[Music] hello guys welcome back to R podcast a podcast where we use our voices and hopefully inspire you to use yours too in today's episode we are joined by this super talented individual he sings he act he is also a songwriter and he's also my very good friend he also an activist welcome Glen Yong all the way from Singapore hi guys I'm Glen Yong from Singapore and I'm very sad because I treat Elvin as my brother but he just called me his good friend that's how iend myself I'm just the my but yo thanks for having me on this man of course we've been trying to get you on our podcast since the first season but then you're also very busy flying here and there working and also I think also in between go your personal trip that I feel what do you mean because we both went on one oh yeah yeah yeah went on you say I'm your brother but you forgot of course I remember bro I took all the swimming shots for you man you see the th TR photos right on his Instagram his brother take one okay flip you bring all the you say you bring all the shots for me I mean like the the one that you the swimming pool showing your bad chest bad chest yeah cuz I was like I was think like w this show do on Instagram oh you bad chest I thought you say I have a bad body huh bad body what you mean b e a r bad oh no no no no no like feet okay okay so as uh just just to explain ourself right so this is how we talk we like very casually talk to each other which is like very nice cuz not many people in the industry we can talk like that so Glenn is one of the person where I feel like I click instantly do you want to talk about how we met how we met yeah so like we have a we have a mutual friend uh her name is Rachel so when I first came to the sing uh Malaysia to do my movie promo uh she she met at me and then she was telling me hey I need to introduce you to like some people in Malaysia and then I was telling her like I only want to meet nice people oh oh yeah I only want to meet nice and genuine people because I mean you know being in this industry there's a lot of fake ass people right so like I told her like like don't waste time like don't introduce me to like people that you know just want to like halah Hala here and there but they don't give a [ __ ] about you so she said like one of the more genuine people in the industry that she want to introduce is you oh so she show me your photo your stuff and say oh this gu's like the opal Malaysia no opal it's already OPI baby just kidding just she call me aushi no I call you aushi she say you're OPP so I'm like okay then she's like you really going to meet this guy and all then I'm like okay okay hopefully I I'll get a chance to meet him one day and then there was like January or something last year last year yeah yeah but we only met each other during end of last year right or yeah September September yeah it was end of last year so yeah it took like it was like 9 months after I first heard about you that I finally met you so we met at a event uh and then he was dancing at the dance floor so he always say he's an introvert right but that day he was totally not introvert you you wearing this black singlet remember no because my my outerwear is too hot it's like too thick already I don't know how you all maintain like you know the pretty face a handsome face like with like thick clothing and then in the like not very cold environment but bro you you were dancing that's why you took off your clothes I okay I took off my jacket already there only I started dancing because with the jacket itself is too heavy and it was too warm I cannot I cannot dance I cannot enjoy myself oh yeah you can really dance the F the first part of the event I was like just like [ __ ] this too warm I cannot move somehow it was quite crowded oh yeah it was it was there crowded it was like a club dance floor I mean it's not a club But like everyone was like it's like a m p area just grooving so you know I remember cuz that was my first event in Malaysia so I was like Wow damn Malaysians know how to party and you were performing at the event uh I performed the next day the next on the day where we met I didn't perform I was just like attending yeah was like sh shock you know because in Singapore right our events usually after like the main thing or like the the G the VIP comes photo taking and then that's all everyone just like leaves you know but in Malaysia after the main event there's another Main Event after that where everyone just party and stay so I was does it mean like a Malaysian party harder than a Singaporean yeah definitely man I mean coming from a Singaporean like I mean of course in like event media settings I think Malaysians do enjoy the moment more I feel m yeah so obviously you were enjoying the moment when I saw you I was like hey isn't that Elvin Chong I was telling like my team I was like I got to meet him because uh Rachel introduced me to him like online before but I've never spoken to you we've never met so I went to you and then you saw me I saw you like hey hi and then we both were like he know about me also somehow okay okay I heard about you but then I saw you already but you know I I didn't want to like make it looks awkward because like we never properly introduced to each other right but then again I remember you didn't really come straight to me and say hi where you asked your team to say hi no I asked I asked Terren Terren so he was one of my friend from Singapore he who was the one of the organizer oh for the event itself yeah because uh backstory I'm an introvert also so like when it comes to events usually I wouldn't approach someone that I don't know you know it's a bit awkward awkward yeah