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Uncovering Controversial Vatican Practices

Hey, good evening everybody. As promised, as soon as we had the announcement of the new pope, we would get Kevin Annette on as soon as possible. And he is busy as hell right now. But he has made time for us folks to come on this evening and give his discourse on how satanic is this new pope, the Vatican, the church, the crimes. So, please support Kevin's important work. All of his links are in the description box below this video. Many of you have said that you are enjoying his book. Uh link is also down there in the description box. And if you've got any questions, please put them in the chat, but let's not make them too esoteric like last time. Let's keep the questions within the realm of what we're talking about this evening. So, huge thank you for coming back so soon, Kevin. Thanks for having me. No, it's really good we talk about this today. Yeah. Yeah. And I've been watching on the news the black smoke emissions. What What does all that stuff mean? Uh it's pretty like you say esoteric. It goes back hundreds of years. Um so I don't know. I I frankly I don't know, but I've heard different references to what it means. But just that's how they announced that's how they announced the new pope. Is it that they've made a decision is through the smoke? Well, you know, officially that's what they do. It's part of the show to make it seem like there's been a choice and uh a democratic process, right? All right. So, now that we know who he is, Robert, Pope Leo I 14th, what is his background? Uh, we'll start with that one. I'll get a picture up of him. There he is. Well, you know, the the the press is making a big thing about this. It's the first American pope ever elected. The reality is he's referred to in the college of cardinals as the second Latin American pope. And that's because even though yeah, he was born in Chicago, raised in the Midwest of the US, he became a priest and very quickly got involved in this thing called the Augustinian Order, which are a bunch of missionaries. And he went as a missionary to Peru. And that's where he did all his work right up to the point of being appointed cardinal. Just two years ago, less than two years ago, Pope Francis Jorge Begolio, the other Latin American, appoints him as a cardinal. And some people are speculating that this is because he was kind of Burggalio's handpicked successor. And the more you dig into this guy, the more interesting it gets. When you talk about are this pope satanic? Well, by definition, all of them are because they're part of a satanic institution. As we mentioned before, they don't they're not allowed to become a cardinal or a pope unless they're involved in these arcane ninth circle rituals and these other satanic practices which we've documented thoroughly. But um this guy in particular is interesting because um as a missionary and a a bishop in Peru, he was very closely tied to somebody else I'm going to talk about. It's his name's William O. He's a child trafficking priest based out of Michigan. As a matter of fact, these these guys were educated and worked just down the road from each other. Uh the present uh Leo u or we can call him Big Bob if you like, whatever you want. But Robert Pvost, the uh the guy who was just put in, uh did his education in Holland, Michigan, which is just down the road from Lancing, Michigan, where this William Oth, who's on the screen, um did all of his work. Now, this guy you're looking at, William O, he's posing with a Mayan child. And in the description, uh this is part of a Facebook thing he sent out a number of years ago. He said, "Here is this boy is not my latest lover, but he's a good kid." So, he's referring openly to all the little child lovers he has in uh in, you know, in the Mayan communities in Guatemala, Mexico. Now, um the present guy who's in PBOST was very tied in to child trafficking efforts all up and down uh the Pacific coast in in Central America like with this guy and in Latin America, South America. And the other interesting thing that ti ties this guy in is that he's very close to what's called the um RBI, which in America and baseball is called runs batted in. But RBI actually means uh the road and belt initiative. He was the bishop of um a place called uh Chicleo which is in northern Peru. It's just down the road from the major port ofQ which is where all of the Chinese it's kind of like the equivalent of what's happening on the west coast of British Columbia. China is going into South America in a huge way to grab all of their mining and resources. And the port through which they're operating, the port of Chiank is connected to this guy's dascese. And in fact, when um I was talking to our network in South America in Chile especially, and they've got a big file on this guy, and he was notorious for um helping uh do what the Chinese are doing now in British Columbia, forcing Native people off their land, handing over mining concessions to the Chinese, u you know, making agreements with the Peruvian government to allow China to go in in a big way to grab a lot of the especially the mining resources in South America. So I mean this guy is kind of like another person who's in with child trafficking with the Chinese resources almost a photocopy of Bgolio. Right. Yeah. And um one of the viewers has asked here that was he supposed to have ignored complaints about a priest who was hurting children or has that happened multiple times perhaps? Well, that's the policy of course in the Catholic Church. You're supposed to ignore it. You're supposed to bury the evidence. Everyone is silenced by the policy of criminal. Uh they're all expected to protect child rapists and silence eyewitnesses. That's like the norm. Um you know, so in terms of his particular incident though, yeah, like I say, in the last day, uh our um common law court in Chile has been gathering information on this guy. We're going to have more specific dirt on him and the role he's played, but as part of his role of bishop when he was appointed quickly by Brigalio as cardinal. This is don't forget he was appointed cardinal in 2023 soon after Begolio and Petra Perilin the power in the Vatican. They signed that deal with the Chinese to allow um Vatican bank underwriting for the Chinese expansion not only into North America but South America. The whole Pacific Rim, the whole west coast of the Western Hemisphere is now being sucked dry by the Chinese. The resources the like I said this road and belt initiative building roads all through the Amazon um you know to grab the resources. That's what these guys are doing now. And um and so he's appointed cardinal um very quickly. It's kind of like the you know that's why I asked you to put up that picture of Pope Leo from the middle ages because it's like in the middle ages the big families like the Medici and the Borges would get their son appointed as a priest and then rapidly become a cardinal and then become the pope. This is what's happened with this guy. Privost Leo the 14th now is in like that into the Vatican and the position he was appointed to by Burggalio was um basically he he gets to appoint in any dascese he gets to appoint and supervise the priests. Now if you want if you're involved in the child trafficking that's the position you want to be in because you can detect child trafficking quickly silence the whistle you the witnesses and protect the priests. So again, he's strategically placed to help facilitate this child trafficking. And in terms of this guy on the screen, Leo the 10th, he's one of the guys who made the reformation happen. He was uh the guy who excommunicated Martin Luther. He was notoriously corrupt and he was the first pope in history ever to be described as a child rapist. It's very interesting. There's Martin Luther right there. Um it it was because of Leo's intrigence that the the Lutheran and then the other Protestant churches were able to break off because um he was simply a a puppet of the Medici family to keep absolute uh Vatican control over things. Well, the analogy today is quite similar. You got the two big families. You got China and um and America and Russia all as kind of the equivalent of the Borges and the Medishi controlling the situation. they put their man in and uh you know it it's it's kind of like history repeating itself and I don't think it's accidental that these guys choose their names for that reason. Right. So Linda's asking whether we know the sexual orientation of the new pope. Not at this point. Um but you know it it's uh it wouldn't surprise me anything especially since he's friends with William O. I should talk a little bit more about that. Um he and O knew each other. their friends. Now, this guy William O is a not only a suspected, but he was convicted of child rape in America and then took off for Guatemala. The Vatican never and the Catholic Church protected him like they always do. He's living now in Guatemala raping and trafficking children through this thing called Mayan Missions Incorporated. And we have a whole dossier on this guy. Uh but he was associated with the present pope at this a St. Augustine uh college where this guy got a seminary uh theology degree. They both worked out of the same college for a while and they were friends. We know that from the people in Chile. They've documented this. And I should add about the Chileans. Um, the reason that Burggalio was very concerned about uh protecting this this new guy is because back I don't know if you remember this in 2017 Burggalio went to Chile and 22 Catholic churches were burned down just before his arrival by the Mapuche Indians because the Machuche Indians children were being trafficked by guys like this William Moff and uh protected by the church and they burned down the churches because that's where the children were being trafficked out of and where the land needs because the church would go in like we've talked about and grabbed all the indigenous land to get the resources for China. Well, uh when Brigalio, Pope Francis went to Santiago, Chile, he couldn't get out of the diocese diocese and uh palace because he was besieged by thousands of demonstrators who wouldn't let him out. The whole place was in an uproar about his visit. So um I just think it's not accidental that they would then put in somebody out of the same mure to try to keep the lid on things you know uh and to make Americans think and this is whole other piece. Americans now think oh the first American pope I guess we have more of an interest now in the Vatican. Well that certainly serves uh the Vatican's interest because they want to get America on board as they shift towards China. It's a subtle psychological technique to to dampen the criticism of the Vatican just as they're, you know, channeling things to Beijing. Okay. Um, we're getting close to the threshold of using certain words. Uh, Kevin, and YouTube might suppress the video. So, from now on, instead of saying trafficking, can we say transporting? And instead of saying the R thing, can we just say the R word instead of saying you know what what they do to these kids? the ringing of them. Um because we we don't want YouTube to shut the video down. All right. So, the next question is what you know, why are these guys so brazen as to take pictures with kids like this? Like this guy on the screen? Because they know they got away with it. Because they know it's not uh you know a crime to do that to a child. It's it's standard Vatican policy to protect you know people who rape children, violate children. Uh so it's not unusual. It's just it doesn't surprise me at all that a picture appear like that would appear. Um what's significant is the fact that he's tied now. We've already got strong evidence out there quickly that this present pope is tied into these networks and you know with the present or the previous uh figurehead Begolio, right? So, a lot of people are asking about Trump and you know what what role, if any, has Donald Trump played in the election of this new pope? Well, if you remember a few weeks back, uh, Trump dressed up like the pope on his little site and pretend said he wanted to be the pope. you know, being the usual kind of dumbass um remark, but he was back in a guy called Timothy Dolan. He wanted an American poping. He said that all along. Timothy Dolan is uh a cardinal closely tied with Trump International Banking Interest. So, that's one of the reasons Trump wanted him in. He does not like this guy because um he wasn't in his immediate little sphere of control. Um but when you think about it um it helps him in in his whole um relationship with the Vatican because now he probably figures he has more leverage having an apparent American in into that position of authority. Um and you know I mean it's it's always a question of Trump has never done anything that doesn't profit him personally. you know, uh, like for example, the private prison network that's expanding now because his attorney general, Pam Bondi, is a former lobbyist for the prison private prison corporations. A lot of the people apparently being deported are in fact going into these private prisons. Um, Trump International is in trouble financially and he needs the resources of the Vatican bank. So naturally, he wants an American in there. I mean, it it often boils down just to that, right? So you're being asked whether the age of consent in Vatican City is 12. There is no age of consent because time and again uh cardinals and popes have made the remark that uh rape you know doing that having said a child is not a crime it's a sin. So they don't consider the violation of children and any of that stuff even the more heinous acts against children to be crimes. children are born evil, you know, uh