book." So I did. And I forgot I even had it. So I knew it was Holy Spirit that had told me. So then I went and got it. And on the back of the book, there was a picture of the guy. and he said, "If you need help, my wife and I do deliverance in our home." And he gave his phone number. So I called him that day, told him our story about the house, all the behavior things, the battles we were cuz like he was eight. So here he is now in his early 20s. So you can see the long extended time that we dealt with these demonic. Our lives were really like hell, literally. So I understand when people say what they're going through, they're going through that. You know, it's no joke. And so, uh, I called the guy, explained to him what we were had gone through, what had happened in that home, and that we really believed that some spirits had gotten a hold of him. And he said, well, he said, I can help him, but he said, he's going to have to call me himself because he's a young adult, and he has to make the decision because it's a decision. You You can get free if you want to. So, he's Yeah. Yeah. So if you don't if you and that's I always tell this to when I do my teachings that if you got some demons you want to keep you can keep those demons but we probably won't get too much off. I can tell you a story about that with that later as we go. But so he said he's going to have to call me himself cuz he's going to have to want to be free. So I called my son, gave him the guy's number said give him a call. He did. So then I called the guy back and I said can we come too? My husband and I. So he said sure you guys can come. So then we drove all the way down to Georgia to get our son because we knew those spirits would never let him get to that deliverance minister. So we picked him up. So you didn't believe he would he would make it on his own? No, I did not. No. Uh and later on we ended up taking another one of our uh children cuz the guy said, "You need all of you need to go through deliverance. Y'all lived in that house." So even though there were things maybe we were unaware of, he said, "Y'all need deliverance from living in that house." Wow. And our other son we took, I mean, it was like everything came against him. We didn't He was at ORU at the time. We didn't uh go get him. We flew him in, but it was like everything came against him. By the time he got there, he was so upset. But anyway, that's another story. But so that day, so we went and got him, brought him to that guy's house, and that day he walked him through deliverance, and it literally changed his life. And so he had to go back a few more times, which is another because it is a process. Some people think, you know, deliverance is like boom and I'm free. But you know what? We we are, you know, even like Israel, God doesn't do abracadabra. He don't do magic, too, by the way. So I always say that you You know, there was a guy, I listened to him talk about deliverance, and this is what he said. It's so good. He said, "Salvation's free, but your deliverance is going to cost you." And it does. Deliverance costs us. It does. It's a process. Just like when Israel went into the promised land and God has said, "I gave you the land. It's yours. Go in and possess it." But the word possess means dispossess if you look it up. So they had to go in and dispossess every demonic entity, all of the itites, did they not? Yeah. And they took them one by one by one. Well, that's kind of how we are in this land here. We're made out of the dirt. I have to take various areas of my life back. And so we can take our lives back. We can take our families back. We can take our generations back. Thank you, Jesus. Whoa. Okay. That's so good. That's so good. that possess and dispossess. Yeah, that is fire. Okay, so now we see how you guys are introduced to deliverance and the capacity. You guys were already saved, guys already filled with the spirit, but now you see the power of deliverance and is that what led you to now you're in this position? Well, that day when when we left that guy's house and you know, we always had kind of believed in deliverance, but when we went to our pastor, we kind of got poo pooed with it and then we had tried it. nothing worked. So, we knew we were dealing with the demonic, but we didn't understand deliverance. But I did I did know, and that's why I called the TV ministers saying, you know, we need somebody to walk us through deliverance. But that guy that day, his name was Roger. Uh I don't believe they do deliverance at all anymore because they were older, but okay. Anyway, he uh gave us his manual, that book again, and a set of tapes. So, you kind of tell how long ago it was. cuz we don't use tapes anymore, but we took them home and put everything in the closet. We had it didn't even cross our mind to do deliverance ourselves. We just likeoo, we got rid of those demons. We're happy now. He's our son's going to keep going back to him. We're good. What's going on, family? It's Ezekiel, and I'm here to let you know that we need to heal is right around the corner. May 2nd to the 3rd, Dallas, Texas. People have registered from all across the country, and I don't want you to miss it. Listen, I have never anticipated a move of God like I am this one. The enemy knows that these people are getting set free. If you have long-standing issues, you have a broken family, a broken marriage, troubled children, uh diseases, whatever it may be, I dare you to bring the hard, bring the difficult, bring the impossible, and watch God do what only God can do. We have some of the most powerful speakers from all across the country that are going to join us that night to teach, to pray, and of course, yes, the captives will be set free. And I cannot wait to see you there. Yes, the enemy is trembling in his boots, but we're going to stand together and trust in Jesus Christ to do what only he can do. Will you meet us there May 2nd to the 3rd? We need to heal Dallas, Texas. Peace. Well, we were back about a week except the guy did tell us, you know, again, like I said, we all needed to go back and we did go back a few more times, but I think we were back two weeks from him and all of a sudden we get a phone call from someone we didn't know and he said, "God told me that that you could help me." So, I said he did. And he starts telling us all these things and I'm the kind of person, and so is my husband, that if somebody needs help, we're going to help him. M we're going to figure this out. Even though you didn't know, we didn't know what we were doing. So, what we did is that we literally took like the manual and we're like, "Okay." So, we tried to figure it out. We didn't do a great job, but we well, I shouldn't say we didn't. Jesus, I guess, showed up on the on the scene. That was it. We knew we could cast him out. He was uh dealing with witchcraft. He had a bloodline of that. He was Hispanic. He um dealt with um lust and alcohol and cocaine. So, Holy Spirit is just leading us in what to call out of him cuz we weren't too sharp when it it was our first case. So, uh even with his heart when we commanded cocaine to leave him and God told us to command the drugs out by name, too. So, if you're going to command cocaine out, if they're using cocaine, you don't speak to heroin. you speak to cocaine, it's demons. Okay? So, when we commanded cocaine to leave him, it manifested and left. And then the Lord said, "Command cocaine uh infirmity, the infirmity of cocaine to come out of his heart." Literally, when we did, and I didn't know that cocaine will literally cause all sorts of heart issues with a person if they you they're using it. Really? Yeah. And God healed that guy's heart that day. He had heart issues when we called the cocaine out of his heart, the spirit of infirmity from the cocaine. He got healed. He got delivered of the alcohol. He got delivered of the lust. And we began to break off the witchcraft. Um, we spent six solid hours on the poor guy. So, um, we anointed him and anoint every I think every demon we called out of him, we anointed him. Which that's got a funny story for it. I don't normally tell this, but I think I'm going to tell it. But anyway, he got so radically free that he started sending addicts to us to get free. So we have all these people who are finding Jesus but not getting free of the addiction calling us. So our that's basically how our ministry started was praying for all these people who were wanting to get out of addiction and get free. So you basically stumbled into it by way of the Holy Spirit. By way of the Holy Spirit. talked to him and said, "You guys could help me." Yeah. And we didn't know him at all. So, I don't know if he had seen us somewhere, but he got my number. I have no idea where he got our number. Just called us and said, "God told me you could help me." And it's like, he did. But we thought, "Okay, we'll do this." You know, we didn't know for sure what we were doing. But then that's like I say, all these um people started coming to us. And then we went from there to word of mouth, other people coming in that maybe weren't addicts, but they had other issues and and we'd pray for them. And sometimes we'd come up against some things where we couldn't get them to move. So I would call Roger and I'd say, "Roger, I'm not getting this demon to go." And then he'd always take me back to the manual. He'd say, "Be you're breaking the legal rights." And a lot of times I would skip that. But de the I always say that the devil is a legalist. God is not a legalist. God is a God of mercy. But the devil, if you got anything, you've opened doors or your bloodlines opened doors, he's got a legal right. And so those legal rights have to be broken because again, he's a legalist. God is a God of mercy. But you know what? The devil tries to tip it over and and make it look like God's the legalist and he's not. It's interesting that you say that because it seems like the enemy wants to go into the extreme of everything that God is not. First, you started with the love. He's extreme hatred. God exudes grace. He's a legalist. I There was a um this man who was into Luciferianism and witchcraft and all that type of stuff. And he said when it came to doing the spells and doing all the rituals, he said Satan himself, because he had encounters with Satan, Satan made it mandatory that there was no words skipped. Oh, sure. Nothing missed. And if you did the spell and said anything wrong, he made sure it didn't work until you did it exactly the way he did it. And look at the foundation of the way that God built your deliverance ministry. If you had built it on the fact that you went to school for it, you read all the books and you felt empowered to do it based on what you did. The foundation of your deliverance ministries would have been on what you did. But rather, it was trust in God. Like I'm about to lean on the Holy Spirit. we don't know what we're doing. I Lord, we're going with you. We love this guy. We want to help this guy. And it was from there he blew it up. And and deliverance is a ministry of love and compassion. That's what it is. Come on. Because you know, and I said this to you earlier, but we've experienced the very compassion of Jesus, which is at a level that goes way beyond a normal human being's compassion. And I have felt it when when I've been ministering to people, the compassion and the love of God and it's so supernatural that you know it's not you cuz it's so good. It's so good. You just you the love you have for these people sometimes when you're praying for them and the compassion over what they've had to go through, you know. But I was going to say something too. One of the reasons that the devil like made them do all the spells perfectly and not miss a word is because those are all little things that he tries to hold people with so he can can not get them free because he's a legalist. He has to have every eye dotted, every tea cross because those are the little things he tries to hold people with. And again, that's why we need the Holy Spirit, the the gifts of the spirit in operation. And I believe the church is going to be walking back in the gifts of the spirit because we have to. This is why I said about fasting and praying. We have got to start fasting. Pray more because we going to have to step up to a cutting edge because of how the enemy has laid his foundation with people and it's demonic. But that's why when these people get into that sometimes people have a difficulty getting free. Oh my. So, but we can get a word of knowledge. Yes. And we can break it. Yeah. Some deliverance ministry ministers were telling