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Wealth Dynamics and Connection Insights

Hello, hello everyone. Welcome back to day three of the Happy Wealth Summit. I'm your co-host, Zen Chin, and today's theme might just be the missing link in your journey to a truly wealthy life. We're going to talk about connection and wealth dynamics. Because our wealth, it doesn't just thrive in isolation. It needs to grow through connection. How you relate to your partner, your team, maybe your clients, your community, and also uh yourself. I'm very very excited by the way to see some new faces in the chat uh along with returning people too. Hey everyone, can you type again where you're dialing in from because I really really would love to see how global this group is. I see Michelle is saying this summit has been amazing. Thank you so much Michelle. I appreciate you a lot too. And um wow I see people from Brazil from UK, from Tampa, from Japan. Hey there. Hey from Japan. This is so beautiful. So for some of the new faces here, right? uh people who have had a chance to join us on day one and day two whether it is for one session or the whole day. Can you go ahead and share in the chat some of your feedback and maybe let those who are just tuning in on day three uh to know if the summit has been good for you like do we have good talks are the speakers actually great because as much as Ken and I have a lot of confidence in this summit and the amazing content uh I would like to get an unbiased opinion so if you guys can just share in the chat that would be amazing. And by the way, Ken and I did read your comments from yesterday from day two. Uh, and on behalf of Ken, the team, and myself, just want to say from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much because your comments of love and enthusiasm is what gets us excited to do something like this. Wow. Haylor said that the summit has been wonderful and everyone can certainly take something from it. Four hearts. I'm giving four hearts back. Thank you so much. And ooh Koichi song ah Kochiang from Japan said all days are wonderful and feel a lot of love. Aligato tashimash that that's so wonderful and we're really excited for you all because today's theme is very very special and this entire series this 4day summit has been made available for free. So if you're just registering now you're actually one of the over 10,000 people who signed up and said yes I do want to create more happy wealth. Yes, I want to learn proven tools and shift my mindset. Yes, I am ready to create a life that I truly love and that's wealthy on my own terms. And that's really what we started on day one in intuition and synchronicities. And yesterday we talked a lot about manifestation about different definitions of abundance about how you can actually start activating that and let that flow of wealth coming into your life. And so today we're shifting gears a bit because we're going to talk about connection, right? Because think about it, we are a species that thrive with one another. We thrive in a group in a tribe and whether it is a romantic relationship like with our partners who we spend all the time with. By the way, you may have heard the quote, "We are the five people hang out most with." Imagine, you know, just ask yourself, is your partner on that list? Most of the time it is. So, how can you actually allow yourself to thrive even more in your wealth, right? In that relationship, but also with your friends and with your work, you know, how can we actually leverage amazing relationships to bring your wealth to the next level to almost activate a spiritual compound effect, right? And so, this is going to be a huge part of what we're going to talk about today. If you're interested in that, can you guys can you guys share in the chat? I'm curious. Uh Kim said that I'm already noticing flow coming into my life. That's amazing, Kim. I'm so happy for you. And wow, love my husband. That's a great sign. That's a great sign. Um so I noticed a lot of you here, uh Gwen said that the education and motivating to live life. You love the summit. Well, we love you too, Gwen. Thank you for making the time to be here. So uh for everyone who's watching live right now um when you come on this page please also make sure to log into your YouTube account and comment interact with us um as you all here because uh we actually have this on the page. However this is available on desktop. So if you're on mobile please lock over to desktop so you can interact with everyone here right and uh all the talks uh on yesterday day two they were available until 9:00 a.m. Eastern time which is right now. Uh so those links now have been switched over to day three so we can focus on today's summit. That being said, uh at the end of today uh all the talks that are on day three will also be available for you until 9:00 a.m. tomorrow in Eastern time. So uh if you have to leave in the middle of it, uh and you have like an urgent thing, let's say your dog ate your homework, u don't worry, we got you back. You still can watch the replay again. Now, if you have the VIP access, if you're a VIP access member, you will have access to all our talks and sessions, uh, plus all the wonderful bonuses that comes with it, uh, if you sign up. So, the VIP lifetime access pass is $99 and it includes all the recordings both in audio and video format. And if you are someone who wants to go deep into the transcripts, we're giving that to you as well. And it also comes with summit workbooks for all four days to guide you through every single theme. and more bonuses. So, you can actually see a little button on this page. Uh you can click on that on this watch page and you can upgrade right away. If you're someone who prefers a QR code, I can actually pull it up as well. So, you can scan the QR code and get lifetime access to all the recordings and sessions on this in this summit. Now that being said, I also just want to say that the way you attract uh true wealth into your life, it really depends on how much time and integration you spend on this as well. So if you want to actually take advantage of this, right? Uh and do it on your own terms on your own time. Quite honestly, you're sending the universe uh the message that hey, I am an abundant person. All right. Now, another thing just to do a quick check. Thank you by the way, Nema. Nema said, "Thank you for this wonderful opportunity." Again, Nema, you chose to show up, so you actually should thank yourself. And uh I see someone saying, "Thank you for doing this live." Absolutely. Absolutely. We're so grateful for you to be here. Um Denise said, "I'm experiencing financial flow, too." That's amazing, Denise. I think that means that you did do something and you should acknowledge yourself for taking action. And by the way, for everyone here, I invite you to take action. Whenever you get an insight today because um that's very very powerful. When you start taking small actions, you're also signaling to yourself and to the universe that hey, I'm serious about this. I'm not just consuming content. I'm actually going to make a difference in my life. Wow, Argentina, welcome. This is so amazing. And so I'm going to do a quick um just a quick uh house rules on how things are going to go. So I'm putting this up. So as you guys know, we are going to have uh six sessions today actually on connection and relationships and wealth dynamics. It's going to be about three minutes between each session, right? And again you can log into your YouTube account to engage and you know join all these wonderful people. Hi from New Zealand, Melody, nice to have you here. I know it's a really odd time for you right now. Kudos to you for showing up. Um, by the way, if you're not in our Facebook group, uh, what are you waiting for? Check it out because a lot of the conversations are going to continue there, right? So, you guys can actually go there, get to know each other, get to really continue, uh, these wonderful, wonderful connections you're building here. Uh, and finally, of course, uh, if you haven't already, uh, if you do choose to upgrade to the VIP pass, I just want to say thank you as well, because your support would allow us to create even more content like this to share with all of you around the world. Now, with that being said, who is ready for day three? Can you type the word three in the chat if you're ready for day three? Wow, that is wonderful. Fantastic. Okay, so with that being said, our first speaker of the day, I see all your comments, is none other than again Ken Honda. And he's going to actually go into a very interesting topic. He told me already what he wanted to talk about. And um he's going to open up and share a very personal story in this session, something that really defined him to even go on this journey of creating happy money and true wealth and share this work with the rest of the world. You all probably read the work uh the book happy money before. If you read happy money, can you type happy money in the chat? It's one of his most famous books in English, right? And it it's translated to tons of languages around the world. If you read happy money, right? So, one of his reasons of writing that book, he's going to share that in today's session. So, if you are ready, please, please give a big round of applause, leave some heart emojis in the chat, and welcome Ken Honda on stage. Hello, Ken Honda here. I'm so excited that we're doing this for the third day. Welcome to the happy wealth summit. Today we are going to talk about connection and wealth dynamics. Talking about the connection, I felt connected with all the speakers yesterday and the day before. So when I was going to ask these people, are you willing to come uh to my summit? I was not really sure because they're so super busy and I felt very deep connection with them but not necessarily the feelings are mutual. When I was a grade school many years ago, I thought this is this is a this person. I thought he's my best friend, but he denied he's my friend in front of all the other people. I was so embarrassed and shocked. So since then I have little issue about friendship. So, I was so happy to find out all the speakers that I'm going to interview today, they are real friends. And the connection is so important because think of the connections and relationships you have in your life. If the relationships were good ones, you feel so accepted, you feel joy, and you feel life is great. But if you had a bad relationships at work, at schools, with your friends and neighbors, with their relatives, then something is missing in your life. You know, we can tell each other very quickly that people some people have lots of love in their life, others not much. And as we can figure out uh this person is a happy person because he he or she is surrounded by family members, good friends. We can usually tell. So that is almost in your aura. We have this ability to figure out is this person an enemy? Could be a threat. We have this special skill even though we don't speak the language when we are in a foreign country. We can tell if the person right next to you is a trustworthy person or not. So if you meet this person who could potentially be the threat then you are very careful right? So the connection is so important and we know it almost intuitively. Some people are bad and some people are good. And when you come to think of it, relationship is a key to bring happiness and abundance. Your neighbors dogs don't bring money to you. It's always the people who bring you the money. Cultivating good relationships with people is really the key. And also the first person you should have a good relationship is you. So if you have a good relationship with yourself, you feel happier because you love yourself and then you feel you're lovable. But if you don't like yourself, if you don't respect who you are, then other people around you will treat you that way. So nurturing a relationship is very important and that includes money. So today we're going to touch the subject of money, relationships and wealth dynamics. So my father used to teach me a lot about money. My father's clients used to visit us on Sundays. I was the one who brought Japanese tea to them and say hello. So, I could embarrass my father's clients by asking them, "What's your ROI? What's your PR?" And that kind of thing. And I didn't know what they meant, but I knew those jargon embarrassed my father's clients. And I really had so much fun because I was so little and the the adults were like, "Oh my god, can you bring your father now?" Uh so uh I started learning about money when I was very small and my father used to say money has two sides like a coin. One is angel the other is devil. So you have to be very careful which side will come out. And I said what do you mean by that? So money can be so much fun. You know you want to buy something like your toys, money can do that for you. So money can bring you happiness, joy and excitement. But at the same time, money can bring misery and fear and also angry feelings. Some people get upset with money and sometimes commit crimes. So you have to be careful how you use this coin. And I got really scared because the way he said it is scary too. You know how parents uh try to scare their kids. Uh he did that with me. I was really scared. And a few years later the scary thing happened. Uh when I came back from school one day my father was crying like a baby. And my mother took me aside and uh she shared that my father's best friend committed suicide. He was my father's best friend and also his client. He advised that this person should file bankruptcy and then start living a totally new different life. He was ready to offer some help but he didn't tell you know Japanese people that that generation men didn't talk. So he intentionally didn't give the money before bankruptcy because if he gave the money to his client, it'll directly go to the the lone shark which is not what he wanted. So he waited uh until his client because that's the advice he gave filed bankruptcy and he was going to offer help but he committed suicide. So my father got devastated after the incident and he went into the depression. So I thought, wow, this is the devil side of money. So I started learning about money because one day when I have a family, I have to make sure I have the money so they don't have to go through what my father's best friend's family went through. So I had countless nightmares when I was growing up about money. You know, this money monster kind of uh tries to chase me and then well I I woke up. So I studied about money since I was 9 or 10 and I was quite good at it. By the time in my early 20s I was making good money and I re I retired at the age 29 for four years for my baby girl. Then my family was secure and safe. So my relationship with money changed over the years. And I want to ask you who taught you money? What were the feelings you had about money growing up? If you born and brought up in a happy, healthy family and financially stable family, then you have no problems because you think money is your friend. Money can do so many things but money has certain limits. So sometimes you have to do things without money. But if you are 95% of us, you were born and brought up in a family which is not so functioning. So emotionally your parents are unstable especially around money. How many times have we been scolded for doing the wrong things around money? Don't waste your money. Don't do this. Don't do that. So by the time you're 15, you're already scared of money. So that's why we studied so hard. We worked so hard to bring in enough money so we don't suffer. And this money games still keep going even though you're in your 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s. My friend's father was hospitalized uh recently. And the first thing he said is, "Are you okay? Can you can we pay the bills?" And I feel so sad. If you're 85, you should worry about other things, not the hospital bill. But that's who we are. So unless you have a better relationship with money and unless you understand about this wealth dynamics, you will suffer until the day you die. So please enjoy these interviews with me and uh we'll go uh for these beautiful interviews. But before that I want to touch on few things around money. What kind of emotions do you have? Do you have resentment? Guilt, distrust. Does that affect your financial flow? It does to many people. For example, if you don't like money, if you think money could be a hustle, then you don't want money to come to your life. That's how people block money. So, as much as we want money, we don't want money to come close. Uh so, think about this. If money was a person, who would it be? Would it be a scary person? You don't want a scary uh scary person in your house. Or do you want a nice generous like a Santa Claus type of person could be your grandfather, grandmother who always supported you emotionally, financially? So money is like that. If you want a international trip to Japan, to Los Angeles or to Italy or to Africa, then money will get you a ticket in two seconds. So unless you have a good relationship with money, you are all scared and you want to do the right things. That means a lot of things you go it could go wrong. So you feel like a funny pressure around money that way. Once you appreciate what you do and love what you do, that energy will bring in more customers and clients. So please find your passion in everyday life. The other thing is we are so stuck in the in this I must do it myself or myself. So, some people say that I'm a self-made author or I I sold 9 million books. But wait a minute, wait a minute. Yeah, it's it's a fact that I wrote those books, but I didn't sell them. You know, somebody else did. So, at the bookstores, 9 million transactions. Somebody did it manually. Nothing is automatic. Somebody clicked Amazon uh shopping cart and then somebody picked it up at the warehouse. Somebody drove the trucks and then the uh books are uh in your bookshelf now. So did I do it all myself? No. I had the help of millions of people. So if you want to have a financial freedom and safety, you have to ask for help. But we are so good at giving help but we are so bad at asking for one. So with this today's happy wealth summit I want you to learn how to ask for help. And the other point I want to make before the interviews is that this shared wealth or community based abundance is very important. We have lost the sense of community for the past 50 60 years. If you're living in a village or or strong tight community, you're the blessed ones. You know, tens of thousands of years ago, we used to live in a cave with a group of people like say 30 people, 100 people. We needed to cooperate with one another to hunt the mammals or hunt some animals or grow vegetables and rice or wheat. So, we needed people to be around us. But right now, think about it. Realistically speaking, we don't need other people. We can order food on our Uber Eats and somebody with no names deliver it on your front uh door and then you don't even need to see that person. So, we are so cut off from the community unless we work hard to find one. So one of the thing I want to say is find your tribe. You need to find your tribe so you feel nurtured, you feel connected, you feel loved and accepted. We need that. It's part of our DNA to feel safe and joyful in a happy community. Or if you feel like you don't belong to someplace, you feel alienated. You feel lonely. It's not a happy place to be. And if you're going to find a physical community near your home, then you have to find one virtually. This is sort of like that. You and I are separated by oceans. You know, I'm broadcasting this from Japan. I don't know where you're joining from, but not very close. But we are connected emotionally. So I think of you as my family, as my tribe. So you have to find your own tribe. And if you have more passion, create your own tribe so other people can join you. This summit is about the a tribe, global tribe that by finding who you are, by doing what we what we love, we create abundance. So that is a communitybased uh living. So I hope you can find your community and feel connected. And also the other thing I want to do is I want you to figure out who has helped you financially. If you're working for a company or individual client, who was the one who financed you? Because of the money you're given. You could pay the rent or mortgage or food or travel. So, can you start counting each one? Remember their face and send them thank you happy energy. Thank you so much for choosing me. Thank you so much for trusting me. If you start doing that, you open the door of appreciation. That person definitely feel that. To make sure they feel appreciated, you can send a quick message or if you can do it, handwriting cards are always welcome. You know, even though your handwriting is messy, doesn't really matter. Your action, your gesture that you appreciate them for the business or for the support, they want to do something back to you. They may bring you other clients as well. So show your appreciation anytime, any chance you take it. What you appreciate appreciates. If you appreciate clients, the numbers of clients will appreciate. So today, let's stay in this beautiful energy of community and soak ourselves into this joy, sense of peace, sense of security. With that intention, I want to share this with you today. I grow my wealth by growing and nurturing my relationships. As you say that whose face is coming to your mind and just uh remember and appreciate them. You may meet new people soon and they will bring you more abundance and joy. So by nurturing the relationships you have, you can grow and your finance and business grow too. As you hear from today's speakers, listen for ideas that invite more love, trust, and collaboration into your life. So let's start today. So I'll give you a quick meditation about releasing your negative emotions. So I was talking about guilt, distrust and resentment against money. So we feel uneasy about money. So just close your eyes for one second and take a deep breath and look at money. It could be physical. It could be bank statement online. What kinds of feeling pops up between the money and you? Is that dark energy? Is that green, yellow? Whatever the energy it carries, just put them in a box. As you have more negative feelings, just send them out. If you feel something funny in your heart, take them out and then put them in the box. As you breathe deeply in and out, all the negative energies around money will be sent to this box and ask for a money angel for help for fun. And then just imagine this money angels are taking the box and the money angel gives you peace sign and then take it up to heaven. As a few money angels are bringing up lifting up the box your negative feeling box you feel much lighter more happy and more peaceful. So as they are going up and up and up up and you cannot see you feel you're more together more peaceful and you feel life is good. One more deep breath. When you're ready come back. Okay. How was it? So let's continue. Thank you, Ken, for opening up so courageously, so vulnerably, and letting us learn from your story. That was quite something. And I'm curious everyone who listened to this session, what came up for you? Was there a particular story in your past? Maybe a memory. And by the way, if you want to share in the chat what you have gone through as well, please feel free to do so. If you do, I acknowledge your courage and your vulnerability. If you are not ready to share, that's completely fine as well. Just take a notebook, maybe write down what came up for you because all the emotions and memories you had, they are legitimate. And it really reminds me that wealth is about emotional freedom. You know, it's not just numbers in a bank account because money carries emotional energy, right? Like Ken said, it can bring you happiness. It can bring you joy, so much excitement. But at the same time without awareness, it can become a source for suffering, for stress, for misery. And um many people carry money trauma around uh not knowing that it's not their fault. It they they inherited from their family, maybe their culture or particular painful experiences. They never got a chance to heal. But we can choose to heal today. So I want to invite you all to commit to this healing. Start healing your relationship with money by acknowledging those emotions and choosing gratitude over fear. Now with that said, I also want to remind you all that Ken and I have something very special planned for you guys. So let me share my screen quickly. So, what we want to do for you all is to invite you guys to a 3-day workshop uh that's happening later in the month. So, it's about 2 weeks from now, and it'll be on June 16th to 18th from 9 to 11:00 a.m. Eastern time. This is an online workshop uh where we're going to teach you, Ken's going to teach you actually about how to find those hidden money wounds that are holding you back that maybe is not really at the surface of your consciousness and start discovering your happy money eeky guy and rise above your fate to step into your abundant destiny. Now this is a workshop that we will charge people but you all are automatically enrolled for free as a thank you gift for trusting us to commit your time to this summit to all the wonderful speakers here and to commit to your personal growth. So uh don't worry we'll send you some emails about this but I just want to remind you guys that um Ken is very excited to share this with you all. Now, with that being said, let's shake it up a bit because our next speaker, uh, how I describe him, he has the energy of adventure, of fearlessness, of confidence, and he's known for that, for helping people overcome self-doubt and getting into action even if they're afraid. But the fun thing is that he used to be a young Polish kid who couldn't even speak English and was severely bullied in school. And so he was an introvert and a shy person who now became an award-winning educator, an entrepreneur and speaker around the world working with Fortune 500 companies as well. He is none other than Jimmy Narrain, whose courses have almost half a million students around the world. So what happened was after working with Goldman Sachs, he realized that that wasn't the path that would bring him joy. So he decided to become an entrepreneur and now he has traveled to over 83 countries. Explored by the way not just like going to an airport but he properly explored every single country and he trains Muay Thai with world champions. He hiked the Himalayas. He explored Colombian jungles and does ice baths in frozen lakes with Wimhof. And he does all these things because he wants to. So, he's living a truly wealthy life on his terms, and he's doing all that while running his business full-time. So, now he's passionate about helping people rewrite the scripts in their minds of quote unquote, "I am not ready." So, please give a big round of applause to welcome on stage, Jimmy Rain. Hello everyone. Welcome to this segment of the Happy Wealth Summit. And my next guest is someone who really gets my adrenaline up in all the healthy ways possible. Jimmy Narrain. He has explored over 80 countries while helping over 500,000 people. That's half a million people around the world upgrade their mindset, their resilience, and their confidence through platforms like Mind Valley and Udemy. You know, he blends adventure with education, and that's why he has trained with world champions, explored the Himalayas on multiple occasions, and even jumped into frozen waterfalls with Wimhof. These experiences are not just adrenalinefueled stunts though because for him they're deeply shaping his understanding of courage and mental strength which he now's channels into mentoring elite performers, entrepreneurs and many public figures. And even the Oscar-winning producer James Scotchup calls him a teaching savant. And Mine Valley's founder Vision Lakani noted that Jimmy's talks received the second highest rating among over a hundred speakers at their signature event, Mine Valley University. And that's why I'm so excited to invite Jimmy to our session today. Jimmy, welcome and thanks for your time. Thank you so much, brother. I'm really happy to call you a brother. It's been many years that we've known each other. I think we are doing this for the first time live, right? First time we are doing an actual podcast together. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is. And you know, you have so many stories to share and so many life experiences. So, I think people can really learn a lot from you today. Why don't we jump straight into it? So, you know what? Like, when you when you mention my bio, right, it's interesting cuz it sounds it sounds so glamorous, but as I'm listening to it, I kind of I can't help but almost crush myself. Who the hell is this guy that you are talking about? Right? Who is that person? And the reason is that what people don't see is the other side of the coin, right? Like a lot of the times when we see people out there on podcasts on different stages, we assume that it's been always easy for them that they have something that we don't have, but in reality, there is a lot of struggle that's behind all of those things that I I've done in my life. Right? That's what people don't know. struggles with anxiety, with panic attacks, with feeling not good enough, with low self-esteem, with poverty. So, I just want to put it out there because bios sound amazing, but there's always the dark side. And you know this, right? You know this. We we we are good friends, so we know each other's stories and um you know, as you climbing your mountain, there are a lot of there are a lot of roadblocks along the way. So, just wanted to put it out there. Yeah. Thanks. You know, I love how real you are and this is something I really appreciate about you too because you rub shoulders with very successful and wealthy people in all rights and you still are able to stay so grounded in what is true for you. Right. So I really want to ask someone who has lived in over 80 countries. What is it now? Is it 84? 84 countries. 86. I haven't lived in all of them but I explored. Yeah. You explored them, right? Yeah. You live in some of them, you explore others and you're traveling all around to to deliver speeches as well. You know, what has this lifestyle taught you about freedom, about enoughness, about, you know, living richly without always chasing more? And may I even say about true wealth? That is a great question. How much time do we have? Do we have like 3 hours? No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Listen, like the main thing I've learned and and this is why I feel like everyone should travel, especially to developing countries. I've learned that um as we are chasing wealth, we are chasing more and more and more actually very basic things in life matter. Things that we tend to take for granted things like your health, right? Your friends, your your family members, um peace of mind. These are currencies that we normally don't consider. Now, obviously creating financial wealth is important, right? Money is energy and and that energy allows you to experience more and of course it allows you to travel. But what I've learned is that there are a lot of people out there who have very little and they're very happy with it. Of course, they want more, but but they're very happy where they are. And sometimes as we pursue wealth, we get lost. And this happens, you know, this this happens to a lot of people, right? 