I I had to struggle with it um but what eventually happened was people started my family took it very interestingly I have a brother and a sister who were like yeah John you said it we believe it right I have other brothers and sisters who are like you're crazy we're Catholic and that doesn't work and and I I respect them and love them you know because spirituality is a personal Journey [Music] I'd like to welcome to the show John Davis how you doing John I am doing great thank you Alex for having me on the show uh I'm excited to talk to you my friend you've you have a very interesting story I haven't had Someone Like You on the show before we've had people who remember past lives and pre-birth memories and things like that um and you know the man behind you that's sitting looking at us behind you Mr uh senior Jesus uh he he uh he's made many appearances on the show in near-death experiences I always say as a running joke he's the hardest working man on the other side because he is everywhere all the time absolutely absolutely so uh I'm really I'm really curious about your journey so my first question to you sir is how did you begin your spiritual journey before like what was your life like before the stuff that we're going to talk about right well I was raised in a very nice Catholic Family seven kids in total so obviously obviously right right um my mom had her master's degree in liturgy and it was head of liturgical Doctrine at our church and she was very much a very Catholic person but she was also a very spiritual person so she was living the love she was actually going out and doing charitable things in secret not telling people we found all this out after her death um but as as time went on and and I turned 18 my mom actually came to me and she says John spirituality is a personal Journey and go find out what you what you what you believe and I was like great I don't have to go to church anymore so I I went off and I studied Atheism in Buddhism I really just just started kind of trickled and played with things and I really I I came to a realization that I just I just I believe that there was a God but more like I was agnostic than anything else I believe there was something I just wasn't great enough to say but I knew what it was and then um do you want me to go into what happened next sure please tell me what happened next so I I was a Renaissance Festival Entertainer I did a comedy show called hack and slash we did sword fights all over the world including the front lines of both Iraq and Afghanistan and six Uso tours and we were we were at an event in Canada um and I was at a party at a friend's house and sitting there in this party I'm just kind of sitting back in the back of the room and this woman keeps staring at me this is kind of weird because I knew that there was her husband right next to it I was like this is just kind of weird and suddenly she gets up she walks across the room she says you know you walked with Jesus right and I was like yeah yeah whatever you know I didn't sit with my Catholic upbringing right I didn't totally was like okay whatever and um kind of kind of blew it off and then about two three weeks later I was at the Maryland Renaissance festival and this RV pulls in as she gets out of it she's there with her with her husband band to do the show so now this this person who just said this read across from me and I'm getting a little curious I said so I pulled her over said why don't you tell me what's going on and she said well let me give you a reading and I found out she was a psychic and I wasn't really even into psychics at the time and she gives me this reading that basically starts talking about the fact that I walked with Jesus in a past life and I was like okay um but the weird part was on an odd level it just kind of felt like it was true and I and that freaked me out I was like how could how can I think that how can I feel that and um so I set up another another reading with her and on the third reading in the middle of the reading she goes full trance Channel and she says John of old John of new I love you I've always loved you I will always love you I'm with you I've always been with you I always will be with you and that freaked me out and I ran away I literally like literally well and really literally what happened was I just kind of avoided her for the next several weeks and I was like man this this is insane you know how could I how this is just wrong you know because my Catholic upbringing he was telling me was wrong and I was sitting up on on the festival site with another friend of mine who I'd known for years and in the middle of the conversation she stops what she's saying she says you know you were John the Beloved right and I was like you know this is somebody else entirely different somebody knew and I was like oh man this is so bizarre so then my friend who I was talking to had owned um did a jewelry and she was at a holistic Fair selling her jewelry and I went to go visit her at the show and I was I was walking along the line where all the readers were and this woman stops one of her readings runs out in the aisle grabs me by the arm and tells me that I was John the Beloved now I'm getting really freaked out because it's like I've got like like three of them now have told me right and then it just started happening like this like spontaneously it ended up being a total of 19 of them that would walk out of the blue just telling me this and it got to the point where I was very much I'm a science-minded individual I wanted I want proof and I don't want psychics telling me that's how I was at the time and I was very much in a space where where I went proof but I'm I think I'm current going crazy I really thought I was going crazy and I said God Just Give Me A Sign just give me some sign that I should pursue this and I had bought a book called Edgar Casey on the Millennium little paperback book and I'm like yeah then whatever I'm just gonna see what he's going to say about the Millennium and I open it up to page 32 and right in the middle of the page it says John the Beloved will again be named John and I'm like so I instantly started to search for a um a psychotherapist who did past life regressions and I didn't want just someone who had had a class online or you know or someone who had read a book and was going to do regression I wanted a a real you know psychotherapist a hypnotherapist who could really do do it justice and I found a lady in in Virginia and they ended up going and I went the week before and she led me through a meditation so I could get used to her voice and for a week I had to go home and meditate with her tape and then the um following week I came back when I came back she sat me down I was laying there and she she led me into this Fitness session hypnotherapy session and she's she's she you know lifts you up and then she lowers you down in in the hypnosis and then I open my eyes and I had this huge visceral experience it was it was as if I was standing on this Shoreline and it was like Sandy and Rocky all at the same time and I could feel the wind I could smell the air um and there was just people Milling about and I I was like oh wow and I looked I looked down and my legs were bare and I was like aha not an apostle because they always wore robes right this is how how little I thought at the time I later discovered doing my research because I'm very much about researching things that what I was actually wearing was known as a fisher's coat it was it was literally what they would wear when they went fishing onto the Sea of Galilee because if they wore robes and fell over they were going to drown and having the bear arms and the bare legs it was like a Galilee and one-piece bathing suit and so I'm sitting here I'm having this whole experience and she says what's the next most important moment and it shifted to people running down the beach in front of me and I'm looking at these people running down the beach and I'm I'm like there's people running on a turn I look and there's a crowd further down the beach and as I'm looking further down the beach I'm like as I say to her there's a crowd she says you want to see what that is I said yeah so I ended up walking over to this ground and there's a crowd there and I pushed my way into the crowd and come to the center of the crowd as they get closer to the center of the crowd I start to feel this feeling of just pure unconditional love and I open into the crowd and I see him this guy right see him standing this is actually a painting I did from this regression um and I I could feel them I could feel his presence you hear me in the regression say oh my oh my God I can feel him and I started panting him and like it was overwhelming the feeling and he looked at me as if he knew me he smiled he walked over he raised his hand up he placed it on my chest and I had in my regression I had basically what most people might