I forgotten the number but millions of men in this country that play video games all day long and live in their parents' home when they're 35 years old I mean it's the largest number since even higher than than during the Depression so there's no question some people will be seduced for that but I think ultimately it's just like what we've just experience the pendulum threw so far to blaming everybody else everything is the outside world nothing you know Merit doesn't matter we just threw a pendulum that you knew it had a swim back eventually and we hoped it would swing back sooner but it's beginning to swing back you can see it you can feel it it's a [Music] [Applause] [Music] c it's a crazy world it's a crazy world somebody got to have the same news [Music] so Tony Robbins I was going to introduce you by saying a man who needs no introduction and then I'm looking I'm looking at one of the books here the Holy Grail of investing and of course Carl ien said that a man who needs no introduction you do need no introduction but it must be an annoying way to start an interview for someone to say something like that what do you think I don't care it's good to be with you it's good to be with you we've been trying to do this for about four years I think and we didn't want to do it virtually schedules got crazy I'm thrilled to be here and I've organized this interview in a little bit more of a a granular way than I normally do which is just to sit down with someone but there were so many things that I wanted to talk to you about for so long but I thought the first thing is uh you've been very gracious to welcome you know me and my team to your home here and it seems obvious from the little bit I've seen and we're kind of in the what do you call this area the playroom the the little basement here the little the little basement okay the little basement but it it seems like an an embodiment of your life's work that there's a there's businesses happening here there's staff there's fun stuff like it's kind of everything that you are in some sense well we're I love living on the ocean and so I used to go to different place for work of course you know when things happened during covid they had to be home so fortunately I'd already built this and so you know this is kind of hidden we're actually below the ocean most people don't even know this exist it's crazy I didn't even know that around it cuz they said you can't go down because we have 25,000 square fet and I have separate offices over there separate from the home but I wanted to have the you know this kind of playroom where we have Golf and basketball and you know bowling and everything for the kids and so forth and the grandkids and so uh I went down here and I said the guy said it's impossible I said what do you mean it's impossible said you ever been to Atlantis you never been to script oceanography and he goes well never get approved I said well we live in a community where they're fans of mine that mayor is everybody else we'll get it approved took three years but it created this environment where you know you can come and play and do anything you want to do but yeah our home is our life is our mission so we you know we've got zooms going on all the time and interviews coming through here and business meetings I have 114 companies now so it's a it's a wild ride we're doing over8 billion in business I mean started with nothing so we're pretty thrilled about the kind of impact we're having in all these different Industries and I sense your days are basically scheduled to the end degree like is there is there a minute in your day that's a gap where you're like oh I guess I'll sit here and go like this there didn't used to be but there is and it's because uh you know I have a three and a half year old so I have five kids and five grandkids my oldest daughter's 50 my youngest daughter's three and a half uh and she's my priority so it's like I've got my plan but I have a lot of flex that I create in the plan so I can spend time with her the other day we're negotiating a deal with Paramount we're going to have our own um Tony Robbins Network our own channel on there it's not just a show and uh it was really important meeting him but she comes and knocks on the glass of of the master suite and she say daddy will you come fly a kite with me yeah and I'm like I'm looking at my time and the answer is yes so I go out there so I have like five minutes to clean up and run down to the meeting but it was worth its waiting so yes my daughter has given me that gift and I also take that time for my wife and our family um but it is a full life but I love it that way I love having so many areas that you can have an impact on that we get to focus on and so many beautiful people I have the privilege to partner with let's stick with that for just a moment so you imag you have a 50-year-old daughter and a three-year-old daughter I mean what is that due to your to your sense of parenting or perspective or do you find like oh I put that phase of life behind me and now it's just come rushing back I mean it's come rushing back but it's a great time time to do that you know I have I married a woman originally um my first marriage who had been married twice before me and she had kids from both of them so if you can imagine she was 11 years or 12 years my senior so I was 24 to about to turn 25 years old and I had a 17-year-old son instantly an 11-year-old daughter a 5-year-old and then went on the way so uh I had to grow rapidly as as a man as a father and I'm really proud of the job I did I'm proud of all my kids uh but you know it's different when you're this stage of life and you have so much more wisdom so much more experience um and you know the my daughter's having the most incredible life I mean she understands that the most important thing in life is we're here to contribute at three and a half she has plenty of responsibilities she's speaking Mandarin and and Spanish and English wow she's doing geometry at this stage uh but she also is just a kid you know she just likes play and go outside and taking the energy and so I really feel like she's got that balance and I don't know I could have given that balance before cuz I didn't know that balance for them myself so let's get into some of the uh some of the real the Tony Robbins stuff the real the real Tony Robins stuff well you've been a huge influ you've been an influence on me but you've been influence on many many I've told you privately many of my family members and helping my brother-in-law get through back pain and and a whole bunch of stuff but what do you think most people are sort of stuck on first like what what do you find generally when people come to your shows or when they reach out to you or say hi to you at the mall what what is like the first thing that most people seem to be hung up on before they can start moving forward in life I think most people have had dreams and goals in their life and they've had obviously as all of us have plenty of disappointments because you know you want to make God laugh to her your plans you know exactly but if the person that persists and keeps going can eventually break through you like all the studies showed that pessimists are much more accurate about their performance than optimists much more accurate but optimists are much more successful because they overvalue they think they did better than they did so they're willing to try it again they believe it happen and that persistence is what makes things work so I think the thing that stops people whether it's in their relationship or whether it's their business or their career or their body is the disappointments of the past and so what really shows up is fear you know the fear of failure the fear of success the fear of rejection the fear of the unknown there's so many fears but they all come down to two fears that everybody has we're all afraid we're not enough in some context not rich enough smart enough young enough old enough wise enough funny enough whatever it is attractive enough uh especially if we have that fear that we're not enough for someone we really want that love from and the deepest fear is that if I'm not enough I won't be loved and love is the oxygen of life I know it sounds corny but you know if a baby is born and you don't give them physical love they get what's called failure to thrive syndrome they actually physically die love is our evolutionary Advantage it's what makes us survive and so I look at most people and most people have so much fear still because of so many disappointments that they're afraid to get their hopes up of course if you don't get your hopes up if you don't commit to something if you don't give your all every time because you're afraid of failing you're not going to follow through so I think it's fear that stops people in any area but also what happens is you start to form a a limiting identity and this the thing I hope that your listeners or viewers will really consider I believe the strongest force in anybody's personality in the human personality is the need to stay consistent with how you've defined yourself we all have an identity for ourselves so you'll hear people say something like is there a difference between somebody who feels depressed and somebody who is clinically depressed well yes once you have the title clinically depressed you can go to one of those people and do you