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The Journey of a Young Builder

I didn't ask my parents for money because they would be like why why are you not studying so I would play pubg and Minecraft all day like 16 hours a day coaching classes did not care about you yeah absolutely not half of the teachers just gave up in 12th I got 69% they show those white heart junior ads likeing I counted the number of projects I made in 2023 it was like five people reached out to me do you want funding yeah today with me I have a 18-year-old who did his 12th from India and then he came to San Francisco and today we're going to understand his entire Journey how did he get here why did he get here in the first place and what is the future like bro thank you so much for joining first of all introduce yourself to the people who are watching yep um thanks for inviting me so I'm dvia I am just a builder at heart I love making products um I do like everything related to products like front and back end design everything um and basically yeah that's basically it about me I have um I was very lucky to be able to sell two of my ventures in India and um to sell yeah and I've have built a lot of companies some of them got millions of users um and yeah so that's about it and now I'm building an AI app bro there's so much to break down I want to so you are 18 right now and you're from Malad Mumbai he told me before he was starting to record U and that's also where I used to live in Charco but uh tell me why are you here what what are you doing here in the US in the in the US in San Francisco you you're wearing the build space hoodie yeah so in the US I'm here to study wink wink um and honestly just to build um I love meeting people like you like stuff like I have in the last 4 days the number of people I've met has been crazy and it's just been four days here in San Francisco which is um something like if you if you are a product Builder if you building your own startup you need to be an SF so that's why I'm here what is a product builder for someone who's who's like in college or even like before College in school they're in 11th and 12th and they're preparing for itj exam uh what is this idea and how did you learn about this um honestly it is all about you know they show those white heart junior ads likeing um it's basically that but you do that with your own passion with your own drive with your own energy and then you try to get users you try to tell your story to the people and that's what it's all about like people comp licated way too much people um like all you need to do is make like a very shitty app and tell people about it and then make a less shittier version of that and keep doing that till you get to a version that is shitty enough for you to handle brilliant but like going back to the point how did you learn about right you learned so you are a developer and you also Market your own products right so you're sort of like a hacker yeah how did you learn all this and when did you start learning about all of it um so I was okay I'll just start my own entire story then so basically it was Co and during Co I was playing I was like one of those kids who had an iPad and you know uh since a very young age so I was a lot into games so I would play pubg and Minecraft all day like 16 hours a day that's all I would do after waking up before sleeping literally and halfway through the pandemic I was like damn yeah I I should do something like something better with your life something better with my life um and at the same time like online classes had like started again and my parents gave me a laptop and when I did get my laptop like the first thing I did was download Minecraft and play a little bit Minecraft but the second thing I did was like scrolling through YouTube I found this video like python course for beginners what what channel was that I think it was programming with mosh oh yeah the Bal guy the bald guy yeah Y and I just did I just went through that entire course so there's like two three courses of his one is like so it's a very small video it's like six or 7 hours video but the actual course takes like very long because there's uh stuff in between and I just did the entire thing in one setting um that was that was one hell of a day because um I that entire night I was learning python what what date or month is that year this was August 2022 I think yeah August 2022 so that's when I started programming like actually at the same time I was watching and you liked it and I loved it yeah because um I always been all about like you know I have been in a lot of communities I have built communities before this before programming I have been into art origami so I just loved like making stuff and showing it to people and when I told like in the morning morning I was like drinking tea with my mom and I told my mom like hey I learned to code all night and now I can I made this this this as like side projects because like the tutorial has some basically small projects so Mom was like oh my God so I have this problem that I'm doing the same calculation again and again and again and can you fix it for me so I made this very simple calculator app using Python and she loved it so I kept making small very small simple projects I started writing blogs about them the blogs got no traction nothing but it was nice because I felt like I was actually doing something and I was actually feeling like oh my God this is so cool my files are automatically getting organized and you were in Mumbai back then I was in Mumbai yeah um and I was also studying for JE I was supposed to be studying for J I was not actually studying for J um but it was like Co and you know I had no option but like all the classes were are honestly so shitty they don't care about you so I also didn't care about my own J you're talking about the school classes coaching classes