think of as a near-death experience I left the illusion of here and I ended up in this Pure White expanse and knowing full well that there was distance but you couldn't see walls you couldn't see distance you just knew you were in an expanse of white and I felt like I was completely one with everything and everyone all at once and the regressionist is confused she's like are you with him or are you him and I say I'm within him and I said it's all love it's all love and and she left me in that state and she actually kept trying to get me to come out of it and she's like you stay as long as you need I ended up staying in there about seven or eight minutes which by the way if you ever heard my regression I I trimmed that section off because you hear me moaning for about seven minutes and it's just yeah you could take that and do bad things to me train editing um but then she says White's most important moment and the next most important moment was me feeling and experiencing all my fears and my anxieties and had a complete realization that to come to the physical world to feel feel that separation from that love is is a is a part of knowing and experiencing that love because if we never had the Baseline of our fears and anxieties we would never know love fully we would never know godfully unless we were here to experience this this Baseline and then very clearly let me understand the line though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I shall fear no evil because we drop down into this physical experience the valley and we're walking through the shadow of death we're in a place where death is a possibility of the body but we ourselves are not of the body we are of something greater and so we come down into this into this Valley to experience this separation so that we can come to know God more fully and in a regression one of the things that they do is they take the person to the end of the life and when they do that specifically so that they they have an experience a physical experience that the an emotional experience so they can go oh I I this is real and when when she led me to the to the end of the life she she the one thing she did not realize is that in John of old's life and I say John of old specifically because I'm John of new not John of old I don't necessarily understand what reincarnation is I'm not vain enough to put a label on it you know I'm not sure if I'm the only one who has this information or these memories could be thousands of could be all of us able to tap into this but it doesn't matter who you were it only matters who you are in the Here and Now she says what's next most important moment again how would you feel about seeing his death but to John her saying that was the death of Jesuit and Joseph is what I called him and ice went to the crucifixion and in my regression you hear me screaming and and overwhelmed because I'm looking up at him and he's just you know a pulp of a man bloodied and beaten and and um once again I I took my my history and I started writing down details and there's a lot of details in that pretty gruesome but later on I discovered that we're pretty accurate like for instance um you know the only the only evidence they have of a Roman crucifixion is a nail through the ankle bone sideways and I had in my memory I had his feet were on the sides of the cross with nails going through the ankle bones into the side of the Cross there wasn't the little platform that you put your feet on like they always show on the cross and the others the other nails were here not here like you always see um it was like they put they're putting the nails through the bones so that it would would stay basically so I was I was coming back with these little tidbits of information that I could research which was great um but after that I I went on and I started having all kinds of very interesting experiences just in the idea of taking what I had learned and this understanding of of we're here to experience our fears and anxieties and realizing that you know what we think and how we how we process our experience is being created around us and that you know that that's my biggest takeaway of the whole thing is being very present in your present moment and then and realizing that your thoughts are creative and your relationship to fear and love is is how you create your world I hope that there's nothing that's an amazing uh recollection or an amazing story in general of what you went through so okay so you have this new information uh that you walked with Joshua and uh you because you decide it's one thing to know this information it's another thing to make it public so you know you had a you know you were doing things and how did the people around you your family your mother your your your your colleagues your friends you know because this as I always say on the show because a lot of times people who come on the show have a spiritual awakening or our channels or our psychics or mediums or I had a near-death experience they generally clear the room when you say that you had any of these things that happened to you it clears the room how did you deal with it psychologically and how what was it like it would for a long time I didn't want to talk about it because I didn't want to be the guy who thought he was Napoleon you know you know yeah because in past lives it's always someone like I always tell Alexander the Great obviously right yeah of course I wasn't Bob the guy who picked up the dung after the donkey it wasn't that guy I was you know it's so it's and I didn't want to be that that guy who thought he was some famous character from history sure um and so I was like this this is you know I I had to struggle with it um but what eventually happened was people started my family took it very interestingly I I have a brother and a sister who were like yeah John you said it we believe it right I have other brothers and sisters who are like you're crazy we're Catholic and that doesn't work and and you know I I respect them and love them you know because spirituality is a personal journey and reach finding our own way in the Bible it says in my father's house there are many mansions I believe you can find love in any of any religion in the world but it's a matter of are you finding love or are you finding judgment and if you're finding judgment and fear and anxiety and having to be right so you're not really being inclusive now let's talk about my mom because my mom right back here her picture over here my mom master's degree in liturgy amazing individual put me on my spiritual path early I go and tell her completely open to it completely open to it but she didn't she didn't necessarily share to me that how completely open she was to it and how a little bit nervous she was about it and she went to her Catholic priest who was straight from Ireland hair parted down the middle right hey straight from Ireland to us and she says father I'm really concerned my son thinks he's an apostle reincarnated and the priest went like this don't discount it it might be true right they're not watching this he turned around and looked behind both shoulders before he said it's not it could be true which is always fascinating you know what's always interesting and I found this out from multiple people I've spoken to is what they portray in public is very different than what they portray in private like I was talking to a Quantum physicist the other day and I go listen they all have to have a sense of of respectability within their Community if they actually said what they believed they would be ostracized but when they're at a dinner party with confident with friends or in their own homes or like just having a drink with a friend the things that come out of their mouth is very different than what they preach about in their classroom so it's interesting and that's in all segments of society because correct 20 years ago I came out with this story there was a book written about me called John of old John of new by the first psychic who wrote who who read me and that's actually her book her book is still on Amazon now I get nothing from it so I'm not trying to sell a book right um it's hers right but um but I was speaking all over the country I was speaking at the association for research Enlightenment Unity churches metaphysical centers and I I was getting all over all over the place Cup in Canada doing stuff and I realized that no one was everyone was too invested in who I was and not what I'm actually talking about and so I decided I'm going to take this information and I'm going to put a different vocabulary around it and I'm going to stop preaching to the choir and I'm going to start going to find people who need to be put on a path so I became a corporate motivational speaker and what I found really interesting is I would go into the speeches and I would do these these really cool speeches and I'll just give you an example at the