in their doctrine and um with the original sin doctrine. So it's like you see these guys the the mentality doesn't change over the centuries. In ancient Roman culture, women and children were not people. They didn't have personalities. They were things appendages of of men. And uh and so that hasn't changed despite how much you know like if you've noticed in the press now they're making this new guy seem like a humanitarian. In fact, his politics are very on the right wing of the Vatican. Um they uh he opposes the ordination of women, that whole kind of thing. So I mean it it's just the nature of the beast. You have to understand what you're dealing with and then none of none of this is surprising, right? All right. So the next question then is there a doctrinal reason for the violation of the children? Doctrinal. Like I say, they believe in original sin. That's their doctrine. um people are uh are born depraved and are only made fully human by getting baptized and being a loyal slave of the church of Rome. And um and so yeah, that's kind of on a doctrinal level, but in reality, we always know the purpose of these things. It's to traumatize people at a young age. It that's how you control them. Do you really think that when you see these masses of people agilating this one man? I mean, where does that come from? The need to worship one man, it's certainly not biblical. In fact, uh it's interesting because when Jesus in Luke chapter 4, when he was tempted in the devil, but in in the in the wilderness by the devil, the devil says to us, Satan says, um, I will give you all the power of the world. Just worship me. And when you look at my book dethrone the rogue power right at the back we have quotes from various popes uh pope John Paul II in 1996 have no fear when men call me Christ on earth for I am he pope Francis Christ made himself sin you need not go to Christ for salvation come to me that's the name of the pope Christari Christi the one who replaces Christ so there when you say are they satanic yes they're worshiping Satan the the power the god of this world rather than God and Christ who said my kingdom isn't of this world. So how can people all do that massive brainwashing at a young age? Every government, every corporate power in the world needs that. That's how you keep a population in line. I think that's the real reason frankly. You getting asked if you can expand on the case of Cardinal Pal um a former alter boy who had been violated apparently ended um his life. Um do you know anything about that? Yeah. Uh he was the Australian Cardinal Pel and Australia is again a bad area for this. The thing to understand is that that these crimes against children happen they follow the money and so Australia like Canada is right on the front line of the Chinese expansion to grab resources and everything. And one of our people in Australia, Virginia Cameron, was murdered after she went in by herself, age 69, into a church and began to read the doctrine of criminal solicitis. I mean, they they kill their opposition there and they get very upset when their crimes against children are exposed. Um the thing thing about Cardinal Pel is he was one of the chief advisers to the Vatican bank and he was part of a faction fight uh between the Ratzinger and Begolio factions that put in Begolio and uh he came out on the losing end but um in the course of investigating them there were a number of eyewitnesses who died quickly including children or former children who came forward to describe him raping them uh aring them if you like whatever you want to uh however you want to describe it, violating children. Um and so yeah, it's it's all connected to that. You know, it's kind of like again like I mentioned the other day, describing scales of the dragon or looking at the whole beast. Once you know the nature of the beast, these things are explainable, right? So Anna wants to know if it's part of the satanic belief system to feed off the energy while violating children, taking the energy from the children. Yeah, definitely. Uh it's it's energetic vampireism. Um and it happens at a spiritual level but psychologically as well. Um it's a technique as we you know in terms of controlling people and inducting them into the cult because one of the things that happens in these satanic cults is that uh they're intergenerational so families belong to them uh prominent Catholic families especially and um they are uh the first child is usually sacrificed the other children are trained to do the same thing to their children. So for example, Toss Nanhos, the Dutch woman who first introduced us into the ninth circle uh into awareness of it. She said that her uh eldest sister was brutally murdered by raped and murdered by their own father and then she was elevated into the cult and she witnessed she claims to have witnessed the manifestation of what she thought was Satan. It could have been some dark entity that was literally feeding off the energy of these children as they were being brutalized and killed. I've witnessed it myself. I mean, I've had experiences of that in Vancouver, uh, which I can describe, which are kind of bizarre, but it involves energy, uh, you know, or whatever word you want to use to describe that, feeding off our energy. And I think that's true for us as a whole society, too. We're we are systematically fed off energetically and mentally by this system. Right. So, Pam's asking, where are the parents of these kids? And Pam, when I watched the documentary about the Irish priest who was getting moved around America, it was like these families trusted the church so much, they just left the priest in the room with their kid to do whatever he wanted over and over again. So, you know, in response to the where what are the parents, Kevin, is it a case of the parents just think these guys, you know, are, you know, representatives of God, and they it's beyond their belief systems that they're doing these satanic things to them. Well, when when the Catholic Church says God, they they're referring to Satan, their God, the God of the world. And people are deeply afraid of that. And I know because uh I've talked to parents, these are indigenous parents, and I asked them that and they said, "When you saw your children being dragged away and you've been raped in front of you by these priests, why didn't you do anything?" And they said, "We were scared. We knew that we'd be arrested and it would happen to us, too." And uh it's at that level of fear, but there is, like you say, a degree of brainwashing that, well, I guess they know better than us. uh if you're raised with the idea that there's something wrong with a newborn child that children have to be you know and this isn't just the Catholic Church the whole European tradition of pedagogy of ra of educating children is the original the stubbornness of a child has to be beaten out of them either physically or mentally or in other ways and they have to be made to conform that's kind of intrinsic to the whole judo Christian culture um this Catholicism is maybe the worst manifestation of it but I mean it's part of the same mindset when it comes to do with children. That's why indigenous children who never had that were were crushed so quickly because they were and their parents were totally trusting about everyone. They didn't think that people would do this to their own children. So it I think it's a sign of the sickness of our culture that goes back many centuries. Yeah. I was an alter boy and I uh you know was left with priests. Um, fortunately nothing happened to me like this, but sadly worn, you know, the Catholic Church has become one of the biggest rings in the world for these monsters. And it's, you know, thanks to Kevin, um, who's at the forefront of exposing this, um, you know, that that we can see the other side and we and we can hopefully alert people so they can protect the kids and don't leave them in in the clutches of these people. All right. So, you know, you touched on the ninth circle earlier and the new pope. Could you expand on that please Kevin and just explain to people again what what the ninth circle is? Well it's can originally Europeanbased uh child sacrifice. It's a sacrificial cult uh closely mirroring the Catholic mass. Um Catholics believe that the priest transforms the communion elements into the literal body and blood of Christ. you're eating Christ's flesh and drinking his blood. Not like a Protestant who believes they're just symbols. But um a Catholic says, "No, that's literally Christ you're eating." Now, it's a cannibalistic cult in that sense wrapped in religion to make people more palatable to people. But um in the ninth circle it's a copy and a reflection of this Catholic mass where it says if you the innocence the blood and the body of the innocents the innocent children a newborn baby especially will redeem you and that's why they cannibalize the child or the the newborn after they they do it. Now there's a satanic element in that as well because they use it as a means to control people. It's believed that the Jesuits set it up in the 1500s. The Jesuits were set up as an army, secret army of the pope to kill any Protestant king in Europe. Their first job was to kill Queen Elizabeth in England in the 1500s. Uh the ones who invited my family as hugenauts from France gave us sanctuary. I wouldn't be here right now. Um but it was the Jesuits set it up as a way to control kings, politicians, judges. Eventually they invite them to these rituals and then trap them. film them, entrap them, and then use them that way. We've Amarie Benberg, a lawyer in Belgium, described how that happened to her. Um, and how she witnessed all these things. So, um, yeah, I mean, it's all that playing itself over and over, right? I remember watching that movie about Queen Elizabeth the first where various people were trying to kill her. So, so what what was the reason they were trying to kill her? the uh I forget which paper bullet it was but uh whatever pope it was back then basically said Elizabeth is a heretic. She like her father she she brought in the Protestant religion in in England and uh she g she was a sanctuary. She was the it was the only power in England at the time. It was the only place you could go and have sanctuary as a Protestant. And remember the Spanish Armada, they tried to overthrow her and then it got destroyed by by the weather. Um, so I mean it's it was power politics back then, you know, between Spain and the Vatican trying to overthrow the one Protestant power that was resisting them along with Holland. Um, so you know, it was that and it was also you had to rub out a bad example, right? Yeah. Is the new pope Jesuit? Not apparently. He's part of what's called the Augustinians and they were a missionary society that operated all over South America um and all over the world really. And whenever you look find missionaries, you see mass murder. Just, you know, follow the uh the history of it and you'll see it. If Jesuits have been banned from being popes for hundreds of years, is the timeline of the last pope being manipulated? That's a good question. I don't know. Um they keep saying this is the last pope. No, this is the last pope. I don't know that that could just be distraction that was put out there. But uh definitely it's a rule within the Jesuits that you know they can never become pope which led people to question whether in fact Bogolio was you know the pope at all and u so you know it's open to speculation. So Leo the 14th, why did he pick that name? I think, you know, it's funny. The Vatican over the centuries has learned to be send in subtle little clues all the time, as if to tease people to say, "Look, hey, look what we're getting away with." Um, that's certainly the mentality of fairly high up church people I've I've uh I've interviewed. And um Leo, as I said, was kind of a bull work against the Reformation. He was extreme conservative, first one to be accused of of raping children. There were stories at the time circulating that uh Leo the 10th would invite children into his private quarters in the Vatican, then they would never be seen again. That's the first time in history that it had ever been referred to. And again, I think it could be just a little reference to to the present guy. Why would he pick the name Leo? Um, you know, I mean it it it's speculative right at this point, but we'll have more information once we get digging more into his personal background because don't forget people like this, there's false biographies put out all the time to shield who they really were and everything. The only way you get the real story is by people in the church or people he's worked with. And that's why this connection he has with this William O and the child trafficking and the uh you know the activities of the church involving okay transportation transportation uh um why it's so crucial to keep pushing in in that area of investigating because where you know where there's smoke there's fire and uh this is a global network and it's one of the more lucrative networks in the world. So we'll see. So Tony saying if we are all equal in the sight of God, why is there so much hierarchy in the church? Because they don't reflect the natural order, natural law, or God. They reflect the like I I say in my book, it's a cult of emperor worship. It has nothing to do with Christ. They monopolize the rhetoric and the appearance of Christianity. It's not a Christian religion. It's based on emperor worship from the late Roman Empire. And uh in the Roman system, there's no such thing as equality. It was based on on hierarchies. Uh you didn't have an identity. There's no name in Latin for the word I. You were an extension of something or someone else. people refer to, you know, the capitalized