me that deliverance ministry, it goes hand in hand with the gifts of the Holy Spirit, word of knowledge, and hand. Yeah. He was like, if you're if you can't hear from God, you're not going to have a faith. Nope. Discerning of spirits, uh, miracles because every demon you cast out is a manifestation of the miracle gifts of the Holy Spirit because it's it's a super. What do you mean by that? What did you mean by that? because it's a miraculous gift to make those be able to leave that's the working of miracles or like okay I did a girl you know I was talking about being in Houston doing a conference I did a young woman and actually she's been helping me with my conference but anyway she I prayed with her and we were just I don't know I I did her history you know background and everything was walking her through deliverance and she got some really amazing deliverance but what else happened was she had had pain in her uh womb for over two years which she did not tell me about but God healed her supernaturally as we were removing the demonic. That was miraculous. She has had no pain since no pain since that awesome. Let's get into it because okay there's so much that I'm I'm learning. Um, so first and foremost, I was talk talking to you about because we're gonna I got a lot of things that I'm gonna throw at you. Okay, good. First and foremost, Christians and deliverance. It seems like we should be past deliverance. Deliverance is not something that Christians should be dealing with. That's these are charlatans. These are charismatics that have gone to the extreme. All the craziness and the hoopla of just wanting to be crazy and the whole demon. Like why are we talking about deliverance when the Holy Spirit cannot occupy the space of uh the same space as a demon? Yes. And that's not true. He can he can let me tell you why. Okay, we know we got the Holy Ghost, right? I know I got the Holy Ghost. Okay, I know I got Jesus. Okay, but um I'm going to back you up with that. I the scripture I used before was the fact that uh when Jesus said uh that a devil goes out looking for rest and doesn't find rest comes back to its house that's empty swept and clean. Well, I'm no longer empty. So if those demons are cast out, they just cannot see. The devil can't come into my life without a right, without some type of a legal right to get into my life. That means I So that means simply I've been delivered of a whole lot of things. They can't come back because number one, Jesus is in the house and I'm not going to go sin and give the devil a legal right and I'm not going back into my mother's womb and getting born again so I don't got all this bloodline stuff that I've taken care of. Okay, so it says he comes back to the house but that's empty, swept and clean. We're not empty. So the devil just can't come back in once you get free. Okay. But then in Matthew 5, when the woman, it was a cyber phoenician woman, brought her daughter, her demon-possessed daughter to Jesus to get him her delivered. Jesus said to her, "Healing is the children's bread." So he said two things really there. He said healing. He called deliverance healing is what he did because the the issue was deliverance, but deliverance is healing. And then he said it's the children's spread. Who are the children? we are. So she what does it do? She worshiped him. She came and worshiped. She bowed her knee to the Lord and became his and then he delivered her daughter. Okay. But the thing of it is is that we can have have spirits and even if I as a Christian this is serious because we have this happening today where Christians think they can go out and play around with witchcraft, go to concerts that are full of witchcraft. And I'll tell you what these are out there. They're horrible. Most of them you got to go through a portal to even a demonic portal. They do rituals. All of those. And so Beyonce's one of them. But uh let's say Taylor Swift, she's another one. They are doing rituals. And then our young people go, they go in through theirs and they're really passing through portals. There's been rituals done. All those things. So anyway, going back to being a believer, can the Holy Spirit be in the same place as a believer? He can. When I invited in Jesus, I certainly wasn't perfect. I certainly had issues. I demonic things I still had to get rid of. Okay? And some of them have been like a spirit of rejection, bitterness, fear, all you know, all those an different things like that. Okay? Those were all spiritual forces that years later after getting into deliverance, we just cast them out of ourselves. But going back to this, so in 2 Corinthians chap 7 verse one, I believe it's 2 Corinthians, uh Paul said, let your your uh cleanse your whole spirit and body from all defilement. So in that, so can your spirit man be defiled? How could your spirit man def be defiled? Cuz Christians say, "Oh, the Holy Ghost lives in my spirit." So, and demons can't be in there. I believe that witchcraft will taint your spirit, the very spirit of a man. And so, he says, I do you have that? Could you look that up on your phone? Second, look it up in the Amplified Bible. Second Corinthians 7:1. And just read that really quick to me. Corinthians 7:1. Got you. Hold on. got amplified. Yeah. Amp. All right. And it says, "Therefore, since we have these great and wonderful promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, completing holiness, living a consecrated life, a life set apart for God's purpose and the fear of God." So, let us cleanse everything that contaminates spirit. Yes. and we say, "Well, our spirit can't be contaminated because we're born again and we got the Holy Ghost." Well, that's what you just read. Then, if you go to Thessalonians 5, 1 Thessalonians 5, it says, "I pray that your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of the Lord." So, if he had to say, "My," he didn't just say, "I pray that your whole soul and body be preserved blameless." He said, "I pray your whole spirit, soul, and body." So, can I cuz he's talking to the Christian there. Wow. So, can I as a Christian defile my spirit man? Can I jo Well, in in Jesus said, "Don't join yourself to a prostitute because you're going to become one." Well, how if you become one with someone, are we not a spirit, soul, and a body? So, I'm joining the whole man. I'm not, okay, spirit, you stay here. I'm just going to join my soul and my body to this other person. No, you're joining the whole man. Okay. So, when we break even soul ties, we break ungodly spirit, soul, and body ties because I want to be disconnected all the way across. You know, if you're Okay. But, but in that, when we as Christians think we can partake of things, God forbids in his word and not defile ourselves. That's not true. We can't. That's why those right there that your spirit and body that you cleanse yourself of all defilement then don't join yourself to a prostitute because you become one. Okay. Well, if I become one with a prostitute or with another person, I'm a spirit of soul. I am a spirit. I have a soul and I live in a body. I'm going to end up joining the whole person to that person. And then again, Thessalonians, 1 Thessalonians 5, I think it's verse 18. But I pray that your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless. Well, that means then if we do things we should and I believe that witchcraft is the number one thing that can defile your spirit. Oh my gosh. I I want to hear a little bit about some of the things that you encountered in the process of trying to deal with this stuff. One of the things you said when we were talking off camera was about manifestation, right? Oh, okay. Yeah. And how manifestation is not the same as deliverance. It's not. It's not. So, a lot of times the body of Christ has a mindset that you have to manifest, manifest, manifest to get delivered. And what I find with people is that a lot of people will manifest, but they're still not getting delivered. So, one thing I always say is manifestation is not deliverance. It's manifestation, okay? It's not deliverance. So, and I said to you earlier, I I believe a lot of this stuff we can bring under control. And the reason I believe that is because the devil's not in charge. We are. Who's been given the authority and who's been stripped of authority? Even if I mess up and open a door, but I get myself right then, okay? Because if we confess our sins, he's faithful and just to forgive us. I'm reinstated. I tell I taught a few weeks ago, don't surrender your authority to the devil. Adam and Eve, we all get on their case. They surrendered their authority to the devil, did they not? But so do we. We've had all authority returned back to us. Jesus died, stripped the devil of his authority, put it back in the church. But we surrender our authority when we go out and participate. Or do you know if I walk in insecurity, inferiority, if I listen to the voices that want to come against me and I believe them and I act on that, I just surrendered my authority over to the enemy rather than take take authority over him and say no, you spirit of rejection, you spirit of intimidation, you spirit of fear, you go in the name of Jesus and if I walk in it, I surrendered the authority I have over to him and allowed them him to work in that. But going back to the manifestation. So, uh I think I just shared with you we had a a gal at the conference who she was on the floor manifesting, manifesting, manifesting, manifesting. And I went over there and one of the people who were praying with her said, "We just can't get her to free get free. We're not getting her free." So I said, "Get her up." So I got her up and I said, "What's what?" I asked her what her name was. Not the devil. I'm going to get into that, too. Okay. Yeah. About asking the devil his name all the time. I want to hear what you got to say about that. All right. All right. So, I wanted to know what her name was. Well, she was manifesting. Actually, one of her friends did. And I'm just going to say they said it was Mary. Okay. Because we're on the mic here. So, anyway, so I said, "Okay, Mary, I want to talk to you. I don't want to talk to this demon." I said, "Mary, come on. Get back up here." Because what will happen sometimes when we are going through devil's deliverance, the devil, especially if it's strong stuff, wants to push the person down and then it wants to manifest. Well, I'm not going to sit here and converse with a demon. That's necromancy. That's mediumship. I don't want to talk to the devil. The only thing I'm going to tell you if you're a devil is get out in the name of Jesus. Okay, let's go. So, I want to talk to this person because this is your house. This is your vessel. Come on. Tell this thing to get out. If we got to pray and break a legal right, let let's do that right now. Let's pray. Let's break this regal legal right so that you can get free. I told her, take a deep breath. Expel it, but don't keep letting it tear you and tear you and tear you. Because a lot of these manifestations are literally people being torn and torn and torn. You know, I know a person that died from a uh from a deliverance session. Should I tell you about that one? Yeah. You want to hear that one? This is horrible. So we this is a true story because it's it's our story but we didn't he didn't die from us but anyway we used to go to the rescue mission here locally and I would go like my group we would go once a month and other churches would go and so we had this guy come who was he'd been an cocaine addict and rescue missions where they take in all the people who are street drugs and living on homeless people and so we started ministering to him he got free of He's another one that got free of cocaine, a cocaine heart. Uh, all the symptoms and manifestations of of of the physical damage he'd done to his heart. When he went back to a doctor, he was completely healed. He was uh had been an addict. We prayed and broke that off of him. And uh homosexuality. Well, again, and maybe I need to go into I'll do it after this. process of why healing or excuse me deliverance can be a a process. Okay. Some and and if I cast a certain demon out of you that's going to go right away. But you got other areas in your life that we need to visit and deal with. Okay. So we prayed with him and we'd get to go once a month. So every time we do do it, you know, he'd be there and he'd be so happy to see us. He was doing so good. And but there was another minister in in town that wanted to do deliverance. To me, I think he was a wannabe minister, too. I don't believe he was called, but he got him to come to his