end of my speech I would pick the most timid person I could find in my audience I would bring them in onto the stage in front of everybody and just by managing Their Fear and adjusting their timeline to the present they would learn to crack a whip and hit targets out of my hand in five minutes right literally and it's just but it's just a matter of managing right but what I would find out is at the end of the speech I'd be standing there and people come up yeah thank you so much that was great and there'd always be a group that would stand off to the side and once everybody else had cleared away they'd come over and they'd lean in they go I know what you're talking about all right they want to say in the corporate environment right um but yeah that it it we we sometimes hide our spirituality for the sake of being afraid of being different and in reality that that fear of being different is the fear of not being loved so it comes down to the base of a basis element of we're afraid of not being loved in some form and that's why we're here is to experience that fear of not being loved or the feeling that separation but you know that's what we must overcome the Buddha said the secret to Enlightenment is the eradication of fear and in Sufism they believe that God is on one side of a veil and we're on the other side of the veil and our life is the struggle against the veil and the veil is our fear so it really comes down to dealing with dealing with our fears in life fear is the biggest motivator everything it revolves around the fear of the fear fear anger is fear rage is fear um flashing all of it is about our fears in one way shape or form and even the fear where they say that the fear of the number one fear is uh not death but speaking in public right it is because you are afraid of being ostracized from the group it's exactly right but if you think about what fear is I wonder if you break it down scientifically fear is an emotional reaction to a future event that may or may not happen with you focused on a negative outcome absolutely absolutely so but so fear depends on the negative outcome depends on you believing in a negative outcome and so I I call it negatively focused uncertainty that's what fear is and when you when you shift your focus from from negative to positive you you create a whole different experience so so to give you an example I talk about being very present most people in the world sit in their present moment and they hash over all of the fearful things that have happened in their life yep and and they decide this is the way the world is so right here in this moment the world is this way so I am creating more of that because that's what I'm focused on that's where my belief is my faith is there Bible says whatever you ask in God's name is granted if you have faith Moses said God's name is I am yes so I am a victim of that a product of that of the a horrible person because of that and even Amazing Grace says I'm a wretch right all that says all that stuff right right so they sit here in this moment they declare those things I am this and God gives them that because that's what they want the people who who step into the next level of their soul to tie it into your name here right are the people who go okay here's where here's where I am from the product of my belief but now I am doing this and they start to start to negate the subconscious beliefs that are behind them and I start to be very conscious about keeping their focus on a positive outcome see most people most people think they're they're going through time on a linear fashion but we don't go through time goes through us we are never ever not in the present moment right the passage is a collection of present moment Memories the future is just a place where we set goals for our next present moment but we never get to the Future when we finally experience that thing it's going to be in the Here and Now and so the future is coming to us and it becomes more and more in Focus as it gets to us and so here in this moment if we keep our focus on a positive I am joyfully receiving at perfect health and you keep in that in that place what you're doing is you're bringing that reality into focus and so then you experience it in your present moment and then it goes drops into your past subconscious belief in the Bible it says be born again I mean that's that's not because that's not what Jehovah's Witness say it's what it is is set down your past start creating something new bring something new into your experience you know I have been very fortunate in my life to to watch people believe themselves out of wheelchairs and and you go to look at the testimonials on my private readings page there's a testimony on there of a lady who had a tumor and she started getting very present and started putting the positive affirmations in the well affirmations there's a topic there too but um but um positive intention or positive belief positive faith and her tumor shrank and it really comes down to each one of us is divine you know in the Bible Joshua says Greater Works than I have done you will do ye are Gods it is your faith that heals you he was he wasn't putting himself on a pedestal he was showing us the potential that we have and the idea and the the idea that we are one with God and we and God is a co-creator you know we are we are the inspiration and the and the outcome and God is the paintbrush the paints in the canvas all of the tools that we need here to beautifully said my friend beautifully said so with so I'm going to dig in a little bit because uh I don't get to speak often with someone who walked with Joshua uh as a general statement so I have a couple questions I've always wanted to know and I've heard I've done some study you know I've done research in spiritual texts and things but the biggest question I always had because I am also a recovering Catholic uh so uh I I um and I feel guilty about it but uh oh you you know you know what's funny about that Alex is uh this summer my book my first book is coming out and it's called the recovering Catholics guide to spirituality amen amen amen I can't wait for that book that's going to be amazing um but the thing that always fascinated me among many things about what the church taught was that Jesus was born yada yada yada showed up at 30. like the yada yada yada is the problem I've always had since I was a kid you know if I could go back to Seinfeld the yada yada yada yeah so what so I've read you know from the from the Hindu text and the yogic philosophies that that Jesus was a yogi you know you heard of Sri Etha right exactly so can you explain to people what happened in it as much as you can of the time between he when he was born and then when he became when he showed up as essentially a master sure so let me let me kind of tie some things in first so the whole story of the Virgin birth um you have to remember that Matthew Mark and Luke the books books of Matthew Mark and Luke theologians and Bible scholars believe they are written from One Source they don't believe they're written by the individuals um and all the Bible that we know of today is is a conglomeration and an edit from a lot of books and at the Nicene Council it became the codified Bible um when you look at virgin births you know everybody Jesus was the Virgin birth it was miraculous right Plato was a virgin birth Horus in Egypt was a virgin birth and all the other virgin most of the other virgin births you find in history are all Roman on Pagan mythology um so jesha being born who I remember him as as a man as not a not a deity you know acquires didn't sing when he entered the room that's you know he he was a dude he was a dude and he was the coolest dude ever right and when I met him in that past life and I say I when John of old met him um it was it was when he had come back but I had a full understanding that he had just come back from somewhere far away so okay so let me just clarify because come back it could be from the dead I have to be very clear about this it just throwing that out there it's like that's funny dad didn't come back from the dead no he went on a journey and came back yeah he was coming he was coming back from the the the east and um a lot of a lot of the teachings that he taught don't tie into Judaism and definitely don't tie into Christianity because he didn't believe in a messiah he didn't believe in a savior one of the real real memories that I have is avoiding the essenes because they wanted him to not only take the role of Messiah but they wanted to take the role of King and they wanted him to actually raise an army and fight Rome and he wouldn't do it and so we avoided the essene encampment because it was like you know I they didn't want me to do something I'm not going to do um but yeah I totally believe he was an idiot though my memories I I wasn't with him so I don't have those the memory of him being there I totally