foreign ER of gamdom and we're going to talk today about crypto casinos and the first question is what countries and markets is ganzan live within now and what are your next focuses hey thanks Stephanie for letting me be here um I'm Keith Romer I'm the founder of gamdum um at the moment we are focusing uh at uh getting uh local licenses in Africa um we're looking specifically at Nigeria at the moment as uh we as a crypto Casino have a bit of an issue getting a European licenses as they are not enough legislations passed to have a safe environment for crypto and Regulators don't feel feel very uh good about it so um we have to look at other markets that are like more flexible that allow uh crypto as this is like everything we believe in and think will be the future so we are not looking to get other local uh markets going before we have like a clear like crypto legislation um which will still take about the US Europe um and uh Asia but for Africa they are definitely like some interesting markets out there that are very crypto friendly and especially with um the environment of how hard it is to get Banking and how hard it is remitting those to to remit in those countries so Nigeria special is a very interesting Market indeed we did want to ask you about Licensing in in their extra steps steps and processes as well as just different markets where it's available um well there are not really much extra steps to get like a local license as a crypto Casino besides that you have to really like uh verify um uh pretty much that crypto is available and uh and that that everything is okay and that we do like proper like AML checks and uh it's we have like an explaining document we we show everyone where um where we explain how everything works of chain analysis and uh um also how like we do like um uh the deposit limit restrictions because like with crypto you can of course deposit as much money money as you want to into one address so what we do is uh we have like a system uh coming up where you can just deposit crypto into your account but if you have like for example a thousand Euro uh deposit limit set it will go into a vault account and the Vault will lock and will just release it based on the limit over time time and you have like the option to withdraw the money again from that Vault outside of the casino so you won't be able to play with it okay and one of the benefits that I've seen on the gambling website talks about the sort of anonymity of using crypto as a player and how that's helping some people but as far as AML checks and know your customer checks how do you get that done when there is that anonymity in this space um yeah that's uh that's a bit of like an uh misconception because of course like playing with a crypto is uh that uh far like Anonymous as where you're like processing your payments too so if you buy crypto and then deposit into like a casino um it's a it's a bit uh um that is like a bit the anonymous anonymous aspect of it but what it comes down to is that you can track every transaction on the blockchain so if someone is up to no good then you'll have like a network of uh transactions where you can always see where the money originally comes from so there's like no way in re hiding criminal activity but if someone wants to be anonymous and wants to gamble anonymously then nobody is going to be looking for that person as well so as long as the source of funds are like clean that's like not an issue but a kyc and AML uh happen as much as uh with uh as if they would be sending in like a bank transfer or um uh doing a bank wire as cash out because like we actually need to do more confirmations because we don't have like this initial information so sometimes we need to do checks where like other casinos wouldn't be doing checks just that we have the information on the player if someone positive like credit cards plays and then withdraws crypto then we of course need to see this this credit card belong to the person that's actually withdrawing because we can't see if he is withdrawing to like an account that uh that's that that has his name on it so for that we really need to verify to uh also prevent uh credit card fraudsters so the verification is definitely still there yeah so um uh to really like kind of track everything years back and it's like a more public um whereas with uh if you play like on a regular Casino you might be uh just uh um seen by like the person that that checks your documents um but the blockchain is very public um but uh of course crypto has like many more other benefits as uh transaction speeds uh fees on a big transactions are very low and you can do a bigger transfers without having like a to wait like two three days uh to get your money approved so it's like a very convenient also like for winners if they win on the casino to also do like a smooth cash out without having to wait uh too long to receive their money and have it safely in the account one of our questions was going to be about some of the other benefits so thank you for letting us know and uh if you could tell us any other reasons why you think crypto might be the future as you said um go for it let us know those as well and if there are any other main differences between a regular online casino and one on crypto yeah so um like other benefits of course are like that you can do like micro transactions with like very low fees for example a Litecoin you can send with like uh two cent fees uh like two dollar transactions and uh you uh can uh Gamble very uh very small as