Clear Skin Chronicles with Dr. William Davis

now wait a minute here how do how can you lose up to eight or more inches off your waist but not lose weight well consistent with the previous evidence in animals and humans increase in muscle so you you you ladies know that as we age we lose about a third of our muscle so you see little old ladies and guys skinny arms and legs they're frail they can't go upstairs they have to use a scooter all that stuff well we see a restoration of youthful muscle so you know what it's the exact oppos opposite of OIC face welcome to the clear skin Chronicles the podcast that takes you on a journey to uncover the secrets of achieving glowing acnefree skin we believe that knowledge is power and by understanding the root causes of your acne we can create a solid foundation for long lasting clear skin I'm Katy Stewart registered holistic nutritionist and founder of the clear skin solution where we help women just like you get to the root cause of their acne and I'm Chris Brown registered holistic nutritionist and program director in the clear skin solution through functional testing we pinpoint where the body system imbalances lie so we can dive deep into your Acne Clearing Journey we work virtually with clients to clear up their skin from the inside out and have helped thousands of women worldwide regain their [Music] confidence so I'm kind of having a little bit of a full circle moment today on the podcast um I'm so excited both Chris and I are so excited for our next guest Dr William Davis and I say this is a full circle moment for me because back in 2011 before I was a nutritionist when I was still eating that standard North American diet not understanding why I had migraines and stomach aches and skin issues and joint pain and all of the fun things that I was told were just normal I found out I was Celiac and a colleague of mine gave me a book called wheat belly and if you're watching on YouTube you can see that I've had this book so long that the pages have started to yellow and this was actually one of the very first nutrition books I ever read and now I have New York Times best-selling author cardiologist Dr William Davis on the show the author of weat belly and super gut so Dr Davis thank you so so much for joining us today oh thank you ktie thanks for having me thank you Chris yeah we Chris and I have been talking about this for a few weeks um you know we've been really looking forward to it we love your book and Chris and I were just talking before you hopped on is it's a really easy read super gut your newest book super gut it for the average person it's really easy to understand because a lot of these books can be really complicated and the average person may not understand the terminology but you've done a really phenomenal job of breaking it down and making it very easy to digest thank you the analogies I I'm I have an inner geek in me I love it I rather Katie's the outside face and I'm I'm like the inner right so I just want to commend you on that because those analogies really connect everything for people and like Katie said easy read with a lot of valuable information thank you Chris nice good feedback yeah I think honestly I think everybody should read it because it's it's such a profound book that can be so insightful so let's kind of I wanted to take to talk about you know the microbiome as a whole of course we're going to get into the impacts of the skin and acne and those you know side symptoms that a lot of acne sufferers have so Dr Davis I would love for you to you know really help us break down what's happened to our guts microbiome in this Industrial Revolution and how it's really been quite different from what our ancestors microbiome has looked like sure Katie so we've been exposed as a society to so many factors that are disruptive over the composition of microbes in our gastrointestinal tracks pardon me as well as elsewhere by the way in the skin in the airway in the uh reproductive tract the female reproductive tract uh the bladder who would have guessed the bladder has a microbiome we thought it was sterile it's not sterile but all the things we've been exposed to as a society multiple courses of antibiotics preservatives and food that kill microbes like mold and food but also kill microbes in you emulsifying agents in ice cream and salad dressing compounds like polysorbate a carboxymethyl cellulos and caragine emulsify your intestinal barrier and thereby disrupt the the microbial composition acid blocking drugs stomach acid blocking drugs anti-inflammatory drugs like nioxin and ibuprofen chlorinated drinking water on and on on we we swim in the sea of factors that disrupt the microbes and among the the uh casualties is we've lost hundreds we've literally lost hundreds of microbial species including some very very important species that were doing good things things for us a lot of the most beneficial species like my favorite microbe of all for a variety of reasons including by the way skin is lactobacillus RI and we've lost it it was the the German microbiologist who discovered it in 1962 Dr ghard reuter isolated it from the breast milk of a German breastfeeding mother and he found it easy to find in breast milk in stool in his 40-year career he found it increasingly more difficult to find that microb such that he couldn't almost find it anymore after 40 years and this is this remains true today if you look for it you're gonna find almost nobody has this very important microb that has all kinds of Health implications skin bone muscle libido reproductive organs um emotional health and we've lost it it's incredible I know when I was reading your book um I thought some of the really interesting facts that people would be surprised to know is that even the changes in your microbiome can be impactful for things like pre-term labor yes isn't that something a there's a whole new world uh now there's a lot more to talk about for for for females and there is for guys the the male microbiome conversation really needs to advance further but ladies are a lot more complicated but you're right there are changes in the reproductive microbiome for ladies loss for instance of the microb very important lacab bacillus Chris spotus about a third of the world's female population has lost that that microbe and when you lose it you're more prone to candada infections you're more prone to as you say miscarriages more prone to premature labor uh more prone to urinary tract infections and vaginal dryness that which becomes a real problem for older older women like in their 60s uh and restoring it has spectacular effects how about bit backacter infantis that if a pregnant mom has it passes it onto her child at delivery and breastfeeding that child is healthier there's better neurological maturation higher IQ less likely to have asthma or obesity or type two diabetes later in life and able to draw from all the nutritional value of human milk oligosaccharides in breast milk so there's so much in the the female reproductive Health with regards to the microbiome now one of the great tragedies though is you'd think baby formula would be the smartest most effective product on the planet right because it's so important no no we're all on team no here yeah all on team no yeah it's really fascinating is you know something Chris and I both tell to our clients is your current health status really is an accumulation of everything that's happened from conception up until this moment in time and I find that's really eye opening for a lot of people because they they you don't realize the connection between the health of the the mom as she's pregnant with the growing baby and even how the baby is delivered and brought into the world we've reallyi we yeah convenience I always I always say we're a prime Amazon type person you know my children don't know what it is for a commercial you know even if there's a commercial on their YouTube they're like oh we need a subscription I can't listen to this 10 second they're like what are you doing Mom and I'm like it's just an infomercial and they're like I said listen it used to be 90 seconds when I was a kid I can handle 15 seconds so you know what I love that you addressed in the book is cesarian sections and being able to go and book those because it's a convenience method I'm not talking about the emergency because absolutely time and place for everything but when you book your own child's date for convenience we have to step back and look at that microbiome look at what we could potentially be losing not in judgment but in quality of health fair you know what interesting is a lot of these things we were you and I we were all given hints at a lot of these effects but didn't see them for what they were you always think about Vitamin D it sat on the side of your milk carton for decades and we didn't recognize that it's one of the most important things people can do for health well likewise if if Chris says Hey I want to deliver my baby at when on Wednesday August 23rd at 8: am well how do you do that she comes into the hospital they put an IV in they give you an infusion of oxytocin pcin that's the brand name but it's oxytocin that provokes uterine contraction and cervical relaxation and Crystal livers her baby right not knowing that that's a hint at the huge role that this wonderful hormone oxytocin plays in overall health but also reproductive health so it's responsible for the uterine contraction and delivery of the child it's also responsible for uh being able to express breast milk so a lot of ladies have trouble breastfeeding and one of the reasons is the loss of the capacity to produce Ro oxytocin because we lost the microb that provokes oxytocin lactobacilus RI a lot of ladies struggle with postpartum depression that's a low oxytocin state so so many facets of female reproductive Health delivery Post delivery are affected impaired by the loss of lactb rorine and thereby the loss of oxytocin and I also think a lot about this now wait so oxytocin the hormone of love and empathy and sociability and we lost that microb their bi oxytocin at a time time of record suicide record social isolation divorce 50% of all marriages right and I wasn't aware of this till recently the psychology Community has been formally tabulating measuring the narcissistic behaviors in in people since 1963 and the increase in narcissistic behavior has sharply increased it's a 45 degree upward climb since 19 63 true or false 1963 I am a very important person in this world 1963 133% of people say yes I am our time it's more like 83% of people now it's not it's not just Ro oyos there's other reasons capitalistic Society I can think of a few right now yes but it's something we can do something about we can restore this microbe lost by nearly everybody regain that empathy generosity better control over reproductive behavior and breastfeeding and mood after delivery and also oxytocin is also the hormone I call it the hormone of body composition it determines how you look where you have muscle where you have fat the texture and and the uh look of your skin uh has so many effects that that's just one microb there's many other microbes but Lac basil if your listeners walk away from this with one message that is recognize the incredible power of this one microbe lails Ride Ride by the way is reu t r i like the Reuters News service it's German yeah it's actually one of the strains we specifically look for in probiotics for our skin our acne and skin clients because it has such that profound effect and Dr Davis you know with acne of course you know there comes a whole slew of other symptoms because acne is never really just one symptom that the individual is experiencing something that Chris and I see a lot with our clients is we're dealing with mental health issues they're dealing with anxiety they're dealing with depression they're on you know SSRI and it's really fascinating when you start to pull back from that eagle ey perspective and you look that it could all be connected right back down to those missing microbes in their gut absolutely excellent point Katie so you're right losing hundreds of beneficial microbes oddly allows feal microbes these are microbes are supposed to live in your colon where and the Colon's perfectly fine doing that but these feal microbes like ecoli and salmonella and calaor which may sound familiar because they're also the species of food poisoning so these feal microbes because you've lost beneficial species have been allowed