yeah yeah like I mean like we both the same we won't go like hey hello like like nice to meet you my name is this you know at events I think especially when you know I know you are not from Malaysia so I don't know whether like how much you heard about me because I don't know if you heard heard about me before I mean go straight to me yeah yeah bad stuff like good looking like good looking yeah so don't Point your okay so after we met right so we I felt like we click almost like right away instantly yeah in so not long after I think we met up at a at a restaurant remember the the yeah yeah was it panak no it's uh Casey's Place chili kampong yes Chili kampong restaurant so we ordered I asked you if you can eat spicy see yeah yeah I can do spicy so I ordered all the like really uh hot selling dishes the famous dishes s halfway already he's he was sweating you know he was sweating there I have to ask like like like Soviet for him to like bro I have no idea Malaysian Chile is like next level oh more M no spicy but like the Malaysian one is like really Next Level I mean I I really enjoyed the dish it was nice so that's how I kept eating right but I didn't know like it hit me that hard man like I was like sweating like mad and then he he okay no this guy like nothing then he asked me you okay or not then I was like yeah I'm okay I'm okay I didn't scar you feel like sabotage like you know L you go back to Singapore every day just stay in the toilet h no no no but I did lside after that though I must say for how long two days uh one two days one two days and I I felt that dinner even though I was sweating like M we really like bonded yeah we really clicked because it's not easy to find a friend in the industry yes yes and and also one of a reason why I feel like I could somehow uh trust you back then at the dinner is because you also share your part of the story and you gave me your one of your most genuine reaction which make me open up more Al don't know whether it's the the spice spices in the dis I don't know but then like I I share quite a bit and after that um you really did share quite a bit man that day yeah because you only have like I think two hours with me and then you have to go to paling Street oh yeah to meet with Mr our good friend by the way it wasn't funny remember the first time I met you then after that cuz Alvin always has insom here I'm not sure if you're Shing in your podcast so you always have trouble sleeping right then I was really worried but there was one day he sent me a photo that got me like like a lot of question Mar in my mind he sent me a photo I'm not sure you remember he sent me a photo of you holding on to a whiskey and like 3 4 a.m. I was like bro like hey bro what are you doing now and oh I cannot sleep and then fact he just sent me a photo of him holding the whiskey on his bed I was like was it my couch I don't know why there a pillow bro CU I don't drink and eat oh my couch has a pillow I don't drink and eat in uh my own room oh so clean unless it's a hotel room oh I see that's why I actually to be honest in our friendship right like I mean even though you're older than me you but our viewers is like Bros are you know and of course like like many times of course you give a lot of good advice like I will share I also ask you for advice your thoughts and know but many times to be honest I actually wonder and I was thinking hey actually are you okay not like because you always don't share about your stuff and obviously I know right like I know you have your struggles I know you have things that that you're are going through and you are the one listening to me and giving me your advice and your thoughts but then at the end of day who listens to you man you know that that's what I I think about to be honest cuz in this Brotherhood it's like we we D for each other I mean you share about your stuff so and all but I'm not sure if you know you just want to share to have a listening year or do you actually need uh yeah or like advice or like another perspective maybe right or wrong but like at least another perspective like you know so so uh in my defense is like I feel like my problem cannot be helped by other people so it's mostly like internally affected like you know how I think about stuff because for me it's very funny cuz the one of the reason why I cannot sleep at night is because I think too much I before before I go to bed my mind just like that's a like huge mind map and the worst part is you wake up at 7 or 8 yeah despite how late you sleep yeah without without you can tell in our trip no I know that's why hang I got even more worried to be honest yeah but I don't know how to help you you know that's the I think the the the most s part for me is I know your struggles mhm but yet I don't have a solution you know it's like [ __ ] it's like you know your brother has this problem okay but yet you don't know like how to help and then you are like just like a bit helpless so to me it's more like okay like if Elvin needs me he will text me yeah you know like he really wants to share yeah but obviously he never text and all so I mean oh the only I can do is check in right check in on you like if you're okay and all but yeah like but I mean I just want you to know that that you have a brw okay even though I'm in Singapore I know and you come here very often yeah yeah but mainly because of work yeah so when you're coming here for work of course your schedule be very busy so okay um yeah remember the talk we had in the when we had a lot of talk man we were in Milan outside of the toilet I mean in in between the toilet in the toilet not not inside toilet but like the the the Basin area