you and I are picking up where we left off in our last podcast episode this is part two of that conversation I just love Dr Shaw she's here because she's breaking down the topic of gut health for you and me it's not about whether or not your pants fit this has so many larger implications for your overall health so let's talk about your 5day gut reset protocol hey what are we doing Dr Shaw hey it's your friend Mel and welcome to the Mel Robbins podcast I am so glad that you're here so thank you thank you thank you for being here and I know that you're not here because of me you're probably here because you want to know what is the 5-day reset plan for being bloated I want to know it too but I want to take a quick minute and just say thank you thank you thank you I know that you tune in because you are investing in yourself you're taking time to listen to something that's fun but that's also backed by research and Science and that can help you make your life better and you know what I'm really proud of you for that so well done well done and as you can tell I'm really excited today because you and I are picking up where we left off in our last podcast episode we were in the middle of having a conversation with the amazing Dr Amy Shaw she's been on the podcast a number of times she has three ivy league degrees she's a double board certified medical doctor she also graduated Magna Kum L from the prestigious Cornell School of nutrition you know what that means that meant she spends a lot more time studying than I did because I did not graduate with distinction like that and we're g to benefit from her I just love Dr Shaw she's here because she's breaking down the topic of gut health for you and me and in the first part of our conversation the background is this I had reached out to Dr Amy Shaw because the truth is I was so freaking bloated after being on a road trip for work that my favorite red pants were no longer fitting I looked like I was in the second trimester of pregnancy I was desperate I picked up the phone I called Dr Amy we taped the conversation this is part two of that conversation in case you haven't listened to the first episode you can catch that it's very easy to remember cuz it's the one right before this one and it's also episode 1 two 3 but just in case you haven't listened to it let me just summarize real quick what we've already learned from Dr Amy Shaw first of all bloating is normal and it is caused by having unhappy gut bacteria something I didn't know but I love how she explains it because I can visualize that she also said that bloating is caused by so many different things I mean it can be caused by stress by hormones it can be caused by eating things like cruciferous vegetables which I now know are broccoli cauliflower and things like sparkling drinks and gum and ibuprofen not to mention just eating and drinking too much over the holidays and you'll also remember that we talked at the very end of that episode about her 3F morning routine which is something she does every single morning it's fasting its Fitness and its fermented and fibrous Foods I got to talk to Dr Amy because that's like five FS that's not three FS but fasting Fitness and fermented and fibrous Foods that's where we left off and one final thing you and I learned about how the gut health and our overall health is connected to our Hormone Health so there was just so much to digest that about halfway through the conversation I was like uh let's just make this one episode because you and I are busy I don't have two to three hours to listen to a podcast episode and I know you don't either so I want this to be information you can absorb and then you can apply and if you want to listen to all of that just go back to the episode one 123 it's right there for you as a free resource but right now let's keep going we're going to dig into probiotics what is Dr Amy Shaw's opinion about probiotics do they work should you take them if you're not going to take probiotics how do you do that in a natural way how do you heal your microbiome if being bloated is a symptom that your gut health is unhappy how do you make it happy and of course we're going to get to my burning question which was Dr Amy sha my pants are not fitting I feel like I have a food baby can you please tell me what I need to do give me a fay gut reset woman come on now help a woman out what is the protocol that you recommend if you want to reset your gut health in 5 days flat and Dr Amy Shaw is going to deliver that 5-day program and protocol to you in this conversation so get ready get ready to drop back in with me and Dr Amy Shaw and I'm about to ask Dr Amy Shaw what is the connection between stress and God health so let's go hey it's your friend Mel I'm so excited that you're here and I wanted to make a quick ask before we jump into this incredible incredible episode of the Mel Robins podcast about the 5-day protocol for resetting your gut health with the amazing Dr Amy Shaw are YouTube channel literally lives or dies based on our subscribers and support from people like you and my goal is to get to 50% of the views of our Channel being by subscribers and right now believe it or not only 20% of the people that watch this channel are even subscribers it's free could you do me a favor because it really helps a show like ours out to just hit the Subscribe button that way you're never going to miss an episode you're supporting the show and you're giving something back to me as I am pouring so much into you thank you so much for that and let's go to the Mel Robins podcast how does stress cause bloating in your God God don't you realize that um the more I read about it the more I learn about stress because we didn't learn so much about it in medical school we thought of stress as kind of just a part of life right now we're realizing that it causes everything like literally can cause anything bad can come from stress when you're stressed you are in a emergency survival mode and people always equate it to kind of like you know you're getting chased by a tiger um and you don't really care about taking care of your gut you don't