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a gift to the one who preached which is Dr Dave so before we do that uh can we just uh start this day with just a word of prayer and ask God to cover everything that we're going to do father we thank you again for this day we thank you that in everything we do today let it be it's because of our love and honor for you just like what was said it's not about the grade it's not just about the academic rigor but really it's about our love and our honor to you which translates to us being formed by you by your Holy Spirit and so let all of this everything we do everything we say be a time of your Holy Spirit forming us transforming Us in Jesus name we pray amen amen and amen okay so we normally start off biblical preaching with a time of giving a gift back to the one who preached to us in the chapel time namely Dr Dave who is our top-notch professor when it comes to biblical preaching all of us learned from him he was our professor and he's not just a professor he's I always say this to everyone he's such a gift to us as a as our Every Nation movement and he's going to be teaching a lot of the uh of the lessons today but we will start off by giving him a gift he'll be here later and the the thing we're going to do is we're going to start off by helping you understand what it means to give feedback in this space and we're hoping that as you learn this that you would also take this where you're at okay and um the reason also Dr Dave wants this to be done and he did this to us day one he shared in the chapel when we get got back to our classes you were surprised he said okay now give me feedback and all of us were like we are not worthy oh Master we are not worthy man feedback give you worthy we are not so all of that thing coming in our mind because of how good he is but how many of us know we never outgrow feedback even if we're so far um uh moving on into our ministry and and also what I love about Dr Dave in day one it was that he said this to us I will not let you go through something that I'm not willing to go through myself and so we know that on the third day of your biblical preaching class it will be an exciting time of worship where we hear from you see when you preach on that day it's not just us you know a bunch of people evaluating you pointing out your mistake we would like to create a worship time where every word preached that day is a day where we will all be ready to receive because we believe God will be speaking through each and every one of you are you excited for the third day I don't want us looking at the third day with Dread oh no I'm going to preach in front of Dr Steve no that's not what we want we want us to go towards that day saying we're going to preach we're going to speak God's word God's going to use us and everyone who's going to listen will receive a gift through you from God and it will be a time of worship for us just like that in the chapel just like like in the chapel and then of course during that time the same thing will happen to you as will happen to Dr Dave right now we will give him a gift of feedback and the way we do that here is we create a what we call a Grace filled environment for feedback have you ever been in a place where when you were given feedback it's like don't know what am I going to do so it's it's uh more of a critique and and it helps but sometimes you go out of that place you're not sure what's happening in your soul in this in the feedback sessions we will have I would like you to think about that as a Grace filled environment where we are there to help build each other up so the question is how are we going to how are we going to did that sorry for my English am I confusing you so how are we going to do that so number one so the the way we do feedback and for most of you who have gone through uh Dr D's biblical preaching seminar or I think that's it I I I don't know if oh leadership 215 does not have that yet right we did not we do we do have it here in the Philippines but uh because that's because of Dr Dave's impartation so here in this space how do do we create a Grace filled environment for feedback number one we give descriptive affirmation when you say descriptive affirmation we mean we will help the person understand what he did well phrase in such a way that they could repeat that in the future we want to help them we want to help do Dave become Dr Dr Dave become the Mee Dave yes not Mr Dave me old Dave and we need each of your help to make him the the with all the very you know with all very all might so that's what we want to do so hopefully when you do a descriptive affirmation you're not going to say oh that was a great intro mhm thank you for the affirmation but where is the descriptive descriptive means what made it great you need to answer that and try to phrase it in such a way that Dr Dave will be able to repeat it again and again to help him towards the future and that's exactly what's going to happen to each and every one of us when we have that preaching time second is what you call the constructive suggestion not a critique wherein a you did this wrong but whenever we speak yes we could point out maybe what seems like they could improve on but tell the preacher how to make it better not just not just oh you did this wrong okay thank you but now in your next statement maybe you should say well let me this is what I think could help you make it better because we want to build someone up what not to tear them down if we're all we saying is that you did this wrong you did this wrong you did this wrong how many of us sometimes we go out of that place destroyed but we're here to build each other up so let's think of a way to say our constructive suggestion the keyw is constructive in such a way that the person gets out of this place built up knowing what to do next how to become better going into the future and that's exactly again what's going to hopefully happen to you in every session this in the third day in all of our preaching Workshop that's our goal and in fact we're believing God that even when you go back into the environment where God has called you you'll be creating this Grace filled place where all of the preachers in that place that you're raising up will flourish because of the grace that we are giving them the last is what what you call the final blessing you know as someone is preaching maybe something that in in what he preached you could use or something that you discern speak into it wherein it's it will bless him towards what God has called him to do so even as you're writing your descriptive affirmation your your constructive suggestion you're also asking God God how could I send out this preacher send him out towards where God has called him so that he would he could do what God has called him to do bless him speak words of uh encouragement words of possibly direction of where God you believe where God is taking him or her so three things again descriptive affirmation constructive suggestion final blessing and hopefully as we do that as we continue to propagate that then we'll create Grace filled spaces all over every nation so that's what we're going to do this first hour of our Biblical preaching so with that said I want to call up Dr or slme Dave Ward to to come here right normally when we do our descript you're here and you're writing down notes or you would you like to do it back there ah okay he's uh quite shy like me I'm just kidding I'm happy to sit up here if you want me to but I thought I yeah but why have we done that before normally we do it when you're here you want to see your face okay I'm happy to sit up there so that you know that I'm listening intently and I'm really all I'm doing is taking notes but uh when you are preaching you'll just go sit back down but everybody will still be able to see you because it'll be a small room uh I'm I'm happy to do that that's and then if I need to step in and just put on the teacher hat yes uh but when you're preaching and you sit back down you just stay quiet and you might want to say well let me explain that no no no you're not going to explain that well let me tell you why I did that or why I do it in my context nope you're not going to do that well let me explain what I was thinking no well I don't think that's true keep quiet you you filter it and the spirit tells you what to hold on to and blows away the chaff and brings in the seed but you don't get defensive so if you do hear me step in it's only to put on the teacher hat not to do any IND direction or deflection or anything does that make sense okay all right so are you all ready let's all give Dr Meo Dave a gift of feedback with first descriptive affirmation who would like to start there are microphones over there please speak into it so that we you could be heard Benny all right descriptive affirmation Dr Dave the the the preaching all back is heartfelt you may the word come alive and uh I could I could feel it I could sense it and uh I said every time I will read this verse again I would remember Dr Dave that's number number one the second one is the rhetorical questions like like uh you ask what kind of love is this and you refer it to the love of the father and then how the love of the king and then how we honor the father and how how we worship the king how we glorify the king it made me feel that felt that so terrible or so so amazingly in my heart and the that the third one is the way you use illustrations and the way you allowed us to be involved and you said with and then everybody at the congregation said all with all and with all and then using the chair and then things like that and then with all your heart your emotions and then that the chairs are filing up and filing up and filing up and filing up and then we get it I got that thank you Dr D thank you Benny I'm sorry I was not maybe I I know that Benny was so impacted to the me old level that he had to give three but I would like us to maybe try to give one at a time so that everyone has a chance to at least give their Mike thank you Benny it's that's a Mee moment thank you me Benny you don't to your you don't need stand yeah stand up behind lined up Dr Dave uh the use of with all it I I don't know if that was the daisy but it was so effective the with all with all with all and I I I for me that was the the main point of the ceremon so thank you I that made me wrestle with that widall because I knew I couldn't give my widall many times so the the use of the daisy if that was the intent of of that was superb thank you Dr Dave Dr Dave for me what really stuck out was the illustration of where you're talking about these awe inspiring natural phenomenon right like the Aurora Borealis and these waterfalls and and for me I'm like oh yeah yeah yeah and I would normally feel the pressure to move