I remember I remember so like all our friends like walking in and out they were like what is this two guy doing oh yeah man that was I'm going to say like we had some work stuff to talk about I mean especially from from Glenn cuz his schedule was like really busy which we'll we'll touch on it in a bit about work life balance but we had the longest talk after our event and I think it was like after the dinner yeah it was the dinner of the brand dinner so like a lot of the the brands from like different countries walk in and out to use a washroom they were just like look at us so they thought they felt bad they felt bad remember when they open the door they saw us they actually wanted to like oh sorry sorry sorry they want to close back the door and go back out and some even thought like we were like waiting for to use the toilet so but I think we we were in that space for almost an hour that's why people were starting to getting worried like what were we talking about thought we were fighting or something I was during during our Milan trip I mean like to I was having some I was having some um problems in my life like some personal issues uh so I was rather down and also very vulnerable like I felt like his whole energy is not there like his soul part of his Souls is just like don't know gone elsewhere he went back to Paris I don't know I just felt I wanted to go home already yeah I mean I was really excited for the the trip because first of all It's Fashion Week and and it was my first time yeah and it was his first time so before he went for the trip like we we were talking a lot you know and remember like we're hyping each other like oh my God bro it's your first together then Happ yeah correct months before like we should go Fashion Week together and then the opportunity came I remember when you got the news that you were going yeah and then we were like so happy celebrating and I mean obviously I'm I'm very happy for you because you never been there before and when I was there last year I kep down you like hey you need to go it's fun it's a whole new world you get to meet like people from different country so like it was a good trip still you know when we were there enjoy ourself it's just that I mean but like it was bad timing now you know like that I had issues you know during the trip I mean it wasn't work it was personal stuff but I really appreciated the fact that even though it was your first Fashion Week you're battling jet lag everyone was tired the schedule was packed you were still there for me you know like and of course of course and I'll forever remember that yeah really because I know good friend yeah I mean you are never say you're not yeah you are a good friend and a good brother because I know you you aren't exactly in the best state yourself but yet you were there for me you know and and I remember remember that that really that really spoke to me you know that really touched my heart and there was actually a conversation it was actually about work as well it wasn't just about personal like I was sharing with him I I'm just going to ignore the camera I was sharing with you remember I said like I was worried like about how how like whatever that's happening for me now in my work yeah wouldn't last because things are going really well you yeah yeah I remember that conv remember yeah I was saying like hey you know like things are going really well but yet I feel like I can't please everyone like not everyone will like me for who I am you were afraid some people might not like you for where you are and stuff like that you know like you don't know like whether these people are really generally wanted to help you or things like that yeah or you know people's opinion of you like today they love you but tomorrow they talk [ __ ] about you you know and you you you can't control about that and also like you were like escalating in your career like some people might say something trying to confuse you at that point of time yeah I remember that WEA so uh but we we that's why we had the longest talk but uh is that sorted already is yeah sort it's sorted but I must say it was actually one of your perspective that helped me a lot because I mean just to keep it real I was I was telling him like I feel like I don't think I'm at a peck of my career I feel like I'm still in the beginning I'm still at the starting line but obviously my three years in the entertainment industry this is the highest I've been you know cuz the first few years were [ __ ] you know so I was I was telling you like I'm worried that like this wouldn't sustain I'm not sure how long it will last I'm not sure if people will still want to like work with me in the future if like let's say they don't like or I I told you right like I feel like is it people are forced to work with me because of whatever I have right now and one day when let's say not as many people are supporting me anymore or like the the hype isn't there anymore will people still use me will people still want to work with me and then you were telling me like hey to be honest like it doesn't really matter because like even if everyone likes you y if you don't have the hype or you don't have the passion yeah the passion like it's still going to be the same you know like people will still use whoever that is at a hype at a moment yeah you know but if you don't no matter how much people love you right they also might not use you so you told me why not you just don't think about it so much you know just be yourself enjoy it you know as long as you are being sincere and genuine about all on all your work I think that should be fine exactly cuz when you think too much it's