really care about uh balancing your hormones like you're focus on how do I survive in the next minute yes and unfortunately for us this is happening more and more our news media are designed to create a stress response the you know sitting in front of a computer all day and getting emails uh are designed to trigger the stress response uh social media is designed so we're living in this world that's actually trying to tap in to our stress response all the time and it's our responsibility to actually manage all that and put ourselves into an enjoyment into a relaxing State because everything else is designed to put us in a stress state which is going away from digestion moving away from hormone balance moving away from repair and just focusing on Surviving the next minute so are you saying that when you're on edge or you're stressed out that your nervous system interferes with your gut's ability to properly digest food and to stay in a balance in terms of your gut bacteria yeah I mean think about it when your body is focused on the task at hand say it's an emergency situation all of the blood flow is going to your brain away from your gut it's going to your big muscles right you're that's ready to run we're ready to and we notice it I don't know if you noticed it but your heart starts beating faster you got your blood starts flowing your eyes start to dilate because your body's ready um to fight whatever this thing is and a lot of times we're actively in that state and we have to work to take ourselves out of that State and really relax so that our digestion can work properly so that we can poop so we can you know eat food and not have acid reflux all of a sudden um those are all things that happen from being chronically stressed and like I said well it's not our fault we live in a world that's designed to keep us in the stressed State um because that's what gets your attention um if you open a headline and it immediately causes you to have fear and and stress you're going to pay attention to it right and spend more time clicking it and um so that's what works on social media or news media and so we're always and it's good to you know obviously know real live world events but it's also good to learn how to manage your body so that we can actually be in a state of rest and digest which is the opposite of that stress mode um you mentioned just there the um kind of acid reflux stuff can you just briefly explain how a state of being um bloated or inflamed or just living with really unhappy gut bacteria yeah what other issues can that create in your life beyond just feeling like you have a food baby and you're uncomfortable in your body oh God uh the the list is just endless we're learning now that breast cancer is related to gut microbiome we're learning so cancers um where heart disease uh uh depression I mean you name it and it is related to poor gut health so what I like to think about it is that it's not this brain um and it's not just gut it's this like brain gut AIS that's modulating our hormones our immune system and so all of the things that we want in our life like healthy aging come from improving that gut bacteria and the hormones that go with it because um we don't want to say anti-age right we want successful aging so it's like not just a bloating in the short term but we're talking you know do you want to live a long healthy life do you want to have um a happy life do you want to um you got to keep these bacteria happy um you got to keep them functioning they got to they have to be talking to your brain and saying we we're doing good here uh we're having a good time and that's when things feel really good in your body I'm glad that you said that because selfishly I reached out to you because my pants were tight and I felt like I had a food baby and I was really just uncomfortable and felt very gassy and I thought I'm not the only one that feels this way and I bet Dr Shaw can help me reset my gut but the fact that you put this in a larger context that gut health is mental health gut health is physical health and that we can't see what's going on in your gut but if you don't take your gut seriously and you don't learn how to make your gut bacteria happy it's not about whether or not your pants fit this has so many larger implications for your overall health and you know don't worry for for you if you tuned in because you want to hear the FED day reset for bloating we're getting there but I think it's important to elevate this too because you're saying that you have to pay attention to this if you want to live a long and healthy and vibrant life because your gut informs everything about your mood about the way your brain is functioning and you can start to literally heal from the inside out if you pay attention to this I mean that's basically what you're saying right absolutely no the sad thing is is that because this is so unknown to everybody like everyone listening right now is in on this right you're in on this I'm in on this everybody listening today but most of the world the developed world does not understand this and we are seeing one in seven people this year came it came out in a study one in seven people feel bloating at least once a week um we found out that 98% of people don't eat enough food for their gut bacteria which is fiber right like healthy food real vegetables and fruits you know two there's only 2% of Americans that are actually eating food that is keeping their gut bacteria happy like it's crazy and then um exercise we all know that exercise is an issue for all of modern the modern world so all this morning routine that we're talking about like the um you know the fasting the fitness and the food the fiber fermented food this itself h has the ability the potential to help you in so many more ways than just bloating it's um you know can make you happier help you successfully age help with your hormonal transition if you're in menopause or um pregnancy so there's so much potential out there you mentioned fiber as something that is really important for happy bacteria could you just give us a shorthand list because I'm sort of a you like