on but you're like and when you stand at the edge of the Grand Canyon and there's this disorienting like nature of experiencing it and that it's like I feel like I would have moved on and kept going and that next one just hit me I was like yeah it it disorienting so the next step you took in that experiential drawing us into the experience of that really helped it solidify for me so thank you yeah uh Dr Dave uh uh I I really blessed act actually first uh I was thinking when you say about allergic at the beginning of your sermon and really it caught my attention because you say sorry it uh I'm allergic to romantic love when it comes to the father or to to God and that creates tension in me it's like why why you you're so allergic to that and then when when you explain it that really uh makes makes sense okay so so you you started with something that create tension and it really helps me to focus on your sermon thank you yeah very good well he took mine so I have to quickly come up with something else um but the way in which you highlighted how we should relate to use the father and the son to two of the three persons of the Trinity and the uniqueness of how we relate to each individual instead of just thinking of God or even just Jesus but how we relate in reality to each person of the Trinity so I appreciated that thank you hi Dr Dave uh thank you for starting with the word of God uh I think for like for me I usually think of a creative way to start the preaching with pop culture with a joke or with a story to try to make things relevant but you showed us that you could use the word and be relevant and it is powerful so thank you for doing that wow good sure thank you Dr yeah thank you Dr de for me just heing that preaching uh it showed me that you understood the text but also that you but also you brought us into the world of the author like so we could feel what the author way saying about that text so I really loved it impacted me but also not only that but you also your passion you were alive uh you showed that you are not just giving a head knowledge but you are really alive this seron impacted you first before you expect it to impact us so as you were teaching us to love the Lord Our God with all our heart our soul and our strength but it was also ministering to my saw my heart and my strength as well thank you thank you Dr Dave um I think one of the um in the book it talks about like when you're preaching you have to preach to all in the room your illustrations literally spoke to all like you know we learn in different ways whether it's reading or teaching or hearing or using our senses like you literally were intentional about um going to okay someone who has who learns by experience you brought in that illustration you brought in visual illustrations with the chairs you brought in illustrations with the word and just speaking the word and speaking it again and again and again and give illustrations of how that builds upon it and so people were able to follow but also feel part of it based off of who they were and so thank you so much um thank you Dr Dr Dave and for me one thing that um that impacted me is the way you uh delivered the information from the research of the word namely for example when you mentioned that word love comes up only twice in Deuteronomy and Leviticus and there was a point attached to that which is we only love that way God and people and then also um M um um and there was another one um yeah so yeah for me um often it distracts when we go back oh yeah uh when you said Jesus didn't U misquote when he when he quoted that verse but he actually translated appropriately so that's that's huge amount of information for the audience for for me and often I feel like often when I hear oh in the Greek it said this or in the Hebrew it said this it's more of a distraction but in in this case it was a a huge amount of information coming out from just that little bit of information thank you maybe just the first off fan comment what I loved about it was that I I believed you um but just regarding the illustration uh the first one about your allergy I've got the same allergy so when you when you spoke about it I got so excited but I think the uh what I loved about the illustration itself was uh it played so many different roles um it brought tension it highlighted it was humorous it brought tension it uh but then moved to the relationships that we have in our life which included your wife so we got to know you better and we can I don't know if it was intentional but now I can connect with you it makes it better for me and then the illustration went further to articulate and put words to what love actually means so it actually led to put words to what many people feel but don't know how I don't know how to articulate it so it gave me words to understand what my relationship with God actually um needs to look like and I really appreciated that uh thank you Dr Dave I think uh for me what was impactful is that you could see um a lot of the knowledge and the understanding that you had of the text but then the Artistry that came through was really impactful uh what stood out for me was the stacking of the chairs was actually a a big metaphor in my mind it came across as the surrendering of Thrones and so one throne and another throne and another throne and it's a stack of Thrones until your whole heart is sort of given up yes hi Dr Dave um one of the there's many takeaways but I think one of the things that was really helpful was your phrase the nature of our relationships defines the nature of our love um and so that was just a very very simple phrase that I think will stick with me for a long time that will help me disseminate this information to other people that I'm ministering to uh Dr Dave thank you for a very powerful and compelling uh presentation of the truth it really gives me a picture of what it is in the past and how it is important as a test of faith to the rabbis and even to us right now and uh I'm temp I don't want to come up here because I am what I'm in my mind I I I have to compare myself with what other people will be saying because I thought it's just the same but uh you what you have shared to me that you have shared to us that we cannot compare god with the rest of the people or with the rest of our relationship so that's the reason why I'm here and telling this or giving this gift as a one that who has been compelled by the truth to speak thank you the hardest people group to preach to is pastors because they tend to be first critical and tell themselves I already know what he's going to say but you have combined touching the mind and the Heart together and if there's one word that I can tell you you ministered to me I came here with a question I'm going home with an answer you said um we always feel like we're dying to the calling dying as a pastor we do we don't need to we have to set ourselves a leges and that's really wonderful for me thank you good morning uh thank you so much Dr Dave um I it made me realize actually the importance of really digging uh deeper uh uh uh with every word that we are reading in the scripture especially when you uh talk about um the word uh levav you know uh in the beginning it was actually I'm having a hard time to really understand the importance of looking at our heart but when you when you start talking that you know in Greek word it's heart and mind that's where I get to realize that it made sense you know the illustration that you you put in terms of stacking chairs because you know we have to really take captive every thought that we have and make it obedience to Christ that's where boom I it made me realize everything with that with the phrase with all so thank you Dr Dave um it was really impact ful preaching for me and I could really see the tension at the beginning of the preaching that um when you said about what it is to love God and then you've shown a lot of illustrations that it's really um for me it's easy to understand those illustration um you're not telling saying any uh huting words it's not difficult to understand and when you mentioned about the Hebrew translation of that um it's just that you you put it in a way that it is easy to understand not just I I I love I know the Hebrew translation it's just so showing that you really understood the word and you really um give it in a high uh in honor of God and really give an impact in my life thank you Pastor Dave well um thank you Dr Dave for uh making me understand how I should love God uh you know I'm a very practical person in a sense and I always struggle how do I make a Bible commandment practical and and usable and U and I struggled it I struggle with that in my sermons as well and trying to find how do I translate a a Biblical principle and make it practical you know and um and when you said that you are to love God with all of your whole being what does that really mean and when you started stacking the chairs and I could understand well it's really all of you one after the other and and eventually everything of you you know and I thought that really stuck to my mind and I thought that was a very good illustration that would help thank you okay uh June and then Greg and then Mariel okay Mariel will be the last Dr Dave um I've I've heard you a lot of times and I really love spending time with you uh every time I hear it's like always different you don't have have like one style of preaching but what I really love is the emotions that you you don't really put it it's just natural for you those emotions especially when you are stressing some points and uh it communicates your love for not just God and His word but your love for the people I mean your love for me as uh you know you preach the word it's like you've invited me into your world to listen to you while it's like just you and me and God in the uh conversation so thank you thank you I I really enjoyed just the intentionality of the words that you chose and it was so economical I mean that was so dense it would have taken most people what two hours to preach and teach that but I love even as dense as it was you paused enough I almost felt like you opened up your heart at certain points and said this is this is how how this is affecting me so it seemed like your very preaching manner was communicating your message I got an understanding of what it looks like for somebody to love God with all their heart mind soul and strength through preaching the word of God and I felt that got that yeah I agree to everything that they have said but one thing that really stuck struck me was the how you have used illustrations and examples like um the Aurora Alis uh the and all those places and it made me think I've seen those things in photos in pictures but I haven't had a personal experience and encounter it made me it gave me