coaching classes coaching classes did not care about you yeah absolutely not like half of the teachers just gave up I was studying I was a lot into Math and Science a lot like I had my own community of uh Math and Science Enthusiast in Mumbai and everything but still like I just gave up on studies back then so but did you want to get into an I I did of of course I actually watched people like you and like I watched videos a lot of videos online back then and it was like I had this dream of oh my God I can actually make into it into IIT because I got 96% intent I I was good at studies um but then in 12th I got 69% so it all turned around uh you got 69% yeah oh wow crazy and then actually so before this like before my 12th exam um huge story so I actually started building a lot of these projects and one of them was a Twitter bot and one of them was a Discord bot and the Discord bot was just me and my friends like as I said I had some online communities as well and in real life so um the friends were like hey we should make a Discord bot for the server so I did and that did so well because back then chart Bots were not a big thing but my Discord bot had a chart bot so it got like it loaded and it was in a lot of servers um and more than 200,000 how did you build it what did you use to build it there was this API called like brain something a I don't even remember but um this was like I had this like Fascination for AI before it blew up I was like one of the first users of gpt2 because one of my friends told me about it he's also a builder so we both used the gpd2 playground which was not even like known back then um so this is when the GitHub co-pilot first came up no Co yeah like when CH GPD was not a thing people were not talking about AI the the craziest AI thing was like image detection um back then so that was just 2 and a half years ago but it's crazy how much has happened since then exponential growth so my Discord B blew up and to host that Discord bot I actually reached out I didn't ask my parents for money because they would be like why why are you not studying supposed to beting but were they supportive in you doing they were supportive I mean they didn't really know that I was how much I was coding but they knew I was scoring I don't think if they would know they would be fine with it um that's completely fine understandable I was I didn't have like a route to go back then yeah um at the same time uh okay I reached out to this guy in us and he was he had his own server where I could like host stuff I was like holy and I host my Discord bot on your server that would be super duper cool and um I ended up like hosting my bot on a server and then I made this software that could that can like break a server down like 100 different pieces and then we made a bought hosting company so wow um so you first had a Discord bot and then you built a company to host these Bots yeah because I could be any any bot that people could be yeah mainly because people like me had no way of doing it back then and all this you 12th grade yeah 11th grade back then so while that was happening it was called epic host and while that was happening I also made a Twitter bot which I hosted on uh this hosting platform that I made uh it was like a completely free I was not making any revenue from it um but tell me what were your sources to learn all of this like like if someone is watching this video they'll just be clueless how do you teach yourself all of that what resources things that you so I was very active online I I was in a very good community of friends and all of those friends also started programming exactly at the same time at the same time I have been into reading and I don't have the patience to watch through huge videos but I can't do it um so what I would do is like to learn a concept once I have the base set I would just read uh people have always have some blog something is there about the thing unless there's no other option then I go back to the video because if you just keep watching videos you are in like a tutorial hell you cannot do anything after that um to tter but isn't it just easier to just watch tutorials you build Instagram clone here you build Netflix if you make if you keep making clones sure you will do something but you will not be able to explore and have your own opinions um you'll not think rationally you'll only be like this guy has used mongod DV to build this so you will never even like you will never even look into you won't question it why can't I use like a different database exactly so if you read so I had like while I was making the Discord B like I had to rewrite it like 20 times and that's completely fine first it was just a Json file that I would like send to a Discord server and then download it whenever like send every 10 minutes as a backup and downloaded the latest one as a database um but Jon F doesn't work at that scale so I had an SQ light then I had my then I had a TV and then I had a mySQL database youa have like why the exact technical decisions I made to do that I wrote it down amazing blogs honestly I'm so proud of that can you name some of them um the blogs yeah space board 6 rewrite um 1 2 3 so that's like three big ones that so these blogs actually helped you learn about logic I wrote those blogs you wrote those blogs yeah I learned them I don't know honestly where I learned them probably through like people were telling me that mongod and in these blogs you basically taught like how how did you build this and everything yes yes every every small thing like how I handle errors how I log stuff um when it blew up I had to find a way to sh the databases and then one time like YouTube sent me a season de like they sent me a very scary legal document saying you cannot stream YouTube music on your Bot because a lot of people were using it um it was getting bad so I had to discontinue the Discord