to ascend into the small intestine into the 24t of small intestine small intestinal bacterial overgrowth sibo we say well the small intestine is by Design very permeable because that's where you're supposed to absorb amino acids and vitamins and minerals and so but when feom microbes gain access and colonize the small intestine when they die they only live for a few hours when they die they release some of their toxic components from their cell walls into the bloodstream that's called endotoxin and when endotoxin gains access through the very permeable small intestine into the bloodstream that's called endotoxemia that explains how microbes disrupted feal microbes in the small intestine can be experienced as eczema rosacea psoriasis in the skin or in the brain as depression anxiety cognitive impairment suicide or in muscle and Joints as fibromyalgia or rheumatoid arthritis so now we have an explanation and scientifically validated and corroborated numerous times now how gut microbes influence uh the skin another aspect of all this when you have fecal microbes invading your small intestine you also you lose all even further you lose beneficial microbes beneficial microbes are those that produce butyrate or butyric acid which has many wonderful effects like reducing blood pressure reducing blood sugar better sleep better dreams Etc and better skin because that butc so you you ladies may know healthy skin is acidic as a pH of about 4.5 and someone who's got acne or eczema or psoriasis they have a pH of about 5.5 less acidic so as you recall the pH scale is logarithmic so the difference between 5.5 and 4.5 is tfold tfold more acidic well when you get microbes when you bring back order in your GI tract reduce those feal microbes restore healthy microbes that produce butc acid some of it goes to the skin acidifies your skin and it reduces the populations of staf cacus orius which is a familiar pathogen and encourages proliferation of stafl cacus epidermitis a beneficial microb and you thereby gain moisture reduction of redness reduction of blemishes so you're right the the the GI microbiome for so many reasons plays a big role in in skin appearance and health and this really is the the gut skin axis what we're discussing yes now another thing I like to weaving though is you know we've been given terrible terrible advice on diet right yes cut your saturated fat e well think what they did for you right Katie eat more healthy whole grains not a not a mention made of the people who have got celiac disease and other forms of intolerance to wheat and Grains well when you go wheat and grainfree there are additional benefits on the skin but one of the things that happened when we were given that advice was most people in North America abandoned consumption of organ Meats tongue brain stomach intestines heart that means the intake of collagen and hyaluronic acid drop to very low levels so we're supposed to get lots of collagen and Hy because those I know your FOC your latest focus is is skin health so you know that collagen taken orally increases dermal collagen of course the seat of skin health is the dermal layer so collagen peptides increase dermal collagen increase the thickness of the dermal layer and by the way it also rebuilds joint cartilage and the collagen in your arteries and a collagen is very glycation prone it gets it's damaged every time your blood glucose goes above 5 Mill or 100 milligrams per deciliter and it becomes irreversibly damaged that's why people get crepy skin and thinning of the dermal lay now you can rebuild that by getting collagen hyaluronic hyaluronic gas is so interesting I know lots of ladies put serums around their eyes they spend all the money on all the serums myself included so I asked well okay you put it around your eyes what did it do for your skin on your on your neck or thighs or buttocks or or abdomen nothing of course so let's get hyaluronic acid orally that you would have gotten had you eaten brain or skin or tongue and hyaluronic acid also adds to dermal collagen stimulates dermal collagen production it also increases moisture content of the dermal layer so hyaluronic a is incredibly good at retaining water not not edema kind of water but a healthy uh location water in dermal and Incredibly hyaluronic acid is rare in that it's a fiber most fibers we get from F from food from Plants but here's a fiber that we get from animals and this fiber causes proliferation of those butyrate producing species like acrania and Fala bacterium and lacos spacia and all they Al it also suppresses FAL microbes so oral hyaluronic acid better joint health synovial fluids made of of hyaluronic acid better arterial Health arteries are aligned by something called a glycocalix a signal molecule made of hyaluronic acid so heart health joint health skin health and skin health for a variety of reasons so this thing abandoned people say I bought boneless skinless chicken breast they thrw away the skin that contained the hyaluronic acid so it's bad for your heart right Dr Dr Davis it's it's bad it it's full of saturated fats right this is what's coming up I know I chuckle too but I'm being very fous here being a cardiologist I'm sure that's why I like it I think hyaluronic ass is a terribly uh um neglected factor in heart health that'll come that'll come to light over time another thing that's happened is you know your your friends and family probably order food from fast food joint right they get their food brought by Uber or lift in a clamshell you don't even know how that was made you don't know what oil was used it's not organic right one of the uh problems that emerges from this Reliance on process and Ultra processed foods is the dramatic droping carotenoid intake betacarotene lutein zanthin cryptantha and several hundred others well when you do that you lose control over skin health and body comp compos so restoring carotenoids uh protects you from sun damage it partially reverses existing sun damage it shrinks your waist and has very potent anti-inflammatory effects there's a suspicion that there's something called inflaming the inflammation of aging and aanon one of the few things that suppresses a carotenoid it's the most potent carotenoid of all asanin that's the carotenoid in like salmon it's the pink in salmon and lobster is incredibly anti-inflammatory now I did a small clinical trial where relevant to skin health because I know your listeners are interested in skin I I restored lactobacilus rotaride I threw in Marine Source collagen pepti Marine Source because it's effective at lower doses than Bine and porcine hyaluronic acid 120 milligrams and asanin four milligrams and 25 ladies we ask them please don't change your diet please don't change your exercise program we're going to take a look at your skin and we do such things as high resolution skin ultrasound measure the dermal thickness ladies were pleased after 90 days their dermal layer increased 15% most of the time if you take just collagen you'll get like maybe a six to s% increase in dermal thickness so we're seeing 15% so twice that's 90 days probably more over a long time we didn't we didn't go beyond 90 days so 15% increase in dermal thickness uh ladies were happy because they lost lot lost crows feet lost smile lines some started to see a reduction in the nasal lavial fold and forehead wrinkles as well as other parts of the body too but to our surprise we also measured waist circumference this was a skin clinical trial interesting but we measured waist circumference just because it's free why not so no no change in diet no change in exercise dramatic reduction in waste circumference wow now even more interesting as much is 8 in even more interesting they didn't lose weight now wait a minute here how do how can you lose up to eight or more inches off your waist but not lose weight well consistent with the previous evidence in animals and humans increas in muscle so you you you ladies know that as we age we lose about a third of our muscle so you see little old ladies and guys skinny arms and legs they're frail they can't go upstairs they have to use a scooter all that stuff well we see restoration of youthful muscle so you know what it's the exact opposite of OIC face Thea it's it's the better o zic face so those people pay $112,000 for we goie or whatever and they lose 40 pounds say 10 pounds of which is muscle and those drugs are specific more for subcutaneous fat less for abdominal fat so they lose 40 pounds yeah and look 10 to 20 years older and by the way when they stop the drug because most people can't afford that kind of money forever they regain 32 to 34 pounds of fat almost all fat almost no muscle they're actually more at risk for type two diabetes heart disease cognitive impairment dementia and breast cancer higher risk than they were at the start so I think we have a way of res so what we're really doing is restoring things lost you lost Rai you're not getting collagen you're not getting a hyaluronic acid you're not getting carotenoids like asdan you restore them not only do you have better skin thicker dermal lay reduction in blemishes and sun damage but you also restore youthful Contours incredible all from repairing your microbiome getting the collagen the higher low ionic acid the zanthin and none of these people had to go to the the spa and get botox and fillers and facials and OIC and all of the things that our society tells us we need in order to you know have that anti-aging effect you ladies know that they inject hyaluronic acid as filler in the face as lubrication in joints uh so there was all these hints that things like hyaluronic acid have astounding effects but few appreciated that the real benefits come from adding it back to your diet and what's interesting Dr Davis is so often we hear our clients say my doctor said my diet has nothing to do with how my skin looks but you're here to officially break that myth for us that 100% the things you're eating are going to be are going to make or break how your body and your skin is working and functioning absolutely it's crucial it's critical to skin health and so as you as you two know you your your efforts your efforts can include lots of topical products but you can't expect full restoration of skin Health dermal thickness anti-inflammatory protection from inflammation you can't expect that by relying only on on topical products you got to address diet you have to address factors lost in Modern Life and another thing I would love to touch on is Chris what we see time and time again is the majority of our clients Chris what would you say would be the percentage of our clients that have taken long-term antibiotics for their acne and we're told that this was their only solution we're well into the 90 percentile well because it's it's deemed as bacterial it's deemed as acne fighting however as Dr Davis said let's step back let's look at the cultures let's look at the pH balance of the skin itself what are we doing to feed it let's look at the lipop pooly um saccharides you know their LPS's okay in all truth be told if you have children in the car right now you might want to turn me down but LPS's I call them little pieces of because of what they do inside the body right I don't know Dr Davis if this is PG I think I I just I just did that but um I really look that it's that that endotoxemia that you talk about it's the catastrophic breakdown it's a fact that the standard North American diet is high in silica and silica is a predisposition mineral of silicone and fine that we're just going to pump in these but that's going to disrupt that collagen that collagen availability inside the body right so it's not just a matter of going and pumping ourselves full of supplements and pumping ourselves full of maybe just a diet the fact is it's the entire lifestyle balance it's understanding what works it's transitioning right it's you know Dr Davis gave us a lot of things to say hey I did a clinical trial and you know how many people stopped rewound wrote it down and are on their way right now to a health food store to get exactly all of those things right however if you don't know how to be monitored and do then at one point when you come off these supplements Dr Davis what's going to happen if we don't start transitioning the rest of it right yeah so these these are not permanent effects it it requires ongoing effort but it is an illustration of the incredible power of both the microbiome and its effects on skin and overall health but also the