sort of like uh shifted your focus and you were confused all the time so you wouldn't be able to perform your best version of yourself when people are actually engaging you exactly exactly so that's why I ask you don't think too much like I already told over but not you and my team keep calling me oh but I'm I'm actually I have old so in me I have to say you do you do so that's why uh I've been through your stage so i s no and also if you really been through that you know people not using you anymore it's also if you look at a good way it's like you finally get to see who other people will be there for you because now if everyone is like hyping you up like 50% of the chances you won't be able to tell if that person is Gen or not caring for you or not I mean that that that that is a question that is always at the back of my mind you know because right now things are going well right yeah so obviously people would be here and like hey we love you we support you we want to work with you I want to hang out with you yeah we want to hang out with you and all I mean not that we have time to hang out but I mean it still feels good to know that like you know people want to hang out with you right but it will always be a question at the back of my mind like hey like does this person want to hang out with Glen Yong the artist or like me you know like as a person you know so so so like after I hear the perspective you share I was like damn it changed my life man mhm yeah like I felt like I should just be myself yeah you know so one of the ways I use because like in our career path right it's it's very hard to maintain uh whatever we have and also like it's never going to be a smooth path for your whole entire life so one of the ways I use is whenever you hit the rock bottom right always trying to find the light meaning find the good things you have at that moment itself for example like you say if let's say you find you're not at to pick anymore then some of your friends so-called friends you started losing them then just twe your mindset as in like you know I finally get to know who my real friends are and then I finally have more time to be better to improve myself so always try to find the good things whenever you at the Rock Bottom that's how you can keep moving because if you dwell too much in it right you're not doing anything about it just like keep blaming the universe not having stuff then what when the opportunity Ares for you to come back you won't be able to do anything so bro you always give such great advice right but do you take your own advice yes yes it just take longer time for me to accept so you know that people with good advices usually they suck at themselves especially helping themselves so I for you right like who do you go to for like advice because it feels like you're always the one that is the listening your or you're giving people advice but for yourself I pick and choose the things I want to hear okay and I have a few close friends around me uh but sometimes whatever they say I feel like it's not relevant because so you filter you you L fil the stuff that I want to listen but of course at the back of my mind I already know what exactly I needed to do you just need affirmation from someone else affirmation and also sometimes I refuse to accept the reality because I already know like at the back of my head I already know like how to plan out this and how to like solve this and what is the faster way to get the [ __ ] out of the situation but sometimes I just want to be in the moment and be sad for a while you just like the emo basically emo because I think it's part of growing because when you finally felt the pain and then you finally be able to like Let It Go not to suppress it I will grow as a person so do you feel like you trive in like negative emotions or like sad emotions sometimes because you know some people they don't like to be in that state you know like they they always want to like they try to be positive all the time but there are some people which obviously they love to be in that like I'm sad sentimental emotional and like they trive in that you know like there's no right or wrong it's just like a matter for me whatever I'm believe in is like what I believe is um we are all just human being it's normal to feel sad why why we have like all kinds of emotions that God give us right we have to feel all of them including disappointment including betrayals that's how you grow as a person that's what I believe in but if you try to suppress some of it always trying to be positive I'm not judging just what I believe in but what if that's not the real you you have to go through that in order for you to to grow right but if you don't you keep on like being positive all the time that's why I don't believe someone who can be always be cheerful all the time 100% or positive that's like the it's not possible it's not possible it's not possible one day if the bottle breaks right you just can't because that's not the real you're trying you were trying to suppress all the stuff that's supposed to help you grow in a bottle okay true I mean I agree I agree but based on our friendship right and like my understanding of you is that it feels like obviously we feel all five yeah different like emotions and all but like it feels like you're more towards the sadness and emo I mean I can say that for like CU I know you yes yes yes everyone knows I feel yeah yeah like obviously like people who hang out with you more often more than just work we know that hey actually you you you you you someone that think a lot you know and sometimes it can be pretty sad to put a lay man words right it's just like a s [ __ ] I mean technically yeah you you I am I'm proud yeah you there's nothing wrong with it for me for me I believe there's nothing wrong with it it's just like how I deal with my feelings and how I uh grow as a person um even though like some people might not understand like you know some people might worry about about me you know for being uh emotional most of the time even though like sometimes I don't show in my facial expression can feel uh you can feel the vibe yeah the energy yeah so I mean there's nothing wrong with it but like my I would say the only concern I have as a friend right is that like you know like constantly being in this state where do you find your happiness why do you think I always go on solo trip so there is where your joy comes that's when I don't have to be Ain Chong okay that's where I don't have to be uh the person that the like no expectations nothing I like to go to places where people don't know about me I can do whatever I want I can say whatever I want I can behave whatever I want so I I felt free I feel I felt like that's no responsibility I I remember you Shar this with me I don't have to like think of what clothes I have to we me people so I this kind of thing like when I don't have to do that I feel like uh anything else is is not that important anymore because all I care about is enjoying the moment and just beat myself like no one's going to judge me on my action on the things I say do you feel there's any way you can find some of that feeling back home in Malaysia I don't think because whenever I'm here uh all the responsibility just came back like I have to set a really good example to people around me I have to behave in a certain way I have to like the media and the the the people not just the media like even like the way I speak to my friends or like my colleagues I have to be in some kind of roles that I had to be in if not like people might not expect you people might say [ __ ] about you that could be another headline and things like that so do those things bother you a lot not bother it could affect my career it could affect my team who believe in me it could also affect the company it could affect also the friends around me cuz that's why I said that's like a really huge and heavy responsibility that I have I put it on myself but I cannot let that go up because uh well I have people have take care understand yeah that makes sense so your way finding a work life balance is through all your solo traveling yeah and sometimes with me do you just self inviting yourself I mean I didn't self invite but like you did uh we did went on like two to three trips together even though one is work three yeah we went on three trips together in the span of like 6 months yeah which is quite a lot for me yeah which is quite a lot yeah I know even for me like cuz I don't really have much friends too and the only friend you have is Singapore have been complaining shut up yeah I mean like to give a context my Social Circle is really small because I've always been working but I think this this part I don't think many people uh know is because like on your social media people feel like you have a lot of friends how I don't like okay honestly do you ever see me posting with like friends on my social media no if I don't know you right if I just look at your stories cuz you keep going to events and you keep like uh you you've been seen with many many people so I would assume if I don't know you personally serious like that there's the perception what about um you guys comment in the comment section and let us know do you guys think Glenn has a all of friends from his social media then we'll find out when the episode okay okay okay yeah I'm I'm curious to know so because I do realize that there there were people that ask me like hey I realize your Instagram you don't really post about other people I don't post about about hanging out with friends yeah exactly I mean I do as well so like people are like are you a really private person or even when I go to events I don't take photos and pictures with other celebrities but you take photo of me different man comp other people man you want to put me in the spotlight again lot whatspp messages he's my only Singapore friend and then me with no actually uh actually uh uh in my Malay like Malaysian like K friends or like celebrity friends I would say you're one of the closest ones already the first few friends and the closest ones also yeah because after you meet like so many people it's not everyone you can click with for some yes you know it's not that you don't like them or like they don't like you but just different frequency you know you know some friends you just know like this these friends are only for events like only you you see them EV friends or some friends like just like you know you know you can go on trip trips with sometimes you know like you can spend so you think we can still go on another trip can but with a few conditioner no dining in my room shut up this guy after we go on our trip still say want to film uh yeah brocation or like a you know like we travel together something like this you want to do that though it's quite fun it's quite fun we have to find time yeah we have to find time or we have to just lock that in M if keep talking it's never going to happen yeah okay we'll get your crud fil can can we have to have a plan for SL definely plan up okay but anyways talking about time like how do you balance when like your your work life because like the last time you travel so long like was December right was was the parish and then after that the Bali was this year oh this year January but after that then you didn't travel