believe it because that was just what we understood it to be now um when you go to India which is was a fascinating Journey when I traveled through India you you can learn all about SRI Issa and you can they can tell you where he was and all the things that he did and uh when you ask them what happened to him they say he went back to his country and he was crucified and there's another uh fought in in India when you're there that after the resurrection he came back with with his wife and had children and lived out the rest of his life there and there are sects of Hinduism that believe that I personally hope that's true because I would have liked the man to have a happy ending right right in his life right right so the next question that I always get and I'm going to tie it into this your question is did he resurrect did he resurrect I have a com I have memories of him on the cross I have memories of carrying his physical body to a tune which I can tell you an interesting psychometry story about going to the Garden Tomb in Israel and getting nauseous and crying and weeping and wailing and not even knowing I was going to the place when when we went but um I have a distinct memory I remember I said it the the second reading the the the psychic did a full body trans channel right she actually at one point in that channeling stage she says do you see me and I was like no this is close your eyes and see and I close my eyes and when I closed my eyes it was like my eyes opened in the past and I was I was like looking down at the ground and I could see my hands in front of me and I could see like sand falling off my face and I looked up a little further and standing here where these feet and I looked up and it was Joshua looking down laughing at me and I knew the reason I was on my face was because the last time I saw him I pulled him in a tomb and and so people said well how can that be well when you when you study in India and you study the the Hindus there there's numerous stories of gurus who would come to a raging River and and project their consciences to the other side manifest their body around and continue on that's that's basically resurrecting the body in another another segment of this belief and so to me it makes perfect sense that he could have done that if he had gone and studied with the gurus in in India and so you know I have a statue of Joshua meditating in my office um they're they're rare but they are available yeah um because I do truly believe after doing so much research in in the in the Hindu text in the Indian uh and yogic philosophies that that Jesus was a yogi in many ways he learned those ideas because again the ideas that he was talking about were ideas that were not like you said not in the Jewish tradition not in the Roman tradition absolutely they just weren't they were so far beyond those things the concept of you are God you know God is within you uh you could do everything I can do and more that's heresy yeah absolutely it's heresy but let's see but let me let me share an interesting fact I had this experience and I came I got very public with it I was out there with it and I've never had a Buddhist say anything negative to me I've never had a Hindu say anything never negative to me I've never read a Muslim say anything negative to me never had a Wicca or a Baha'i standing negative I have been called a false prophet and Satan reborn and I have been told that I am doing the devil's work at all by Christians right yeah but the thing about what the word Christian means Christ means anointed one which means it's he has to be a messiah and at the Nicene councils when he became the son of God prior to the Nicene Council in 325 he was either a teacher a prophet or a fraud depending on your point of view right and they made a decision at the Nicene Council that he was the son of God and once that happened all other religions were wrong and then you get the Crusades and the Inquisition and because that's what because that's what Jesus would want right exactly I mean I always another thing as a young young Catholic boy so Jesus loved everything God's within you he you either believe in Jesus or die like that doesn't seem very Christian well I think about it think about that it just didn't make any sense The Book of John a book that I love by the way but it says says God is love and no and no fear can exist in pure love but the Old Testament says God sent two bears to kill 42 children because they made fun of a bald man well there's that it's like when you look at the interesting part about the Bible to me is the text that that became the Bible were written by judaic sex who had their own agenda they wanted a Messianic fulfillment of judaic law and so the original texts were not even in alignment with Jesus teachings and then you have you know everybody always talks I always hear people talk about the Aramaic gospel most people don't realize there is no Aramaic gospel the Aramaic hospitals that they talk it talk about is the pashita and the pashita is a translation into Aramaic from Greek so it's not even real there is no real Aramaic gospel um and then when you look at the the next iterations you know they started translating it and you know we live in in 2023 right now you know the year is wrong because well they they know it's wrong because you look at the Bible jeshire was born in in the reign of I forget which which emperor it was he died about six or eight years before the Ascension date or the the ad date right so we know that he couldn't have been born in 2023 years ago so even our years when when did that happen historically that happened in the Middle Ages but even our concept of of hell and and brimstone and fire and all that is a reflection of Dante's Inferno which is a Middle Ages tax because the word gehenna which is the word that was translated into hell was actually a trash dump where you burned your trash on the outskirts of Jerusalem and all the bad stuff was burned in gehenna and so so even fascinating I'm sorry go ahead no no no no but the thing is it's so fascinating is that I've had multiple people I've had a lot of near-death experiences on the show yeah yeah yeah yeah uh and uh and channels and Mystics and all of this stuff and one common denominator is that there is no hell right and the biggest stuff that I get on comments is when we dare to say that there is no help because then we are doing the devil's work and obviously I'm a demon and so on and so forth we all are um and it's it's fascinating because again as a child I didn't understand when they told me about hell I was terrified I was in first grade absolutely first grade they said you're going to hell if you don't do this this and this I'm like the amount of stress a first grader gets right because of this you're like oh my God I'm like what are we gonna do so it doesn't make sense and now that you know as a as a parent you look at your kids and you go there's nothing they could ever do they could do the I would never damn them for all internal damnation for anything that they could possibly do in this world right as a parent so can you imagine God going oh you didn't go to church on Sunday and you want me to Friday and no no here think about yeah George Carlin is a great bid on the meat on Friday oh he says that guy they got rid of purgatory do you think there's still people there doing time on the meat wrap so I always said the same thing I go so changed it is there is there like do they go back right yeah um you know here's an interesting thing you know when when I take when I hear those people come at me so negatively the first thing I do when anybody's coming at me negatively the first thing before I I don't have an emotional reaction I asked what what is the fear what are they afraid of where are they afraid of not being loved and you can always find it you know the the the the people who are who are judging me or judging me because they they're afraid they're wrong or they're afraid they're oh yeah if you are right then that means everything that my entire life has been based on the foundation that I've raised my beliefs upon are wrong and if they are wrong then my entire world comes down that's in politics that's in religion that's in just how what you eat talk about vegans and carnivores for forget about it like oh my gosh what a financial vegan and carnivore because I've done them both right and what I find interesting is the the love and peace vegans are the are the most vehement and Evil they they will attack an attack you know listen uh I I you know Mac and PC I mean it's just what do you want to share it go ahead exactly so if you're a Mac or your PC person like if you think that PCS are good it just ruins the this the construct that you've put in your in your in your mind to live this life and if that's challenged you fight to the death unless you are open-minded and doesn't have as much fear when you don't have his ear