the power of restoring things lost from the human diet like hyaluronic acid and catenoids I was also talking to my friend Dr Kieran Krishnan he's a microbiologist he's the guy that started microbiome labs and yeah he was behind the megaspore biotic thing I was talking to him yet just a couple days ago and they have very good evidence that restoration topically and orally of two microbes basilla subtilus and Basil's coagulant has dramatic effects on acne and they're going to extend their science into other sorts of rashes too like rosace s and so on that's not a drug so we can't say these things out loud often but they're seeing dramatic effects on skin by restoring or by uh using these two spor forming microbes also yeah we I I really do love microbiome Labs I actually have a bottle of that that exact probiotic uh sitting on my table over there and for you when we're looking at you know all of the different strains of those probiotics of course there's a lactobacillus in the bit bacterium but there was also this other you know category of the Spore or the soil-based probiotics could you give a little bit of insights into those very interesting class of microbes I I I should point out some of the critics though of of probiotic there there's a lot of issues with probiotics good and bad some people say they don't survive stomach acid or bio they do especially not not all of them do but two of my favorite microbes lactobacilus rotari and lactobacilus gaseri those are two re really important microbes they survive stomach acid and bile very easily and that's how they colonize the small intestine so the loss of those two microbes in particular may be a big part of the explanation why there's so much sibo now because those two policed the small intestine they colonize the small intestine they produce bacteria natural antibiotics effective against feal microbes we lose those fecal microbes have been given an open invitation to colonize your small intestine and have all those adverse effects one Spore forming microb is very interesting basilis coagulant and now we're using the with I'm sorry about these strain designation you ladies know the strain designations are kind of a pain in the neck but it's the gbi 3686 strain that strain ger it's a Spore it's like a seed it germinates in the small intestine and then releases its own bacteria sins and by the way the com I I've done this combination restore lail RI and the atcc PTA 6475 strain I'm sorry well they'll rewind they'll write it down okay lacto basilis gaser the bnr17 strain and that strain of basilis coagulant now what we do is we co-ferment them as yogurt but use extended fermentation as as you ladies know microbes don't have sex there's no male and female microbes one microbe reproduces itself become two like that well we allow so rotari doubles every 3 hours at human body temperature so we allow it to double 12 times we perform flow citometry a method of counting microbes on the yogurts we get about 300 billion so we're increased in counts 100 or a thousand fold by extended fermentation it looks and smells like yogurt of course it's not yogurt you can't buy it in a store and we have it with some blueberries or CH seeds whatever and we're seeing uh reversal of Sione wow in over 90 % of people I did not expect that I was I did this to maybe help people deal with some bloating or diarrhea I did not expect sio to go away in the majority of people and we know that by the way because of the availability of the consumer device the air device okay so you know so AI air measures hydrogen gas so I look at these devices as mapping devices they tell you where in the GI track microbes are living because they're not supposed to be FAL microbes is not supposed to be in the 24 feet of stomach dadum junam and ilium it's really incredible that you know we have this technology now where we're able to see this because I'm sure Dr Davis you know without this technology we wouldn't be able to have these conversations about where um the different strains are in the intestinal tract because as you mentioned in your book a colonoscopy can only show so much and an endoscopy can only show so much but there's a a very large portion of your intestinal tract that can't be seen from that scope mhm and even today if if Chris went to her gastron neurologist and said hey I think I have sibo and most of them will say no you don't you've been Consulting Dr Google again haven't you Chris or I didn't see anything on the colonoscopy or the endoscopy you don't see it you can't see it and so this has been neglected for so it's starting to get some traction but they're still talking about if if you even get tested for it most of them don't even know how to test it but uh or don't want to be bothered because they're too busy charging a lot of money it's worse in the US right of course it's much worse here but uh they're too busy doing their uh uh procedures for a lot of money they can't be bothered with your health so that's why it's a great time because now the wisdom on how to do this you know if I said you can get rid of sibo by removing the 24 feet of your small intestine well Katie would say well you better be damn confin that's true right yeah what if you can get rid of your sibo by making something that looks and smells like yogurt in your kitchen well now the threshold is so low so safe and by the way I I call it sibo yogurt and I regret calling it that because it makes it seem like it's only good for sibo it's not so what we're really doing is restoring what are called keystone species very important foundational species that when you restore those microbes lost because of all the things that disrupt your microbiome it brings back other species too allows other species to proliferate because it's bringing back order by reducing the populations of those FAL microbes now I have a question here which kind of is timing out well is I recently did a GI map and found that I'm riddled with sibo and H pylori so I so this is a great chat for us to be having and of course you know I've been really digging into your book and and mine comes from I had pH pylori for quite some time but I believe you know the sibo was a combination of after I had two late pregnancy losses in 2019 and after my DNC they they watched me take like a quadruple dose of antibiotics in the hospital and since then my gut has just been a disaster and I you know being a practitioner I just didn't have time to go and sort out my own health so now that the symptoms are so bad I've decided to really you know focus on my gut get the the microbiome and work on the sibo so you're saying I'm GNA go and make myself some yogurt this weekend the recipe that you have and that's going to be a great great addition to the SEO protocol that I'm working on so now my yeah I'm really excited to be honest like your book couldn't have come at a better time for me so I'm really excited to be able to dig in and follow all of your uh you know be one of your own clinical human uh trials over here in Canada so she's really good at this Dr Davis her own human clinical trial so I'm wondering is you know when you call it a sibo yogurt how does it fair for those that have a dairy intolerance so you can well several things to know when we do extended fermentation of dairy and I use organic half and half because I also reject this idea that we should limit fat in any form well saturated fat in total fat so I use organic half and half the extended fermentation maximally reduces lactose and converts it to lactic acid and the acidification the pH is about 3.5 uh compared to 4.5 of conventional yogurt 10 so 10 fold more acidic it is tart uh well that degree of acidification also denatures or breaks down the caseine beta A1 protein of dairy so it's much less immunogenic so it we've we haven't eliminated the problems with dairy but we've minimized a lot of the problems but you could still use goat or sheep or A2 dairy or you can use coconut milk if you use canned coconut milk you just got to make sure there's no additives like jelin gum or zanthin gum we do add gu gum as it's a preotic fiber because coconut milk likes to separate and you're get a big layer of fat and layer of protein so we have to add guar gum there's a couple other steps it's all in the super gut book the additional steps to go through the I'll tell you one thing there's there's debate on whether you should get rid of H pylori interesting I think it's wrong I think if you have H pylori you must get rid of it yeah yeah because I've seen this happen too many times Katie somebody has H pylori the and the doctor ah no it's not bothering you right yeah he said no I feel fine I got that well here's what happens over the years you get hypochlorhydria you get a loss of the capacity to produce stomach acid once you have that you can never regain the capacity to produce stomach acid it's kind of like type one diabetes you never get back the capacity to produce insulin so once you damage your parial cells that produce insulin you never get it back and then you're going to have essenti intractable sibo that won't go away so there's some debate people like Martin Blazer friends in Columbia says things like um well you know having it can be an advantage in your immune response there's a little less asthma pardon me in children who have H paror now but uh uh when you have hypochlorhydria it's the precursor also to stomach cancer so weighing all things I would get rid of the H prodct and by the way I have there's a whole bunch of uh strategies in the super gut book one of the great things in the world of H pylori is that because of the failure the resistance that H par is so good at generating uh and the increasing failure of the conventional antibiotics for hpy there's been a lot of evidence on alternatives for getting rid of H pyi so you now have a ton of great choices and we've been eradicating it very successfully I know I was reading in your in your book in the um it was the appendix of the resource section and I I thought it was really interesting reading your studies of what you utilized with your own with your own patients to eradicate the H pylori it's quite easy and I believe it's more effective than the conventional antibiotic cocktail right and that's the other thing Dr Davis is like we were saying earlier is over 90% of our clients come in on long-term antibiotics when we say longterm like seven years straight of antibiotics so when you hear things like seven years straight of antibiotics what what what goes through your brain well we know they're gonna have sibo and we know it's G to be really really bad so those people so that sibo yogurt I told you about we typically do it for four weeks and then we continue it intermittently afterwards maybe two or three times a week because sio loves to recur but people with that kind of a history they almost always have to take the sibo yogurt for many months ongoing they have it yeah and only then and now how do you know the sibo has receded or is gone well one way would be to test with the air device hydrogen gas another way would be to watch for what phenomena you're experiencing so if you're experiencing fat malabsorption for instance so fecal microbes in the duodenum block the action of pancreatic enzymes in bile and you can't digest fats and you see fat droplets in the toilet another real common thing is food intolerances people say I can't eat night shades I'm on a low fod Maps diet I can't eat histamin containing foods there's nothing wrong with the food there's some you have sibo and if you let's say you can't eat eggs because it gives you stomach ache asthma skin rash whatever or you can't eat um tomatoes because they give you bloating and diarrhea blah blah well try after four weeks you can try take a little bit of one of those foods and see if you respond and you can see if you're now tolerant and so uh food intolerance is a very very common um sign that you have sibo and when it goes away the food intolerance goes away it's good evidence that you've conquered your SEO now the intolerance of food there's a timing issue there too that's often not talked about if you eat something that makes you sick and it happens within 90 minutes it's virtually guaranteed that you have SEO because if let's say I eat um uh some tomato and it if it's going to cause gas or bloating after 90 minutes that could have happened in the colon that's okay that's not it's not perfect but it's that's not seone but if you eat that food and it causes gas