I'm this is not my area of expertise so you say fiber you know what I hear I literally think about like um the kind the Mucinex crap you like stir into a drink but what do you mean when you say fiber and that we need more fiber in our diet whenever I say fibers everyone's always like oh like what brand of fiber and I'm like no I'm not talking about a brand I'm saying fiber so but it is hard to conceptualize so the best sources of say let's talk about non- bloating fiber okay fiber that you would eat when you're um trying to get over a say a week-long binge or vacation or whatever it is it's spinach leafy greens um are a great source of fiber berries are great source of fiber asparagus is a great source of fiber um uh spices they work like Prebiotic Fiers so these are um amazing things like turmeric and ginger and all of these uh Foods so uh also fruits and vegetables so the best fruits to have when you are bloated is bananas um really is avocado is a um pineapple papaya so pineapple and papaya have natural digestive enzymes in them so while they're going through our system they're they have natural like ways to break themselves down so it's really gentle on our gut um uh bananas are the same way they've been shown to actually help with bloating so and they all have fiber so they're like helping you in the short term with um with the bloat and then in the long term oh asparagus cucumbers uh celery those are all amazing things parsley cilantro like the herbs fiber and debloating all at the same time these are like the things you want to have when you're like okay I want to have more fiber but I want it to be gentle on my stomach and help me digest um have a big bowl of papaya pineapple um bananas and then have maybe some avocado have you could have like if you're not sensitive to bread you could have a sour dough with avocado on it because sourdough doesn't have as many of of the fruit Tans which are these um basically gas causing um sugars that your your gut uh can't digest as well in some people so having um an avocado Saro toast with some fruit on the side would be a great breakfast to have um some asparagus would be amazing to have these are really really also yogurt if you're not lactose intolerant like you said you love that yogurt I love probiotic yogurt and cottage cheese in the morning and even though I can't tolerate a lot of dairy that yogurt it's it's just my body loves that stuff so that's a great thing to have when you're trying to deow because yogurt as you know has some bacteria in it it's a probiotic food and it's going to be your um it's going to help you in this setting so let's talk about your 5day gut reset protocol what are we doing Dr so every day we're doing the three apps okay so every morning you're gonna wake up no matter what whether you're doing the gut reset protocol or not every day you're going to do the fasting the fitness and the fiber fermented foods that's uh without goes without saying okay when you start on the five-day reset the first day in addition to what you've already done in the morning you're going to add exercise and E it's the first e of the four different e that we're going to be doing and the last day we're going to add all of the um e together so it's like okay exercise is the first e okay and exercise for all the reasons we already talked about your gut bacteria get happy it's the best probiotic that you could ever do and when you start moving your body all of that distension starts to move because whether it's fluid whether it's a food baby whether it's you know stool in there whether it's um it just a lifetime of chronic overeating and making terrible choices or doing keg stands or going to 17 weddings this summer regardless of how you're coming to the table you're welcome and we're going to start this protocol by adding in exercise and does it matter what exercise you do during the 5-day reset no it doesn't matter just move your body because let's be honest any kind of exercise is good exercise now if you want to add in yoga because you get get the twisting amazing because we know that physically twisting your gut is going to help release some of that gas and some of that fluid retention and get things moving so I love things um like yoga um to add when you're exercising but walking more walking so say you walked in the morning walk in the evening again uh weight training you know as you know and I know we lose about one to three% of muscle mass Each decade as women and during menopause that speeds up to almost double and so getting that body moving lifting weights okay so exercise is number one okay day two day two eliminate e so the second e is eliminate so what that means is that food Elimination Diet we talked about you're going to start doing that so take out Dairy gluten white sugar whatever you think maybe triggering so so for some people that could be nuts for some people that can be shellfish some people it can be corn but usually it's gluten daring sugar if you're not sure just take those three out okay that's eliminate that's day that's day two okay day three day three you're gonna start eating Foods your gut bacteria loves the stuff we've already talked about the things that are going to help your body um you know recover from this uh crazy thing that you put your gut through so it's going to be that spinach that asparagus it's going to be that fruit uh that brolene from that pineapple that uh papaya that has a digestive enzymes in there that help you digest it so you're going to add Foods back that your gut bacteria love so yogurt is another one I have a question yeah what protein is better for your gut than other in terms of like types of meat or fish or beans or lentils like what is the the the kindest protein to make for a happy gut so if you're um not plant-based then egg protein is nicely digested by a lot of people you know doing an egg scramble or doing um fish uh is a good way to get your protein um but if you're plant-based then you could do beans but make sure they're uh soaked like Black beans soaked are really gentle on their stomach whereas certain beans that if you don't soak them