this um thought that I can love God just as much how I know him personally so I like how you presented that okay so this what we're going to do before we go to constructive suggestion I would like you in your table because this is a formative time wherein we want everyone to be able to at least you know voice out what they to give at least one descriptive affirmation so what this is what we're going to do we're not going to go to the mic on your table those who have not spoken maybe or each one of you just 30 seconds each and then we'll go to the constructive suggestion so you can can I say one brief thing remember it's not just for the preacher yes and as this is a great idea to switch to you because you're not complimenting me me that's not the goal now of course when you're speaking to me yes we're trying to affirm but the goal in this now is we're making sure that we're learning together as we think about preaching so now you don't even have to think about whether or not it's it's complimenting me or you said it wrong and it was a left-handed compliment or something because you're kind of thinking about those things when you're looking at the person now you can just think about preaching and remember we're not just growing this preacher every time there's a feedback session we're all learning together about the preaching moment no matter who's preaching does that make sense yes yes so uh some of your tables have six and five so this is what we're going to do every 30 seconds I'll say switch so someone else would have a chance to speak and if you are five in a group and I say the six switch then it's a free for all but for those uh six in the table then all of you get to speak so Time start now 30 seconds switch switch switch switch switch switch last switch d okay it's time to give the gift of constructive suggestion to Dr Dave and this is the question must that must be running in our minds how can we make or help Dr Dave be better I know some of you might say what are you talking about but there's something there okay let's do it Mike Dr Dave really nothing much about the content and all that but just because English is my second language the speed I guess but Dr Dave thank you it was still amazing okay I have to pause this here I'm putting on my teacher's hat or should you you know what I'm going to say you go you say it you say it okay that is that is you want to say it Jennifer I'll say it welcome Jennifer to the front of the room lest you think that this is in any way uh Dr Dave deflecting or neg whatever uh maybe you could phrase that in a way that would help Dr Dave get better so something you could phrase it like this um it would help if you spoke a little slower because English is my second language and I would have been able to retain more so just again maybe rep phrasing is is was is that did I learn from you is that wait wait I I'll add to that and then Mike I know you said it's too fast but what could Dave do to help him become to to help slow him down what is your suggest not suggestion suggest so Mike could you try to go back to the Mike Mike Mike and then maybe think about what it is that would help Dave become slower so could it be something like this maybe Dr Dave in your notes write a place for you to pause so the non-english speakers could catch up is that CU I'm learning along with you too yes yes but you already took Mike's answer so that's because of that Mike is discouraged and we have to encourage him Mike you know you can do it I know Jennifer that's kid that was it so that was it okay okay okay so did you able to got it did you able to got it all right so who's next for the descriptive uh the constructive suggestion yeah okay irn I was trying still trying to uh phrase it um but well well I appreciate the tension that you created Dr Dave uh with regards to our tendency to just or you're that you are uncomfortable when people Express their love to God as a lover I love that but I was expecting to hear more examples of how we are not loving God as a father aside from the tension that you you you created or you mentioned so more examples of how we are we should love God as a father aside from the tension that uh he brought in your mind what could be one of those example that or more examples yeah do you have something in mind that you could they say what if you I I was wait waiting for you maybe to say this is there is there something to help him like our tendency to rebel against God like the prodal you know the idea of the the story of the prodical and our rebelliousness our tendency to rebel against God I think that's um at the end of the preaching that's actually my application you know my it touched me I said Lord I'm not loving you with my all so I think it could have been probably more powerful te that to hear more about that thank you apparently we're very high on the direct feedback SK in South Africa so I've got 17 comments but I can only pick one um I'm joking um so any your illustration which I loved um about the um the sloppy wet kiss and I know we speaking to leaders who can you know we're mature enough to deal with it but I'm sure in a congregational setting um these are good people writing songs and their understanding of Love which might be uh uh something that they've got the wrong end of the stick but maybe to make a a softening comment in some way to say you know these are good people uh wanting to honor God with their songs uh but this is maybe just a way that uh the guys have gotten a a difficult connection with what love is very good a good suggestion yeah um bedro so for me um one um so uh it's regarding the the statements that were shown on the on the screen for example the one where uh you said that the um nature of Love Is defined by the nature of the relationship and you might have done this but I might have been busy repenting for what you had just said before so maybe I didn't understand it I didn't um hear it or understand it but I think I would have maybe liked to hear an introduction to how you got from the Sha to that statement or or how you got to that statement in the first place maybe because it is a self-evident truth that Rings true to all of our Spirits when we read it but I think maybe an introduction um telling us how you got there would have helped me understand better yeah uh again Dr Dave thank you for sharing your heart but again as uh English is not my first language uh because for the amount of times you try to share so many good points and I'm still pondering at one and then you start uh going to the next good points and that I think I I missed it and I I know the constraint of times but if you can do it in a slower pace and put it into uh several preaching sessions probably if you are in in the countries of like I'm I'm from Indonesia some of the Indonesian do understand English but not at that level because we need to digest first bring it to our own language and that probably I I I miss some of your good points because I'm trying to catch up that's thank you um this could be totally down to my jetlag state but um I was wondering I think maybe sign posting um was what came to mind for me so what I mean by that would be like the first half of it sorry could you say that again sign posting sorry sign posting so like when the first half of it I could see you laying Foundation stones but I didn't have a picture of what the building was going to look like at the end um and so it was towards the second half it was then like oh that's what it is like the the heart the nefes and you know going in there and seeing okay that that that that was what you were building the altar I guess was what you were building um but it was it was the first part so I think maybe having something at the front end that's like here's here's here's the here's what it looks like what it's going to look like at the end when we get there I don't know if that makes sense I'm being selfish now no I'm not sure this is right because you need to phrase it in such a way I can do it in the future yes yeah so you're doing that you're doing it I just don't know how yet uh I'm being honest so can I be selfish will you forgive me for a second could you give me an example maybe with this sermon how how could I say it uh how could I signpost it maybe you got now that you've been through it yeah um um I think I saw you giving the definitions of here's love here's here's father here's son but I didn't quite see how they all connected to where you were going and I think maybe if you had started with the altar or something like does that make does that is that helpful is that what you're after it's like in a puzzle what you get to see the picture and then you're trying to put piece them together so then I could but you were going it's like going so fast I'm like writing down but I'm like I I'm not seeing how you know you don't know how it adds up well I I I don't want to and maybe somebody else has an idea too yeah uh and sometimes we get to that point in a in a in a feedback session where I'll say this is a great Point let's settle here does anybody else have an idea yeah that would help us get there so feel free if you if you have an idea of how I can give the picture of where we're going without saying what I'm going to say later yeah still give the picture so that we don't feel lost that's what you're saying right I'm mentally lost and I don't have hangers or it's like this is all so good I just want to be able to digest it the way you're calling us to digest help I want to keep thinking about it yeah thank you Grace should I just go hello hello Dr Dave uh I really enjoyed the um illustration at the beginning where you talked about the game that was being played and it really started engrossing me and almost I started just like a narrative Transportation into the world right um of Jesus interacting with with these people um and I almost wanted to stay there for another moment and be maybe set up for what Jesus was going to say and the thought that came to mind was to contrast what Jesus was going to say by maybe hearing some of the things that rabbis of the days how they answered the question and then that would have that contrast would have then made the maybe the familiar saying of Jesus that much more um impactful in the moment thank you um and Dr Nick you can help me on this statement if I got it correct during the preaching there was a statement that says the uh but it was to imply love is not captured in our mission statement was it something like that he did make a reference to why is love not part of our mission statement where some people ask why do we say honor instead of love some people in our movement say that yeah so I was articulating why that might be yes thank you so I when you mentioned that statement obviously that created a um anxiety so I was at the point where