B it was getting really bad um Meanwhile my Twitter bot U I made a Twitter bot as well very very normal okay Twitter bot was literally all about there's a tweet that someone wrote and then if you want a screenshot of that tweet in like a very nice design so that you can cross post it you can just tag the bot and it'll give you you know poet doso yeah poet doso yeah so my bot was called poet this um and it shut down PO is not working anymore know for some reason yeah because Twitter Twitter API changed up yeah yeah so that also affected me actually so I at the same time I built this thing called shutter. which was um which was like P.O but with a lot of automation stuff so whenever you tweet you can have your own design and everything and what was the motive behind building all of these things just I wanted them so I was making a lot of Twitter automation stuff because I was new to Twitter I had like this Banner changer and um I had this Instagram account where I would post memes and a lot of memes would be tweets so that's why it made it made it easy for me I didn't want to go to PO and again and again and then I I didn't have my own custom designs there um all of those things so because po has like one single design and that's it um so I in this Discord B like basically Twitter bought to solve my problem it blew up when I one time like just comment I just used my own bot under an Elon Musk post and Elon mus liked that tweet oh and so it showed up at like very top because he liked it so he was like uh she like a lot of people started using the board under theirown tweet and then it was like a network effect because I remember back then we were on a vacation and um I was completely offline I was on a cruise Gilla cruises um it was very nice um and when I came back it was like crazy um millions and millions of view views like likes every single tweet made had like a million views um which was absolutely crazy Impressions you're talking Impressions and The Bard G to 50,000 followers in like 3 months and it was um every single time so my basically like Mark Zuckerberg from The Social Network movie just just blocking everything out make face smash.com um my first blog was like can we get a Twitter bot so back then I had 100 followers for myself can we get a Twitter bot from 0 to 1,000 followers in 1 month and I just blew past that I had like five no not 5,000 like 1,500 2,000 something um got to 50,000 followers a lot of traction very crazy everything amazing um then Elon Musk like there were talks of Elon must buying Twitter and there were talks of the Twitter API becoming paid I was like paid $100 $200 so and I could not ask money from my parents again like could be I still don't have any direction of what I want to do with my life like I'm still not studying so I could not ask my parents for money but I launched on product hunt and in that product hunt launch the last line was he this bought might not uh be alive after the Twitter API changes so just I just launched on prodct that was it so five people reached out to me do you want funding yeah so one of them was like a head of security at Microsoft Michael year and how much did they fund you um he gave me like $5,000 um like just take care just keep building yeah wow $5,000 that's like what three and a half like three and a half lakhs and me that was like crazy I cannot I can feel less sad about me not studying at least tution of uh the classes the coing you are going to coaching classes you're just building these BS and you're putting it out and you're launching on ph yeah like how are you able to do all this um I was still studying but I was not studying as much I was supposed to um and I didn't have that many friends I have like this very small friend circle of you know the people I met in school that's it so that's it that was all my social interaction back then so it was pretty easy honestly like a lot of people watch YouTube a lot of people like Instagram me I found like I got addicted to like numbers of people using my product but why do you think that is because every day I would wake up and I would have like 5,000 people like have used my product 50 of them have dm' me dude this thing is amazing and I'm running I'm doing this using what you made it was pretty amazing and on it could fill you up with excitement you know I relate with you because this is the exact same thing which happened with me on YouTube so I would wake up and I would see views it's like even though it might seem very less like in the world of S Joi and Mr Beast and K minti but I I didn't have any friends actually because I moved so much in my in my school time but 50 people watch my video like I was I would actually imagine 50 people sitting in a room and watching a video of mine yeah crazy so yeah continue with that um and then epic host was also on a very unstable position because it was the first month user and at this point on Epic Horse we had four different servers all around the world um you say so me and Ryan so we reached out to a guy in India a guy in like uh Australia a guy in Europe so we had India Australia Europe and us four servers on four different corners of the world and our like our bought hosting was like crazy like a lot of people were using it we had a PID tier as well for VPS virtual private server um our open source project blew up toact it was going great automatically just organic viral yeah were you on Twitter back then no I was but I had like 200 followers or something so it was like nothing um and it was like amazing host with epic host in in the profile and one person would find out again it was a network effect because I was building on platforms right so whenever someone would use like um would be like hey how do you host your discard B like they would be oh epic host free so and then whenever anyone's Discord Bo grew to like um 100 m 250 whenever someone's Discord