already you was just like working on my own trip no no um how I balance my time and work is okay when I was sort of at my Peak that time I don't know how to rest I don't know how to put a pause like for me if there's a 2 hours Gap I want that 2 hour two hours Gap to be filled with work I can don't sleep I can just work like seven days a week you still don't sleep by the way but yeah but nowadays I feel like if I needed a break really badly I'll just like go I'll buy the tickets I'll just go I'll lock in the calendar and just go because so whenever off day you just fly not off day or whenever I feel like I needed to have a break uh it's how I uh distress myself so if I cannot be the 100% of myself at work there's no point of keep working because people can see from the work itself that wasn't performing so do you feel like you need another trip soon already Yes I ask a question because I I can feel you after this podcast probably and yeah so that's that's how I manage my time right now so because people might say like oh you know IND this career path is very tough because a lot of last minute request a lot of last minute uh uh invitation and all that but of course you can also take all the jobs but can you perform or not but can you really be at your P when be at your best when you're working if you cannot then what's the point because like you said M if you cannot show result you don't have the numbers or you are not at your best people won't be using it any one time two time three times and then bye-bye yeah exactly so might as well you just like give up for this few times if you're always at your best people will come back to you that's why I feel like you have to prioritize your own own mindset and also your own your own mental health health emotional health yeah that's very true and I think that's that's one aspect that I really admire about you that you know how to take care of yourself I have to yeah I think yeah you know when you C and when you need to like retract or just disappear for a while yeah and I think not everyone has that mindset yeah like especially in today's context because you know there's that whole like hustle mentality where people are like oh no days off you know we got to work every single day for our dreams kind of stuff but there's also another mindset where about like okay you need to love yourself you need to like Parise your own health so I feel like for myself like okay I'm a bit in between yep because I'm a very driven person y when I set goals and dreams I make sure like I make it happen y but in the process of that I don't really know how to take care of myself yeah or I feel guilty when I have to rest you know yeah like even when we are traveling he's always on his phone hey bro sorry I have to like do this posting sorry I have to edit this photo sorry I have to have meeting in between yeah I'm still okay I'm still struggling with that I'm still struggling with really resting when I'm supposed to rest and all because I feel like maybe because I feel that I'm still very far away from where I want to be yeah of course I I'm very blessed I'm very grateful with everything that I've done so far all the opportunities and the people who support me and believe in me you know my fans my team uh the people in the media industry and the brands as well but I still feel like there's a lot more things I want to do that I've not done yet so whenever I'm taking breaks I feel like crap like I'm resting here people out there working it's a b like the athletic mentality like you know it's like maybe because I'm a huge fan of Kobe bran m i mean I watch MB a lot and like this Kobe Bryan guy is crazy you know like he wakes at four to practice or everyone the team is still sleeping he already shot like don't know how many thousand like cops so maybe because I I always put myself in such a expectation whereby I have to perform yeah so in order for me to perform in my work all like in every other areas I need to put in more work than everyone else you know that's why that's one thing I can see uh from you is like you are a very hardworking person but I'm also quite worried about you because like because I believe in quality of work so if you have 10 tasks or 10 goals this year you want to achieve all it's almost impossible I know you probably can achieve all but maybe like two of them is at your best but eight of them is just like me in my current situation right now I rather to have just five so that I can make sure all five of them are the best version because at the end of day you have to enjoy what you do exactly you have to be happy of what you achieve yeah maybe you can achieve 10 of them but you only happy about two of them next year you will keep on thinking about last year I managed do 10 but I'm not SA with the rest then that's sort of like affecting you for your next year's goal and you keep looking on 10 maybe you want to do 20 more because you you didn't fix your mindset for me it's the quality of the work that you given out or you show to people and also how content you are towards the work that you did are you truly satisfied with the work that you delivered that's why the quality is the most feel that that satisfi of your work thing will never be 100% but close enough definitely definitely plus a yeah but I feel like I think it's the same one like when it comes to acting I'm not sure about you but when when I'm filming on set when I'm playing a role every scene that I film I always go back home with a lot of regrets like I'll think oh damn I could have done better in that scene I should have like portrayed in a certain way I should have like been more natural in this I should have