where I was waiting tell me more um so as you were going on definitely you did answer what it means to us why by implication I got it why it's not there but I would have expected you to then at least bring in your own words again that connection why we intentionally have honor instead of love thank you good uh Dr Dave my suggest relates relates to the notes I was taking notes of what you you were sharing particularly in uh the mo the methods of of loving the father and the son and then I thought you were going to go to the Holy Spirit and so I I was wondering if there's um a part of the Trinity that is being emphasized here compared to the holy spirit so my suggestion would have been to elaborate it further to loving the the holy spirit so the the father honor the son Glory the Holy Spirit yes so that's the the one suggestion and then the other one uh especially due to the language barrier um I don't know if this is always possible but the illustration was there maybe the use of images on the slides uh just to carry along the the the part of the the the congregation that or the audience that doesn't doesn't understand English so well but they can understand pictures thank you June and then Dr Dave um in the context of the audience I um you mentioned three specific places but they're all in the US so I think it would be best victorial yeah you did you did I S I'm sure you know this already it would be best to survey the audience and then maybe find out what's best from South Africa what's the best uh image from Other Nation so so that it will all in you know be understood by everyone and I guess it speaks to us also so that he could have the same feeling he generate the same feeling for others sorry just on that I was so glad that you mentioned Vic Falls because that's right next door to I saw my face lit up when you said that my um how when we create that sense of um we're not loving God with our all and we should how do we help our people not to go to Works how do we bring it to a repentance to Jesus to the Cross Lord help us so I I don't know how to do that where we leave it hanging the tension about we need to love God with our all but we are incapable of doing that without Christ helping us to how how to tie that into Jesus helps us doing this I I wish I had a better suggestion I don't know how to because I struggle with that as well is how do you bring it back to the Cross when you when you leave the tension because you want the tension how do I bring that resolve to Christ helps us doing this yeah I don't know very good P what's up doc um I felt like uh you taking me out on a free feed and you're saying Ben there's this beautiful Buffet way that I'm taking you to so you take me to the buffet you take me to the line you show me all the the the the different choices and then you give me a small plate and he say hurry up that's I don't know what the suggestion is and I understand the context of the time you know we you know we're confined by that but perhaps um I did feel our points were quite lengthy but we had to I think one of our brothers was saying man I love the first point and I'm processing I'm processing and then but then the second point is coming and it's like that's the imagery I get I like this I like this and then by the end of the line your plate is too full but then you're like oh well I'll just I'll eat all of that so I don't know if there's a suggestion in there but that's just what I'm what's coming to me but thank you you want to say something yeah H how do you help him in the best way you can so just so you all know this is my particular demon there's only been two times in the last 20 years this hasn't been the primary feedback and and I tried really really hard all the time actually but uh there was a twice in 20 years so in other words you're going to give feedback to preachers they already know and our goal is not to inform them they already know we want to help them so they're stuck I'm stuck now his strength is made perfect in weakness so I know that there's a Grace over that and God will have mercy on me and he'll work around it in spite of it and I'm not worried however I would like to get better so what we want to do is in constructive suggestions think creatively what can we do and it may not be the right suggestion but we might open up the imagination of the preacher in a Direction they haven't thought of yet so good image great illustration great emotion now what do I do and if you don't have an idea and everybody stumped it's fine somebody else can offer something I'm not trying to put you on a spot but that's I'm teach your your hat not just for the preacher teacher hat when we're giving feedback sessions they often already know what's wrong they just can't fix it cool thank you for giving feedback for my feedback because this is a challenge for me to come up here but I appreciate that I know what you mean but that's that's something for me to learn over the next few days hopefully that makes sense and the first time we do it yeah we stumble around as well you'll you will notice that of yourself and it that's fine but again it's okay to somehow Force our weight to it and think about it so that eventually so that's I guess what we're trying to push you towards and not and again some it's not to put anyone on the spot it's just to help us all try to think through it more uh okay so last and then we have to go to final blessing because we want to bless Dr Dave right yeah I think mine is just a suggestion based off what I heard benna say uh and I'm a math teacher as well and there's so much content to go through in such a short time uh and so what I usually do is instead of trying to go through everything and just you know some kids get some things and then the results show at the end what I found effective is uh to choose principles that I want to focus on and make sure that they understand to a deep level uh so as opposed to bringing a buffet and you got 10 minutes uh and then everyone leaves uh you know amazed in but also partly thinking that they missed out on some things because it was so much maybe just one dish uh one point that you can really drive home and everyone leaves fully comprehending fully being able to go home and meditate uh and you know rather than the whole Buffet that's me thank you all right I wish I could have you go on your table to do constructive suggestion and switch but we do we're running out of time so I think it's time to give Dr Dave a blessing and send him off encourage builtup who wants to start I can start well I get the privilege of hearing Dr Dave a lot and radically changed how I hear the word receive the word and hopefully give the word so thank you Dr Dave for sharing so like you draw your audience into the message it's clear that you have a gift of Storytelling but you deliver the word with conviction and passion um so yeah thank you for for sharing your gift and I'm going to steal Paul's word that was so good he said you not only have the technique which is amazing but you also have the heart to deliver and so I just appreciate you bringing both every time I hear you preach Dr Dave I think you are uniquely gifted to not only teach but to show and on top of that I went away loving scripture more I wanted to go into that and it draws me into scripture and that was just wonderful so thank you for that sure um Dr Dev yesterday U Dr Steve Maro said we don't want just you to graduate from Seminary there are people graduate from Seminary but they can't preach so just sitting under your preaching I realized that your preaching helped me to become a better preacher so as you continue doing that I will end with a quote I've read in one of the book by Dr David Ward preaching send the doxological community to go proclaim the gospel thank you um Dr Dave um I think the biggest takeaway from me there's a scripture in I think 1 Corinthians 2 in the beginning where it talks about um when we preach We Don't Preach for eloquence of speech but we preach from the power of the Holy Spirit that's what you do sir um and and also my prayer is that you experience the same love that you poured out upon us with God in your own personal life amen yeah let me utter it like a benediction Dr Dave may you continue to preach the word of God with all your heart mind and soul and may you continue to pre preach touching people's heart mind and soul as well um Dr Dave I think your credentials and biblical knowledge all of that comes with the entire package so I think um most people will um almost expect a great sermon just because you are Dr Dave Ward but um techniques and everything aside what I said right in the beginning is that I believe you I think that you're a deep man uh maybe like myself you you you you have a sense of humor that can mask the depth of the person that you actually are and uh you are uh never lose the fact that that the heart that you bring to your preaching is actually for me the greatest clenching fact regardless of all the credentials and everything else and the techniques um what the What You Preach oozes out of who you are and that's my biggest de never lose that that is awesome yeah Dr Dave just to piggyback off that um I didn't see you really look at notes and so in order to do that you're either really good at rehearsing or you believe what you're saying and uh that was just yeah really cool how much you love the word love God's words but more than not the one who speaks them Dr Dave you're a gift um and I say that uh let me just specify that you're a gift to a preacher who would hear your sermons in the way that you allow us to of course there's the um there's the equipping there as a preacher you know listening to another preacher you see technique and that's valuable because we want to preach the word the best way we can and so that you're a gift in that sense but you're also a gift in that you allow us to reflect your authenticity your sincerity to what you're what you're preaching there it it's it really makes us reflect on our own lives and finally um it's empowering it really makes us want to do something not just to stay in awe but it brings leaves me the question okay what am I going to do now so thank you um Dr Dave Dr Dave you really know how to communicate to the heart of of the people and I really love how you really address that in such a way that I can see that your love for God amazing and how you really uh um I would say in the preaching life in your book it's really showing up and how you process those thoughts in your words and how you do that and how you practice this in your life so amazing and I I just want to um give this a may the Lord continue to expand your territory and really uh impact uh really you will really give um bless people in terms in terms of your preaching and I pray that the Lord will um really use your as