think clinically depressed people have happy moments you think they do I'm going to guess not really they can't they have happy moments but if you catch them when they go I'm not really happy it just looks like I'm happy yeah cuz our need to meet that definition if you don't know who you are you can't make a decision it's like when people talk about somebody turning in their 40s and you know having this you know midlife crisis what there really is it's an identity crisis is this really who I want to be is this really who I am so if I said to you do you ever smoke cigarettes never I smoked maybe cumulative one cigarette in my entire life every that I ever took yeah I was fortunate enough to have a similar pattern as you but I'll talk to some people that smoke cigarettes and they'll say no I I smoked for 10 years and I stopped and I'll Never Smoke again if I come to them and say would you know would you like a cigarette they don't go what brand is it right what do they say they go I'm not a smoker I'm not one of those m the way we Define ourselves what we are and what we're not controls every thought feeling emotion and behavior of our life so it works at all levels if you um if I set a thermostat in this room at 68 degrees and that represents your comfort zone your identity your comfort zone is not what you want it's what you're used to right so it could be 68 degrees is what you're used to in terms of intimacy or 68 degrees is how much Financial well-being or Freedom you're used to or security you're used to might not be a lot might be a little it's not your goal it's what you're used to well once that's your comfort zone once that's your identity if the temperature in this room drops from 68 to 65 to 62 to 60 at some point the heaters kick on because the computer says whoa whoa whoa you're a 68 degre you're not a 60 deger this is no good and you feel pressure the heaters kick on and drive you back up to where you're supposed to be and most people listening probably had times where got so bad you finally said not another day another moment I'm changing this now this relationship this thing on my body whatever but what most people don't realize that happens the other other side as well if you're 68 deger and you start doing better than you expect you get momentum you start to crush it you start to go 80 degrees 90 98 Degrees suddenly the computer inside goes what the hell are you doing you're not a 98 deger you're a 68 degre right and then the first thing happens the heaters stop you lose your drive and then if that's not enough the air conditioners kick on to help you sabotage to get right back down to where you think you deserve to be so is it a constant battle do you think between those two things not running too cool and not burning too hot that that even for someone like you that's sort of a master at this you have to play Within that to some well you have to keep expanding your identity yeah otherwise you get stuck when people say they're stuck it's because they're only using a part of their capacity or part of their brain so what I like to look at is how do you expand your identity you do things that violate your old identity that you know that's why I do a firewalk or we took people skydiving it's like if I get myself to do that thing I once thought was difficult or impossible my brain goes then what else can I really do that seemed to be difficult or impossible for me I remember when I was um I was 16 years old just about turned 17 and my I had four different fathers and my mom was a volatile person great human being but when she mixed prescription drugs with alcohol it was pretty painful and disastrous so I remember she kicked out another one of my father's and then she decided one night that Christmas Eve that I was on my father's side and so she kicked me out my dad went back to Chicago on his own she he didn't know I got kicked out and she got my 1960 Volkswagen I did 40 bucks a week but was working as a janitor so I took buses to a place in Pasadena California San Marino and I would work on these two banks in the middle of the night still in high school cuz I wasn't paid by the hours paid by results I could do two Banks I get paid well come back home get up on three or four hour sleep and go to school well I would take buses well one night I finish at 2 in the morning and I go out and I'm waiting at the for the bus on this Main Avenue and you know it's 2: in the morning there's no cars and I'm waiting and waiting and 2:15 and 230 right around 230 somewhere in that range a car drives rolls down his window goes hey buddy didn't you know there's a bus strike and I'm like a bus strike you've been working hard and I'm working like that's I don't have anybody I can call I don't have anybody can pick me up everything got stuff and I'm about 16 17 miles from home so I ran true story Dave wow I ran but the way I ran was I didn't know what I was doing at the time i' read a book called The Magic of Believing by Claude M Bristol this old book and it talked about how to condition your mind and it talked about incantations not affirmations you go I'm happy I'm happy I'm happy and your brain goes BS I'm not happy happy but where you use your body your voice everything until your whole nervous system believes it and experiences it so I started doing these really simple ones first I was angry I'm I'm going to show her it was all about anger with my mom but you only can run on anger so long you run out of how many miles does that that probably last the mile yeah you know and then I started going every day and every way I'm getting stronger and stronger every day and every way and I would do these incantations out loud while I was running I ran 16 miles I had never run three miles in my life I was beat up as you might imagine completely had shin splints and everything else but it I found a part of myself that I still use to this day I found this identity that will not stop that will find the way that will push through and we all have it but it usually takes something really intense to bring it out that's why you know people don't want problems I think I always tell people the biggest problem people have is that they think they're not supposed to have any but problems call forth in us if we don't give up they cause us to grow in the end you've you've accomplished enormous enor of things in your life you and I both many people have we both have but it's like what you get will never make you happy yeah who you become will make you very happy very sad and that's an identity and if you can find an identity and then by the way that's where everybody sells in a product Nike sells you know you're an action person just do it those shoes have nothing to do with it they're just selling you in a feeling and linking it to their product but when you really do that to yourself when you really expand your identity your life changes completely what used to be hard to do is easy how often do you fall out of that that flow uh do I have days where I frustrated or pissed off or overwhelmed of course but I don't stay there I mean it's I would stay there for you know a month before or weeks before or hours before now like I have a 190c 180c rule you know it's like I got three minutes to get my together and change that thing and I've done it so often it's like a muscle you know it's not like I'm so great it's just you use the muscle over and again it get strong once it's strong you know you tend to use it so it's not very often it takes um if something really knocks me off my game I go ah worthy opponent I finally got a worthy opponent it's been a long time since something's knocked me off my game but um is that usually a personal thing for you or is it a professional thing for you like what what sort of hits you harder well I think for everybody personal is probably more than professional it happens but I'm pretty blessed in that area at this stage I mean if I got went back 10 15 20 years it'd be different but my wife and I have been together 25 years I mean I love her more than I could ever describe in words I love her more today than I first met her my kids my family I mean that's my dear friend friends I have what I call chosen family people that are my dear dear friends uh and we know some we have some mutual people that we really care about together so to me life is about relationships if the quality of relationships is extraordinary your relationship with whatever you believe the universe your creator your relationship with yourself your relationship with your loved ones your relationship with those that you want to serve if those are strong it's pretty hard not to have a great quality of life how much of of all of this do you think is connected to societal Trends so for example right now I've sensed over the last couple months sort of post election that there's really feels to be like a renewed spirit in America like people are less fearful at least in my little circles there's a feeling like oh America could come back we could feel good about all of this stuff and I think that actually really starts scaling at some point and I and I think that this is going to be my first interview of 2025 which is sort of why I wanted to do it right now it's like if we can use that man that's Rocket Fuel to change everything I agree with you not everybody some people think it's the we have to acknowledge that right depends on certainly