like show this more you know and I feel like being an actor it is a profession where it's full of regrets because every you look back at your scene when it's like completed you can always SP mistakes you can always SP like ah [ __ ] like it was that's why that's why we needed a really good director to help to help us more monor because like you said actor is very fluid like one script you can act in like Millions ways correct correct but how do you know which one is the best version how would you know which one the audience love the most or the judges judges of like what shows like would like the most you can never know it CU different people has different taste maybe like some some people like you like really Mal acting natural some people like like dramatic ones that's why like when you think of all this possibilities maybe you feel like less uh affected by this as long as so you don't get affected like I used to okay but then when I think of the scenarios right all the scenarios that I have just as long as at that moment you know you have done your 200% best and then there's no way you can do after that to change whatever you have already done that you want to like go back to say can we redo the scene the next day cannot so why do that's what I always think about you know like I like can I redo that scene obviously I don't ask because if the director is like okay with it everyone's okay then you know but it's just that about like ah if I could refilm this scene I would love to do it you know on the same day or the next day the same day or like yeah whichever I mean if next day then there's nothing I can do CU it's like different location different like if it's on the same day and always at like ah I would have wanted to ask for a refilm for this scene but you know it's pass it's over everyone's okay so yeah I think for myself right because I'm I'm such a workaholic M so like what you say when we work there are expectations yeah with the people who work with us whether is it our staff our team or like cuz we have to put on different heads when we're different people right so because of the position I'm in I have my own company yeah I have to lead my team yeah like I work people have to listen to my direction and like I have to give a creative input many times I have to be the adult so when it comes to my friendships I want to be a kid yeah because even in my family right I'm kind of like the the the adult too yeah you know like even though I'm the youngest in my family but like a lot of times I feel like I take on many responsibilities at home yeah you know like for example recently we had our family trip to Japan I plan a thing I pay for the family first time now okay like because finally you know I earned some money already I feel like I can give back yeah I can afford not usually my dad is the one paying so even the family is doubting already so where can I be the child where can I be where else can you be the child yeah is when I hang out with you with my friends you know yeah yeah where I can feel like okay I don't have to take and resp I don't have to take I can just say whatever I want I and just be childish at times and say some stupid stuff because I know like yall would't judge me yeah you know like at the end of day like when it comes to work you know like it will still deliver but when we have fun we can like have a lot of fun yeah a lot of fun you know like we can say like we want to cook together do all this like stupid so stuff record down the moments I road trip road trips because those things that part of you can only come out when you're with certain people you know not at work and all and but you don't have to take care of other people yeah exactly and the thing is is special like for me like our friendship because we met each other true work you know so technically we have a certain expectation but yet our friendship is we can just be ourselves and rely on yeah and rely on each other and also I think there what there there what special and that's what's precious to me so actually when I saw you doing these podcast so I was like damn like I really want to come because you don't share much about yourself yeah this is where I share the you you don't share much about myself and like I hope that like when I'm on the show when I'm finally now I'm here yeah I do hope that like I can also bring out that side of view that only I see you know in our private friends group Gathering I hope I can bring out a bit of that in this podcast because actually that is very I hope more people see it they even though you wouldn't want this podcast yeah a lot of all of my friends have been outing me already so you're one of them no really because I genuinely think you are such a like you have such a good heart I I do I do believe I have a good heart just that I don't you don't show it I don't want to let people know CU they might take advantage of it I know okay Glam I have to stop you here because I feel like we have a lot more to talk about wait what else do we need to talk about next episode we have to end already so I feel like I feel like we can do another episode you know talking about other stuff if you part two you can comment yeah so uh we share a lot about our working uh life and also our personal life how we have a balance between both our lives uh so if you want to know more if you wanted part two comment uh on the comment section down below and we might let you have it and we might have Glen back again uh thank you so much for tuning in thank you so much for joining my podcast my bro thanks for having me uh don't forget our episode uh comes at 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