um they're they can be gas producing um tofu is a nice thing to eat when you're trying to get that and of course like I said Yogurt probiotic yogurt and cottage cheese are awesome ways to get that Protein that's not necessarily meat but it's uh it's a dairy based high protein food uh that you can have and then of course nuts um although nuts aren't necessarily the biggest source of protein they do have some protein in them um and so having that protein but protein in general is a great great way to uh keep your gut bacteria happy and satisfied as well so that's a really the gut your gut loves protein what it doesn't love is fake protein do you know what I mean like those shakes bars and fake meats and like all the fake stuff like um when you have a protein shake I don't know about you but I immediately get bloated but my body does not like uh processed protein so the shakes and the bars and we all are busy I eat protein bars and shakes like we have to it's part of our busy lives but when you're trying to reset try to have the protein in its whole form because that's going to be the kindest thing that you can do to your body you don't want to exacerbate the issue now I noticed you didn't say locally raised Meats chicken lamb do you not would you not want to eat meat during this 5day period you you know the studies on meat have become very controversial as you know okay but a new study came out and this is becoming a really big thought it's that we used to think that meat in general was very inflammatory and that your gut was very inflamed with meat but there's new data that show that maybe it's not necessarily the meat itself maybe it's the type of meat that you're eating like it's a fast food meat versus meat so the meat story remains to be pieced out but if you're eating something that's super healthy locally raised you know not full of antibiotics not from you know your local fast food place this is going to be a nice source of protein and as I said our biggest goal is to make that gut bacteria happy and although fiber and fermented is the number one goal we said protein is also the goal and so getting that but it's a very Nuance conversation because you basically could argue still the bulk of the research still shows that um red meat or especially processed red meat is probably inflammatory to the gut and causes all kinds of issues but the St you know things are changing so I would say it's like a complicated answer if you enjoy it doing good for your body you're feeling healthy that's a great thing to um add to your diet okay I just want to recap for everybody so the five-day reset one of the things that you're doing is Dr Amy Shaw's morning routine which are the three fs and so you're going to do this every morning which is the 12-hour fast before you have your first meal it is the fitness and then it is a breakfast that includes some sort of fibrous and fermented food because that makes your gut bacteria happy day one you're going to add in exercise meaning in addition to the fitness walk in the morning you're going to add in a little yoga a little something else day two you're going to start an elimination of dairy gluten and white sugar day three you're going to be adding in and eating the kind of food that your gut bacteria loves which we're learning all about and what is the E that we add in on day four Dr I love this e because you're going to love it too it's the E is for enjoy so when we're in our stressed and um opposite of enjoyment right is when you're stressed and anxious you can't digest and you can't heal from what you've just what's just happened to your body and a lot of people they come back from a vacation or holidays and they're so stressed and they're punishing themselves by doing all these crazy diets and cleanses and exercises and it's making things worse you actually need to go back and enjoy spend time with people who are good for your mental health because they're also good for your gut health okay these gut bacteria just like we said we want to make them happy they are super happy when you're spending time with people who make you feel your best and it's so crazy to think but they love bonding bonding is a love language for your gut bacteria they love it so you want to enjoy yourself so it's spending time with people you love it's dancing it's uh you know doing something that lights your bra you know body on fire that's like so you're so passionate about enjoyment is like one of the things that people don't realize that can be so healing to our body not just our gut but our entire body got it okay what do we do day five we're putting it all together we're doing tell me what that means all of these so in the morning you're waking up you have you're checking if you fasted for 12 hours wait 12 hours before you eat your first meal then you're going for your Fitness um right after that then you're coming back and you're like oh time to eat you're gonna have you know a big Scramble with veggies yogurt and berries on the side and you're going to have your ginger tea uh because you're trying to eat the foods uh that are great for your body so high protein high fiber fermented food breakfast and then you are going to maybe go for a yoga class or do some stretching or um exercises um again later in the day that is going to help you you're going to be on this Elimination Diet Journey it's not one day you know you're not going to know what things you're um sensitive to our gut um our gut microbiome maybe doesn't even respond for a few days you'll have to do this extend this for as many as three weeks for some people to really find out what their true food sensitivities but at least one week you want to be doing um the elimination um and then you want to eat Foods all day that your body loves like this is not the time um to maybe have your artificially sweetened um you know snacks and uh chips and crackers and fast food this is time to eat really healthy Whole Foods maybe you'll have a spinach salad and you'll have um a bowl of fruit on the side these are uh that's your that's your eat and then do something you know bond with someone go out to