letters in your ID that came from the Roman uh it refers to a piece of property or a slave capitalist demonucia maxima. It means um you are an object that we can manipulate. So the the Roman church has never it's been the main force in history against equality. John Adams the second American president said if the Roman Catholic Church ever achieves power in America the republic is over because liberty and popery are opposed two totally different notions you know and that's why the Chinese and them get along so well because they have the same notion of of emperor worship you know one guy in charge the corporatist system u the whole global system is based on that now of rule by one man and or one authority and uh and so yeah It's it's like asking why doesn't a lion become a vegetarian, right? Okay. What does his election indicate about the future of the papacy? I think it indicates more that the the move towards China is is increasing quickly. Uh I mentioned in the last interview how in China it's the only country in the world where the government and the Catholic Church work together to appoint bishops and cardinals to determine what what the public actions and statements of the church. It's like fused. And I think the same thing could very easily happen in America now. Um I think you're seeing a convergence happening all over the planet where big money the the the state and the church merge into one body. Now, traditionally, that's how genocide operates, that unholy triangle, big money, church, and state. Now, it's globalized. And so, I think it wouldn't be surprise me, just like it's I'll be surprised if there's ever another US election. Uh, but I will it wouldn't surprise me if you have the same development in America where the American pope here announces, well, we've come to an agreement with the Trump administration as to how the church should be operating. Trump himself has said he'd like to see that. The Burggalio Pope Francis was continually referring to the need for a one world government and pushing uh big pharma stuff and everything. So I think that's the convergence. We're seeing this convergence of all the power into one big super corporation and uh the Vatican is at the head of that because they're the main financial power in the world. Right. This is interesting. So in China, the majority of the population either identifies as having no religion or follows Chinese folk religions. Buddhism, Christianity and Islam, have significant followings, although to a lesser extent, Christianity including both Protestant and Catholic denominations is followed by around 5 to 7% of the population. When and when the population is that big, that's still a hell of a lot of people, isn't it, Kevin? That's what I'm talking about. It's proof. If there were more Catholics in China, it would make sense. But if there were only 5% of the population or less, how come the Chinese government is the only country in the world to work with the Vatican? Well, because it's not about religion. The religion, just politics and religion are for the masses. It's to keep people deluded that, you know, there's such a thing as honesty in government, justice, rule of law. It's about money. It's about power of the few over the many. And the best system to achieve that is a corportocracy. The hierarchy that we've been talking about, the Vatican and the Mau system of you could call it state capitalism or the merger of, you know, money and power into one state system. They perfected it. They're buenom buddies. They they see the world in the same way. So, it's it's a prototype. It's like what China is doing with the Vatican is a is like a forerunner to the way the whole world's going to be. And that's why it's important to follow this stuff because it's like the canary in the mine shaft. What you see going now on now with this stuff is going to be the future of the world unless we stop it with an alternative and and that's what we we're trying to create on the ground now with the sovereign republics. So we got 1,500 watching live across all platforms presently. Kevin's absolutely on fire tonight. He's come on on very short notice because we've got this new pope. If you've got any questions, folks, put them in the chat and keep them on point so we can keep Kevin going for some longer. And also, all of Kevin's links, books, etc. are in the description box if you are watching this on YouTube. And Kevin really appreciates all the people who who've um got his book recently and have been in touch and are enjoying it because there's far more details in the books. But um it's terrifying stuff what um what we're hearing here this evening this this inversion. And you know we we were talking about world politics as well. So with with China then um are you saying that the Chinese are co-opting or is it the other way around? The Catholics are co-opting the Chinese. I think each think they're doing it to the other. But um the the reality is if you follow the money, the Vatican holds the financial power. And uh speaking of that, remember when Van JD Vance went to Rome? Um one of our sources in Washington said it was to take a bribe to put Dolan Timothy Dolan in as pope. Um bribe not just financially, but which is funny. You don't it's kind of hard to bribe the biggest financial power in the world, but it wasn't that kind of bribe. It was giving concessions to the Catholic Church in America along lines of what I was saying previously. And um yeah, so I mean I think it's it's that repeat your question. Sorry I got off on this tangent. Yeah, we were asking about the co-opting oh of the Vatican by China and vice versa. Right. So it's the financial pull of the Vatican is one source of power, but the fact that the the world's population and economic engine is now in the east gives China the authority. It's why it's going to be the superpower within less than 30 years militarily and every other way. Um I think Trump's on board with that. I think that's one of the reasons he's deliberately gutting the country and uh feeding the conflict because it's the best way to dissolve America in the face of China's buying up of it. Um so I think you have a convergent of interests and so they're they're in the final analysis they're all on the same team but how they go about it is different. You got to maintain the appearance with your own group your own flock so as not to alienate them too much. So it's done in stages, right? It's like the frog boiling in the water gradually, right? So I HHS on Pope Leo's robes when he was presented to the world. Do we know what that means? IHS. Yeah, it's Latin. It means Well, there's different ideas of what it means. Uh in seminary, I was taught it means it's Latin for Jesus, uh Savior, and something. I can't remember. It's supposed to be a Latin designation, but don't forget a lot of those Latin designations are from the Roman Empire. And uh like the you know the there's a thing it looks like a P with kind of an X through it. Um laburnum it's called. It was a military uh symbol from the Roman Roman cavalry. All of these military symbols and everything went right into the Vatican. It's that's why I say it's it's a continuence of the Roman Empire literally in every way including how people see the pope. Yeah. I'm looking they say there's an estimate of the Vatican's global wealth um could reach 265 billion US dollars. Do do you think that's accurate or is that um underestimate? That's a pittance because don't forget calculate about threequarters of the world's bank deposits go into the Vatican bank or its partner the bank of international settlements in Geneva and uh a lot of the offshore accounts and everything. The financial concordats where a certain percentage of tax money from over a 100 countries is channeled right into the Vatican bank without taxpayers or politicians even knowing it or colluding quietly. uh all the collection money brought in all their corporate investments. It's it's in the trillions, you know, but of course they've got to keep fiddling the figures. It's like in Canada when the government keeps changing the figures about how many children died in the red schools when it was over 50%. Some days they'll say it was 3%, some days they'll say it was 5%, maybe even a bit more. It depends. You know, you rewrite history every five minutes like George Oral says to keep everybody confused, right? Yeah, because the last estimate of Chinese GDP is $18 trillion US in 2023. We've got US at 27 um trillion, but China is expected to overtake America, isn't it, in the coming years, I think. Well, it already has in terms of like GB GDP and things like that. America's where Britain was after World War II. It's rapidly going down the toilet and uh China is where America was. It's the rising power but uh yeah it it's how can how can the Vatican not be bloated with wealth considering his situation right indeed. James wants to know what is the best book to buy by Kevin which focuses on Catholic corruption. Well of course this is the most recent one. It goes into all the hard facts. Uh but all throughout my other works I continually refer to this stuff. If you go to murderbyderee.com, that's my book, which is also on Amazon. Murder by decree, the crime of genocide in Canada. We had to put it online because it kept disappearing from libraries all the time, destroyed. Um, but in that murder by decree, you have concrete evidence of how the Catholic Church operated in Canada to commit genocide, to to do all these other crimes against children. And uh then you can get a lot of hard details, but u start with that for sure. And um like I say, contact me at that email and on the site Sean has posted and um I can feed you a lot more information on the ground of things we're learning all the time. So that book though that you've got dethroning is is there a a summary on the back um that you of the cover that you could read to us? The Vatican Incorporated and the Church of Rome is a criminally convicted corporation that has killed more people than any institution in human history. Yet it is treated as a legitimate nation and offers the protection of the law and diplomacy in many countries and at the United Nations despite its disqualification as a bonafideed or lawful power. This book makes the argument for denying the Vatican any presence or membership of the United Nations backed with a hard evidence of its crimes and illegitimacy. And like to give you an example, um a transnational criminal organization is a a criminal body of three or more people that traffics human beings, launderers money for crime, uh traffics and arms and uh migrant lit workers. If you do any of those things, well, the Vatican does at least three and probably four of them. So under a law, it's a TNCO. It's a transnational criminal body. Doesn't have the right to operate. And as citizens, you're not only allowed to, but you're expected to not cooperate with that, i.e. not give the money and seize their property and wealth as reparations. They they you see, any money you give to the Catholic Church is funding a criminal body. And so you're committing a crime against humanity by doing that. So are all the governments. The point is when everybody's in in bed with the criminal, you look like there's something wrong with you when you say no, right? And you become the problem. as I experienced personally and so do a lot of other people on the ground who take on this this thing. So we have to know know your enemy otherwise you can't fight it otherwise you're in this baywick and and there's no way to stop any of these things. So Kevin with the previous pope pretending he was for peace and saying people shouldn't invest in you know arms manufacturers etc. How does that compare to the present pope? Is he going down that PR route as well or does he not give a hoot? Oh, he'll have to go down the same PR route because it's a blatant lie. That's why I know you when you talk about are they Satanists? How is Satan described in the Bible the father of lies? Every time these guys open their mouth, they lie. They have to because the Vatican is one of the biggest arms dealers. When you look at the the in its investments, it owns the biggest um small arms company in the world, Beretta Limited. It's for um MI missile systems, guidance systems are heavily invested at every level. And Burggalio could make that statement um because everybody knows that it didn't mean anything in practice because the Pope's just a figurehead. The College of Cardinals isn't going to come on and say that but their their guy, their p, you know, their figurehead, the hand puppet is can say that without any consequence. This the present guy will do. If anything, he'll make even more ludicrous remarks because you see he he has to uh follow what I believe is the agenda and that's uh bring America into the Chinese camp and um you know so I mean that's the big purpose but again there's all the other things that Bishop of Rome was expected to do to keep their investments going right. Paul wants to know whether the Vatican is invested in gene editing and big farmer. Yes, in a big way. Uh it's one of the chief uh one of its chief investment portfolios involves big pharma. um not only the genetic GMO stuff and all that, but they were in the forefront of testing drugs. uh when people talk talk about the COVID drugs and the the nano particle stuff and the bioweaponry that was pioneered by in in to give you an example that we know best in the Indian hospitals in Canada as early as the 1950s expatriate Nazi scientists and sponsored by the Vatican brought out through the rat lines uh the future Pope Paul V 6 was the guy who arranged the rat lines and brought the Nazi scientists into North America and South America. um you know they're in the forefront of developing a lot of