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Exploring Systems Thinking and Complexity

Apr 18, 2025

Lecture on Systems Thinking and Complexity

Introduction

  • Hosts: Mike Jackson and Jean Bolton
  • Focus on their recent books:
    • Mike Jackson: "Critical Systems Thinking: A Practitioner's Guide"
    • Jean Bolton: "The Dao of Complexity: Making Sense and Making Waves"
  • Aim: Explore how different perspectives on systems thinking and complexity complement and challenge each other.

Speaker Backgrounds

Professor Michael Jackson

  • Emeritus professor at the University of Hull.
  • Known for contributions to critical systems thinking.
  • Advocates for using diverse methodologies to address complex problems.

Dr. Jean Bolton

  • Fellow of The Institute of Physics, visiting academic at the University of Bath.
  • Focuses on complexity science, strategy, change, and leadership.
  • Emphasizes the interconnectedness of different fields of knowledge.

Key Themes and Ideas

Jean Bolton: The Dao of Complexity

  • Explores the nature of the complex world.
  • Describes complexity through metaphysical lenses and ontological resonance.
  • Emphasizes patterning and the process of complexity.
  • Discusses the idea of "becoming" and intrinsic indeterminism.
  • Ethical underpinning: Aims to make the world a better place.
  • Focuses less on methods, more on understanding and worldviews.

Mike Jackson: Critical Systems Thinking

  • Attempts to compile valuable insights from systems thinking over 40 years.
  • Emphasizes the limitations of traditional scientific methods in handling complexity.
  • Systems thinking as complementary to scientific approaches.
  • Details a multimethodology called "EPIC":
    • Exploring problem situations via systemic perspectives.
    • Building with systemic methodologies.
    • Intervening flexibly.
    • Checking improvements across multiple dimensions.
  • Advocates for systemic leadership to overcome barriers to systems thinking.

Comparative Discussion

Similarities

  • Both emphasize the importance of pragmatism and incorporating multiple perspectives.
  • Share a commitment to addressing global challenges and improving societal structures.

Differences

  • Jean focuses on ontological questions and the metaphysical nature of reality.
  • Mike centers on practical methodologies and structured systems thinking.
  • Debate on whether systems thinking is primarily about "what is" vs. "what is becoming".

Challenges and Future Directions

  • Resistance to complexity and systems thinking in managerial contexts.
  • The need for better education and training in systems thinking and complexity.
  • Pragmatisms' risk of axiological blindness and the importance of underlying values.
  • Both emphasize ethics and the co-creation of future systems.

Conclusion

  • Importance of dialogue and critical engagement within the field.
  • Encouragement to integrate and apply both systems thinking and complexity science.
  • Call for more structured educational approaches in systems thinking and complexity.