bloating diarrhea depression Suicidal Thoughts anxiety whatever within 90 minutes that means microbes are living high up in the small intestine that tells you you've got sio it's fascinating right like Chris we have clients that come in that are riddled with food int es and I often find on Instagram on my DMs I have people saying no it's just the food that's causing my acne and we're like it's not the food causing your acne it's your microbiome and what's happening in your digestive system that's causing the acne especially that immune response right the circulatory IG the mucosal barrier when these all get compromised the intestinal permeability and then traveling of the toxins through the blood system I mean it's really easy to get acne it's really easy when our food that is supposed to be absorbed and assimilated in the intestinal tract now is free floating and you know causing Invaders and you know one of the big things I also see is when people come in and they're like I mean Dr Dr Davis you're going to probably understand this wholeheartedly and confirm that you know you add a little bit of indigestion and heartburn here's your proton pump inhibitor see you have fun you're going to further suppress that stomach acid you are just creating the beautiful breeding ground for the H pylori because it now it is resistant to hydrochloric acid it has that resistant strain now you've just said hey I don't have to fight for it I say to our clients how many times do you let people come into your house live for free cook for them pay for all their bills I said that's called children isn't it how many children do you really want living in your home right these types of things so why are we allowing all the these people into our body right that's ours that we're supposed to claim host for this and if we're more bacteria than anything else you better be giving yourself some little TLC right you know I'm sure you two see a lot of this people say well if I don't eat such and such my acne gets a little better or my gas and bloating is a little bit better or whatever and and I want I don't want to talk about the see but it's too scary it's too difficult right well not a good idea right what are the consequences of uncorrected sibo because just eliminating that food does not correct the sibo in fact can make the situation worse so if you don't correct the sibo you're opening yourself up to weight gain obesity increased potential for type 2 diabetes increased potential for coronary disease atrial fibrillation fibromyalgia depression cognitive impairment Alzheimer's dementia Parkinson's disease uh psoriasis rosacea colon cancer diverticular disease in other words multiple sclerosis you're asking for trouble it may take some years before you have those things appear but there's going to be trouble ahead so it's very unwise to say this is too scary now that I think we have this kind of yog yogurt type of solution I I don't it's not as scary it's easy to do it's not as scary at all and what's interesting there Dr Davis as you started listing all of those off is you know after back in 2019 I had these these antibiotics my digestion went off and my nerve pain in um intensified tenfold and doctors kept saying you have fibromyalgia you fibromyalgia and I'm like that's not a diagnosis it's a set of symptoms what is causing the set of symptoms and it was so fascinating to me when I was reading super gut is you said 100% of fibromyalgia sufferers have sibo yes if we believe Mark pinel's evidence so Mark pimel is one of the great researchers in sibo and gastrointestinal he's at cedra sign at Los Angeles and in his trial he did a trial very interesting he he generates very high quality evidence took something like a 100 people with eral bow syndrome 100 people with fibromyalgia and 100 healthy controls and then test him for hydrogen gas production well the people with IBS uh 84% tested positive for sibo of the people with fibromyalgia 100% tested positive to a severe degree and I've seen this play out in real life people have fibromyalgia we correct it we correct the disbiosis and the SEO and their fibromyalgia recedes isn't that incredible and it's so interesting because I feel like a lot of our society doesn't connect their gut health to all of these other symptoms that they're experiencing absolutely it could be cognitive impairment it could be Suicidal Thoughts it could be in so for me insomnia so one of the great effects of the roite for me is so I'm a chronic Insomniac struggle to sleep have for decades and decades melatonin cryptanite I sleep all the way through deep sleep with Vivid childlike green by the way as an illustration just how powerful microbes can be I combined it with a microb called lactobacillus casii C SEI Shota it's a commercial product called yakul it's an awful product it's sugary skim milk so we take we take that sugary product and we ferment it as yogurt well when I did the combination of lactobacilus rorai and lacil KCI Shota I was sleeping a chronic Insomniac I was sleeping 12 hours a night or more I had to stop it the effect was so profound but it worked too well but sleep sleep's good sleep is also connected to the impairment in the perpetuation of that sio too right like it's all these co-actors like please everybody as you're listening to this I'm kind of drooling if you can see me on you know because I'm like Dr Davis keep talking like you're just preaching what what we love right like it's all full circle so you know a big sleep disruptor of course is inappropriate surges in in cortisol right so we're supposed to have a morning surge that helps you helps arouse you and a lot of people especially if they've been exposed to stress have mistiming circadium drimis that is they they wake up at two or three in the in the morning they can't fall back asleep their heart's racing and so one thing I don't know how to do is to shift the timing but we can suppress the Surge and the two that are most affected to my knowledge are lact toil ruai lactobacilus gaseri have been shown good evidence to suppress that excessive cortisol Surge and I feel like we're going to sell out of uh rorai everywhere everyone everywhere is going to be going to buy rotor stocking up on it like it's toilet paper during Co and pretty much and uh I'm I would love for you to answer this question because it's something that we talk about quite often with our own audience and our own clients is Will probiotics alone fix your gut No in fact it's the last item on the list because most probiotics are formulated like this they say okay this microb is in throw it in that microb has some throw it in they're halfhazard collections it's going to get better so one of the things that has not been done is to incorporate what are called a guild or Consortium effects all that means is putting together microbes that work together as a community so it's one of the reasons why if your mom gave you lactobacilus rorai at Birth and breastfeeding you'd have it for a lifetime barring exposure antibiotics and other things but if you get it say as a probiotic or as a yogurt or whatever refermented food it takes up residents for a few days well why well probably because we didn't restore the entire community of microbes so the probiotic of the future will likely be something like this lact toils rotari with five other species or whatever that work together via metabolites so current products there's only one group of products from a company called biot quest uh biotti Quest and they do incorporate some effort at collaborative effects my friend Dr Reno is the formulator for those uh products uh and there's a lot of nonsense going on in the probiotic World some of it for competition it's it's a crowded world for instance some products will double encapsulate so that it's released into the colon now wait a minute if half the world has sio in the small intestine why would you delay release into the colon you want release into the small intestine and then of course sometimes the inclusion of microbes that don't do very much like lactobacilus acidophilus so there's a lot of issues with Pro it's going to get better but right now the when people want to reimplant healthy microbes first thing you do well first of all remove things that disrupt it stomach acid blocking drugs buy organic foods filter your drinking water um avoid processed foods with preservatives and emulsifying agents so all clean up your life and then plant seeds with fermented foods kimchi cfers yogurts yogurts that you make not the stuff in the store um veggies fermented on your kitchen counter for listeners who don't know how to do that it's very simple it's in the super gut book there's people like Donna schwank there's companies like cultures for health and Cutting Edge cultures you can buy starter cultures so easy to do and inexpensive yeah I I love that those are some really great and easy tips that people can absolutely do at home and you know what Katie it's one of the most powerful things people can do for skin Health they don't think of having kimchi or sourkraut for skin Health but what happens is you get the microbes of fermented foods these are species like Lucano or pedia cacus these are microbes that don't take up residence in the human GI tract you ingest them and they go from mouth to toilet but in their Passage through that the 30 feet of your GI track they feed act like little Farmers for beneficial microbes the ones that for instance produce butyrate the butyric acid for your skin and so the fermented foods one of the most important things uh people can do for skin health and appearance and it's incredible right is is simple things that you can be doing every single day it doesn't have to be these massive big crazy you know Trends and celery juicing and all these fads that you see on social media it can be these really really simple things so uh Dr Davis thank you you so incredibly much for joining us today uh my first tip for everybody is go and buy Super gut if you do not have Dr Davis's book yet Barnes & Noble Indigo Amazon adcart you will love it now Dr Davis I would love if there was one parting thing that you would love for our audience to really take away what would that be don't make this tougher than it is it's really quite easy adding back fermented foods uh culturing or fermenting some of those important microbes like root gas I think it's not a stretch so we're talking about better GI Health we're talking about thicker smoother more youthful skin we're talking about a return of youthful musculature an increase in libido increase in testosterone for males a a improve reproductive health for for ladies um empathy generosity acceptance of other people's opinions reduction of social isolation reduction of social anxiety I mean this this is not just less bloting or less diarrhea or less constipation we're talking about I don't think it's a stretch to say this is lifechanging and it's easy and it does not have to involve the doctor or the hospital so we're saying sibo yogurt for World Peace that's going to be the new slogan of super gut everybody okay that's the next Edition that's yeah that's the revised W for it we're waiting for it good idea thanks so much Dr Davis we really appreciate you joining us today thank you Katie thank you Chris all right everybody that was another wonderful episode here on the clear skin Chronicles and we will see you next week thanks for hanging out with us this week on the clear skin Chronicles we'll see you next Wednesday with a brand new episode remember to subscribe to the show and drop us a review sending glowing vibes your way Katie and Chris [Music]