those drugs. So I mean you know they're almost synonymous with big pharma when you look at where their money goes. Question from Leaky. Do you think there's any overlap between the Vatican's handling of clergy abuse under Leo I 14th and the systemic coverups you've discussed with the royals? Or is the Vatican a separate entity? No, they're not separate at all. As a matter of fact, I'll give you an example of that. Um, just before I was deported from England in 2011, I had spoken at Trafalga Square at a big rally. It was a protest the Pope March. We had 20,000 people in the street to protest when Ratzinger came to England. He met with Queen Elizabeth. It was called the Hollywood agreement. And it was an agreement whereby Elizabeth violated her coronation oath by negotiating the return of the Church of England into the Church of Rome. uh she should have been uh bounced on the spot if uh England followed its own constitutional law. But what that did was it merged the policies. So by the criminal policy in the Catholic Church where everyone is silenced the police are not told and uh the child rap child whatever is protected then violator violator. Yeah. Okay. Fine. Um that now applies to the church of England. every Anglican priest is expected to follow it too. So they're not separate bodies at all. In a way they never were because in Rome they think the pope is the head of the church. In England the king is but in reality Christ is to a Christian. So I mean they're both variations on the same theme. Right. So PM wants to know is something cooking with this new pope and opus day. Uh can you explain to people what opus day is first? Yeah, it means the works of God. Uh, which is funny. They mean the works of Satan. But, um, it was a secret uh, cult, a militaristic cult that, uh, started 19th century, mid-9th century I believe. And they're behind a lot of the, um, military dictatorships around the world. You often see Opus DA members. Uh when Burggalio was archbishop of Buenazeris, he was friends with the guy who set up the death squads, Joseé Lopez Rega, who was an Opus Day member. They went around and killed anybody who the military hunter didn't like. They would take priests and nuns, throw them out of helicopters into the ocean. Well, Begorio stood by and uh you know did a PR job for the military hunter. Well, that was all Opus DA stuff. I believe most of the generals were members of Opus DA. They were big in Spain under the Franco dictatorship. So they're also a financial force like the Jesuits. You'll see them in uh you know heavily involved in American banks like City Bank uh HSBC those those banks. So you know kind of a one of the other u manifestations of this Satanism we're talking about right? So Luke wants to know is the pope not only the head of the Roman Catholic institution but also a sovereign king over a nation state? No. Uh, nation states, there's four definitions of what a a nation state is under the Monte Video Convention of 1933, international law. The Vatican satisfies none of those definitions. They don't have a stable population. They don't have a military power to defend their borders. They don't have border checks or passports, any of that stuff defining a nation. The ability to enter into treaties, they don't. Um, and so they're not a nation state. Um, and it's a fiction. It's what uh Jeffrey Robertson, he's a Queen's Council in England, wrote a good book called The Case of the Pope. And he tears apart the whole argument that they're even any kind of nation state. He calls them a Santa Claus state. A Santa Claus state is something everybody pretends exists for the sake of politics and and power. But in fact, um, they have no authority, spiritual or temporal. It's just a big fiction. And um and so this whole notion that he's some kind of absolute dictator, he has no authority. That's why when we convicted Ratzinger and forced him out of office, that's why he hid in the Vatican till the day he died because he knew he has no power. As soon as he steps out of their little club, he could be arrested, including by citizens who exercise citizen arrest power. So, you know, I mean, that's we've got to really cut through that fiction. And in fact, I go into detail on that in in the dethroning book. Ray J wants to know whether you Kevin have any plans for a case against Leo. Well, it wouldn't be me. It would be the international comma court of justice. But um it's a standing court which means you see the thing to understand he's the CEO officially of Vatican incorporated. He is automatically guilty by being in the position because the Vatican is already a criminally convicted power. It's like would Hitler's successor have been put on trial in Nuremberg? Yes, because he was part of a of a a criminal state. Similarly here, he's automatically investigated and depending on the dirt that comes up about him and the ability to bring a successful prosecution against him, that'll determine it. But I mean, the the real issue here is he's already been found guilty by being associated with that thing. It's not a matter of information and and more cases now. It's a matter of enforcement. How are you going to make the arrest? You have the power to do that. Like I said earlier, you can occupy any Catholic church, seize its property as reparations. Um that you know the I go into detail in that in in the Carlatranium manual book I have about how to actually go about setting up that prosecution. But the real test is in your own community. You know, every Catholic priest is involved in child trafficking. It's up to the people in your community whether you want that to happen or not. Right. So Tashelle wants to know whether the new pope is pretty much part of the club or is he a free thinker. You can't be a freethinker and become the bishop of Rome. Um if you if you tried something outside the the agenda, you end up dead after 28 days like Pope John Paul I in 1978. Right? So, I mean, um, if he did have a little thing of conscience in there somewhere, it would either be crushed right away or he might be found dead or he'll just go along and play the ball. But you, by definition, in any hierarchy, people of conscience don't last long. That's not how you rule by having a conscience. You have to suppress that in order to rule. That's why we often say people at the pinnacle of any system are the craziest, the most dissociated because they they they're not allowed to be who they are. and to be freeth thinkers and that's proven all the time, right? Just look around. So, what specific traits does Leo have that made them select him in your opinion? Well, a number of theories. It could be the fact that Burggalio uh had been maneuvering to have him as a successor. I mean, don't forget this guy went from a bishop to a cardinal like that about not even two years ago. just put in and uh when Brigalio had signed the deal with China and when his own health was failing, this guy becomes a cardinal. So it could have been an arranged thing from Brigalio's end, but it could also be an agreement with when you want a change to happen, you don't pick anyone obvious. If they had picked a Chinese cardinal, it would have been obvious. Well, that's China manipulating things. You bring somebody who's totally unknown out of left field and nobody knows anything about him and he's free to do whatever the hell he wants. And uh that's politically how people like this come in. The very fact that he's unknown means he's got a lot of dirt on him and a lot of associations that they didn't want you to know about. So that could be another factor too. But ultimately comes down to geopolitics. What's going on between America and China? Why do you put an American in now? Because for obvious public relations reasons and to woo American Catholics into the Vatican camp. And uh I think that that's kind of self-evident, right? So even Mainstream was putting out some articles uh about him his reputation being marred by his attitude towards the priests that were busted, violating the kids. Do do you think that attitude worked in his favor to get him elected? Oh yeah. Well, I mean, don't forget he's tied in directly with with these networks we talked about for William and the Mayan United and South America. Imagine what goes on in Canada brought down to South America. That's kind of the equivalent of what he represents. So naturally, he's got to protect his friends. He's not going to rat out these guys who are doing these things to children. And he's kind of proved that that was the credentials. He had to prove that he had the right stuff to enforce criminal policy and to keep the whole thing hidden. And I think he that's what he's doing. Right. And in the poorer countries of the world, is it easier for these priests to get away with these violations against kids? Absolutely. It's it's uh if you think it's easy in in place like England or America where the law is on their side to do whatever they want to children, you know, in a war torn area or a povertystricken area. I learned this when I was in Guatemala and Mexico. It's open season, you know, and parents sell their own children to survive. I mean it's that's why they're so I think that's why the the uh church of Rome is so big in in Asia and Africa and South America because they can pray on people there more effectively right and you know there was an interesting study done as people's in Mexico as people became more affluent they went to church less but the people who are in the Catholic churches are always the poorest you see this you know the poorest people are going to the Catholic church because there's nothing in your life to believe in you got to believe in this fancy sensible, you know, tale you're given that if you play along, you'll go to heaven if you play on in our club. And as people gain ability to support themselves, the fear goes away and rel fear and religion. And I think they've proven this in in studies, the same part of the brain responsible for fear and aggression, it's also tied into the religious impulse, right? The kind of the ecstatic desire to believe in that. And that's not accidental. It's a fear-based system, religion, right? Good grief, Kevin. You know, my baby Zigggy here, he's not even two years old yet. And what you said there about parents just selling the kids up, giving the kids up to the church babies. Oh, that just made me feel absolutely sick. Are these parents just naive, idealistic, have faith in the church, or do they know what's what's going to happen to these kids? Oh, they know. I mean, everybody knows. Um, but if you're going to be able to feed three of your kids by giving up one of them, what are going to people going to do? I mean, the choices of the destitute are something it's hard to understand unless you're there. And uh and yet that's that's just fed off, of course. That's really upset me. All right, so Leaky says, "Pope Francis's death on Easter Monday, was it faked or timed by the Vatican for symbolic reasons?" It's a big show. It's always designed for for a psychological impact, right? Why do why was he named after Francis of Aisi in the first place? Right? I mean, you know, we had to clean up Ratziger's mess. So, we got to bring in a sinkly guy who was, you know, and you know, it's it's just so obvious that all we have to use is our common sense and we can see through these lives, right? Yeah. And I just want to thank the viewers for all keeping all the questions on point tonight. The questions just got so weird last time. We've got almost 2,000 people um watching live right now. And um Ray J wants to know and please keep your questions coming folks. Ray J wants to know, "What does Kevin think the next few years will show or hide?" I frankly, personally, I was reflecting on this this morning, and I think we're at a point in history like the Reformation. You're seeing a lot of corrupt stuff, but something new is emerging from within it. It always does. It's like the law of nature is anything that appears in one way, its opposite appears at the same time. And we're seeing all over the world this thing I talk about, right? Sovereignty, spiritual, personal, political sovereignty. And that means we're going to see more and more of a opposition and also breaking away happening in the church of Rome. Like they they always portray themselves as this unitary monolith. It isn't. It's breaking up all over the world. I worked with a group of Catholic priests in in Ireland called Not in Our Name, and they had all split off. They you don't hear from them because the media censored out all this stuff. The Vatican owns a lot of the media, but um they had said, "Okay, we're going to just be our own congregations. We're not going to have anything to do with Rome because of its corruption and crimes and everything. We're just going to go our own way." And you're going to see that. You see that happening all over now. And you're going to see more of that. It's going to get worse and better all at the same time. And we then have a choice. It's a good time because then you people more and more are going to have to make a choice. Where do you stand? Right? And um you know that happens like I say in your own family, in your own community, but also right here. You're going to make a choice right here once you know the truth. Are you going to serve the evil anymore or get on board with the new rising alternative that I I hope in some way our work embodies? And um you know, so that's why I say look at the bigger picture and and stay strong. You know, we wouldn't have survived all these centuries of corruption and murder unless we had an innate goodness and reason in all of us. And that's what we have to appeal to more and more, you know. Let let me respond to this one. So M is saying, "I am a Catholic. Please stop the