The Huberman Lab Podcast: Discussion with Dr. Matthew Hill on Cannabis

Jul 11, 2024

The Huberman Lab Podcast: Discussion with Dr. Matthew Hill on Cannabis

Overview

  • Host: Andrew Huberman, Ph.D. (Professor of Neurobiology and Ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine)
  • Guest: Dr. Matthew Hill (Professor of Cell Biology and Anatomy at the University of Calgary)
  • Topics: Biological effects of cannabis, THC vs. CBD, cannabis and psychosis, medical applications of cannabis, risks associated with cannabis use.

Introduction

  • Dr. Hill's lab studies cannabis effects on stress, feeding, and behavior at different developmental stages.
  • Origin: Dr. Hill responded critically to a previous Huberman Lab podcast episode on cannabis via social media.
  • Purpose: Update discussion on cannabis' biological effects and current research findings.
  • Episode is not a debate but aims to provide an updated discussion.

Main Topics

Cannabis Overview

  • Cannabis: Plant with a rich history used for medicinal, spiritual, and recreational purposes.
  • Contains various molecules called cannabinoids (e.g., THC, CBD, etc.) and tpin (e.g., lemoning, pinene).
  • THC (Delta 9 tetrahydrocannabinol) is the main psychoactive component.
  • CBD (cannabidiol) is non-psychoactive but can affect anxiety and mood.

Psychoactive Effects of Cannabis

  • Described as Euphoria, altered perception, introspection, and altered time perception.
  • Onset of the High: Typically felt within 2-5 minutes when smoked; can last significantly longer when ingested as an edible (up to 6 hours).

Mechanisms of THC and CBD

  • THC acts primarily on CB1 receptors, which regulate neurotransmitter release and neuronal excitation/inhibition to maintain homeostasis.
  • CBD does not bind to CB1 receptors but affects other mechanisms like adenosine uptake, which may provide sedative effects.
  • THC vs. endoc canaboids: THC is high Affinity but partial Agonist; disrupts endogenous homeostasis by acting broadly and non-specifically.

Medical & Recreational Uses

  • Medical Uses: THC helps with pain management, appetite stimulation for cancer patients, reducing intraocular pressure in glaucoma, and anti-nausea effects. CBD is effective for certain pediatric epilepsy cases.
  • Anxiety and Sleep: THC might reduce anxiety at low doses but can increase it at high doses. CBD's claimed benefits in low doses are mostly Placebo; effective doses in epilepsy cases are significantly higher.

Potential Harms and Safety Concerns

  • Psychosis: Debate on whether THC causes lasting psychosis such as schizophrenia. Possible link but not causation; potentially accelerates onset in genetically predisposed individuals.
  • Addiction: Cannabis use disorder can develop, characterized by dependency and lifestyle disruption. Higher in regular users (approx. 30% in weekly users).
  • Physical Health: Smoking can cause lung damage; varying cardiovascular effects; cyclical vomiting syndrome.
  • Driving: Cannabis impairs motor skills and reaction time—similar public health considerations as alcohol.
  • Long-term Effects: Unclear, but potential cognitive impacts on memory and hormonal fluctuations are subject to ongoing debate and research.
  • Other Considerations: Differences in reactions and tolerability among individuals; high potency cannabis (concentrates) pose higher risks.

Misconceptions and Public Perception

  • Strains (Indacier vs. Sativa): Plant shape-based Botanical terms; subjective effects likely due to expectancy bias rather than inherent chemical differences.
  • CBD Craze: Marketed heavily but low dose products likely have placebo effects; clinical efficacy seen in high doses (e.g., 1500-2000 mg for epilepsy).
  • Policy and Use Trends: Varied by region. Legalization generally seen to lead to stable or reduced youth cannabis use but increases in adult and elderly use.

Conclusion

  • Clarified misconceptions from previous episodes about cannabis and THC effects, especially around psychosis and strain differences.
  • Emphasized the importance of well-designed, blinded clinical trials to understand cannabis' true effects and potential medical benefits.
  • Acknowledged the complexity of cannabis' effects and ongoing need for research to inform public health decisions.

Final Remarks

  • Thanked Dr. Hill for sharing his expertise and research findings.
  • Encouraged continued exploration and discussion within the scientific community to advance understanding of cannabis.

Important Links and References

  • Mentioned studies: Prof. Hill's research, cannabinoid receptor studies, THC & CBD pharmacology research, epidemiological data on cannabis use, genetic studies on schizophrenia.
  • Suggested further reading and continuous education on cannabis-related health impacts.