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Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast: "It" Factor in Leadership

now I know that there are people infinitely and indescribably more dangerous than I am and I am getting better and better and better and better and more humble and more humble and more humble and I took that lesson into my leadership at the church and I [Music] apologized hey welcome to another episode of the Craig Russia leadership podcast if you're new with us we drop a brand new teaching on the first Thursday of every month month and if you're not receiving the leader guide yet let me just beg with you and plead with you you need to get the leader guide it's full of additional information uh content and application questions for you to cover with your team just go to life. church leadership podcast and we'll send you the leader guide free with each episode now let me tell you what we're going to do today I'm going to share with you a talk that I did a few years ago at the Global Leadership Summit if you don't know about the Global Leadership Summit this is a Global Leadership event probably the biggest leadership event in the world uh this year the event is going to be on August the 8th and 9th broadcast out of Chicago to over 500 sites around the US I'll be doing the opening talk again this year today I'm sharing an opening talk I did from a few years ago if you want to grow in your leadership this is not a paid ad this is just because I love the event uh we'll actually put a link in our leader guide that will give you a discount you can go to Global leadership.org and find out information about the event this talk I did talks about leaders that have it what is it well sometimes you'll meet a leader that's so gifted you're like going man like she just seems to have it or he just seems to have it and you kind of wonder what is it that they have well it is often a reflection of what I'd call paradoxical qualities in great leaders you'll often find that great leaders have two seemingly contradictory qualities that together can create something unusually special I'm excited to share with you uh the majority of this talk and I pray that it speaks to your leadership and then I've got some more thoughts for you on the back side of it let's now look at leaders that have it today we're all going to grow in our leadership would you look at the person sitting next to you and tell them you got to get better because everyone wins WIS tell them because everyone wins when the leader gets better now look at your second choice the one you didn't choose look at the other person on the other side and say you got to get better you got to get better high five three people right now high five three people say get better get better get better get better get better get better go ahead and have a seat if you will if you're ready to get better say I'm ready are you ready ready big question have you ever met a leader and said wow this is a passionate Visionary with like uh Relentless Focus that's incredibly Valu driven and people centered there's something special about the leader and you think something like well this leader gets it this leader has it or maybe you've walked into a church or a business and there was this vibe there was this hum there was this sense of expectation and you thought well this this church has it or this business has it or maybe you walked into a church or a business and you thought I don't want to be here the employees don't want to be here this place is dead there's there's no momentum there's no vibe there's no there's no vision there's no expectation and maybe you thought well this place doesn't have it I want to talk to you about it everybody say I want it everybody say I'm going to get it I'm going to tell you the story behind it it's very special to me um in the Year 2005 or so um I lead a church and our church was one of the first ones to expand to doing Church in multiple locations something that had never been done before and as we were expanding we were were learning and we would build um a building that would look exactly the same in one place as it would in another if you dropped into anyone and we blindfolded you you wouldn't know which one you were in because they were exactly the same the worship was the same songs at each Place done by equally solid worship leaders the staff was all hired in the same system trained in the same culture and values uh the teaching was exactly the same via video all the contributing inputs were the same but the outcomes were incredibly different it was bizarre you could walk up to one and walking into the building you felt something this faith and this anticipation you can almost hear this like something was going to happen then you could go 12 miles down the road to the exact same building with the exact same music that same teaching with the same kind of staff and you'd walk up and you you you wouldn't feel it and it and and and people didn't seem to really care and want to be there and it was so bizarre because all the contributing factors were the same but the outcome was very different we started to scratch our head and we didn't really have language for it but what we just started to say is like well this one has it and this one doesn't have it and so we started to ask ourselves what is it and what contributes to it and we did kind of a real indepth organizational study well in 2008 at the Global Leadership Summit my first time ever to be there I released a book that was