well as just uh playing very uh very large so if you have some sort of budget and you go to regular casinos and they force you to at least spend fifty dollars on a deposit that of course uh gets you more into like a gambling problem than if you can like just deposit a little bit five dollars and uh you uh do a casual uh spin uh on a Saturday so I think this is like a very interesting benefit as well and uh of course it's like a niche community so if you're like gaining a customer in a crypto you're not only gaining like a customer but you're getting a new part of like the community uh which we're trying to form like in the chat as well where people meet their friends again that are also like interested like uh new cryptos that are coming up or like new trends that are happening and uh there's like a lot of price speculation going on and of course everyone is like very excited about how crypto is developing and so on so the community aspect is is a big factor and do you think within the community what the trends for which cryptocurrencies are being used most and other factors in that space are are affecting the casino space so are the most popular cryptocurrencies the same ones that would be used in your Casino um so for like gambling they're like very specific cryptocurrencies used of course sometimes like the uh like uh coins like meme coins like um uh Dogecoin or like um uh uh Shiba Inu those are like very much used for gambling as people uh don't have other things to do with them and so they're stuck on a wallet people get bored and they start gambling uh the fees are also very low and uh what's very beautiful about it is it's also like um very inflated so you can deposit a hundred coins and get 200 coins out it feels like more like you have something on hand than if you would be playing with Bitcoin for instance where you deposit 0.002 or you get out 0.003 it doesn't really feel like much and I feel like that way people can also control and estimate a bit more what they have on hand um but for us the biggest cryptocurrency actually is a Litecoin because like the transaction costs are very low the transaction speed to deposit is very fast and uh um I think Litecoin is one of the most under appreciated cryptocurrencies because like I know also from like um friends that have cryptocurrency uh casinos that Litecoin is actually always like the biggest one in uh um deposit volume so it's like a very under a radar cryptocurrency but I feel like it's like one of the uh uh only like smaller cryptocurrencies that has actual a lot of use so it's uh um it's very interesting to see so they're kind of separate can you of where crypto is used then yeah yeah everyone wants of course like they're a cryptocurrency to uh to succeed and then there are separate communities there but uh everyone has like a bit of affirm and a Bitcoin so that's how people find uh together and like uh the most heated arguments got it under newer Community the specific gandum crypto Casino Community you have bonuses that you offer called rain and snow can you talk about how those work mm-hmm so um basically like as we like allow uh uh very small transactions with uh Litecoin um we are able to give players like very small rewards where they can uh keep playing with so they don't even need to uh necessarily deposit so we have like a free reign or like when it's uh a winter event we have like snow and uh with that we give away every uh three four hours between 50 and 250 bucks completely for free to like all the players that are registering to join um to join the event um and that is like then being distributed to all players at the same time and even if it's just like uh four or five cents uh as people can bet like in very small fractions at uh as anyways entertaining and people have fun with it right and uh yeah in terms of other rewards we have like uh instant uh rakeback monthly weekly uh uh rake back and then a daily surprise um and that just gets back to the players that are uh wagering a lot and then we have a leaderboard right now it's like for the summer of 1 million uh as a rager contest um and pretty much like the two other people that waged at the most will get uh uh rewards like a split depending on how they are like standing on the leaderboard um so running this competition right now it's like a pretty big one we usually don't make it that big but uh players find that one very interesting especially high rollers so um we have like quite some entertainment value there as well okay and kind of speaking of the weather and the atmosphere has Camden done anything to offset the greenhouse gas emissions or the environmental impacts that mining for cryptocurrency can have on the planet at all yeah so um to give like a bit of context as well so like the cryptocurrencies that we do have that actually cause um emissions are uh uh Litecoin in Bitcoin ethereum and usdt are actually green cryptocurrencies as their proof of stake so they actually don't cause any Greenhouse housing missions but uh for Litecoin and Bitcoin we are actually donating every year to uh uh um non-profit organization that's called a climate connect and uh climate connect is like a platform that allows users to uh that have like a certain project in like the city or country and need help to connect with experts or like other people that are doing like a similar project and exchange ideas or resources get investors and uh basically to make events happen so like the either they connect automatically through finding each other on the