now wait a minute here how do how can you lose up to eight or more inches off your waist but not lose weight well consistent with the previous evidence in animals and humans increase in muscle so you you you ladies know that as we age we lose about a third of our muscle so you see little old ladies and guys skinny arms and legs they&#39;re frail they can&#39;t go upstairs they have to use a scooter all that stuff well we see a restoration of youthful muscle so you know what it&#39;s the exact oppos opposite of OIC face welcome to the clear skin Chronicles the podcast that takes you on a journey to uncover the secrets of achieving glowing acnefree skin we believe that knowledge is power and by understanding the root causes of your acne we can create a solid foundation for long lasting clear skin I&#39;m Katy Stewart registered holistic nutritionist and founder of the clear skin solution where we help women just like you get to the root cause of their acne and I&#39;m Chris Brown registered holistic nutritionist and program director in the clear skin solution through functional testing we pinpoint where the body system imbalances lie so we can dive deep into your Acne Clearing Journey we work virtually with clients to clear up their skin from the inside out and have helped thousands of women worldwide regain their [Music] confidence so I&#39;m kind of having a little bit of a full circle moment today on the podcast um I&#39;m so excited both Chris and I are so excited for our next guest Dr William Davis and I say this is a full circle moment for me because back in 2011 before I was a nutritionist when I was still eating that standard North American diet not understanding why I had migraines and stomach aches and skin issues and joint pain and all of the fun things that I was told were just normal I found out I was Celiac and a colleague of mine gave me a book called wheat belly and if you&#39;re watching on YouTube you can see that I&#39;ve had this book so long that the pages have started to yellow and this was actually one of the very first nutrition books I ever read and now I have New York Times best-selling author cardiologist Dr William Davis on the show the author of weat belly and super gut so Dr Davis thank you so so much for joining us today oh thank you ktie thanks for having me thank you Chris yeah we Chris and I have been talking about this for a few weeks um you know we&#39;ve been really looking forward to it we love your book and Chris and I were just talking before you hopped on is it&#39;s a really easy read super gut your newest book super gut it for the average person it&#39;s really easy to understand because a lot of these books can be really complicated and the average person may not understand the terminology but you&#39;ve done a really phenomenal job of breaking it down and making it very easy to digest thank you the analogies I I&#39;m I have an inner geek in me I love it I rather Katie&#39;s the outside face and I&#39;m I&#39;m like the inner right so I just want to commend you on that because those analogies really connect everything for people and like Katie said easy read with a lot of valuable information thank you Chris nice good feedback yeah I think honestly I think everybody should read it because it&#39;s it&#39;s such a profound book that can be so insightful so let&#39;s kind of I wanted to take to talk about you know the microbiome as a whole of course we&#39;re going to get into the impacts of the skin and acne and those you know side symptoms that a lot of acne sufferers have so Dr Davis I would love for you to you know really help us break down what&#39;s happened to our guts microbiome in this Industrial Revolution and how it&#39;s really been quite different from what our ancestors microbiome has looked like sure Katie so we&#39;ve been exposed as a society to so many factors that are disruptive over the composition of microbes in our gastrointestinal tracks pardon me as well as elsewhere by the way in the skin in the airway in the uh reproductive tract the female reproductive tract uh the bladder who would have guessed the bladder has a microbiome we thought it was sterile it&#39;s not sterile but all the things we&#39;ve been exposed to as a society multiple courses of antibiotics preservatives and food that kill microbes like mold and food but also kill microbes in you emulsifying agents in ice cream and salad dressing compounds like polysorbate a carboxymethyl cellulos and caragine emulsify your intestinal barrier and thereby disrupt the the microbial composition acid blocking drugs stomach acid blocking drugs anti-inflammatory drugs like nioxin and ibuprofen chlorinated drinking water on and on on we we swim in the sea of factors that disrupt the microbes and among the the uh casualties is we&#39;ve lost hundreds we&#39;ve literally lost hundreds of microbial species including some very very important species that were doing good things things for us a lot of the most beneficial species like my favorite microbe of all for a variety of reasons including by the way skin is lactobacillus RI and we&#39;ve lost it it was the the German microbiologist who discovered it in 1962 Dr ghard reuter isolated it from the breast milk of a German breastfeeding mother and he found it easy to find in breast milk in stool in his 40-year career he found it increasingly more difficult to find that microb such that he couldn&#39;t almost find it anymore after 40 years and this is this remains true today if you look for it you&#39;re gonna find almost nobody has this very important microb that has all kinds of Health implications skin bone muscle libido reproductive organs um emotional health and we&#39;ve lost it it&#39;s incredible I know when I was reading your book um I thought some of the really interesting facts that people would be surprised to know is that even the changes in your microbiome can be impactful for things like pre-term labor yes isn&#39;t that something a there&#39;s a whole new world uh now there&#39;s a lot more to talk about for for for females and there is for guys the the male microbiome conversation really needs to advance further but ladies are a lot more complicated but you&#39;re right there are changes in the reproductive microbiome for ladies loss for instance of the microb very important lacab bacillus Chris spotus about a third of the world&#39;s female population has lost that that microbe and when you lose it you&#39;re more prone to candada infections you&#39;re more prone to as you say miscarriages more prone to premature labor uh more prone to urinary tract infections and vaginal dryness that which becomes a real problem for older older women like in their 60s uh and restoring it has spectacular effects how about bit backacter infantis that if a pregnant mom has it passes it onto her child at delivery and breastfeeding that child is healthier there&#39;s better neurological maturation higher IQ less likely to have asthma or obesity or type two diabetes later in life and able to draw from all the nutritional value of human milk oligosaccharides in breast milk so there&#39;s so much in the the female reproductive Health with regards to the microbiome now one of the great tragedies though is you&#39;d think baby formula would be the smartest most effective product on the planet right because it&#39;s so important no no we&#39;re all on team no here yeah all on team no yeah it&#39;s really fascinating is you know something Chris and I both tell to our clients is your current health status really is an accumulation of everything that&#39;s happened from conception up until this moment in time and I find that&#39;s really eye opening for a lot of people because they they you don&#39;t realize the connection between the health of the the mom as she&#39;s pregnant with the growing baby and even how the baby is delivered and brought into the world we&#39;ve reallyi we yeah convenience I always I always say we&#39;re a prime Amazon type person you know my children don&#39;t know what it is for a commercial you know even if there&#39;s a commercial on their YouTube they&#39;re like oh we need a subscription I can&#39;t listen to this 10 second they&#39;re like what are you doing Mom and I&#39;m like it&#39;s just an infomercial and they&#39;re like I said listen it used to be 90 seconds when I was a kid I can handle 15 seconds so you know what I love that you addressed in the book is cesarian sections and being able to go and book those because it&#39;s a convenience method I&#39;m not talking about the emergency because absolutely time and place for everything but when you book your own child&#39;s date for convenience we have to step back and look at that microbiome look at what we could potentially be losing not in judgment but in quality of health fair you know what interesting is a lot of these things we were you and I we were all given hints at a lot of these effects but didn&#39;t see them for what they were you always think about Vitamin D it sat on the side of your milk carton for decades and we didn&#39;t recognize that it&#39;s one of the most important things people can do for health well likewise if if Chris says Hey I want to deliver my baby at when on Wednesday August 23rd at 8: am well how do you do that she comes into the hospital they put an IV in they give you an infusion of oxytocin pcin that&#39;s the brand name but it&#39;s oxytocin that provokes uterine contraction and cervical relaxation and Crystal livers her baby right not knowing that that&#39;s a hint at the huge role that this wonderful hormone oxytocin plays in overall health but also reproductive health so it&#39;s responsible for the uterine contraction and delivery of the child it&#39;s also responsible for uh being able to express breast milk so a lot of ladies have trouble breastfeeding and one of the reasons is the loss of the capacity to produce Ro oxytocin because we lost the microb that provokes oxytocin lactobacilus RI a lot of ladies struggle with postpartum depression that&#39;s a low oxytocin state so so many facets of female reproductive Health delivery Post delivery are affected impaired by the loss of lactb rorine and thereby the loss of oxytocin and I also think a lot about this now wait so oxytocin the hormone of love and empathy and sociability and we lost that microb their bi oxytocin at a time time of record suicide record social isolation divorce 50% of all marriages right and I wasn&#39;t aware of this till recently the psychology Community has been formally tabulating measuring the narcissistic behaviors in in people since 1963 and the increase in narcissistic behavior has sharply increased it&#39;s a 45 degree upward climb since 19 63 true or false 1963 I am a very important person in this world 1963 133% of people say yes I am our time it&#39;s more like 83% of people now it&#39;s not it&#39;s not just Ro oyos there&#39;s other reasons capitalistic Society I can think of a few right now yes but it&#39;s something we can do something about we can restore this microbe lost by nearly everybody regain that empathy generosity better control over reproductive behavior and breastfeeding and mood after delivery and also oxytocin is also the hormone I call it the hormone of body composition it determines how you look where you have muscle where you have fat the texture and and the uh look of your skin uh has so many effects that that&#39;s just one microb there&#39;s many other microbes but Lac basil if your listeners walk away from this with one message that is recognize the incredible power of this one microbe lails Ride Ride by the way is reu t r i like the Reuters News service it&#39;s German yeah it&#39;s actually one of the strains we specifically look for in probiotics for our skin our acne and skin clients because it has such that profound effect and Dr Davis you know with acne of course you know there comes a whole slew of other symptoms because acne is never really just one symptom that the individual is experiencing something that Chris and I see a lot with our clients is we&#39;re dealing with mental health issues they&#39;re dealing with anxiety they&#39;re dealing with depression they&#39;re on you know SSRI and it&#39;s really fascinating when you start to pull back from that eagle ey perspective and you look that it could all be connected right back down to those missing microbes in their gut absolutely excellent point Katie so you&#39;re right losing hundreds of beneficial microbes oddly allows feal microbes these are microbes are supposed to live in your colon where and the Colon&#39;s perfectly fine doing that but these feal microbes like ecoli and salmonella and calaor which may sound familiar because they&#39;re also the species of food poisoning so these feal microbes because you&#39;ve lost beneficial species have been allowed to ascend into the small intestine into the 24t of small intestine small intestinal bacterial overgrowth sibo we say well the small intestine is by Design very permeable because that&#39;s where you&#39;re supposed to absorb amino acids and vitamins and minerals and so but when feom microbes gain access and colonize the small intestine when they die they only live for a few hours when they die they release some of their toxic components from their cell walls into the bloodstream that&#39;s called endotoxin and when endotoxin gains access through the very