called it I'm excited today to re-release a very expanded and revised version of it called lead like it matters better title I must say uh seven principles for a church that lasts and I want to encourage you to get a copy of this uh even if you're not a church leader I learn from Business Leaders all the time leadership principles are leadership principles buy a bunch buy a hundred for your team you say you just want to sell your book yes I worked hard on it but my family is honored to donate 100% of every dollar from every book sold everywhere to start new churches so I say it with Integrity I believe this will help you uh I want to help you lead like it matters that raises the question what is it and the answer is I'm not really sure beautiful you wrote a book gone and you don't know I'm not buying that one okay let me tell you what it's not uh it is not the result of a model in other words your business can't copy someone else's model and get it your church can't copy a program from a great church and get it it's not the result of a program what we do know is that there are things that you can do to lead toward it and there are also things that you can do to kill it uh we found that one leader doesn't necessarily bring it but the wrong leaders can kill it am we could say that it happens but sadly more often it doesn't happen what is it uh there's bad news and good news what do you want first some like shout out you want the bad news first good news Shout It Out shout out bad news get the bad news out of the way the bad news is uh just because you don't have it doesn't mean you can't get it the good news is that's not the bad the bad news is just because you have it doesn't mean you're going to keep it the good news is if you don't have it you actually can get it and what I want to do is I want to try to help you get it and in the book there are seven factors of organizations that have it the book was written from a total organizational perspective the book was done and settled and I was sitting down with five leaders at my desk and they said hey what qualities do the leaders have in common that have it like how dumb am I I wrote a whole book from an organizational perspective and never sat down to look at the qualities of the leaders that have it and so this little Core group we decided to do just a study and started looking at our leaders those special ones that had that something special and then we looked at top leaders in the field and what we found was not shocking on one hand and on the other hand it was mindblowing what we discovered is of every leader that has it that something special that you trust you believe in you want to follow you you're you're you you you you you're excited to be in the room with them the leaders that had it they have very extreme qualities which is no surprise whatsoever I talked to people all the time like we just want to hire well-rounded leaders I don't at all I don't want well-rounded people who are good at a lot of things I want extremes I want those who are incredibly talented in very specific very narrow almost weird areas why because greatness is found in the extremes if you are a little bit weird go ahead and step into it be extremely weird if you obsess about something if you're like really passionate about something if you're really really good at something press into it because greatness is found in the extremes we were not shocked by that we saw these people very extreme qualities what was shocking is we looked at Pastor Bobby grinwald my closest friend he's the founder of the ersin Bible app we looked at him and somebody said yeah Bobby he has this extreme optimism this Visionary he sees everything's possible but generally when there's someone like that they don't have their feet on the ground Bobby is this extreme Visionary and yet he's brutally realistic it's like these were opposing extremes we looked at Jerry Hurley one of my closest friends who's been with me for almost 25 years and he is a worldclass culture Builder and when he talks to you you always know where you stand you he you never wonder he is brutally direct but he loves you so much you feel loved even when he's firing you in the name of making the organization better he is direct act as can be and yet he's kind and he's empathetic and he's compassionate and it was so confusing because I I like these people they have these like really one extreme over here and then there's one other extreme over here and they were like Polar Opposites was bothering me it's like is this like contradiction is this like hypocrisy and then in case you don't know I'm a pastor of a church and so there is one that I talk about more than anyone else and his name is Jesus and it doesn't matter your spiritual background you're welcome here but I follow Jesus and I looked at Jesus and I thought he's like that think about it he is like extreme like fully God he's all God and he's fully man he's both he is he's the lion and he's the lamb right he is the alpha he's first and he's the Omega he's last his teachings were extreme if you want to find your life you have to lose your life if you want to be great leaders you have to serve and it hit me the leaders that have it often have EX dreams that appear to be contradictory but when working together they're explosive in leadership impact so I came up with a little bit of a title or a little definition for a leadership Paradox I made this up so if you don't like it you can just email me at Craig this is not a real email address.com uh