for a walk with a friend go have coffee with um someone that you haven't seen in a long time a mentor friend a colleague your loved one uh spend time with your dog your baby um do something you love maybe you're doing some creative writing and that is like the perfect day at the very end and you that's like if you did all the things and you put it all into one day that would be the day now how long do I have to do this before I'm going to start to feel like uh the bloating is going down and my gut bacteria is happy and healthy again I'm so excited to tell you this because there's actually research behind this it's as little as three days three days you could start feeling on day three you could start feeling like wow I you know what my mood is better my bloating feels better my Cravings are gone and then after you know it keeps going it's just starts at three days but in two weeks you should be marketly better um so I love saying three days because to me three days feel so doable and it's backed by science we saw a study where they took people and they rapidly changed their diet and they said okay we're going to rapidly change your diet from a fast food crazy processed diet um to the super healthy gut loving diet and we're going to see how long it takes for your gut microbiome to completely transform and they expect it two weeks and they saw it in three days I'm so happy you said that because this conversation is going to release during the holidays and I don't know about you listening but I freaking love the holiday food and particularly here in the US the Thanksgiving fair I have four or five helpings of the turkey with the stuffing and the mashed potato and this Cran very Jello thing that we've always made in my family and I just love it and then I love the leftovers and I think what happens for me is I do feel like I have a food baby and I feel discouraged and so I do these extreme things and then they don't really work and then I feel more discouraged and so hearing that you can leverage science and you can follow this reset and you can understand the greater context of this and if you simply stick with with it for these 3 to 5 days you'll likely start to feel better because you're using the science of all of this that makes me feel more motivated honestly because often times yeah because I you know like I felt after this week where the pants started out fitting at the beginning of the week and at the end of the week I kid you not I could not even button these pants and the pictures I L I do look like I am in my second trimester of pregnancy in these pants and I felt like I was and so I felt really discouraged because I thought what is going on is this me menopause is it stress is it travel is it is it what is it it's probably all of those things but I now feel very empowered because this is something I can do and when you tell me that there is research that says within 3 days the studies show that you'll start to feel feel better if you follow this obviously I can't you know be Downing a bottle of Jim Beam on top of this or you know may like I I got to really pay attention to all the things that you're talking about can't be taking Advil first thing in the morning while I'm doing my fast I like this makes sense to me one thing that you didn't mention was taking a probiotic yeah do you recommend that people take probiotics like what do you what's your and I realize that not all probiotics biotics are created equally but does taking a probiotic help if you're bloated yeah I mean okay this is how I would think of it in um our species in our gut is like the Amazon jungle there's like thousands of different you know hundreds if not thousands of different species in there and probotics of of of bacteria yeah so a prob probiotic the same thing as a bacteria yeah so it's a probiotic is bacteria that you take by mouth right so okay a probiotic might have um say hundreds of streams right but that's not even close to how many different uh different types of bacteria are in your gut so what the problem with probiotics today is that if you threw seeds from a plane into a Barren land right you just through them not knowing what climate you were in not knowing what the local kind of uh weather soil was like you know some seedlings may come out of it you know if you got lucky but you don't know what you're doing you're just throwing things at the wall and hoping something sticks right so the difference is when you eat Probiotic foods like yogurt like cotage cheese like kimchi and sauerkraut the the bacteria come in a food Matrix and they're delivered to your um bacteria that already live there like hey look I brought you some friends and then for some reason our body is just more likely to incorporate those guys into our existing ecosystem than they are when you throw a whole bunch of pills into your body that makes a lot of sense and so I just want to make sure that you listening are tracking with me and Dr Shaw so I want to ask a couple questions yeah so are you saying that probiotic food based on the research is a more effective way yes to put healthy bacteria and to get your gut health in order more healthy and effective than taking an oral probiotic absolutely when we get to the place where I can say Mel let me see the organisms that are in your gut right now and let me produce a cocktail that's going to be complimentary to them and then you're going to be like oh yeah yeah this this definitely works and that's why fecal transplants work so well feal trans what the hell is that so the best transplants so the best way I'm just trying to get rid of the the food baby I have from Thanksgiving I don't know if I need a feal trans you know we're talking about delivery of bacteria right so you can deliver them through a probiotic y you can deliver it in a food Matrix like you know here serve it on a platter through a food Matrix so you're eating sauerkraut and the bacteria are kind of in that Matrix of the food makes sense or you deliver it like straight up poop from someone else that already has that um it's like from somebody else yeah it's called a feal transplant e do you