you could go well wait a minute is reincarnation possible well let's let's look into that and see I know I was told it wasn't possible but you know what it kind of makes more sense because if you only got One Life to Live and it sucks in the Bible it's in the Bible what do you mean it's in the Bible it's like who do they say that I am some say you were Elijah or some Prophet reborn no I tell you Elijah has come already and you have shunned him referring to John the Baptist so they had to believe he could return us either John the Baptist or Jesus from Nazareth it's it's it's a it's a fascinating it's a fascinating thing uh when you start digging into this stuff uh especially deep in spirituality but you're right it's always fear fear is the base of all of this lashing out but when you are open-minded and I think by the way in today's world more than 20 years ago there is much more seeking there's people who are like you know what the traditional way is not working anymore we are questioning it at all I'm so glad you brought that up because when I was out speaking it was 20 years ago my my first regression was in 1999. and and I was out speaking all over the country like I said and the reason I stopped is because they could only be into who I was as opposed to stepping into their divinity when I came back to this a year and a half ago I am blown away at the shift in humanity blown away because everybody's about how do I do this how do I get there and they're the the really if there's a huge push towards their own connectedness with God and I just love God Consciousness yada yada whatever you call it um but you know the universe The Source yeah right God is is a trigger word apparently right it is and as as is Jesus right and I I call him jeshua because that was my memory right and you can't tell from the painting but uh he actually looks much lighter skinned than the painting is the painting is actually darker and I I got crucified for him being a dark-skinned man right right and it was like you know it's it's anything that changes their idea of what's possible it's again it's Galileo it's it's just basically like what do you mean that the Sun what and they forgave him in 1986 the same year Ferris Bueller's a day off came out what the heck is that about thing that thank God they came I mean at least during ferris's uh theatrical run uh exactly that and Big Trouble in Little China same here obviously which is a very spiritual movie in its own absolutely but you know and this is the other thing I've always found even in my own my own experience you know walking the Earth is this like well there's a billion or two Buddhists another billion Hindus you know a billion Catholics and God knows how many other type of of of religions out there they're all looking at a different side of the elephant as they as that old saying says it's so true so you just like oh the tail is the way no the trunk is the way no the foot is the way and you're like no it's not it's just a small part of the whole thing but I'd love to you said something earlier that you said you can if you can find love in all religions uh in all walks of spirituality as long as you don't uh condemn or judge and that's such a powerful thing because there are by the way I know I know Catholic priests who are right now uh I had them on the show who helped transition Souls who are lost over to the other side and I asked them so how is the church working now how is that working out with the church and they're like kind of just let me do my thing right uh you know but he's still a you know a hard he's a he's a Catholic priest but he's doing different work and he's not judging people well you know the Catholic the Catholic faith it really it for many years leveraged in fear right I mean still does right yeah I grew up in Rehoboth Beach Delaware which is a beautiful Beachside Community it's also known to be the nation's gay summer capital right Catholic church has a giant man used to have a Giants mansion on the beach every priest in the entire East Coast would vacation in Rehoboth Beach Delaware I cannot tell you how many times I saw a priests coming out of gay boys hand in hand with her boyfriend right to me there's nothing wrong with that because if if God is love love is not wrong in any form right but the hypocrisy of saying you know I I don't I don't believe that that's a that's uh Godly or it's a sin to lie with another man because Paul said it Paul who in the Gnostic text is referred to by James the brother of Joshua as the great liar which is fascinating too when you dive into that right well God is love and here's the other thing I wanted to tap into what you just said um love can be found everywhere but the universal thoughts and the universal truths can be found everywhere Buddha said what you think you become you create your world Krishna said you are the culmination of your thought the Bible says as a man thinketh so is he Shakespeare said there's nothing good in her bed but thinking makes it so and he also said words without thoughts never to Heaven go so you can find these amazing truths in all areas if you trap yourself into one school of thought you are missing the beautiful enormity and simplicity of God I agreed 110 is if and that's what we try to that's why I try to bring so many different walks of life onto the show from different perspectives and you know Indian gurus and Mystics you know from Europe and Catholic priests and Buddhists and Tibetans and beautiful people like yourself I'm trying to bring as many things and ideas together but the thing that I found and I have a very unique perspective on this because of now almost 200 conversations like this um I'm starting to notice common truths to keep popping up and you can't get that until you have the perspective I have of just being able to talk to so many different spiritual people uh that have had either spiritual experience or our Mystics or in all walks of life but when you start seeing common denominators I'm like well there's but God is love okay so that's common truth um the concept of reincarnation keeps coming up I haven't had one person who he's walked the spiritual path who has not said that said like no no you only get the one life because that's judgment that's that's very static very rigid thinking right um so reincarnation past lives ideas like that um we're here to we're here to learn to experience to remember why we're here what we truly are and the concept of sewing and reaping yes Karma yeah Karma and people think it's you know Karma over a lifetimes and yeah am I doomed because of my karma karma is is what you're showing you're reaping but you have to realize you can sow something new in every present moment and you can create something different in every present moment it's a matter of people get into these these these new a new I say new age and I don't want to say in a negative way these new I think New Age Dogma is just as pervasive as old age Dogma oh absolutely and and a lot of times the like for instance the word meditation when you say the word meditation it can be Mantra meditation breathing meditation candle meditation walking meditation right I I don't call it meditation anymore just because it's so convoluted I call it sitting in love right and I just go into my room and I exhale and I feel that space and next thing though it's 40 minutes later and I've been in this Beautiful Bliss state for for 40 minutes and when I started doing that every day my whole world smoothed out and then I started doing this other thing like I meditate grocery shopping all right I walk into the grocery store and before I go in I go and I get that feeling and I walk in with a smile of it and people do a double take and smile at me and then they start talking to you because they're not used to feeling it right not just experiencing it then I realized you know it there's a primal function of the body that when we get into a fierce date we store air in our bodies we go you know if we're a parent and we have children we know that moment where that toddler was going across the living room and they tripped and fall and almost smacked their head on the coffee table right and we go I'm a gas for air well we're doing that because we're filling our lungs up so we can run fast and people when they're in fear they go I can't breathe I can't breathe it's not that they can't breathe as if they're not releasing their air but if you take an actor on stage they're literally trained if they forget their lines and they have a they get into that fear state they're literally trained to Exhale relax all their muscles and all their lines just flood right back into their head because they shut off the fear response so that idea that every every meditation form that I've ever tried has all led me to the moment where I went and just let go and so I bypassed the modality and the technique and I just go to the letting go and that's