church. When he took it got him to the church, they decided to do deliverance on him. And they wrestled him to the ground. And the guy fought manifestation, manifestation. He ended up with a hernia from the deliverance session. Had to go to the hospital. had to have surgery. The medical drugs ended up they put him on drugs and medical drugs. The medical drugs kicked him back on the street drugs and he overdosed and died and we lost him. Ain't that ridiculous? How horrible was that? We didn't see him for a long, long time. And I had asked someone, you know, I don't know what ever happened to him. And they said, I do. Let me just tell you what happened. And they knew the story of what had happened to them. So, do people get hurt sometimes through deliverance? They do. If you're going to see as believers, and this is an edge we need to get. We shouldn't do deliverance just because we want to be some big super hero and get all this manifestation. I want to see them get free. Oh, God. I want to see your life changed. I want to see you walking in victory and getting out of the torment. I don't care about the manifestations. And there will be sometimes manifestation. I'm not saying there won't be manifestation. But you don't have to let the devil completely tear you and halfkill you. I like say hospitalize you. So what I did with this girl that day though, I got her to connect with me and then I took two of my team people and I said, "I want you just take her back and find out what the legal rights are and walk her through deliverance so she can get free." And they went took her in the back and prayed with her. But I just told her, "Take a deep breath. Breathe it out. Spirit is breath. That's what it is." I I guess the heart is completely different. You said, "I want them to be set free. I'm not interested in the manifestation." I think sometimes this is a correction. We've been getting a lot of correction for the deliverance minister. You see it on the TV and you're hearing these people, what's your name? And they're they're spending long getting long conversations with these demons. And I think for the views, for the clout, and for the popularity, they want manifestations. They want a demonstration. They want a show. They want these demons to act out visibly so the audience can see, oh, this man of God has powers. One thing you said, I guess earlier, was just because a demon manifests doesn't mean he left. Doesn't mean he left. And sometimes you might just get some little surface devils off, but you did you get the strong man out? Did you get him out? And so when I watch it, I absolutely really dislike TV uh uh deliverance sessions because what's the purpose of that? So you watch this horrible session going on and it it's for the the man or woman of God to make them look like this big tough, you know, mean green machine for Jesus, you know, and it's like, excuse me, that person, you just made a spectacle out of themsel and you platformed yourself. You made yourself to be a star. There's one star. It's Jesus. That's it. So anyway, um, going back to that, when we first got into it and and we were sometimes would come up against some hard things, Roger would just simply say, "Bev, go back and break the legal rights." I remember one time doing a corporate deliverance. And it was like nothing happened. And so I call Roger again and he said, "Bev, did you take time to walk him through some prayers to break legal rights?" I did it because I thought that was like, "Nah, we don't really need to do that. You need to do that. The devil is a legalist. He's a legalist. And he's going to hold you to everything. All you got to do is repent and renounce those things and come out of agreement. Now, you might need to go home and clean your house out cuz don't expect to get free at some some church session or conference and then harbor all these things in your house too. Your house needs to be cleansed. I'm not against manifestation, but if that's all you're getting is manifestation and you're not getting the person free, then you need to go back and and you know, like I say, sometimes just maybe stop the session because there you're not getting the person free. So somewhere there's a legal right because it's a non-negotiable. Jesus said you'll cast out demons. So it's a non-negotiable. They have to go. They have to go. So if they're not leaving then there's some reason for that that something that gave them a legal right maybe maybe it's like if I get into this too where it could be the soul has been captured the soul has been hunted soul's been fragmented those are different broken parts of your life that have to be dealt with but to literally go through deliverance those demons it's a non-negotiable they have to leave they're they're already been disarmed armed, made a bold display of triumphed over in the cross and brought to nothing. I like what you said because I never heard it like that. You said it's non-negotiable. They have to go. They have to go. So, you walk in with the understanding, with the affirmation, knowing that no demon can stay where they don't belong. Nope. I I go in and if I do, like when I'm doing a session, I don't go in, well, I wonder if this demon's going to leave. No, let's let's get the person's history. Okay. If I'm doing a one-on-one, okay, and let's uh and then I'll get into like a corporate deliverance, too. But if if I'm doing a one-on-one, I'm going to get your history. I'm going to find out what your mama, daddy, grandma, grandpa did that we might need to cancel and break. Okay? We do that. Uh then doors they've opened up. uh things like if they were ever molested or violated or abused growing up because then I know I'm probably going to be dealing with a fragmented soul from the trauma and which is another part of that and I'll get into that in a moment. So I do that we go through and we will pray to break legal rights. So usually I spend if I'm doing a one-on-one I usually spend three hours with a person two to three hours but we clean house. So, I always say this, some deliverance ministers say it's like peeling back an onion. Yes. I say it this way. If I tell you I'm going to clean my house, this is a house. If I say I'm going to clean my house, I'm talking physical house and I clean my kitchen. I didn't clean my house. I have bedrooms. I have living room, dining room, I have uh have uh wreck room. I got all these rooms in my house. Well, I got all these rooms here, too. I might have a four-year-old room, a 10-year-old room. I might have a room I where I had an abortion something I need to go visit. So if I'm just going to go boom boom boom but I don't take the time. And so sometimes that's this which is why deliverance is a process. We've had absolute miraculous outcomes with women who have had abortions by literally going in and taking them off the abortion table because that part of their soul was fragmented and stuck there. which I'll tell you that story in a minute that I want to talk about the soul the souls being captured. I want to talk about the fragmented soul but when you and also I think the for someone who's going into deliverance I'll just speak for myself. If I'm about to if I walked into a situation and I'm praying I'm praying and I don't believe that person got delivered immediately I'll think something's wrong with me. I didn't pray enough. I'm I'm I'm a fraud or I'm not powerful enough. And when you were sharing to me about fasting and prayer earlier, you were talking about it's for clarity so that you can hear from God. I remember when Jesus told the disciples, these kind come out, but these kinds cannot come out except with fasting and prayer. I'm not sure it was about Jesus saying this will make you more powerful or this will give you more clarity. Right? Because when Jesus cast out the same demon that they couldn't cast out, he called it out by thou deaf and dumb spirit. Mhm. All the disciples knew was that there was a spirit that was throwing this kid into the fire. Yes. And if you go back when Jesus got baptized, the Holy Spirit came on him. He operated in the Holy Spirit, didn't he? So the disciples at that point were not born again, but they got born again. And we are born again and we got the Holy Ghost. Gotcha. So the same Holy Spirit Jesus walked in, we have because everything Jesus did, he did it as a man so that we would know we can do it as mankind. Same thing. So do we need the Holy Spirit? 100%. We don't do this on our own. We do it all in Christ. All in the power of the Holy Spirit, which again, okay, so going back to fasting and prayer, I need fasting. um causes you to your flesh to quiet down. So sharpens my spirit man. Okay. So I need my spirit man, my discerner. I need to be hearing accurately. I need to be hearing minutely. People who want to prophesy need to get delivered. Duh. You want to know why they need to get delivered? We filter through all of our demonic stuff. So you got a prophet out there that's like this guy from corn this years ago. this guy from Korn, I don't know if you remember, he got saved. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they would on their their some of their songs, they would have like 30 minutes silence. Nothing but silence. And people would listen to their silence. Why? Because those were demons in the background. Demons chant in in these when those rock stars are doing it. They're in the background chanting. But they would have this 30 minutes of silence and really in the spirit demons were chanting. Well, they were they were really into some horrible bad stuff, but the one guy gets saved. So then I saw him on TBN and they were interviewing him and he looked horrible. He looked like death warmed over. And as I watch that, I thought, "Oh my goodness, this poor guy needs deliverance so bad. So bad." So when he sings, who's singing through him? Okay. Or do we have mixture going on here? See, if we don't get delivered, this is another reason why Christians can't be dabbling in witchcraft. It's mixture. Let me say this. In the Old Testament, when God said not to crossbreed animals, come on. Okay? He said he forbid us to do that and crossbreed certain seeds. Okay? Why? Because it made the what came out of that was impotent. So if we think we can take Christ and bring in mixture of witchcraft, why is the church impotent? See, it's time we repent. It's time we come out from among them, isn't it? So when you're when for me, like for me, this is why I'm dealing with so much stuff with people uh really bound with some witchcraft stuff. So I need to hear, Holy Spirit, what's going on here? What is there a covenant here? Initiation here? What's going on here? Because my heart is to help them. Now, if I go and pray with somebody and they don't get delivered, well, we're just going to do another session. That that's all. I don't feel like I failed. I just think we just need to find out some more stuff. I we need to hear the Holy Ghost. You go home and you pray. That's what I tell them. You pray and you ask God, "What else? What else?" And let's do another session because we have a right. Healing deliverance is the children's bread. It is our right as believers to be free. I don't care if that was for anybody else. That was for me. Yeah. But it's true. Oh my gosh. Okay. Okay. That I don't know. I'm sorry that it's taking me a while because I need to really sit and digest with that because I know that God is calling me in this arena. Okay. Now, let's keep going. So, you're talking about souls being captured. Okay. Can I say one more thing about manifestation before we go on? Okay. Because I want to I don't want people to feel like something's wrong with them if they manifest. Okay. Yes. So, manifestation can very much be a part of deliverance, but it's not the manifestation that says you got free, it's the deliverance. And so, you don't always have to have these violent, horrible manifestations. You just have to realize that you have the right to be free. Break the legal rights. I tell people like I did at the conference. You pray and we did teaching because teaching will spot. This will put its finger on what you're dealing with. Okay? So, I know I've taught things on rejection. People go, "That's what's wrong with me. I never knew that." Well, now you got its number, so let's go after it. But when you're in a huge group of people and you're doing corporate deliverance, it's going to be harder for you as the deliverance minister to keep everything in order. Okay? So, you probably will have some manifestations. This way, we have workers that work with them to go down there with them and try to help them