bashing." M I am a Catholic as well. I I was an alter boy. Uh raised Catholic. You know, my grandparents very religious when I was a child. My sister turned her bed bedroom into a a shrine like an altar with all all of her religious artifacts. And we're not bashing. There's good and bad in every institution. And to protect kids, we've got to shine a light on the bad. And it's is a fact that the Catholic Church houses one of the biggest rings in the world of adults who violate kids. It's a fact. And if you watch if you if you looked at the criminal cases, these priests, they the Catholic Church brings in these fancy lawyers. They just move the priests around to different jurisdictions or different countries to avoid prosecution and they end up with hundreds and hundreds of victims. It's it's absolutely disgusting. Well, it you know, and I would say to the person who wrote that, no, I do not respect a faith that that is involved in these crimes and that violates and denies scripture and the lives of children all the time and then persecutes people who try to expose it. That's nothing to be respectful of. You can have whatever faith you want as long as it doesn't harm another human being. And I I don't understand why that's so difficult to get. And I don't understand how people who know that can put money in a collection plate and directly fund these child killers. So that's something you have to ask in in your own conscience. Um and what whatever that has to do with Jesus, you tell me because I don't see any connection. Just think that money going into that plate could be paying for a fancy lawyer to come and protect one of these child violators so they can just get a slap on the wrist and and commit more crimes. It's it's absolutely disgusting and unless we shine a light on this, there's just going to be more and more victims and it and it's got to stop. So Chris wants to know what are the daily de dayto-day responsibilities and duties of the pope. He's a figurehead. So there aren't necessarily any duties. I know this from priests and other people I spoke to in Italy. Um that essentially he's a showman. So he presides at certain uh conferences and meetings of the cardinals. Okay. Um he has that administrative role. He does a lot of public relations tours all over the world so all the slaves can get down and worship him. Um, you know, but I mean it it's essentially a figurehead position and uh like I mentioned the real power in the Rome uh in in the Vatican, Petro Perilin, he spends a lot of the time at the center of power, not like this guy. This guy is not at the center of power. Um, and so, you know, that's kind of a short answer. So Angela wants to know who are the higher up people that control the Vatican. Well, spiritually the the father of lies, Satan, I believe, and um politically and in terms of this world, it's their bankers, it's the Carnage of Cardinals, and it's their um connections with various governments like China. that I mean like we so show showed in China they it's it's run by a joint committee of the Chinese government and and the Vatican. So I mean in a nutshell um so France wants to know if you think this pope will continue to be involved in moving around and covering up kids uh covering up priests who violate kids. He has to. It's the policy that he do. So, uh, Kreman Silicitanis, read it at go to murderbyderee.com, read in the appendices, one of the appendices there. The entire policy, every Catholic in the world, not just every clergy and every cardinal and pope, but every Catholic in the world, and this is again dressed to the previous person who objected about us taking on her church. She is expected to enforce criminal, which means if you know of a child being raped, you're not to protect that child. You're to protect the church, not the child. And you can't tell the police. That's a criminal conspiracy. I mean, imagine if the mafia was doing that. Mafia is saying, "We have a policy that any, you know, Italian child raped, we're not to tell the police." They'd be immediately arrested. Well, how come they get to do it because they have a cross on their building? It's crazy that this guy's in plain sight being elected. He's got a history of doing it and, you know, he's probably going to continue to do it. It's um it's like they just don't care. So AE is asking how do we go about dismantling this corrupt institution? Well, we outline that actually the back book of right at the back we say a plan of action. Um it happens on different levels. First of all, don't attend. Get your friends not to attend. Don't give money if you do. Uh join our movement. We have uh in nine countries now we have campaigns. It's called banishment and reclamation. And it came up an indigenous idea that we just go into the churches, take them over. Banished. They've been banished from these nine countries. And like in the Republic of Canada, we have a policy. The Catholic, Anglican, United Churches aren't allowed to operate on their territory. They're convicted criminal bodies that harm children, harm the community, defraud, and steal money from the community. And um and so they're not allowed to operate. So you can do that from the grassroots. Uh that's how you deflate a system right at the grassroots. But also you can make this an issue politically. You can say to your politicians um stop funding, stop giving tax exemptions and any kind of privileges to the Vatican, nullify your diplomatic relation, expel the papal nunio. It's all described in in dethrowning rogue power, but also murderby decree.com. But most importantly, write to us and we can get you involved in that campaign. Yeah, because you're asking, James is asking how can he join your movement. So, with the links in the description box, people can contact you, can't they? Republic. Um, yeah, Angel Fire101 at protonmill.com is the best way. And, uh, there's other links that Sean has up. So, Claudia wants to know, do you know who the other two papal contenders were? There are a number of them listed. Uh, Petra Perilin was in there. You know, they had to put him in. Um the uh just kind of for appearance sake there was a Chinese fellow I forget his name and also Geraldo Lqua the night circle guy in Canada we talked about last time. Okay so Hazel wants to know does the Roman Catholic Church brainwash people from childhood by ritual and repetition? Yeah. And um well Sean, you could probably answer that better because you were raised in the cult, but uh I I never was. But uh it's also the underlying fear of damnation going to hell and you're you're incomplete without the sacraments. You know, you're incomplete without us. It's that that you know childhood dependency that they never change, right? Yeah. And I was educated in Catholic school as well. So that ritual and repetition extended into our assemblies and our religious education classes and you know to this day I remember all the sitting up the when you got to sit down and stand up and all the different prayers our father Hail Mary um contrition confession and then they tell you to you know the contrition what you what you've got how many our fathers and hail Marys you've got to say um Yeah. So, there's there's a lot of um rep repetition. All right. Um Tellelle wants to know where does all the money from the Vatican go? Oh, well, it goes into places like uh the international banking cartel is are totally in integrated with the Vatican bank. So, you could also ask, well, where does all their money go? It goes into the whole financial system. It goes into the military in a big way. uh all their investments. Um the problem is we don't know because the Vatican Bank is a completely secret society. You can't audit it. You can't know who the directors are. The only information we've ever gotten is from sources within the Vatican who leak us this information. But it was set up by Mussolini, the fascist dictator in 1929 to be a closed society. And it's very murky in there, right? And you don't know what they're doing. But we do know that a lot of the world's money is being channeled into it and um you know that's something that needs a lot more digging. Haven't a few people ended up murdered associated with the Vatican bank. Oh yeah. Yeah. The uh Roberto Kelby, the Vatican's banker found hanging under Blackfire Bridge in London. That happened right at the same time uh that they killed John Paul the 1. the Santa Alanza, the uh is the name of the Vatican assassination espionage bureau. They killed him. They poisoned him. Anybody who knew uh John Paul the first uh or worked with them or investigated his death, they were all dead within a year or two from car bombings, assassinations, um you know, so it's all part of that mess, right? Tellelle is the Vatican the nucleus or head of all Christian religions and churches? No. No, it's not a Christian religion and it's part of you see this thing came out of what was called Vatican 2 in 1962. This thing called accuminism which meant all the world's religions get together. Uh but it's kind of like the chickens get getting together with the elephant. What happens? They get stomped. you know, um the the notion the Vatican has about Cumminism is that there's no power outside Rome. All of you people are false churches. Um and what distinguishes the Christian church is the belief that Christ is the head of their church, not a man in Rome. It's a fundamental division. That's why every Protestant church in history used to refer to Rome as the Antichrist. None of them do now because they're all getting funded out of it. and what's called the World Council of Churches, which is the Protestant, it's kind of like the Protestant equivalent of the Vatican. It's a federation of all these Protestant churches around the world, but they're just a reflection of the Vatican now. They've been completely co-opted as part of the United Nations to create this one world church, one world government system. And I know that in seminary, you know, when I began to criticize the World Council of Churches, they did not like that anymore than later when I described the crimes of genocide against children. Um, so I mean, it's become it's part of the big cabal. And so it's hard to to say there are such things as Christian churches anymore. I think they're pretty much integrated into the the global corportocracy, right, that's enunciated in Rome. So Corey wants to know what we mean when we're saying that the Vatican is satanic. It reflects the power of this world rather than of God. And I think that should be obvious. I mean, did why would God need a a cathedral and billions of dollars of money and arms trading and and a policy protecting, you know, those who harm children? Um, what does it have to do with God? It should be obvious. It's right in it's like the elephant in the living room. It's staring at our face. Um so Satan in the Bible is the one who is the enemy. Satan means adversary, the adversary of God. So you know in in in all faiths you look at God is that they described as a spiritual power within us. The kingdom of heaven is within you not in the church. And Satan represents the the adversary of that. And the church of Rome is for many reasons you can look at historically. If you look read the real histories, you'll see that it's the embodiment of that worldly power. But like Satan, father of lies, it exists be behind a lie of piety and co-opting Christ into Christendom. Right? And that's a whole history in of itself. And I go into a little bit of that in dethroning, but I've written some other books on that as well. I'll just add to that that my personal belief is crimes against children are the most evil acts anyone can commit. And any institution that enables, condones, protects perpetrators is not pious. It's an inversion of what it's purporting to be. So, Jen wants to know, "Are you aware of what Italians really think about the Vatican?" Yeah, I've done a lot of work in Italy. As a matter of fact, in the fall, uh, in September, I'm coming back to Europe and giving talks all over, and I'm looking forward to go to going to Rome. Uh, but in Northern Italy, there's a whole network of people who are setting up their own um, common law assemblies, and um, they we're talking to those folks. That's one of the questions I often ask them. Well, how much support does the church have anymore? They say it's a formal kind of support, especially from older people. Um, but like you found in Quebec, in Canada, a lot of people don't go to church anymore. You know, it's like they say 1.4 billion Catholics in the world. That's formal. You know, that's people go to church as I experienced on Easter or for baptisms or funerals, but they're not devout. And you don't find that devotion even in Italy anymore. I remember that case in uh when Burggalio went to Ireland which is supposed to be this loyal Catholic country. He got about 5% turnout at the rallies he was to speak at that they figured and Italy's a lot like Ireland. But so I think it's crumbling all over the world and the more you're you're the reality of it crumbles the more you have to create this edifice this appearance that you're doing fine and you're reforming and we we believe in children all of this garbage you know that you can do with billions of dollars at your disposal. But the reality is something much more basic and you're seeing it fall apart on the ground. And I I I travel a lot. I see that all over. You know, almost 2,000 watching live across all platforms presently. Please support Kevin's links and check out his books. And Ray J, do you see any connection between the anti-Russian agenda and American pope being elected? That's interesting because you've touched on China quite a lot, but and China's and and Russia um are seem to be quite close versus America's relationships with