how I get to that space very quickly and when I do privates I do a lot of private sessions for people I do you know it's four or five a day sometimes because I want to help people you know Break Free of those barriers and I get it's so interesting to watch because they come in tense right and by getting them to the space of focusing on a positive outcome and creating something different by the end of the sessions They're laughing and they're and they're exhaling and what is a laugh but a joyful exhale right you're just sitting there and you're feeling that state so so did Jesus meditate well Jesus would do a I don't know if he had a specific form of meditation but he would go off for long periods of time and just sit on his own so I would consistent go inward yeah for and I would consider it a meditation um and what's really interesting is when you were talking earlier about um you should use the word demon or whatever it's really interesting the word Satan um has two separate dictionary meanings one of them is Deceiver sure right the other one is Temptation which I think is really interesting because our Satan is our own Temptations It's Our Own fit yeah inflexible thought from our past right and so it to me it clearly comes down to you go to meditate to come to a closer place I I do it and I sit and love because it's to me it's it's Smooths out my life let me ask you this because you just triggered something in me that just popped into my head when you said that that the word Satan is Temptation well arguably this entire existence is a temptation of the physical form is a Temptation sure so to be free of the temptation of the physical form to evolve Beyond it to uh to go past it as all great Masters do Jesus Buddha um I I use yoga Nanda Babaji all these kind of Indian uh yogis and things they be they go beyond the physical yeah so they have released the Temptation they have no temptation to physical ideas they even get to the point where they don't even have attachment to the body which is the ultimate release to a certain extent have you had experience with that uh as far as getting out of body yes yes [Laughter] I've meditated um now for five five years now I'm gonna say that I've been meditating for about an hour to two sometimes three a day yeah uh consistently right I mean I just did an hour and change before onto this call I'll do another hour and change before I the day is over um it is uh when you go when you continue to meditate at that level Contin continuously at the beginning and I've said this on the show before at the beginning it's it's a mess you're just trying to sit there it's an absolute mess your brain's stopping you your brains what are you doing what's going on this and that to the point now where I'm like I need it to function right in my day and but there has been moments that I've gone so deep that I I I'm not I'm somewhere else I don't know where that is and and I spoke to Tibetan Monks I've spoken to you know Buddhist monks who meditate long periods and they go oh yeah yeah we understand which is like oh you you got there too okay great it's like it's not nothing special and it's everyone could do it everyone could absolutely I am I I attribute most of my big spiritual light show experiences to my naivete oh yeah by being completely naive right my I had I had what is termed as a Kundalini rising in a tent in a tent in New Orleans and well that's a good place to do that sir so weird though is what happened was it they were having a record cold snap and I was staying in this tent freezing my butt off and earlier that week I had seen on 60 Minutes a a bit about these Buddhist monks who would go into a freezer and they would put cold wet towels on them yeah and so they would come out and the towels were like 120 degrees it was like the heat of the towels beyond their physical body heat correct and it was like that's amazing right so here I am in this tent in Newark that's freezing my butt off I'm like well if they can do it so can I right totally naive and it doesn't take you know sitting on a Mountaintop somewhere right so I just said okay I'm gonna focus on my feet and I just focus and I focus on my feet and I can feel my feet and I said my feet are getting warm and my feet got warm and then oh okay I'm gonna bring it up to my shins remember the course of a long period of time I got it all the way up to my chest and it wouldn't go any higher and then that's when the Mind kicks in and the mind says you gotta force it force it and you're sitting there going trying to try to get it out and suddenly I heard this thought and I I say it that way it's hearing someone else's thoughts or hearing the thoughts of God or something that says relax into it and I let go and I just exhaled and boom I was everything and I was in pure the white expanse I talked about this is before I had my regression that white expanse I was in feeling one with everything I'm just having this amazing completely warm and I and then I woke up the next morning and I turned in my my comedy partner at the time who was a long time practitioner of TM and I and I was like this is what happened to me and I explained the whole thing he says oh my God you gotta couldn't leave your eyes I've been trying to have one of those for years right and and then I realized because I was naive I didn't have to try and just the belief that I am trying is asking God for trying I am wanting I am needing I am hoping I am trying or not are non-present moment action yes I'm joyfully receiving so then the next night I said well I'm gonna do that again right right now started the process and suddenly in the process of bringing the heat up I hear the zipper of the tent open and I open my eyes and I watch my comedy Partners step into the tent and he stepped over top of me and I looked down at my own face down there and I was looking at my body below me and I was just like I'm within minutes I was back in my body holy crap what the heck was that I said you know I just saw you come into the tent what was also happening as he came into 10 all I could hear was what what most people would consider the OM um right and so I'm like I saw you step into that you separated her I looked at my own face and he says he says did you hear the humming noise I was like yeah he says yeah your out of body happens to me all the time right so it the people who know don't necessarily talk about it the people who who talk about it don't necessarily know but it is a matter of It's Always a personal experience it's always your eyes and oh it's a always then I got to the point where I was just doing out of bodies all the time and and they were just I would do things like I'd wake up and the alarm clock would go off and I'd reach over to turn it off and I couldn't figure out why I couldn't turn it off that I realized I forgot my arm my arm was here but the other hand was smacking over there and then I'm going to tell you a funny story so I was once again doing this technique you know bringing the warmth of my body and I got I was getting out of bodies consistently and I was wandering around the campground of the Maryland Renaissance Festival just kind of experiencing it and then one night I got out I said you know I wonder if I can travel distance and so I chose to go to my old Hometown Rehoboth Beach and I ended up going to my friend's beau's house and I'm a very like I said earlier I like to get proof and documentation so I go there and I'm like okay what do what can I see that I can come back and verify I was there and I went I went to my friend Bo's house and I'm there and I look over and he's asleep on the couch and I'm like okay he's asleep on the couch and I thought well I wonder if I can project the thought and I just said I need to project a thought that if he says it to me I'll I'll know that I've did something and I'm like what do I say what do I say whoa purple rhinoceros purple rhinoceros purple rhinoceros purple rhinoceros because I wanted something so weird that if you said it he was gonna I called him up the next day he said how you doing he says is this so weird you're calling me man I had a dream last night you were in my house saying purple rhinoceros he literally said it on the phone to me so I come to realize you know our the key to everything I just said is my belief I believed I was doing it and you know you look you look at the wall you look across the room at the wall across from you and you realize that Einstein has said to us that room is that wall is nothing but a Pure Energy Event in motion yes and the air between you and that wall is a Pure Energy Event in motion same thing and the eyes that you're looking at it with are pure energy in motion this whole thing is a product of your belief it's a product of what you what you you put into it and simulation if you will yeah absolutely absolutely and you know when you when you look at it that way you start to realize that