a mouthpiece of his word and I would see that I would sense that that the Lord will uh not just in this movement but um in any other movement in in in the in his body of Christ thank you all right so no one else stand this is we'll finish with this one okay I just uh I get a sense that you have suffered greatly and that you have been through a lot and I appreciate you kind of showing us your scars I guess that's the best way that I can explain it I feel like like you show us the rawness of who God has shaped you to be it's not just what you do it's what God has shaped you over the years so thank you for just legitimizing the sacrifice of Jesus and the sacrifice that we make as well and everything that we do appreciate that uh Dr Dave um I think uh Greg really touched on what I wanted to say and uh it is that you're really bringing an impartation of the love of God when you Minister and um it it feels like there's a humble man in front of us when you speak as as as great a a a teacher and a a professor as you are and uh that is the most convicting part of it and uh I just really pray that God will continue to um develop more preachers like yourself out of that model and example that you said to Dr Dave I have I I happen to watch you personally but I've seen first time today this morning when you preach it was such a wonderful powerful things I was shaken I'm not mind my whole mindset broken about loving God and how we should love God you did not only share from the scripture you delivered what you have inside of you that really touched me thank you so much I pray that God will bring you in higher level the many people will be touched through your life thank you um yeah I agree with all the blessings that have been spoken one thing they're better that's better okay um one thing that um I would like to bless you with is um this morning when you were preaching this morning I and you know there's literally preachers from every nation tribe and tongue up there in the chapel and I was reminded of the story I think it's uh Moody the missionary that just out of the Holy um um a prompting of the Holy Spirit just went and prayed for him and led him to Christ and not knowing the impact Moody would have um yesterday we also heard the story of uh Pastor Steve how that Presbyterian missionary just pursued him and I feel like we haven't even sat through your class yet it's just this morning's devotion but I um I mean and the other cohorts have been through part of your class but um I just thank you for pouring into us because one day Revelation 7 will there'll be a great multitude from every nation tribe and there will be your fruit because of what you're poured into our lives and the lives of all the other students um across the world so thank you I just want to say one sentence that uh when I grew up I want to be like you yeah like the preacher you know Logic on fire I see both thank you very much yeah yeah so thank you so much Dr de um the first time I hear you preaching is 2019 and the teaching I received from you during the time and then leadership 215 also that we studing in our church together in Cambodia so I can see that um you to present the truth that make me this morning not to feel condemned is really to convict me to loving God because sometime for me I present the truth but make the people feel condemned so thank you so much for the labor that you invest to our life I just want to let you know that the love that you invest not just for us here but when we go back to our own country that will be bring the impacts to a thousand of people keep Contin doing it thank you so muchow let's just pray a benedictory prayer Lord we send even Dr Dave from this place to many other places where he would be able not just to preach your word but he would also Inspire others to preach the word in a way that would bring honor yes and glory to you in Jesus name we pray amen and amen man thank you 10-minute breaks [Music] [Music] fa [Music] [Music] [Music] Glory [Music] glory and and Power to you you glory and you glory power to [Music] you [Music] for speee speech speech [Music] fore [Music] [Music] [Music] foree for [Music] speeech spe [Music] speech [Music] [Music] [Music] foree [Music] for e e e e biking or is that a quick way to 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but God gave me something new in the morning and so I wrote wrote a new outline and forgot to write Slow Down slow down slow down uh the the only two times that I actually didn't receive that feedback was when I had on my outline Slow Down slow down slow down big capital letters pause pause pause put more things in the not notes on the screen than I would normally do I did do that part a little bit but I didn't get all of it so that you know ESL could read when they can't if you can't English is second language if you can't understand it you could at least read it i' had about 10 different suggestions that I employed from the over the years of people giving me feedback and and had them all in there and I made it my number one goal those are the only two times it's part of that is every sermon I listen to I listen on 2x speed and I wonder why in the world don't they have 4X speed and I listen to a lot of sermons so Holly walks in and you know I listen to sermons every day every day I'm listening to maybe two three sermons on average per day uh so uh when Holly walks in and it's chipmunk speed you know can you even understand like yeah it's a little slow that's kind of how there's a little chipmunk running fast up there all the time Pastor Steve told me last night to try to help me one espresso Before You Preach Dave just one and only an espresso um and I said I receive and then drank a big cup of coffee for breakfast I forgot even his advice my dear friend but thank you for that feedback I'll incorporate it and keep trying trying to work on it um but hopefully God spoke to you that's the number one thing did he speak to you he always does doesn't he will he speak through you he always does doesn't he so let go of all of that anxiety that I know is perhaps doubled up because of the environment that inen recognize that this was a gracious environment don't you think I learned from you I did don't you think it was gracious it was don't you think I left encouraged not discouraged I am you will too you will too so focus on giving him a good gift that's my focus really ultimately I want to give you a good gift how do I say this better how do I help them more how do because I know if I'm going to love you I got to love neighbor right so the love of the Father the best way you express it is by loving his kids because that's the best way you love me you do something loving for me that's fine you do something for my kids now now you love me does that make sense I don't know if you're that way but you what's your number one prayer request I'll probably name one of my kids for what they're going through it's not me that's how that's how that works so then I want to give him a good gift and I want to love him well how do I love him well by loving the people who are listening well and really doing everything I possibly can to make their life more like what the father wants their life to be like and if that's my focus then it's worship and it's and and then if I get up there I'm thinking whenever I'm talking about him I just want to worship Him in how I talk about him it all comes together yes think of preaching that way don't think of preaching as a professional act that you're trying to perfect to be a successful member of a profession I want to vomit with that it's evil to me um not because that's wrong to recognize that I'm a professional in a sense and that I want to perform excellently in it whatever my hand finds to do I want to do it with all my might as under the Lord so not because it's wrong but because it's it doesn't help it's the wrong idea and it misdirects the soul and uh it's too low it's it's I need to aim the gun on a higher Hill than that one right and it sort of turns Us in on oursel instead of turning us out towards God and others now we're over over focused on oursel I'm pretty convinced I'll be a better professional in my profession if preaching is worship because that's what my profession would actually teach me if I listened to it and that confession of my profession is a good confession to make preaching is worship it's a doxological activity and today triy to lay in some ways a groundwork for you to think about that in a fundamental theological sense it is a primary application of the greatest Commandment that you glorify God when you talk about him it's not helping hints helpful hints for hurting people it's not an inspirational speech I'm not a motivational speaker I'm not trying to be like a celebrity Christian who's selling their books and giving their conferen it's not wrong to have conferences it's not wrong to sell books I suppose uh but uh that's not what I'm aiming for that's not the the image in my mind I'm trying to live into preaching itself should be a blazing altar of a life there's two things in in the world that seem to be preeminently interesting people will gather around them and stare at them and they don't have to do anything else for a long time babies just have baby on the floor crawling around doing what babies do and everybody could just sit there and stare at the baby and talk about the baby and they they're not bored they don't want to leave this is fun look at those babies and Fire sit around a fire look into it you're gathered around it be innocent and pure have childlike faith and burn and I'm pretty sure that will be good preaching okay uh first lecture two-step dance of preaching uh there'll be some overlap in between uh seminars if you've been through them with me in um leadership 215 what we try to do in the seminar Seminary is take that another step or two farther give you more content and information and also take it a step or two deeper over time we're trying to build an ecosphere of preaching growth in which all of our leaders can live so that it's integrated and it's not disjunct Ed and you move through it and it continues to build As you move into your future so right now you're Looking Backward on your past with your preaching growth and you're seeing okay I've heard this I haven't heard that I've heard this I haven't heard that I've heard that haven't integrated that wish I could integrate that and that backs you a little farther into your future as a preacher so draw on all that you have learned and if you haven't learned any of this well now you're you're up here and it might be a little bit overwhelming that's okay know that we're going to have way ways that you can keep backing into it and you'll be able to take it deeper and take it a step farther two-step dance of preaching two steps the two phases