what is a leadership Paradox I call it this it's a contradictory leadership quality ities it's contradictory leadership qualities that together create a Synergy of undeniable leadership impact if you want to grow in your leadership impact I would say grow in your extremes and let's grow in some contradictory or almost opposing extremes we did a study this little group of us we looked at a ton of different leaders and we came up with 14 different leaders leadership paradoxes and I thought to myself you will not pay attention that long so I narrowed it down to 10 taught it to my staff revised it and today I'll narrow it down a little more and give you the top ones then I'm going to choose the most important three I believe for our culture and our leaders and we're going to dive into that let me show you the leadership paradoxes we discovered one is those that have it they are both on one extreme incredibly confident they're secure there's a boldness and at the same time they're humble that they care about people it's not all about them we found that they are incredibly driven they work hard they drive for results and at the same time they're also very very healthy they're not burning people out and they actually have a life we found also that they're focused they know what they're called to do they know what they're not called to do but when the time is right they become flexible they're both they're ruthlessly focused and they're intentionally flexible we found like Bobby they believe anything as possible they're incredibly optimistic but they're not so Pie in the Sky optimistic that they're not feet on the ground realistic they'll confront the brutal flax facts to uh quote Collins they are Jerry Hurley direct you they're always communicative and very very clear and they care about people they they are empathetic they're loving they genuinely want you to grow their kind they are also empowering and they trust and they believe in people and you're going not going to like this word but I will prove to you later not today but in another day why it's true they're also controlling and they are and you don't like it but they are they're going to empower but there are some things it's got to be done this way if you're going to be here and they're both they trust you and there are times when they will annoy you because they control you another Paradox they are Urgent get it done get it done get it done drive drive they push for results but at the very same time they're wise enough to play the long game they're urgent and they're patient this last one is not true for all none of these are true for all this one is especially true for founding leaders like me especially founding leaders they are annoyingly ridiculously Frugal don't spend money on there don't buy donuts then they'll blow your mind with this multi-million dollar risk they're abundant they're both at the same time these contradictory opposing qualities that together create a Synergy of leadership impact today what I want to do is I want to pick the top three I want to talk to you about the top three in your assignment wherever you're watching from today is to choose the one that best applies to you the one one at the end of our talk I'm going to ask you to stand up for your one so pay attention and choose your one I also have a uh free podcast called the Craig roell leadership podcast I will cover all of the rest of those on the podcast one is out now one is coming up we'll go over all of those on the podcast just to give you a holistic View today we're going to look at three you're likely going to have one that's dominant and you're going to have one to develop and maybe you want them to grow both together together number one leaders that have it are both confident and humble leaders that have it they're both they're they're bold and that they're they're humble because when you think about it what kind of leader do you want to follow you're attracted to both confidence and humility one without the other is not effective the problem is for some of us leaders uh we have too much confidence we have what we might call misplaced confidence in other words like might say how good are you and you're like I'm good baby I'm good how good are you I'm so good well how good are you I'm like a 9.5 and I've been around the block maybe a few times more than you and I may look at you and say exactly you are a 9.5 but you think the scale goes from 1 to 10 you're a 9.5 on the scale of one to 100 you don't know what you don't know you got misplaced confidence you need some humility at the same time there are others of you let me just tell you right now there are many of you and I want you to hear this that you are strong you are talented you are capable you are chosen you are called and you are still hesitant because you don't know the greatness that is in you you need to grow and step into your confidence and what's amazing is the leaders that have it they're generally growing in both of these at the same time the very same time that we're becoming more confident we're also in the moment becoming more humble how does that work um I want to introduce to you my very best friend my bride of 31 years mother of my six children grandmother of my five grandchildren and 50 or so coming at the way my kids are reproducing Amy is with us today and I love you with all my heart you're my best friend so just so you know she's she's not just Amy but she's Gigi and I'm pops we got a lot of grand kids so we were out of town we were at a pool and uh