permeable small intestine into the bloodstream that&#39;s called endotoxemia that explains how microbes disrupted feal microbes in the small intestine can be experienced as eczema rosacea psoriasis in the skin or in the brain as depression anxiety cognitive impairment suicide or in muscle and Joints as fibromyalgia or rheumatoid arthritis so now we have an explanation and scientifically validated and corroborated numerous times now how gut microbes influence uh the skin another aspect of all this when you have fecal microbes invading your small intestine you also you lose all even further you lose beneficial microbes beneficial microbes are those that produce butyrate or butyric acid which has many wonderful effects like reducing blood pressure reducing blood sugar better sleep better dreams Etc and better skin because that butc so you you ladies may know healthy skin is acidic as a pH of about 4.5 and someone who&#39;s got acne or eczema or psoriasis they have a pH of about 5.5 less acidic so as you recall the pH scale is logarithmic so the difference between 5.5 and 4.5 is tfold tfold more acidic well when you get microbes when you bring back order in your GI tract reduce those feal microbes restore healthy microbes that produce butc acid some of it goes to the skin acidifies your skin and it reduces the populations of staf cacus orius which is a familiar pathogen and encourages proliferation of stafl cacus epidermitis a beneficial microb and you thereby gain moisture reduction of redness reduction of blemishes so you&#39;re right the the the GI microbiome for so many reasons plays a big role in in skin appearance and health and this really is the the gut skin axis what we&#39;re discussing yes now another thing I like to weaving though is you know we&#39;ve been given terrible terrible advice on diet right yes cut your saturated fat e well think what they did for you right Katie eat more healthy whole grains not a not a mention made of the people who have got celiac disease and other forms of intolerance to wheat and Grains well when you go wheat and grainfree there are additional benefits on the skin but one of the things that happened when we were given that advice was most people in North America abandoned consumption of organ Meats tongue brain stomach intestines heart that means the intake of collagen and hyaluronic acid drop to very low levels so we&#39;re supposed to get lots of collagen and Hy because those I know your FOC your latest focus is is skin health so you know that collagen taken orally increases dermal collagen of course the seat of skin health is the dermal layer so collagen peptides increase dermal collagen increase the thickness of the dermal layer and by the way it also rebuilds joint cartilage and the collagen in your arteries and a collagen is very glycation prone it gets it&#39;s damaged every time your blood glucose goes above 5 Mill or 100 milligrams per deciliter and it becomes irreversibly damaged that&#39;s why people get crepy skin and thinning of the dermal lay now you can rebuild that by getting collagen hyaluronic hyaluronic gas is so interesting I know lots of ladies put serums around their eyes they spend all the money on all the serums myself included so I asked well okay you put it around your eyes what did it do for your skin on your on your neck or thighs or buttocks or or abdomen nothing of course so let&#39;s get hyaluronic acid orally that you would have gotten had you eaten brain or skin or tongue and hyaluronic acid also adds to dermal collagen stimulates dermal collagen production it also increases moisture content of the dermal layer so hyaluronic a is incredibly good at retaining water not not edema kind of water but a healthy uh location water in dermal and Incredibly hyaluronic acid is rare in that it&#39;s a fiber most fibers we get from F from food from Plants but here&#39;s a fiber that we get from animals and this fiber causes proliferation of those butyrate producing species like acrania and Fala bacterium and lacos spacia and all they Al it also suppresses FAL microbes so oral hyaluronic acid better joint health synovial fluids made of of hyaluronic acid better arterial Health arteries are aligned by something called a glycocalix a signal molecule made of hyaluronic acid so heart health joint health skin health and skin health for a variety of reasons so this thing abandoned people say I bought boneless skinless chicken breast they thrw away the skin that contained the hyaluronic acid so it&#39;s bad for your heart right Dr Dr Davis it&#39;s it&#39;s bad it it&#39;s full of saturated fats right this is what&#39;s coming up I know I chuckle too but I&#39;m being very fous here being a cardiologist I&#39;m sure that&#39;s why I like it I think hyaluronic ass is a terribly uh um neglected factor in heart health that&#39;ll come that&#39;ll come to light over time another thing that&#39;s happened is you know your your friends and family probably order food from fast food joint right they get their food brought by Uber or lift in a clamshell you don&#39;t even know how that was made you don&#39;t know what oil was used it&#39;s not organic right one of the uh problems that emerges from this Reliance on process and Ultra processed foods is the dramatic droping carotenoid intake betacarotene lutein zanthin cryptantha and several hundred others well when you do that you lose control over skin health and body comp compos so restoring carotenoids uh protects you from sun damage it partially reverses existing sun damage it shrinks your waist and has very potent anti-inflammatory effects there&#39;s a suspicion that there&#39;s something called inflaming the inflammation of aging and aanon one of the few things that suppresses a carotenoid it&#39;s the most potent carotenoid of all asanin that&#39;s the carotenoid in like salmon it&#39;s the pink in salmon and lobster is incredibly anti-inflammatory now I did a small clinical trial where relevant to skin health because I know your listeners are interested in skin I I restored lactobacilus rotaride I threw in Marine Source collagen pepti Marine Source because it&#39;s effective at lower doses than Bine and porcine hyaluronic acid 120 milligrams and asanin four milligrams and 25 ladies we ask them please don&#39;t change your diet please don&#39;t change your exercise program we&#39;re going to take a look at your skin and we do such things as high resolution skin ultrasound measure the dermal thickness ladies were pleased after 90 days their dermal layer increased 15% most of the time if you take just collagen you&#39;ll get like maybe a six to s% increase in dermal thickness so we&#39;re seeing 15% so twice that&#39;s 90 days probably more over a long time we didn&#39;t we didn&#39;t go beyond 90 days so 15% increase in dermal thickness uh ladies were happy because they lost lot lost crows feet lost smile lines some started to see a reduction in the nasal lavial fold and forehead wrinkles as well as other parts of the body too but to our surprise we also measured waist circumference this was a skin clinical trial interesting but we measured waist circumference just because it&#39;s free why not so no no change in diet no change in exercise dramatic reduction in waste circumference wow now even more interesting as much is 8 in even more interesting they didn&#39;t lose weight now wait a minute here how do how can you lose up to eight or more inches off your waist but not lose weight well consistent with the previous evidence in animals and humans increas in muscle so you you you ladies know that as we age we lose about a third of our muscle so you see little old ladies and guys skinny arms and legs they&#39;re frail they can&#39;t go upstairs they have to use a scooter all that stuff well we see restoration of youthful muscle so you know what it&#39;s the exact opposite of OIC face Thea it&#39;s it&#39;s the better o zic face so those people pay $112,000 for we goie or whatever and they lose 40 pounds say 10 pounds of which is muscle and those drugs are specific more for subcutaneous fat less for abdominal fat so they lose 40 pounds yeah and look 10 to 20 years older and by the way when they stop the drug because most people can&#39;t afford that kind of money forever they regain 32 to 34 pounds of fat almost all fat almost no muscle they&#39;re actually more at risk for type two diabetes heart disease cognitive impairment dementia and breast cancer higher risk than they were at the start so I think we have a way of res so what we&#39;re really doing is restoring things lost you lost Rai you&#39;re not getting collagen you&#39;re not getting a hyaluronic acid you&#39;re not getting carotenoids like asdan you restore them not only do you have better skin thicker dermal lay reduction in blemishes and sun damage but you also restore youthful Contours incredible all from repairing your microbiome getting the collagen the higher low ionic acid the zanthin and none of these people had to go to the the spa and get botox and fillers and facials and OIC and all of the things that our society tells us we need in order to you know have that anti-aging effect you ladies know that they inject hyaluronic acid as filler in the face as lubrication in joints uh so there was all these hints that things like hyaluronic acid have astounding effects but few appreciated that the real benefits come from adding it back to your diet and what&#39;s interesting Dr Davis is so often we hear our clients say my doctor said my diet has nothing to do with how my skin looks but you&#39;re here to officially break that myth for us that 100% the things you&#39;re eating are going to be are going to make or break how your body and your skin is working and functioning absolutely it&#39;s crucial it&#39;s critical to skin health and so as you as you two know you your your efforts your efforts can include lots of topical products but you can&#39;t expect full restoration of skin Health dermal thickness anti-inflammatory protection from inflammation you can&#39;t expect that by relying only on on topical products you got to address diet you have to address factors lost in Modern Life and another thing I would love to touch on is Chris what we see time and time again is the majority of our clients Chris what would you say would be the percentage of our clients that have taken long-term antibiotics for their acne and we&#39;re told that this was their only solution we&#39;re well into the 90 percentile well because it&#39;s it&#39;s deemed as bacterial it&#39;s deemed as acne fighting however as Dr Davis said let&#39;s step back let&#39;s look at the cultures let&#39;s look at the pH balance of the skin itself what are we doing to feed it let&#39;s look at the lipop pooly um saccharides you know their LPS&#39;s okay in all truth be told if you have children in the car right now you might want to turn me down but LPS&#39;s I call them little pieces of because of what they do inside the body right I don&#39;t know Dr Davis if this is PG I think I I just I just did that but um I really look that it&#39;s that that endotoxemia that you talk about it&#39;s the catastrophic breakdown it&#39;s a fact that the standard North American diet is high in silica and silica is a predisposition mineral of silicone and fine that we&#39;re just going to pump in these but that&#39;s going to disrupt that collagen that collagen availability inside the body right so it&#39;s not just a matter of going and pumping ourselves full of supplements and pumping ourselves full of maybe just a diet the fact is it&#39;s the entire lifestyle balance it&#39;s understanding what works it&#39;s transitioning right it&#39;s you know Dr Davis gave us a lot of things to say hey I did a clinical trial and you know how many people stopped rewound wrote it down and are on their way right now to a health food store to get exactly all of those things right however if you don&#39;t know how to be monitored and do then at one point when you come off these supplements Dr Davis what&#39;s going to happen if we don&#39;t start transitioning the rest of it right yeah so these these are not permanent effects it it requires ongoing effort but it is an illustration of the incredible power of both the microbiome and its effects on skin and overall health but also the the power of restoring things lost from the human diet like hyaluronic acid and catenoids I was also talking to my friend Dr Kieran Krishnan he&#39;s a microbiologist he&#39;s the guy that started microbiome labs and