or the two stages of preaching preparation in in the metaphor that I've used for years and it's it's worked I think it still works is archology and Artistry archaeology being the the phase or the mode is maybe a better way to put it the mode that you live in in the early part of your preparation time uh we'll talk about what Archaeology is artistry being the mode you live in more heavily when you get to the later stages of your preparation time and you're always using both so don't think of it as a linear progression where I move from archaeology and then leave it behind and move into Artistry or that I don't have any Artistry at the beginning and I only doing the archaeology actually you're leaning on one heavily and you're dancing off of it and then you're switching and you're dancing off of it that's the the the best way I've known how to give a metaphor although uh Dr Nixon Dan is much better than I and uh and he what's that can we get a little sample of the archaeology and Artistry dance Dr Nixon no okay maybe he'll do that for us later all right so moving from archaeology to Artistry in the Pulpit uh this would be a reminder for some of you but for others of you be new when people ask for help with their preaching they often are helping in in this order of priority of struggles that they have in their preaching life creativity I don't know how to get a sermon to come together it doesn't seem to flow easily for me I can't find sermon illustrations that like how do you get an introduction how do you have a conclusion all of that is creativity it's the art of preaching uh preachers will pay money to buy an illustration uh it's the number one way to make money off of preachers is to sell them illustrations and everybody knows that online um it's the highest paid click uh for ads to preachers so if if you want to make money off of preachers give them canned illustrations and give them PDFs of sermons that they can read and pretend that they're their own there's a subscription service for PDFs of sermons uh and uh had to have a confrontation with the preacher actually several preachers now I think about it over the years uh but there's one preacher that's usually in my mind when I think about that uh creativity block content burnout uh creativity block you just can't seem to find the the right thing to say content burnout you're BN out from trying uh Fred kraic one of my favorite homti which is somebody who studies preaching homiletics is the is the study of the art and craft of preaching one of my favorite homti although he's passed on now Fred krack um would say that Sundays come like telephone poles on the highway one is barely passed and the other one's already on its way haven't you felt that you preach your three services Sunday morning or however many you preach uh you preach your three service this Sunday morning and then you're like oh we did it we did it team hey y'all we made it we made it and then you have your little lunch with your family like time for the preachers nap every preacher deserves a nap on Sunday that's like a rule in my house I say it's it's a rule I preach time for the nap so don't do the dishes even I can't make it past y'all making dishes yeah so don't even do them I'm going to walk into the bedroom it won't take long I nap for about 17 minutes and I don't have to set an alarm I'm down and boop I'm up but all I get that's just what my life is like because a little squirrel's running he's always just running so uh I wake up yeah that's so good got the preacher nap come out to help with dishes now great cross the finish line what's the next thing that comes into my mind oh shoot Sunday sermon not there yet so got a ways to go and if you're always behind the curve on that and um you don't burn out by work we're designed to work we're created to work haven't you ever had a moment where you're in the flow and you just work work work and it doesn't burn you out but it was enjoyable it was fun uh work doesn't burn us out anxiety does any psychologist will tell you this it's not the work it's the stress it's not the activity it's the anxiety so uh when there's anxiety with it or negative emotions that's what wears out your internal system so if you stay in that high degree of formative anxiety and you're always behind the curve and you're always struggling and Saturday night late in the night you've had this creativity block and it's that creativ creativity block has been hitting you for all that time I'm slowing down intentionally now because I love you I wrote out in my notes love them better you'll slow down um if that keeps hitting you every week it will wear you out uh when you are tired of it and but you really still care about it and you want to get a good sermon we call that content fatigue you're on the way to burnout but you still care so it's just fatigue Technically when you reach burnout you no longer care and you say I just got to find something to say just need something to say doesn't matter what just got to feel the time I don't care what it is I've just got to find something to say and then you will read directly off of a PDF and pretend it's yours you no longer care you'll also do other more egregious sins perhaps because you no longer care the ministers who are falling and failing I have no judgment for them I really don't I don't I have zero judgment in my heart I'm saddened each time that happens I know we're going through a new wave of it right now that I've got a long list in the margin of Proverbs 5 and verb 7 uh over the years of each of those uh every month I write down it seems like a new one uh just to keep reminding myself there's no judgment there though it's they're burned out and they no longer care and then they're caring about Ministry is broken and then they're caring about life is broken and then they would just wish they could get out of it they can't find a way out of it so they self-sabotage because if they could just do enough something wrong enough they'll have a way out and it's either that or or get a gun it l literally is that serious if you Pastor pastors enough then you know what I'm talking about so that's the second usually they come first for creativity block second for Content burnout um a much more rare question for preaching coaching and preaching help is how do I manage my time better it's occasional it's rare that a preacher asks but it they they do some sometimes ask how do I put all that I've got a busy schedule I've got a complicated life I've got a calendar that is cluttered my Cal my calendar that is cluttered so I can't even figure out where to put the stuff to get ready for preaching and when I put it there something bumps it out because something's urgent something's crucial someone's dying someone why I don't know why people die inconvenient times have you noticed if they could if we could just put this on a calendar could we schedule this you know we have a scheduling meeting once a month why if you're going to die why don't you come to the scheduling meeting will put that in at the right time and then I can show up in a way that works together it's a complicated life I'm living don't you understand you know you start if you've gone through Ministry long enough you're laughing because it feels true if you if you're not laughing and it doesn't feel true will wait on it you know if you think I'm just an terribly offensive callous person obviously death comes at An Inconvenient time and it pushes things out therefore it's difficult to manage the calendar to help preaching happen on time so then because of that Saturday night I'm trying to find an illustration and and after Saturday night after Saturday night I eventually will get fatigued of that late night early morning rhythms of trying to pull something together at the last time oh watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat again and you just I know I'm tired of pulling a rabbit out of my hat every week do you feel that that's the order of commonality I've noticed over 25 years of preaching coaching um and I was coaching coaching preachers before I should have been coaching preachers and and that's today I'm still too young to be doing it I think I I don't understand why I get to do it but I've been doing it a long time one of the very first things I did in Ministry was to coach preachers just his calling I suppose but this is the order it actually occurs in and that creates the reality for the preacher the least common request is the most important one and the reason is they haven't had enough time to reflect on what the problem is they're so busy with the time crunch they can't can't even figure out what the root of the problem is I finally realized this with a group of Haitian preachers that were all bivocational I asked them what their primary problem was and all of them talked about time because every single Haitian preacher in hati was bivocational they don't have enough money to pay a pastor there's no full-time Ministry what are you talking about it's full-time something else and I've got to figure out how to do what you're telling me to do to preach on the margins how do I do that that sent me on a journey to and I was primarily thinking just about developing world and and and places where impoverishment makes the the ministry even more difficult but I as I began to work on that eventually realized as I was talking to other preachers and thinking about it that it was the time crunch for everybody if I told you you had to preach in 2026 for 20 minutes how high is your anxiety right now zero why are you even mentioning it Dave come back in 25 and I'll say come back in 26 zero anxiety if I tell you you have to preach for 20 minutes to us in two minutes how high is your anxiety um I I just I I just need to step out for a minute and not come back that's that's how high your anxiety is right and what's the only difference between the two time so the issue for preaching is actually always time and I've realized now even over the last five years how much more important it is than I ever thought it was I stumbled on it and the more I worked on it and gave my life to it the more it helped and the more I realized how ful that was and how more people needed it than I thought needed it it's about time and you have to realize that or you won't care about what I teach you and you'll think it's just an idea I want to save you from an affair I want to keep you from quitting Ministry I want to avoid the sabatical that's really just a let's try to get them psychologically well again sabatical and get you to a sabatical where you said I broke the tape yes I get some rest but your whole not broken it's not an idea it's crucial if you get the time together then you won't have such a struggle with content burnout you'll have an attent you'll struggle with trying to figure