we were enjoying ourselves like nobody knows us and we're at a pool and this young girl had been drinking and came up to us and she was like she wow you guys look amazing like look at you you you both of you like you're amazing confidence you look incredible like wow I stuck my stomach in I put my arm around her like you look amazing confidence she said I told my boyfriend I want to look just like you when I get really old at the same time confidence and humility how do you leaders grow at the same time in your confidence and your humility let me tell you how I want to encourage you to push yourself to the point of what I call leadership discomfort push yourself to the place where you're not really confident you have to do what it takes but as you grow in your confidence you're also humble as a student you're going to push yourself to the point of leadership discomfort because a growing leader is in a constant place of discomfort we're going to put ourselves in a place where you feel stressed well I'm not a very good speaker speak what's going to happen is you're going to get better and you're going to grow in your humility on story I felt stuck I I was losing confidence and at the same time I was probably losing humility because I'm the leadership guy I went to a um performance psychologist to help me and he said to grow in your humility and to grow in your confidence take on something new and unrelated to leadership very interesting he said for you I want it to be something High adrenaline and something that feels dangerous because for me that would dis connect my mind from always thinking about the church so I took up two things about two years ago and I've been progressing one is jiujitsu if you watch MMA that's what happens when people drop to the ground the other thing is I'm getting my private pilot's license and we'll test within this month if you look at that plane and it makes you nervous the good news is it's not as old as it looked it's only 48 years old which is way younger than me so it's totally safe I think right how many have seen the movie Top Gun Top Gun okay that's that's a Top Gun starter kit that's what that is that's a Top Gun starter kit so in Jiu-Jitsu if you if you look at me you might say the same thing I thought Craig you look like you're in decent shape you're probably as strong or stronger than most people that you would roll with uh you play college sports different you're a pretty good athlete you'll probably be just fine oh no I'm not little guys wrapped me up and made me see parts of my body I've never seen without a mirror before it's the A and at at the very same time now I know that there are people infinitely and indescribably more dangerous than I am and I am getting better and better and better and better and more humble and more humble and more humble and I took that lesson into my leadership at the church and I apologized to our team in humility because I had been overly confident and I had significantly misdiagnosed the current state of our organization and I'll tell you briefly what I did I told them please forgive me I'm sorry I have a lot of leadership experience in leading in good times or in slow times or in momentum I know how to do that I have been LED through significant crisis crisis you cons serve cast you act quickly decisively communicate frequently I know how to do that as the covid season started to um lesson I went back to what I call the the normal leadership mindset and what I I misdiagnosed completely there's nothing normal about this season nothing normal maybe since like World War II there's never been a time in history where we as leaders have had to lead out of a 2-year Global crisis this is not normal time this isn't good times this isn't bad times this isn't leading crisis this is leading out of Crisis and it's an entirely different mindset and so in humility Mr leadership podcast guy told the staff I missed it completely and when I saw what I missed my humility increased and my confidence increased and I'm leading like it matters to to grow in your confidence and to to grow in your humility let me just beg you push yourself to the point of discomfort and at the same time you're going to discover what you don't know humility and you're going to get better at what you do know confidence and that's the kind of leader that people want to follow number one leaders that have it they're both confident and they're humble number two the leaders that have it they're both driven and they're healthy they're both they're both uh if you're healthy like you're like healthy and laid back and don't like to work and not driven you're never going to get it right but if you're driven and you're not healthy you're never going to keep it here's what I've discovered and this is what's true for many of you right now many of you are completely overwhelmed you feel stressed you feel burned out uh you feel like there's too much to handle and many people are misdiagnosing what's going on I want to help you diagnose what's going on in your own leadership and I want to tell you right now you have to fix it there's nobody coming to rescue you when I was in a low point I was waiting for somebody to see there you struggling there's no life jacket you got to swim I looked around at the leaders in our organization and we came up with two uh three different standards of where people are falling and I want to show you and you might see yourself in one of these if you want to be driven and healthy there's number one is some of you you're