10th fancy watch, fifth car, seventh house, and there's still the void deep inside. And you're wondering, how will I finally fill the void? And the more you chase and the more you buy, it almost feels like there is more void. So what I've learned during my travels is that at least for me, the winning combination, I feel like for a lot of people, it could be the same thing. The winning combination is creating financial wealth for yourself, but also maintaining a balance and never forgetting that little things matter. And and you know without getting too deep into that rabbit hole because again we could talk about it for hours. Uh I feel like it is important to reset your frame of reference regularly. So for example if I stay in a fivestar hotel for 10 nights in a row right and I drive a really cool car. Maybe I I get a cabriio drive around get a nice watch right? Go to fancy dinners. I then want to reset my frame of reference on purpose and maybe I'm going to spend some time traveling through Cambodia, right? Or going to smaller provinces in Brazil and living in guest houses, even if it's just for a day or maybe not a day, couple of days, right? Because that's when you realize initially there's a shock. Wow. Where where's the fancy hotel? Where is where's the fast Wi-Fi? Where's my watch? Where's my car? But within literally I would say two three days you adjust and you realize you know what that stuff is not as important as I thought what I really crave is um being present with those amazing people that I have the privilege to now call friends right that's what it's really about so I feel like life is really about going through those ups and downs but rather than just waiting for life to provide those you want to engineer those situations where you get to appreciate more by creating a situation where you purposely have less if that makes sense. Okay. Okay. Actually, I'm I'm very curious about one thing about you just by listening to you talk because you talk about engineering uh opportunities, right? And we we both know and it's also public on the internet that you used to be an incredibly shy person. You were from Poland, right? And you didn't even speak English. You're incredibly shy. Um and look at you now. You're an international speaker. You have all these amazing connections and all these amazing collaborations, right? Um, how did that happen? How did confidence, not just money, open doors for you to so many opportunities and so much abundance in your life? Interesting. Great question. By the way, I may have overcome the the uh fear of public speaking, but you know, the faking of karaoke still keeps me up at night, man. I have to tell you. Especially go to I recently went to Japan with a bunch of nomads and just you know let's do karaoke. I'm like start sweating but it's interesting right? Yes. You know nowadays I present on different stages I I've managed to to build real core confidence. It wasn't always like this right I used to suffer a lot when you grow up in Poland. Just a bit of backstory when you grow up in Poland and you are a mixed race kid right your your father's from Guyana your mom is Polish. Um, and when kids remind you all the time that you are different, when they literally they ask you, hey, when will you go back to your country, why is your name Jimmyi? And you get to the point where you have to lie and you have to say, and I I don't think I I even told you this, man, but sometimes I had to lie and I had to say that the reason my name is Jimmy is because my parents just were ma making some jokes, you know? They they they were just play playful. And the reason was that if some of the huligans in my town found out that my father wasn't from Poland, I would be in a big trouble. There were a lot of hooligans back then in Poland, right? So, you know, when you long story short, right, when you when you go through those types of situations, you feel suppressed all the time. You feel constricted. You feel like you are not good enough. And it's weird because deep inside you feel like you are capable of great things. There's that inner voice that tells you you can make something out of yourself, but you cannot externalize it. Right now, building confidence was a big journey for me and and it would be amazing to say, listen, I I found the winning process and I went through it and suddenly I became the most confident person on the planet. It doesn't work like that. You go for ups and downs. You know from your own journey that you build your confidence, things are going well and then you go for a breakup, right? or maybe business-wise something doesn't work and your confidence suffers. So, one one thing I've learned is that um confidence, self-esteem are the most important things you can work on to build a better future for yourself. But you have to build those things understanding that they are not static. Just because you get it to the next level doesn't mean that you will remain there. Just like with training, I'm here in Malaysia. I just got here cuz I'm about to do the Iron Man race. And I tell you what, when you train for this and with any other type of training, you have to accept that when you stop training because of injury, because of sickness or anything else, you will be getting worse, right? And and you may have a situation where you come back from sickness and you can't recognize yourself because you are so weak. And that's how it also works with confidence, right? By the way, a lot of people kind of misunderstand confidence and self-esteem and self-acceptance and self-worth, right? And self-image like they're these are all different things. We kind of simplify it by saying confidence but I feel like it's so important to first of all work on your selfworth. So this inherent this inherent uh idea that you are worthy that you are good enough. Marissa if you are our mutual friend right she she uh always talks about right you have to know that you are good enough right so that's this inherent feeling but then you also have to work on your self-esteem how you see yourself do you appreciate yourself and then you need to work on your confidence which is essentially the belief you know and your overall ability to make things happen that's really what it is right and what I've learned in my life is that um you can make all the money in the world you can titles. You can people could give you anything and everything and and without those things you won't be able to go far because you will end up sabotaging yourself. So working working on those components is so so important man. Change that. Yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah, it's a really good point about sabotage because you know I'm sure many people out there they kind of know what to do or they know the direction they need to go at but they are in their own way right. They sabotage their own journey, their own wealth even. Uh, and did you ever experience something like that? Oh, great question. Yes, of course I did. Yes, I did. And you know, it's it's it's weird to talk about it because but I I'll be I'll be rock here. I've got to share with you some crazy stuff that happened to me. I I feel like, you know, because this summit is about wealth, I feel like this is going to be important for people to to hear because you can have all the tools in the book about generating wealth, but it's not going to matter if you sabotage yourself. if you hit your artificial ceiling and basically knock yourself out back to the ground zero or below. Right? So, long story short, I give you one example, right? When I was my my my 20s, right? I was roughly I was 20 24 25 years old, something like that. I made my first decent money. I already decided that working for Goldman Sachs wasn't for me. Then I went to startup company. It wasn't for me. I decided to build a business, right? And this was the time when I started generating decent revenue. It was the first time when I felt when I felt wealthy, especially a kid coming from Poland. I would travel the world. Um I would experience the types of things that didn't seem possible. But I tell you what, and this is a weird thing to share, but I was partying partying like a maniac. I was drinking way too much alcohol and way too often. I was that guy at 4:00 a.m. who would say, "Come on, don't close the club after party at my place." And by the way, shots on me. I was that guy. I was I was going overboard. And so I was doing that. And I was also, for whatever reason, sabotaging deals. Somebody wanted to offer me a deal, I would find a way to screw it up. I wouldn't respond on time. Um I would overgotiate, right? Uh there was always something that would happen. Now, fast forward many years and through a lot of experiences that I had, you know, a ton of meditation and altered consciousness experiences, just journaling and working on myself. I realized that all of that can be backtracked to when I was a kid. When I So, when I was a kid, long story short, I'm going to make it short, right? I know we don't have that much time. So, we lived in this tiny flat infested with cockroaches and my parents were medical doctors. Now, when you see medical doctors who studied for all of those years to then make enough money to live in a tiny flat, we knew the cockroaches lived in the in the sofa, but we couldn't get rid of it cuz we had no money for a different sofa. Man, it was wild. Now, what I didn't know as a kid was that secretly my parents, and by the way, kudos to them. They really did their best, right? They were saving up money to get a better place. And one day, and this is this was amazing. One day they took us to this duplex apartment in a different city and in a nice part of that city and we entered and we assumed it's maybe their friend's house and at some point they said kids this is our place now. We don't need to leave this place. Wow. And man, I couldn't believe it's it's was one of those I I can't even explain it. It's like a like a dream. It's it's it's I I cannot explain the emotion. It was incredible, right? From that neighborhood infested with cockroaches and also hooligans, right? To then coming to this place. But then fast forward a couple of years, my parents sat me down and my brother and they explained, "Listen kids, we cannot afford this place. Sorry, but we have to go back to a small place. Not the same one, but another small place. You cannot go to the same school anymore because we cannot afford it. You will go to this massive public school." So overnight, my life changed. Now listen, I'm not going to I'm not, you know, I'm not going to try to make it dramatic. It's not like I was being shot at, right? Many other people have way worse situations. But to a kid, that's the only reference you have. You don't know that other kids in in Rwanda or Sir Young or Cambodia or on the streets of Brazil are experiencing worse things. You know what you know, and everything is relative. So you you compare your new reality to what you had. Why am I sharing this story with you? Because back then I linked a tre and this and I really encourage any viewer listener to think about their own journey and ask themselves if they had a similar situation. What I've learned at that early age is to associate a tremendous amount of pain to losing money. Losing money, losing material things means tremendous amounts of pain. Now my question for you is Zen brother, what is the best way not to lose money? Best way not to lose money is not to be afraid of it. Yeah. No, but like No, but if you sabotage yourself, how could you sabotage yourself so you don't get into a situation so you never never lose money? So you don't fear losing money? You just hoard everything. you just don't spend on anything. Okay. So, that's one way. That's Yes. Some people do that. That's one one way. And then they end up they they they end up not investing in opportunities, not investing in experiences. And then they get maybe diagnosed with something and and they realize, wow, I've got maybe one year to live. I haven't lived my dream. So, that's one extreme. I went into the other extreme. And it's actually good you mentioned this cuz cuz you know, if you didn't mention this, we wouldn't have talked about it. And I'm sure some people can resonate. I went to the extreme of in order not to lose money, I'm going to either sabotage myself from making it because if I don't make it, I cannot lose it. That's why I would sabotage deals. And the second thing I did, whatever money I was already making, I would spend right away. And the reason I was doing this subconsciously is because if I spend it right away, it feels like it's not even mine. And anybody who has ever found any amount of cash on a floor randomly, you know what I'm talking about. Or if you ever won any money in a casino, oh, I just won 2K. Ah, it's play money. And the next thing you know, you spend it right away. Cuz hey, easy come, easy go. That's what I was doing. This is why no matter how much I was making, I would find a way to get rid of it. buying shots for strangers, staying in overly luxurious five-star hotels, and doing all types of weird things. And once I recognized that, man, my reality changed. I'm telling you, it completely shifted. But it's a process. It's a process. It's a demon you have to That's a Yeah, that's that's powerful, though. So, you know, after you've done this for so long, right, I'm curious, you know, for anyone who may suddenly resonate with this right now, regardless of what they're earning, right? Because Yeah. uh it's not about the amount of income you have every month. You can still have these kind of behaviors right now. Um how can they start healing that? Well, first of that's a great question. But first of all, to heal something, you have to be aware of it. Correct. And and just like with supplements nowadays, there's a big talk and I and I agree with this notion. There's a big talk out there that rather than buying a ton of supplements just because they are branded well, you first have to identify what are you deficient in, right? Because otherwise you may be popping a ton of magnesium and zinc, but then when you do a blood work, you realize you actually have too much zinc in your system. And this happens all the time and it happened to me. I'm guilty of this myself only recently start realizing well, you have to first of all identify the identify the problem. Then you want to fix it. So here I feel like nowadays the the big issue in personal development is people over consuming without intentionality. It's almost like mental masturbation. That's really what it is a lot of the times, right? Just consuming, consuming, consuming. I I I I'll get another book. I'll watch another thing without really asking ourselves, okay, hold on a second. What is my problem? What is the thing that I need to fix in my life? So here first of all it's self-awareness and self-awareness won't happen overnight. Sometimes it does by the way sometimes it does you you know you do a great meditation session maybe or maybe have a conversation with someone or maybe you do a long swim and bam it hits you but but for the most part it just takes a lot of consistency and and digging deep into into what makes you tick and it's uncomfortable man. And you know this I know you you've done a ton of internal work. Yeah, I know you've done a ton of internal work, so you know exactly how it is. You just have to do it. You have to be aware. And when demons show up, our natural instinct is to run away from them. But it's important not to run away from them. For example, a lot of people when it comes to cash finances, a lot of people um don't want to see their own accounts. I've seen this, right? I've been there myself. A lot of people don't want to go on their own bank accounts. They would rather be oblivious to how they are doing and assume everything is okay. If you have that feeling that is that should be a trigger for you. Hold on a second. There is some block. I need to face it head on. If I have a block from actually seeing the reality of my finances, I got to bite the bullet and I got to go in there. And yes, maybe you'll realize that you are actually in debt overall. you realize, wow, I've got seven credit cards and I think right, that I have money, but actually I'm in debt. You know, that is better than lying to yourself because now you have the awareness, now you can do something about it, right? And there are a lot of other examples we could talk about here, but I feel like self-awareness is the key and once you have that only then you can start working on improvement. I think you're touching upon Yeah, I think you're touching upon something very important here. And since you've mentored so many people around the world, right? I do want to ask you this one thing. You know, it's it's one thing to finally understand why self-awareness is important and also start to have an awareness around what makes you uncomfortable. Because in order to really generate wealth in your life, you have to do uncomfortable things, right? If you want a better body, better health, you're going to do certain things uncomfortable when it comes to your diet, when it comes to your your physical body, right? Exercise. If you want to grow your business, you have to do some things maybe uncomfortable. Maybe do something you've never done before. Maybe spend a bit more money on your advertising. Maybe do something new so that organically you can reach the people that are meant to see your work. Now, there's a logical understanding of that, but what about the emotional part? Because Jimmy, let's be real, right? There are many people out there probably now think yeah I know that now I know what's uncomfortable but I'm still frozen in place by the fear or the discomfort of discomfort you know what do you have to say to them that is an interesting one it's a tough one and that's a that's a great question because this happens to a lot of people yes you can intellectually understand something then to actually go for it and do it is is tricky what I like to do is whenever I I whenever I experience discomfort whenever I experience fear fear, anxiety about something. And of course, I do. I'm just a human being. I always like to kind of flip it on its head and and use fear and use discomfort and use anxiety to my advantage. But but what I mean by flipping it on its head is you want to start focusing on the discomfort that you will feel if you don't make a change. A lot of people don't consider this. And a good example is actually physical fitness, being healthy. This is a great example that everyone can resonate with. I heard it so many times. People said, "Well, I wish I could be healthy like you, but I just don't have the discipline. Blah, blah, blah. I'm not willing to pay the price." And I'm like, "Well, you're going to pay the price one day." And that's that's the sub truth. And you know, we live in this world of people being overly politically correct and no one wants to tell people the hard truths anymore. But in reality, that's what it is, right? you're not willing to pay the price um every day in terms of nutrition, in terms of embracing physical fitness. Doesn't have to be anything crazy, you know. It doesn't have to be doing a marathon or doing an Iron Man ride or doing some crazy things. It could be literally going for a jog for 15, 20 minutes, doing yoga, doing whatever works for you, but doing something. Well, guess what? You don't pay this price on a daily basis. Fast forward, you will end up paying that price. Uh, and I'm I'm talking emotionally, health-wise, but also in medical bills. And people don't consider that. That's why a lot of the times, you know, one of the things that I teach is productivity. And people get surprised, but one of the things that I teach is one of the best productivity tools and one of the best business tools is actually taking care of your health. Because if you don't do that, well, guess what? It takes a lot of time. And we've all been sick and you know this. It takes a lot of time and a lot of wasted opportunities to be sick. When you're sick, you cannot work, right? When you're recovering, you cannot jump on a call like this and be sharp between your ears. You can't. If I was recovering from sickness, I couldn't speak to you right now, right? I couldn't be going to business meetings. You couldn't be recording. So, so there, right? So, sickness, being unhealthy costs you the mo the most uh in so many different ways, right? So, so that's something people don't consider. And what I like to do is I like to always flip things on their head. And uh I I tell you actually weird situations. It's one of my actually probably probably my first like a proper coaching that I've ever done. And this was back in the day. I I think I was man I was like I was 20 years old or something like that. I was working for Alias. I was already so I was already studying in the UK but I had a company set up in Poland and I was working as an insurance agent with aliens right so I was kind of doing that thing I had clients but I was working I was studying in the UK so it was kind of a weird setup right kind of my own little entrepreneurship journey and uh I did coaching with this one slightly older lady and she had weight issues right she couldn't lose weight and man I'll say something that could trigger a lot of people. But here we go. Right here we go. I'll say this. Uh if you need to if you need to cut it out, just cut it out. It's not that terrible, but nowadays people are really sensitive. She tried to she tried to lose weight. And what I did, we had three-hour session and I made her visualize and she didn't know where I was going with it. I made her visualize that her kids were getting diabetes and that her kids were that her kids were were were just getting really sick and and the pain that it would cause her to know that this happened. And then what she didn't know was common in that visualization at some point I said and by the way guess what it's your fault it's your fault and she started crying and I said to her but I just kept going said you know why it's your fault because you are the one who is giving them the example. They see you overeating. They see you making wrong decisions. They see you not exercising. Guess what? You can tell your kids whatever you want them to do, but they'll take cues from your behavior. You lead your kids through osmosis. The same way as leaders in our organizations, we lead people through osmosis. Not about what you say, it's about how you act. And people take cues from how you act. The same way you, you know, your kids will emulate you. And man, it was emotionally hard. But guess what? She lost all the weight. She lost I mean she lost all the weight one session and she never went back to that because we created a a profound neuro association in her mind uh between you know eating unhealthy and that tremendous pain of her kids suffering. Therefore she would be suffering. Some people say man you gone way too far with this. This is terrible. Let me ask you what is better experiencing a little discomfort in the moment or literally having that reality of you not being able to overcome that challenge of being unhealthy, being overweight and then your kids following following you. U I feel like we need to use fear and anxiety to our advantage and and when you teach yourself to do that incredible things happen because showing up every day whether it's fitness whether it's your finances whether it's building a business showing up right what you guys are doing now with Ken it's great right but it takes a lot of commitment showing up becomes your non-negotiable and I know you well enough to know that for you And it doesn't matter how you feel. You know that you committed. You and Ken, you have your partnership and you decided we are doing this. There's a deadline. That's it. And I don't care if I don't feel good today. I don't care if limiting belief is slapping me in the face cuz maybe one of your guests maybe never talked to that person. Maybe used to read their books and they kind of intimidate you. It doesn't matter. Zen is a pro and Zen is going to show up when he needs to show up. And that's the mindset. That's the mindset. non-negotiable. So, so that's really what is what is all about, right? Using fear, using anxiety in the right way and building the mindset of certain things being non-negotiable and then creating those daily habits and creating systems and that's it. You have a system, you follow the system. I think you touch upon something that uh many people need to hear because the reality is that fear is there, right? And it is an emotion that we have. you know, if it didn't serve a purpose, then our gene pool would have rooted it out ages ago, right? The fact that we're still here means our ancestors survived. So, there's there's some relevancy there. And the key is not to avoid it. It's to, you know, use it in the correct way like you said, right? Because if we avoid something, then it could grow without us knowing. It could it could fester, right? It could start affecting us and our belief systems and our behaviors without us even knowing. That's actually worse, you know? So having that awareness is is actually powerful and I'm really glad you brought that up. Now talking about non-negotiables, I am also curious if there's a connection with belief system because I know that one of the non-negotiables for you is that you actually consciously raise your standards in life while staying grateful. And you mentioned to me before that this is a key to attracting abundance. Can you can you unpack that a bit for us? That is actually a great question. We could we so we could go different direction directions with this. I'm glad you as within your budget. Okay. Just to be clear within within your within conscious spending, right? You're not like spending crazy things. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, 100%. I So, I feel like yes, we got to be So, a couple of things, right? You got to be grateful with what you have, but at the same time, you got to be hungry for more. And uh and I feel like this combination is great, right? This competition is great, but sometimes you know people assume that in order to get more, you have to first um get to that point, but a lot of the times what actually happens is it's almost you have to first see it before it happens. And this is why there are a lot of stories out there of people doing viewings on houses that they couldn't afford and then suddenly becomes a reality because your nervous system adapts like like for example um I give I give you a random example right uh this is going to be a kind of a weird one but a few years ago I remember that whenever I saw a Rolex dealership or Patrick Phipe or one of those companies man I was curious I would kind of get a bit closer to the window. But I had that mentality from Poland of, hey, I'm not welcomed there. This is not my place. That's for the rich people. That's not for me. I'm I come from Poland. And I'll just kind of have a look, but I wouldn't dare to enter. And then at some point, I'm like, let me just enter one of those places. And it felt utterly uncomfortable. Utterly uncomfortable. I I I almost felt like I almost felt like people knew I was a fraud. Like I I shouldn't be there. But it's interesting because eventually I went to one of those stores and I asked them, "Hey, um can I try this one?" And you almost expect they'll say, "Sorry, you can't try those watches on, but they said sure." You know, and they give you one and you're very delicate. You super careful and you try it on and you're like, "Wow, holy sh I can't believe, you know, I I have so much money on my wrist." But it's interesting what happens, right? You do it a couple of times and your nervous system adapts and suddenly it starts feeling normal. And the next thing you know, you you walk in and you say, "Hey, what's going on? Listen, do you have this? Do you have that? Oh, oh, you don't have it. All right, cool. What about this? Oh, exposition only. Let me try this. They Oh, Daytona. Let me try this." And you start trying them on as if you're expected to be there and you really believe in it. And it's so interesting because when that happens, your brain doesn't really know the difference between you being able to afford it or not. You are there, therefore, you probably should be there. So, what's interesting is then when you have a negotiation with some client, maybe normally you would say uh well, it's going to be um uh uh it's going to be uh uh $2,000, right? And you kind of say it cheap sheepishly and now something shifted and you say, "Well, my rate start at 5,000." and you you can't believe you said it, but you find yourself saying it with a straight face. And then even better, what happens next is is something you you you wouldn't have expected. They simply say, "Sure, this sounds fair. Okay. Uh let's do it." You know, do you do you do bank transfer? Do do you do PayPal? And and and you are trying to keep straight face because you can't believe what just happened, right? So So you know, that's what I like to do. So, for example, you know, getting a nice watch, like getting getting this type of watch, right? I feel like a lot of people say, "This is a waste of money. Why would you spend so much money on a watch?" I feel like a lot of the times buying things like this can actually propel us forward because a lot of the times we have this mental block like in my life, I know I had a mental block coming from Poland that it's um it's shameful to have materialistic things. This is why for so many years I would have no problem spending a lot of money on crazy adventures going to Antarctica, right? Going into the Himalayas, those adventures are expensive. Uh but I would have no problem because I would rationalize, well, this is experience. I'm going to shoot videos for my audience. It I can justify it. But having a nice car or having a fancy watch, I couldn't justify it. I felt guilty. I felt guilty. you know, walking on the street and you see poverty and you you carry a watch that someone's I don't know two three years salary. This is wrong. But but but it's interesting what happens when you buy one and you realize no this is not wrong. You can still help other people. In fact, when you do that, when it rewires your brain for more wealth, the more wealth you have, the more you can help. And another thing, very simple, very short example, but actually encourage people to try this. It depends on your wealth level at the moment. But I if if you are if you are trying to level up in business and you fly here and there from time to time I encourage everyone within reason whenever it's possible try to get that business class upgrade just try it for yourself right try it if you know just ask them if you don't ask you don't get and sometimes you may have a situation where you may be surprised they may tell you oh actually we have availability and it's $400 for the upgrade. And now you realize that on your 8 hour flight you pay 400 bucks and you get lie flat seat on a good airline and sometimes it's really worth doing it. But then rather than getting into business class and just watching movies and drinking champagne and wasting your time, you want to devour this experience. You want to lie down there. You want to open your laptop. You want to journal. You want to think about your perfect day. By the way, we we've done the perfect day back in the day in the Canary Islands together, my brother, many many years ago. I think seven years ago, something like that. We've done that together. But, you know, writing down your perfect day, thinking about your goals, writing down the types of people you would want to befriend in the future, maybe now seem out of reach and and meditating and and doing a lot of work on yourself. But I tell you what, that flight that you end up paying four, five, 600 bucks extra for could be one of your biggest investments. Because again, your nervous system is like, hold on a second. This seemed impossible. This seemed like it's only for the rich people, for people who made it. But I am here now. And now you're thinking about your vision. You're thinking about your perfect day in the future. You're thinking about the things you want to have, you want to do, you want to be. Oh, well, guess what? I guess we are already there. We are already there. So now you step into your power. Now you start attracting different types of people. You carry yourself differently. You have a different aura. Now listen, it won't last last forever, right? But but the more experiences like this you stack up, the the more power you will have. So it's it's a weird thing, but it's similar to what people don't understand is that in business, if you want to make more money, you have to spend money, right? You may be afraid to spend money on employees. Guess what? You want to level up in business, you got to pay people to help you to make two plus two equal not four but maybe 44 or 200, right? You want to create synergy, but you do it by spending. So, anyhow, I could talk for five hours about this. I'm going to stop myself. You have a lot you have a lot of wisdom, Jimmy. Love it. Love it. No, you're absolutely right. Right. Like if we don't allow I hope this makes sense. No, no, it's great because what you're saying essentially it's allowing money to flow. You know, if I think of money like a river, right? If money stagnates in a pond, what happens in still water? Bacteria starts to breed, right? The water goes bad, right? But when the water gets to flow, you get to, you know, bring in new new streams and new um opportunities, new people, like you said, and money needs to flow so that it comes back greater. This is how we believe. So, what you just described is that, you know, it's almost like manifestation through intentional spending. That's what I'm hearing, right? identity shift through that and and it's true. So it's not about randomly spending money. It's about really being conscious about oh if I invest in this watch to signify that I'm stepping into a new identity. Imagine how you see the world. And I know you mentioned that before about how the reality is merely an illusion. It's all up to us. Now I would love to dive into that. But I do have a question though because by the way it used to be before we switch gears I just need to make a disclaimer here to really make it extra clear what we are talking about you said yourself intentional spending this is so important I I want to make it clear I don't prescribe to this idea of take your credit card and just buy a whole bunch of stuff because you you know you will attract no please don't do that it's about picking your shots at the right moments I just have to say this this is so important because a lot of people get it wrong and and you know and there's a lot of charlatans out there who tell you just to get in debt and just spend on materialistic things cuz you will eventually get it back like be responsible but also when you spent intentionally what you want to do ideally you asked me before about not feeling comfortable doing the things you have to do. Ideally you want to link those things up. So ask yourself what you got to do to take yourself to the next level. Create some type of a milestone and then reward yourself for that milestone. That is the ideal thing. It feels so much better when you buy a new car, a watch or on a smaller scale, upgrade yourself to business or or give yourself a nice holiday or even on a smaller scale, a nice 3hour spa session. It feels so much better when you know you've done this because you've just completed 10,000 page. Yeah. Sorry, 10,000 pages. That would be a lot. 10,000 words of your new book, for instance, right? Or or maybe you're building a course and you've just finished the first draft. Or or right? Or it could be anything. Or perhaps you want to get back in shape and you've just logged in the first 150 kilometers of jogging over time and and and that's a milestone and you're going to reward yourself. That's when it hits better. But I just wanted to put it out there. Be responsible with your money. Keep that balance, right? Beautiful. Beautiful. I love it. And you know, I want to ask about asking because again, from someone who was so shy before, I'm just imagining the amount of reps, the amount of, you know, tries need to take to get to your mastery today. And you're someone who is not afraid to ask. And at the same time, you ask with an art of mastery. So, I'm very curious when it comes to asking. Like you said, we all know that if you don't ask, you won't receive, right? Can we go deeper than that? Like when it comes to really asking, you know, beyond asking the universe from a law of attraction standpoint, like how how do you approach asking for opportunities for, you know, favors and whatnot? It's interesting you said I have no problem asking because I actually man actually I'm probably a textbook person for having issues with asking for help in in in fact in fact I tell you what when I did my Iaska experience many years ago um long story short I I couldn't feel anything and then they kept giving me an extra dose and an extra dose And at some point it hit me so hard. That was the moment when I stopped wondering about how everyone else is doing. And I asked that shaman for help cuz I did not know what was happening. And that was kind of a breaking point that that I needed. So for many years I had a major issue with asking for help. And I feel like it comes back to childhood, feeling like maybe I'm not good enough and and also meeting people who are a bit too sleazy and trying to get too much for themselves. I never wanted to be that person. But what I've learned over the years is that if you don't teach yourself how to ask, whether it's universe or whether it's someone else, you actually don't give people the opportunity to give to you. And if you like to give to other people and contribute, well, you should give other people that opportunity. So, for instance, you may be meeting an old friend and maybe you're doing very well financially and that person is unemployed now. Sure, you buy the dinner, but let that person get you coffee next day. Don't insist it's always on you, right? Because by letting that person buy that cup of coffee, you know, five bucks won't change their lives now. It won't won't damage them. But the feeling they'll get, the feeling of abundance, as weird as it sounds, that they will get from being able to buy you a cup of coffee is worth so much more than five bucks. Um, now it's tricky, right? So, so that's one part to it. And again, we could go so many different directions here, but specifically in terms of asking other people for help, right? What I've learned, what I've learned, and we chatted about it a little bit, right? I know you've been around extremely successful people and and I really feel like you're very good with that as well cuz I've seen you we have mutual friends and I've seen you in those situations. I I noticed that the commonality between people who who get help and who end up doing business and befriending high-profile people. The commonality is that there is no hidden agenda and before the ask comes there is a genuine contribution. Um but I say genuine I'm not talking about what became really popular nowadays is people meet you and they haven't even they don't even know your name yet but they say how can I support you? How can I help you? And you can sense that it's it's just it's it's bas it's it's it's playing on that reciprocity. It's like, "Oh, hi Jimmy. Great to meet you, brother. Brother, how can I help help you? Can I how can I support you? Please tell me. I really want to support you." But you know, when it's not authentic, I know already that the only reason you are saying this is so tomorrow you can ask me to introduce you to so and so, right? And and get you this or lend you money or whatever, right? So, and and people are smart. People have a sixth sense. People can sense when there is a hidden agenda. So I feel like number one mistake you can make is asking way too quickly and just making it about yourself. What you also don't want to do is you don't want to completely forget about yourself and never ask. I feel like the sweet spot is showing up and genuinely assuming that I'm I'm going to meet this person and I'm I'm not going to try to get anything and if I don't get absolutely anything from this relationship, I'm completely fine with this. I'm I'm going to connect with this person for the sake of connection. So whether it's a a bathroom cleaner or a billionaire, it doesn't matter. I'm connecting with that person on a human level. Whatever comes out of it is going to come out of it. Like that's the first step and then the second step is contributing something and and everyone has a different thing to contribute. Now one of the biggest mistakes that people make is they assume they have nothing to contribute. Um, and this actually happened to me a bunch of times where people would and I had some, man, I had some bad situations in the past where people would try to keep getting and getting and getting from me. And when I confronted them like, "Hey man, like you just keep asking me for stuff. What's going on?" They would kind of, some of them would say, "I just assume there's nothing I could give you cuz it seems like you've got everything you need." But what people don't realize is that everyone