to some extent where people are politically but I'm an independent I voted on both sides and I see as you said a lot more optimism I see people who were on the left actually supporting Donald Trump who were talking about him being evil before because they want the country to change and I think you know there's an old phrase from a good book called the good book it says without a vision people perish and if you ask what was the vision of America for the last four years even eight years it's not been clear the greatest presidents we have brought a vision right whether it's Kennedy talking about we're going to put a man on the moon and returning back to the Earth or Reagan and the city on the hill you can pick any great president and they had a vision for the country and I think what's happened is there's a vision of change and we're we're so dissatisfied with where it is that there's a surge of enthusiasm to say let's go shift this thing we can do it we can make it happen I think people are also getting tired of an identity of America being a terrible place when America's made up of so many great human beings me we've made plenty of mistakes like every country in the world but I think we've done extremely well over the overall history and we want to we want to be better but I think that optimism is real for a large number of people because it's new it's always easier when it's new the question is will hold up two years from now and I think you have to get a momentum here that people then start to say yeah that vision is being realized if people see Real Results then I think that optimism will grow and people will take more action but um if if they don't execute that's a different game so that's all about execution I always tell people knowledge is not power do you execution trumps knowledge every day of the week do you think that maybe some sort of inverse relationship between when things are going well and maybe when your message resonates more because if something isn't going well then people you know sort of at a meta level then people need more of this versus if it's going well then they can kind of sit back a little bit well you know when people analyze who comes to my events you know it's like you know we do one we're doing event here in January have over a million people come right and they come and try to analyze you know who are the demographics of it and they're everywhere I mean we do have 193 countries every country in the world simultaneously over a million people and they're all have one thing in common one thing it's not age it's not economics it's not political it's hunger when people are hungry they change their life so sometimes people get hungry because things are really rough sometimes people get hungry because they have a birthday with a zero on it past 40 you know sometimes people are hungry because they're going to a divorce so sometimes pain makes you hungry some people are hungry and that's why they're successful they never lose that hunger if you look at somebody you know like uh you know Richard Branson you know Sir Richard Branson Richard friend and I mean he's as hungry today and as late 60s as he was when he was 16 and starting you know virgin and a crypt you know just he's got that same hunger Hunger to do more to be more to create more so yes sometimes painful things make people pay attention more but no matter what the season is people are looking to make improvements in their life and I'm I'm looking for the person that's hungry that's who I can serve if you're in that lukewarm Middle where it's not that bad not that good I'm probably not the right guy for you but if you're ready to say it's time take it to another level I've spent a lifetime getting skills on financial skills to turn it around emotional skills relationship your physical body the areas of life that really matter most have been my obsession for at this point this is my 48th year doing this believe it or not started when I was two I'm only on this Earth for 48 years so that's that's quite some time so so what do you make of the person that maybe is just kind of lukewarm but kind of okay with it like somebody that's just like I've got whatever it is I've got I'm not GNA push that hard I'm just gonna kind of do it my way and and that's it and not make any ripples or whatever I you know the the oldest human story is I'm sure you know is the story of the hero right the hero's journey and so if you analyze all the stories it's been done many scholars have done this uh you see that's the story that stands out and what that story starts out with is take the wizard to pause a simplistic one right here's Dorothy her life is just fine it's kind of black and white it's kind of okay it's kind of you know she got good people around nothing wrong and then she gets a call to Adventure the called Adventure doesn't sound like a called Adventure it sounds like somebody your family is diagnosed with a major disease or you lose you know covid and they shut down your business or you're in a position where all of a sudden you know your relationship is breaking up if the call to Adventure is something that wakes you up so you don't just settle because the one thing I believe there's two things that are laws of life everything in the universe grows or it dies and everything contributes or eventually it's eliminated by Evolution those aren't my laws those are laws of life so and when people are happy is when they're growing people say you know what does it take to be happy said the word is progress even if you don't achieve it if you're making progress you feel alive after you achieve it you feel good for how long a week a month a year probably not a year right because we're meant to keep growing we're meant to keep expanding so that we get called eventually those people will be called now not everybody takes the call some people fight the call she kind of fought the call tried to hang on but then you know circumstances rip her into a new environment and when you go to that on this new Adventure it's full of uncertainty that's why people avoid it I'd rather deal with the devil I know than the devil I don't know but that's where all your passion is found in uncertainty if you know what's going to happen when it's going to happen how it's going to happen pretty soon you're bored silly you're comfortable but you're bored silly you're not alive so life tends to get something to wake us up and then when you go on the journey ironically you meet new friends right you develop new mentors and you get to the point of no return where you can't turn back you've burned your boats and you have to go forward and because of that go through ordeals you go through battles but you eventually slay the dragon and you come home the hero of your own life and you can share something now because you've actually lived it and then as soon as you get really comfortable it happens again right so that well that's an interesting notion that that it then repeats itself throughout that that seems like a an unmovable force in the universe too the repetition always calling us to grow and when we grow we have more to give like I am I'm going to be 65 shortly blows my mind I started when I was 17 doing this so it's like 48 years of experiences at this point I I can do more with my pinky I have so much experience not that I'm so smart it's just patterns if you spent that many years traveling obsessed with what's the difference in people I hope I found some differences by this point that are meaningful and they can work and of course I have so I can do more now I can create more now because I grew and there's nothing I'm teaching that I didn't I wasn't like a genius I figured out because I had problems I had to solve or I met somebody that was brilliant and I said I don't want 10 years to figure that out they took 10 years let me figure out what they're doing let me model them let meaps decades into days if possible and that's been kind of the moniker of my life it's interesting because one of the just as you were saying this I mean I think one of the things I'm most proud of in my life is that I've gotten to sit down with so many incredible people like you and integrate some of that into my life all the time and then it helped me grow businesses and work with people who I love and do all these things so so it's real and it's true and I I guess it's just hard making people understand that you have that power well I think you gotta if you wait for life to do it that's one approach another way is to say am I on the path or not the path what's the path the path of progress the path of progress is what's going to make you fulfilled and happy nothing else will what you get won't do it it'll get boring but if you are growing if you're feeling like you're becoming more experiencing more and because that you can give more you're going to feel totally alive but I look at it this way I go the first step to getting on the path know if you're there is do you know what your driving Des desire is if you awoken your hunger for something if you want to change your body your mind your emotions your relationship your business your economics whatever it is you got to get hungry you got to get crystal clear on a vision more than where you are now that would excite you and and put you on fire then the second step is you got to tell the truth you got to find and tell the truth meaning