doing too much like you're literally working too much you're doing too many things you may be outside of your gifts you need to get help you need to rep prioritize you need to cut you need to delegate if you're too controlling the reason you're too controlling is number one you're too proud or number two you're not growing in your leadership the best leaders learn to delegate some of you you're doing too much and if that's where you are you have to own it and say yes I'm doing too much a second place you might find yourself is you're not doing too much but you're not recovering well you're actually not working too hard but you're still exhausted you're still discouraged you're still feel like you're burning out if I ask you how are you You' say I'm I'm tired if you're where I'm from you'd say I'm tired how you I'm tired how you I'm tired tired working tired working hard for many of you you are not tired you're depleted and there's a difference if you're tired you could take a nap if you're depleted you don't need a nap you don't need a vacation you need to refill your problem is you're not dis connecting you're not unplugging you're obsessing about things that you can't control you might be in the wrong role or such you're not managing your time well you're not eating healthy you're not exercising you're not getting enough sleep you're not doing too much but you're not recovering well there's a third group of you and I'll say this um directly and kindly is you need to raise your tolerance for work and stress 40 hours is not too much 50 hours is probably going to take you're building your own sometimes a lot more than that and you you grow into it my uh my second daughter Mandy when she took a um uh Ministry B at the church she was almost crying dad is so much Dad is so much I can't do it all I can't do it I said Mandy I promise you three months from now you're going to look at this week and say it's an easy week two weeks later she called me back dad you're right I'm killing it what happened she's she grew in her tolerance for work and for stress bottom line is this and I'm not going to lie to you those who have it the leaders that have it that's something special they tend to bring a bit more there's intensity they work a lot but not at the expense of family they're both hard workers and they're healthy if you want to have it you need to be confident and humble you need to be driven and healthy some of you you've already got your One You're So driven but you're not healthy if that's you you have to fix it it's on you your people need it your organization needs it your the the those you're going to influence needs it you have to be both the third thing that leaders that have it I've discovered is this and this is so important leaders that have it they're both focused and they're flexible so important they're focused and they're flexible why does this matter if we aren't ruthlessly focused we'll never get it and if we aren't flexible we won't keep it I I'll tell you a story behind the uh the focus uh years ago in our church we broke away from the model of almost every church at least in my country when growing churches were doing more and more we did less and less fewer and fewer things we committed in the early 2000s to only do five things to do weekend worship experiences to do kids ministry to do student Ministry to do small groups and to do missions that's all we did you say like what about the other things that are in the Bible like marriage Retreats and conferences and Men's Ministry no women's ministry Sunday school vacation bible school no concerts Christmas pageants where the camel poops on the stage you know as it goes by youth camps where the teenagers play Truth or Dare in the back of the van and make out for the first time all for the glory of God on the way to Youth Camp none of this none of this none of this at all and we were ruthlessly unapologetically passionately focused and perhaps became the fastest growing Church in the US and then at some point we recognized maybe we had taken this a little bit far like literally we had taken it too far and so we loosened our focus and became more flexible rightly so what happened is we had some of our smaller churches that were not allowed to do the things that helped smaller churches reach more people and grow it was kind of a one size fits all model when actually our model had different sizes so we rightly became more flexible and we added some good things and then we added some more good things and we added some more good things and we woke up in the year 2022 and I started to say have we added too many good things maybe this is a problem we were focused and then we were flexible and suddenly we found ourselves in a place that maybe we doing too much what is one of the greatest enemies to your success I would say the greatest enemy of success is not a lack of opportunities but a lack of focus some of you your conference is done right now that's what you need that's it like that's your moment it's not a lack of what you can do it's like you got to determine what you should do it's Focus it's Focus it's Focus so what we're doing right now is I'm guiding our whole team next week when I'm with our staff two different layers of Staff the whole staff we're going through a very strategic process I talked about this in one of the podcasts if you want to dive into more detailed information you can just jot down episode number 79 um that's where we talk in detail about this we call it the four tiers of Effectiveness