yeah he was behind the megaspore biotic thing I was talking to him yet just a couple days ago and they have very good evidence that restoration topically and orally of two microbes basilla subtilus and Basil&#39;s coagulant has dramatic effects on acne and they&#39;re going to extend their science into other sorts of rashes too like rosace s and so on that&#39;s not a drug so we can&#39;t say these things out loud often but they&#39;re seeing dramatic effects on skin by restoring or by uh using these two spor forming microbes also yeah we I I really do love microbiome Labs I actually have a bottle of that that exact probiotic uh sitting on my table over there and for you when we&#39;re looking at you know all of the different strains of those probiotics of course there&#39;s a lactobacillus in the bit bacterium but there was also this other you know category of the Spore or the soil-based probiotics could you give a little bit of insights into those very interesting class of microbes I I I should point out some of the critics though of of probiotic there there&#39;s a lot of issues with probiotics good and bad some people say they don&#39;t survive stomach acid or bio they do especially not not all of them do but two of my favorite microbes lactobacilus rotari and lactobacilus gaseri those are two re really important microbes they survive stomach acid and bile very easily and that&#39;s how they colonize the small intestine so the loss of those two microbes in particular may be a big part of the explanation why there&#39;s so much sibo now because those two policed the small intestine they colonize the small intestine they produce bacteria natural antibiotics effective against feal microbes we lose those fecal microbes have been given an open invitation to colonize your small intestine and have all those adverse effects one Spore forming microb is very interesting basilis coagulant and now we&#39;re using the with I&#39;m sorry about these strain designation you ladies know the strain designations are kind of a pain in the neck but it&#39;s the gbi 3686 strain that strain ger it&#39;s a Spore it&#39;s like a seed it germinates in the small intestine and then releases its own bacteria sins and by the way the com I I&#39;ve done this combination restore lail RI and the atcc PTA 6475 strain I&#39;m sorry well they&#39;ll rewind they&#39;ll write it down okay lacto basilis gaser the bnr17 strain and that strain of basilis coagulant now what we do is we co-ferment them as yogurt but use extended fermentation as as you ladies know microbes don&#39;t have sex there&#39;s no male and female microbes one microbe reproduces itself become two like that well we allow so rotari doubles every 3 hours at human body temperature so we allow it to double 12 times we perform flow citometry a method of counting microbes on the yogurts we get about 300 billion so we&#39;re increased in counts 100 or a thousand fold by extended fermentation it looks and smells like yogurt of course it&#39;s not yogurt you can&#39;t buy it in a store and we have it with some blueberries or CH seeds whatever and we&#39;re seeing uh reversal of Sione wow in over 90 % of people I did not expect that I was I did this to maybe help people deal with some bloating or diarrhea I did not expect sio to go away in the majority of people and we know that by the way because of the availability of the consumer device the air device okay so you know so AI air measures hydrogen gas so I look at these devices as mapping devices they tell you where in the GI track microbes are living because they&#39;re not supposed to be FAL microbes is not supposed to be in the 24 feet of stomach dadum junam and ilium it&#39;s really incredible that you know we have this technology now where we&#39;re able to see this because I&#39;m sure Dr Davis you know without this technology we wouldn&#39;t be able to have these conversations about where um the different strains are in the intestinal tract because as you mentioned in your book a colonoscopy can only show so much and an endoscopy can only show so much but there&#39;s a a very large portion of your intestinal tract that can&#39;t be seen from that scope mhm and even today if if Chris went to her gastron neurologist and said hey I think I have sibo and most of them will say no you don&#39;t you&#39;ve been Consulting Dr Google again haven&#39;t you Chris or I didn&#39;t see anything on the colonoscopy or the endoscopy you don&#39;t see it you can&#39;t see it and so this has been neglected for so it&#39;s starting to get some traction but they&#39;re still talking about if if you even get tested for it most of them don&#39;t even know how to test it but uh or don&#39;t want to be bothered because they&#39;re too busy charging a lot of money it&#39;s worse in the US right of course it&#39;s much worse here but uh they&#39;re too busy doing their uh uh procedures for a lot of money they can&#39;t be bothered with your health so that&#39;s why it&#39;s a great time because now the wisdom on how to do this you know if I said you can get rid of sibo by removing the 24 feet of your small intestine well Katie would say well you better be damn confin that&#39;s true right yeah what if you can get rid of your sibo by making something that looks and smells like yogurt in your kitchen well now the threshold is so low so safe and by the way I I call it sibo yogurt and I regret calling it that because it makes it seem like it&#39;s only good for sibo it&#39;s not so what we&#39;re really doing is restoring what are called keystone species very important foundational species that when you restore those microbes lost because of all the things that disrupt your microbiome it brings back other species too allows other species to proliferate because it&#39;s bringing back order by reducing the populations of those FAL microbes now I have a question here which kind of is timing out well is I recently did a GI map and found that I&#39;m riddled with sibo and H pylori so I so this is a great chat for us to be having and of course you know I&#39;ve been really digging into your book and and mine comes from I had pH pylori for quite some time but I believe you know the sibo was a combination of after I had two late pregnancy losses in 2019 and after my DNC they they watched me take like a quadruple dose of antibiotics in the hospital and since then my gut has just been a disaster and I you know being a practitioner I just didn&#39;t have time to go and sort out my own health so now that the symptoms are so bad I&#39;ve decided to really you know focus on my gut get the the microbiome and work on the sibo so you&#39;re saying I&#39;m GNA go and make myself some yogurt this weekend the recipe that you have and that&#39;s going to be a great great addition to the SEO protocol that I&#39;m working on so now my yeah I&#39;m really excited to be honest like your book couldn&#39;t have come at a better time for me so I&#39;m really excited to be able to dig in and follow all of your uh you know be one of your own clinical human uh trials over here in Canada so she&#39;s really good at this Dr Davis her own human clinical trial so I&#39;m wondering is you know when you call it a sibo yogurt how does it fair for those that have a dairy intolerance so you can well several things to know when we do extended fermentation of dairy and I use organic half and half because I also reject this idea that we should limit fat in any form well saturated fat in total fat so I use organic half and half the extended fermentation maximally reduces lactose and converts it to lactic acid and the acidification the pH is about 3.5 uh compared to 4.5 of conventional yogurt 10 so 10 fold more acidic it is tart uh well that degree of acidification also denatures or breaks down the caseine beta A1 protein of dairy so it&#39;s much less immunogenic so it we&#39;ve we haven&#39;t eliminated the problems with dairy but we&#39;ve minimized a lot of the problems but you could still use goat or sheep or A2 dairy or you can use coconut milk if you use canned coconut milk you just got to make sure there&#39;s no additives like jelin gum or zanthin gum we do add gu gum as it&#39;s a preotic fiber because coconut milk likes to separate and you&#39;re get a big layer of fat and layer of protein so we have to add guar gum there&#39;s a couple other steps it&#39;s all in the super gut book the additional steps to go through the I&#39;ll tell you one thing there&#39;s there&#39;s debate on whether you should get rid of H pylori interesting I think it&#39;s wrong I think if you have H pylori you must get rid of it yeah yeah because I&#39;ve seen this happen too many times Katie somebody has H pylori the and the doctor ah no it&#39;s not bothering you right yeah he said no I feel fine I got that well here&#39;s what happens over the years you get hypochlorhydria you get a loss of the capacity to produce stomach acid once you have that you can never regain the capacity to produce stomach acid it&#39;s kind of like type one diabetes you never get back the capacity to produce insulin so once you damage your parial cells that produce insulin you never get it back and then you&#39;re going to have essenti intractable sibo that won&#39;t go away so there&#39;s some debate people like Martin Blazer friends in Columbia says things like um well you know having it can be an advantage in your immune response there&#39;s a little less asthma pardon me in children who have H paror now but uh uh when you have hypochlorhydria it&#39;s the precursor also to stomach cancer so weighing all things I would get rid of the H prodct and by the way I have there&#39;s a whole bunch of uh strategies in the super gut book one of the great things in the world of H pylori is that because of the failure the resistance that H par is so good at generating uh and the increasing failure of the conventional antibiotics for hpy there&#39;s been a lot of evidence on alternatives for getting rid of H pyi so you now have a ton of great choices and we&#39;ve been eradicating it very successfully I know I was reading in your in your book in the um it was the appendix of the resource section and I I thought it was really interesting reading your studies of what you utilized with your own with your own patients to eradicate the H pylori it&#39;s quite easy and I believe it&#39;s more effective than the conventional antibiotic cocktail right and that&#39;s the other thing Dr Davis is like we were saying earlier is over 90% of our clients come in on long-term antibiotics when we say longterm like seven years straight of antibiotics so when you hear things like seven years straight of antibiotics what what what goes through your brain well we know they&#39;re gonna have sibo and we know it&#39;s G to be really really bad so those people so that sibo yogurt I told you about we typically do it for four weeks and then we continue it intermittently afterwards maybe two or three times a week because sio loves to recur but people with that kind of a history they almost always have to take the sibo yogurt for many months ongoing they have it yeah and only then and now how do you know the sibo has receded or is gone well one way would be to test with the air device hydrogen gas another way would be to watch for what phenomena you&#39;re experiencing so if you&#39;re experiencing fat malabsorption for instance so fecal microbes in the duodenum block the action of pancreatic enzymes in bile and you can&#39;t digest fats and you see fat droplets in the toilet another real common thing is food intolerances people say I can&#39;t eat night shades I&#39;m on a low fod Maps diet I can&#39;t eat histamin containing foods there&#39;s nothing wrong with the food there&#39;s some you have sibo and if you let&#39;s say you can&#39;t eat eggs because it gives you stomach ache asthma skin rash whatever or you can&#39;t eat um tomatoes because they give you bloating and diarrhea blah blah well try after four weeks you can try take a little bit of one of those foods and see if you respond and you can see if you&#39;re now tolerant and so uh food intolerance is a very very common um sign that you have sibo and when it goes away the food intolerance goes away it&#39;s good evidence that you&#39;ve conquered your SEO now the intolerance of food there&#39;s a timing issue there too that&#39;s often not talked about if you eat something that makes you sick and it happens within 90 minutes it&#39;s virtually guaranteed that you have SEO because