find the truth of what's kept you from doing this in the past and there's only a few things there's fear everybody has fear there's limiting beliefs or limiting story like I've tried everything and nothing ever works the minute you develop a belief a sense of certainty about how life is it limits you if it's a limiting belief is it some other emotion is it overwhelm is it stress is it a lack of skill something you need or is it a habit that just gets in the way those five are usually the fundamentals that what kept you from making progress so once you know what you really want first step in the path you find and face the truth you create a little map A Massive Action Plan couple things you're going to do to make progress immediately not waiting till it's perfect and then you got to do what's hard you got to slay the dragon right you got to go get the skill or you got to overcome the fear or you got to push through the thing that stops you and then the other three steps are easy then all it is is having a daily practice measuring because if you don't measure you won't keep getting better and then celebrating enough and then it'll happen again what's your next desire but that's the path if people want to make progress it starts with just getting clear on what you want because most people Dave when you ask them what they want they tell you what they don't want right like I don't want feel this soon anymore I don't want to go through this crap anymore I don't want to have to experience this anymore well where focus goes energy flows you know if you keep focusing what you don't want you get more of it or or they just say I want a big house or something like that but that's not really that's not really a thing you know I was uh privileged to go on tour with Jordan Peterson for a year and a half and one of the things because he would talk about slaying the dragons often and one of the questions that would come up in Q&A I'm curious your take on this a lot of people would say Okay I I found the dragon and I'm in the process of slaying it or I'm doing it now whatever the thing is but but they were having trouble letting go of the way they were when they were fearful of the Dragon the identity and and so are there some tricks that they can sort of really use to to let go of the stuff when you're on the path well there's a couple of things um you've got to learn how to manage your emotions right uh most people will say to me I just I just don't feel like I can do I don't feel if I waited till I felt like I could do something or I felt good I wouldn't have done 90% what I've done in my life right but somehow we have this illusion and young people today especially in college have taught these BS beliefs like everybody's supposed to make you feel good that if they say something you don't like and you're offended that's their problem and they need to be corrected as opposed to like I need to make life on my terms I need to grow I need to expand I don't need a trigger warning so that I don't react I need to get rid of my triggers that's my responsibility I mean I think Jordan and I both agree on one thing which lots of things but one of them is it's 100% responsibility gives you Freedom most people want freedom but you can't have it as long as some someone else is making you feel this way someone else is making you act this way and so the answer to your question like how do I get past those limiting thoughts beliefs or identities is you got to condition yourself you know there's silly metaphor but it's a true one you know you go to a circus and they take a baby elephant and they got a little chain around them and they put it and they drive the little steak down in the ground and for a baby elephant they tug around they try for a long time and eventually they learn I Can't Get Loose well they do that for them for years and now they're a giant elephant with one move movement they could pull down the entire big top but they don't even try because they're so conditioned it's like that's who I am that's my identity I I'm not person able of doing that so to do something again that's outside your identity something that says I could never do this but I'm going to do it anyway that's what breaks up the whole system and one way I did it back in those days were these incantations because three things determine how you feel in this moment if you're listening right now at home and you're bored or you're excited or you're curious or whatever feeling you're having number one is how you're using your body right now if your body is like this or like this and you're watching you're listening you're going to have a different experience than if your body's like this if you're leaning forward like this anything you do with your body changes your biochemistry so I show people what are the movements that actually change you into a state you feel good if someone's depressed what's their body like if if you see somebody depressed what's where's their head you're going to be slouched over slouch where's their head where's their head it's probably now breathing full or shallow would you say breathing full or shallow oh shallow shallow talking loud or quiet oh quiet of course fast or slow probably talking slow that's right how do you know that CU you practice this at some point I guess I've done this a couple I've all done this a few times but if you take that same person and you radically change their body the shoulders back you change the pace or the tempo of their voice instantaneously their biochemistry changes it's not a a BS positive thinking element so I start with the body and the second thing that controls you wait I have to interr I liter I feel warm right now I kid you not I feel warm it's not warm in this room but just I think that's an example of what you're talking about why do you think you feel warm right now because I think you're emanating something that's very true and right and it's having some sort of reaction in my body I've had this a few times in interviews that I've done or sometimes someone will say something deeply deeply true and and it seems like the room shifts for me a little bit and I'm fully having that right now that's not you're a very energetic person so you would feel that for sure that's really wonderful the the second part think of it as a triangle there's the physical body putting yourself in the right physiology what controls your whole life is what you focus on like people don't experience life they experience the life they focus on what's wrong is always available so is what's right so whatever you focus on you feel like most people I'll say that if you ever thought of something you were freaked out about you're worried about constantly thought about constantly felt sick to your stomach and it never happened every raised their hand hav't done this dozens of times when are you going to learn so it's like learning to change your focus and then the third thing you do is to change the language you use the words you use create meaning meaning creates emotion our entire life is based on where we live emotionally you could say I have all this int you could have a billion dollars and if every day the emotions you consistently come back to is feeling frustrated and pissed off your life's restrain pissed off if you have a beautiful family and they love you and you love them and you got great health but every day you sit in worry your life is not about family it's not about love it's about worry so our emotions are controlled by meaning and meaning is controlled by this triangle what you're doing your body your focus and your language one word can change your biochemistry in a heartbeat the difference between is this person challenging me are they dissing dissing me are they coaching me are they loving me if you think they're loving you you're going to respond very differently you think they're dissing you right there's a different biochemistry there's a different response the words we choose also create that so incantations when you're using your body with full intensity and you're focused on something and using language that starts to condition your mind and body that's one way to change identity as well as powerful as thing I know and it sounds overly simplistic it sounds like just positive thinking BS but it's not if you're doing it physically if you do it over and over in repetition IT wires you most people are living the life they're living because of their beliefs and their beliefs are just things they've heard over told themselves are heard over and over and over again experienced over and over again so they say that is what is but if you give people a new experience I always tell people a belief's a poor substitute for an experience if I give you an experience you think you know what China is and I take you to China Everything Changes right now you have an experience our beliefs are substitutes I always look to try to create an experience that will transform people and incantations believe it or not create an experience inside you do you think that the we're sitting here obviously where there's some incredible Sports memorability here and you've been around a lot of athletes and you have some other incredible sign things and all this stuff it's like do you think athletes that are at the prime of their ability that that they're sort of in intuitively getting this properly like when you see someone