platform or like the team there make sure to actually search the database and see if they can help people that are struggling at to uh move forward with their project it's a very uh popular in Germany France and uh the benellucks area right now and they're expanding and they're relying heavily on funding of course as their non-profits and it's pretty interesting to see like how just connecting people without like doing something directly like for the environment already helps so much where there's like not really like a very good platform where you can do that like especially like uh on Facebook you won't be like that easily be finding other people uh that are willing to do the same thing on Instagram or Instagram there's just like no platform for this so that's why I'm supporting this project it sounds like a great program the last question we have for you is about how the crypto casinos can prove that they are provably fair and how a secure hash algorithm works all right um for that I'm going to explain a little bit how uh it currently works for like non-crypto casinos and how it works also like for third-party providers that we are using since this is of course like a common problem um and uh at the moment like all of those software providers they are of course required to do like uh to get a RNG certificate for every game they're producing so what essentially happens is they uh show how like the game has like a real RNG to like a a verifier um that uh manually like approves of like this game is like a fair at that point where they show the code but what actually isn't really happening is that uh you can't really verify if the code that they showed there and uh how and the calculations how the ing work actually work the same in practice so the software developer can just release any uh codes and make any changes to like uh the code without anyone noticing which creates like events of uh sometimes fraud which we see sometimes as people think they can escape with crypto um and at the same time also like there's some pseudo Randomness going on we're like um there is like a very unlikely winnings happening uh with certain providers I'm of course not gonna name any here um but uh and then you see like that there's a problem right because like there are people that are influencers that are streamers on Twitch or uh making YouTube videos and then on with one provider they win much more than other providers which is of course like a uh great marketing aspects but at the same time it doesn't only cost us money as a casino but it costs the customer money as it looks like the the slot is much better than it actually is and that that harms the customer actually uh quite a lot um and it's a very unfair bit of marketing also for like other like software providers that are not doing that um so and then from like a casino perspective if something like that happens we can't verify what's going on streamers and influencers they want to prove that everything is fair the customer wants to prove that things are fair and actually of course the software providers that are under suspicion they want to show us that their games are fair so the question is why are like um uh especially slot providers not prove to be fair but it's like very possible to make the games proof be fair um so that is a bit um why I believe very much and provedly fair games and uh the way it actually works is you uh get like a public hash um that is like provided like every game that you can like check and then there's a private hash and uh this private hash is either running on um uh it's either like stored with random.org and generate it there which is not 100 provably Fair because like it's still a third party that has control words so it makes it not really a hundred percent random that you can verify it um but some other system is that you can put it like on the EOS blockchain and I don't know the exact technical details of that how it works um I have to verify that again with the Developers but basically with the blocks that are being mined on the EOS blockchain is randomly like determined what the results are going to be and on based on that uh uh the user can be like sure that the games are like a truly random and are not being interfered with if you have like a history of a game so you can look back like that you know like hey one day ago this result was already predetermined and it wasn't influenced by the casino operator that is pretty much like how uh customers can tell that the game wasn't influenced so that is the concept of probably fair so the players have access to all of that data and they can check it and so can you and that benefits everyone yes so they got the the data from us and then they need to use a validator to basically like uh verified information great well I think we all learned a lot about cryptocinos today thank you very much for joining us Felix thank you for asking good questions uh especially about like prove to be fair it's like a very interesting uh I feel it's like a big big issue right now and we see like more and more like cases coming up that that I like looking a bit suspicious and where there is like some clarity needed so I hope there's more moving in this space and uh some people that are running software companies are listening to this interview and uh can probably take a deeper look at that as it's of course uh something very smart to do for the company and it makes everything more safe also reputation wise great advice we hope they're listening too thank you again foreign