is a human and everyone needs something. You just have to be creative. So for example, um when you're dealing with someone who is maybe a high-profile person, makes decent amounts of money, has all types of level of success, you may feel like that person doesn't need much. Well, guess what? Why not actually give them a book review? Why not take one of their long- form videos and play play around with some AI software and make like the most badass reel you can possibly create and say, "You know what? I wanted to surprise you with this. Use it however you want, right? Like there's so many different ways that that you could help someone or you know, you read someone's book or you watch their course or or you watch their podcast and you say, "You know what? uh I broke down your book and here are a couple of things that I think you could implement in your next one or whatever, right? Like whatever it is, there's always value you can provide facil facilitating introductions, um offering help with, you know, listen, I I know you're very busy. If you need anybody to help you with X, Y, and Z, I'd love to jump on board and help you. By the way, no strings attached. I I love your work. There's always something you can do, but people just assume, well, I'm just going to ask. No, first ask yourself how you can give, how you can contribute. And once you do that, and again, you have absolutely no agenda, that's when people who are in positions of power will try to get out of their own way to help you. And it may not come after a week or after a month. It may come two years from now, but eventually it's going to come. And it may not come from everyone, but it's going to come from someone. But I feel like it's this mindset of abundance of if I meet a 100 people, I'm going to help 100 people in some way. And you know what? 80 of them may not help me back and that's completely fine. And when I say it, I mean it. That's completely fine. But even 20 people helped me in some way. Let's make it more extreme. Even if five people help me in some way over the years, man, when you deal with that caliber of people, that can be life-changing. And I've seen this happening to you. it's been happening to me and I've been also helping people who initially reached out to me because they had that X factor of me being able to see that they genuinely didn't have a hidden agenda. And it's beautiful but to meet someone like this in the world full of fakeness. Yeah, that's what it is. Let's face it, man. That's true. And if you truly want to help someone or want to add value, you will do the due diligence of learning where they are, what they have done, right? what they're struggling with, right? So, you will have a lot of ideas, you know, a lot of creative solutions potentially that you can offer, right? So, I totally empathize. I mean, now we have the internet, right? Everything is up there, you know, you can easily find what what someone's going through. Uh, I love it, Jimmy. You've given us a lot a lot to digest. So, I'm curious in the interest of time, right, where can people continue to learn about what you do? Like, what's the most exciting thing you're working on right now? Actually, I decided I'm going completely offline. I decided I'm as a part of resetting my frame of reference, I'm deleting all my accounts. No man, I'm kidding. I I could I could I couldn't because we know each other for so long. Anyhow, the the best the best place I would say to find me uh is so obviously my website jimmyar.com, but I am most active on Instagram at the moment. It's just easy, you know, it's easy to use Instagram. And what I like about it is that as I travel, as I do crazy adventures, you know, now being here in the Desaroo Coast doing the Iron Man, I like to post updates there cuz it's just very convenient. So my Instagram literally you can find me everywhere on my name, Jimmy Narrain. So J I M Y N A R A I N E, right? You can find me everywhere. Uh you can also get my book if you want to build online courses. That's probably the best resource that you can find on building courses. Long story short, the way I do it is I try to take something that seems confusing, that seems scary, that seems overly complicated and I make it simple. I make it simple. There is a process. And one great thing about my book, and I can say this with, you know, with with uh hand on my heart, I don't upsell anything in the book. You will not find affiliate links. You will not find any BS. Like it's literally pure content in that book and you can find it on Amazon under my name. It's called Course Creation Simplified. So really that's it. You know, everything else, you know, I I I post updates on my website and on Instagram. So if you want anything else, if you want to join me in one of my live events, one of my um Breakpoint Crucible Expeditions or anything else, you'll be able to find that info both on Instagram and on my website. Amazing. Thank you so much for your time today. And by the way, yeah, that's another thing that Jimmy is good at, which is to turn knowledge into online businesses. So, you know, read his book. He's definitely one of the the gold minds out there on this because he's done it for so many people and himself successfully. Uh, and yeah, thank you for sharing so vulnerably today as well. I think a lot of people can empathize with this. Uh, so Hey everyone, I'm curious. Am I the only one who felt like Jimmy's enthusiasm and excitement was popping across the screen? Like, can we take a moment to celebrate Jimmy's energy? Can you type in the chat if you felt that way, too? Can you just let us know yes that you felt Jimmy's energy like coming across and you know wanting to share his insights and wisdom and experience with you? Um because it really goes to show that confidence is a skill, not a personality trait. Cuz again, Jimmy didn't start out like that. He was quite the opposite. Shy, softspoken, bullied, reserved, right? And he trained himself into that. He took action to create evidence that he can be confident and create more evidence that is the foundation of his confidence. So confidence is not something you're born with is built with action. And I personally really resonate with that because one of the reasons why Jimmy is such a good friend is when we met initially we shared a kindred spirit. You know back in the days I was socially awkward. I was shy. I was also bullied. And um I didn't have a lot of confidence. Uh quite frankly, in school, I was practically a doormat. And you know, even after school into the quote unquote adult world, um I struggled a lot to protect my boundaries and you know, sort of like became a people pleaser, you know, and so I had to heal from that. And one of the things was indeed to start taking actions to create new evidence for your mind because your mind is always looking for evidence to let you know what is quote unquote true in your reality. So I would like to invite you all today to not let your fear of judgment rob the world of your gift because you have a gift and people are waiting. your people are waiting for you and you know to own up that part of yourself to own your voice is really about embracing your imperfections. So, I'm very curious. Everyone, can you type in the chat right now? What is one imperfection that you want to embrace today about yourself? You know, for me, I used to think that my kindness was an imperfection. I know it sounds weird, but I used to think that being too kind means that the world would take advantage of you. And that is a very singular way of thinking. So, what is an imperfection of yours today that you can start embracing? And also I'm curious, what is one action that you want to take today to really create new evidence for your mind so that you can confidently step into your most abundant future. Now, now that Jimmy has gotten us all fired up about showing up, our next speaker is going to take us even deeper into the truth of who we really are. because he speaks from the soul and his message is about surrender, about authenticity, about living with fullhearted integrity. And this is the kind of session that gives you um goosebumps, not because it is loud, but because it is real. And our next speaker is none other than Coot Black. He's the author of the magic of surrender. You may have read it before. I'm actually curious who have read Coot's work in can you leave in the comments and let us know. He is a transformational teacher whose work has touched people in over a 100 countries. And what I love about Coot is that his way of speaking. It blends raw honesty with spiritual depth. It's like wo you get two very interesting mix of almost sometimes people perceive as polar opposites. and he has been featured on many stages like Mind Valley, Impact Theory and Afest. And now today he'll be giving us a session less about tips. This session is more about truth. Please give a big round of applause as we welcome on stage C Blackon. I am so excited to have this next guest. Uh he's my dear friend, my brother and also he's a great mentor as well. uh he's a best-selling author and uh uh also inspirational speaker and what you may not know is we share um Japanese mother different mother but uh he speaks better Japanese than I do and he has amazing uh background and I will probably ask him about uh few things on his background but uh before I go too much uh let's invite Coot Black. Yay Coot, thank you so much. Thank you for having me, Ken. Really uh it's a pleasure. It's an honor. It's a blessing. Uh I'm always very humbled by by you and uh the invitation. Yeah. Thank you so much. Uh you're so dear um so close to um to me and in my heart especially. I was so surprised when you uh spoke to me in Japanese. You sounded like a native person. Oh my god. Oh my god. But I wasn't expecting that. Uh no I I I do my best. I used to be much better but I I need to practice more. So yeah. So one of my dreams is to bring whole your whole family and just you know just uh have your stay here and and teach so you can work and also have fun at the same time and then uh your family can enjoy half of your heritage you know and then your mother will be proud. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. So um I really want to go deep uh dive with you. Uh you are the bestselling author of you are the one and uh you know so many great content you have. So uh let's just dive into your uh passion which is transformation and you've been transforming in people's life for how many years? Wow. I I I've kind of lost count because I I was sort of I don't remember when it started and when it actually began because I was kind of born into it, you know, my my father's from Ghana, my mother's from Japan, Nata, Japan and uh where they have the amazing rice and uh I grew up in London and so for me I was born into an environment of transformation. I was born into an environment of spirituality. My first memories as a young boy Ken was seeing a I remember being I don't know six, seven years old seeing a crippled woman crawling on the floor. She picks up the the gravel, the sand that this man walks on, wipes it on her face and stands up. Uh week after week, I grew up seeing blind people see and deaf people hear. And you know, uh the same man whose sand she picked up would look at a woman in a wheelchair and say, "Hey, why are you in this wheelchair? You're not sick. Stand up." And he would put his hands on them and they would be healed. And so this man was my father. He built 300 churches in Ghana, West Africa. Was a very spiritual man. Had a huge church in London about 4 to 5,000 people every Sunday. My father was very spiritual in that he went to India in the 60s and had an awakening enlightenment experience. And uh when he the Japanese connection too is when my father was a young boy, he didn't know who it was at the time. But a Japanese spiritual teacher would come to him. Masaharu Taniguchi Taniguchi Masaharu sensei of Sichano. Yeah. Would come to him and teach him about life and the mysteries and the cosmos. And so my father was a in his meditation as a as as a young boy in Ghana, you know, in the 40s, right? No internet, no TV. So this Japanese guy would come to my father and would teach him about life. He didn't even know if this guy was real. And my father only found out when he was in his 30s uh that this man actually exists. And so my father was very spiritual. I grew up in this context. When I was age eight, I was I started speaking in my father's churches. He threw me in the audience one day and said, "Speak." When I was 14, I was ordained as a minister and I was basically my entire life was scripted out for me and my father said, "My son is taking over my ministry. He is my successor." But deep down can I think I knew that this was not my path. Religion, the church, nothing wrong with it. But I just felt like my soul had a different destiny. My soul had a different path. And I think I was like many of us. I was too afraid to to follow my truth. My fear was if I dared to be myself. If I dared to follow my truth, I would lose my father's love. I would be outcast. I'd be alone. And then what? and and I allowed fear to hijack my voice and my freedom and my expression. And for four years, I tried to fit myself into a box of becoming who I thought the world wanted me to be, who I thought my father wanted me to be. Uh but became more miserable in the process. And so when I turned almost 18, I had a choice to make. I chose not to go to university because I felt that I had a a different purpose. I felt a calling in my soul that I could not explain or express. And that calling was saying, "Hey, go to America and go into the field of self-help and personal growth as a young boy." And why America in California specifically? Because as a young boy, I would sneak into my father's office and I'd read all of his spiritual self-help books. Jack Canfield, you know, Deepek Chopra, Wayne Dier, and Indian gurus and mystics as well. And many of the living self-help people lived in California. And so I figured if I could come here, I could meet them and learn from them and studied with them. And so my soul called me to the US. And sometimes what your soul guides you to do doesn't always make sense to your mind, doesn't always make sense to your logic. But I'm a firm believer through my life that when you are obedient and when you follow your soul, you will always end up in the right place at the right time with the right people doing the right thing. Even though the path that you take may not make sense and may not be the expected path. But I think when we truly follow the deeper calling and nudging of our inner guidance, we are being guided by something deeper than our logic, our ego, our mind. Then we are in alignment with life. And I think when you are truly in alignment with the flow of your life, your dharma, your soul, you are in the flow of abundance. You know, you are in the flow of true wealth and true prosperity because you are following the law of nature. And long story short, I won a green card and that's what brought me to America with two suitcases, $800 in my pocket. I knew no one in the country. Ken, I was 18 years old. I think back and I'm thinking that's crazy. 18 years old, a kid, LA, didn't know a soul, pre- internet, preocial media, just showed up and followed my heart. And even though I didn't have a penny, like I had $800, which was gone in a few weeks, I felt so rich because I had myself. I felt so rich because I was living my path. I felt so rich because I felt happy that I was following my truth. And this is something that no one could take away from me. I was living in a tiny, I don't know, 500 square f foot apartment with no bedroom, no couch, no TV, no desk, no mattress, poor as can be, but as happy as can be because I felt like I was living in alignment. And so I think for me, part of real wealth and real abundance is not just about what you have. You know, you can be rich in the bank account but be poor in the spirit. And I think part of true abundance is not just about what you have. It's about how you feel about yourself and how you feel about what you have. And how I felt about myself truly was so good because I felt I was living in integrity. I felt like I was following my purpose, my calling. And I I just felt happy even though I had nothing in the world. My bank account was zero. I didn't know how I was going to eat Ken every day. spending $1 was like a big life decision, you know, to just buy a $1 Chinese dish at the time. And so those were some interesting times. Yeah. Everything you have experienced is like a movie, you know. Uh uh I think there will be a good black movie. Probably not right now, but eventually because your life is full of amazing stories in starting from your father. Yes. the spiritual teacher and uh but the pressure must have been so strong. Was uh your father uh taking it okay and when you said I'm going to America? Oh my gosh. Um, you know, my father is an old school, I'm sure, you know, even Japan, the kind of olden times, a sort of old school patriarchal male figure and from Africa. And so my father is the kind of guy who I wasn't very close to growing up, but he was an iconic figure. So I kind of put him on a pedestal. And so the thought of not following what my father wanted felt like a death. It was terrifying to me. The thought of disappointing my father was heartbreaking to me. And so I knew my father would not be happy, you know, because I'd seen the way he reacted to people that didn't follow. My father was a kind of guy, Ken, where it's like this. Look, you have you have two choices. It's my way or my way. Please choose which way you want. That's my father. And so I remember the day I told my mother, right? My mother, I said, "Mom, I don't want to I I feel like I have a different path." And my mother was so supportive. I knew unconditional love because of my mother in my lifetime. I can say I have known what real love is. And she said, "I will support you no matter what, but be sure." So the day came, it took me four years to muster the courage because I knew the path I'd be on. And I had to I looked into my future and I saw that I could follow the expected path and live someone else's version for my life. But at the end of the day, even if I was successful, I would have be poor. Even if I was successful and rich materially, if I didn't have myself, what do I what kind of success is that? And so I looked at the other path, the path of following my calling. And even though it was scary, I knew that this is what I have to do. I felt like I didn't have a choice, you know. And so the day came, Ken, I was 17 and a half years old, and I was terrified. had been crying because I I I had to make peace with not having a relationship with my father. And I decided that if I no longer had a relationship with my father, but I still had myself, this is what mattered. And even though it was hard, when I was 17 and a half, the day came when I tiptoed up the steps to my father's bedroom, shaking, you know, shaking. And some people think you have to be fearless in life and you have to have no fear and act when you get rid of it. Only act when you're ready. I wasn't ready. I was terrified. I was afraid. But to me, I had to develop courage. And I think to live a life worth living, to leave an abundant life, to live to follow your dreams in life, to fulfill your destiny in life, you have to be courageous. You will be afraid. You will be scary. I would say if your dreams don't scare you a little bit, your dreams are too small. In fact, if you're a little afraid of your dreams, then probably you're going in the right direction. And so, I was terrified and I was I was pooping my pants. I was terrified. And I remember knocking on my father's door. Uhhuh. And he called me in and I said, "Dad, I I I need to tell you something." And he said, "Okay." And I said, "I I I I'm not taking over your church." And he said, "Are you sure? I'm I'm ready for like volcano to erupt." It was worse because it didn't. And he said, "Are you really sure?" And I said, "Uh, yeah, I'm sure." And then I tiptoed out and I went to my room and I cried for 2 hours because I felt like a relief, but I felt like I let him down and I betrayed him. And it was hard, you know, it was really hard. So he didn't take it well. We didn't speak for 2 years. 2 years he didn't speak to me for 2 years, which was challenging. But I knew that I was on the right path. I knew that I was called and I just for anyone listening that you are doubting your calling. You are not everyone is going to understand your calling. Not everyone is going to understand your path. Not everyone is going to understand your purpose and your vision. But the truth is you're they're not meant to understand it. You're the one that has been given the vision and the calling. And and your calling is not a conference call. Your calling has been given to you. Your calling and your destiny, your dreams have chosen you for a reason. And so I felt like it called me, you know. And I think many of us listening, we feel that nudging. We feel that calling and because it doesn't make sense to our logic, we analyze it and we try to control it and figure it out. And I think if we're just even if you're afraid, if you're just willing to say, you know what, I don't know how it's going to happen. Uh I'm afraid, but I'm just going to stand here and say yes. When you say yes to the deep guidance, that's what begins to unlock the the grace of the universe, that's what begins to unlock the potential of your soul. That that openhearted yes begins to unlock the inner re resources of your subconscious to be able to fulfill the dream and the vision. So I didn't know how I was going to get to America. had no money, had knew no one in America, had no college degree, I had no support from my father. Literally, it's like my prospects didn't look good. But it was in the moment I said yes and I took action. I remember Ken when I just spoke to my father, I felt so alone. M I felt so like sometimes people think that when you find your purpose and you follow your purpose, it's it's sometimes you know the self-help books make it sound like the angels appear and the violins appear. It's like and the synchronicities just happen like sometimes but many times when you actually follow your purpose in life, this is when the real challenges begin. This is when life actually tests you. And many people think that when those tests of life come that they are on the wrong path or they made the wrong decision and they stop and they give up. But they have to realize that when the real tests come and the challenges come, it's a sign that you're on the right path. Life is beginning to prepare you for the purpose and the vision that you've been given. So if you're facing tests and challenges and following your purpose, don't give up. Know that you're on the right path. Life is preparing you. Life is cooking you. life. It's like the the gymnasium of life is giving you the weight to develop the mental, emotional, psychological, spiritual muscles. And I remember sitting there in my bedroom going, "God, like what have I done? Like what did I make the wrong decision? What have I done?" And I felt like I was in the darkness. I felt like I was in a huge abyss, Ken. And I prayed to God. I I said, "Universe, if if if this spiritual stuff works, law of attraction and visions and dreams, I I need to I need a sign. I need a sign." Days later, someone hands me a magazine. I'm sitting in the library. Someone hands me a magazine called The Economist, and I felt chills in my body. Life will give you clues if you're paying attention. I look in the back of the magazine and I see it says American government's giving away 55,000 green cards in the green card lottery. Oh my god. And something said my intuition said enter this. You're going to win. I entered the I entered this green card lottery through the law firm. I was told that un this was April. Uh and I was told that unless you heard by September the 18th, move on with your life. You won't get a notice that you haven't won. So every day can I'm I'm visualizing you know I'm visualizing myself in America. I'm seeing the president of United States shaking my hand. I'm getting into the feeling and do I cut out a piece of paper made a small little card wrote my name on it green card. Colored it green. I didn't know green cards back then were pink. But I'm really applying all of the spiritual principles. Every day I'm going to the mailbox. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. September the 18th rolls around. nothing. Okay, I'm mad. I'm I'm upset. I'm I'm I'm I'm furious at the universe, I go to sleep that night. Holding true to the vision of what I feel in my body. Many times right before the breakthrough, there is a darkness. There is a dark night. There is a breakdown. And many times we stop before the breakthrough. But that that that breakdown is not sent to break you. That breakdown is sent to is sent to sort of for you to see if you really believe in the vision that you have. Sometimes that breakdown is sent for you to really hold to the energy and the frequency and the vibration of the knowing of what you feel. And so I decided, Ken, I don't know if I've ever told you, but I've decided that I would pack my bags and I would just I'm I I was going to go to America, green card or no green card. I mean, I guess that's illegal, but I'm 19. I didn't I wasn't thinking of what that actually meant, you know. I'm like, I'm going. And my mom is like, you but how are you going to go? You don't have the green card. I said, I feel it. I know it. It's done. I can feel it. But I was getting a bit nervous. And so I went to sleep. That night I got a phone call. My mother picked up the phone. Mr. Blackon, an American voice. This is the law firm that applied for you. You have won a green card. This is this has never happened to us. And I was jumping around hugging my mother and in that moment Ken of of of celebration I heard this voice that said, "Why do you seem so surprised?" Knew you were going to win this green card. Do not doubt. And so that was a pivotal moment in my life. So if there's anyone that you have a dream and you have a vision, you have an idea, a goal, a dream and desire and it's not manifesting and it's not working out. If you feel it and you know it, my my my encouragement is that you hold to that knowing. You hold to that knowing and you don't give up. Wow. Amazing. Thank you so much for sharing. So uh but what are the odds? It must be like tens of thousands of people applied, right? Millions. Millions of people apply. Yeah. I mean in each country. So yes. Yes. Tens of thousands. One out of like a few thousand or 10,000 you want. No, it's more it's more more than one out of 10. Yeah. It's more than that from my understanding. And then from the people that win the green card, then they screen you through a whole interview process, application process, medical tests, you got to prove this, prove that. And so then people get even uh uh uh sort of narrowed out from there. So it was a miracle you know so it's what I believe that ultimately if you show up you say yes you show up you take action and you do your part nothing can stop your true destiny and if you live in that knowing of I'm going to do my part there's my destiny that is flowing the sort of momentum of karma and energy right is destiny but now I have to apply my will my effort my intention when intention meets destiny and that comes together in a union that's what I think sort of facilitates the unfolding of manifestation of your life beautiful but you're meant to uh do things in Ghana that was your original destiny right but then you got moved to London and then states and I think you're going to go uh very international from now but uh Can you just share some fun story with Jack Canfield? I really enjoy your story when you met Jack. Oh, the first time. Yeah. Oh my god. That's You know, I I had Jack on a podcast the other day and he forgot this completely. And so really when Yeah. He didn't remember. I mean it was such a long time ago when I came to America the first time like you know I I grew up reading Ken I like my heroes were not Michael Jordan and you know soccer players or my heroes were like Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hans if they had posters of these guys like as a 12y old they would have been on my bedroom wall you know and so you're like Ken I remember like as a kid I I would save up all of my money and order Jim drone tapes from America. I would save up all of my money and read the Chicken Soup for the Soul. And so when I came to America, I said I was going to go meet these people and find these people. I didn't know them. And so there was an address in the back of Jack's book and it it was like, "Oh, here's the address. Uh something Parkway in Culver City. I'm 18 years old. I'm kind of a bit, you know, naive at the time." And so I just decided I was going to show up at his office and I knocked on his office and I said, "I'm C." Somehow I thought he was waiting for me or something, you know, and and I said, "I want I want to meet Jack Canfield and this is my vision and my passion." And I remember I forget who it was. She said, it was an assistant. And she said, "Well, you can't because he's not here and you can't meet him and d" and and I said, "No, I'm not leaving until I meet Jack Campfield. I've come all the way. I want to meet Jack Campfield. He's my hero." I kind of explained my story. I read Jack's book when I was 12. Um, this is my passion. I want to go into this field. I had dream of like like reaching millions of people with my work and my books. And you know, I've had visions of writing books since I was 11 years old. And and and I was just going on and on and on and his assistant was trying to get rid of me. All of a sudden, an hour later of just me trying to talk to the assistant, Jack walks out from a room and he's like, "What's what's going on here?" And I said, "Jack, my name's C." And and the assistant was shocked because she was trying to protect Jack. And so Jack Holt was kind enough to call me in to his office. And this 18-year-old kid, he has no idea who I am. Uh and he sat me down. And I reminded Jack of this. He sat me down and he said, "Okay, tell me." And I told him my whole story. And he said, "Okay, uh, read these books, go to these seminars, do this, do this, do this, do this, do this, do this, go visit this person." He he spent, I don't know, 45 minutes just just giving me advice and he forgot. But what's amazing is, you know, in the process of life and being, you never know whose life you impact. And I went and did everything he did and some of it changed the trajectory of my life. you know, he said, "Go find this woman, Doy Walters, and see if you can speak to her." She was at the time one of the legendary speaking agents in America, you know, like legendary woman. Knocked on the went and found her her address, didn't know it was her house in Glendor and I show up at her house. And so there are many things, Jack that told me that really stuck with me and and made a big difference and it was a real blessing. And so you just never know. Uh I think many of us we we stand on the shoulders of people that came before us and Jack was one of those people. So yeah, it was it was a fun moment. Yeah. Truly truly inspiring. But your uh your action is so amazing. I'd feel so shy to do that. And I think probably now uh uh his assistants would probably call a police, right? Well, today they would kid you know this crazy guy like if I was in I would if I was in Japan maybe I would have shown up at your office kind of like ah you know but yeah I think that to really create and fulfill our destiny requires because we live in a three-dimensional world. Yes, everything starts at an energetic level of consciousness at the level of thought. Thoughts have vibration and there are vibrations that are emitted from our brain. So you know to truly manifest in the world there's a kind of formula that I'll give right truly manifest in the world you have to have thoughts thinking thoughts. Thoughts that happen in our brain cycles per second. Thoughts emit a frequency and a vibration out into the world which is magnetic and attracts synchronicities and situations. But that's just one part of the equation. Thoughts by themselves aren't enough. Otherwise, we could just think ourselves into selling 8 million books and think ourselves into becoming a millionaire. But thoughts is one level. But thoughts plus emotions, emotions are feeling. You have to enter the the feeling state. As a young boy, I would think about myself speaking and I saw myself on stages around the world. I visualized it. Right? But then you have to feel it. You have to feel it as already done. How does it feel in your body? How does it feel to have that car, that house, the soulmate, the relationship? Cultivate the feeling in your nervous system so that your your your your vehicle, your body, your nervous system can actually be receptive vibrationally to receiving the very thing that you want. So thoughts plus feeling plus words. how you speak. Your words are creative. Your words are a spell. Your words carry vibration. And through your words, you can also speak things into existence. So many times we also don't realize that we are sometimes repelling our goals, dreams, desires, our wealth by how we speak. Oh, I can't afford that. Uh that will never happen for me. I'll try. Maybe. Right? These things are actually pushing away the very things energetically and vibrationally that we want in our lives versus yeah it's done okay I can't when it happens like we're kind of assuming it has already done and so thoughts plus feelings plus words when connected to a purpose the purpose is the why if we don't know why we are doing something the motivation on a personal level right to feed my kids, to feed my wife, to feed my son, you know, to whatever it is to experience this thing. The motivation on a bigger level, the bigger sense of purpose that is beyond ourselves. When we can connect to a personal purpose and a bigger purpose connected to thoughts, feelings, and words, that creates a bigger vibration and energy that magnifies out into the world, you know. And so from that place I would say the next thing you need is a vehicle right some what is the vehicle that you're going to use in the world to manifest the goal dream and desire is it a book is it a business and then from that you need a strategy strategy is the sequence of events because let's say I want to get from Houston to Japan but I head towards you know Taiwan Anna, I'm going in the wrong direction. And so many times we don't manifest because we either have the wrong vehicle, right? Or we actually have the wrong strategy, uh the the wrong road map. And I think to really have the most effective strategy, you need mentors. People like a Jack Canfield, people like a Ken Honda, people that have walked the path and been there before that can help you compress time and decades because they know the terrain of the jungle, the terrain of the land. So they can guide you so that you don't have to make the same mistakes. mentors, coaches, teachers, guidance, but also surrounding yourself with the right community that can support you with the right perspectives and strategies. But then you need to take aligned action. Action that is based on the right vehicle, the right strategy, action that is connected to your purpose. And I think many times people miss the action part. And to manifest in the world and translate the invisible into the visible, you got to take action. Wow. And I I know you are master of uh attracting what you want. And uh one of the pictures you showed me is your retreat center in Mexico. Oh yeah. And uh that is also the result of your manifestation too, right? Yeah. You know, you know what I would say in life? This might be something different for people to think about. I actually say you don't attract what you want. You attract what you are. You attract what you are an energetic vibrational match for. Because there's many things I think we want, but we still don't attract. Why don't we attract it? Because on some level, we're not a vibrational match based on what? Based on our thoughts, based on our beliefs, based on our feelings, based on our belief system, based on our pain, traumas, hurt that we're still carrying. And so I think part of manifestation is realizing that your life out here in the external world is a mirror manifestation of the deeper aspects of your own consciousness. Life is a mirror of your most deeply held beliefs about yourself, how you feel about yourself. And the truth is the mirror over time consistently the mirror doesn't lie. So I I invite people if you look at your life, you are in relationship with yourself. As you look at your life, do you like what you see? And a lot of people try to simply focus on when it comes to manifestation, let me rearrange my life. Let me change my life out here. That's one level. It's great. But if you just change what's out here, but don't change what's inside of you, your belief systems, your thoughts, your emotions, the the inner healing work, then you will just keep recreating and printing and projecting what's in here out here, and you're just rearranging the surface level of life versus the real course. And if life is a mirror manifestation of your consciousness, your most deeply held beliefs about yourself, what I would ask people to sit with. What does your life reflect to you about yourself? And do you like what you see? If you don't like what you see, this is not bad. Nothing's wrong. Realize that you can change it by changing yourself. And so I think everything starts from the inside. when we change ourselves, yes, life the manifestation in our life also starts to shift and and and so as a result, yeah, I think as I've as I've done the inner work, as I've healed, as I've loved myself, as I've healed unworthiness, as I've come into greater alignment, what starts showing up in my life, even things I can't I didn't plan, what starts showing up in my life um starts will start to reflect has reflected how I feel about myself more and more. And so yes, a retreat center uh and the space I built in Tulum was a expression. It was an expression of my most sort of inner self. It was an expression of how I feel about myself. It was an expression of a dimension of my consciousness in that moment. It's so beautifully put. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, you've been so passionate about transforming people's lives. Um, yes. Is there anything that you want to do from now? Myself? Yes. Or Wow. life work. So, say that again. Oh, with your life work, you know. Wow. You know, you I I think Ken, I I just feel like I'm in such a I'm in an exciting phase. I feel like I've completed one phase of my life and the next phase is more global. You mentioned it just like it's more global. The next phase is wider reach to more people, more scale and making my work accessible to even more people. Uh that's really what I feel you know through speaking and teaching and expansion and also as an entrepreneur there's some visions I've been given entrepreneurally aside from what I'm doing uh that's a little different that I feel like a new challenge a new evolution of part of what I'm here to give the world and so you know more and more what I ask myself like one level o of of of life is what do I want? You know, it's one level of the question. Okay, what do I want? What does I what do I want? Okay, there's some things I want. I mean, it's cool. It's great. Car, a house. Okay, that's fun. But I think what I realized through manifesting a lot can I manifested every freaking car I wanted, every stuff, house, car, what? And at a certain point, as you know, it's cool, but how many cars can you drive? you know, how many shoes can you wear? At a certain point, you reach a point of dissatisfaction. And and and I think that what I found for myself is true wealth and true fulfillment doesn't come from what you get. True wealth, true abundance, true fulfillment comes from who you are and what you give and what you express and the true fulfillment of giving to the world. And so I think I'm in a stage of my life, my evolution where my deep prayer, Ken, is universe, how can I be of how can I be of greater service to humanity? How can I use my gifts and talents to be of greater service to humanity? I want to be used for the greater service to humanity. And so my prayer more than anything specific is use me. use me for the highest service to humanity. And I think I yeah, I would maybe invite those listening to kind of open to that, you know, like one level is what do I want? The next level is what is life seeking to express through me? What is life seeking to manifest through me? What is life seeking to create through me? And I think when we can open to that, we open ourselves to a larger dimension of consciousness beyond ourselves and life begins to express through us. And so this is really what I want, Ken. This is really my my my calling now is to be fully used by life in writing. And you know, you know, you're my hero. It's like you you've reached so many people through your works and your books. And it's like yeah I feel like writing and publishing and you know reaching people in that way is is sort of the next evolution now you know and I'm very very uh excited the next the next phase. So yeah thank you for sharing that. Um you know in your book surrender you know uh you talk talk about the total surrender which really and you just scare me away don't be scared. Yeah, like am I I'm asking myself like am I in total surrender? M probably know because I always hold on to something and then you seem to live a life of surrender and so people say there are two kinds of people who who uh set goals and kind of go for the goals and uh the other ones uh go with the flow go where you are guided and uh you have been more like a guided uh life is just make sure you don't get so simply are setting goals from the the ego. The ego, that conditioned version of ourselves that we identify as, we can't see the total unfolding and possibilities of the infinity of life. We can only see like a very small sliver of the pie. And it's okay to have that goal, the car, the house, the job, the thing. All I'm saying is don't get hold on so tightly to it that you're not open to life. And many of us we don't realize that sometimes we hold so tightly to the goal that we think we want that we're actually putting limitations on life. Set the goal but be open. Set the goal and go for it. But be available. Be available to life showing you more. Because I think life what I have found and been been humbled by life is life is bigger than your plan. Life is bigger than your goals. And I think if all of us are honest when you look at the best things in your life that happened to you a lot of it you didn't plan it. It kind of happened in the process of living life in the process of you're going towards this goal and you thought it was the goal but uh oh oh it was oh I wasn't it wasn't for that it was for this you know me meeting my wife I didn't plan it it happened in the process of living life and so sometimes the purpose of a goal is not the goal it's for the journey it will take you on but the journey it takes so So if you're going to be attached to anything, be attached to the journey, just not the outcome. Because the journey it takes you on will take you through an evolution, will force you to confront yourself, will force you to learn lessons and force you to become more. And who you become in the process of the pursuit of the goal, will prepare you to become the person that is ready for the real thing. Like when I look at Mandela, you can't plan that life, Ken. How do you plan a Mandela life? Mandela sitting there. Okay. Uh yeah, I'm going to let me put on my goal list. I'm going to spend 27 years in prison. Then I'm You can't plan that. It just it happens in the process. So set your goals. Just don't be attached to the goals. Because sometimes the goal that you think is the goal is not really the goal. And sometimes you might get the goal that you thought only to realize that what you thought you wanted was not really what you really wanted. It was just what you thought you wanted. But you still have to go through the process. And that's why I invite people to ask the question. It's kind of like soul setting, not just goal setting where you ask the question, what is it that life is seeking to express through me? And if you if you can become still and quiet and listen listen to the deeper impulse, listen to the deeper truth. Listen to the deeper energy of where you're guided. Then you can maybe kind of catch the vision of ah this is the book I'm meant to write, not the book I think I'm supposed to write. Ah, this is what I'm actually supposed to do. Then you can catch the vision and then you can bring your resources and your goal setting and your strategy and your marketing in alignment with the fulfillment of the deeper vision of your soul. Then you can have goals to support the expression of your soul. That's the difference. And so you can set goals just don't be attached. Give 100% just don't be attached. And there's the difference. And just to be clear, surrender people think oh just go with the flow. So, if I don't feel like exercising, I'm just going to go with the flow. If I feel like eating, I mean, hey, left to my own devices, Ken, I would just go with the flow and eat seven donuts a day. You know, that that would be my flow. But, you know, sometimes what we mistake as going with the flow as surrender, I'm just going with the flow is really laziness. What we mistake as going with the flow is just following your own addiction, you know. And so sometimes if you understand real surrender, real surrender is when you feel the deeper truth. Wow, this is what I'm meant to do. This is where I'm meant to go. This is the truth of what I need to give the world and express. Maybe it scares you. Maybe you don't feel like it. But real surrender is you're not just following the fleeting mood in the moment. Because if you just follow the fleeting mood in the moment, I would never write a book. I don't feel like sitting down and writing. I wouldn't I would never exercise Ken because I don't feel like it. But because I have a I've surrendered to the deeper commitment being healthy. I've surrendered to the deeper commitment wanting people to impact people through my book and my seminars. Then sometimes surrender means you do what you don't feel like doing in the moment because there's a deeper mission and vision you're committed to. Right? So it might mean if you surrender you work harder than you've worked before because when I look at Gandandy or Mother Theresa or a Mandela they they worked hard you know they weren't just sitting around doing nothing you know they they Bruce Lee they they put in the effort because they were surrendered to something bigger than themselves. I just want to make that distinction so that people don't think surrender is laziness. surrender. There's a misconception that surrender is giving up. That if I surrender, I won't manifest my dream life. I won't create abundance. I'm going to be homeless in a shack in downtown with nothing and I'm I'm going to get less in life. I'm actually saying no. If you really surrender, what if you don't get less, but you got more? More than you could have planned. Because when you surrender, you transcend yourself. When you transcend yourself, you open to the infinite possibilities of the universe. And that's when the universe. That's when you tap into the magic of the universe and universe can manifest through you in ways you could not have planned. You know, I look at Ken, I had this ju just to make it practical for people, right? I I look at I just moved to Houston, as you know, right? I mentioned in January when I saw you, I didn't plan on moving to Houston, Kim. It was not a plan. It was not a strategy. Here's what happened. As you know, my wife and I, we had a beautiful son. You met my son. We we love spending time with you and and and your daughter. And so, we were thinking what where would be here's what we were thinking. Where would be an amazing where would be a really good place to raise a child? And as much as I love I love LA. I spent 20ome years. It's my home. If I'm honest, I don't know if LA is the healthiest environment for a foundation for a child. It's a difficult place to raise a young child. You know, that's the honest truth. If selfishly, I would be in LA. But if I'm honest, it's not the best place. So many distractions, so so much going on there. And so my wife and I, we were thinking where would be good. So what started happening was we began researching. So if you want to manifest, you have to start moving into action and following the energy. You don't have to know where you're going, but follow the energy. So we started following the energy and we started researching. Then we decided, this is over a couple of years. Let's travel to some of these places. We went to San Francisco, we went to Chicago, we went to New York, we went to Miami. We started traveling to different places to just start exploring. Would this be a good place? We got into action, right? Many times we sit on the sideline and expect the universe to just do it. But you have to go into action. Surrender is going into action. Doesn't mean just sitting on the sidelines. So we went into action. Nothing got clear. We were exploring. And then one day I went online and I saw this really interesting house in Miami. I showed my wife. My wife said, "This looks great. Let's go look at it." I came back from India. That day we were going to fly. I was looking online. I found the house in Houston, Texas. No plan, Ken, on moving to Houston. But I showed my wife this house. Oh, that's a cool house. She said, "That's an amazing house." She said, "Why don't we stop in Houston? It's halfway to Miami. Let's stop there. We'll just look at the house, break up our trip for our baby son, and then fly to fly to Miami." No plan to move there. No intention to move there. We got on a plane without intending to move there. We were just planning to break up our trip and kind of follow, explore. We were following the energy of life and I'd never been to Houston, right? So, we got to Houston. The moment we saw this house, it just felt right. Something just felt like, wow. Like we looked at each other and it was just a sense beyond the mind. It was like something feel like if if you get still and I want everyone to get this if you get still and don't force it's like a stream you will feel that life has a natural flow. Part of surrender is allowing life to lead you and following the natural flow of life. You will still have to swim. You'll still have to show up. you'll still have to do the research. You still have to take action. But if when you're working in flow versus against the flow, that's when the magic happens. So, we showed up and we felt like everything feels kind of like it's aligning here. Then we drove for two days around Houston. We found out that all of the criteria that we had or a lot of the criteria that we had for a place we wanted to live, a grounded place, uh, a place that was family oriented, uh, cosmopolitan city. We found out Houston is the most diverse city in America. We had no idea. It's a big city, yet the suburb was very homey and family oriented, amazing schools, international flight connections, right? We found out that my wife is from Brazil direct one of the very few cities that has a direct flight to Rio and Brazil. So it it's almost as though all of the things that we were looking for but didn't even know. And so sometimes life has a better plan than your plan and that's when the magic happens. That surrender but you still have to go into action. That's the key. Okay. So, you cannot surrender and and and stay lazy. It's like saying, "I'm going to surrender, but I'm not going to the gym." No, no, you got to surrender to going to the gym. All right. Yeah. Thank you for clarifying that because a lot of people ask me, "Okay, if I surrender, you know, can I become a best-selling author?" No. No. Surrender. You got to surren You got to surrender to doing the work that it takes. That's right. That might mean doing 50 podcast interviews when you're not in the mood, when you're tired, when you're exhausted, when you're feeling a bit sick. It means you surrender to doing the work that it that it t everybody wants to be Gandandy. I'll say it this way. Everybody wants to be a bestselling author, but very few people are willing to do what it takes to be a bestselling author. Everybody wants to be, you know, Bruce Lee, but very few people really willing to do what Bruce Lee did and the work he did. And that's that's surrender. When you say, you know what, this is my calling in life and I'm willing to surrender to what it's going to take to fulfill this calling. Most people, Ken, that I have seen, and I've worked with thousands, will not fulfill their potential in this lifetime. Let me repeat. Most people will not fulfill their potential in this lifetime because they're not willing to surrender to what it takes, the work it takes, the effort it takes, the sacrifices it might take to truly be able to fulfill that. When I look at the great ones, Tom Brady, you know, Roger Federer, right, the the the great athletes of the Olympians, they surrender to what it's going to take to fulfill that. And so I think we we all have to surrender is the willingness to go all in on what you feel is true on what you feel your calling is. That's what when you give everything you've got. This is when grace kicks in and the and and the universe supports you and the miracles happen. Wow. Thank you so much. you you're truly inspiring and I just feel like uh keep listening to you. Thank you. We'll do this in the plan too, you know, when we Yes. Anytime when your family comes. Okay. So, we need to wrap it up. Uh uh uh can you tell tell us where uh what you're excited about now and then what you do? Sure. Yeah. I mean, I'm excited about life and uh just it's it's always I just want to say Ken, it's always such a joy. I want everyone to know to collaborate with you in any way. Uh when I received your text, I was was like it's all it doesn't even matter what it is. anything that you want to do or I'm a part of and and you you know you are for me I don't know if I've told you but you are an embodiment of what you teach because you talk about happy money but it's really about living an abundant life and you're always I want everyone to know this guy Ken Honda is always kind humble so generous in just your way of being and your invitation and it's just you said, "Oh, I'm your mentor, but many ways you're my mentor and I and I observe." Just know I observe and I've learned so much by just watching who you are and how you operate in the world. So, just thank you for your graciousness. Someone who is a legend and so successful yet so humble for me, that's like real wealth and that's so inspiring. So just just an acknowledgement to you, Ken. Um yeah, if people want to connect, uh I love helping people elevate and expand and heal and transform. I'm creating new events and new seminars that will be launched in the second half of this year. You can find out more my website couplaxon kutblackson.com. I created a free online course. Um and I decided uh the beginning of the year I wanted to gift it to the world. Um, thousands of people have taken the course. It's c it's it's called the eight levels of gratitude, the number eight. So, people can get the course for free. www.8 levelsofgratitude.com. That's eight levels of gratitude.com. It really walks people through the eight levels that if you learn how to harness and unlock will supercharge your ability to create more abundance and joy and prosperity in the world. Um, depending when people listen to this, uh, we're launching also another new online course. You can find out more by going to www. manifestationmasterclassonline.com. Uh, watch the free webinar and be inspired there. Uh, my book magic of surrender and Instagram couplaxon. Yeah, thank you so much. We'll make sure that people uh get all the uh information that um that you're willing to share. So thank you could uh for being so generous and thank you uh sharing your energy and life uh passion with us. I'm I'm sure all the viewers and listeners have been so inspired by you and uh you know I hope uh people can learn from you in the future. So thank you. Appreciate it. Okay. So we'll do we'll do this in Tokyo or other places uh next time. Oh, sure. It's always a great pleasure. just know it's s such an honor knowing you and I I'm so happy to call you as my brother from a different Japanese mother and uh we'll just uh continue um you know this conversation. Okay, thank you so much for um showing up and uh just sharing your uh generous time. Thank you. That was a soul deep session. If you found yourself excessively nodding or if you uh shed a tear a bit, that's the Coot Black effect. Congratulations. You were fully immersed. I'm very curious everyone. What came up for you when you listened to Coot? Did a sense of truth came up for you? Did you discover something about yourself that you have been sort of ignoring or hiding it away? Uh maybe something that you found a new that you realize, wait a second, that is who I am. Can you share in the chat? I think that for us a lot of times we hold on to a past self and we refuse to let go of what we think we should be instead of making space for who we really are. And that's completely normal. Uh it's a lot of us, right? Our egos resists surrender because it wants safety. It wants comfort. But growth, growth lives in the unknown. And that's also where the beauty is because the potential is limitless. And I think Coot really reminded us that we're all here to live an authentic life. We're not here to live a perfect life. We're here to live life in the way that means the most authentic to us. And so even if you say yes to your soul and it may make you look crazy to other people, that's okay. That's okay because the right people are going to look at you and think that's awesome. You know, I was talking about charisma the other day as well. I was thinking about, you know, what makes a person charismatic, right? And I realized that on top of like techniques and things you say and obviously the energy aspect, one really really key thing about charisma is that it's because that person is truly truly comfortable in their own skin. Exhibit A, there's this actor called Kiana Reeves. Not sure if you heard of him before. Very successful actor. takes the subway, you know, eats sandwiches in the park and that's the way he wants to live, right? So, when you are living your authentic life, you become a magnet for the people that are right for you, that are drawn to you. And so, it's okay. It's okay to be authentic. So I want to invite you all today to really take a deep breath and really acknowledge what is one truth for you that you have been shying away from up until now. We all think that surrender is weak. But like Koot said, surrender is actually quite the opposite. It's true strength and the deeper you surrender, the higher you rise. And I'm so excited to see all of you rise to the next level of your life expression. Now after a powerful inner reset with coup, let's let's go into another spectrum because our next speaker also talks about healing but it's about the body. It's about um the physical body and emotions, right? So he is well known for all things related to emotions and because when we clear our emotional energy it impacts every part of our health and our wealth journey. So, if you ever felt like you had a moment of, "Wow, I have a lot of emotional baggage, like literally stuck in your body, like you feel the weight, then you would really, really be excited to hear what our next speaker has to say because I'm pretty sure that he will open up some surprising doors for you." And our next speaker, if you already guessed it, is Dr. Bradley Nelson. Dr. Nelson is obviously the famous creator of the emotion code which is a method used to help people release trapped emotions that may be causing pain blocks and obviously illnesses. He's also one of the world's leading experts when it comes to bioenergetic medicine and energy healing. and his book has sold over 250,000 copies and translated to over a dozen languages and is one of the fundamental pieces of work when it comes to emotional mastery. So, please give a big round of applause and welcome on stage Dr. Bradley Nelson. Hello, Ken Honda here. I'm so happy to uh be hosting my very great friend and my great mentor, Dr. Bradley Nelson. Thank you for the wealth happy wealth summit. Hi Brad. Thank you so much for joining. Ken, thank you so much for having me. It's so great to be here. Thank you. Yes, I've known him uh I don't know a year or two, but you know this year or this month this is our third opportunity to have a little chat, right? Yeah. So, I'm talking with uh Dr. Bradley Nelson more than with my with my best friends and my my brothers and brother and sister. So, it's so great to have you back. It's great to be here. I'm really excited about our topic, too. I think people are going to get a lot out of this. Yes. And uh I'm so happy to be able to ask you questions about emotions especially how to release emotional blocks around money and many of us so want to learn about um getting rid of the blocks and you are the expert for u releasing emotions. Uh Dr. Brley Nelson has developed or um the system called uh emotion code. Can you um talk about this and can you talk about this in in a simple layer term for us? Yeah, absolutely. Um well, we all have something that you could call emotional baggage. Mhm. And that emotional baggage is the the unprocessed emotional energy from emotional things that we've gone through where sometimes an emotion comes up for us and we bury it. We don't want to feel it. Sometimes certain things that happen are really overwhelming and those emotions can get trapped in the body. Um sometimes we um experience an emotion and we become really upset and then realize later we didn't need to get that upset. Any of those three kinds of situations can result in emotional energies that are trapped in the body. And uh so I've been doing this now for about 36 years and have have realized that emotional baggage like this is uh it's the biggest impediment that we have to health and to wealth and also to love because this emotional baggage affects us in a whole bunch of different ways. And so that's what the emotion code book is about. It's a simple method anyone can learn to get rid of their own emotional baggage. They can do it by themselves. Wow. So, we know that there's something going on around money, especially psychologically. We know something what happened um some years ago uh have something to do with it. But we don't know how to pinpoint our emotions and we have no way uh of knowing how to release them. Well, right. You you have to understand that um we all have two minds. We have a conscious mind which is where we spend all of our waking hours and we work our jobs and we have our relationships and so on. When you go to sleep at night, the conscious mind shuts off completely and what's left is the subconscious mind. And the subconscious mind is I believe is the most powerful computer really that exists in the known universe. It's powerful I think beyond our ability to really comprehend. It's creating millions of new cells every minute. Uh it's monitoring mill trillions of chemical reactions in the body constantly every every minute. And the subconscious mind is aware. He remembers everything you've ever done. Every face you've ever seen in a crowd your whole life. Everything you've ever eaten or tasted or touched or smelled. The whole history of your health or disease is logged in that subconscious mind of yours. It remembers everything. And so it knows about the emotional baggage that we have. Now I was a computer programmer. Uh Ken, I don't know if I I told you that, but back in the early 1980s when personal computers were first being developed, uh I was a programmer at that time. And then later when I became a doctor, I began to realize that the subconscious mind of every patient was also a computer, but unlike any computer that I was used to. So think about it this way. Um, if you have a smartphone, that phone is a computer, right? It has a screen and it has, you know, you can touch things with your fingers and so it's what we call a touchscreen interface. Now, I'm I'm working on a laptop right now. I've got a screen where I can see messages and I have a keyboard where I can put in information. So, it's a a screen slash keyboard interface. But the subconscious mind, even though it's a computer, it has no screen, how does it communicate to us? It communicates to us through the symptoms that we experience, physical, mental, emotional. If you're dealing, for example, since we're talking about money, if you're having a hard time making money in your life, if you're having a hard time really creating what you know you're capable of, it's because there are energies within you that are known to your subconscious mind that can be identified and can be deleted and it can open the way for you to really create the kind of abundance that you want. And along with that comes better health and more love. and so on. So, um the emotion code is uh it's a simple method. It's incredibly powerful. Um it's simple enough that children can learn how to do it and are doing it and having great results, you know, all over the world. But, um yeah, I that's why this understanding that came to me in my practice, uh I knew I this had to go to the whole world. I I knew this wasn't just for me. This information had to go to the whole entire world because emotional baggage is the single biggest common denominator to everything we're dealing with. Wow. Amazing. And uh we just had a chat before this uh thing started. How many countries uh uh were there who whoever has learned about this motion certified about this method? Well, you know, we have um these are some of the languages behind me. You can see on the wall that the it's much bigger than that actually. Um but we we have a certification program where we certify people uh who want to really master this work. Uh the emotion code is our level one certification. We've certified almost 15,000 people now uh in 108 countries. There are 109 countries, so we're over halfway. And I I you know eventually we'll get all of them. Wow. Amazing. Amazing. So I think uh uh the people who are watching this want to know uh where our emotional baggage uh is or how it was created and how to release them. So um I just want to go a little deeper with this emotional baggage. Uh the reason why we have a hard time asking for more money or asking for raise, asking for uh more is that we feel unworthy. So we feel unworthy of receiving more. Uh we feel unworthy that we will be given great opportunities and and that includes not only money but relationships and uh health and other things. So uh um can you share some tips on how to uh raise your self-image or how to um dissolve this unworthiness feeling? Well, you know, um there are there are a number of different things that you can do. Uh the the the most powerful thing that I have seen that affects these feelings of unworthiness is actually using the emotion code, identifying those energies. that are stuck in the body. You can also do things like affirmations of course, you know, listen to positive things, listen to uh um listen to things that are going to help you to kind of overcome that inertia. But I want to share an interesting experience that I had. This is a very a very personal experience that I had about this. When I was writing the emotion code book back in 2007, every morning when I would get up and I would go to work on the book, I would have to watch uh I'd have to spend half an hour to an hour watching or listening to really motivational things like Tony Robbins or other, you know, really powerful motivational speakers because I had this feeling of hopelessness. Now, it wasn't until, and in fact, I'll tell you something. If anybody would have asked me during the time that I was writing the emotion code book to describe that project in one word, I would absolutely without any hesitation would have said it feels hopeless. But I'm continuing because that's exactly how it felt. Now, two years after the emotion code book came out, I asked my daughter to work on me. She found that I had an inherited trapped emotion of hopelessness from 22 generations back in our family line. Wow. And when she discovered that, all of a sudden, she could feel that there was someone standing next to her that she couldn't see. And she knew who it was. It was the grandmother that this began with back in the 1400s probably. Wow. And she could feel this woman's emotions. I know this is sounds crazy, but she she could feel how desperate this woman was to have this energy released from her posterity, she could also feel how overwhelmed with gratitude this woman was that this was being done that. And when my daughter released that emotion, and this is part of part of the emotion code is finding these energies that have been passed to us at conception from ancestors that may go back hundreds of years. When that was released from me, I had felt I I suddenly recognized that I had had this background music, this background feeling of hopelessness that had been there every waking moment of my life. I didn't even know that it was there until suddenly it turned off and the silence was deafening as they say. Mhm. And that was one of the most powerful healings that I have ever had. It changed my life in dramatic ways. Um, it changed my daughter's life too. She is one of the most amazing artists. She paints in oils. But until that day, she had never painted anything. Wow. And I believe that uh without having that energy released, I mean a year after that was done because see I had passed that to her when she was conceived. And so it released from me, it released from her, it released from all those ancestors as well, what we believe. And a year later, she had an art showing in Seattle and all this art was coming out of her. Just unbelievable. I think that it's very likely that if we had not identified that emotional energy, hundreds of years old, she probably would never have been an artist and I would still be battling with those feelings of hopelessness. Hopelessness, of course, is very similar to unworthy, worthless, you know, all those feelings of shame and so on. They're all they're all very similar in frequency. And so, um, there's a lot that we can do consciously, you know, with the conscious mind. But what about these energies that we don't even remember? We consciously we have no memory of these things. And so, uh, so that's where the emotion goat comes in because it makes it easy to identify things that are not known to the conscious, but that are only known to the subconscious. So, wow. And and what's amazing is that your daughter could do it for you. She didn't probably received the uh you know doctor degree from Harvard or something, right? How old were she at the time? How old was she? Yeah. To heal you. Well, let's see. She was probably she was married. She was probably um I don't know, probably in her mid30s. Okay. And she uh she didn't uh uh she didn't have a doctor of psychology, right? No, not at all. In fact, um in fact, this was done at a distance. We were about 1500 miles apart when this happened. She was in Seattle. I was here in St. George, Utah, where I live. And that's another amazing thing about this is that it uh because it's really based on quantum physics. Mhm. Uh quantum physics knows no barriers of of distance, so you don't have to be there. Um and most of our practitioners, for example, uh work with other people in other countries all over the world. Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, but I can really relate to it. You know, I just finished I'm right now in I'm in Kyoto. We just finished our first Englishspeaking mastermind and it was so beautiful to see um people gather from uh Asia, Europe in you know Africa, Arabic countries and you uh North and Central and South America and of course Japan and China and we did the healing work around money. So I had this American person and Japanese person and Asian person and all that gathered together and just we talked about uh how our parents dealt with money and uh um parents and grandparents and the the rest of the ancestors we don't know. So, you know, it doesn't really matter if you are Christian or Muslim or um Buddhist, but I think we can all share this feeling that we've been heavily influenced and limited by parents and grandparents. And what you're saying is that we can release even the emotional blocks that happen way way long before we are we are born, right? Yeah, we absolutely can. In fact, let me let me share another story with you about this if that's okay. Yes, of course. I was at a um I was at an event once and um a woman showed up at the event with her mother and I happened to meet them. I was greeting people as they were coming in. Later I asked for a volunteer. I was going to demonstrate how we find a trapped emotion and this young woman comes up out of the audience and she's about 20 years old and uh I asked her if she had any physical, mental, emotional issues and she said that she didn't. And so I had her hold out her arm parallel to the floor and I started asking questions and this is one of the ways we can communicate with the subconscious mind. And you can try this actually at home. And so uh so I asked her if she had a trapped emotion we needed to release. The answer was yes. Now at home if you want to try this what you can do is u you can have someone you know a friend or relative whatever have them hold an arm out parallel to the floor and then uh what you can do is just have them say their name is their name. So for example if I were there with you Ken you could hold your arm out parallel to the floor and if I were to say if you were to say my name is Ken if I were to press down on your arm you'd be able to stay strong because that's true congruent. Yeah. If you were to say something untrue like, uh, "My name is Jim," then your arm would weaken. Okay? And so anyway, I'm testing this girl and we have a chart of emotions that looks like this. Of course, in English, we have it in Japanese, too. Looks like this. Okay. Today we have mostly English speakers. So, Oh, okay. Yeah. So, it looks like this. There's two columns and six rows here. And, uh, so I started asking, you know, uh, if she had a trapped emotion, the answer was yes. Strong arm. uh is it in column A? No. Column B? Yes. Uh and the emotion turned out to be the emotion of forlorn. And so I asked do we need to know any more about this? Her subconscious mind responded strongly. That's a yes. And uh so I started trying to figure out when this had happened. Did it happen in the last 10 years? No. Turned out it happened in the first year of her life. And so uh I I didn't expect she'd know anything about it. She wouldn't remember anything. And I I asked her if she knew anything about it and she said no. And I happened to look out at the audience. Remember that I had met her mother first got there. And her mother is as white as a sheet. And she's got her hands up covering her mouth and her nose. And I said, "Hey." And her eyes are really big. And I said, "Hey, do you have any idea what this might be about?" Mhm. And she was very embarrassed, but she said that back in those days she used to use cloth diapers for her daughter when she was a baby. And one day she accidentally pinned her daughter to her diaper and didn't know it until she changed her the next time. Oh. So probably several hours of this poor baby in terrible terrible pain and the baby developed this emotion of forlorn which is feeling all alone and hopeless and desolate and uh and that was the emotion and that's what created it. So I release the trapped emotion by just swiping a few times down her back with my hand or a magnet either way down the governing meridian right down the middle and that releases this energy. And so she went back and sat down. I kind of forgot about it. The meeting ended and I went home. About 10 days later I get an email from this girl's mother and she said, "Listen," she said, "My daughter has had a problem with her hip and her knee. It's been bothering her. She lives with it. It's starting to affect the way that she walks. It's been going on for about 10 years. She said this pain but she said the moment you release that trapped emotion of forloren that pain is instantly was instantly gone and it has not come back. She said I waited 10 days to see if it was going to come back and it has not come back. And she said also my daughter feels this new sense of lightness of being that she has not felt before in her life. And she's telling everyone about this. She said I just wanted you to know the aftermath. Now, couple of interesting things about that, right? That emotional energy that she picked up when she was one, that could happen to any of us, right? Yes. That was creating physical symptoms, but also it was creating it was it was lowering her ability to really feel light and to feel joyful. M and you know the higher vibrational level we're able to achieve and maintain the more we're able to spontaneously attract wealth and things like that and health into our lives and love as well right so anyway wow that's amazing is there any way that we can do it on our own so um yes I know Bradley Dr. Nelson in you don't do any private sessions on probably your facilitators can work with them but uh for uh like regular people who don't know u much about u emotions is there any quick tips yeah absolutely so um so one of the things that you can do is you can go online and you can find a chart that looks like this anywhere okay there's millions of these probably um of emotion code later. Yes. With everybody. Yes. Okay. Great. Yeah. So, um, well, you have to have a way to communicate with the subconscious mind because the subconscious mind knows with a perfect understanding. It has perfect recollection. It remembers everything. But you have to be able to tune into that. How do you do that? Well, one of the simplest ways is through something that we call the sway test. And if you'd like, I can share how this is done right now and kind of walk everybody through a little exercise. Yes, please. Okay, great. Well, um, imagine that you have a I can see the excitement from everybody, you know. Yes. Thank you. Yes. Well, imagine that you have a pot and you put a a flower in that pot and you put it near a window. Well, the plant that the the flower is going to bend towards the light coming in from the window. If you don't if you don't continually rotate the pod every few days, the plant is going to end up growing like this, okay? Because it wants the light. Well, um, on the other hand, if you put a drop of poison into an aquarium, the fish will sense that and swim to the other side of the aquarium, right? All beings have this capacity to respond to positive or negative input. Now, our bodies are the same. And so, here's how this test works. Uh the easiest way to do this is if you stand up, drop your hands down by your sides and uh put your feet about shoulder width apart. Now, if you're seated, you can try this if you sit right on the very edge of your chair. Okay? And how this works is that if you're holding thoughts of truth or positivity or congruency, if you allow your subconscious mind to do what it wants to do, your body within 3 to 10 seconds will begin to sway forward. Now, on the other hand, if you're holding thoughts of negativity or falsehood or inongruency, what will happen is your body will tend to sway backwards within 3 to 10 seconds. Now, I don't want I don't want you to force this. I want you to just allow this to happen and just be an observer. So, take a deep breath. Let it out. And now, as you're sitting right on the edge of your chair or you're standing with your feet about shoulder width apart, hands down by your sides, I'd like you to just totally allow yourself to relax. And the first thing that you're going to notice if if you're standing especially is that it's not really possible to stand perfectly completely still. There's always a little bit of movement going on. You might move a little to the left or to the right or maybe maybe at a diagonal a little bit or maybe forward or backward. And that's just your postural muscles working to keep you from falling over. Okay? So that's normal. But now what I'd like you to do for just a moment is I'd like you to think about something negative. Now about the most negative thing that I can think of that happens on earth is war. So you know we hear that word every day all of our lives. But just for a moment I'd like you to think about war. Think about that word. What does that really mean? What are what are people that are wearing one uniform doing to people that are wearing a different uniform? People doing what's happening to cities? what's happening to villages and think of all the tears that have been shed from all the wars that have been fought, all the families ruined, all the lives destroyed on this planet since the very beginning. Now, as you think about war and what it really means on a human level, on a person-toperson kind of level, the moment that your subconscious mind connects with what you are consciously thinking about, in that moment, your subconscious mind will begin to sway your body backwards. And that's your subconscious mind trying to move you away from the sheer negativity of this thought of war. Now it takes about 3 to 10 seconds for the subconscious mind to start moving your body typically. And uh you have to you have to concentrate a little. You have to hold that thought in your mind. And so let's shift gears now. Let's imagine we we'll leave the thoughts of war behind. And now let's imagine that you're you're living a thousand years in the future. And imagine that you're still alive, but that you've changed in some really very significant, very powerful ways. For one thing, now you're living in a place where you're surrounded with unconditional love. Everything in the world has nothing but unconditional love for you. But imagine that your ability to feel unconditional love has grown exponentially to a point that the love that you have in your heart for all beings, for all creation is so big that your heart cannot contain that love. And that love expands out from you and it goes out and it fills every crack and every crevice in the world. and it goes out beyond this world and goes out and fills the immensity of space itself. Imagine what it would feel like to be that ascended of a being to be developed to that level where you have that capacity to love to that degree. And just imagine for a moment what that might feel like. What would it feel like to be a pure vessel of absolute perfect unconditional love. What would that feel like? Now, as you think about that and as your subconscious mind connects with what you're consciously thinking about, within a few seconds, your subconscious mind will start to move your physical body. Don't do it yourself. Allow it to happen. But you'll find yourself, and I know that a lot of people listening and watching are right on their tiptoes right now, thinking about what that would actually feel like to be a vessel of unconditional love. And I believe the reason why we sway forward so much on this one is because this actually is a potential future for every single one of us to become that highly developed. You know, when people die, Ken, and they go to the other side, they're never asked uh questions like how fancy of a house they lived in or anything like that. Instead, they're asked, "What was your ability to love others unconditionally?" Right? That's the key question. See? And so, this is called the sway test. Now, what you can do with the sway test is you can ask questions. So, for example, uh with the emotion code chart, you might ask, do I have a trapped emotion that's interfering with my ability to create the kind of abundance I want to create? And just allow your body to let's why don't you go ahead and let's all just ask that question of your subconscious mind right now. So, ask this question of your own subconscious mind. Think about this question. Do I have a trapped emotion that is interfering with my ability to create abundance? Do I have a trapped emotion that is interfering with my ability to create abundance? Hold that question in your mind and allow your body to do what it wants to do. As you're holding that question and just being the observer, your body will either sway forward for yes or backward for no. I got a no on that myself, but I've been working on myself for a while. I got a lot of Yes. I was going like this. Okay. Well, so then what you can do, the next question might be uh see all the trapped emotions are in this chart. So the next question you could ask is, well, is this emotion in column A? If you sway backward, that's a no. That means it's in column B. And then you could ask, well, is it in an odd row in column B? And if your body goes forward, that's a yes. Is it in row one? Maybe that's a no. Is it in row three? Maybe that's a yes. And so that's how you do it. And then you're taken down to a cell pretty quickly. You're taken to a single cell. And then you just simply ask, okay, well, is it is it confusion? And your body might go forward. If that's it, the next question would be, do we need to know more about this? And you might need to figure out when it happened. And to do that, you know, if uh let's say you're 40 years old, I might ask, well, okay, did this happen, you know, earlier than 20? And you can narrow down pretty quickly because the subconscious mind is is a binary computer in terms of its interface. And so it's a different kind of computer than what we're used to. There's no keyboard. There's no screen. It manifests its symptoms to us and that's how it communicates to us. physical, mental, emotional, financial, you know, relationship things. Um, but then we can communicate with it through the sway test, muscle testing like we were talking about earlier. You can learn self muscle testing methods. Another one you can do is is um you can hold your finger like this, make a ring like this, okay? And then put the another finger through that ring. Now, the amount of strength that you should use on this ring, it should not be a tight ring. Imagine that you pick up a little bug in your kitchen and you're going to take it outside and let it go. That's about how much strength you'd use here. Not much. So now what you can do is put another finger inside that ring and you can just simply say, for example, the word yes. Okay, you can say yes and then test the integrity of that ring. Does it want to stay closed or does it want to open? If you say the word no and test it, oh, you might notice, gee, it pops right through. So, that's another way. There's lots of different methods of self- testing. Um, so anyway, u we're going to be teaching all of these at the event we'll be doing in uh in Tokyo, but it also it's in the book, the emotion code, the body code book, and so on. But you you're traveling all all around the world. We are so happy to have you back in uh uh in in May in Tokyo. Where are the cities uh you're flying to? Well, you know, um I can show you. Uh let's see. Maybe can I share my screen? Sure. Um you're a co-host, so you can do it. Here we go. All right. So, um this is uh let's see here. Uh these are some of our travels last year. Um Wow. I I'm a pilot. By getting rid of all this emotional baggage that I had, including my ancestral baggage, it's enabled me to uh to live my dream of becoming a pilot and flying my own jet. And so we here's the here's a picture. This is uh my wife and uh one of our partners, one of our practitioners. Um so we did about 50,000 miles last year and did seminars all over Europe. And you flew by yourself? Yeah. Uhhuh. Yeah. and my wife and I fly together. There she is sitting in the plane. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. What I meant is uh you are the pilot, right? I'm the p I'm I'm the pilot. Wow. Wow. Wow. So, you don't If I were you, I would probably let somebody else just fly and just I I'll just sit back and relax, but you don't want to you don't want to let other people have fun, right? This is my zen. Um it's what I love doing. Here's the view from the front of the plane. It's all uh it's extremely advanced um you know with autopilot and the plane has a button you can press a panic button in the ceiling. If uh if the pilot passes out and you can't revive them, you can press a button and the plane will find an airport and land all by itself with its AI basically. Yeah. Wow. So it's that advanced. It's very advanced. Amazing. So this is your dream dream come true. This is absolutely my dream. Now, now Ken, think about this. And this has been a dream that I have had since I was probably 8 years old. Wow. To become a pilot, to fly. And so my two favorite things in the world are flying and teaching. And the work that I do, I get to fly and teach. It's unbelievable. I mean, you get to do it, too. It's really amazing. I I have to share with I have to show you one more picture. My wife usually sits in the back, right? And there's a screen that folds down and so TV screen. So she she watches videos and I fly, but we were in Poland um last year doing a seminar and uh we had washed our clothes and the dryer didn't work. So we ended up having to leave with wet clothes. And so my my wife Jean is very very uh ingenious. And so I took this picture on the flight. You can see she's got all of our clothes. That's amazing. you don't have a moisture issue, you know, a dehydrating issue in the plane. Oh, well, you can see the windows actually are all fogged up. But, uh, so this has been a lot of fun for me. And you know, everybody has a dream, right? Or if they if you don't have a dream yet, then what you need to do is figure out what your dream is. This, you know, this is my dream, flying my own jet around the world, and eventually I'd like to fly when this war ends in Russia. someday. Hopefully soon. I'd love to actually come all the way to Japan and fly myself all the way there. That's right. You can fly all all the way, right? So, wow. Yeah. Not not right now. But but yeah, you know, we we can get there. We go about a thousand miles, you know, at a stretch. Wow. But um but you know if you don't know what your dream is yet, what you need to do is spend some time and and you know really there there's a phrase in English probably in Japanese too and the phrase is that is follow your heart, right? You should follow your heart. Mhm. But what we now know is that the heart is really everything the ancients believed it to be. It's the seed of the soul and the source of love and creativity and romance and it's really the core of our being. That's what they believed. But now modern science is beginning to show that the ancients were right. I mean if you go to western biological textbooks and so on, you'll see that the heart in in those books, it's just a pump. That's all it is. It just pumps blood. But it's much much more than that. In fact, um when they started doing heart transplants back in the 1960s, they started finding that certain patients would come back and they would report how their taste in music or food or sports had totally changed. And sometimes they would have memories of being in places that they never in their life had ever visited. And when they would connect these people with the family of the heart donor, they would inevitably find out, well, yes, our son played baseball and now you love baseball and go to all the games, but you didn't care for it before you got his heart that's now beating in your chest. Um, or they'd find out things like, well, you know, yes, our daughter loved Rome. She visited Rome every year as often as she could. And now you say that you have memories of being in Rome, but you say you've never actually ever visited there. So somehow those are her memories. How crazy is that? Well, there are books written about this. It's called cellular memory. Mhm. What we now know, if you can think back on a time in your life when when you were really feeling hurt or really grieved and you're feeling what we call heartache, that feeling where you feel like there's an elephant sitting on your chest like you can't breathe or like you're choking. The heart is under assault. We now know there's a little brain in the heart. 40,000 dendrites, gray matter, white matter, just like the brain. And what we now know is that when you're feeling like your heart's going to break, your subconscious mind will build a wall around your heart. And that wall is made of layers of your emotional baggage. And what that does is it makes it much harder for you to manifest the perfect blueprint that lies within your heart. It's in everyone's heart, a blueprint for them. their dream lies within their heart. This is, you know, my dream has been to to fly. And it took some work to uncover that, but now it's manifesting in my life because I've gotten rid of all this baggage. And and my dream for everybody is that they can figure out what their dream is. And it's different for everybody. But when that wall is taken down, and this is of course part of the emotion code, it's the most important part. When you remove, and by the way, you can do this yourself too. When you remove those layers of emotional baggage that surround the heart, suddenly the heart, which is a second brain, becomes open and it not only changes people's lives financially in many cases, but it also changes their love relationships. Relationships improve. Uh people fall in love who never thought they ever would. Even at advanced ages, people have told us that they feel the emotion of love for the first time in their life, joy for the first time in their life. People have related to us that for the first time in their life, when that wall is taken down, they can actually feel the love of the higher power, the creator for them. It's it's incredibly uh important and powerful. And I believe the earth is really in a in a transformational state right now. And we get, you know, we're we're witnesses of this. We have front row seats for this crazy crazy time we're in. But eventually, we're going to get through all of this. The earth is going to transform into a world unlike any world that we've ever known where the rule of the day is unconditional love. It's coming. I really do believe that this work, the emotion code, also the body code, the belief code are all part of this this healing that needs to take place in the world. Meanwhile, uh what we're doing is with this work, we're giving people back that healing birthright that they lost track of somewhere along the line. And um and yes, people can do this for themselves. And that's that's what's really driving this the this worldwide phenomenon of the emotion code is that people try it and they find out, oh my gosh, this is easy and it actually works. So, uh anyway, that's what keeps me going every day and keeps flying, right? Yeah. Yeah. You're so amazing and I know you have inspired millions of people and uh Japanese people love you know they're they they're loving you. So that's why we keep asking I love them. Yeah. Keep asking you to coming back. But so uh for regular people who are doing 9 to 5 job and many people are lost in their to-do list and they don't even know uh when was when was the last time that they smile. They really enjoy doing something because we most of us have been kind of this uh stuck in this uh working hard working so hard to pay the rent and pay um bring food on the table and uh is there any way that to get out of from that place and then start living a true life that I think that's what uh true wealth and wealth is all about. Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, um, to me, really, if you boil it down, it's what it's about is it's about vibration, you know, it's about it's about the vibrations that you're holding, the thoughts that you're that you're holding, you know. Um, and of course, you talk about uh you talk about so so much of this so beautifully in um uh in happy money, right? Mhm. And and so there is there's so much that we can do ourselves and one of the things that I really love the most about the work that uh that you do is uh is you know the aragato your money right thank your money and that puts it on a completely different vibrational level than where you were before. When you mention the word money to most people, they immediately have not a good reaction, right? More of a negative reaction, but money is just energy, right? And um and so and you talk about that so well in Happy Money and and I absolutely believe that that's true. And so the your attitude towards money uh you know, you you can change that. And uh if you and I'm sure that probably everybody on this is already has happy money and understands these principles. But if you don't, you've got to get the book and uh and then start practicing those principles and start aratoing your money, you know, and thanking your money, you know, when it comes in or when it goes out. Same thing is such a powerful principle. And then coupled with um beginning to learn the language of your own internal computer, your own chat GPT that is within you and asking questions about gee, is there something blocking me, something interfering? And then uh yeah, you can you can learn the emotion code. It's actually it's actually so simple. And um but coupling that getting rid of that wall around your heart because think about this Ken what we find is that about 93% of people have put up this wall around their heart and so they're they're being blocked financially. The you know the best ideas that you'll ever have really I believe are going to come not from this brain but from your heart. See and so when that wall gets taken down those creative ideas can begin to flow again. And that's all explained in the emotion code book and how to do it and so on. Yeah, please get the book and you know I I strongly recommend uh to take his online courses. I'm learning as we speak. you know, you're so um fun and you make things so easy to understand and simple to digest because, you know, we don't want to be a a psychologist or psychotherapist, but we we want to take care take care of ourselves emotionally and uh it's like a toolkit, you know, like when you cut your fingers, you don't go to a medical doctor, right? But you need a like a a medical kit to just bandage you. So I think emotional code is uh almost like a home remedy kit that you you can just heal yourself and I I'm just uh um surrounded by uh the the facilitators you train. So I'm in good hands. But I'm I guess wherever you live in the world I if you have trained so many facilitators probably they can find uh one uh close to your home and if you can probably work with them online as well, right? Yeah, you can. Um, if you go to discoverhealing.com, there's a Google map of practitioners all over the world. And um, so you can find someone close to you, but remember that um, it doesn't have to be someone close to you because this work is done at a distance. Wow. And it works just as well at a distance as it does live and in person, which u, it's it's because of quantum physics and we now understand how it works. And uh really uh I think that um it's it's it's one of the most concrete applications of these quantum physics understandings that you'll see in the world where uh you know we have practitioners working with other people all over the world and and many of these people they'll never actually meet in person but yet they in many cases will have completely changed their lives. It it's an amazing thing. Welcome to the 21st century Ken. Wow. Wow. It's so amazing. So uh I we'll give people uh your information. What where can I find you? Where can we find you on on internet or what's the best way? Yeah, we have uh well we have two websites. Um of course we're on all the social media. Discover Healing is our umbrella brand. That's our company name. So Discover Healing. Uh and we have you know we're on YouTube and we're on uh all the social media channels as Discover Healing. Uh, and then also I have my my personal website is at drradleynelson.com. That's Dr. B r y lso n.com and uh you can go there and then there's more, you know, more personal things there. Discover healing is the one you want to go to if um if you're looking for more information or to find a practitioner or to find out about certification, training, things like that or events. Yeah. So, here in Tokyo, we'll you know, we're coming. Yeah, I think I can I can make it to a event and I just want to uh be there as a student because this is like a must skill to have. I mean, I wish I could I I I I did learn something like this at school. You know, I think everybody should have like this uh medical kit of yours. So, you can not only heal yours, but also you could potentially heal your parents and grandparents and ancestors, right? Yeah. Absolutely right. And uh you know we we should do another call. We could just do it about inherited stuff because you know we're we're all interested I think in our ancestors and I can tell you stories for an hour um that are pretty mind-blowing. Yeah, I think we can do an online courses together, you know, that way I can introduce to my uh Japanese uh um friends and also international friends. I mean this one is for international friends first and then I put all the subtitles because I have a uh YouTube followers who are eager to learn um your method as well. So thank you so much and and this is so much fun and I think uh this is my third interviews or chat with uh Bradley you know Dr. Nelson for the third one in April and still I haven't touched I think I have touched only the surface of his wisdom. So, I'm so thankful to you and your generosity and uh the overflowing wisdom. So, thank you so much and hopefully uh see you very soon. Oh, I'll see you uh in a few weeks to come. Yep. We're we're coming soon and um can't wait. Uh the seminar is going to be I think the 17th and 18th of May in Tokyo. Yeah. Yes. Whoever wants to come to Tokyo for his seminar, you're more than welcome. A lot of people flew to Kyoto to attend my seminar. So if you want to see me or Dr. Bradley Nesson uh to study emotional code, you can come to Tokyo. I mean your dreams will come true in one trip. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Um, well, Ken, uh, I I appreciate you so much and I'm so grateful to you for all the light that you have brought into the world all these years, and I'm just, uh, you're kind of my hero for writing all these amazing books and, uh, and I just want to thank you and tell you that I love you and appreciate you and, uh, really look forward to seeing you in Tokyo. We'll have to go get some good su sushi somewhere. Oh, yes, it's on me. Okay. Thank you so much. And I hope you um enjoyed and also learned so much as much as I did. So, thank you uh Dr. Brandy Nesson and uh we're just sending lots of happy energy from both of us. Okay. Thank you. Byebye. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Thank you so so much Dr. Bradley Nelson for sharing such important work about emotions. We talk so much about wealth. We talk about our health and we talk about our relationships. Yet sometimes emotions is a topic that people try to shy away from. And yet it is one aspect that permeates all these areas in life, right? Our emotions and how we feel about things. And like Dr. Nelson said, you know, our body is essentially a gigantic energy field and trapped emotions, they distort that field. So, I'm very curious, Chad. What is an emotion that you realize maybe you haven't processed or acknowledged lately? Uh, what is something that you want to do today as an invitation to start releasing that heart wall that may be protecting you, protecting quote unquote, from receiving the love, the connection, and the abundance that you deserve, right? And one really important thing is to really start acknowledging and talking about it. You know, not to people but at least to yourself to really allow yourself to process those emotions and then release them completely. Now that we have explored emotional healing through energy, let's dive into another kind of energy. The kind that radiates from the inside out. because our next speaker, she brings a warmth and a joy that you can definitely feel even through a screen. Her name is Marcy Shyoff. Okay, I'm curious who has read Marcy's work before. Uh, can you please type in the chat? Because Marcy is the number one New York Times bestselling author of Happy for No Reason. and she's also one of the most sought after and beloved teachers from the secret, the movie that made the law of attraction so famous. She has helped millions experience happiness as a way of life and her books has sold over 16 million around the world. You know, her work also has been featured on Oprah, on the Today Show, and countless international stages. So, if you are excited for Marcy, can you please give a big big round of applause and let's welcome on the stage the radiant Marcy Shyoff. I'm so happy to introduce my special sister and my mentor, my friend, Marcy Shima. She as I don't have to talk about her uh read her bio because she's so well known in the field. She sold 16 million copies. I think she you are one of the uh top bestselling uh woman author as a chicken soup for women's soul, happy for no reason. I've read most of the works. I I haven't read the few other chicken soup books, but uh she's such an amazing and also a generous person I've ever known. So um before I just talk about five more minutes, let me introduce Marcy Shimos. Marcy, thank you for coming. Ken, thank you for inviting me. I you are one of my favorite human beings on the planet. I you are one of my dear brothers and friends and mentors and any time I get to spend with you is a joy. So I'm looking forward to this conversation. Thank you. uh you know when I thought of uh Adriat wealth I have to ask Marcy but at the same time uh I feel a little uh unworthy you know she's so busy with her online courses and she's traveling around the world you just got back from India right I did I spent a month my husband and I in India wow wow and also uh she's going to meet uh my other friends and mentors very soon so she's always on the go uh so thank you so much for taking the time. I wanted to appreciate you uh before I begin. Thank you for taking the time and just come join us. Well, Ken, you are the king of appreciation and gratitude and igato and so I want to also tell you and appreciate you for how much I am always inspired by you and how you live your life. You are the real deal. Thank you so much. So uh I've listened to actually uh some of her Mar Marci Shima's uh audio book to study English. So whenever I I I listen to certain point I that brings me smile like my love Sergio I probably you forgot about talking about your uh you know partner. It's so uh heart uh warming and opening for me to hear you speak. So you sound very familiar in my ears. So I'm I'm uh also as a fan I'm so excited to to do this and since there are so many topic I want to um uh ask you let me go straight into this topic of how to attract adigato wealth and you've been uh you've known been known for uh being uh one of the star of the movie secret which is about 19 years ago right? Yes, exactly. 