whether it's play baseball at the highest level or basketball or box or whatever it is do you think that that's just something that they're in some ways sometimes doing without even knowing some of them probably know it I think someone like Michael Jordan probably really knew yeah or Steph CER anybody like that anybody who's the best in the world knows that they know that there's only so much you can do physically that that it's really a mental game a psychological game the mo the greatest sports athletes they're there the difference is going to be 80% psychology and 20% mean and you know all these rings are from National Championships Major League Baseball soccer um the LA Dodgers the Golden State Warriors these are all teams couple of I own a piece of but I've coached all those teams I work with all them and when you work with like a Steph Curry yeah you start to realize like he's got the most incredible psychology but he drives it every day with experience you know people look at him and you see him make a a shot from almost half court and he turns he doesn't even look he turns around and Just Smiles like he already knows it's in you know swish right choose on his you know mouthpiece and people go how do he do that well you go work with Seth he makes 500 shots every day 7 days a week Bar None that's 3,500 shots a week that's 168,000 shots a year that's 2.5 million shots Plus in practice in 15 years just of his professional career so he could take 16,000 shots and make 3,400 and be the greatest 3point shter in history see people are rewarded in public for what they practice in private yeah and people don't realize that so that practice also makes him have certainty inside and if you're talking about mindset certainty is what gets people to follow through when you see somebody coming down that lane with with full force like LeBron there's zero uncertainty whether he's going to put that ball in the basket right and so that that level of certainty is what sets anybody apart that certainty is psychology but it's built by also doing the hard work just like we talked about earlier so what about some of the shortcuts now because you know there's a big thing with people losing weight through OIC and some of these other things and I think there's probably some argue arguments you can make for people in certain health conditions for it but but in essence what you're saying is the work is the key thing here so changing your diet working out more doing all those things how do you balance something like that sort of science which you're obviously a man of science versus the actual work part and and the shortcuts around all those things I I think that's art not science right but for me um like for exemp for example I have some friends that have done it and there's some people that were massively over with that know that did it I think it's great because it jump starts them it makes it makes them believe it's possible helps them to change their patterns initially but as we all know there's some real severe side effects that can happen for people and you can't do it forever at some point your body starts to reject it right your pancreas starts to get worn out so no not many people are talking about those side effects yet so I think it's a good jump start for people it makes it possible for them but in the end they're going to have to develop new patterns if they're going to have something that's sustainable and so I look at uh you know I wrote a whole book called life force all about every form of regenerative medicine I I brought up wovi and all these other ones that are there so I think everything has its place it depends on where you are so I'm not like hardcore like you got to do it all yourself like no if there's some shortcuts that you think are useful great just make sure you understand what the cost of those shortcuts are if you try to sustain them so I read life force and I told you that and you helped me with my brother-in-law's back stuff and who had debilitating I mean barely could walk for a long time and he's significantly better now how how hopeful are you and I should thank you for him because it's like he really and and for my whole family um but how hopeful are you that now we do seem like we're caring about health more and that it feels like regulations are going to change and some of the things you wrote about in that book that you really can't do in the United States now but we know they're doing overseas that that is now going to start changing I'm very hopeful about that because you know right now the pharmaceutical industry is a very useful industry but it also has terrific side effects and you know Bobby Kennedy's a good friend of mine I was his first choice to run for VP had Cho was not to do that um but I've stayed obviously in touch with him and his core message he's been bastardized by so many people in bad mouth but his core message is let's get the poisons out of the food and let's just make sure everything is tested to be safe and so much of what we take for granted being tested is not including the vaccines from many of our kids so I think it's really important we look at that but I think I was with Bobby and Dr Marty McCary who's head of FDA and um who else was there and we had um um uh I'm trying to think of the third person's there oh Dr Oz all three of us were together a few weeks ago and talking about what they're going to do along stem cells and some of these other other opportunities I experienced for example I'm a biohacker so I've always looked for Cutting Edge I have to I get to on stage and hold a crowd of 15 or 20,000 people for four days and nights for 12 hours a day when they wouldn't sit for a three-hour movie these days someone spent $300 million on and some got dragged there so but I got to turn them around so that takes an enormous amount of energy so I have all these biohacks that I've learned to do to make myself stronger fitter and more more more able to do things but I tore my rotator cuff years ago I was going down following a 24-year-old snowboarder and I wasn't 24 and I didn't have his skill and I thought I broke my neck I I I did a jump that he did only I didn't do it the way he did it and I tore all my road Trier cups severely well so I own some sports teams have some of the best doctors in the world they all surgery surgery surgery I was like before we do the surgery you know how long's the recovery time you know three to six months can it happen again well often does what about stem cells and Universal response from people I respect people I know was oh they can't do anything so I was like before I go do this let me go investigate stem cells that's how it started for me and I talked to a friend of mine I was really well connected who's the smartest stem cell person in the world and he told me this guy named Dr Bob herui who's partner of mine in writing the book and I didn't know it's like saying you know if you want to learn basketball let me audition LeBron James is he's he's the guy anyway the bottom line is he said they're right your stem cells after of the age of 40 aren't going to do squat for something that torn but he said if we get you 4 day old stem cells he said we're talking about they come from things that are thrown away right mothers are born they throw away the placenta that's what it comes from it's not fetal tissue he said if we get you those he said I really believe it'll heal you but he said you have no downside he said if you're not you can always go back for the surgery I went and I did stems I went place in Panama because you can do it here unfortunately and I did four days just an IV and a couple injections first day I felt really tired second day I woke up with no pain in my spine I've had spinal stenosis for 15 years no pain in my spine and no pain in my shoulder after 3 Days To they find not have an MRI my shoulders is perfect now how do you explain that well the stem cell so I got invited by the pope to come speak the pope believe or not every two years has this conference where he invites all the people involved in regenerative medicine stem cells and so forth and I said I'll do the closing ceremony but I want to come for all four days so for four days I met the number one doctors in the world medicine I met people that were sent home to dive every kind of cancer disease you could imagine who were completely turned around I'm like how come people don't know about this and I found out that on average from the time there's a breakthrough to the time your clinician knows about it actually starts to use it is on average 18 years 18 years so I said I'm write a book about this so that's why I got excited about it so stem cells exosomes but also there's things right now that you can protect yourself with so many people develop Cancers and so many people develop aneurysms today even young people it's happening greater than ever postco as I'm sure you know we have these turbo cancers well the I built a company that does monitors we have five different locations the Us and other people do it too but you can go in today and if we monitor your body we you know do an MRI of your body and we do like there's a thing called a Grail test a Grail test will show us 50 different cancers that we test for the reason people die of cancer is we if you catch it at stage four which is where a lot of these found because we don't have tests for them