grew they would like pay $3 a month or $5 a month depending on what they want oh wow they making money from that as well not much I made like $2,000 Max from every host um but I had Partners we had to pay for servers electricity everything but even then profit it was nice it was like a very hard business to run uh then I had my coming up so I was like this is 2023 yeah yeah um I was like dude there's no way um at the same time Ryan G was coming up and like both of us were co-founders both of us time so we gave Ryan is your same age yes he was 16 at the time so he was 16 yes G I think after 10th or something for getting into high school okay um or he started school early I don't remember and so we gave the hosting to the management moderators and everything and they it all up they deleted the Discord server there was a lot of problems going on okay um and so we were like we'll just stop it and at the same time we had some acquisition offers so we went with one of them so uh cold sh hosing go we s sold it for um I didn't own anything off of it like $400 $500 or something but we sold for around $8,000 $8,000 you sold it for yeah and epic host epic host and um and why did they want to buy how did they discover about it we were just very famous back then for Discord bought hosting and a lot of Hosting providers wanted to get into this thing famous on Twitter on Discord on Discord itself yeah a Discord server had a lot of people like 7,000 8,000 people it was very big um and we were like the only people in this particular Niche he come host your Discord Bard like you know a lot of people make hosting providers like Docker hosting people Google Discord board hosting free so that's why a lot of people wanted to buy us and we sold to Cold Shot hosting so I you just made $400 yeah because we had to pay we have to sell we have to give those server ownership to cold hosting so we have to send those servers and send the server like actually physically send the servers a physical server yeah because they had a user stuff in it as I said Australia India yeah it was um and there was like a lot of things that happened and then we had like a lot of people J that asked for refunds because they were not happy with the acquisition they like like because we were also like a support company like we would teach people how to make Discord boards um stuff like that then we sold itam uh um for two months and then musk actually bought Twitter and I Rose to 75,000 followers and still going very great um and I got my first bill it was $43,000 for that one month because I was on the Enterprise plan of of Twitter oh the Twitter API you're talking about yeah so you $43,000 yeah there was no way I'm doing that that is how much Rupees 35 lakh rupees 35 lakh rupees yeah oh how did you pay for that I did not um so as soon as I got that I was like bambooz I was like dude there's no way um yeah I was like bambooz so luckily I was in this uh slack channel of Twitter makers so which had really big companies of people building on top of the Twitter API like they were making millions of dollars of Revenue a month I just sent a message sh. which was the platform the automation platform um my image generator and my image generator was like amazing so it had it it was like made with rust and it was like on the edge um 200 Mills generate uh throughput of 2,000 request per second it was easily handling it was crazy so Channel and three people four people wanted to buy so I by my entire thing so my Twitter bot my tech and my platform which is short. so you you first had epic host and now you had the sh. yeah right and tweets. Beauty so tweets. beauty is still online I think and all of these have just free users like they've not paid yet yes everything is free because it's like zero because I had like a lot of experience in like hosting and stuff like that so experience so um like I kind of just ping ponged the offers like between all these four people because everyone was competitor right and why did they want to buy because 75,000 users free this huge Twitter board that everyone knows about who's active on Twitter this amazing Tech so they want really wanted to buy and it was like a gold rush I had to sell and they thought that and there was there was a lot of people selling back then and they thought that because I had other offers so and like they were like because they want to their competitor to die of the API changes yeah um and look who who are these people where are they living what there was a French company called hype Fury uh us company called tweet Hunter there was like I think I used tweet hunter huh I used tweet Hunter y yeah you Ed tweet Hunter so yeah so I so tweet Hunter and epic host and black magic so there were these three companies that really wanted to buy so and I sold for a really good amount was really good amount so then I was like this was in in like December end um January February March so February my exam but at the same time someone brought up ke um I couldn't even think in that direction only had the huh and also this acquisition money now the new acquisition money which you're not telling yeah um okay so uh it was not that much but it was enough to like pay for college for like one year one and a half year in us right so um I so I asked my brother I asked my dad like what do I do and this was just yours to you like exactly completely and I was working at HP Fury for the remaining four months with very high pay because I was like working on adding my tech to their existing platform um to both I I was like okay now I have to figure something out so my mom was like let's go to a coun and let's see if you can go to us for studies but it was too late for me still I had had given um but like start preparation and deadline so I was like there's like five of them and I apply to all five of them um ASU is actually a very good University that