have to eat the poop like what you placed there through colonoscopy it is Curative for so many diseases because it's the best way you should see everybody facial expressions but no think about it I mean I know it sounds gross but you don't have to eat it you can have it um say okay say it's your husband I know your husband okay I know he's a super healthy guy yes he's a very super healthy guy say and you're like you know what I am so sick and tired like I say you want his motivation like it's crazy but it also athletic performance uh mood all of this stuff can be uh transplanted through the gut so there is a theory and it's already been seen in some diseases that you take a family memb or someone that's really healthy doesn't have diseases and you take their feces their poop you get it transplanted and placed into your colon through a colonoscopy okay and you let it sit there so it can kind of like it's like adding soil you know you let it kind of f like sit there let it get Incorporated it can cure diseases like we already know we can we think it may be able to cure depression it may be able to heal ADHD it may be able to um stop cancer I mean there's like the potential for the fecal transplant is insane there's actually so I'll give you that I'll give you that I will give you that I can wrap my brain around that and I remember it may be something that you shared on one of the other episodes that you were on that there was a stu done I think on rats yeah what they did is they took the patients who had schizophrenia and they took their gut bacteria and they put it into mice that didn't have their own gut bacteria so that they could see what happens when we don't change anything in at the animal's brain we just give them the gut bacteria and they exhibited the change in mental health so yeah you're you understand that that potential is there so when you ask me what's the best way to get bacteria into your gun um and I'm like okay probiotics is a c uh you know food-based Probiotic foods is a b and the a is actually getting bacteria from another human what you're basically saying is that the healthiest way to get a sample of live healthy gut bacteria is when that live healthy gut bacteria moves from the stomach down the intestines and out somebody through the colon and so we obviously know that's fecal matter but inside that is live healthy bacteria and a healthy person and what you're saying in terms of the emerging science is that that source of live healthy bacteria even if it's encased in something we all think is disgusting that is actually the most effective way to help somebody else grow and I would imagine as the technology emerges especially with all this research that's showing over and over and over again how effective it can be in the positive or the negative to transfer healthy gut bacteria from one person or species to another that they will figure out a delivery mechanism for that that doesn't sound disgusting but that I hear you in that it is wildly effective you know that and to add on that um you know one of the other ways to get heal heal bacteria from other humans you you broke it down so so nicely um because the best way to get healthy good gut bacteria is from other humans um it's just by spending time with other humans that you want to be like wait a minute so am I catching Chris's bacteria if I kiss him am I gonna catch his bacteria you share food with him you um hug him kiss him you are um basically more like Chris gut microbiome than your identical twin sister if you ever had one really yeah for identical twins that are separated at Birth their microbiomes look closer to the people that they live with or their significant others than each other and when you want to be more like someone you want the athletic prowess you want to be as happy you want to be as successful as they say you know the people you spend your time with you become like when you look at it through this gut bacteria lens that actually is happening that's fascinating all right well more importantly we now know regardless of what is causing you bloat and how you got to this conversation we now know a 5-day science back protocol by the absolutely extraordinary Dr Amy Shaw I want to thank you so much for being here with us I'm so grateful to you and the team and I'm um happy to be on here to talk about maybe the most important part of Health that you know we don't ever talk about is this whole world of the gut brain hormone connection it can make us happier it can help us AG successfully it can make us better people in general and I think it's something that everybody needs to hear I just love Dr Shaw every time I talk to her I feel smarter and the other thing that I love about her is she does doesn't talk down to you we just learned so much that was a gold mine I mean you know exactly what to do and of course you have to decide whether or not it's something that fits for you and your lifestyle and your health but she just gave you the research and she walked you through step by step by step based on the research and her expertise what you could do to not only fight the bloat but more importantly take control of your gut health and as she explained in the very beginning your gut health and happy gut bacteria means a happy you and I want that for you you want to know why I'll tell you why because I love you that's right in case nobody else tells you today I'm going to remind you that I love you that's why I show up here twice a week to be with you and I also believe in you and I believe in your ability to take the information that you're learning when you listen and apply what you feel is right to your life so you can create a better life all right I got a a re set to go do I got to find some fibrous Foods you know I'm going to go eat a banana and some blueberries and uh there we go I'll talk to you in a few days thank you thank you thank you for being here on YouTube with me thank you for subscribing and sharing the episodes that you love and now here's an episode I love you got to go and watch the first part of this conversation episode one two three with Dr Amazing Amy Sha