19 years ago. And since then, I'm sure your life changed so dramatically and and uh the law of attraction that you talked about for a few minutes changed you so much. How did it how did it change you? You mean being part of the film The Secret? Yes. And also started talking about more of about uh the law of attraction. Yes. So um what it did was I had um already traveled around the world quite a lot with the chicken soup for the soul books and and been a speaker doing that speaking inspirational stories which was what those books were and u when the when the secret came out it was like a whole another round of traveling all over the world speaking to even bigger audiences that time I mean now audiences of 10,000 people before maybe audiences two or three thousand people and then I I ended up speaking a lot about how we manifest and you know how we how you know there's there are a couple of ways of manifesting it's not just all law of attraction there are other laws as well um you know the law of attraction is basically I I imagine most people know about this but the law of attraction is that we are energetic beings and that we attract to us based on our energy. But there but we can look out and see that there's a lot of people in the world that don't have very high energy who have attracted a lot of wealth somehow. And then there are very high beings or very very people that are we like that are resonant with us that also have attracted wealth. And um and both of those experiences the outer circumstances may appear to be the same but their inner experiences of the wealth is entirely different. And this is I love being part of the Argato wealth summit because it's a specific kind of wealth. It's wealth that comes with fulfillment rather rather than wealth that comes with emptiness. And I think that's really important to distinguish because people can manifest. It doesn't mean that it's going to bring them the happiness that they want from it. Yeah. So true. So true. You know, you are the expert for uh happiness. You've written um numerous books on happiness. Uh uh one of my favorite is uh happy for no reason. That it's exactly you know if I need my newest iPhone then I can be happy. So I need the iPhone but um being happy for no reason is such a brilliant title. Um how did you come up with such a beautiful title? Well I knew that I wanted to write a book on happiness. I had done a lot of research and and um and I knew that the book was going to be different than um than many books that just speak about happiness that we acquire through um through outer things. I have found in my own life that true happiness is this inner state of peace and well-being that doesn't depend on our circumstances. And that's how I define happy for no reason. It's an inner state of peace and well-being. It doesn't depend on your circumstances. And we have it backwards in our society. In fact, I said this in the movie The Secret. We think that success is going to bring us happiness. It doesn't. But happiness can bring us success because happiness is a higher energetic vibration. We are drawing in greater success. But unfortunately, we live in a society where we we have two predominant myths. They're very related. I call one of them the myth of more, which is more is better. More is better. More is better. And the other is the myth of I'll be happier when that's what you just said, Ken. I'll be happier when I have the newest iPhone or I'll be happier when I um you know lose 20 pounds or I'll be happier when I get married or whatever the outer thing is. It's not the case. We what we find is and what the research shows is that when you are happier inside, you will attract greater health, better relationships, more money, more success. So it's the inner work that's the key to it all. Thank you for sharing that. You know, I often talk about uh you and also uh teach Zen principle uh because uh in life I think there are two components of being uh happy or being fun. So one is uh going after what you want. It's it's more like uh how how to attract what you want. And the other is how to enjoy what we got. So it's more uh uh inactive. It's more inner work and also going after what you want is more active. But it's a to two different energy. But unless you uh have this uh both sides uh I think probably IQ and EQ side uh if we keep uh hunting down for what we want we become like a hound dog and then we never come home and relax. On the other hand if we meditate all day in our house home nothing happens. So many people ask me, can if you just uh meditate well every day, can you become an international uh internationally bestselling author? What would you think, Marcy, for this people? Um, in your dreams, great answer. It doesn't happen that way. I love I I call what you're just talking about 200% of life. 100% outer fulfillment, 100% inner fulfillment. But I want to distinguish something, Ken, about what you said, and that is about going after the things that we want. Uhhuh. Most people or many people aren't wanting the things that actually will bring them the happiness. In other words, they're wanting from a place of ego. I call the distinction I call is ego-based intentions and soulbased intentions. So an ego-based intention is I want that because I think I should have it or I want to do this career because I think I should or because people have told me that I should. It's it's a sense of obligation and with it is a sense of contraction. The ego will bring feelings of of it just doesn't feel good. Soul-based intentions come from a place of alignment with the truth of our essence. I believe we're each here on the planet uh for a reason. It's not an accident that we're here and we're here to do something specifically that we are here to do. You know, I was not called to be a chef. I was not called to be a politician. I was not I do not have a calling in my being to be a research scientist. I clearly had a calling to be uh a a teacher and inspiration to activate people's possibilities and if I had pursued those other things I might have been successful but I don't think I would have had fulfilling success. So a key piece for me is is check what it is you're pursuing. Are you pursuing your ego-based intentions that'll make you feel contracted or your soul-based intentions that'll make you feel expanded? It will bring you filled with joy. You can have success in either case, but one of them will not will just you'll still feel empty inside and the other one will bring you that fulfillment you're looking for. And I know this can deeply from my own experience. Yeah. Talking about your Thank you for that. Uh talking about your experience um I listened to one of the um audio book and you were uh 13 or 14 when you first thought wow I I need to be I want to be a speaker. Can you share about your experiences? Yeah I um so I was very lucky in my life because I was born depressed. I I I was an unhappy kid and I'll tell you why I feel like that's lucky in a minute. I was a really unhappy kid and I uh my solution to my unhappiness as a kid was I ate a lot of sugar. It was the only thing that made me feel good. But it didn't help. By the time I was in high school, I was I was quite uh quite chubby. Um but when I was 13, I did have this vision of myself. I had gone to see a motivational speaker. Uh his name was Zig Ziggler. Wow. Yeah. way back when. It was 1971. 19. For those people who are trying to do quick math, I'll do it for you. I'm 67 um years. So young, you know, vibrant. I I I can't even relate to that age. But I uh so I went and I saw Zig Ziggler walking the stage and inspiring people and I said, "That's what I'm supposed to do with my life." I knew instantly that was my calling. But can I I I pursued my success from an ego place. When I was in my 20s, I set goals for myself and I figured once I get those goals, then I can be happy. This is what a lot of people do. Yes. And I'll I'll share with you my five goals because I think a lot of people can relate. I wanted to have a successful career helping people. I wanted to have a wonderful husband or life partner, fabulous friends, a comfortable home, and the equivalent of Halib Berry's body. Now, I got four out of the five. I do not have Halib Berry's body, but I have a healthy body for which I'm very grateful. And Ken, I worked hard. I worked really hard in my 20s and 30s to get all the my decks in a row to get everything in place so I could finally be happy. And I'll tell you, I had a turning point moment. It was in 1998. It was in June. I had just turned 40. Yes, I had just turned 40. And I had fulfilled those things on my list. I had three books in the top five on the New York Times bestseller list all at the same time. Wow. I had just finished giving a speech to 8,000 people and I had autographed 5,432 books. My client had hired a massage therapist to keep on massaging my hands every 10 or 15 minutes so I could keep on signing it. And Ken, on one hand, I felt like an author rock star. I'm like, "Wow, this is cool." But I will tell you, after autographing that last book, I went up to my hotel room, which was the penthouse suite that my client had gotten for me, and I walked over to these huge windows overlooking this beautiful lake, and I took in that view, and I turned around and I collapsed onto the bed, and I burst into tears. And I burst into tears because I realized that I had everything on that list. Yes. And I still felt this deep emptiness in my heart that I had felt as a kid. And I realized that I could no longer fool myself into thinking that just that next thing was going to make me happy. And that's when I made a commitment to myself that I was going to find out truly deeply how to be happy no matter what. And I started doing all the research. I started interviewing all the experts on happiness. I started interview I interviewed a hundred unconditionally happy people, people who are happy for no reason, no matter what. And I started doing what I was learning and Ken, it worked. It it really turned me around. I I you know, I've been practicing that ever since. That was, you know, many, many years ago. And I could say I don't know the grading system in Japan, but in in America, you know, it's an A to an F. and A is great and F is flunking. If you were grading me in happiness back then, I would have been a D. I would have been almost failing. Now I can say I'm a solid A. And that that's, you know, I'm still a work in progress. I'm always working on it. But it shifted so deeply inside that I carry the happiness with me now where I go. Wow. You know, I read somewhere that happiness is contagious. So, I want you to share some of the uh people that you remember out of hundreds of people you interviewed about happiness. Oh my goodness. Well, I could tell you a story about uh that I someone I interviewed named Sally Sal. M and Sally um she told the story that when she was the week before her 50th birthday, she got very very ill and she out of nowhere. She had been fine. She got so sick she called an ambulance and they rushed her to the hospital and the hospital did a bunch of tests and they discovered that um her liver was failing. Wow. And uh she was blown away like why? She didn't you know she didn't drink. She didn't have liver uh disease in her family. It was bizarre. But um they said, "You need a liver transplant or you're going to die in the next few days." And they fortunately found her a trans a liver transplant. She got the transplant surgery and she was fine for and and every three months she would go back into the doctor's office for an exam to see how she was doing. And about nine months into this, the doctor examined her and said, "Your liver is failing again. This liver is failing and we're going to need to do another transplant if this doesn't turn around and or you know, we're definitely going to need to do another transplant." And she goes home and she's thinking to herself, why is why am I having this liver failure? and she realized she remembered that in um that she had learned that in in Chinese medicine there's the idea that each organ is related to a feeling an emotion the liver is related to anger and she thought well I'm not angry and she remembered also that um she had been at the doctor's office and the person sitting next to her was getting of her fourth liver transplant and the person was the most negative angry person she she'd met and she thought that person's really angry she thought oh my gosh anger anger liver her anger and she started wondering where am I angry and she realized she was not angry outwardly but angry at herself. So over the next months she did self-love practices every day for like 10 minutes a day and three months after this she went into the doctor for the uh exam to get ready for the surgery. The doctor examined her and said there is no liver disease here. I've never seen this happen. A complete reversal. You don't need that transplant. And that was that was about 30 years ago. And Sally is one of the happiest people I have ever known on the planet now. And she said she was so grateful that that whole thing happened because it caused her to look inside what's standing in my way of being happy. And her body told her, you know, this anger towards towards herself. And she is just this beam of light now 30 years later. Wow. Oh, thank you so much for sharing and you are such an expert on how to attract adigato wealth because you understand about this uh invisible side of wealth uh which is feeling and also fulfillment. So um what are the tips that people can do to attract um happy arato wealth into their life? Well, you know, I I the biggest block I would say that people have to argue wealth is not feeling worthy. You know what I just spoke about self-love that sal that story about Sally and and and feeling turning anger towards herself, but when she went into self-love, it changed everything. I think that that feeling of worthiness, which is based in self-love, not self-esteem. Self-esteem is I like myself because I'm a good person or I do a good job. Self-love is I love myself no matter what. When we have that, we open more to the wealth that is already there. We we allow it in. You know, I think that we live in an abundant universe. And it's not that there's not abundance all around us. It's that we aren't opening to receiving the abundance that's there. And I I'll tell you a quick story. I I one of my early teachers um and mentors is a woman named Maryanne Williamson who's now a dear friend of mine and she has written a number of books including a return to love and I went to a workshop with Maryanne 30 years ago and I remember her saying that if you um that that everything is in consciousness and if you make a lot of money, it was a a workshop on wealth and abundance. She said, "If you make a lot of money, but you don't feel worthy of that level of money, you will inevitably lose it. You will sabotage it in some unconscious way." And I remember thinking to myself, "That would never happened to me." She said, "If you don't raise your consciousness to be able to receive at that level, you will you will sabotage or lose it." And I thought, "No way. That would never happen." And a year later, my first Chicken Soup for the Soul book came out and I was making more money than I had ever made before. And I started to lose the money. Really? It was beyond it was beyond my set point what I felt worthy of in wealth. And I remembered fortunately Maryanne's story and I started working on that feeling of worthiness that that consciousness of worthiness so that I could um could not just make it but also um you know be a great steward of it in the way that that that it goes out and also be a great investor of it. Wow. Thank you for sharing. So you know I love your stories a lot. One of my favorite is uh how you presented yourself with Jack Canfield uh who started uh uh who who's a conf co-founder of the chicken soup for the soul. Can you just share with us uh how you ended up writing uh the book chicken soup for the women's soul? Yes. So, one of my very early coaches when I was in my 20s, a man named Bill Levy, taught me that there are three steps to manifesting. And I love his three steps. I mean, they're written in so many different ways. You could use so many different words, but I loved his because they rhyme, at least in English, and they're simple to remember. And the three steps are intention, be clear about what you want, attention, and no tension. So, intention, be clear about what you want. And as I said earlier, from the level of the soul, you know, your soul-based intentions. Attention is put your thoughts, your words, your feelings, and your actions behind it. And no tension is relax, let go, and trust. So I think you need all of those. Now, most people are good at one, okay, and not very good at another. I was pretty I was good at intention and attention. I had those down. I was clear about what I wanted. I wanted to travel the world and all of that. And I put a lot of my attention behind that, but I was not good at resting and letting go. And so I was working super hard. And one day in um one day after years of of just kind of working hard but not getting ahead very much, not seeing my vision come true, uh our mutual dear friend Janet Atwood came to me and said, "Marcy, you look terrible." Those weren't exactly the words she used. She said, "You look like that." And uh she said, "You have been working too hard. You need to come with me on a 7-day silent meditation retreat." And I looked at her and I said, "Janet, you're crazy. I'm a speaker. I don't do silence. I haven't been silent for more than two hours in my life." As you know, she's very, very persuasive and convincing and and no, come with me. we really need this. And off we went on this 7-day silent meditation retreat. And Ken, the first few days were really hard for me. But finally, I settled down into that state of peace, well-being, trust. And on the fourth day, in the middle of one of my meditations, it was like a light bulb went off in my head and I saw the words chicken soup for the woman's soul. Now, the only Chicken Soup for the Soul book that had been published by then was the original one. Nobody had thought of a specialty book. And I knew as soon as that idea came to me. That's it. That's how I'm going to be standing on stages all around the world speaking to millions of people. That vision that I'd had when I 13. The only problem with this story is that I still had three more days of silence and I couldn't go tell anybody my great idea. But as soon as the silence was over, I ran to the closest pay phone. This was before cell phones were out. And I called up Jack and I said, "Jack, chicken soup for the woman's soul." He said, "Oh my goodness, I can't believe nobody's thought of it before." And he called up the publisher. And the publisher said, "What a great idea. I can't believe nobody's thought of it before." And that was how I ended up getting to write The Chicken Soup for the Woman's Soul books. It all came out of following for me that step of no tension and having that idea come to me in that silent state and and by the way my idea for happy for no reason came to me in silence as well. So silence I think is you know we do need time. You know I here's what I encourage people to do. Look in your own life. Where are you good at intention and soul-based intention? Are you coming from the soul rather than the ego? Second thing are you able to put your thoughts, your words, your feelings and your actions behind your intention? And then the third thing, do you live in a state of ease or no tension trusting that it will come true in its right divine timing? Wow. Yeah, your story is so amazing. And uh can you also u share with us about the phone conversation you had with Jack? And Jack said uh Jack was not thinking of you as a No, he said Marcy, this wasn't a phone conversation. I actually flew out to meet with him. I was Okay. Yeah, I was living a couple thousand miles away and I flew out to have the meeting with him about why I should write the book and he said, "You know, Marcy, it's really a great idea, but why do I need you to do it?" Yes. And I said, "Well, Jack, you don't." He I said, "But first of all, it was my idea. Yeah. Secondly, I am a a good writer and I speak to women's audiences. So, I know it resonates with women and most importantly, Jack, I'm a woman. He said, "Okay, you got me on that. You you can do it." So, wow. But previously, you already had a very good working relationship with uh Jack, right? Yes. He had been my mentor. I had um I had been a corporate trainer teaching uh customer service and communication skills courses in Fortune 500 companies and but something inside of me was calling to teach something a little more personal development like and I wanted to teach self-esteem and I did research found out who's the top expert on self-esteem and it was Jack Hanfield and so I flew out and studied with him for a number of years and he became my mentor and So uh I had already done um you know we knew each other well. You know there's this great saying I think it's I think it's attributed to uh the Roman philosopher Senica. And the saying is luck is when preparedness meets opportunity. And I feel as though I had paid I had been prepared. I was a good writer. I had done a lot of writing. I had spoken to women's audiences. I had I was in the right position to do this and I knew Jack Campfield. I had established that relationship and the opportunity came with the idea and I put the preparedness and the opportunity together to be able to I feel like I was extremely fortunate to have written um uh chicken soup for the woman's soul. But that luck came from preparedness meeting opportunity or idea. Yes. And I think you're almost uh to me you are like uh God chosen you know the goddess of abundance chose you. Well Mari you've been working so hard this is a reward just and then the book just falls on onto your lap and yeah you know people say oh that's an overnight success. Yes it's 25 years or 30 years of preparation for that overnight success. Yeah. So, you know, I love hearing these stories because uh before you write uh before you wrote uh the book or and also before you were on the uh uh the movie Secret, you know, uh um you were just a regular consultant, right? Coach and then before um before Secret, you were just another I'm I'm sure you're good uh but you were another speaker. But after this like big jump, you've been welcome to the next uh stage and you're helping me uh so many people. Well, you know what's so uh uh incredible about you is how you interact with people. uh Deborah Ponaman was uh uh she's been with us uh for this summit and she shared with uh us about a story that uh once she was uh your mentor uh when you were younger right and then she did the started a company called Yes to Success and then you were working uh you were working as an assistant right at the time. Yeah, I was her secretary. I was putting up posters, right? Yes. And then so we have to work stuff from somewhere right. And then after uh 20ome years you were very successful and she was a retired mom and you Marcy Shyoff was the one who said come on back to your old teacher uh who became just a housewife and no list no nothing and then you invited her back and uh now ever since she's been very active right? Full circle. Full circle. You never know who's going to help you, who's going to support you. You know, my experience is you just give. You know, Ken, this is what you're so great at. You give. You are one of the most generous human beings. You support people. You give. That is a principle of abundance. But you know, I want to clarify something about that. I think a lot of people give from emptiness. M and when you give from emptiness, it leads to resentment. So if you are burned out and you're giving or you're giving to get, it's not it's not the same. What we need to do is we need to give from fullness. We need to develop our own fullness so that it's um overflowing. You know, Lisa Nichols, our another uh dear friend of both of ours, she likes she says, "You don't give from your cup. You give from your saucer. You give from the overflow. And I think that that is so true. Yeah. So, uh, one thing I wanted to share with my audience is that one time I was at, uh, TLC transformation leadership council writers group uh, you know, very distinguished writers group. I'm I'm honored to be one of the members. I think uh probably you forgot but uh I was at the t table with uh um like eight of us and then you went to get some coffee or you uh we went to the bathroom and then there's this waiting person in this hotel and she said oh my god she was very excited and I I asked her what what why are you excited about you know uh just last week I I rented the movie uh secret and then wow I mean I was surprised in two things like uh that now there is this still DVD shop and then the second wow you you just watched it last week and uh and who is your favorite and she said Mas Shimoff like oh she was here you know because he could recognize some of some of her faces and then oh I'm so sorry she but she may not be gone if she comes back I'll let you know and then uh she came uh you came back and but she by the time she was gone and I just told you about this and then you were said, "Oh, damn. I I wanted to meet her." And then you said, "Ken, let's go find her." And I think we were eating middle of the chocolate cake. So, I was, "Okay, maybe after this." No, you just uh drag me out of the seat. And then we both went into the kitchen and I think her name is Maria. And then I was looking for that. And then I found her and you were so nice to her. Just uh you were just chatting with her for a couple minutes. And and at the time, you know, I thought m that's what a international bestselling author is supposed to do, you know, be nice to people. But you were so genuine. You just seem to have so much uh fun personal time as if she was your uh high school classmate or something. Do you remember that? I I don't remember that, Ken. I mean, it's coming back vaguely, you know? I it's just vague. But I love the story and I love that you thank you for for sharing that. I I here's the thing. You know, I started off by saying we each are on the planet for different reasons. I am doing what I'm here to be doing and that's why I love it. You know, I love I want to go into the kitchen and talk to this woman who's just seen the movie The Secret and is excited about it. That's what juices me up. Different people, different things. I think it's really important that we find what it is that our purpose is and we we do that. Yeah. So, you know, I'm I have been always a shy person. So, I don't do that. Uh but after meeting you and after witnessing what you did, I'm more active in supporting people. So, thank you for that for encouraging me, you know, because I I don't want to be I don't want to look like a stud just uh uh showing off uh whatever, but uh there there could be like somebody like you who would be genuinely there to support people because you were not there for for you there. Uh you were not there for you. You were there for Maria who just watched and then she said she said she shared about a few minutes of her life. She was at the intersection of her life whether she leaves a hotel or not. And then and she said this is a sign with a cup of coffee. I want that coffee now. But she was talking about her life more. So uh but I really enjoy uh witnessing how you interacted and how other people interacted at that time. So, thank you for showing me the real uh generous person and then how you can impact so many people after selling 60 million books. Still, you can be as humble and generous. You know, thank you for that, Ken. And and here's the thing, we all impact people around us. You you said it at the beginning of our conversation that there's something called emotional contagion. We catch the emotions of the people around us just like we catch their colds. So if you're around a lot of negative people, you you probably have the experience of how it's kind of a bummer to be around negativity. On the other hand, when you're around people who are radiating, who are loving life, who are living in this state of joy and happiness, that is also contagious. They research has shown that happy people influence your happiness impacts at least five people away from you. People you don't even know. So if you become happier, it impacts your neighbors, daughters, school teachers, cousin. So it's, you know, this is I believe we each have we each can impact people around us. um you know whether you've written books or have been in a movie or not, you're just always impacting people around you by your own inner state of happiness and joy and that will bring um greater fulfilling kind of wealth. Wow, you are so so my inspiration. Um and that's why I just want to call you my mentor because you're always uh keep shining. So you're like a star shining above me, you know, just uh giving all the light. So uh you have you're doing so many things uh books and speaking and online courses. What are your passions and and I I know I was invited to be part of a year of miracles which was amazing. Uh and uh can you share with us what you are doing currently? Yes. So, I um I have been so blessed again to have gotten this download of an idea 12 years ago or 13 years ago uh on helping people live more miraculous lives. And so, I teach a year-long program called your year of miracles. And we look at how you can open up to this field of the miraculous and live in that field of the miraculous all the time where um where great synchronicities happen and you just feel like you're in the flow of life as it relates to your health, your money, your success, your relationships, everything in your life. So I've been doing that and we've had um we've had over 30,000 people that have graduated from that program. Wow. Yeah. That's just a total joy. And then the other thing I do is I still teach about happiness. I also train people to become happy for no reason certified trainers, a three-month training program, so they can go and teach happiness wherever they want. Um, I want to be part of that, too. You are so welcome. Always. You you are a you are an honorary happy for no reason trainer too. Yeah, I didn't know that you were doing that. I I understand about the you know your miracles and your speaking engagements but I didn't know about the facilitators course so I'm in I want to learn how to be great how to be more happy for no reason right yeah okay so what what are you passionate about for next step because you obviously have achieved so much but you're so giving and so sharing what's your next goal or dream that you want to attract in your life Um um I'm working on one project that I'm it's I can't speak about yet. It's a little too early. Oh, too. Uh so, but it's a project that it's I it just it's came to me and it's something I'm really in a little bit of, you know, still inspiring people, but a little bit of a different field. And then the other thing is I'm always interested in just you know I think that the my spiritual life is what feeds my creative outer life. So I'm always interested in in my own spiritual world. As I said I just got back from a spiritual pilgrimage in India and and so that's a a part of my life too and I am open to the grand mystery of whatever is next. I know life will show it to me. Thank you so much. and and you're generous enough to uh share with us some some gift you have. I do. I have. So, in terms of becoming happy for no reason, I found that there are 21 main happiness habits that anyone can practice to be happier in their life. And I have a little workbook that has all 21 of those habits in it with a practical exercise that you can do for each one of those. And in there is also a a self assessment so you can see where you are on the happy for no reason scale. It's like a self test and there's also um a number of happiness quotes in that. So it's a beautiful 28page workbook and uh I offer that as my gift to all of you and you know with the intent that we all become happier in this world. Thank you. that when you started talking about the gift, I already felt happiness and happiness vibration in my heart. So, thank you for the gift and you know time is running out but uh uh I'm I'm being showered with this energy of happiness and I I I'm sure all the viewers have been uh lifted up. Is there any final word that you want to share with the group? Um let me share two two things. Yes. First of all, we live in an abundant universe. It is our birthright to live in joy, in happiness, in abundance. And so, it's all it's all within everybody's reach. And it's about resonating with a higher vibration and um and opening up to receiving the great abundance and love and flow of the universe. So, that's the first thing. And the second thing is when people ask me, well, isn't that selfish to just want all of that good stuff, the abundance and the joy and the love, my answer is it's the least selfish thing that you can do because the happier you are, the more you are contributing to this planet. And I will leave you with an old proverb that sums that up that goes like this. It says, "When there is light in the soul, there will be beauty in the person. When there is beauty in the person, there will be harmony in the house. When there is harmony in the house, there will be order in the nation. And when there is order in the nation, there will be peace in the world. And my prayer and my wish for every one of us is that we know that light in our own souls, that happiness in our own hearts, and through that we help create more peace on this planet of ours. Wow. Oh, thank you so much. I really felt deep. I mean, we everyone on this planet needs to hear your message and uh if we can all let it sink in. We can achieve world peace in two seconds. That is true. We could if we all would just live with this inner sense of of of of happiness. Happy for no reason. So, Ken, I just adore you and all that you're doing. And I want to I want to give appreciation to everyone who's here listening because something in your soul caused you to come to this conversation today and so I just appreciate that you're on this journey with us as well. Yes. Thank you so much. What an honor to have you as part of the you know teachers on this summit. So thank you once again Marcy Shimos. You are my star and always and will be and also my sister as well. So, thank you so much for sharing your time so generously with us. Hey everyone, didn't that feel like food for the soul with Marcy Session? I'm saying that because as you know, she is one of the pioneer forces for the entire Chicken Soup for the Soul series. And I just love how Marcy makes joy feel so practical. And isn't it amazing that your heart is 60 times more electrically powerful than your brain? It really goes to show that you know a lot of us we try to get happiness from outcomes, right? Uh, I know that there was a time when I thought when I achieve this one thing, I will be happy. Like when I get a six-pack of apps, I'll be happy. When I hit a certain amount of revenue per month, I'll be happy. And that really didn't get me anywhere because like Marcy said, happiness is not a result. It is the way you choose to travel in this lifetime. And good news for us all is that happiness is a skill. Again, it's a skill that anyone can learn no matter what life looks like on the outside. So, one thing you might notice in today's summit sessions is that a lot of the things we talk about are once again skill sets that you can learn. You know, there's so many things we can learn as a skill in this lifetime to attract more abundance, more prosperity, more wealth. And that means that there's a hope for us all because it's not something predetermined that you can't get. It is something that when you set an intention, you put into action and you be consistent, you will achieve mastery. So I want to invite everyone here today. We all have a baseline level of happiness as Marcy has mentioned and we can raise it with practices. What is one practice or one action that you want to start doing today to raise your baseline of happiness? Can you share with us all in the chat? And I'm so happy because, you know, seeing you all committing to this with intention to integrate, to take action, you know, there's nothing more that brings us joy that um, you know, seeing you guys really take this away with transformation. So, I'm thankful for Marcy. Thank you for your time. And coming up next to the final speaker of day three of the Happy Wealth Summit. I am beyond excited because this is an area of life that means so much to me. We're shifting from the heart now to understanding how relationships, romantic relationships particularly, affect your wealth, your stress, and even productivity. And who better to guide us on that than the world's most recognized expert on love and communication. And yes, I am indeed talking about Dr. John Gray. He is the author of the global phenomenon Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus. Have you heard that book before? Have you read that book before? I'm very curious. Can you type in the chat if you've read that book before? because that's one of the bestselling relationship books of all time. It was translated into 50 over 50 actually languages and sold in over 100 countries. Dr. John Gray, he has spent more than 40 years helping men and women understand each other and themselves. So, as you know, finances is one of the biggest reasons that relationships between couples fall apart, especially married couples. So, if you're ever wondering, you know, how do you have better energy, how do you have better communication, how do you have healthier relationships while also growing in your wealth, in your career, in your success, this one is for you. So, let's please give a big big round of virtual applause and welcome Dr. John Gray to the Happy Wealth Summit. I'm so excited to have my mentor and uh he's been coaching me since I just started thinking about going international and all the dreams I talked about with him came true. So, for me, he is such a