right right if you get to stage four your chance of dying you know the Cancer Society talks about is 80% I prefer 20% chance of living but their point is wellmade if you go to stage one it's like 99.9% chance of living right so 14% of the people that come for scans just see their Fitness and their health discover they have a major issue I have a partner we're building a group called The Estates where people can go and have these luxury experiences and have this kind of medical treatment and support for stem cells and so forth all over the world staran he built SLS hotels and mandre and people like that and when I first met him he had this Vision he I said why don't you come through and do our testing and he did and he had two aneurysms one was so bad that his doctor saw it and took him to hospital immediately and said you wouldn't make it to the hospital if this happened so you got to know what's going on and so we have some tests now like a another one's called the CCTA test it's a CT test that goes through your whole body and uses you know Ai and it can literally see and tell you digitally show you every single vein every in your body how much plaque there is whether it's actually going to be blocked or not at a level of precision that's never been done by humans in history and so what's really cool about it is it'll tell whether it's loose material which can break off and create a heart heart attack or aneurysm or whether it's calcified if it's calcified it's healthy we had a guy with a thousand calcium score if you don't know what that means it means most people think this guy's going to die couldn't get life insurance the life insurance company changed their view because of the CTA test because they found out it was all calcifi guys totally healthy I took my 80 he was 81 years old uh father-in-law he was a guy that you know had a lumber business really physical guy but as you get in your 70s and 80s people saying well you're getting older and I could just see him his his mindset starting to change and they told me about the CCTA test and I said Dad I said I'm going to go to this test I'm sure we've got some stuff in us but I said then they'll show you what they did to clear it out there's some real breakthroughs but why don't we go do this together so we go do this my father-in-law is perfect his veins are absolutely perfect he has nothing to worry about he's been worried all this time zero worries whatsoever cuz what he does have is calcified so he comes out there and they have this hip problem and there's this technique that they can do uh that opens up whatever muscles have been tight in a matter of seconds it's called um it uses water and hydration and so forth to open up the factors so they did that and so now he's walking perfectly his cells are perfect we get on the plane to come home and I'll never forget he sits across me he goes you know Tony goes you know I don't know about those people talk talk about live to be 120 but you know my hip's perfect my heart's perfect my veins are perfect I think I could live like the late 90s you know and his entire perspective changes so we need to test where you are and then you need to see some of the tools that are becoming available that can help you regenerate that most of the greatest athletes in the world are taking advantage of do you want to live to 120 no I I don't know where it's come from but I have a daughter as I told you and I I figured 92 for some reason is stuck in my head is a time where I know I can get there believe I can get there easily in fact I just looked up my based on all you know an AI test what I'm supposed to live to and based on where I am right now at 65 they say 93 so if I can live longer than that great I think that's a full life but I'm not obsessed with the length of life I'm obsessed with the quality of life I want to have an extraordinary quality of life and I want to continue to serve and be able to enjoy and have all my faculties that to me is the most important thing do you ever get overwhelmed at this point I mean how many businesses did you say you have 114 so 114 you're this this is basically a business your home I mean you're doing all of these things you're fitting in the interviews all these things I mean do you ever get that moment where you're like damn like this is like how do you give everything to everything because I I have no doubt that you do I do but I do it in segments wherever I'm there I'm there 100% I'm here with you 100% I'm not thinking about what it was right before this or what I'm do right after this um and then I also have everything organized by categories like my family is a category of my life my body's a category of my life my various businesses I have in categories and so I have outcomes or goals for all those but I also I teach business uh because I've you know I had no business background done pretty well we're doing 8 billion I'm I'm going to grow it I'm sure to 15 to 20 as the target I've got some great Industries where we're number one in those Industries with some that are brand new so there's a great diversity what I get to do but I used to be a business operator business operators are always stressed because you're doing everything yourself making all your choices I learned to become a business owner I learned how to bring VIs and strategy and hire the very best people and give them clear outcomes get us aligned on a purpose and then turn them loose and then step in strategically so I run you know out of all those companies I run about a dozen more actively the others I'm just strategic in and I come in when they're necessary and then some of them I don't need much of them and we own one of my businesses we own 80 different private Equity firms and they're some of the best you know in the world you know so um these are hundred billion $50 billion 20 billion private Equity firms and we own the firm a piece of the firm so we don't we get the 2 and 20 we run that now I do that for other people I show them how they can do that so whatever I learn I get excited about how I can take it somewhere else but overwhelmed I can get overwhelmed just by the demands at times but it's a brief like I said I got give myself my 180 seconds and time to kick back in gear there's there's no there's no good in just being overwhelmed overwhelm comes if if people listen to get overwhelmed and a lot of people do the number one way to get overwhelmed is what I call stacking so have you ever overreacted to someone your kid or somebody like that you know and you feel bad about I would imagine once or twice once or twice you weren't reacting to what the kid did something else always you reacted that it happened again it's the stacking well most of us we take experiences um challenging difficult experiences we think of one after another after another and then we're overwhelmed you can also do the opposite you can consciously which I do every morning this is how I do it I do something that I call priming I prime my brain it's not a meditation because I found sitting and not thinking is not something I'm really good at and I don't know many people that frankly are right but instead what I do is I do these three three minute pieces a little more than three minutes and what I do is I focus on for the first three minutes everything I'm grateful for because gratitude is the antidote to the two emotions that mess most people up mess up your relationship mess up your business and that's fear and anger you can't be angry and grateful simultaneously you can't be fearful and grateful simultaneously so I don't do it in some phony I'm grateful grateful I think of three specific things in my life that I feel really grateful for I usually find a little one like today was the wind in my hair was outside another one was smile on my daughter's face when she was doing her ballet yesterday and she was so proud of herself you know I think of two or three things I for a minute I experience them in my body like I'm there not like watching a you know someone going down the you know a roller coaster there thinking like you're in the front seat and that changes your biochemistry and now I do that every morning and start for 3 minutes then 3 minutes of kind of a blessing or a prayer for the people I love and then 3 minutes I focus on what I call three to thrive what are three things I want to achieve and instead of like hoping they're going to achieve I see them feel them celebrate them as done whole thing's done in 10 minutes because if I say do something for 20 minutes you tell me you don't have time but if you don't 10 minutes for your life you don't have a life and I do that every morning so it's the opposite is that literally the first thing you're doing every morning I I usually go on the hot water and cold water first I go on freezing cold water first because I look at that as a discipline um everybody does it now but I've been doing it for yeah you were way ahead on that you had the one Outdoors under I'm glad everybody's doing it now but the but the reason is I don't for me it's not only the physical benefit like it flushes your body obviously your immune system everything gets pushed but uh blood flow but I also I don't hesitate it's like a mental discipline it's you know windy outside today it's a little chilly out there it's like it doesn't matter I don't go up there and go well let me see when I'm ready it's like I tell