take just take a deep breath, break some legal rights. We will talk with them. But again, there will be manifestation. But again, we work to minimize the manifestation and get the person free because you have a right. You don't have to just manifest, manifest, manifest. You can get free at these conferences, too. So So, so what you're saying is because this is going to shift people's mind. The goal is not manifestation. No, it's getting free. And that's a non-negotiable. And let me say this, you know, I out of Colossians 2:15, I always say because I said to you, we deal with a different devil than Jesus did. What do you mean? Okay. The devil that Jesus dealt with was a devil who had usurped his authority from Adam and Eve and was operating and walking in that authority when Jesus was on the earth. So Jesus had to deal with him from that aspect because he had taken him to the cross yet, had he? M so when the devil said to Jesus, "If you'll bow down and worship me, I'll give you all these kingdoms." He didn't argue with him cuz the kingdoms were the devils at that point. We deal with a devil. Colossians 2:15 that Jesus disarmed, made a bold display of triumphed over in the cross in Hebrews 2:14 brought to nothing. But then let's go back to another Colossians 2:14. And this is for if you feel you're not good enough as a believer. Okay? Okay. You and and sometimes uh you need to believe what God says about you and not what the devil says about you. Come on. He says he became sin. He who knew no sin that you might become the very righteousness of God in Christ. You can't get better than the righteousness of God. You can't get better than me. I'm the righteousness of God. Now, you can be just as good as me. Yeah. But how could you get better than the righteousness of God? That's who we are. And the devil knows it. He don't want us to know it. But if you go to Colossians, because he knows we're a force to be reckoned with. If when we know who we are in Christ, so if you go to Colossians 2:14, just before it tells us that Jesus disarmed him, made a bold display of him, it says that he took and he nailed the code. The decree that was against you was nailed to the cross. Do you know what that means? You know what code is? That's all your DNA coding. All your generational demons, all that junk was nailed to the cross. So therefore, he has he has no legal right over my life. And all I have to do for anything where he's gained access is break it. Wow. Take it back. Take it back. Because just like Jesus paid for everything, we still have to enforce that victory of Calvary, do we not? You said enforce it. We have to enforce the victory of Calvary. Just because a law a law that exists without being enforced, it does no good. But but if we enforce the law, the authorities enforce the law. The what? The authorities enforce the law. And that's who we are. Behold, I give you all authority. [Music] It's good stuff, isn't it? We have to know who we are. So, how do we do it? Well, we definitely have to be in the word. We need to be praying in tongues and and really the next level, we need to start fasting and praying more than we do. So, we're sharper in our spirit to hear the spirit of God. Gosh, listen to me. Okay. All right. I'm just getting stirred up. I'm like, Lord, you won't let you won't leave me alone. Okay, let's talk about this the soul because now that you've talked about we're empowered, we uh we have the authority. There are some cases that are different, right? Yes. Totally. There are cases that where you said trauma puts people in situations where their soul is fragmented. I've heard soul being fragmented, but I actually never understood that. Let me just admit, never understood what that meant. and soul captured, soul hunters. I'm hearing all this language, but I don't know what it means. Could you help me with Yeah. And there's different levels of it. So, if um the best way to describe it is that uh can I take this? I just I brought some of my notes just because I want to give you um let me just read just the soul of man. And you know the Bible says that Jesus uh he heals the brokenhearted. Okay. So what is your heart? We are a spirit. We have a soul and we live in the body which is the center. It's the soul, isn't it? So he is the healer of your soul. He said in Psalm 23 that he would restore our soul. Well if if if uh why would he restore your soul if it didn't need to be restored? Okay. And it says that he came to heal the brokenhearted. I always say he came to heal the broken person. That's how I like to say it. But that word broken means the shattered person. Someone whose life has been shattered. And so in this the soul can be hunted. It can be branded. It can be torn in pieces. It can be snatched away. And it can be imprisoned. So I have a lot of scriptures here and I'm not going to share them all. One of the ones that I like is because there's different degrees of it. Some of it can come from if in Ezekiel where it talks about soul hunters and Jesus God says to the Ezekiel 13:e 18 and then verse 20 says where God uh comes against the women who which are witches who sow pillows and magic charms and armholes and he goes into that in order that you may hunt for the souls of my people or that you trap them like birds. And so it goes on to say that I will and let me I have that written down here. So let me read that. Take your time. Take your time to you so you can can see that because it's so Oh, and then I'm going to tell you I'll tell you stories about Disney where uh people's children have been captured and they're because they're snow soul snatchers. That's what they are. and how I've had to pray children free from some of these different things like like that. So, I should have probably wrote these down in in uh something else. Take your time. Take your time. You can always bring bring it back to where I need to. Okay. Yeah, you can just kind of jump around to it. Absolutely. But I wanted to read that with out of Ezekiel so I got it exactly right. And I also could have it. I may have. Okay, here it is. Ezekiel 13. Woe to the women who sew pillows to armholes and fasten magic and protective charms to wrists and deceptive veils upon the heads to hunt and capture human souls. Will you trap the souls of my people to keep yourself alive? So, they draw life from that, too. What people don't realize is that when they're playing with witchcraft, this because of you go like these concerts or you go in and burn sage or you go to these movies, you are giving over rights by your own permission, especially if you're a Christian cuz what part of of being a Christian don't we get that we shouldn't be dabbling in the old cult? What part of that don't we get? I don't get that. H what part of us don't discern this stuff is evil? Wow. You know, how can how can our spirit be dead? Maybe we need to go back well to the cross and really invite Jesus into our heart because how could our spirit man not know that there's something wrong, you know? So anyway, and then it says in verse 20, I am against your pillows, your charms, your veils, which which you have trapped human souls like birds. I will tear them from your arms and I will let the souls of my people that you hunt go free. And then uh also in um Psalm 7:2 it says, "Lest he rend my soul in pieces like a lion tearing my soul in pieces." And the word ren means lest he tear my soul or in peace. Yes, that word ren means piece by piece by piece. So, what that's really telling us is that a person can have more than one area of their life that is fragmented and broken. So, that can come out of uh now I got a lot more scriptures here, but Mhm. that can come out of of if you've dabbled in witchcraft. If you dabble in witchcraft, I guarantee you, you're going to probably have a portion of your soul trapped. Or if you've been through a trauma, and that can be like if a child is abused, molested, uh in an accident, even sometimes even some surgeries can fragment the soul. Okay? Because of the trauma of that. Oh my god. So, but we'll let let me go from this aspect. Let me go from trauma first and then I'll go into the witchcraft. when you're dealing with the witchcraft, those are another level, okay? But they're not always hard levels to get out of. So anyway, in that um when a person's like, say this is your soul and a trauma hits it, something traumatic, it can be visual, it can be a physical trauma, but something hits it and that is such a hard blow that it causes the soul to fragment. So here's my core, but I still have this broken part here. So because this part here has suffered injury and it's vulnerable, it's also going to end up demonized. So you're not dealing just with the fact that the soul is broken, but it's now being controlled by demons of uh of fear, uh molestation. Uh it could be witchcraft if I've dabbled in the witchcraft. So that puts another whole degree here. Okay. So, I'm not going to just have to deal with the fact that I got to get this soul out of where it's trapped, but I've also got to command the spirits to leave it cuz those spirits are like demonic guards and they don't want to let go. But say there's multiple traumas, multiple abuses. So, you could take that little child. They say if a if a child's been molested sexually, by the time I think it's five or seven, they're going to have multiple breaks in their soul. And and I'm gonna give you some stuff with psychologists and then they say so you can have more than one. Okay? Sometimes you can gather them together and get them out, but normally you're gonna have to deal with it goes back to the house cleaning out the rooms. Okay? So I had um I had a girl, this was I'll give you some examples. I had a lady one time who her mom uh had to leave the girls at home uh while she worked and they were I think one was eight and the other one was 12 or 13. And one morning a man broke into their house and he was going to rape the little girl, the 8-year-old. And the older sister said, "No, do me. Do me." And she took the rape versus her little sister. But her little sister watched that. So for years and years and years when I was teaching on that that little girl was locked up in that bedroom trapped from the trauma of watching that watching our sister and we took her out of that place of captivity and asked Jesus who is the healer. We don't do this. He only he can do it. When I get him out of there then I asked the Lord. I said Lord heal that broken person. Reintegrate them and grow them up. So he takes that broken piece and brings it back into place. That's restoring the soul. Huh? That's the restoring of the soul. Yes. Totally restores it. He is the healer of the shattered person, the broken person or where the soul has been torn and rent piece by piece by piece. Okay. So, we had um once I began to learn this, I think the first time that I did it was a woman who actually had cancer and I'd gone with a friend to pray for her and she was laying on this um on on a mattress on the floor and just a bag of bones. And so, we began to do deliverance and call the cancer out of her and everything else and the mostly the cancer out of the organ it was in. And then we gave her communion. We gave her communion. When we got done, she could only put it to her lips. She couldn't consume it. She was that weak. So, we left. This was a Thursday night. We went back on a Tuesday. When we came back on the Tuesday, her husband answered the door and we said, "Well, you know, how is she doing?" I'll say Mary because I don't use the names. I use Mary a lot, though. So, I said, "Well, you know, how's Mary doing?" And he said, "Well, I don't know. She's just different. That's all I can tell you. She's different." So, we go in. She's sitting up in a chair. And so we continued to pray against the cancer more. And that day we were able to give her com communion and she was able to eat the cracker and take the juice. So from that point on when she went back to the doctor, they could find no more cancer in her. But she couldn't get her strength back. So we're months later and this woman is still so weak. She can't hardly move. So uh she called one day and she wasn't my friend. I had gone with with a friend to her house, but she couldn't get anybody. So, she calls me and she says, "Bev, will you come back up and pray with me?" So, I couldn't find anybody to go pray. So, I had to go pray myself, but I'm like, "God, I've been I had been back up there and prayed." And nothing was moving. We called weakness out of her. We called everything we could think of out of this woman and she still wasn't getting her strength back. So, I'm