them. Well, I mean, um yeah, it is there, like I say, there's a convergence happening and you know, Trump made overshares to Russia and then to the Ukraine. He's you have to kind of uh you got to create a fog all the time. Machavei talks about this in the prince. He says when you're a ruler, you got to always create a fog about what you're doing and therefore people it gives you freedom of action because you're basically robbing from and murdering people but you have to peer behind a a appearance of legitimacy to do that. So you got to always keep people confused about what you're really doing. And that's what's going on now. Um you know they're not going to blow the world apart in a war. They're going to converge. This is good business. this is good politics just to work out the difference. That's and the Vatican's at the center of doing that. They're the power that financially and in other ways can bring them all together and kind of in a nutshell. Yeah. Angela wants to know, are there any reasons you're aware of that the cardinals didn't choose an Italian pope? Well, don't forget like the ninth circle is really being a lot in the news. It's coming out more and more um not in the mainstream corporate press, but all over people are aware of it. So, you got to kind of deemphasize that now. It's tied in with the old Italian mob. They're tied in with what's called Dangada, which is um the Italian mafia or the European mafia that provides a lot of the children and the and the teenagers and that for these rituals. Uh so, it makes sense to shift over to the new world, get an American in, somebody who is in South America. But unfortunately by doing that you're then exposing that whole Pacific Rim corruption and and uh you know that we've been talking about. So it's just a shift to kind of get people people don't forget people have the three men in memory right. Is it possible they may have slowly poisoned the last pope to replace him? I don't think they have to. I mean he was pretty much playing along. He was instrumental in with Petro Perilin in getting the Chinese underwriting or underwriting the Chinese for their Western Hemisphere expansion. Um, and so yeah, and they've already done that once. You know, they they don't they don't need to. He was a loyal player from the beginning, ever since he was doing the deal with the Hunter in Argentina in the 80s. Tommy wants to know, have you ever come across any information on the Black Pope? Yeah, the Jesuits, you know, people remember how we forced Rasinger out of office, but we don't. They forget that we in fact forced the Jesuit head out of office at Dulip Bashan a year later uh in uh April 2014 uh because we found that uh the Jesuits were at the center of so much of this historically and they were kind of spearheading the move towards China kind of shifting support and um I think that's one of the reasons he stepped down but you know they're like Petra Perilin there financially as well kind of the string puller the kingmaker in the background right so this question presupposes that the Vatican has financial problems according to Kevin the Vatican is sucking the financial wealth from all of the countries of the world into its own self um papa saying can the Vatican's financial problems be fixed by having a savvy pope or are they too deeply rooted well yeah you're right Sean in a But but here's the other thing too. Um every time the Vatican talks about uh Vatican financial problems and financial reform, Brigalio did that and it was to cover up the fact that um he was involved for example when he was in Argentina he used the Vatican bank to buy excess missiles for the Argentine haunted to in the Faullands war. And as matter of fact I know know this from people in in the British government. Maggie Thatcher was so angry at him for having done that that she put out a hit on him. The MI6 was looking for a way to kill Archbishop Begolio who never would never become Pope Francis. But you know, so anyway, that's so the whole talk of financial reform is is propaganda to find a way to cover up corruption or even solidify their their stuff even more, you know, on the banks. Pam wants to know, "Has the Vatican bank ever being robbed?" That wouldn't end up very well for the robbers. I imagine when you look at the all of the stuff with them and Kevin about they've got their own intelligence agencies, they've got their own assassins, they've got their own military, their own police, their own laws is well, Roberto Kelby, we mentioned the the banker who was found hanging uh under uh that's in the movie Godfather, part two. They show him hanging under Black Friars's Bridge uh in London. But uh he was someone who was trying to steal uh well steal they're the biggest thieves in history but to steal from them. Um and another thing to look at though which brings in the president pope as well he's from Chicago and the Chicago Catholic Church are deeply involved with the Chicago mob uh Cardinal Cody COD Y Paul Marinus it's in this book in God's name uh by David Yellup. It's about the assassination of Pope John Paul the Priest. should look it up. Y A L L O P David Yellup. And it goes into great detail of the connection between the the Chicago mafia and the Vatican and how numerous popes including Ratzinger had advisors uh cardinals who are openly mafia members like Cardinal Bevaluca in uh in New Jersey who just before the first trial of a of a whole bunch of priests in Philadelphia for for you know raping violating children. Um they he dies suddenly. Cardinal Babaluca dies in bed the day before he used to appear in court. And again it's tied in with the mob connection between Chicago i.e. present pope i.e. you in the Vatican bank. So there you go. Let let me give a definition before I ask you this question. So, Operation Gladadio was the code name for clandestine staybehind operations organized by Western Union, NATO and the CIA in collaboration with European intelligence agencies during the Cold War. Specifically, Gladio refers to the Italian branch of these networks and the question from Rey is are we seeing the modern version of Operation Gladadio in plain sight? I think it's ongoing and it isn't connected to just one papal figurehead. Um, an example of that too and I think another reason they killed uh the guy in 1978, John Paul I was he had found out about this thing called the P2 lodge right in the college of Cardinals. And P2 wasn't just a Freemasons club, but it involved the the biggest industrialists, generals, politicians in Italy. It was like a secret government within the government. And they were in touch with groups all over the world that have in place contingency plans for if a particular government is doing things they don't like, you know, like taking over banks or trying to help the people more, you know, whatever. uh that's goes into place. They've gotten in England. There was a movie called A very British coup back in the 80s about that eventuality where they just there was a labor government. He started nationalizing banks. Boom. They were out. Um you know, and the king invited in this new government kind of thing. So that's permanently in place. It's like private prisons. I mean, they're always there if they have to do a coup on somebody. And so that's the thing to keep in mind. Who bankrolls them? Guess who? Vatican bank usually. So, Jen wants to know, "Will you be visiting the Vatican on your next trip to Rome or are you banned?" I'm not banned at all. As a matter of fact, they they expelled me from England. Um, no, I I I will go there. I want to give talks in Rome and maybe I'll even go visit Big Bob in the Vatican. What do you think, Bob Fost? Uh, sit down for tea, you know? I mean, like, you know, if the reason I'm not afraid about any of this stuff is because when you see through it, and I'll tell you something, the first time I was outside the Vatican, when I did that exorcism in October 2009, I expected to feel really intimidated, right? And I'm standing there and I shut my eyes and it feels like there's nothing there. It feels like there's nothing there. Like it's a big hologram and it's this big void. And I think, what do I have to be worried about? Right? And when you when you have that awareness, you kind of you're elevated above this fear by which they control us. And I look forward to talking to Italians because I know a lot of them don't like what's going on, but they're they're trapped in the present system, right? And they need some alternatives. And that's what we're trying to create, right? Linda wants to know, "What is P2 in the Vatican?" It was a uh like I said, a secret society involving a lot of cardinals. um this that was kind of part of the secret government system set up to take over if if they needed to pull a coup. Um John Paul the first in his investigation of the Vatican bank uncovered this P2 thing, the P2 lodge and he began to make ask questions about it. He was a funny guy. I mean you talk about honest people in the church like he did things like he didn't want to be carried in on the papal procession, right? He he didn't like they had someone carrying him on on his back. His dad was a poor peasant who always voted leftwing, right? So he had this kind of egalitarian roots, right? And he he first thing he did is not only he ordered the bishops, if you can believe this, he ordered the bishops in Italy to start selling all their expensive jewelry and everything and start giving it away. In other words, he's Whoa, he's reading the Bible too much. He's do what Jesus said to do, right? He lasted 28 days. You know, I mean, so it that's the thing to keep in mind that yeah, there are honest people in any corrupt system, but you can't stay honest if you stay in it. You've either got to collude or you're either thrown out like I was or you're killed. And you know, the beast can't have it any other way. You know, if the Vatican bank was co-created by the CIA, why don't you go after them, too? It was created by Mussolini, actually, in 1929, the fascist dictator. But the latter treaty that created the Vatican and gave it the power of the so-called government didn't end when Mussolini was overthrown in 1943. Remember when he was strung up by his heels in a square somewhere by partisans? That should have ended the Lateran treaty right there. But it carried on because the CIA intervened. The first act of the CIA when it was formed in 1946 was to sabotage the Italian election or was in 1948. I think it was 48 because the the the left, the communists and socialists had been the main force in the resistance in Italy and France and Nazis and the whole right were totally discredited. So was the church. Looked like they're going to win the elections in France and Italy. So the CIA funded the Christian Democrats in both countries and they robbed the election. They stole the election. You know, they told all the uh Italian wives who went to church, all the bishops were saying, "If you vote for the left, you're excommunicated. you'll go to hell. And the US sixth fleet was offshore Italy ready to invade if the Communist Party was elected or left. It was a communist socialist coalition that was going to lawfully take power like in Chile in 1973 when they chopped it up. So the CIA has been very close to the Vatican bank. How do you go after the CIA? You tell me. Yeah, Kennedy tried. Look what happened to him. So TT wants to know how modernized is the Vatican in terms of technology? Are they into AI and stuff like that? All of it. All of it. They got the money. Why wouldn't they be? They got all the money in the world. U a friend of mine, she was a native woman. She was adopted uh and used in Vatican circles. But her adopt stepfather kind of took kindly to her. His name was Cardinal Leger. And he took her on a tour beneath the Vatican library. and she said this was in the n late60s state-of-the-art military protected archives down there that were the length of football fields. I mean really vast areas and if they had that back then of course they've got everything now the it um yeah again we need people on the inside to come forward with confirmation of that. Ash wants to know whether you are are aware of any other secrets hidden under the Vatican. Well, I think I mentioned this in our first interview uh about the this my friend and Cardinal Leger. They were talking and he showed her evidence that the Vatican had sponsored an archaeological excavation uh dig in Cyprus in the late 1950s and they found hard evidence that Jesus had not died and had come and gone with Mary to the south of France. And there's, you know, in the Da Vinci Code in that you saw a reference to that of the the church of Mary Magdalene and those whole legends, but they had hard proof uh of that in not only archaeological but archival stuff they found documentary evidence of his existence. And my friend asked Leger like why don't you share this with the people and she said then the church couldn't exist. I mean if the people knew the truth about Jesus why would they need the church? So, they have to keep the, you know, the lie going. And that's one of the things, but there's other even more a lot more heinous stuff down there. Um, she saw fetuses, she saw body parts, she saw all sorts of weird things, weaponry. Um, it's part of like what we found at, if you remember, I talked about the Anglican Indian school in Canada where we excavated, found bones of children and that that were, you know, identified as that. Um, one of the things we found was a reference to early experiments done, torture threshold, pain threshold experiments on children, uh, sponsored by the military, but to see how well the brain can endure and function under extreme pain, torture. And these were experiments funded before and after World War II. Nazi scientists came