and I want to show those to you and I want you to consider applying them to your organizational leadership there are four tiers of Effectiveness and everything you do is going to fall somewhere in these tiers what we're trying to do is we're asking ourselves is what we're doing is our use of resources bringing about the best return if not let's change it tier number one is something that's absolutely Mission critical like for us we have to do church we have to preach we have to care for people it's it's tier one uh if we don't do this the boat doesn't float tier two um would be something that's very important and strategic in other words this really matters to us organizationally it's very very important to us but it's not critical if we didn't do it we could still be a nonprofit we could still be a great school we could still be a business it's important but it's not critical tier three is something that's meaningful but not essential we could do this we might do this but nothing significant would be lost if we didn't do it many of you what you're going to find is often times the vast majority of what you've absorbed into your culture is tier three it makes a difference but not a big one it gets a return but the return may not be worth the investment tier four many of us get stuck here when you look at your schedule your schedule may be filled up with tier four priorities that's something that's externally initiated and offer a lower priority often a lower priority if you look at your schedule and almost everything else is something that someone else asked you to do you're living in the tier four and you never change the world in tier 4 it's externally initiated it may be occasionally important but not often it's hey will you do my fundraiser will you pitch this product will you speak at my place one time someone Al asked me to do a funeral for their dog I considered it I wouldn't for a cat but for a dog maybe but any it was it was an external priority and what you're going to want to do is you're going to want to work through with your team and Define tier one we do them tier two will likely do most of them but if there's 800 things in your tier two those aren't tier two use your brain tier three we're going to be incredibly strategic very very selective tier four if we're really really focused is going to be a rare yes what we're going to do is we're going to be focused on what really matters and then we're going to be flexible when we have to change just because we can do something doesn't mean we should what is the essence of great leaders ership in many ways the essence of great leadership is choosing what not to do we're focused we're in the zone we know what we're called to do even Jesus when he came he said this is not why I'm here I didn't did not come to save them I came to save these people I didn't come to bring this we start I'm not doing this some of you the most spiritual thing you can do is not add something to your to-do list but create a to don't list we're focused and we're flexible to change as it matters my question is this do you have it if you find yourself in too many tier three or tier four things I want to give you an organizational question to take back to your team that can be a game changer this is what we're asking the question is this if you started over today there's some project you don't know if you should do it would you take on this project if the answer is no then why are you doing it We Don't Change the World by doing good things we focus on doing the best things speaking to leaders I'm wondering do you do you have it when people look at you do they say she has Integrity she has passion he has a vision there's a heart for people there's a there's a love for me I want to follow it leaders that have it they're they have confidence they have humility they have they have flexibility they they they also have Focus do you have it if you don't I'm going to ask you this like do you do you want it in 2008 when I wrote the book like I had it you might say I was full of it a lot of people said I was full of it you know like I I had it and it's hard to it's hard to admit but somewhere along the way like I lost it like I lost it and I'll speak from a pastoral standpoint I know many of you would have very very different standpoints but as a pastor I found that I was praying more publicly than I was privately I found somehow I started to care more about what people thought about me than what God thought about me I was performing for the approval of people rather than preaching from the approval of God that the phrase and again forgive me for those of you that this may be out of your spiritual context but for me the phrase that I felt like God showed me is that I'd become a fulltime pastor and a part-time follower of Christ full-time Pastor part-time follower I had it and I lost it and so like I said I I I got help um is not weakness to get help is wisdom it's wisdom it's wisdom and my my counselor got me in things that disconnected my mind helped me to grow on confidence and humility and I read a book I wrote in 2008 and needed to rewrite and go oh my gosh we were focused then and we're not we're not now we've lost it we've got we've got to tighten it up and then I was like way way way too driven and I was driving myself into the ground and doing it all for great intentions and believing I was being smart and I learned that I can have it for a while but I will lose it if I don't take care take care of my body my mind my mental health and I