sitting there and the Lord said, "She's broken. She's got another part of her." And I said, "Well, Lord, you know, I don't believe in that." Cuz I didn't believe in it when I first got started in this. No, when I first got Because this goes back to when I first got into ministry, deliverance. And I'd heard about multiple personalities. Like I had a girl say, "Well, Bev, I've got seven personalities." And I thought, "No, you don't, honey. You got seven demons." She had seven personalities. Because she'd been through ritual abuse, which I didn't, like I say, that really, really does happen. And it happens purposely by the devil so he can break our soul cause you know and some people like if it's severe one like um satanic ritual abuse SRAS it's a complete different personality we're we call them fragments they're not fragments they're personalities but anyway I went back to see this lady because God said to me go go up there and and pray for the broken part of her and I said well God you know I don't believe in that and he said to go so I head. So, I go there and I'm like, I don't know what to do. And the Lord said, uh, so I had read that sometimes they get names that people name them. So, I thought, well, I'm going to call this person out. So, I said, okay, I want to talk to, I said, Mary number two. Cuz I didn't know what her name was. So, Mary number two. Nothing happened. And the Lord said, ask her when it came into existence. I said, when did you come into existence? Cuz this other broken part. And all of a sudden, she says to me when my husband put my head through the wall, there it was. I commanded all of her anger, her hatred, her bitterness, her unforgiveness towards her husband to come out of her. It left. We asked God to reintegrate that broken part of her and she was able to go up and down the steps right in front of my eyes. Flight of stairs. All of her strength came immediately back into her body. Then also uh some of the other ones that let me just give you some stories as I got into this more and more and in study and psychiatrists I always say this psychiatrists and psychologists have acknowledged it for years the did disassociated disorder is what they call it. Okay we call them the fragments. Well actually before the church had never called them anything. I always say psychologists and psychiatrists diagnose it the church ignores it and Jesus heals it. Because psychologists and psychologists can't heal it either. They can medicate it. But Jesus didn't say to medicate demons, did he? I I just saw a side uh video that came on Instagram. A man interviewed about 10 psychiatrists and said, "Hey guys, when when was the last time you cured a client?" Yeah. Mhm. And they all laughed. They said, "We don't cure clients. We don't. They can't. They can't." And these are broken people that are going to them. And we have the answers. We have the answers. That's why I'm writing the book on on on coming out of soul captivity because you can take this is this is what's so amazing. I can step into the spirit realm and take any person out of captivity because I have that ability in the name of Jesus. I got the key to unlock any every prison that any person is in. Just like it said here when I read that about he traps the souls. I can unlock every place that that there's enttrapment. Why? because I've got the key and the key is the name of Jesus. The name of Jesus. That's our key. So, we've all got it. And it's not that weird that I step into the spirit realm because the spirit realm is real. It's as real as this realm. And if I prophesy, I'm sorry, but I stepped into the spirit realm to prophesy. Did I not? If I if Okay. When I speak in tongues, I step into the spirit realm to speak in tonesues. I don't do this in my flesh. See, we operate in the spirit realm a whole lot more than what we think. The veil's been rent. Oh my gosh. Right. And this is why we get in trapped because we go and we operate in these portals. We open these doors and we think that we're in the flesh, but spirit we're not. Exactly. That's good. That's good. We do exactly that. We think we can go in the flesh to this concert. No, no, no, no. You entered into the spirit realm, sweetheart. And that's where you're at. Even sexual encounters that all of it. Yes. And there is like literally where in in the demonic it knits your soul to that person. I just prayed for a lady last night who's been divorced for 15 years and still dreaming about an abusive ex-husband. She goes, "Bab, I hate it. How do I get away from him?" I said, "Honey, we just need to break your the spirit, soul, and body ties and take you out of a prison that he still is holding you in." We did and she got free last night. Oh my gosh. So my mind is blown right now in just this small conversation. We spend all of our lives implicating, engaging, getting ourselves captive in these in spiritual bondage. Yeah. Unaware or subconsciously and we think that when we're going for deliverance, this is our first time about to engage with the spirit. You've been engaging spiritually from the beginning. Totally. Yes. Yes. And and in that like I say another thing that uh a psychologist will say that when a child goes through a trauma they will stay that age. Yes. Yes. You know like say you were traumatized at age seven. I'll give you a story of a young woman that was traumatized at age seven. You get stuck there at that age and then you keep growing but there's a part of you that's still seven. That's why I say you might need to go to the seven-year-old room in your house. You got to visit those places so that if and and that's been proven medically that there's a portion of your life that will stay that age which again they can't help that but we can we can go in and get that little broken person out. So let me tell you this story. So, we had um a well I was doing some training for some people at a church and so I had my groups of people and they were ministering to a like I had four or five people ministering to one person different groups. I'll tell you two stories on that. So, I went around to this one and they were not getting her free. They had cast out everything they knew to do which was good. They needed to do that because that removes the demonic guards. But she had been molested. She was a when she was age seven in the basement by an old man. And so I said to the team, I said, "Well, did you break the ungodly soul ties with the old man so you could disconnect her from him?" They had done that. So they had cast out all the spiritual forces they knew to do that they thought they should have heard. And then then uh but they still weren't getting her free. So I knew where she was at. She was still in that basement. that little girl was still that little seven-year-old girl still locked up in that basement and had stayed there. So I said, "Close your eyes." And I said, "I want you to say by faith, I'm going to come out of that basement." So I said, "I just unlocked that prison where the enemy has held you captive since you were seven years old." Because that was a work of darkness. And I said, I took her by the hands. I said, "And I want you to start coming up out of the basement." And so she starts taking her legs and coming up out of the basement like she's walking out of the basement. And and I said to her, "Tell me when you're out." Finally, she says, "Bev, I'm out." Then I prayed. I said, "Okay, God, take that little girl, establish her in heavenly places in Christ Jesus, and let all of heaven minister healing to her, and Lord, reintegrate her and grow her up." That little seven-year-old girl grew up. She was no longer there. He heals and restores the broken person. Had a young man, too, that one time I walked him, he was abandoned by his dad. And as we walked through that, he said he saw himself go from a little child and grow as we were walking out. God was just growing up, that little boy that had suffered all that pain of of abandonment and fatherlessness. But then I went around to another corner of the same same group that same day and there was another young woman they were working with and so again the same thing they just didn't feel like they were getting to she wasn't feeling free. Okay. And and not that there isn't a process with that but we we were doing the process. They had done some deliverance. And I always believe in because there's you know just like in any prison we have guards. There's demonic guards that'll guard that portion of your soul so you can't come out. That's why I I usually always do deliverance before I deal with the broken soul because I get rid of every guard. Oh, every That's a key. Okay. You say you deal with those spirits before you even start take them out of captivity. Uh-huh. Because I remove the guards, the demonic guards. Yep. So, you're going to move over. You're going to get out of the way. I cast you out. But I send and I send him to the abyss, too. And let me tell I'll tell you why I send him to the abyss in the name of Jesus. But I'll tell you that in a minute. So this woman uh had uh so I went over to pray with her and she'd had an abortion when uh well she had had an abortion or maybe abortions. I can't remember exactly. I do so many I don't remember all their stories. So she had had she had been gotten pregnant numerous times, her and her husband, but every baby she'd lose. every baby and so she felt God was angry at her. She thought God was judging her and that's why she couldn't have a baby because she kept misaring and miscarried which that is very uh also another medical uh thing when you have had an abortion you can usually usually not always but women will have u miscarriages they will their chance of breast cancer increases up to 150 times. That's medically known by the way and plus they can get other cancers. Why is that? because death has entered into the spirit of death to your female organs. God does not hate a woman who's had an abortion. He's not mad at her. He wants to redeem her. He wants to restore her. So, and I'll tell you how I deal with women who have had abortions because that's another heart-wrenching thing. So, this woman had had an abortion or abortions and so she wasn't free. She just couldn't seem to get broke through that. She was she was just feeling God is so mad at me. He's just making me lose my babies cuz he's judging me cuz I did this horrible thing. And I said, "No." I said, "You're still on that abortion table. We're going to get up and get off that abortion table cuz you know abortion is witchcraft. It's it's the offering of blood sacrifice." And there are, in fact, this is horrible, but I'm going to say it. Planned Parenthood sells baby parts. They sell blood. They do all that. People go to uh these places uh Satanists and many of the people even in our entertainment because our entertainment thing is it big time into Satanism. Yeah. And they drink the blood of these aborted babies. That's what they do. It's a sacrifice. When we say it's a sacrifice to Moolik and Baal, and it is, but they're also taking literally doing that. Some of them eat baby parts. I could go on about that, too, but I'm not going to get into some of that stuff. But so this woman had had an abortion and so we took her I said, "I'm going to take you off that abortion table because all those are those those places are are demonic places where where they literally trap the souls of women that go in there." So I said, "Close your eyes." She was sitting in the chair. I said, "Close your eyes." I took her by the hands and I said, "I want you to say by faith I'm going to get up and I'm coming out of that abortion clinic." And so I unlocked her prison. I unlocked that door, that abortion clinic in the name of Jesus. Took her by the hands and we started walking out of the abortion clinic cuz that's where she was locked up. And so a lot of times they'll see what's going on. Sometimes not. I got to tell you a couple of those cuz they're so powerful. So there there this is why you just want to keep going because what God does. So anyway, we walk out and I said, "Honey," I said, "Tell me when you feel you're out of there." So we walk a little bit more and she says, "Bev, I'm out." So I said, "Okay." So I prayed, "Lord, establish her in heavenly places in Christ Jesus and let all of heaven minister healing to her and Lord Jesus reintegrate because he's the healer of that per reintegrate that broken young woman in Jesus name and grow her up." Wow. Literally, she said, "Bab, when I was coming out, I could hear the sounds of the sucking machine and I could smell the smells of that abortion clinic." She reexperienced, we