to Canada, um, sponsored by the Vatican, operating out of Catholic and Anglican churches. A lot of references to that down there. And there was in the in the dascese in Toronto the Anglican church, but that was all destroyed when we went public with our investigation. It all got well at least removed from public access. U it's probably still intact somewhere. That's the importance of insiders to give us this stuff. Yeah. Tying into that viewers, I just recently interviewed an MK Ultra Survivor. It's a pre-recording that that one will be coming out soon. Um Luke wants to know what of the Lateran Treaty of 1929 why do US presidents recognize the papacy's status as head of state as well as head of the Roman Catholic institution? Very vital question because that's in a way at the heart of a lot of the problem. Lateran treaty like I just talked about the latteran treaty continued unlawfully um because the political in the cold war environment the the west needed the Catholic church as a bull war against the left which is very large in Europe at the time and um also to you know the the permanent arms economy after world war ii kept the world economy going you need to create continual enemies everywhere and uh the Catholic church is great at doing that right Um, so yeah, that's why the lettering treaty was kept. You know, it's an illegal document now, but people still acknowledge it. Um, and I I already answered that thing about the US government um, you know, recognizing this the Vatican as as a head of state or as a state when it isn't. It's a fairy tale, right? You're getting asked whether you thought it was inappropriate of Trump to do the AI picture of him as a pope. I think it's inappropriate. I mean, the guy's a clown, you know, he's a showman. And um I I I don't think I'm not even sure why Catholics were offended by it. Um you know, I I it's just so it's a farce. Why get upset about a farce? D wants to know, is the pope an extension of the head of the Roman Empire? Well, he is the head of the Roman. That's the point. the he it it's it's got a Christian beneer on it but it's in every way ideologically and politically the way it operates it is the Roman Empire. His title uh Ponteffects Maximus was the title of the Roman emperors the great bridge between heaven and earth dasdamus uh man and God. They believe that he's God and a man. It it it's to a Christian it should be blasphemous. And yet what's really weird, Sean, is this belief in Christ can coexist beyond alongside this belief in Antichrist. And no, no wonder it makes people nuts, right? Do you think that these priests were violated as children and that's why they become violators? Well, that's the rhetoric. You know, you can't really blame them because they were harmed as children. Everyone has a choice, you know. I mean, I was harmed as a child in a hospital in Toronto. didn't make me a child rapist. I mean, you can choose which way you want to go, right? But if you're in an institution that says yes, you can harm children and get away with it. In fact, we encourage you to, everyone in the world who's like that knows they can become a Catholic priest and be protected. So, who does that attract, right? Yeah. And you know, look at all the people who are violated as kids and don't go on to commit crimes, right? And these um predators go to places where they can access kids. And there's nothing more trusted by some people than a Catholic priest with the kids. And that's just it's just instant access. Bob wants to know is the new pope a modernist. No, nothing indicates he is. He's he's opposed to the ordination of women. Uh he backs 100% the policy of crimin protecting those who harm children within the church. Um so yeah. No. Yes. Do you believe that we will always have popes? That's from Amy. I I sure hope not. I think I we should do everything possible to disestablish that institution because you don't need it. If you're a Christian, you never he Jesus never talked about popes, bishops, any of that. Go back to the source, read your scripture, and just follow that. You don't need anything any human institution. What is a pope? That's from Chris. I'm really asking even officially what is he? He's the bishop of Rome. Pope is a neural linguistic term designed. It's from Papa Father. He's everybody's father. You see, it's it's more the programming. Um but he's a CEO of the Vatican Incorporated. And here's a lot of other things. But pe people sometimes refer to the pope as Antichrist, but in fact, the reference antichrist refers to Rome. And um in the book of revelation they talk about the beast of the seven heads, seven hills of Rome. The power in Rome systemically is antichrist and any one who sits on the chair the papal chair becomes that and embodies it. Right? You could think of it as a spiritual possession. Right. Very much. Cla Claudia wants to know what happened to Pope John Paul I. Well, we talked about that. They killed him, poisoned them for What about What about the second? Well, he was brought in to cover. Uh Carol Wativia, uh Polish guy, he came in not only to cover for John Paul the first, but America had not recognized the Vatican diplomatically until this guy in 1982. Carol Wativa, the Polish guy, was brought in because do you remember the Solidarity movement in Poland? It was a uh you know the main country leuenca well they were getting massive amounts of CIA money because it's right on the border of the old Soviet Union and they wanted to destabilize Soviet Union maybe provoke a war there get another check of Slovakia where Soviet tanks would go in so the CIA was funding them through the Vatican bank and one of the conditions that Carol Wativa said is we'll do this for you but you have to recognize the Vatican so Ronald Reagan recognizes the Vatican diplomatically goes against the whole American tradition of separation of church and state repudiating the Vatican as a government after 1982 America's in the Vatican camp and that's due to this John Paul II so that's why they canonized him made him a saint because it's saintly to protect the uh finances of the Vatican don't you know what what is the alternative to a pope no pope you don't need a pope you don't need him like you Do your own same people. What do you think the ratio of evil corrupt priests is to non evil? Well, they're all expected to cooperate in the crime. Uh that's the criminal policy. Uh in the the one case in America that went to court involving someone higher than a priest, the William Lynn case in Philadelphia, it was found that over onethird of all priests in the Philadelphia dascese were a act were involved in this network with children and uh you know so the other twothirds are expected to protect the one-third who are doing it. That's true in any corrupt institution. So they're all involved either by co act of commission or omission. You're all part of a criminal conspiracy. The law doesn't doesn't differentiate between a person killing someone and somebody who hid the murder weapon or stood by and watched to let it happen. You're all complicit in a crime, right? And that's the position of any Catholic in the church. You're all complicit as long as you're funding it and participating. Alice wants to know, "Does the Catholic Church need to allow priests to marry as in Orthodox religion? Would that take away this uh violation of kids and and deviency, etc.?" No, because it's a big business uh what what goes on with children, the way they're moved around and used and all of that makes a lot of money. Um you know, so so it's not really about that. Also, don't forget the celibacy thing was brought in in the uh um second latan council in the 16th century in response to the reformation. Uh they in response to Luther exposing all this Vatican corruption and the pope having mistresses. Pope Alexander V 6 uh had something like a hundred mistresses mistresses and all these illegitimate children. They were worried that those children were going to all demand a chunk of Vatican money, right? They all expect to inherit. So practically and to make it look like they're doing a spiritual faceelift. Oh, the priests are all saintly now. They're all celibate. They brought in the celibate thing politically in response to the reformation. And so it's always been another just a gesture. People know priests aren't celibate. Um, every priest I've ever known is not being celibate. They've had mistresses over the side. It's just this game you play for the people in the pews, right, Pam? Everything that is corrupt in the world is linked. So it seems that there will never be any improvement. So children will continue to be violated and transported. Do you think this will ever stop? Probably not. But it doesn't mean we have to go along with it. And um the less people or more people who don't go along with it, the less likely it's going to be to happen. So it starts with each individual making that choice and expecting the storm that follows. But that's why you got to link up in a movement with the rest of us because we protect each other and make each other strong when we confront these evils. Right. Question from Ray. Reassessment of previous question. Isn't the pope president of the Vatican? Is a demotion not a prime minister? No. The they don't use terms and prime minister. Um okay. In dethroning here I actually have a quote from the card college of cardinals. quote, "The papacy is an absolute monarchy in which the head of state is the pope who holds full legislative, executive, and judicial power." In other words, it's it's kind of like being a pharaoh in ancient Egypt or a Roman emperor, absolute monarch, right? And um let's see. So, are you saying that Francis cleared up the priests who violated children? I have been a Catholic all my life. What you're saying is making me sick. That's Lorraine. Cleared up the priests as in protected them. He's supposed to. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. He's supposed to protect priests who assault children because that's their policy. And if he doesn't, they're all implicated. It's like what I found in the Indian schools in Canada. I talked to people who worked in these death camps where children were routinely killed. and they the the honest people said well if we talked about it would go to jail. It was an understanding that from the government and the church that you cannot report this stuff otherwise you're implicating yourself as well in the system. So there's a law of silence everybody operates by and if if they don't they're crushed and you never hear about them again. Right. Francis of Aisi on his deathbed prophesied an uncannonically elected pope who would be called the destroyer. Is that Francis? I think that's church propaganda because there's very little record actually of Francis of a CC and most of it comes through the church. So you got to always ask where is it source? Where's it coming from? Right? Um the problem with the Franciscans is they quickly became incorporated. Francis before he died said the first rule of the Franciscans was no priest was ever to handle money. Okay? The church was to remain poor. The the Franciscan order was to remain poor. Within a century, you got a Franciscan pope conducting holy quote holy wars and things like the guy in u the third largest death camp in Europe in the 1940s was the Yanovich death camp in Croatia run directly out of the Vatican by a Franciscan bishop Ivan Serich. So that's where Franciscans end up you know I mean corrupted by the the church. So you got to always question these church kind of descriptions of Frank and Visi. AE wants to know the names of all your books. Okay. Well, my books you can see on Amazon. You can go to murderby decree.com and go down the list. You'll see a lot of them listed. This is the one we're talking about, dethroning a rogue power. Um and it was actually addressed to sympathetic people in the UN who are actually trying to move on it, trying to bring motions forward to have the Vatican expelled. And um also just write to me angel fire101 at protonmail.com. I can get you the books depending on where you live. I I lecture and travel all over North America and Europe and will be again in in the fall. Claudia, have any clergy been shut down for trying to expose the violators? You better believe it, and I know a lot of them. Uh, when I got thrown out of the United Church, I was part of a group called the Ministers Mutual Aid. And do you know that about onethird of all clergy, and we're talking Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, whoever, about a third of us get forced out of the church through unlawful means or unfair labor practices. So, just fired on the spot. you know, the old guard don't like what your your sermon was, you get canned, you know, and blacklisted. This there's a lot of clergy out there, men and women, who are put through hell, but they, you know, they don't want to make controversy that there this whole clergy attitude that, well, we don't want to divide and upset people. You know, we we need a 12step group for exchurch people. And there's a lot of them out there. and and I can work, you know, I I work with these folks and um I'd be happy to put you in touch with them or if you know of anyone who needs that kind of help, just write me. Yeah, that that would be great. Um let me see. Let's see. We're getting getting towards the final questions now. We're we have to end this at the hour. Um Kevin's almost been on for two hours right now, so get get your final questions in, folks. Um, does the violation of the kids fracture the mind and cause multiple personalities and disassociative disorder? Absolutely. That's one of the chief characteristics when you're violated. Uh, now it varies a lot. It doesn't hit everybody that way, but I learned in in working with the