everyone gets in but um I got in um and yeah like that's basically how I came to the us so you got into you and they don't require for you to you know do the SAT exam you just applied and you got in you paid them the money yeah and and also one of the less expensive universities which is good cool yeah and then and then when when did you come here in us to us um August actually August of last year exactly exactly yesterday oh my God that's crazy yeah so yeah in us because um I was still making videos right and one of videos for for my Instagram like all this while I start videos in um I think October of 2022 so about about this random stuff like I was making this random app called timely uh with one of my friends so me and my friend would just go on a walk om we would just go on a walk and YouTube video we make Instagram videos we literally start on the foot path we made an account we started recording right there right uh first few videos did very well um very very well that was nice to um I got like 20,000 25,000 followers there now back then 5,000 on Instagram on Instagram yeah and and you would just talk about about stuff I'm building that's it documenting your journey yeah brilliant I would build a lot of random stuff like I would just not stop making random stuff it was a bad thing but I would just not stop like every week I was making something um even like I counted the number of projects I made in 2023 it was like 73 so you made 73 different projects big or small in 2023 yeah and 12 of them were pretty big actually um so you're saying like you were making more than one every week yeah wow um I don't know scratch yeah and so I so one random day I created like a very random app called dumb. place it was like a place to dump your thoughts right very simple you know ke it's like an iOS shortcut as a touch input box you write something that's it um and someone I tweeted about it is the app it was an iOS shortcut so iOS shortcut I'll show you it was like like this oh yeah that's it and how did you get that just touch on the icon yeah that's it wow um very simple but people like oh this is really nice because I can do it through an iOS shortcut um someone got and a lot of people started started using it someone got jealous and they dosed it um watching is um an attack where a server is getting way too many requests from a lot of random IP address you build this using Swift uh no that is just an apple that that's no code that is no code yeah okay um I made like a lot of I shortcut things like I made a siries GPT when open came out like charb API came out so I made this iOS shortcut that also did very well that was my first paid product and I made my first dollar like AB it is in apple intelligence right yes yes but you build it even before they launched it yes um like I remember there was one the first person who bought it had a mac.com domain so he worked at Apple and I actually emailed him he was like really nice but you know it is not that good I was like um he saying is not that good yeah I don't think but a lot of people liked it uh but how did you build that also shortcuts yeah it's no code actually you can do it without any code it's crazy just on the shortcuts app yeah right um and you charged for that yes I've charged like $7 a month like some people bought it it was pretty nice um that was the first paid product in the sense that and launch like on Twitter on product hunt and Twitter okay got it um went well um back to dumb dot place so it got attacked uh DS is like a rapid attack of a lot of requests coming through and I made videos about it like how I solve solve the attack right um all three of those videos did well and I I was genuinely clueless and everyone I would ask was genuinely clueless of what's happening because I asked verel CEO he was like dude someone really hates your app this is 400 different IP addresses 4 million requests an hour it's crazy um so um then I spoke to some people at Cloud flare because I was already using their service their Doos Protection Service email um yeah I emailed them and they were like this is very odd we we will look into it and then this time you are in ASU yes uh this was last December okay and I made this small script that can automatically balance um like that can automatically block requests based on a machine learning algorithm you particular ASN Network providers reest particular um country request so based on all those factors it would block request it it it did very well I made a video about that too um cloud FL was like holy they sent me a lot of merch verel sent me a lot of merch um and I was just getting merch from a lot of different but apparently I like that was a really big problem to solve so then Cloud FL sent me an internship offer um Sam I had no interview nothing it was very nice um and I was working in AI um this summer so that's what that was going on you working in in AI stuff so Cloud flare has their own AI inference service called Cloud flare it's like completely free inference I'm a lot into free and open source projects um I love open everything is on GitHub so people can just go on your profile and just see what all you have build exactly can then you can even use it like use it do whatever I don't um even super memory that I'm building right now is what tell me about that so super memory is an AI tool that can um take all your bookmarks from wherever you you have been saving it and have like a an AI search on it and a recommendation engine on it so you know how Google photos does for photos for bookmarks and notes that you have written and and was this an extension of dum. place it was an extension of naughty which is a power no taking up I made dumb do place which was naughty together um it was a notion clone but with AI before noce existed so um so you're just building stuff even before these companies launch it yeah yeah um and I had like