took that young woman out of there. Isn't that something with I saw her three months later and she was pregnant. That awesome. So, it's just amazing. I had a had a young woman go uh and this is again kind of going into um soul hunters and and I also believe that if uh you got witchcraft in your bloodline I said this to you earlier more than likely your soul has already been snatched a portion of your soul in the womb because that person's been dedicated if there's witchcraft more than likely they especially when you're getting into these well any kind voodoo all of those they own a they own the bloodline line because your bloodline has made covenants. If we understand covenant if I covenant with God, God has held to me and my generations to a thousand generations. God don't break covenant. He don't break covenant. So in the demonic realm, if your ancestors have made covenants, they're like, "Uh-uh. Uh-uh. We're not breaking." It's because it's all counterfeit. And so it's known that in certain cultures, they will go up to seven generations, some of them up to 14. hunting your people if you break a covenant. That's how Livingston made covenants when he was in Africa and he'd go into these tribes with all these big uh African chiefs and he'd make covenant with them and that was his protection. He did one time a he had a goat and the chief wanted his his goat and he needed that goat for the milk but he otherwise the other all the other tribes would kill him so that chief gave him his big staff or sword that's what protected him. It's always the greater comes to the lesser. Our greater has come to us, the lesser, and made covenant with us by the blood of Jesus. Thank you, Lord. So, we're in covenant. But anyway, um so when we dabble in witchcraft, and this is serious, parents are selling out their children today and don't even realize it. So, when you take your child and and like even to these Disney movies, Disney is nothing but witchcraft. Um, let me jump here too. I went to Bermuda, okay? And I was going there to do some training. And while I was there, the pastor that was there, she told me, she said, "Bev, one of the biggest things that we deal with over here is we have a lot of churches doing deliverance, but they're doing witchcraft at the same time and they're mixing it and they're it's a it's a mess. They're not getting people free. They're you add demons to people." But she was good. This pastor I was at. So, she was telling me a story of a of a young woman. They had worked to walk through deliverance. She was a 14-year-old, I think, and she was being taken out of her bed at night and being raped. She was being taken out of her bed at night, taken under the water and being raped by water spirits. She'd go underneath the water and be raped repeatedly, but and then she'd come back. And so when they were doing deliverance on her, so that's snatching her soul, too. By the way, it's it's uh spirit guide taking you or you can it's not really astral projection. spirit guide literally taking you out. So she said when she was under the water, she said there were some of the characters and she said which the w the ones I don't know which ones they were I don't remember from Avatar were under the water with her. So who made Avatar the movie Avatar which she saw some of those characters under the water. So, if Disney makes Avatar and they know these characters like water spirits, how does Disney know how to do this unless they're witches, warlocks, wizards, divinators? It's not the first time I've heard that. No, I've heard that people that have seen in that realm say that the depictions that they've seen are not original. That these things are like visions that are put down. Yeah. they see them and that's in most of the Disney movies and also um like like with that too I looked up when Avatar came out I looked it up what is and what you always want to do I always tell people this don't look up the history of it look up especially with u a lot of this new age medicine that's out all the alternative medicines you better look up the origin not the history because most of that comes out of spiritism so I looked up Avatar the origin of Avatar and what it is is It's a demonic spirit that wants to cohabit and recreate of itself. It's like Nephilim, recreate a demonic personality. Oh no. So we we do those kind of things and you know so we open doors as parents. So by letting our children go to these movies u young a couple from our church took their granddaughter not the church I'm in but when I was in and she's probably about 14 also I think to Frozen number two. When they got to the movie theater, they were there just a little while and the kid had a panic attack. They had to leave. I mean, the panic anxiety attack she's had was so bad they had to take her out of the movie theater. So, grandpa and grandma took her home, tried to cast those spirits out of her. Didn't get anywhere. So, they said, "Bev, can we bring her over?" So, I said, "Okay, bring her over to my house." And so, when they had already done the deliverance and they weren't getting anywhere, I knew where she was. What was that? She did what I just said about the witches, the soul hunters. Her soul was snatched. I said, "Okay, we're going to go in and take you out of the place that that frozen number two snatched your soul." How many places are souls snatched? We There's a whole spirit realm out here. And so we literally I unlocked that door and I said, "You're we're taking her soul back." Oh my god. You're going to let it go in the name of Jesus. So we went in, took her soul back, walked her out of that movie theater, asked Holy Spirit to reintegrate her and grow her up and she was completely healed. All the anxiety attacks stopped, the panic attack stopped. What? But it just came out of that one movie going to that movie. This is more than I thought I would hear today. Let me ask you this then. What percentage of people that are have gone through highly traumatic things, gone through devastating things? What percentage of those people do you think are dealing with real time demonic spirits or oh demonic spirits? Both. I would say they're broken and they're dealing with demonic spirits. And I'd say probably 100%. 100%. At least with what I'm praying for 100%. You come in, you tell me your story, then I'm going to know. I can listen to you and I'm going to know what demons I need to go and pull out. I'm going to need to know I'm going to know where you're probably broken and fragmented so we can go in, you know. And I'm not when I say that I know the demons, I'm just saying I can know like if you're bitter, if you're angry, if uh there's witchcraft, if there's like if you were not wanted as a child, I know I'm going to deal with a demon of rejection. If you were abandoned, all of those kind of things that that you can How would someone know that? Okay, because we live in a very secular, I would say, carnal world. And so someone could say, "No, I'm just sad about it." Or, "No, yeah, that happened to me and yeah, it bothers me sometimes, but there's no spirit entity that's bothering me about this." Why do we have to conflate the two? Why does it Why do we have to overspiritualize something that happened to me? Yeah, it's a little trauma. Yeah, but I'm over it. Yeah, I went through that. Yeah, but I'm done with that. Why Why does a demon have to now be involved? Well, because Well, what happens though? And people are unaware of it because demons will gladly go down and sit and be quiet. They'll they'll wait for an opportune time just like when the devil left Jesus and it says he left for more Chyros time. So you just stand back and watch Jesus quietly until he could have a more chairo strategic time. So they'll wait for you. They'll wait for you. They'll wait for you. And every time I've I've heard children or anybody, even you when you told your story about the haunt this haunted house, every time they talk about 10 times I heard someone talk about seeing a demon somehow, the demon is always standing and waiting. Yeah. And I've come to find out that the enemy is strategic. He plays the long game. And he does often times the enemy what you just said sitting quietly that is so dangerous because then you have people that are coming out saying I don't there's like I'm not manifesting like I I'm I'm living. I'm successful. I put my makeup on right. I'm not cutting myself like the man with legions. So for you to say that I'm somehow oppressed by demons just because something happened to me, that is extreme. I'm a pastor. I'm a prophet. I'm a teacher. I help people in this area. In fact, I'm casting out demons. You know what I always tell people, too? You shouldn't be casting out demons if you didn't get delivered yourself. You got doors. So you should really be walking through some deliverance yourself first before you go do deliverance because you got your doors open. So you that's why I teach. But because you know like when I got delivered uh because I especially got delivered of rejection which I had other strong men that kind of went along with that bitterness and fear. There's other things that go but my main was was rejection. And I didn't think I didn't even know I had a spirit of rejection. I thought it was my personality. I thought it was who I was because they want your identity. Demons want your identity because that's how they express themselves. So even though you have people who think they're perfect and they don't have all these Watch them, they got their issues. They got their issues. But I thought I just thought I was different. I thought I just don't fit in with people. I felt like okay when I had to get up in front of people to speak I was always like so intimidated so afraid yes and here I have a calling on my life so you can see why the enemy wanted to dump all this so I couldn't fulfill see if the if the devil can get your identity he gets your destiny I died you can't do this oh my gosh I got it now the revelation just hit me I'm on fire Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm I'm losing it. I'm losing it. You just said I'm sorry. I got to walk this back with you. You said that this is the way this is their strategy for them to express themselves by owning your identity. Yes. So, how did he express himself through me? I was timid. I was shy. I was uh I had no confidence in myself. Every time I would get up and minister, I'd feel like a failure. I would stay away from people because I didn't feel people liked me. And then I got delivered. And when I got delivered, I didn't care if you liked me. I didn't care if I fit in. I was going to do what Jesus called me to do. And then I didn't get intimidated from people. What hopefully you like what I got to say, but if you don't, that's your problem, not mine. So I it was like I could be bold in who God called me to be my destiny. But see, he went after my identity because he wanted my destiny. Because the devil's afraid of our destiny. We are all destined for great things on this earth, powerful things. We are the only force. We're the only ones that can help people. The only ones. So he got he got to go for the identity because he's trying to limit and shut down the purpose and destiny that God has for us. If he could hijack the identity, he has hijacked the purpose. Yeah. And some people have been through horrible rejection. I went through a lot of rejection as a child. So people go through some I mean sometimes I can meet people and I can see that on them. You know, ma'am, this to me like this is beyond a master class. I almost want to sit. I mean, I hope people that are watching are taking notes because my life will never be the same from just the little that you're sharing. Now, I got a couple more questions. Okay. A couple more questions. I guess it's in relation to um and you're making me forget my question because I just my mind is being my mind is being blown. There's a lot going on in regards to there's a lot of false prophets and they're doing a lot in this realm of deliverance which I think is doing a lot more harm than good. We've already talked about the manifestations. We've already talked about people trying to talk to demons and all of that stuff. I guess like the question is you said for people that want to get into the ministry, they need deliverance themselves. I would first of all if if before we did the ministry uh okay so I said this guy called us like about a couple weeks after but this is what my husband and I did. We took our manual well this wasn't that one and we started calling out he had a listing which I have listings. We just