my brain we go we go right then I've been doing it for so many years that when I tell my brain something else we do it 's no negotiation within myself so I do that first right then I do my priming and and by the way if people want to do priming then go to tonyrobbins.com for priming I made a video it's free and you can do it but it's 10 minutes and in 10 minutes you're stacking the good and then your biochemistry changes now when stuff happens it's hitting on you being resourceful instead of hitting on you being frustrated or pissed off or stacked by all the things that have been overwhelming or stressing it do you think that we all inherently know most of this and it's really about unlocking it I I think I think most of what I do I either learned from somebody else who was successfully doing it or figured it out and I think most of it's Common Sense personally but common sense is not too common yeah because we get so caught up in our conditioning like the elephant right we don't use our brain fully so part of what I do is create environments where people they're when your energy is high when the energy is super high your brain and everything functions in a peak State when it's really low and most people don't even realize it's low cuz post people's energy as a whole has dropped because they live at home they work at home they're an environment at home they they're in their pajamas doing their business half the time the type of thing and so what happens is there isn't that pickup of energy and so if you measured your energy 0 to 10 and if you don't measure something you can't manage it so 10 is Unstoppable Energy Zero is dead you know where most people want to ask on audience where were you yesterday during the day before you got to this event and they're somewhere between four and you know 7 and I'll always say to him would you ever date a five you know right would you ever own to work for a six I like what the hell are you doing that so then you train people how to change that energy State when your energy is high you will do these things naturally that I'm talking about was Co then like particularly frustrating for you as as the public person you are in that I was just before you walked in I was watching a five minute video of the prep that you do to do these shows and the amount of I you may know the numbers you jump 11,000 times and it creates this much pressure and but like that you were doing these live with these people feeding off the energy they're giving you the energy to the amount of time that you clap I don't know what the exact number was but it was just you've broken down all of these numbers but then you have to do it virtually and you've done incredible things I I've been to the studio here with the with the zoom wall and the entire thing but to remove the personal like face-to-face version of that versus someone's now sitting in their chair at home maybe in their pajamas listening to you yeah I never would have believed it was possible cuz I'm used to doing stadiums and you know people been doing an event no it's like it's like a rock and roll car concert I mean Pat Riley you know who owns a piece in Miami um you know he said to me one time he went to one he's like this is like the NBA Championship but he goes it's like for four days it's like every minute he goes I've never exper the only time I've experienced this kind of energy and that's really what it's like otherwise you wouldn't be able to go four days and could happen right so yes I I didn't think it was possible but you know the governor of California's team calls me and says we're about to do an event in March of 2020 and says oh by the way we're really sorry we changed the rules you can put 100 people in the stadium where I had 14,000 people and it's like two weeks before I'm like screw you right fine we're going to Vegas they'll never shut down Vegas right so a week before we go to Vegas they shut down Vegas we're going to Texas Texas is his own country the governor says he'll never Bend right 10 days before they shut down Texas so then I'll do it in movie theaters we'll do you know 1,400 movie theaters we 10 people each that's the limit crazy I'm I'm going to make this work I'm going to make this happen have a big scen Great Sound then they shut down the movie theaters so it's like okay I'm going to build a studio I'm going to have 50 foot high ceilings I'm going to do 205 20 foot high LED screens I'm going to make them 67 the highest resolution in the world I'm going to do it 50 feet around I want to I went to Eric Yan at zoom and said can't have a thousand people I need 25,000 people he's a fan he changed their Tech let me do it so I can bring people up I made software so instead of clapping people shake their phone sends a signal if one person does it you don't hear anything but when 25,000 people do it it's like funder so I still get the feedback in real time I and in some ways I see everybody's name and I'm in their home I see their kids I see their dog I see how they live I see what's going on and we figured a way to make it so engaging that we the last event we had for example we had 32,000 people instead of you normally do 15 14 10 20,000 will be the most and we have them all on seeing them on zoom and so I Swit and see them and literally we had people from 193 countries every major country in the world and we lost less than 2% of the people in 4 days and imagine when we start here at 10:00 in the morning it's midnight in Sydney Australia and those people are starting at midnight and going all night long until 1: in the afternoon the next day four days in a row like that so we found a way to make it so engaging and so the answer is yes I I now love it do I still love now I do both so for example EV I did in New York we had 19,000 people we had uh 16,000 people or 15,000 people in the room and then we had the balance that were online in all these other countries who couldn't fly in so they could still experience it and it works so but it was a product of necessity you know it's like I I'm not going to give up I knew people needed this and I knew we had to find a way to help people are you worried that because of all the technological advances we'll all end up just sitting you know or a certain percentage of people that maybe you can't get through to or that are not so aware of what's going on here will end up just sitting sort of eating the bugs you know that's that's like the meme now that they won't really do anything and it's sort of a version of the oamp question I asked but but so many of our needs or what we think of our needs are are going to be taken care of and Ai and everything else and you won't have to work as much let's say that it will just be too enticing to to go on the hero's Adventure well there there are what I don't know them I forgotten the number but millions of men in this country that play video games all day long and live in their parents home and they're 35 years old I mean it's the largest number since even higher than than during the Depression so there's no question something will be seduced for that but I think ultimately it's just like what we've just experienced the pendulum threw so far to blaming everybody else everything is the outside world nothing you know Merit doesn't matter we just threw our pendulum that you knew it had to swim back eventually we hoped it would swing back sooner but it's beginning to swing back you can see it you can feel it and I think what happens is there's a chemistry to transformation Dave think of it as the first piece is satiation anything even if it's really good that you do long enough you'll get satiated and now it doesn't feel so good anymore doesn't feel bad but it doesn't feel good and that makes you start to think maybe there's another way of living and you start looking around for other options that won't change you by itself but enough satiation will lead to dissatisfaction that's the second element and when you start to get dissatisfied that means the stuff you used to do now not only does it not feel good but it actually pisses you off or annoys you or makes you feel lousy and so now you're driven now you have some drive to find something more started with just being satiated if you had your favorite meal was you know Prime ribb and lobster and you have it three times a day for 4 years I don't care how great it is you're going to get satiated but dissatisfaction leads to the third piece of that chemistry which is you get to a threshold the threshold like I don't know if any of your viewers have had the experience where they're like uh had a relationship where they stayed way too long until one guessing one or two people till one day you finally wake up and go you used to rationalize it little be better in the future that's why you stayed or it was better in the past but one day you go it's painful the past is painful in the present is painful I'm out of here I'm changing this now you know that threshold where there's enough pain enough leverage that you're going to make a change and that brings the fourth element which is an insight and the Insight almost always is it's you it's not them that you have some control that you've not realized some responsibility that you could exercise and that moment is the is the opening moment there's a big opening That's The Fifth Element and that opening is dark you don't know what's the other side