changed the rhythms and um it's it means more to me than I can tell you that in both real confidence and deep and profound humility I have that passion today when I wake up I think about doing what I'm uniquely created to do and I want you to have that what you do matters it matters so much I want you to feel it I want you I want you to I want you to I want you to I want you to step into it do you do you have it if you do you want to keep it if you don't do you want to get it step into it let's go let's go let's go let's go be be extreme don't let someone talk you into average press into the extremes be weird be all that I would invite you to do what I call Stepping across the third line line number one is hey I'm a leader and I'm in this enough to benefit from it give me my title give me my position give me my 401k and let me tell people what to do line number one line number two hey I'm a leader and I will I will I'll I'll give some I'll help some people I'll try to make the world better line number three you know it when you're over it and you know it when you're not my calling is to lead and love people I exist to make this world a better place it is not about me I do this for someone else's Glory I I exist to empower other leaders to push the organization forward to make to make a difference in the world step across the third line and give your whole heart to it find it live it feel it be it lead it so which one is yours we're going to get better we're going to get better which is your error I want to put the three up on the screen and I want you to pick yours and I'm going to ask you to stand for a moment can we put the three up on the screen our three big areas confident humble driven healthy focused and flexible for those of you who would say it's in the first category I need to grow in my confidence or my humility would you stand to your feet right now stand to your feet if that's you all of our location stand to your feet stand to your feet don't be too humble that you can stand your feet get some confidence get your bottom out that chair second one you may be too driven and you're not healthy in Balance stand stay stand stay standing stay standing stay standing everybody stay second one you're too driven or you're not healthy enough you're not driven enough stand to your feet those of you that recognize you're not really focused or you're too flexible would you stand to your feet I hope everyone in the room is standing to your feet which one dive into one get better in one focus on one when you look at most parts of the world let me tell you what are you going to see leaders you're going to see political division you're going to see poverty you're going to see mental health issues you're going to see see moral decline you're going to see violence and the breakdown of families and as a leader you may step up and say someone needs to do something about this hey it might as well be you what are you you're a leader you have influence step into it cell out to the mission step across the third line fall in love with it let it consume you love people lead well add value increase market share solve problems s make a difference meet needs serve people offer hope and change the world leaders get better get better get better rise up seek it feel it lead it give it away because that's what great leaders do and that's what you are well I hope that content was helpful to you and you want to remember that if you want to be a leader that has it it's good to start developing or looking for The rhythms of those paradoxes in your leadership and so as we close this episode let's just apply what we've learned and I'll ask you the same questions that I asked at the end of my talk of the three paradoxes is there one that you need to grow in the most maybe it's confidence Andor humility maybe you're too confident you need more humility or you're too humble and you need more confidence uh the next one is this do you need to be more driven or maybe you need to be more healthy what about Focus or flexibility of those three is there one that you need to develop in your leadership and then bring some people around you and just start working on it and asking them how can they help hold you accountable to get better in your leadership uh if you want to dive deeper into this content I actually have two additional podcasts on the paradoxes of great leaders and you can find information about that in the leader guide if you want to watch those episodes and I wrote a whole book on the subject the book is called lead like it matters seven principles for a church that last it is written from a Ministry perspective but the leadership principles are transferable what you want to do is you want to grow in your leadership if you'd like to get a copy of this book I want to give away some copies if you're listening on audio you can just hop over to YouTube and you can leave a comment on YouTube and just type in the comment section I want to lead like it matters I want to lead like it matters hit subscribe and if you do that um we're going to give away copies of of this book to um some that we draw if you found this content helpful it would mean the world to me if you would share and invite others to be a part I'm going to work really really hard to do my best to bring you content that helps you grow in your leadership why because your leadership matters and I believe today that you got a little bit better so keep on getting better because we know that everyone wins when the leader gets better [Music]