out how to have content cut out and we'll talk about the creativity Block in a second so archaeology the archaeological mode is characterized by disciplined digging its core commitment is that preaching is content driven not creativity driven why do we say digging like on an archaeological site you try to start early before the heat of the day sets in and you know where you're headed and you know the tools you need and you head to your predetermined place with the pred decided tools to systematically without hurry carefully move dirt to discover an ancient world that metaphor works so well at least in my mind for what we do with this ancient book of the Bible I remember standing in turkey and putting my hand on mud bricks that were older than Abraham in the city of was the Troy and realizing what in the world why where's the government why am I allowed to put my hand on a mud brick that's older than Abraham but as I put my hand on that brick it helped me put my heart on the Bible how is it that I get to touch that thing that's older than Methuselah it's a different world uh preaching when we preach the word it's content driven it's not creativity driven we're not trying to be the most impressive or the most funny we're not trying to be uh the Fantastical one we're not elevating a personality for the sake of a brand we're trying to glorify Christ I'm not trying to speak something brand new I'm trying to speak something ancient I'm not trying to speak something new I'm trying to speak something true I'm trying to get to the thing that has already been spoken the word of God has been spoken my job is to talk about it I don't need to be brilliant I don't need to be magnificently creative what I need is to know what God Said understand what God Said go deeper with what God God said and let the energy that comes from that drive me forward there's three sources of energy for preaching this isn't in the slides let me give them to you quickly three sources of energy for preaching number one is the intellect when you have an Insight it gives you energy like we say when we say aha ooh ah oh that feeling when the Insight comes you automatically receive energy tired as a preacher get more insight preaching wears you out learn something new when you find something new it gives you energy intellect then emotion when you engage with the thing you have insight about at the emotional level the natural result is a movement of energy and sometimes that energy is Passion sometimes that energy is humor sometimes that energy is Love sometimes that energy is grief sometimes that energy is anger but that emotion connection with the Insight you have received increases the energy in the preacher but it comes from the insight to the emotion not the emotion to the insight and a lot of preachers try to drum up more emotion for a sermon they have no Insight in it's just old stuff they heard 20 years ago that they put together like a little cobbled thing of things they had on the Shelf oh some of this some of this little goulash just throw a bunch of stuff in the pot and turn it on all the leftovers you know out of the fridge if we're cooking with leftovers we're not excited about it intellect emotion and spiritual energy intellectual energy emotional energy spiritual energy when our interactivity with the spirit of God living within us and speaking to us and US speaking back to it flows through us in a sense and you've sensed this when it happens we call it usually an anointing where there's a sense that the spirit is flowing in this thing and that person in the instrument of their personhood is resonant with that Spirit like a violin well tuned with a master player when that happens and you're a finely tuned instrument to the spiritual reality that you're speaking of and the spirit seems to be moving through it we call that anointing doesn't actually start here starts here because the spirit is already active here if we're listening the spirit when we pray pray a prayer of Illumination gives light to us and Life as we focus on the word the spirit makes that word come alive to us and we call that insight and it engages with us in the place of our intellect so it's not spiritless to be intellectual you're supposed to love the Lord your God with your heart mind soul and strength don't leave it out that is a sight a location for interactivity with the personhood of God and when the spirit moves within us it there is a heart level interaction and when those two things come together and we're resonant with it then the anointing is present but where does it begin with content so preaching is content driven and the end result that we're shooting for is a range of meaning that's a Grace statement um the range of possible meaning for a text is what we are shooting for and I am shooting for a marker here's one okay so here's our here's our here's our text right here and the text is anchored to that singular point of time where we have author and audience in an interaction brokered by the text and that anchoring gives a a range to which it could play so when a boat is at anchor it will sway slightly it won't go this way all of this is ruled out it doesn't mean this it doesn't mean this it doesn't mean this it doesn't mean this it doesn't mean this because it couldn't have possibly meant that to them knowing him so that gives us then a range of possible meaning for the text we might have two possibilities but somewhere in there is the range make sense that's what we're shooting for not Perfection of understanding you're within the range Dr nion I feel like I've been going for a minute when's our supposed to break supposed to happen have I been going too long we're good got okay all right I'll keep moving though thank you all right so preaching is it's it's disciplined digging you have to start early before the heat of the day it's content driven and you're searching for range of meaning which means you have more possibilities written down than you're actually going to preach all right this is one of my favorite pictures for the archaeological moment what's he what's he working with a paintbrush not a pickaxe when you do archaeological work you're trying to move a little bit of dirt at a time so that you don't mess with what's found underneath I when I'm listening to preachers sometimes in the early part of coaching them I hear their process of study and it feels like they're just trying to pound through it fast with a pickaxe and part of the reason is they know that time is a problem and they're trying to get there fast in this sense slow is fast you'll find more more quickly when you slow down with the word and detail by detail move this thing that way this thing that way and pay attention to what you find don't worry you'll be able to study it again next week so you'll always have time to find more but slow down and see what is there it the goal of that is not to get a sermon that instrumentalizes the word of God disconnects you from the thing itself that you're studying anyway and turns it into an activity that has less life you're trying to under uncover the world of the Bible you're trying to uncover the world that God is trying to reveal you're wanting to engage in what happened when God showed up that's a different thing now if I come into to face tace interaction with the world that happened when God showed up I'll want to talk about it all right single passage Discovery is the first mode in which you do archaeology or the first scope let's put it that way when you're working with a smaller passage you often have it strung out the boundaries of it before you even begin your day these aren't digging in the Middle East they're digging in Appalachia but and they're looking for arrowheads but I like the picture for the strings and whatnot uh so there they are digging up in ancient world it's a smaller section of passages it's a smaller section it's more manageable and I think especially for new preachers this is the number one place for you to focus your archaeological skill at the beginning it's more manageable you know what you're looking for and you could begin right away early because you're not running all the way across multiple different sections of scripture the mode of text analysis because of that when you're doing your archaeological work work is objective linguistic you're looking for what is objectively true in the linguistic world of the Bible um as Paul rur said there's a world within the text which points to a world beneath the text which gives us a vision for the world that comes out above the text so I'm getting into that linguistic world of the text to try to understand what the words have to say because they're words there's rules to these things um and in order to do that we have some tools that you can use when we go word by word and we'll talk about how you go to a different level in in one of these next but I want to invite Dr Nixon up he's going to talk to us a little bit about how you go word by word when you're doing your archaeological work in the single passage focus of archaeology would you welcome my friend as he would like to say Dr Nixon n ah would you please help me welcome Dr Nixon [Applause] n thank you Dr Dave so m assembly Halls sorry I need to yeah here yeah I I need the number where's the number the code so I could yeah four so z9 okay so just like what is it out there okay so so just like what Dr Dave said uh where we start is in a smaller patch so that we could learn how to do archaeology there's other things that are involved here but normally as Sunday comes along and you're about to preach there's one passage that you're working on so that's where we're at right now there are other things that needs to um needs to be said regarding how you got to that passage so that's in another session but this one we're just going to focus on archaeology word by word so because I really was trying to put this together I said let's just be real and I'll try to do this in such a way can you can you saw it so much of what you see here you will learn later but really what we're going to do is what you call the word by word detailed observation so for instance this coming Sunday so for some of you who will preach you'll know that I'm preaching this Sunday we have a series called Mission field from Mission field to Mission force and so our text is Psalm 67 so that's the passage and so when you go to Dr Bryan's class you will have more technical terms that you will study but what we want you to get to is this really doing a word by- word study in scripture yeah the passage is very natural it's very intuitive to all of us because words have meaning right and so this what you call four column uh inductive Bible study that we use for word by word uh digging it's simply is you looking at the text in the First Column you look at the