and so you have to jump into that opening and what some people do is they go through all these steps and then it's the opening and they don't know what it is they pull back and then you get to start over and wait to get satiated enough until dissatisfied enough do it again what I used to do is kick people through the opening yeah right and they change but then I realized three or four years later I meet them and some of them would go back to what they're doing it's like I now bring people to that edge and get them to make the jump cuz if you initiate that jump you own the victory it's not something I did for you you did it for yourself so that that chemistry is what I Look to help people create have you I assume the answer to this is yes but have you had people in your seminars that were right there you knew they were right there they're right on the edge you're giving them everything they've got you get what the issue is they get what the issue is and they just step away I mean I think you sort of just said that right there so what what what do you think that really just comes down to that's why multi- days got it got it I come back and Target him again find the place to get them there so usually we get them I I'll give you an example to give you an idea how accurate is cuz that sounds like I'm just puffery but when Co happened we had Stanford come to us and they said look there's people are are depressed like crazy we have more suicides I wanted to get to this I'm glad you're bringing it up yeah so so they came to me and they said you know we had two of our professors go through one of your programs both were clinically depressed both are no longer a medication neither one is depressed this is pretty miraculous do you have any data and I said well yeah I got millions of testimonials I mean literally millions they said no no no but scientific data I said no but if you want to do a study I'd be happy to do it and they said well I said what do you want to study he said depression so they took my date with Destiny seminar it's a six day program where people rewire themselves I don't rewire they rewire them and I had them go through the program they tested them they had a test group obviously comparison group but before they did it I asked them I said tell me what are the current numbers under depression for treatment and I was blown away they said 60% of people that take treatment both drugs and therapy 60% makes zero Improvement 40% improve but the average Improvement is 50% which means they're half as depressed as they were some people get really well but very few most people in medication forever I said that would not be a hard number to beat I said you can almost do that with a placebo he goes I agree with you but that's the numbers I said what's the best result you've ever seen in the history of Psychiatry it was done at John's Hopkins I think it's five years ago now and they used psilocybin magic mushrooms and cognitive therapy for a month I said a month of that kind of alteration should have got some kind of change they said it's the most successful thing we've ever done in history after 6 weeks 54% of the people had no symptoms of depression I said well then our Target is to beat that I think we can well let's see and by the way so's illegal in most places so it's not an option right plus a month of it right so they did the test and they did one group that they did same way they did against the cybin test meaning the same test group and they did our group at the end of 6 weeks guess what 93 % of the people 93% had no symptoms and 7% that was left made significant improvements but they still had some feelings of depression so they needed additional work 177% came in with suicidal ideation thinking they commit suicide came out zero had suicidal ideation one year later overall 72% uh decrease in negative emotions 51% increase in positive emotions a year later now how did that work physiology is what is the secret so followed me around you alluded to some of the tests they did they found out that I you know I I burn 11,300 calories in one day on stage I thought that was impossible they followed me for three years it's insane yeah it's totally insane but but Chess Masters burn almost 4,000 just sitting because the way they use mine I burned about 3,500 before I get on stage just preparing mentally right and then I do all this physical stuff then the second thing and by the way that's like two and a half marathons to give you an idea or 2 and a half NBA games or 10 hockey uh NHL components to give an idea they gave me all the numbers then they found that you know if you run with a friend and you can't talk anymore you get to that point your lactic acids at a four I'm speaking at an 18 right I have the muscle mass of uh anfl lineman to give you an idea that built up I got bone density from jumping a thousand times a day I weigh 285 PBS every time they come down it's four times your body weight so imagine 1,000 PBS times 1,000 hits that's a million pounds of pressure in one day so they did my bone tensity they go these are humans these are ultimate athletes these are gorillas I'm right there next to I saw the video with the gorilla next to you yeah it's so wild right so they followed me and saw that but then what he found was something really interesting they one of the groups have worked with Tom Brady and they've worked with uh the lightning the hockey team that's won multiple times and they found that there is what they call Championship biochemistry when Tom Brady for example is in the fourth quarter is down by 10 points and it's two minutes to go and he come back to win how how does he do that his biochemistry does something really interesting that mine does as well on stage and that is there's this massive surge of testosterone which gives you total focus and drive it also makes you remember things right 911 you remember 811 you don't know where you were right it's the emotion plus the information that links in right but then what they also found is cortisol usually goes up with testosterone cortisol is the stress hormone but for the people that do this Championship their cortisol drops through the roof so all you get is the benefits of driving testosterone none of the stress I go on every time I go on stage but then they started measuring my audience and then they measured my digital audience in their homes around the world it looks like music we start out different and then all of a sudden we become entrained and literally the audience's biochemistry chases mind they come and do your blood samples they do your saliva they do all those pieces to see where you are and so what happens is people as a result that's why a year later they're still experiencing it because it's a rewiring in their nervous system it's not just a thought or cognitive idea that they learned and so that's why we're so we've been able to the kind of results we have for 48 years I can literally feel it at this moment your guys are going to kill me and your next appointment's definitely going to kill me but the last thing I got to ask you is you have this big event coming at the end of January so can you tell us about that quickly well well I mentioned before you know when Co happened I had to figure out what to do so I adapted but one of the things I wanted to do is like people were at home people were scared and I was like we need to do an event for people in their homes where you don't have to travel doesn't cost any money and we can really deliver to them and not some like one hour pitch let's give him a three-day seminar let's do like three and a half hours a day so it's not overwhelming it's like going to a great movie but it changes your life and we did it and the first we had 300,000 people and next one 800,000 last year was 1.1 million people from all over the world there's no charge for it it's called the time toise summit if you go to time toise summit.com you can register for it and what we're going to do is like you know the New Year gives you an artificial feeling like new year new life it's it's totally in our heads but it's a cool thing it's like fresh start but if all you do is come up with some New Year's resolutions you know those don't work so this is about creating what you want the plan and the pathway of how you're going to do it and we train you for those three days it goes you know about three hours a day roughly to give you an idea and you can sit in your home and do it you do at the office you do it with your friends you can do with your family crage you do it with people you love but I promise you an experience won't forget and then you'll be part of a community of more than a million people around the world who are all looking to improve their body their mind their business their relationships all those different things things so if you'd like to join us it's not partially free it's totally free love to have you and it's our way of serving every year well this was an experience that I will not forget and I'm proud to call you a friend and I thank you so much I really appreciate if you're looking for more insightful conversations about optimizing your life check out our lifestyle playlist and if you want to watch full interviews on a wide variety of topics watch our full episode playlist all right over here and to get notified of all future videos be sure to subscribe and click the notification Bell