if let&#39;s say I eat um uh some tomato and it if it&#39;s going to cause gas or bloating after 90 minutes that could have happened in the colon that&#39;s okay that&#39;s not it&#39;s not perfect but it&#39;s that&#39;s not seone but if you eat that food and it causes gas bloating diarrhea depression Suicidal Thoughts anxiety whatever within 90 minutes that means microbes are living high up in the small intestine that tells you you&#39;ve got sio it&#39;s fascinating right like Chris we have clients that come in that are riddled with food int es and I often find on Instagram on my DMs I have people saying no it&#39;s just the food that&#39;s causing my acne and we&#39;re like it&#39;s not the food causing your acne it&#39;s your microbiome and what&#39;s happening in your digestive system that&#39;s causing the acne especially that immune response right the circulatory IG the mucosal barrier when these all get compromised the intestinal permeability and then traveling of the toxins through the blood system I mean it&#39;s really easy to get acne it&#39;s really easy when our food that is supposed to be absorbed and assimilated in the intestinal tract now is free floating and you know causing Invaders and you know one of the big things I also see is when people come in and they&#39;re like I mean Dr Dr Davis you&#39;re going to probably understand this wholeheartedly and confirm that you know you add a little bit of indigestion and heartburn here&#39;s your proton pump inhibitor see you have fun you&#39;re going to further suppress that stomach acid you are just creating the beautiful breeding ground for the H pylori because it now it is resistant to hydrochloric acid it has that resistant strain now you&#39;ve just said hey I don&#39;t have to fight for it I say to our clients how many times do you let people come into your house live for free cook for them pay for all their bills I said that&#39;s called children isn&#39;t it how many children do you really want living in your home right these types of things so why are we allowing all the these people into our body right that&#39;s ours that we&#39;re supposed to claim host for this and if we&#39;re more bacteria than anything else you better be giving yourself some little TLC right you know I&#39;m sure you two see a lot of this people say well if I don&#39;t eat such and such my acne gets a little better or my gas and bloating is a little bit better or whatever and and I want I don&#39;t want to talk about the see but it&#39;s too scary it&#39;s too difficult right well not a good idea right what are the consequences of uncorrected sibo because just eliminating that food does not correct the sibo in fact can make the situation worse so if you don&#39;t correct the sibo you&#39;re opening yourself up to weight gain obesity increased potential for type 2 diabetes increased potential for coronary disease atrial fibrillation fibromyalgia depression cognitive impairment Alzheimer&#39;s dementia Parkinson&#39;s disease uh psoriasis rosacea colon cancer diverticular disease in other words multiple sclerosis you&#39;re asking for trouble it may take some years before you have those things appear but there&#39;s going to be trouble ahead so it&#39;s very unwise to say this is too scary now that I think we have this kind of yog yogurt type of solution I I don&#39;t it&#39;s not as scary it&#39;s easy to do it&#39;s not as scary at all and what&#39;s interesting there Dr Davis as you started listing all of those off is you know after back in 2019 I had these these antibiotics my digestion went off and my nerve pain in um intensified tenfold and doctors kept saying you have fibromyalgia you fibromyalgia and I&#39;m like that&#39;s not a diagnosis it&#39;s a set of symptoms what is causing the set of symptoms and it was so fascinating to me when I was reading super gut is you said 100% of fibromyalgia sufferers have sibo yes if we believe Mark pinel&#39;s evidence so Mark pimel is one of the great researchers in sibo and gastrointestinal he&#39;s at cedra sign at Los Angeles and in his trial he did a trial very interesting he he generates very high quality evidence took something like a 100 people with eral bow syndrome 100 people with fibromyalgia and 100 healthy controls and then test him for hydrogen gas production well the people with IBS uh 84% tested positive for sibo of the people with fibromyalgia 100% tested positive to a severe degree and I&#39;ve seen this play out in real life people have fibromyalgia we correct it we correct the disbiosis and the SEO and their fibromyalgia recedes isn&#39;t that incredible and it&#39;s so interesting because I feel like a lot of our society doesn&#39;t connect their gut health to all of these other symptoms that they&#39;re experiencing absolutely it could be cognitive impairment it could be Suicidal Thoughts it could be in so for me insomnia so one of the great effects of the roite for me is so I&#39;m a chronic Insomniac struggle to sleep have for decades and decades melatonin cryptanite I sleep all the way through deep sleep with Vivid childlike green by the way as an illustration just how powerful microbes can be I combined it with a microb called lactobacillus casii C SEI Shota it&#39;s a commercial product called yakul it&#39;s an awful product it&#39;s sugary skim milk so we take we take that sugary product and we ferment it as yogurt well when I did the combination of lactobacilus rorai and lacil KCI Shota I was sleeping a chronic Insomniac I was sleeping 12 hours a night or more I had to stop it the effect was so profound but it worked too well but sleep sleep&#39;s good sleep is also connected to the impairment in the perpetuation of that sio too right like it&#39;s all these co-actors like please everybody as you&#39;re listening to this I&#39;m kind of drooling if you can see me on you know because I&#39;m like Dr Davis keep talking like you&#39;re just preaching what what we love right like it&#39;s all full circle so you know a big sleep disruptor of course is inappropriate surges in in cortisol right so we&#39;re supposed to have a morning surge that helps you helps arouse you and a lot of people especially if they&#39;ve been exposed to stress have mistiming circadium drimis that is they they wake up at two or three in the in the morning they can&#39;t fall back asleep their heart&#39;s racing and so one thing I don&#39;t know how to do is to shift the timing but we can suppress the Surge and the two that are most affected to my knowledge are lact toil ruai lactobacilus gaseri have been shown good evidence to suppress that excessive cortisol Surge and I feel like we&#39;re going to sell out of uh rorai everywhere everyone everywhere is going to be going to buy rotor stocking up on it like it&#39;s toilet paper during Co and pretty much and uh I&#39;m I would love for you to answer this question because it&#39;s something that we talk about quite often with our own audience and our own clients is Will probiotics alone fix your gut No in fact it&#39;s the last item on the list because most probiotics are formulated like this they say okay this microb is in throw it in that microb has some throw it in they&#39;re halfhazard collections it&#39;s going to get better so one of the things that has not been done is to incorporate what are called a guild or Consortium effects all that means is putting together microbes that work together as a community so it&#39;s one of the reasons why if your mom gave you lactobacilus rorai at Birth and breastfeeding you&#39;d have it for a lifetime barring exposure antibiotics and other things but if you get it say as a probiotic or as a yogurt or whatever refermented food it takes up residents for a few days well why well probably because we didn&#39;t restore the entire community of microbes so the probiotic of the future will likely be something like this lact toils rotari with five other species or whatever that work together via metabolites so current products there&#39;s only one group of products from a company called biot quest uh biotti Quest and they do incorporate some effort at collaborative effects my friend Dr Reno is the formulator for those uh products uh and there&#39;s a lot of nonsense going on in the probiotic World some of it for competition it&#39;s it&#39;s a crowded world for instance some products will double encapsulate so that it&#39;s released into the colon now wait a minute if half the world has sio in the small intestine why would you delay release into the colon you want release into the small intestine and then of course sometimes the inclusion of microbes that don&#39;t do very much like lactobacilus acidophilus so there&#39;s a lot of issues with Pro it&#39;s going to get better but right now the when people want to reimplant healthy microbes first thing you do well first of all remove things that disrupt it stomach acid blocking drugs buy organic foods filter your drinking water um avoid processed foods with preservatives and emulsifying agents so all clean up your life and then plant seeds with fermented foods kimchi cfers yogurts yogurts that you make not the stuff in the store um veggies fermented on your kitchen counter for listeners who don&#39;t know how to do that it&#39;s very simple it&#39;s in the super gut book there&#39;s people like Donna schwank there&#39;s companies like cultures for health and Cutting Edge cultures you can buy starter cultures so easy to do and inexpensive yeah I I love that those are some really great and easy tips that people can absolutely do at home and you know what Katie it&#39;s one of the most powerful things people can do for skin Health they don&#39;t think of having kimchi or sourkraut for skin Health but what happens is you get the microbes of fermented foods these are species like Lucano or pedia cacus these are microbes that don&#39;t take up residence in the human GI tract you ingest them and they go from mouth to toilet but in their Passage through that the 30 feet of your GI track they feed act like little Farmers for beneficial microbes the ones that for instance produce butyrate the butyric acid for your skin and so the fermented foods one of the most important things uh people can do for skin health and appearance and it&#39;s incredible right is is simple things that you can be doing every single day it doesn&#39;t have to be these massive big crazy you know Trends and celery juicing and all these fads that you see on social media it can be these really really simple things so uh Dr Davis thank you you so incredibly much for joining us today uh my first tip for everybody is go and buy Super gut if you do not have Dr Davis&#39;s book yet Barnes &amp; Noble Indigo Amazon adcart you will love it now Dr Davis I would love if there was one parting thing that you would love for our audience to really take away what would that be don&#39;t make this tougher than it is it&#39;s really quite easy adding back fermented foods uh culturing or fermenting some of those important microbes like root gas I think it&#39;s not a stretch so we&#39;re talking about better GI Health we&#39;re talking about thicker smoother more youthful skin we&#39;re talking about a return of youthful musculature an increase in libido increase in testosterone for males a a improve reproductive health for for ladies um empathy generosity acceptance of other people&#39;s opinions reduction of social isolation reduction of social anxiety I mean this this is not just less bloting or less diarrhea or less constipation we&#39;re talking about I don&#39;t think it&#39;s a stretch to say this is lifechanging and it&#39;s easy and it does not have to involve the doctor or the hospital so we&#39;re saying sibo yogurt for World Peace that&#39;s going to be the new slogan of super gut everybody okay that&#39;s the next Edition that&#39;s yeah that&#39;s the revised W for it we&#39;re waiting for it good idea thanks so much Dr Davis we really appreciate you joining us today thank you Katie thank you Chris all right everybody that was another wonderful episode here on the clear skin Chronicles and we will see you next week thanks for hanging out with us this week on the clear skin Chronicles we&#39;ll see you next Wednesday with a brand new episode remember to subscribe to the show and drop us a review sending glowing vibes your way Katie and Chris [Music]

Transcript for:Clear Skin Chronicles with Dr. William Davis

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Clear Skin Chronicles with Dr. William Davis