called everything we could see in here out of it. You know, we didn't know if we had it or not, some of it. So, we just called it out anyway and it left. So, here you had two people who knew nothing, but we thought, okay, so we watched what he did with our son and then we did go back one time and had he prayed with us. So, we thought, okay, we're just going to make sure we clean everything out. So, we took turns. And I'll tell you what, it was funny cuz then it's like you got to swallow your pride. Yeah. and admit you I might have some demons, you know. Well, but we did it. Just mentioned right there. I think that's one of the things that keeps us from deliverance. Like I don't want to be caught with a demon because then people are going to think I'm dirty or I'm filthy or had a history or something. And you know, I tell people this too. Just because you got a demon don't mean you're bad. means you've been taken advantage of somewhere somehow through maybe not even knowing because the devil loves it when you don't know. My people perish for lack of knowledge. Okay? So even when we dabble in people unknowingly have taken their children to movies or whatever they don't know. So they've unknowingly done that. Okay? Doesn't mean you're evil and bad. But it does mean if your house gets dirty in the natural, are you going to clean your house? Come on. Why not this house? Why not this house? Why not be vessels of honor? You know, Derek Prince, um he's he's long gone, but he's a Yeah. He said that when Jesus comes, he is coming for a church without spot and wrinkle. He said the demons are the spots and the wrinkles. Isn't that good? Those are the spots and the wrinkles. So, he said deliverance is going to have to come back into the church. And it is. It is. But we need good people doing deliverance. We need people who have a heart for the people. Not people up there platforming. Not people up there just trying to make a big show and get their money. Come on. Like you're gonna have to give me this for that demon ain't going to leave or you're going to have to give me this so much of this if you want to be healed. Really? No. You have But God's God's shifting some things. And he's cleaning house. He's cleaning house. So we better have our hearts right. Better have our hearts right. Oh, okay. But it's about the person. It's about I always tell people it's not about the demon. It's about the person. That's that's the summary. It's not about the demon. It's about the person. Yes. And somehow they've been taken advantage of even in even if it's coming up through the bloodline. Were they planning on that? No. But are they recipients of it? Yes. Maybe doors were open because of the bloodline thing. Maybe they opened them up. We do lots of dumb things in life. We do. Yes. You know, so does that mean we're bad and evil? No. It just means you need some help. And he came to help us. He came to set the captive free, did he not? Cuz he knew we needed help. He didn't come because he thought we were horrible, evil people. Oh my god. He came because he loved us. You got to adopt me. I could do that. Oh my god. I love Oh my gosh. to me this this conversation alone is a level of deliverance for me. Yeah. And like I mean even speaking like even transparently into the areas of rejection that I had to find in in my own life and I didn't realize that those are ways that the enemy wanted to show up and I use my own means to kind of say this is who I am. This is who I am. God had to really convict me about a lot of the things I thought I was, but it was really the enemy trying to suppress what he was calling me to be. He's like, totally, totally. He wants your destiny. My book, I'm going to give you these books anyway. Yes. Rejection, identity, thief exposed. Read that. And there's a prayer in the womb for that one, too. But, uh, we had a guy here. This this was an interesting. He always felt like he should have been born a girl. And he wasn't homosexual. He wasn't transgender. He uh was married, had four sons. And but he always felt like he was wrong. I should have been born a girl. And he would say that to us and we would pray with him. We'd come against all these different things. And he came one day, his 68-year-old man. Wow. And his issues were the fact of issues with between him and his wife was he lusted after women. So, you know, but he so we were praying and he said, "Bab, I still feel like I should be a girl." And I don't like that. I always felt like I should have been born a girl. I said, "Okay, close your eyes." And I want you to just ask the Lord, should I have been born a girl? So he did. And I said to him, what did he say to you? He said, just one thing. I don't make mistakes. And it set him free. God don't make mistakes. You know, and that's in here. But uh we pray the find that book. Uh you can go on Amazon or you can go to bevucker ministries.com. My manual of course. Okay. Which has got all where all the prayers to break legal rights. Oh wait, lift that one up. Okay. Okay. This has got this is loaded in the front and in the back to prayers that you can break legal rights. Even if you've been to witchcraft psychic, it's got some captivity prayers, but I'm going to be doing like a whole book on that because I want people free of that. Um, I'm just doing some more study because God is really revealing to me a whole lot with the uh being captive from the womb. Literally, people that have had uh any of that in there, the iniquity of witchcraft in the bloodline, any old cult, their souls are literally captive even from the womb. Oh my god. A portion of them. He wants a portion. And it it talks about that in in the Old Testament where he says I want to the enemy says I will take a portion of of Judea. He wants and that was always represented the soul. Israel represented the spirit. So that's that's another whole teaching I've got on that. But he wants a portion of our soul because then he can function through our soul to keep us from being all that God wants us to be or just plain dysfunctional. My God. You know, when I uh I've always this this is one thing with me because I went through some traumas growing up and my father was an alcoholic and we went through a lot of different things. And when I would be with people, I would always feel like I was the youngest person. They could be younger than me, way younger, and I always would walk away feeling like I'm the youngest person there. But I thought, God, that is so weird. Why do I always feel like I'm the youngest person? So, one day I'm teaching this on the soul captivity and God growing you up. And I come home and I'm just sitting in my chair kind of relaxing. And I said to the Lord, I said, ' God, do you think I could be broken? And I said, "Well, Lord, if I am, just take me and grow me up." And you know, I've never felt that way since. Isn't that crazy? But I apparently had some portion of my life that was stuck like a little girl. And I can think back now and I can think of probably what it was, but I can never figure out why do I always feel like I'm the youngest. And I simply said, you know, this isn't hard. It isn't hard. Jesus, if I was a broken little girl, if I got it broken, reintegrate me. Come on. Come on. Boom. And it was done. I love that. So, you know, just in the same way too that my husband and I started out, we didn't know much when we did, but we just took the manual and started at least so we could get some guidance. Yes. So, between the guidance of that guy's manual and the Holy Spirit, we started setting people free and then we just began to learn as we went. So, you can always start. You can always I'm going to buy that book. I'm going to give it to you. So, I have one for you. Oh, well, I'm definitely going to sew for it cuz I I wanted to walk away with that. Thank you. Cuz I was going to just snatch it from you. I'm liking it. No, I brought one for you. I brought Thank you so much. Okay. So, what else we got? Your children's deliverance. Okay. So, that's on how to help your children get free. And I've got a Oh, for for as parents, right? Yeah. Yeah. For your Yeah. And absolutely. But you know, I have children who uh this one little girl, her mom brought her her and her brother to my all my classes and she was in Sunday school class one day or yeah, children's church and so they asked her if she would wanted to pray for the offering. So she gets up and starts praying for the offering and before you know it, she's casting demons out of all the kids because she'd sat in my class and she would sit and watch us week after week do corporate deliverance. So she's taking authority and she goes and I just command all this stuff to leave you guys. All that hurt, all that rejection, and she's about a six, seven year old girl, but she's just Does that authority work in her? Same Jesus. Oh, I need my kids to be run around like that. See, I want them to be serious what they do. Okay, I love that. I love that. So good. And then breaking uh the bonds, breaking free of bitterness and unforgiveness. So that's something that can really hinder. So, what we're going to do because I want you to also talk about what you're doing in person as well. So, the link for these books are going to be in the description. This is what I recommend. Get all of them. And in fact, get two of each so that you could give them to someone you love. This is it's just that important. If you buy if you buy a shirt and buy another one for someone else, this is for the soul. I spirit, soul, and body. You will have physical healing. Spiritual healing. Come on. Healing of the soul. Jesus. Thank you. Thank you for that. I want to know because you told me that you did your first conference. When was that? Okay. We did our first conference February 28th this year. Mhm. Okay. And March 1. And the reason I did it is again just because of the cry of the people. We're going to do another one probably in October. We're looking around the 23rd. I'm going to do an extra day cuz I didn't get enough in. And I want to really really I'm going to teach on a couple of things for the people. I want we're going to have speakers uh that come in again like I did this time, but I'm going to teach more on the captivity, okay? Cuz we're going to walk out of captivity. I have done corporate coming out of captivity. Nothing's too big for the Holy Ghost because it ain't about us anyway. So, we can I I tell people I just unlock all these prisons. I unlock them in the name of Jesus. And the angels are in there. People have seen tons of angels. These angels assist them coming out of their place of captivity. But we didn't get as much time as I wanted to. So that was probably one thing. We we had probably too much going on. But so I'm going to get better out of that next time. Yes. But oh God moved. And then um and yeah. So it's going to be I think the second to the last week in October. Have any idea where in the United States? Uh no I don't. We're I think we're going to do it at the church again, but I'm not 100%. Okay. Uh how we're going to do it because I don't know. I'm building on this. So, we had a group of about 450 500. So, that was a group we could handle. So, because we really want to be able to minister to the people. Had a child that was autistic that spoke and then got filled with the Holy Ghost, spoke in tongues. Had a deaf ear open. had a woman that was she had the craziest disease, but she was atrophied in a wheelchair. And I've seen lots of people get out of wheelchairs. This one, uh, we come against spirit of atrophy. Uh, she was able to sit up by herself afterwards and then was able to stand up. So, I'm going to do a one-on-one. She don't live that far from here, but she came. So, we're going to work with her. But, we had all sorts of wonderful things happen. People got free. Ma'am, I am just blown away. All the information, your information is going to be in the description. I already know. I just pray for triple more administration. People already kicking down your door. I don't know how you're handling all the many souls, but you know what? This is why you're doing having conversations like this everywhere you go because sons and daughters are being raised up. You're you're not the only one. And that is not a disc. The reason why you're being called into this is to empower us to be able to know so that we can go and do the same. Right? And this is another thing that I'm doing because this last conference was a training deliverance conference. But most of the people came were wanting deliverance. So I may do one cuz I'm going to try to do two deliverance conferences a year. But I may do