you can there's the thing people talk about you know the superhero movies right now are all talking about multiverses yeah right it's amazing isn't it yeah you can sit at the same table with somebody having a great time while they're having a negative one and it and the story I like to tell I was walking to a restaurant with a friend of mine on the way here and he says I hate this place why do we always come here I said what are you talking about I love this place this is the perfect greasy spoon right right let me go in we sit down the waitress comes over to the table she says I'm sorry I'm having a bad day and it's going to reflect in the service right right across from me is instantly mad right I go I well I can give her love right so I say oh I'm so sorry you're having a bad day why don't you sit down I'll get you some dinner and I'll take care of the rest of your tables right and she started laughing and we started joking back and forth and it was it was beautiful I ended up getting her number right now here's the interesting part was we we both ordered our dinners and our salads came and I swear to God my salad looked like she hand-picked each leaf and you know it was like the lights were coming from Heaven how great the salad was got set in front of them it was the core of the iceberg lettuce cut into four parts right it was just like the worst experience ever our Stakes come we both ordered steaks I swear to you my steak was cooked by my mother it was like exactly the way I like it exactly perfect he cut into his steak and the center was frozen it's fascinating because again being able to talk to so many different people from different walks of life especially in the scientific Community when I'm talking to Quantum physicists a lot and neuroscientists and things the concept of the simulation Theory Maya the illusion all that kind of stuff but this concept of the world we are creating the world that we are in our reality with our our minds and you said earlier in regards to you know people that were able to heal themselves uh by their beliefs and people are thinking now they're like that's impossible like oh well there's something called a placebo effect that has been around in science that science hates they don't understand it they can't get they wrap their heads around it but it is a force that if there's a belief that the pill the sugar pill is going to cure them magically it does and they have no understanding of why it does it so that's the power of the brain that's the power of the not the brain of the mind of the focus and then when you start talking to you know a lot of the things we're talking about about out of body and this kind of stuff might sound woo-woo to people and that's fine but if you start looking deeply into yogic philosophies of two three four five thousand years ago and their their text these ideas have been talked about forever ever forever it's just these are not new age woo-woo ideas these ideas come from a very deep place that's been around Humanity for thousands of years unfortunately some of these ideas have been taken over by more of this kind of woo-woo kind of vibe and that's what turns a lot of people off and that's what I'm trying to do here in the show is to bring more of a little bit of a practical standpoint because I'm like you I'm I am more science based I'm more I'm more rational you know and practical that I like to use practical because that's how I am one of the one of the things that my first regression um I said it's so simple we have a hard time understanding it all right right it's absolutely and and and that I like and when I when I talk about that's the Simplicity of this I say when you say you're hungry your stomach growls when you say you're tired you yawn right I am is God's name I am tired you're gone you actually are creating you are already creating your experience you are already Divine you're already doing it it's a matter of them becoming conscious like jeshua was but the interesting thing about Joshua was that he understood it was uh in motion and as I said you know we don't go through time linearly time goes through us and so the the Bible um uh mother comes to Joshua and says that they're out they're out of wine first line he says it's not time yet and then he turns to the servants he says fill those jugs with water and they go and they fill those jugs with water and over the course of time he goes over and raises his hand and boom it's wine so he understood that he's bringing it into his experience through his beliefs he understood that he had to put all three elements thought word and deed because the deed was fill the jugs with water because Deeds based in faith are creative and so he had to put the thoughts and words and deeds into into action until finally he could culminate into a wine and most people have a hard time with the comprehension that that they are bringing in all of their life experience you said earlier about near-death experiences one of the things I find interesting about near-death experiences is the is the Life review yes because they cross over and they each have their own experience you know if you're a Christian you see Jesus and Buddha you see Buddha Shiva you see Shiva but the other thing that happens is you you cross over and you have a review of your life and all of the feelings of your life and all of the feelings of the people you interacted with you hear that as well right so my belief what's happening is when you when you cross over you have to transition through your belief and out of your belief and as you transition through your belief inality which is why some people see hell because they believe in hell and they believe they were they've done something wrong I had one I had somebody that went through hell and she's like I only I only went through hell because I thought I needed to go through it it's exactly right and so the the other the other one is is I believe it's called folding being folded back into the Oneness of God in Hinduism the consciousness of God is the sit and we are the sitsaki which is the individual Sparks of Consciousness within God and so basically you're getting folded back into it and to really make this interestingly simple people ask me about the Trinity all the time and I believe that we are the Holy Spirit and the father it was it there's no gender in God the father is because of the patriarchal time when it was written but the father is the god consciousness the sun is the physical world consciousness the holy spirit is the Consciousness that sits between that is us without our fears without our anxieties that's fully aware of our divine self and so what happens if we get these information from our divine self that's coming through but that Divine self is connected to the other sitsaki the other individual Sparks of Oneness and so you're tapping into the Oneness of God you know when I do a private session an hour before I do one I sit down and I write the person's name on a sheet of paper and I do what I said earlier I just let go and words start to form in my head and I do an automatic writing for everyone and what I find so fascinating is that they come on and they go oh my God how did you know that how did you know this I had one one time and I literally in the very beginning I think I said I don't know why I'm supposed to say this but you're Truly Scrumptious [Laughter] what and we kept I kept I read down further and I called her choochie face and um and then I said something and this was the most fascinating line that um all empirical evidence is found in illusion in an illusion of belief so science itself is a Dogma which I thought was interesting right so I read this thing to this lady and she says oh my she said well let me tell you what you're talking about it says my husband who's passed away now our favorite movie was Chitty Chitty Bang Bang he used to sing you're Truly Scrumptious and my little choochie face to me and the line that you read that said all empirical evidence is found an illusion of belief is from his book right but I don't you know just by opening to it I don't judge what comes through I don't care if it comes from a crossover or just from the consciousness of God I believe it's all one and I think in the crossing over we get folded back into that Oneness and it's and it's all very simple it all has happening in the present and and that's beautiful and to go back to what you said earlier in regards to the the wine the Jesus uh parlor trick if you will uh that's Jesus did um as you were saying it I was thinking like well that's that's a yogi that's a yogic power I mean if you just go back and listen and read just read autobiography of a yogi by Yogananda read the second coming of Christ by Yogananda oh yeah yeah the resurrection yeah the resurrection of course that's that which is within you which is yeah mind blowing my favorite quote my favorite quote of yogananda's is