a lot of experience with AI because I was one of the contributors to embed chain. a I I'm actually so embed chain turned into m zero um so back to Super memory um um uh it's basically like a note taking app problem I had saved notes on Pinterest bookmarks and notes on Pinterest Apple notes Twitter bookmarks um Chrome bookmarks notion pages so I was like um it was a twood day hakon project that me and y y is actually crazy uh he's a 13-year-old um in India and he doesn't have his own laptop proper laptop nothing and he was building with me uh this was last year with you yeah simple wow and how did you meet him on my Discord Community I have a lot of crazy people on my Discord Community um to yeah um yush and me built a very small version of this in two days and we launched it as an open source project in just two days it just blew up like it blew up um on GitHub it got like 2,000 stars in a day which and it was on trending um like it it was the first project that had actual explosive growth because I was solving an actual problem for everyone so I was like this is this is it and I did not do that um unfortunately I was not able to do that like last week like 4 days ago I launched another product and 8 days ago I launched another product so I'm still shipping products but super memory is like my number one goal um that's what I'm doing this is insane though even to how many users have signed up on super memory um 18,000 users and 7.5 th000 daily active users 7 and a half thousand daily active users yes that is pretty my database gets 300 million reads and like um 20 million rights every week it is crazy uh um it's like still it's amazing Tech and everything everything is free everything is free for everyone and I just pay $5 a month for it you paay to who Cloud flare and AI providers insane bro yeah so and and you are here living with who what are you doing here why did you come here from ASU to here so I'm just here to like you know meet people like you and um experience San Francisco I have been in San Francisco like four times already but every time I was here for some conference or something or like to give a talk or something like that but what is special about SF a lot of people are building here man this is like everyone is making something and that's all that matters because like if you if you know about me now you know that the only reason I'm here is because I was around people who are also building like my Discord community and then the IRL community that I had um all of those so so that's why I still want to be around people who build and this is the perfect place to be that's why and I'm staying with um people at mz. which is a YC company um they are embed chain this contributor they were like very good friends of mine now funny St I made a video about embed chain a year a year and a half ago um and now I'm living with them which is absolutely mindboggling that was my first AI experience like so so you don't have to pay for rent you can just stay at their place yeah and uh you are here for how long I am here for 15 20 days like and then you go back to ASU yeah as a student yeah as a student and a builder pretty crazy so you you won the S5 which happened in build space to people who are watching this and I have no idea what is build space exactly what is nights and weekend what is S5 um who's farza give like a background on this so that they can understand yeah so as I said um being being with people who are building is the most special thing that you can do for yourself and build space is a company that's nothing but people who are building stuff building stuff on nights and weekends so V program nights and weekends which means but at nights and weekends build something so it's like a six week competition SL cohort SL whatever and every week you have like one simple goal first week I come up with a good idea like and condense it to one single line second week is get users um like no make a very shitty version of your app like a very minimum minimum viable product and they call it a toy a toy version of your idea then 10 get 10 people to be interested in it then uh make a better version of your app with their feedback and then get to more people and Market it so this is essentially the same Loop that I did but in like a systematic way um and I did the same for super memory it's only been like 6 weeks it's I've been seriously making it and already have so much traction because I followed that one simple Loop this is insane so so so you're saying that build space is basically empowering people to build and to promote this idea of hacking yeah right uh but tell me what is the importance of this for someone who's a 18y old 20 year old in college in school who wants to get like a placement who is in in that mindset you know D and then plac and all why should they care about this yeah so how I think about it is the conventional rout you will be fine um if you learn DSA very well you'll get a high paying job why don't you do that yeah you will be fine because but you will only be fine till the moderate level of person you know you'll be an an above average normal person but to get to the exceptional person you have to also be an entrepreneur you have to be uh not making clones of apps but you have to make stuff that you actually want people to use um that's what matters and like when you build um and that's why building is and like your own ideas is very important because people always ask the question how do you come up with ideas because a lot of people cannot come up with ideas because they don't think that making this is even possible like I made this um like one of my products was an AUD audio based Twitter so um and then like a lot of people started doing that and you can just think of ideas right it's like very simple stuff you can just take an existing thing and make a bot on it um thousand things that can save