guardian father and also a brother, dear brother. uh and also a great mentor. I don't have to introduce you to this person uh my my mentor great Dr. John Gray. Hello John. Ken, it's a pleasure to spend time with you. Yes, I'm so excited to have uh have you here. You know, I don't probably need to mention that you're the author of Men from Mars, Women from Venus, and sold uh millions of copies all around the world, including Japan, of course. And uh you have been teaching I wonder how many people you have impacted in your life. Oh I don't know exactly but I would assume over 50 million since that's how many books I've sold and usually it's two people who read my books husband and wife. That's so amazing. And also you used to do a TV show uh so the reach must have been so big. Uh so uh I think you're the one of the most influential human being uh on this planet but yet so humble and so generous. So I feel so uh honored to be able to have a chat uh personal chat with you and also uh thousands and tens of thousands of viewers are very excited about uh watching you uh interact because you are the legend. you know, you don't get to see a walking uh living legend speaking, you know, unless they are AI generated, right? I guess so. You know, I don't, you know, I don't see all the people. I just get the reports. But, you know, whenever I travel, it's really a pleasure for me because there's always somebody that will come up to me, if not several, who will say that they read my book, Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, and they were divorced and they actually got back together. Sometimes that even happens. There's some people who read my book who say, you know, I got divorced after reading that book, but then I found the perfect person for me, right? That when we can understand how men and women really think differently, that understanding is what allows us to connect. And I'm so excited to be sharing with you some of my new ideas. I haven't written a book in six years. I've what I have 27 books uh you know on dating and marriage and relationships. But everything has changed today uh for the younger generation for the all generations because the world has changed. We have so many challenges with with the social media uh we can talk about that the challenges that we have with money today big issues and of course we're going to be talking about that but mainly it's as women have become stronger more independent men have to a great extent become weaker. Uh and we see this evidenced by low testosterone levels. The average male today at 25 has half the testosterone levels of a 65 year old man. Uh it's really a a descending amount of testosterone. And my books now I talk all about the science that goes with relationship. Nobody's ever done this before cuz we didn't have the science. you know, being an expert on relationships and gender differences for, you know, 40, 40 years, I've been following the science and it's wonderful. It gives us extra insight into understanding how men and women are different. Wow. Amazing. So, uh you know what what what uh what you teaches is such a great combination of science and also uh experiences as a doctor. So, uh I always learn uh something new today. So I'm going to ask you uh questions about wealth, abundance and also relationships. So uh a staff member gave me this question. I this is the uh the first question I I like to ask you and then I we want this to be more organic. But this one is really I'm curious about a lot of people uh treat money stress and relationship stress as two separate issues. But how how often are they actually two sides of the same coin? So money stress, relationship issue. Well, I think that they combine together in that a relationship can be a place to lower stress. And already if your relationship is helping you to lower stress, it helps you to deal with one of the biggest stresses in the world today. As a counselor for over 45 years, people's finances adds an extra level of stress. So stress doesn't have to be a bad thing if we can learn to use love to neutralize the stress. As a matter of fact, stress can actually help change your brain wiring. If you have a stressful event and you're able to cope with it with a positive outcome, you actually rewire your brain so it only sees positive things. Now, that's who you are, which is why you're so successful. Always I'm uplifted when I'm with you. And I know many abundant people, they they see problems, but they always see solutions. Now, we are designed to see problems. And we're designed to then immediately see the solution. So, this is wired into our brain. We have the left prefrontal cortex. This is right here in the brain. When you're looking off to the right, that's that part of the brain is always optimistic. It sees solution. It sees positive outcome. But when you're experiencing stress hormones, so I can't pay the mortgage or I can't pay this bill or I lost money over here. I or it can be just comparing. I made money here but somebody else invested in that and they made more money and so they feel terrible about that. Whenever you have this comparison going on, you have elevated stress. And that elevated stress will have a biological reaction where you only see the negative as opposed to the positive. And that's really important that we learn how we can regulate stress. And when it comes to that, there's so many good techniques, but nobody else teaches how men and women uniquely cope with stress. Very interesting. So I my understanding is that if your relationship is good, even though you have lots of debt, you'll probably fine. But if you have uh lots of debt plus relationship stress, you feel like you want to die. So absolutely. And if your rel if your finances are good, you also have problems. Uh it everybody goes through stress in our lives. And when you have when you actually have a really abundant life, what happens is another level of stress comes into your life which is you don't have practical reasons in the outer world. But the world is a place of stress today. There's a lot of turbulence going on. And the more spiritual you are and you're spiritual and I'm spiritual and many people listening are spiritual folks. When you're feeling connected to the world, you are affected by the world. And so you have stress just because you watch on the news and you see the wars going on. You see the the terrible things that people are doing, the dangerous things that are happening, the uncertainty. Uncertainty is a major source of stress for people. And during that uncertainty, basically what happens is your stress levels go up. And if you have no reasons in your own life, like let's say everything you're financially abundant, what typically happens for women is the 9010 principle. What happens is if everything is good, then they'll focus on the 10% which is not good and they will displace it onto their husband or onto males that are dating or potential males that are dating. And this is a basic a very sound psychological principle which is that when you have stress and it's building up inside if you don't have a way to let it go and that's what we'll talk about if you can't lower the stress without changing the outer world you'll tend to project it onto your partner and that's called displacement and I see displacement actually happening the most in people who have a lot of abundance in their life and to a certain extent Almost everybody, even though we have our worries, we're living better than the king of England 100 years ago. I mean, we've got plumbing. I've got heaters. I've got showers. I've got a grocery store where I can have almost any food I want to eat. This is a world of abundance. And yet, when we have stress in our lives, we will tend to only see what is lacking. And now for women when that stress shows up and many women will relate to this it's a feeling of overwhelm not enough time not enough money not enough attention or affection from my partner not enough men who I would be attracted to all that feeling of not enough is actually a symptom in women of stress and we can measure this now you know my most recent book I've done all the research oh my gosh like one chapter I've got 30 references to prove these ideas. The ideas are there in so many studies but nobody can weave it together and apply it into a relationship. So the basic idea is feeling stress for women. The first major symptom is overwhelm. Not enough time, not enough money, not enough of attention or affection or love. Or when you look out at all the single guys, they're just missing something. It's just not enough. I want more. So we see twice as many people today are not getting married and this is disastrous. What we have is for the men who are on social media often if they use the digital which has destroyed relationships is digital dating uh because you're constantly comparing comparing. So true. Yes. Comparing is the thief of happiness. you start as soon as as soon as you're un under stress, you're always going to look, oh, but this one has that and this one has that and this one doesn't have that. We can't be settled in our ability to appreciate what we have. Now, that's primarily for women. Now, what happens with men when men experience uh stress, they have symptoms of what people commonly look at is ADD, attention deficit disorder. M what that means is that they tend to become passive until the emergency happens which increases dopamine in the brain which raises his testosterone temporarily and he takes action. So men become when they're stressed today what's happening for our younger generation for all generation is we will tend to one of the symptoms is we tend to become passive we lose our ambition we lose our motivation we tend to think negatively so you know if I was to take a flight to Japan and think that nobody wanted me to be there I wouldn't want to go you know I'd only go if I have to go so so the idea here is that for males their ability to be an to be motivated requires a bigger stimulus. The bigger stimulus is waiting to the last minute. And if I wait till the last minute, it becomes an emergency. And then that's a high dopamine stimulation that raises testosterone. So you have action to move forward. But then your testosterone goes lower and lower and over time you have what's called inhibited dopamine function. So, practically speaking, as a married man, if I had inhibited dopamine function, my wife would want to talk to me, and I would feel like, well, just get to the point. I don't need so many words. Uh, why are you getting upset about this? Just forget it. Don't worry about it. We don't have the ability to calmly listen to her. And then often men will complain. They say, "Yeah, but if she talks, she'll go on and on and on." This is for some married men. And and I explained to the men that's because when she starts talking, you keep interrupting her. You keep interrupting her. If you can actually learn to listen to a woman, uh which is one of the themes of my my new book, which is teaching women how to talk to men so men will listen. It's the title of that book is how to talk to a man so he'll listen. And it's it's an art. Otherwise, men don't know how to listen to a woman. Woman has to say she has to be very clear. We're gonna I would like to have a conversation with you where we're going to solve a problem together or I'd like to have a conversation where I'm going to tell you how I feel just to talk about the day. I'd like to have a conversation of sharing intimate feelings to feel closer to you. You know, women are busy working all day long. What happens is the female hormones do not get produced when they're producing male hormones. What we want is a nice balance of our male hormones and our female hormones. And so what we have is a a big difference when it comes to how men regulate stress and women regulate stress. Now this is simple science. If you look at any man who is stressed, his testosterone levels are very low. Most people think, "Oh, an angry man is high testosterone." No. An angry man is feeling insecure. He's defensive. He doesn't he loses his confidence and his testosterone goes down. So, anytime a man is angry, anytime a man is passive, anytime a man is irritable, any of those situations, his testosterone is low. For a woman, if she's unhappy, if she's feeling resentful, if she's feeling rejection of him, if she's, you know, suddenly judging him, comparing him with this and he didn't do this and all that. If you when she's feeling stressed or around money and money is one of the biggest stressors of feeling not enough. Yes, the money is short or when she's stressed, that's just a big threat. You see, money is our biggest threat today. It used to be, you know, uh being at war, you know, living in the jungle and dangerous things can happen. That's a a threat. So, when a threat comes in, a woman's body makes a hormone called oxytocin. When oxytocin gets produced, it creates a sense in her that I need help. Well, a lot of women today, they're so independent, they don't even know that they're feeling that. You know, many, many women say, "What do I need a man for?" Well, clearly these women don't have an experience a man who's able to listen. And there's not that many of them around because we haven't been taught, you know, there are thousands of years, you know, if a if if a woman was to complain to a man about something, he's going to go kill the animal. He's going to go fight the guy. he's going to go climb the ladder and do something dangerous or difficult, something she doesn't want to do. So the the essence of relationship is between man and woman is women can like not be overwhelmed with so much to do if they have a man who will do many things for her. So the art of motivating a man is something that we have women have to learn otherwise men are not motivated because they don't know what women need. Uh so anyway, the the dynamic here is the when there's stress hormones being produced in the body that makes us think negative, right? Women's estrogen levels are too low. Men's testosterone levels are too low. So what is the right balance? Well, for a man to not feel stressed, to be positive, a man needs to make 10 to 20 times more testosterone than a woman. This is profound. This is very profound. And for a woman, she needs to make 10 times more estrogen than a man. And if she's going to have romantic feelings, even to feel, I want to have romantic feelings, to be in the mood for romance, even to say, I want romance feeling, she needs to be making more than 10 times more estrogen. And women today have chronically low estrogen levels. When they're stressed, it's always, if you're stressed and you're a woman, your estrogen is too low. So you can't even think about, oh that man looks so inviting and so supportive. And what the way women can fall in love is when they can see a man doing something for her or doing something that displays excellence. So when you have all this dating app, women never get to experience, you know, in the workplace a man with excellence, a man working hard, a man doing things. Now people are working in their home, they're not interacting. That's true. This is a a crazy world we're living in the digital world. We can learn through digital but we need to experience women need to experience men solving problems for her, doing things for her and the big shift has taken place because now women are feeling so independent they're doing everything and they're not connecting with the estrogen. Estrogen goes up when you feel I can depend on someone to help me. So if a woman goes to you for counseling for example, her estrogen will go up. If a woman goes to her doctor and she feels she's going to get help, her estrogen goes up. If she takes a class where she feels I can trust that person, her estrogen goes up and then eventually it will go back down again. Is that women need to feel always that I have support and if they don't have that support that's through friendship, it's uh through times with nature. Nature is very important for women to be, you know, I remember being in in Tokyo, going to the big gardens there. It was so beautiful. Uh it just it's it's like going to a therapy session for women to be in nature. They're much more sensitive than men in terms of what they see and what they feel. And this is all proven scientifically. So I have a question. Is this something that you can do with chemically like uh supplements and stuff? Would that help or it has to happen organically like mating a person your partner listen to you? Uh if it could be done uh medically or uh chemically that would probably help people more because uh dating the right person becoming the you know somebody you you said it would be a little bit difficult and not realistic. The problem with women taking estrogen is that then their body stops making estrogen and that causes okay body has to be making estrogen for your body brain to get the signal that everything's okay. Estrogen has an effect on women's brains to calm their brains. And why is that? Because women have a greater tendency to feel fear than men. If you look at the physiology of a woman's brain when she's experiencing moderate stress, this is this is simply how are we going to get this bill paid and we're gonna have to take money from the savings or can I get this job? How much money I'm going to make or I didn't get paid. These are the moderate stresses, the daily stresses that we're dealing with and it could be traffic jams. It could be weather reports. Our children are going through difficulty. These are the it's not like our life is in danger. That's a high stress. But under moderate stress, the research shows that a woman's blood flow increases five to eight times to the emotional part of her brain. Now, for a man when he experiences the same stresses, his blood flow stops to the emotional part of the brain. The consequences of this are enormous. Okay? What happens is when a man has moderate stress, he can actually become overly optimistic. Okay, this is why make men make foolish choices quite a bit with their investments and their decisions. They they're talking about under moderate stress, women have uh eight time five to eight times more blood flow to the emotional part of the brain. Now this is a me that's the science. But let me explain the emotional part of the brain, the lyic system has the hippocampus. Now the hippocampus is your emotional memory. Now, women's emotional memory is twice as big as a man's. Literally, in your brain, the hippocampus is twice as big in women. Well, it has to be because she's using it all the time. You know, men will often complain, "Why does she remember everything? Every mistake I've ever made, she remembers." And and and then women are over here saying about men, why does he forget everything? He's always forgetting things. But blood flow stops to the emotional part of his brain if he's experiencing moderate stress. So, you know, you can start to explain all of the complaints that people have and it gives us a greater sense of acceptance instead of taking everything personally. Okay? So, that's the key thing. When women are upset, men should know that your wife is supposed to be upset about these things eight times more than you would. But if you don't interrupt the process and you let her talk, that will produce estrogen. That will lower her stress. Just let her get it out. That's often traditionally called venting. Now, we'll get to how to do that practically because if you're venting about your partner, he'll only become defensive. Nobody wants to hear criticism. So, if you don't if you don't feel heard, then you don't get the benefit of increasing estrogen actually goes down. So, women will talk to their husbands. He'll get a little defensive or he just has detachment. This is what happens when stress happens to men. They disconnect from their feelings. they become overly optimistic and activating a part of the brain that wants to solve the problem. So part of the solution is say to them, I'm going to talk about other problems in my life, not you. And if I can talk about other problems in my life, and you tell them, I just need you to listen and don't say anything. I don't need you to say anything when I'm done. And it'll only take 10 minutes. 10 minutes is pretty easy for most men. It gives him a goal to listen for that's all I have to do is not talk for 10 minutes. Whenever a man has a goal he can achieve his test goes up and what's called mirror neurons. His mirror neurons open up wide. Now what are mirror neurons? This is amazing. That's why it was inspired for me to write the book how to talk so man will listen. It turns out that for women their mirror neurons open up more and more and more with stress. That means they think more about other people. They worry more about other people. They see more consequences. Mirror neurons allow us to feel what somebody else is feeling. Well, when a man is moderately stressed, he feels nothing. His mirror cells close down. He cannot give you the empathy that you need. The only way you can get empathy from a man is to tell him, "This is you're not the problem. I'm not going to complain about you. I just want to talk about things in my life that are frustrating, that are disappointing, my worries, my concerns, and things that I did today that are embarrassing to me. These are really good, juicy emotions that actually open his mirror cells even more. The more emotional you can be with a man, if you're not talking about him, the bigger his mirror cells come and he feels compassion. And when men feel compassion, they have motivation. you wake up a man's motivation. If he ever hears complaints about him, his motivation goes down and you now have more complaints. Now, this is something women have to try out in their relationships to see that there's nothing to complain about with your partner. If you can talk about other things, you don't need to use emotion upset to try to change him. It's it's beyond my it just expanded my whole teaching. You know, I would say, you know, women women need to talk. Men don't listen. But then women say, "Well, what do you think?" And they get at the dock. And of course, he's going to explain, "Well, you shouldn't be upset about this. You shouldn't be upset about that." You got to get him out of the logical thinking part of his brain and into the compassionate part of his brain, which is shown in the brain frequencies. If you can talk to a man and he's not the problem. So just think about your own experience, Ken. When somebody comes to you and they're sharing their upset feelings about things, you will listen patiently. You're not going to worry about them. You'll be optimistic. You know that you have the knowledge that can help them improve their lives. So you can be very patient. But one of the reasons you're so patient is they're not blaming you. That's all right. Yes. You know, I I I sometimes have women who come to me for counseling, which by the way, when I mention I counsel, everybody wants me to do counseling. I I have no room in my counseling practice. Okay, it's sold out for years. Um, but when you go to a counselor, if they're a good counselor, they're good listener. That's why you go back cuz somebody can feel what you feel and not interrupt with solutions all the time unless you ask for them and it's very clear. That's another form of communication. But the processing of emotions when a woman can share her feelings, I as a counselor, and I learned this because as a counselor, I could listen to women talk about their problems with no defensiveness, with my heart being open. And and women would say, "Why can't my husband do that?" And I said, "Because you're not you're not blaming me. If you were blaming me, I couldn't listen to you. And also, you only come to me once a week. Not every day." And the most important thing is you pay me. I couldn't do this otherwise. And so what do you pay your husband? All he needs because ultimately every man deep in his heart all he wants is his wife to be happy. So if you can tell him within 10 minutes you can express emotions of frustration and disappointments and worries that don't have to do with him. What that will happen? It will lower your stress and life will look more beautiful again. Literally, if you if you're under stress, you will ignore 90% of the good in your life is wiped out. And all of the stress, the negative emotions will be projected on the person who's closest to you because they're the safest person. Because when you're in the work world, you can't walk around the workplace being angry at people. You can't be just, oh, I'm so disappointed with you or I'm feeling so sad or or you're feeling uh I'm worried about this and this and this. People will think you're not competent. So in the workplace, women have to suppress their feelings and that is in itself a major source of stress for women because what's happening is when women suppress their feelings, their estrogen levels go down, their testosterone levels go up. That's the imbalance. And whenever a woman is stressed, her estrogen is low, her testosterone is too high. Now testosterone being high is not a problem if her estrogen is also high. That that's just finding the balance. So whenever you're stressed, you're out of balance. You can measure this hormonally. For a woman, her estrogen is low, her testosterone is high. During the ludal phase, which is after ovulation, if she's cycling, after ovulation, she still needs estrogen, but she needs more progesterone. Progesterone is produced not when you're depending on someone, but when you're doing something that you enjoy doing, social bonding, socializing, sharing, that produces progesterone and estrogen, which keeps your stress level low. And that's very important because most of the suicides and depression in women is triggered by low progesterone and low estrogen. So we want to focus for women is to create time in your life where you're doing what you like to do where you get to be yourself and also for your estrogen to feel that you can share whatever you're feeling inside and to learn how to do that because many women they'll talk on the surface about what oh what's happening I'm not paying this bill and this is supposed to happen and they didn't pay me this that doesn't produce much estrogen a little bit what produces estrogen is you say oh this bill didn't get paid I'm worried about that I'm worried I won't be able to do this or my investment that investment was better so I feel regret and I feel bad. Well, you'll stay feeling bad instead of saying you I feel so embarrassed. I feel embarrassed. I had all this money in Tesla and then I invested in something else and Tesla went up the next week 10 times. Uh it was amazing to me and then it starts going back and up and down. But I used to do uh stocks and and for me personally, I just live in a world of peace. This is what I'm designed to do. But when I was doing the stocks, every day I'm worried about the stocks, it's going up, it's going down, you know, and and then I I I just have so much compassion for people looking for love on the internet where you just swiping left, swiping left, swiping right and it reinforces there's not enough. There's not enough. 90% of the men who who get uh a yes from a woman is just 10% of the men. 90% get rejected. So all these men going online, they're just being rejected over and over because they don't make a certain amount of money and because they don't have a certain u it's it's phenomenal. And and for women, those women who they can easily get clicks if they have a certain physical appearance. And so these women who are getting the physical appearance, it's generally 90% of the women, I meant to say earlier, 90% of the women can get a guy, but then he'll come and it's not for an intimate relationship. it's she he'll call and then he doesn't call back. Uh it's, you know, she feels all hurt. Well, 90% of the women online are hurt and they have this negative opinion of men because men disappear. Men pull away. So, I wrote a whole book on how women unknowingly sabotage themselves. Uh and that's only one of the examples uh in relationships. That's what to do or not to do when a man pulls away or when a man disappears. And this can be for your husband as well. and he pulls away motivation. You know, there's there's solutions for this. You know, Ken, for thousands of years, we somehow got to this amazing place in the world where our technology and our lives are more comfortable than ever. It was a gradual process and there was wisdom in that and it's taken us to a new place where women can be free and independent, not need men for financial support. So, what do women need men for? They need men for emotional support. And so that's my expertise is teaching women how to get the romance out of men, how to get the emotional support, how to improve communication and how to deal with difficult things. Now money is a difficult conversation to have. So we have the Venus talk where she mainly talks to lower her stress. Then we have Mars Venus talks which are have to give names for things. Uh which is where she said let's talk about this problem. let's solve it together and you have to you know you you have to um take turns you know equal time your time my time and use certain phrases and particularly if it's a difficult subject and money is that's called a Mars talk and in a Mars talk neither partner can bring up the past and neither partner can use I feel statements you cannot bring up I feel statements if you look at how society has grown for with when there's conflict You go to a courtroom, it's a courtroom is all conflict and there's certain rules that you have to follow. You can't just say what I feel and you can't throw things out like that. You'll get defensiveness. So that's that's what book is that? That's how to talk to a man. So he'll listen. It's how to have a conversation about money where you leave you leave the emotions out of it. If you've got stress, you can't have a conversation with money if you're stressed. Now, what about a man when he's stressed? All a man has to do to lower stress is listen to his wife and help her lower her stress and he will automatically his stress will go down. This is the most powerful way. There's other ways for men to lower stress. One is physical movement of his body. If it's moderate stress, all a man has to do is push-ups. Uh he has to just use his muscles and it will use up the adrenaline. Uh that's very important. But he still has to make sense of the relationship. So there's a lot of techniques for that. And my favorite is my app. Oh yeah. Yes. Can you talk talk about the app you're developing? Well, the app may be out at the time of this or soon after. All three of those books will be coming out in June or July or August. Spacing them out. I'm not sure. But the they're coming out. And what's great is what's called the feeling it's called the u feeling letter process. And it's something I've been teaching for 30 years. It's in all my books. I teach it in my workshops and people say it's the most transformational thing they've ever experienced. It's helping you to express your feelings about the world, about your relationship, about your life privately where nobody's going to listen, just you. You journal it out and you go through these certain steps and within 20 minutes you're feeling really, really good. If you're very upset, it might be 40 minutes. You It's a like a counseling session with me and it does this for you. I I there's no time to go into all the details of it, but the problem I've had over the years is many people wouldn't do the process because when people are stressed, they don't want to look at their feelings. They want to go eat, you know, they they want to, you know, go watch TV. They want to avoid their feelings. But with the app, it's friendly little app. It just asks you four questions. It just all it needs is give me short answers, long just tell me what's bothering you and what's happening that you don't like. I mean, what what's what what's your disappointment? What were you thinking is going to happen that didn't? What are your concerns? Simple little things. And what are your regrets? And you just answer those questions. And then it will get a print out of all your feelings in a letter uh with anger, with sadness, with disappointment, and it it gets you in touch with what you're wanting, what you're liking, what you're needing. It writes it all out for you, just like I would do for one of my clients. Then you imagine you're writing this letter to your, you know, I write my letters to my mother who's passed on. If you're upset with your partner, you could write the letter to your partner. But you never give it to your partner. See, one of the magics of this is that, and this is why therapy when it works, why it works? Because you're talking to somebody about your upset, say, with your with your partner. Usually people come to me with relationship. And so you're able to share your feelings without the intention to change somebody. Nobody's trying to change me when they're sharing with me. When you share your feelings with your partner or let's say you're mad at someone and you're sharing your feelings with them, what's happening in your brain is you can't let go of the emotion until that person changes. So you're stuck. This is what happens particularly for women with resentment. When when your frustration builds up, it turns into anger. It turns into resentment. Now, resentment is a block. And so, your fe with resentment, you can't let it go until your partner changes. And of course, if a woman has resentment to her husband, all his energy goes away. He can't have any testosterone. He walks into the room. So many men come home from work and they're working hard and then they come home and immediately they're so tired and they don't realize a big reason they're so tired is because their wives have resentment. Now, no man who's tired at you, he's working hard and then he goes on a date with a woman who has no resentment because they have no history. His have total energy. I have total energy all the time. Why? Because my wife doesn't have resentment. Okay? She has what's the opposite of resentment? She appreciates me. She's grateful for me. She she accepts me as I am. You know, I I I'm not a perfect person. I'm a bit messy. She, you know, she tries to get me to clean things up after myself. and she's learned rather than complain. This is another skill women have to learn behind every complaint is really a request. So just ask him and then how to ask and how the the art of asking that's a whole system I have for that. What one part of that would be to ask and then no he's going to forget because once again the way men's brains are wired little things don't register and to the extent he has ADD or he's stressed in his life he needs big things to stimulate him he can't remember to do little stuff and he doesn't say why what's the little thing it's no big deal I'm working on the big stuff you know I'm trying to make the money I'm trying to do this I got this problem over here this is nothing but to woman when you don't do the little things She takes it personally. She takes it the opposite way, which is true. The truth. She thinks if he can't forget to turn out the lights cuz our electric bill is too high. If you can't forget to do that, what if I had something big? So, she'll take it. If you don't do little things for her, then you don't love her. Which is nonsense. Of course, he loves her. That's why he's focusing on the big things. So, men, it's the little things that count a lot for women. even with the financial struggles that we're all going through and experience. What happens if she can talk about these things and share her feelings, but if she talks about it with her husband, he's going to feel bad. He's going to feel like it's his fault and she's looking at him like it's your fault. That's women subconsciously, hey, you're not making the money. Why aren't you making the money? Even if she's making money, she's like, what are you doing? What are you? It's just like it's almost a a a tragedy what's going on in marriages today because we don't understand how to help women who are on their male side, they have this stress response and all they can see is not enough, not enough, not enough, whatever it is. And so if you allow her to do this Venus talk thing on a regular basis talking about other problems, now I have one woman client and she says to me when I'm explaining