Indian residential school death camp survivors, this was a big topic because a lot of them suffered from it. And uh what we found was the reason that children when they're brought into these camps, they were deliberately raped. Any child who arrived on the truck was instantly raped. They were taken in, beaten, and raped. Now, violated. Let's say let's say violated. Okay. It's okay. Okay. I I'll repeat that. Children who were brought in and were systematically violated. That was for a reason. And we found this late later through government and and military files that were shared with us in the course of our first tribunal. It was done deliberately because when you violate somebody that way, they the human mind dissociates. You create multiple personalities to survive. And that's why a killer multiple personality killer is often found not guilty because you need intent to commit a crime. And they lack the intent because the other other persona was doing it. Well, MK Ultra needed people, little ch children who were already programmed to have multiple personalities because when you're creating like a sleeper agent or a sleeper assassin, that's what you need. You need MPD people. So, these were factories producing MPD personalities. That's why our campaign and me and I have been so attacked because we're uncovering stuff that's still being used and is being perfected in the era of COVID, right? So trace the source of things and you'll find out what's going on now. Right. Is the Vatican Bank underwriting bricks new currency? Yep. That's they're one of the main funders of it. I think the main funer M13. Will the Nature Druids win over the sadistic church? I hope so because I'm descended from them. On my mom's side, we were O'Neal's from Northern Ireland. We were the last of the Druid kings. And it was funny when I did that um when I did that thing in Rome with the exorcism. The next morning that tornado hits the first one in 48 years. And I'm thinking my my partner Carol said um well you know your ancestors are druids and they could control weather camp. Maybe they were plugging your ancestors were kind of plugging into what you were doing there. I don't know. But it's that the druids have gotten a bad shaft from the church. you know, they sacrificed children and all that because they were the spiritual opposition when the church of Rome was taking over that whole in Britain and Ireland and that. So, uh, you know, it the the Romans went in and destroyed all the druid encampment and angles I think was they just massacred every druid they could find because they were earth-based, nature-based, you know, natural law, the opposition to papacy, right? If all good Catholics leave, then they would have less power, right? Who would have less power? The church. Yeah. The good the good ones. Is does it mean that it would become more evil? The church would become even more evil if all the good ones left. Well, they're not sustained by their members. That's the thing about you could have five Catholics in the world and would continue because they're not essentially membership driven. They're driven by money and power. and they would maintain the facade. They need to maintain the facade. So, um, no, if you leave you you mean you if a lot of pe good people leave, you're saving the lives of children because, you know, you won't have that participation and it'll be seen for what it is, not a church, but a criminal money sucking power. Just need to give a disclaimer before I give you this question. And I'll say that sarcasm is the height of an intellectual because this is from my partner, mother of baby Ziggy. Heaven, would you please bring some holy water from your trip to Italy for Sean? He needs it. Oh, that's really cute. Um, well, all water is holy. All water is holy. It's not blessed or made that way. So, but I'll come and we can do I'll do a water fight with him if you want when I come. Get the pistols out. Does Islam come from Catholicism? Well, if you read the Torah, um, which came before the Bible and came before the, um, Quran, it's it's they both seem to plagiarize the Torah, don't they? Yeah. Well, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, it's a really common faith. It comes from that same part of the world. God is a conqueror. Um, women are subordinate. Um, it's this. So, it's the same source, I think. So, where who affected who? I think they all affected each other kind of in a nutshell, right? Yeah. It's interesting because there's a lot of the same characters in all three books and there's been so many wars over definitions and how stories are written. It's it's it's crazy. Um, why are there no female popes? Well, we talked about this. There was once, but she was murdered. Um, Pope Joan, the legend is that she was an English cardinal who hid herself. She was very smart and impressed people. I think around the 9th century and she hid her sexuality on a papal procession in Rome. She got pregnant and on a papal procession in Rome, she gave birth to the child. And when they found out, they thought it was a miracle at first, right? But then when they found out she was a woman, they killed her on the spot, her and the baby. And in Rome, you might want to look. There's supposed to be a monument there still to her, but um there's never been one because they believe women are evil and Descendant of Eve and only man God has testicles, right? Isn't that obvious? Um Angela's inviting you to New Zealand to promote what you do. They would love this. I'd love to come. Um, but you'd have to help find the money to get me there because I am on a blacklist and I don't have a lot of travel funds. Um, but I would love to come. In fact, I've been invited to come to New Zealand on Australia a number of times because of the severity of what happened to indigenous people there and also the role of the papacy in that. I'll answer this next one. You're getting asked what what was the longest ever conclave and I've looked it up on Google and it is the 19 the 1268-71 papal election. Um 126871 following the death of Pope Clement the IV um was the longest papal election in history. There we go. That'd be interesting to look into. Yeah. Um let me see. I think we're almost. Is it true in your opinion that only the red bits in the Bible are legit and the rest has been doctorred to trick us? Um well what I know about that is that there was this thing called in Chicago they brought together 100 seminarians in what's called the uh the Jesus project and they looked they did a study the New Testament and figured out what was more likely to have been actual sayings of Jesus and what were things attributed later like the birth narrative Jesus being born in Bethlehem that the church put that in in order to show he was a descendant of David. I mean, but there were a few simple sayings and they said the simpler the saying, the more likely it would be to be passed word of mouth passed on to people. Something like the kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed within you. Right? that saying likely came from Jesus and they they actually I use this in sermons and it was really great because um the redlettered areas of the Bible uh were more likely to come from Jesus and then black and gray indicated no they were created and and attributed to him later by the church only about 12% of what's in the New Testament was attributed directly to Jesus. So it's more likely that only around 10% of his actual words in the Bible came from the historical guy Yeshua ben Ysef, right? Uh Jesus being the Greek word for him. So uh when they have red bets on the Bible, I think it's not only that but also to emphasize what the editors thought were the most important parts of the Bible. But I know that academic, you know, scholarly consensus seems to be that the shorter the saints from Jesus, the more likely it was that it was actually said by him. Do you know anything about the girl who was kidnapped, the father suddenly given a a good job in the bat and subsequently had a brother? I'm trying to remember that case. I remember it and I'll have to look that up. I can't give a good answer to that right now. But it was connected to a guy who started wasn't he um an employee of the Vatican who started talking about Ratzinger and then suddenly all these things he got arrested and put in a Vatican prison. You see they have their own prisons. They can lock up church dissident and the law can't touch them. Um this guy was in a Vatican prison and then his child died and all that. So yeah, it was to shut him up. Is the Pope going to tell us what happened to Emanuel's Orlandi? I think is that the guy we're referring to? I'm not sure. Otherwise, um I'm not sure who Orlando is. Do you know anything about Pope Peter and the upside down cross? There are upside down crosses in the Vatican. That's part of the myth. Peter was never a pope. Um you know, that comes from the whole basis of the church claiming, you know, that they have authority is that Jesus said, "I'm going to build my church on Peter." when he, you know, he wasn't talking about establishing a church. That was just editorialized later. Right. We're almost at the hour, folks. And um Oh, here we go. Do you know anything about Melbourne being built on lay lines and used for satanic rituals? Melbourne. Um we've done a lot of work on Melbourne, a whole thing. Um Toast Spinhos who was in the ninth circle was taken to Melbourne as a child. She was taken into um not only hospitals but military facilities and was used experimentally. She saw children in cages there being having weapons tested on them, chemical weaponry and that we've done a lot on Melbourne. I can't go into great detail here but write to me I can send you stuff and if and when I come to Australia it definitely is place to hit and uh one of our people Georgina Cameron who was investigating that got killed and uh we know who did it and people in the church responsible. So yeah, please write to me. Kevin is on his agame, Sophia. He's been absolutely on fire tonight. Um, obviously know that this Pope story is one of the biggest stories in the world right now and he's extremely busy. He's been very generous spending two hours with us. And thank you everyone for keeping your questions on point. This has been absolutely fascinating. Is there anything you'd like to say in conclusion, Kevin? lots but uh I would like to soon come back and talk about getting more on the ground about what we've documented about what goes on in these networks uh especially in the west coast which I think we should focus on in terms the present fellow in office um Leo the 14th because that's going to open up a lot more including the panacific uh Chinese network behind a lot of these crimes and the role of China and also to talk about my upcoming trip to Europe And I really want to urge people to book me into places in Europe. And also I'll be in Canada, America, and then over to Europe uh for when university's open in September. So let's try to arrange a speaking tour and we can meet a lot of you folks in in person and carry on this work. Come and spend the night at our house if you want, Kevin. Hey, I'll do it if they let me into England, but they deported me in 2011, so we'll see. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Viewers, put a one in the chat if you'd like Kevin to come back soon. put a two in the chat if you want him to bog off. I know it's all going to be ones. And um all of Kevin's links, as I've said, are in the description box, his books, uh you can reach out to him, you can listen to his other broadcasts, see all the ones piling in. Um and and yet again, thank you so much, my friend, coming on for such short notice, and we hope to see you soon. It's 99.9% want you to come back. All right. Thank you, brother. Thank you, everyone. Carry it on. Take care, Kevin. Cheers. Good night. Bye. Cheers. Bye. All right, folks. What a phenomenal guest. Absolutely fascinating. And um good timing, isn't it, with um all of the black smoke and the pope. Um the new pope. All right. So, tomorrow night, Professor Hamamoto on Diddy Virginia. Um, Weinstein, we possibly have Chris Todd on Macan. Um, we've not heard from Epstein's niece Ana Wick this week, so that's pending. And, um, but it's going to be another blockbuster night tomorrow night. Uh, Juliet Brian podcast edits are almost finished on the pre-recorder, Epstein Survivor. So, that will be coming soon. And we've also got Anna Lee, our MK Ultra Survivor, going through the edits now. That podcast will be coming soon. And everyone seems to be really enjoying the David Ike upload we did today, the band content. We we carefully uh removed lots of words from it. So, it's within the community guidelines. If you missed that one, check it out. And before that one this morning, we interviewed a survivor of Christian Bnner. you know, the suspect in the Meline McCann case. We were all in tears. She told the story so well. She just woke up in her hotel room in Portugal and there's a man saying her name stood there dressed in black and it just gets more and more horrific from there. So, if you missed that one, it's almost two hours long. I would urge people to find that one that we did earlier today. Um she was alive, absolutely brave warrior spirit and um you know it affected me all day after speaking to her but her energy and her her smile were radiant and it was it was good to see after everything she went through. So thank you for supporting all of our guests. Uh we have an eclectic range of them with varied viewpoints that we may not all agree with everything they say, but our job is just to bring them to you guys so you can become informed, learn more like we learn more speaking to these people and form your own decisions and conclusions. So, we'll see some of you