solve your problems and that can solve others problems just build them and uh that's why like if you if you become an entrepreneur if you start hacking every single employer actually wants people who who are entrepreneurs themselves who um there's this term called entrepreneurship like entrepreneurship inside a company and every entrepreneur is paid like hell like they are they are always the managers and you know the higher level Executives of of things you can like rise up to that but it'll take a while if you just want to go there just build your own ideas get good at stuff you're doing and that's it insightful so I I wanted to ask you that now that you are here now that you've built all of this what is it that you have in the future in your mind number one and number two what is like the main skill set that you have that you think everyone should learn you also very active on Twitter so I wanted to understand why did you choose Twitter out of all the platforms and what advantages has Twitter brought to you in terms of connection offers users so tell me all all about that and why should people you know think about building on public on Twitter in public yeah um so the first question of like why uh what skills do uh I want everyone to learn honestly just get go at web development and start learning stuff like very basic stuff about AI um and don't do these courses please like none of them really help like um the only way because it's such a rapidly evolving thing you have to actually be where it is happening you can basically just read yeah documentation blogs exactly not docu not just documentation and blogs but now just you can just read tweets because it just so happens that Twitter um I was just telling him that I was one of the first users of gpt2 playground um before gbd and every everything was here because I read about it on Twitter um so yeah Twitter is where things happen and then it's propagated to other social media that's how I think of it of it and it's really easy to make a very tightnit community of people who actually care about your product and if you get 10 people to care about anything you're building you'll be fine you'll be very fine um because if 10 people are interested they you have to just make sure how do I make these 10 people go and tell their friends about this and then it's just a network if it um and also how to make those 10 people stay and keep lacking the app yeah um it's all of this is really easy to do on Twitter and also Discord but Discord is like uh gated communities Twitter is like an infinite it's an ocean ocean of ideas flowing of you being able to have a voice and you being able to reach a lot of people um so I built my community on Twitter and like this the best thing I've ever done in my life honestly guys I wanted to shoot a podcast with dvia because I want you all to understand this perspective this side of the world uh would you recommend people to just come here SF once um not really it's like I I'm surely it's amazing and everything but you can do all the same things from Mumbai you can from Mumbai as well yeah I feel like when I came here I just saw that yeah crazy ideas and people are working on all of the stuff while living in their own you know could be a hostel could be a Airbnb could be a hotel living with friends right saving up on rent the city is so so expensive and and they're just building so I feel like it opens up my mind say I came here I met so many people learn their story about their ideas and the good thing about this place is that what whatever you building there will be someone who would want to like fund you for it even it could be the most outlandish idea yeah and there would be someone who wants to basically become the outlier become famous and they have a lot of money lying around so lots of potential for you to build something huge um I think that's what you don't get to see a lot in India it is developing but it's still in a very early stage but I I would interfere here just because this all of this only exists because people believe in themselves and if you believe in yourself and you're like uh I can make something of my own you can get to your shitty version of your product people like you can still get VCS um like there's your campus fund Nexus fund um a lot of VCS in India who reached out um to me before um VCS are there in India and they would give you crores and crores of money in India as well if you're building and you believe in yourself so yeah it doesn't matter you have to be around people who are buing building uh even if it's like a Twitter group um and you have to build yourself so there's one thing you should take away from this whole chat is the fact that there is a world outside of placements and DSA and that is where you would just scratch your own Edge build something that you're passionate about launch it on pH on Twitter on Discord servers get feedback iterate monetize on that if possible and just live your life so that has been the goal of my channel to help you make a living doing what you love you don't have to just follow this set path of going through college graduation placement marriage obviously marriage is important but but but going through this this this idea of what everyone else is doing you can be the outlier and you should follow folks like d to understand how to do that and what all is possible D thank you so much for taking out the time I wish you all the very best you're just 18 you're just getting started you are so so young I am 23 right now but I was a 18-year-old once on YouTube people can you can actually see my videos uh I was recording on like a 2 megapixel webcam on a laptop uh but it is crazy how far I have come and I can tell you for sure that this is just the beginning yeah thank you so much and you guys need to learn and get started with building thank you so much we'll see you in the next one e