one where I'm just going to take in like maybe a 100 200 people who are wanting to do deliverance because it's it's key. We know what we do know what to do. And it's key that we uh minister uh to the person, not the demon. It's also key, you know, I was out in California and I had a lady say to me after we did deliverance, corporate deliverance. She said, "Bev, this is the first time I've ever been through deliverance and not felt violated." Oh my goodness. Why should a person feel violated? See, we pray, we do some teaching, break legal rights, and those demons non-negotiable. They have to go. I'm going to teach on how to with manifestation. How you can engage the person more than the manifestation. I love you. This is what I'm talking about. Thank you, Jesus, for bringing the right people here. Okay, we're going to pray. Okay. Um, I would love for you to pray by leading of the Holy Spirit if you can. Um, there are people that are listening that are bound. There are people that are listening that are curious. There are people that are listening that are anti what you're saying. Um, but we know that God is in this room in this conversation, but by leading up the Holy Spirit, if you could just pray for those that are listening. Okay. Well, Father, Father, I pray that every ear be open to hear. I pray, God, that every eye be open to see the truth, God. Jesus, you said these signs will follow them that believe. My church, they will cast out demons. Lord, that's the very first thing you told us to do. So God, this is a mandate from the kingdom of God that we cast out demons. Father, I pray that you will raise up deliverance ministers that are not about themsel. I pray that you would raise up pure, holy, and honest deliverance ministers, God, that love your people. I pray, God, for freedom to come to your people. I pray for deliverance, God, and breakthrough to come to your people. I pray for those that are broken. Jesus, you are the healer of the broken, shattered person. Those that have been torn, those that have been bruised and crushed and broken down by calamity, God. Father, I pray for them, God. I pray for healing. I pray for the restoration of their soul, God, you restore. And I ask, God, even Father, for those that are listening, God, that those that are broken, Father, today even we unlock prisons, God, we unlock prisons of captivity in the name of Jesus. Then Lord, I ask that your angels go and literally begin to assist people in coming out of those dark places, out of the pits, out of the dungeons, out of the caves, out of the prisons. Lord, in the name of the Lord, I send out a clarion call and I say, "Come forth. Come forth. Come forth out of the prisons." Father, we declare the enemy will no longer hold your people captive. Father, we break off the authority, God. We repent, Father, for doors that have been open. We repent and renounce them, Father. And God, I pray and declare that covenants of darkness will be broken. I declare covenants of the oult and Satanism and witchcraft. I prophesy to you and I say you will fall. I say altar, altar, fall to the ground, be ashes, be poured out as ashes. We declare your demise. And we declare a loosing of God's people, that every chain, shackle, everything be broken. God, I declare that the mountains are leveled, brass doors broken down, bars of iron cutest, God, in the name of Jesus, and the crooked places to be made straight. And father, I declare the treasures, the hidden riches of secret places be given to your people, God. And those are our places of freedom. Those are our places of healing. Those are our pl places of restoration. I declare, Father God, as people are listening, I declare your children are coming into the kingdom. God, you said you would deliver the seed of the righteous. Another non-negotiable. So, we prophesy to the seed of the righteous and we say, you're coming out of the darkness. You are coming back to the kingdom of God in the name of the Lord Jesus. Father, you said believe in our house would be saved. Yes. So, Father, I just declare over your people, God, they have faith. And we declare our children are coming home. Our families are coming back. Yes. Healings are being broke through, Father. Father, we speak to infirmity. We speak to sickness. We speak to disease. We speak to terminally ill. And I say, live. Yes. Live. Live. be healed now in the name of Jesus. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I declare and right now say, every spirit of infirmity, we cast you out. We send you to the abyss. We send terminal disease to the abyss. We seal you there and we say you will not return. We say loose God's people, tumors, dry up and die. Dry up and die in the name of Jesus. In the name of the Lord Jesus. And I also declare those who are bound financially, you're going to be loosed. Yes. You be loosed. I break off generational poverty, generational lack in the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus. I declare God that so much is coming into the kingdom. Yes, God. That God, all the work that you desire to be done will be done. Thank you, Jesus. That it won't be just loded up on ourselves. Yes, Lord. But we will meet the needs of the people. God, you'll meet them through us. And I declare prosperity over your people. I declare blessing over your people. I declare recompense over your people. I declare God restoration. God, you are going to restore. And we are seeing restored. That what the cankerworm, the crawling, crawling locust, hopping locust, and stripping locust has taken. God, you will restore years to your people. Thank you. years to your people, Jesus. And we declare that to be done, God. We honor you. We give you glory. We give you praise and thanksgiving, Jesus, that you get all the glory, Lord, for you, oh God, are good. You are good. You are good. You are good. And we worship you. Yes, God. We worship you. Hallelujah. And God, we say thank you. And I say that not one word that I spoke today or that brother Ezekiel spoke today will fall to the ground but it will bring forth God what you sent it forth to do in the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen. Do you know I prayed for I was in my about a month ago maybe not that long ago and I simply got up and said father I pray that every ear be open to hear every eye to see. And there was a young mother, a non-wed mother who had brought her baby. It was 2 weeks old. It was deaf. And they literally had run tests on this baby. It was deaf. And when I said, "Father, I pray that every ear be open to hear." She took the baby in the next day and his ears were open. He could hear. I mean, that was so like, oh my goodness, I didn't know that. But I got up and I felt like I should pray over the crowd. God, let their ears be open to hear what I'm going to say. But I just said, "Let the ears be open to hear." And that baby's there was a young another young mother sitting there. And when I prayed that, she this is what she said. She said, "Be when you prayed, let the ears be open to hear." She said, "I grabbed that for this baby." She took it by faith. That baby's ears were open by faith. Isn't that awesome? Ears be open to hear. Anyway, good stuff. Miracles. Deliverance is a miracle working ministry. It really is. It's a ministry of restoration, a ministry of healing. It's wonderful. I'm I'm going home a different man. Built up by faith. I don't know. Do you have these books in your office? Uh I do. You have all the books in your office? Okay. I'm going to sew a seed. I'm snatching them from you. Mine said don't take them for you. Okay. I can't steal from El. Okay. I'm going to sew into your ministry. However, I need to do that. I need all of those books. I need the one of all of them. I need all good enough. And the new one's coming out. I'll be praying for that one. That's on captivity. Captivity. Coming out of captivity. Taking the soul back. We're going to take our souls back. No matter how the enemy's gotten hold of them. Oh my gosh. It's our right as children of God. Say, Pastor Bev, thank you. Thank you for taking time on a day like this, sacrificing to be here. This Thank you. Thank you. What an honor to come and speak with you. I am so blessed. Thank you. Thank you so much. Now, you might be asking, what is the gospel? The gospel is very simple. that you are a sinner and that you are on your way to hell without a shadow of a doubt. You were born in sin and the wrath of God abides on you and you do not deserve to go there by way of your sin. But while you were still a sinner, God sent his son Jesus who loved you and died for you as your substitutionary sacrifice. which means he died in your place so that you could live his life. Which means he died for your sin. He was buried and 3 days later he resurrected from the dead. And if you would confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. That's out that's out here. No, no. I'm talking about the real Jesus of the Bible, the eternal son of God that became a man. God manifested in the flesh that became a man and in 33 years he died on the cross providing redemption buying us back translating us out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of his dear son which means he redeemed us back to God he reconciled you back to God by way of his death on the cross and so you're probably saying how can I be saved very simple all you have to do is repent of your sin. I'm not talking about 360, talking about 180. You turn, you turn from your sin. You believe in the gospel exclusively. Just Jesus. I'm not talking about Jesus and Mary. I'm not talking about Jesus and Buddha. I'm not talking about Jesus and some other centralized figure. And I'm not even talking about Jesus and your spiritual father and destiny and all of that. No, no, no. There's only one way to heaven. Jesus said, "I am the way. I am the truth. I am the life. and nobody comes unto the father except through me. Jesus is exclusively the only way. You want to know why he's the only way? Because he's not only the only way, he is the door to enter in. And the only way you could get in is by way of repentance. You must repent and become born again. Why? Cuz only sons and daughters can become citizens in the kingdom. Outsiders can't come in. But Jesus died on that cross and he made the way open for you. And if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. I'm not talking about all this other stuff to get saved. No, no, no. Just believe. Believe in him. The efficacy of Christ's work on the cross as the substitutionary sacrifice in exchange for your sin. Which means you give up your sin. You give it to him. He exchanges it and takes on your sin, but he gives you his righteousness. And then you are righteous and justified by faith in Jesus. And when you have justification because of Jesus, now you have peace with God. You have peace with God. And watch this. And now he will no longer be just your God. He is now your heavenly father through the person of his son Jesus. Why don't you pray that prayer right now? Just repeat after me. Say, "Lord, I believe that I am a sinner and that I deserve to go to hell, but God, you sent your son. Go ahead, those of you that are watching, repeat what I'm saying. Say, "God, you sent your son, Jesus Christ, to die for my sin. He was buried. 3 days later, he resurrected from the dead. I now confess you, Lord Jesus, as my Lord, as my Savior. Come into my heart, come into my life, and wash me from my sin." And now say this. Say, "Holy Spirit, I surrender my life to you. Make me born again in Jesus mighty name." My friend, if you said that prayer, whichever way you said that prayer, as long as you believe, confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and that he died on the cross for you and 3 days later he resurrected and you repented and believed that message, the Bible says, "Whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved." You are saved, my friend. Here's what I want you to do. There's going to be an email that's going to be put on the video right here. And I want you to write I want you to write this channel and tell them that you accepted Christ as your savior. And brother Ezekiel and this the administrative staff of this channel will help you find a local church in your area. They will point you in the right direction. But we need to hear from you. to say, "Man of God, and that broadcast, I know you guys were talking about demons and devils, but I ended up getting saved and I ended up renouncing all other gods." Yeah. Which means you got to renounce all other gods and believe exclusively on the son of God. And welcome to the family of God.