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2A The Nature of God's Suffering

Apr 28, 2025

The Nature of God: Can God Suffer?

Traditional Christian View of God

  • Omnibenevolent: All good
  • Omnipotent: All powerful
  • Omniscient: All-knowing
  • Transcendent: Beyond time and space
  • Impassable: Cannot suffer or experience emotion
  • Immutable: Cannot change
    • If God is perfect, any change would mean losing perfection.

Old Testament View

  • God is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent.
  • Exists at an epistemic distance.
  • Displays outward emotions like love, grief, compassion.
  • Inner emotional state remains unchanged.

New Testament View

  • God incarnate in Jesus, who is passable (can experience emotions).
  • Jesus weeps (John 11:35), shows compassion (Matthew 9:36).
  • Father remains impassable, plan to overcome suffering through resurrection.

Jurgen Moltmann's View

  • Key Work: "The Crucified God"
  • Challenges traditional view due to historical events (e.g., Holocaust).
  • Argues that God is passable, can suffer and experience emotional change.

Key Concepts

  • Inconsistent Triad: Omnipotent, omniscient, and wholly good God with the existence of evil.
    • Traditional theodicies by Irenaeus and Augustine.
  • Docetism: Heresy that Jesus didn't truly suffer on the cross, as his body wasn't human.

Moltmann's Argument

  • The cry "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" (Mark 15:34) is central.
    • Reflects separation and suffering within God himself.
  • Paradox: God the Father and Son are united yet separated.
  • Father suffers with the Son and the Spirit.

Divine Suffering and Theology of the Cross

  • Suffering and death of the Son, grief of the Father, and outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
  • Moltmann sees the Trinity as sharing in the event of the crucifixion.

Critique of Traditional Theology

  • Traditional view sees Jesus’ cry as separation from God.
  • Moltmann argues God, as a whole, suffered.

Moltmann's Personal Experience and Theodicy

  • Born in an atheist family, became a POW in WWII.
  • Questioned God's presence during atrocities like the Holocaust.
  • Believes God suffers with humanity, unlike traditional theodicies.

Impact and Implications

  • Challenges traditional Christian perspective on God's impassibility.
  • Argues for a God who can be involved and affected by human suffering.
  • Critiques:
    • Logical issues with God being changeable.
    • Contradicts traditional notions of the Trinity and divine nature.
    • Questions the significance of the resurrection if God suffers like humans.

Conclusion

  • Moltmann proposes a God who suffers with humanity, relevant to modern experiences.
  • Offers a radical reinterpretation of the crucifixion and the nature of God.
  • Criticisms include potential weakening of God's transcendence and power.

Further Considerations

  • Moltmann's views encourage a political and social responsibility for Christians.
  • Highlights the depth of God's love through divine suffering.