this to her, she says, "My life is perfect. my only problem is him. And that's the case when you have these affluent women, they just go, my life is perfect. He's the source of my stress. When the reality is all like just getting in your car and driving somewhere and being in a traffic jam is going to cause adrenaline to be pushed up and so there's many many places where we can find to be upset and so and women, I don't know, everything's perfect. And let's take a woman who runs a restaurant. This is the woman I'm thinking about. And I say, 'Well, during this, this is, you know, right now with the economy where it is, how's your restaurant doing? Are you having to fire people? She says, 'Yeah, I hate it. I hate having to fire people. It's awful. And how does it feel to have to start up another restaurant? Are you having to work harder? Yeah, I'm having to work harder. And she says, "But I can't change those things that that you just accept it." Her her thinking is like a man's. See, men are designed to go, "Well, if you can't fix it, forget it. You can't do anything about it, let it go." Whereas women when they do that because they're on their male side, they're suppressing their emotions of their female side. So to come back to their female side, she has to learn to go, "Yeah, I'm really frustrated. I feel really feel really bad that I'm really sorry." That would be another emotion there, which is I'm sorry I had to let this person go. I know they're going to go through all these troubles and I'm really frustrated. The economy's here and we we used to do this, now we don't get this, and now it's harder. There's so many things that women don't recognize or register as problems because they're problems you can't change. See, this is uh it was very funny. I when I first started learning this, I wasn't didn't have that much money and whatever and but I knew I'm a counselor. I know taking your wife on a romantic vacation is very important, you know. So, I saved up my money and I had a system in my mind rather than go 3 days or 4 days at one cheap hotel, I'll just do three days at a much more expensive hotel just shorten the time and prove prove it. So, I I you know, this was expensive for me at the time to go on this little vacation up to Napa and I arranged the whole thing and we're ready to go and I said and she wasn't smiling. She wasn't all happy and I said, "Aren't you excited to go on this trip?" She goes, "I don't know." Right away I'm like, "Why are you spending the money if you're not excited to go?" And so I uh I was practicing what I was teaching. I was learning these things at the time. And I said, "Oh, well, help me understand that better." I literally pulled my car over and I looked at her and I said, "Well, help me understand that better." And she said, "You know, just trying to get ready for this thing. I had to get two babysitters. It's such a hassle. our regular one quit, you know, so now I had to find somebody else and we have to find somebody to take care of the dog, you know, and what that's going to be like and and she had a whole list of things all you have to do to prepare and then all I can remember right now I if I that's 40 years ago but if I could remember that I just remember the last part which was if I expressed myself I was just breakout laughter but the last thing she said I said is there anything else help me understand that better is there anything else and what else' And see, most men think don't encourage or to explain more. But no, I just I knew that I was testing out this process. Well, tell me more. Tell me more. Holding it in, not reacting. You have to be non-reactive as a man. Just sucking it up. Trying to feel a little compassion for what she goes through. And your brain says, but your brain sings everybody does that when you go on a vacation. And the last thing she said was, "And the mail, what about the mail? When we get home, there's going to be so much mail." And I thought to myself, everybody has mail when they get home from a vacation. But I didn't say that. That would have ruined everything if I right did I just I just sort of sucked it up. I sucked it up. But my energy was dropping because I didn't know that this was going to turn out good. And I just sort of bent over and I just as I'm bending over and I go, "Yeah." And and then I watched her after she said the mail thing. She took a deep breath and I said and she just she said she just felt good. And I said, "How are you feeling now?" She said, "I'm feeling excited to go." And I was like, "Wow." And my energy just picked up cuz see when women talk about problems, men don't know that they're going to feel better later. And women have to practice letting men know. I remember one time that changed my life which is I was listening to my wife practicing this listening thing. I didn't have it completely down then. So she was going on for quite a while. We've learned to keep it to short bites, you know, 10 minutes, 10 minutes and I I know there's an end to it. But she was going on and my posture was sinking. My energy was drained. Why? Because I don't see an end to it. I don't see a solution to it. It just seems like it's going to get worse and worse and worse. Now, why would I think that? Because if a man complains, his estrogen goes up, his testosterone goes down. This is the oldest wisdom in the world for men. Now, men have forgotten it because of the cult of psychologies thinks that talking about feelings is for everybody. Men can quietly look at their feelings, process their feelings, or talk to a friend about it, but not to your wife. Don't show your insecurities to your wife. It's like you're supposed to be the foundation, the rock. So, when she was going on, I remember that so clearly. She said to me, "I can see that you're getting exhausted." I'm like, "Yes." And she says, "I just want you to know this doesn't seem like it's going anywhere, but it's really helping me." As soon as she said, "It's helping me." My energy just lifted. It was amazing cuz men don't know that when women go into their feelings, if you don't interrupt the process, they'll come through it. And but we do interrupt because we don't understand. And also, women have to be part of this, too. She needs to give him a set amount of time. She's going to need to talk. If there's more she needs to talk about, do it at another time. Give him say 10 minutes. I'm just going to vent my feelings. Whatever it is, and it's not about you, it's only going to be 10 minutes. And it's not that big of a deal. Now, ironically, if you say it's not that big of a deal, men will completely relax. And when a man relaxes, what happens biologically is mirror neurons will open wide. Now, they only open wide if he's relaxed and also you need his help. So, if I'm just relaxing, my mirror neurons don't open up. It's when I'm relaxed while I'm listening to my wife share emotion and I'm not the problem, then my mirror neurons open up and I will experience what a man experiences when he first falls in love with his wife or when he goes on a date with a woman he's interested in. His mirror neurons are wide open and there's no resentment inside of her. And he basically is in touch with his authentic self which is inside of every man to give your life for a woman. We will live our we will give our lives for women. This is what men have always done. It's the noble quality of men. When there's danger, he emerges. It comes out if he can solve the problem. But when a woman start to complain and he's the problem, he can't solve it. Now to woman, she doesn't understand this. She thinks, "Well, he he can solve it. All he has to do is change. You can't expect a man to change. You can just bring the best out of him." Just like if my wife's upset, I can't expect her to change by my just saying, "Honey, don't be upset about that. Honey, don't worry about that. Honey, it's not a problem. Let's just watch TV and forget it." That does not work with women. You cannot change a woman's feelings. You can provide the support and she will find her way back because we love each other. It's in there. But couples don't know how to find it because we don't know how to communicate. And everybody says communication is the answer. And yet communication destroys relationships if we don't know how to speak each other's language. Wow. Yes. I feel like listening to you all day. But uh so uh let me just summarize it because we're running out of time. So you're writing three books. Yes, I finished almost. I finished all three since the beginning of February. Can you tell us uh three titles again? Of course, we'll make sure. They're all going to be titled Men from Mars, Women from Venus Colon. And one is called How to be h being happy with or without a man. It's very important for women to not feel that they're unhappiness is the absence of a man. Women have the potential to be happy. Whether you're single, you want to be most attractive to men, you have to learn how to communicate that happiness. For if you're married, you want to be able to be happy and communicate that happiness. And how do you do that without depending on a man? Then you can depend on a man to make you happier. And that brings out the best in a man. Okay? So, he shouldn't feel like everything's depending on him. He's he's like the the whipped cream or the dessert for the meal. And so so that's that being happy without a man with a man or without a man. Then the next one is u how to talk so a man will listen. Men are from that very important and everybody seems to like that the most. So I'll probably come out with that. But the other book, the other one on being being happy is so so practical for women because so many times women feel that if they're married, their unhappiness is their husband. And if they're single, their unhappiness is they don't have a man in their life or they feel, this is the third one, they're not that happy and they've given up on men. So if you've given up on men, you have no positive role model of what a man can provide for you. All you have is negative experiences with men or your father wasn't a positive role model giving your mother the happiness that she deserved. So that's that. And the other one is uh uh men are from Mars, women from Venus. uh what to do and not to do when a man pulls away or disappears because so many times women unknowingly sabotage uh their relationship with a man and he just disappears because she unknowingly push too hard. I mean, there's seven basic reasons how women unknowingly sabotage. But one is, well, let's say you have sex too soon. That right away is going to sabotage your relationship. Because when men have not earned their way in, but if a woman out of wanting to be a people pleaser wants to give him what he wants, Mhm. basically that just raises his estrogen and lowers his testosterone. It's only when he provides for you what you want. So that's when men bond with you. So there is a bonding hormone. And for men, the bonding hormone gets produced when he does something for her, not if she does something for him. Doing things for a man. So, am I saying women should be selfish? No. Be very generous. Generous in giving him what he needs most. And what a men need most is love. They need to feel appreciated. They need to feel that they can make a difference. They need to feel that they can help her. And if she doesn't feel like I need help, it's very hard for men to even have a a role in her life. So this is why so many independent, educated women, they're so smart, they're so capable, they're not going to have a man, and they don't have men. There's so many women come to me, "How do I find a man?" I said, "Well, first of all, you have to realize why you need a man." Oh, I don't need a man. Be nice to have one around. No, you need him to lower your stress. You need him to lower your stress. And that that's learning how to do that. How to use a man for that. And the fourth thing that I have coming out is is also the the Mars Venus app. the the feeling letter process so profound for for both men and women because when men are on their female side that's a low testosterone is high estrogen anytime a man is depressed irritable uh procrastinates unmotivated or has any addiction and that addiction could be that phone it can be addiction to YouTube any of those things just sitting passively a lot in his life a little bit 20 minutes 30 minutes good you know maybe an hour but that beyond that you're passive. Passive raises stress inside of men. Passive uh means that he needs to get from his female side to his male side, but he's already on his female side. So, inside there are turbulent emotions. He has to find those emotions and analyze them. So, analysis raises testosterone. So, you have to recognize what it is that's causing you to feel this way. What didn't happen? What should happen? What do you regret happening? So, there's a system that I have that will raise men's testosterone levels up and their estrogen comes back into balance. Doesn't go down, it comes into balance. So, I do this app all the time. I mean, I'm the big beta tester on it. And I Wow. I used to I used to only do it if I was really upset. Now that it's so easy, I almost do it every other day because it it touches my heart. It brings you back to that feeling person that you are. And so many times you're solving problems all the time. men disconnect from their soul which is the heartfelt part of us and that's what women bring into men's life whether he knows it or not that's why men are so attracted to women is that women are the embodiment of the female energy which is suppressed inside of men and when women can appreciate men then men can both be on their male side because I did something for her and it was for her so my female side grows together so it's this relationship of men and women helping each other and the way a woman helps them I don't know if I finish that point is her appreciation for him. So you go to a meal, he should pay for the meal and then woman feels like, well, I should do something. Let's split the bill. No passion, no traction. It's all neutralized. No, he does something for you. And you let yourself appreciate it. That's your gift to him. The way you give to a man is to receive what he has to offer with feelings of acceptance, with feelings of appreciation, with feelings that I can depend on him, I can trust him. That's all every man wants is that, you know, and to have a woman do that for you. And this is the plight of unfortunate single men. You're constantly comparing you to all these these alpha men with millions and billions of dollars. You know, how can you compare yourself to that? And you're always comparing yourself. It's what happens when we go into stress. But when your wife is happy to see you, you get the highest level of testosterone that those billionaires don't have. None of them have happy marriages. None of them do. They're all getting divorced. They don't have relationships. They're workaholics. And so, they're not finding balance in their life. And they're often doing a lot of things that we wouldn't consider very good. I'm not going to elaborate on that. But the bottom line is that they're they're playboys. Basically, what used to be called playboys. Now, what's so interesting is playboys are are basically they they have no commitment to a woman. No commitment. They just think about themselves. just think about making money as opposed to I'm making money. I have everything for my grandchildren, for my children. You know, this is the the purpose. I have a purpose in my life which is to create a beautiful world for them and I'm writing these books. My purpose is to help people in their relationships. Without mission, without purpose, uh men become depressed. It just flattens their testosterone. And this is what happens to men when they got a lot of money. They retire. they get to do what they like to do instead of setting up scenarios where they have to do it. So I have to finish these books. I told everybody I'm going to do it and it's part of my mission and I just feel so driven by it. It's so good to do. I've never been happier except when I'm writing books or I'm teaching seminars. You see me when I'm teaching seminars or traveling because I'm fulfilling my mission and purpose. And when men retire, if they don't find a mission and purpose, they will their testosterone levels will drop. And this is predictable. within 3 years they have a heart attack and die. That's all statistics again. It's lower testosterone. It's the major cause of heart disease inside of men. You can have clogged arteries and everything. You still don't have a heart attack. You have angiogenesis that finds new veins that go around. What always when a man has a heart attack, he has low testosterone. That's the major thing. Now, it's a myth that men's testosterone levels have to go down as they get older. You read about it everywhere. I'm 73 years old. mine are 50% higher than I was a young man. You know this. Wow. Yeah. It's because I have mission and purpose. But more than just that, I also don't complain. If I complain out loud to get sympathy or empathy or just to sort of release the energy, I lose my strength as a man. I I look at what I'm bothered about. I process my feelings, but I don't advertise them. Anytime you complain, if you're a man, complaining out loud. If you're with a bunch of men and you make jokes about your complaints, that's different. you're fine, having fun with it, whatever, you know, but seriously complain, to be upset, to be to verbalize feelings of frustration, feelings of anger, feelings of fear, to act on feelings of fear. All those things give strength to the wiring in your brain to increase those emotions, but also to increase your estrogen. And when estrogen goes up and you're having negative emotions, and anytime a man has negative emotions, his estrogen's too high, his testosterone is too low. It's a simple thing. Wow. I I I I hate to stop this, you know, and just keep going on. I want to keep going, too. But I also just one one more thing. We have another moment. Okay. One more. I'm okay. Perfect. I don't mind sitting here for another two days. I know that we have to create room for other people. The But the whole thing about manifestation, manifestation only happens when you anticipate success. And that's the whole process of processing your feelings. You know so many people they know the manifestation techniques which is you've got to imagine you look at what do you want and of course if you can find your soul's desire okay not just oh I want that candy over there or that Ferrari there or that jet plane there what you know that that's okay you want to listen to what you want but when you the way you get down to your soul desires is you look at what's bothering you know I can't pay this bill my wife's upset with me my children are sick you know this is the real life stuff when you process the real life stuff you come back to a place of peace and love and gratitude. You know, you're really big in gratitude. By releasing negativity, all you feel is just so grateful to be alive. You know, just so happy that, you know, I've got this beautiful home and I can take a shower. I got hot water. I mean, literally, I'm happy. I go to the grocery store. Look, I can pick these things out like a child. Children are so happy with the littlest things. I'm just talking to my 2-year-old. She says, "We going to the farmers market on Sunday?" Yes. It's the delight of her life. If we eat the blueberries, you know, I keep giving her little blueberries. So this is the little things of life have so much joy and happiness. And that's why you are so abundant. Anybody that knows Kin Honda, he is so happy. He's so positive about the littlest things. I mean, it's always a pleasure to be with you and your family because there's it's not the abundance that makes you happy. It's the happiness and the gratitude that creates the abundance. So what keeps us from fully feeling our heart being open is these negative emotions that get suppressed both in women also in men particularly when when men are stressed if they talk about it or they act on their stress then they're suppressing the true self inside. So, by being able to process emotions, negative emotions, you're able to let them go, come back to your positive feelings. When you have those positive feelings, now just ask yourself, what do I want? And then you can fully feel what it would feel like if you had it. That's what you have to have the, you know, this isn't original thought here. This is you've got to feel your feelings in advance. Okay? You got to imagine what I want and how good it makes me feel, how happy I am, how confident I am. And that is that that awareness of yes, I can accept. I resonate with that happening. And you go into that vision. You feel it. It's happening. And then you bring other people into it and they're talking to you. Oh, John, I just read your book. It was so wonderful. I mean, Men from Mars lasted at number one spot longer than anybody in history except Harry Potter books. At number one Harry Potter magic books, but but with mine number one the whole four, five years basically. And every day when I'm flying around the world, my meditation was men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, number one. People are coming up to me telling me how that book has changed their life. And it was already real because people had already done that in my classes. And I could just fully feel I'm so grateful that I'm able to help people. That's the feeling is that when you can really feel that you have what you want, it just continues on and it continues on. And I know that's a big part of your teaching, Ken, which is to be grateful. you know, every time and when you write a check, say thank you. You know, it's every interaction is a moment to be grateful and to get to that gratitude. Some people are just really blocked. They don't have a lot to be grateful for. And you know, they say that's the reason as opposed to let me process the negative emotions. Come back to my pure soul, my pure love. The purity inside of us is grateful for whatever we have. And you know, you can see this in some of the indigenous people. Some of them uh they're just grateful, you know, to have a little bit of food. You know, there's a oh there's so much I can say about that. You already say that stuff, but for your for your visualizations, for your imagination, you've got your board up, you've got the things that you want. When you process your feelings of not having that, then it can come back to feeling at ease and happy and grateful for what you have. Then imagine having that with your heart is open and you can fully feel it. And that becomes a magnet. That fully feeling is your female side. And for women, of course, they are embodiment of the magnet. That's why if you're lucky enough as a man to have a woman who's happy, who loves you, your power to uh create abundance in your life dramatically goes up. And when you have children, if you're able to provide for them and process your feelings, your abundance goes up. There's the whole point of family. The more people you feel responsible for that you care about, the more power can come into you. If you're just thinking about me is a limited is just a little frame here. Only so much energy can flow through me. But you know to have the opportunity to be able to help more people and and to be dedicated to that has only allowed the the prosperity to increase in my life. But the real key is with my wife. You know when I I teach a lot in China and everybody in China always wants to meet my wife because they know that s behind they say behind every man is a great woman. A great woman. You cannot be successful as a man in all areas of your life without a woman loving you. That's my belief. That's been historical. It takes a woman's love and and if you look at some of the most successful people in the world, they had women and then they get successful and they lose those women and and their happiness goes away. I I can't tell you how many stories I know of billionaires who are never happy. And yet there are billionaires that are happy and they usually have a happy wave. You can't be happy inside yourself if you care about someone if if they're unhappy. So, as a man to have somebody who loves you, somebody that you can contribute to their life and to your children and now to my grandchildren. Well, I've had I have five grandchildren, but the next one comes along has inspired my new books. So, it is it's love. It's love is the foundation of all success and monetary success, financial success. U people can have that in their life a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more. But we have to do the work. And the work is to feel not enough because that's a negative emotion and we're all feeling not enough on some levels. You learn to process that and that's what the the feeling letter process Mars Venus feeling letter process app does. So I'm so excited about it. Yeah. Thank you so much, John. And thank you so much for your generosity and uh love and and all I think you care about the humankind human being you know the whole planetary vision. That's why you you are one of the most successful authors in all time. So, thank you for being who you are and uh you haven't aged a bit. You just keep getting younger and especially energy. So, I'm so grateful. You know, the only uh thing I had is like why did John Gray stop writing? you know, because as an author, I wanted you to write new books and I I I I don't know if you remember, but I kept I kept asking you, harassing you, when is your new book coming out? And finally, uh, Dr. John Grace books will just dominate the world. So, thank you so much. Everything has its time and place. A lot of my work that I have now is the relevance of it is finally women are waking up and realizing they're missing their femininity. There was a period of time where women were not feeling I really need help to come back to my female side. Now it's very acceptable. And the idea that we have male and female while they're one group of people doesn't see the differences more and more women are realizing they're burning out on their male side. And it doesn't mean that they can't be on their male side. What it means is that if you're a woman and your testosterone is up at work, by anticipating coming to a personal life that stimulates your female hormones, then anticipating that will lower your stress. So that's the whole key is learning to have that place in your life. And the same thing for a man. you know, there's a lot of goals that I have and you know, my anticipation of achieving those goals because I do have a lot, it raises my testosterone. But even when I don't have it, the fact that I can come home to a woman that appreciates me raises my testosterone up just as much as if I sold all the books in the world. See, this is you. You really need people who love you and support you. And again, that's why I teach for women. Even without a man, you can get the support you need by understanding your biology and the different ways that you can find that support in your life. So that then a man will be drawn to like a bee to the flower to get the honey. Uh and it's just women have such a beautiful magnetic pull to attract men, but when they're in their male side, they lose that magnetic pool. There's no opening for a man. There's no job for him there to he get paid. And the payment we're looking for is her appreciation, her acceptance, and her trust. Thank you so much, John. But but I think it's getting to be your dinner time. You know, like uh I just said 45 minutes, but thank you for being so generous. You know, I remember you keep uh tipping uh waiting person like so much like 25%, 30%, and did you say sometimes you get 50%. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. quite a bit. Quite a bit. Yeah. So, you've given us like extra tipping, you know, in terms of time. You know what I do with the tipping as well? I try to first establish a personal relationship with the person. So, I can I ask them to do a few extra things for me so that they feel they deserve the tip. Sometimes if you just I figured this out because sometimes I'd give a big tip and people would some people would be sort of resentful that I have so much money that I can tip. Wow. So the point there is that I ask them, "Hey, would you do this extra thing for me? I'd really appreciate it." And they all know me and it's wonderful. You go into a restaurant and you're treated like a VIP. All the I know. I was there. I was there with you and one time, you know, you took me to a nice steak restaurant. Uh and then the manager just kept, you know, running so fast. I never run uh restaurant managers run so fast. He he got us the uh like it took only two seconds, you know, for him to fly to you. So because he has the anticipation, here's somebody who appreciates me. But if I just gave the tip, it doesn't do the trick. See, particularly for men, women is different. I can give a tip to a woman, which he'll be very grateful, but to a man, he has to earn it. So for him to earn it, I have to ask him to do extra things for me. And and then he does it. And sometimes he'll even do it with a little bit of attitude and that's okay with me. And then I'll ask again something else. And then I'll just say, "Thank you so much. Not a big huge, but thank you. That's nice. I appreciate that. Oh, I really enjoyed the meal. It was so good." And then I leave a big tip. So, and this is a tip for women to know, which is you never give appreciation for a man who does nothing for you. You have to get him to do things for you. If he does things for you, then when you appreciate him, it goes in and he wants to give you more. But if you do things for a man that he didn't do something for you, then he becomes more passive. It It's literally like if I go to a job and they don't expect anything of me and just pay me a lot of money, I become passive. Men have to earn their way. And if he earns his way and gets rewarded for it, then his testosterone goes up and you bond. That's how you bond. That's how a man bonds with a woman. That's how those men will bond with me because I give him something a little bit more to do for me and then I give him a little bit more tips. actually a lot and they remember it. They go, "Yeah." And and think about what that does for them. It makes them feel motivated to be of service to somebody else as well. Wow. Yeah. You're like my wah another mentor, you know. So, so appreciate you for being who you are. So, thank you, John. And and uh uh I hope uh we can do this together at some different occasions because we haven't touched about the money, work, and inspiration and life purposes. I need to, you know, I just finished a book called um I'm I'm I'm like 180 pages into a book which is called gender smart leadership. Wow. There's so many subtleties in the workplace. How women unknowingly give away their power. How men unknowingly create walls between them and the women they work with. So it's how to manage women can manage men. How men can manage women. how men how how uh all the different variations of that that theme because you know women don't know how to manage a man. They often alienate men and because they treat men like a like they'd want to have a woman or some women are more like men and they treat women that way. So there there's a lot of tension in the workplace that we can remove if we can understand our gender differences in a positive way. Wow. Another great comment. So, thank you so much, John. And we'll do this again. So, we'll do it again. Look forward to it. Thank you, Ken. Thank you so much. So, for the viewers, thank you for sharing your time. And you are overwhelmed by the generosity and the wisdom of Dr. John Gray. Please read all the books and just let's try the app. I can't wait to do that. It will be available at least at marsvenenus.com. I'm not sure when it will be available on We'll make sure all the people get the information later. Anyway, that'd be really great. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, John. Thank you so much, Dr. John Gray. What a rich and real way to end day three of the Happy Wealth Summit because I agree with everything John said. Our relationships can really be either our greatest source of support or our greatest source of stress. And that's because, you know, your partner is the person who's going to be around you all the time. You know, be there in your most vulnerable moments. You know, when you are at home, being there with you, being in your vicinity, and like it or not, you will mirror each other. You know, there's a saying that says you're the average of the five people you spend the most time with, and your partner is definitely one of them. So, not only do we want to choose our partners wisely, but we also want to do the work to make sure that our relationship is going to thrive in the best way possible. And I think I learned a lot from Dr. John Gray about how we can make simple changes in how we listen, how we communicate, and how we support each other to lead to deeper intimacy and obviously better performance in work and more attraction to wealth in life. And quite frankly, with the right support system with our partners, we can do so much more in our legacy, our career, our work. So with that said, I'm very curious everyone, what is one takeaway that you got from Dr. John Gay's session? Can you share in the chat? Maybe you want to start communicating a bit differently with your partner starting today. Maybe it's about how you listen to your partner. Or maybe it's about, you know, watching this video again, you know, and really together figure out what is the system you can start applying so that you can both thrive even more in this relationship and also in your journey to create a truly wealthy life. And with that said, I also want to take an opportunity to remind you all that this replay of John Gay's session and also all the sessions that we had today and day three is going to be available for you on this page until 900 a.m. Eastern time tomorrow. So before we kick off day four, you will have ability to watch these replays again. Whether you want to watch it with your partner or you miss a few sessions unfortunately but you want to catch up, this is the opportunity to do so. And thank you all. Thank you all for spending your day with us. Whether it was again one session or you stayed the whole day, Ken and me and the entire team are really grateful for your trust, for your excitement that you brought to this summit, right, to listen to all these speakers and obviously we're extremely thankful for the speakers that showed up today. You know, it was quite a journey. E, we went through resilience. We went through emotional intelligence. We talked about the power of alignment. From Ken's opening session about emotional flow to Jimmy's session about mindset principles to Marcy's incredibly joyful radiance and finally to John's deep dive into relationship mastery and also all of our other speakers. They gave us so many insights and a new lens on wealth and relationship dynamics. So, a little bit about logistics. I just want to remind you all that tomorrow we're starting at 9:00 a.m. again. And you know, if you haven't been in the Facebook group yet, please join the Facebook group. Uh there are a lot of conversations happening there and uh the team would easily be able to update you on any particular um you know, information as well. So, make sure you take advantage of the Facebook group so that you can actually connect with your fellow attendees around the world as well. We're getting so many people from so many countries. Uh it's a truly truly humbling experience. 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So please rest up or you know take it easy today where well my only invitation is for you to actually take it easy and apply one thing that you've learned from today's summit because again consistent action always always is better than massive explosive action for just one day right so let today be the beginning of the rest of your life and we'll kick off things again with Ken tomorrow for day four and your life work. We're going to dive into a lineup of sessions to activate your purpose, your impact, and how to actually create work in a way that really aligns deeply with your purpose. So, please take the day to reflect, to integrate, and we'll see you tomorrow for day four of the Happy Wealth Summit.