Jesus died on the cross 2 000 years ago but his teachings have been crucified ever since Gandhi says I I I I like your Jesus I don't like your Christians that's amazing that's amazing uh John is so I want to also ask you uh what do you think about what's going on in the world today this this this this kind of insanity that seems to be happening over the last four three four years yeah uh longer probably but just really since the pandemic and all that stuff that the world is just it seems like it's out of control but yet at the same time you and I have both said there seems to be an Awakening so there seems to be like a lot of crazy but a lot of spiritual is coming up to balance that I don't know so glad you asked this question Alex because it's to me it's so important to talk about this you know Socrates said when the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser right and right and you've heard a lot of name-calling the past several years you've heard a lot of lack of agenda you know you know you know like we're we're just against you we don't we don't have a real idea right so you've heard a lot of this Division and it's like this the world is a predominantly positive place and most people don't realize that and you know if you take if I were to if I were to have a job up in Cleveland and I live about a half an hour from Cleveland and I would commute every day I'd probably pass a thousand cars on the road and once a day maybe probably not even once a day but once this day once a day there might be a fender bender on the side of the road what's going to be on the news the the anomaly the thing that's different from the rest what should be the number one story is that 999 cars made it safely to their destination right because that is the truth of our reality the what I find most interesting is there is there is loving stories every day but we don't focus on them because this our society is really based on the fact that fear sells and so I tell people all this well even even we talked about Christian Catholicism earlier you know the the whole concept of Catholicism is based upon marketing fear for recruitment you know you're born in sin right I don't know any any parent in in the in the world who has held their child for the first time and said ooh look at that nasty sinner right right right they don't say that okay right don't get me started right and then then first communion they're like yeah we're indoctrinated in the brain that's what they're doing then they get to the cognitive thinking years yeah age 13. and they go oh we better make them confirm this thing and they have a confirmation right yeah and then then they give them this thing called confession which is you can do bad things but there's only one place that you can come back to to get absorbed of that right and then you start having your hormones kick in and the hormones come in and they say oh you've got hormones now so if you have a predilection for the opposite sex then you should get married and have more babies with original sin and if you don't then you should become a priest or a nun right and so they've got this this ongoing cycle of recruitment going right all based in fear but but let me just also this I'm not trying to bash Catholicism I have met beautiful loving people in office of course of course of course but it's the cycle of fears is really and then like in 1830 Minister Darby talk to a Scottish boy about a dream he had and Minister Darby went and sat in the woods and thought about that dream and then he opened his Bible and he saw this this one line that said they will gather them up and then Minister Darby started writing it all down and he created this this idea right 1830 this happened called The Rapture oh yeah right the rapture's not in the Bible it but but a lot of the Fates will push it as if it is and the whole Left Behind series and all that stuff and that's an 1830s guy now Minister Darby also had many beliefs about the end of the world too and those years came and went right but they they take the ones that that are great tools of fear to keep people in fear and you know it's about power more so than it is about about love you know um when I when I went to Egypt in 2000 everywhere I went in the country I was treated like an absolute Prince and to give you an example I went to Mount Sinai and I was climbing Mount Sinai and you start you start climbing at one o'clock in the morning at 2 30 in the morning in the darkness on the south side of Mount Sinai I hear John John which by the way really trippy to be honest [Laughter] it wasn't God it was the manager of the hotel that I was staying at he had run up an hour and a half up Mount Sinai to bring me his coat because he thought I'd be cold oh my God right that's amazing the next day I'm going through St Catherine's monastery and this guy comes up to me say are you American I go yeah I'm American he says me too he says have you been having problems since you've been here I said no everybody's treating me like a prince he says everywhere I go people want to fight me I have no idea why what could it be five minutes later I wanted to kick the guy's butt right it was like what we put out of the world our belief about our experience is exactly what we get in return and you know you I I'm and people just want to be loved there's a hero of mine and you don't hear about her enough her name's Antoinette tough and Antoinette tough was a is a well I don't know if she is still but she was an office worker at a high school and in the door walks a troubled kid with an AR-15 and he's there to kill people and he and he says I'm here I'm going to kill and the police come and and she's on the phone with the police and she she's on the phone with the police she says how can I help you honey what can I do for you and she he's like he's like nobody cares nobody because I care baby I love you I love you baby right and she's taught she's just talking to this kid and she says you know I'm gonna make sure nothing nothing goes bad I'm gonna make sure no you don't get hurt here today and we're gonna take care of you baby and she goes over she hugs the kid and she takes the gun away and she says she says you come in here but you leave him alone you'll be you'll be nice to him she's telling the police and the police come in and they they take the gun and they gently walk him out and he he's getting mental care right but what happened she instead of being afraid instead of succumbing to what was coming she just loved him she just gave him the love that he needed that waitress story I told you earlier at the end of my meal there was one at the beginning of my meal there was two negative people one positive person at the end of my meal there was two positive people one negative person it really you know it's up to us to leave a positive wake behind us you know we're the ones and here's here's the other thing that a lot of spiritual people struggle with they want to save the world you you can't save the world what you can do is make your part of the world so bright that the rest of the world chooses to save their part of the world and in the end wonderfully said my friend wonderfully said I'm going to ask you a few questions I asked all of my guests John great um what is your definition of living a good life uh being my true authentic self-loving as I want to be loved what is your definition of God everything and what is the ultimate purpose of life to come to know and understand God slash love more fully and where can people find out more about you and the work that you're doing sir uh johnofnew.com very easy to find also on YouTube John of new and Alex I don't know if if you you looked at my stuff about my readings yes yes I do want to offer your audience a 50 discount on my readings and you'll have a link that you can share with them absolutely we'll put it in there we'll put it in the show notes in this in the description as well as if anyone's interested but only if you're interested I'm not forcing you or asking you to jump over there and buy it if this rang true to you if it feels true to your heart realize this in your life you know it is your personal Journey if it rings true to you follow it if it doesn't ring true to you don't I don't expect you to believe anything I just said and do you have any final words for our audience John yeah your present moment is the pinpoint of creation and how you live in this present moment is how your next moment will be let's make it a good one John I appreciate you my friend this has been a fantastic conversation I love talking to you it's it's it's just a good energy between you and I my friend so I appreciate you and all the work you're doing in the world my friend well thank you so much I I after watching several of your videos it's really funny I hear you say things that I say and I was like that's pretty that's pretty cool that's the good work Alex [Music] hello [Music]