verse so like verse one verse two and you notice I did not write the whole verse I just wrote the place where I have a observation about in the second column observation is simply what do you see that's all you're trying to answer you're not trying to conjure up meaning because in archaeology you're just simply looking at taking off the dust and looking at what's there so that's the starting point of a word by word um approach so because we all make sorry I cannot see it my I'm nearsighted ah can I make it bigger okay let's try how do I make this bigger let me find a way I don't know how to make it bigger though I cannot do this no no I know you're thinking about pinching it you do that help me no no you can't I didn't believe you you see that yes I you did not yeah no trust yeah that's bad friend yes I know right I'm hurt though yes this one I was oh no I quit uh where do I went where is my Evernote here I was going to Comm ah command plusy is it bigger this better okay all right better better rest yes okay so when you do a word by word it's simply going word by word because word you already know what you're looking you you know what it means but you're not yet assigning meaning you're just saying hey I saw let's say when I was reading Psalm 67 and I know at the back of my mind it's being a mission field to a mission Force but I don't want to just shoehorn that in I just know at the back of my mind that's what I'm trying to do but what does Psalm 67 has to say first about the nation because that series is about going to the Nations so here at the first at the first verse May God may God be gracious to us and bless us and make his face shine upon us so I said may God and may God be my observation at that time just by looking at the word may may is a word that talks about a desire or hope so the psalmist has a desire or hope for for favor and blessing and Grace and and I was just giving my observation nothing I'm not giving meaning I it I'm just saying since May expresses permission it means we leave it to God how he expresses his grace because sometimes I was wondering why at the beginning of the psalm it did not say Lord bless me it was may the Lord bless me may he have favor in me so again not just thinking I'm not thinking about the preaching yet I'm just thinking about what the text is saying so that's how you start a word by word study you're letting the text speaks for itself and so and since May uh and may also expresses wish or hope it means that it's not wrong for us to have a desire or preference for favor and and so my question from that observation as I try to shift to what does this mean maybe why just a hope and a desire isn't that an expectation that we have of God and then in my uh uh uh hunches but I'm I'm I'm going too fast but I'm I'm just doing this this way I'm observing I'm thinking about the words I'm saying why just a hope and a desire why can't you just have that expectation have have you ever had a blessing and favor is not just something you hope for sometimes it's an expectation we have of God so I'm just playing with that idea again I'm not preaching yet I'm just playing with the idea of what I see in the text so again what are we doing we're doing archaeology we're trying to see where the psalmist is we're trying to see what he's thinking so that later on when we convert this to something preach we're not violating what the seemingly the psalmist is saying so this is just you trying to understand and observe where the psalmist is at and that's why I asked the question why just a hope and a desire isn't that an expectation that we have of God have you ever had that expectation of God and so and then in my hunch perhaps the graciousness is conditional or contingent on something we do which I don't think is true but I just said it and then I said aost or maybe it's just a posture of hoping in God for favor and blessing that instead of demanding of God maybe the worshipper was in a posture of Lord I'm just simply going to Hope in you I'm not going to demand it I'll be in that posture of Hope and later on I just wrote that and said that's what I think about the first so I'm just getting the dust off now and then I go to verse two so if you see verse two here may God be gracious to us and bless us and make his face shine upon us that your way may be known on the earth you know actually that could be translated as so that because I'm always reading different version and so that or that is a it's really talking about what is the purpose of the blessing of God have you ever thought about so now I'm starting just by observing so now this psalmist is saying oh I that what I'm asking of God blessing and and favor or Grace it speaks of purpose of the favor and blessing and my question was favor and blessing so that God may be known why not for himself have you ever asked God for favor and hope and blessing for yourself normally that's what we do Lord I but here you will notice he was asking for favor and blessing for what purpose so that God may be known so look because I simply am observing I'm asking this question what made this psalmist have a posture of receiving instead of giving you know having a posture receiving to now giving or making known meaning instead of asking God for something he was saying to make known and that's why when I went to my hunch this is just my hunch everything by by observation normally when I ask for favor and blessing it is for myself I need to find out why this is not so this is supposed to be not so for the psalmist why is the psalmist asking God for favor and blessing not for himself but for the nation and then I have this question maybe this is a clue that this psalmist is not just a mission field where a mission field is about receiving but he now having a mindset of a mission Force see now I'm start I'm dancing see more on see archaeology Artistry so what's happening I'm doing archaeology I'm heavy here see see that move but because of verse two I tap on Artistry a bit AR Ary Ary Arty Arty Artistry so I mean so now so that's the danc you wanted right so I'm just giving you an idea of how this in the reason we presented it this way is because of this we want you to know that we all are intuitively doing this already we want we don't want to start a with all the technical terms that's Dr Brian's job he will give you some technical terms but really when we go to the scripture we just look at the word as it is but it's important that you take that brush and you say why is this may instead of why is this by just simply doing a word by word you know you don't even know oh this is a causation all of those big words we want you to know every one of us can do this we want this to be something that is integrated in your life not a lesson from afar that you learn today and when you go to your study you forget about it because what's that term again that means this and that cause and effect and what have you or purpose no we're saying just where you're at right now and then later on we'll give you some terms that will help you you but now you're already saying hey I can do this but I can get better at it so see how doable that first archaeological step of word by word let me just give you another one and then I'll go verse three it says let the and let all people so I just went to that let and it seems like when you say the word let it's an invitation or possibly an imperative and actually and I was asking is this an imperative or an in invitation when I look at I did a deeper word study which I haven't put in my hunch in my hunch it says is it an invitation or an imperative sometimes when I think about that about when I think about God and I think about invitation or imperative my answer is yes he's such a gentle God and loving God he invites us and yet he's also a king he has the imperative so is it an invitation or an imperative yes confusing for now but when I did a study a word study which later on will'll give you some tools on that quick tools so that you know you can you can go home and apply this tonight that's what we want to happen just now for now so when you when I did a bit of a word study it showed me that let was not it was a decision of the translator to put Let it just says praise praise God you people praise God so wow that just understanding that made me now lean towards what oh this is more of an imperative than an invitation so see I have not employed anything highfalutin I just went into the word of God look at a word by word and give a bit of a dance archaeology a bit of artistry then archaeology archaeology so at this point it's more on archaeology and one bit of a tip of a hat to Artistry and go back to archaeolog if you could just remember that for now that that will help you now how many of you know how many of you know that's easy enough you cannot dance but you can surely do this in your mind so and the thing is let me just Dave let me give me just a few moments more just to let you know how you know when when sometimes when we give you the lesson here later on just like I like what Dave said a while ago we give you all of this and sometimes we repeat it because sometimes you've heard it but have you integrated it in your life not everything you have heard even in leadership 215 you have integrated so while I'm showing this to and you're saying wow Pastor Nixon is preparing for Sunday I want you to know because later on I'm transitioning to you Dr Dave because of this which you've read have you read this in practicing the preaching life have you seen this table it looks like this in Dr Dave's sermon 1 sermon 2 and if you think about it I should also I I should already be here Les you think know L you think I'm this awesome guy I want you to know uh Mission force it used to be titled next 40 I should be on June 23 this coming I should already be this is Thursday right you see that at I should already have submit material to the worship leader in your dreams so and if you saw where I'm at I'm actually just simply doing my OB and O it seems like I am late by one week how many of you are busy and sometimes this happens to you but this is what I want to encourage you with you will not get to this schedule perfectly but simply because because you have it you know where you're at you know how late you are you know how to navigate through see that time crunch isn't the time crunch doesn't seem to be this nebulous abstract thing I actually know how crunch I am in time see I am supposed to be here but I am just doing the OB I should be doing my OB for next week's preaching but I'm doing the the OB is the word by word the observation that's the word by word that the three column uh inductive Bible study where the First Column is the verse the observation the question and the hunches so I think many of you are familiar with this because you've seen this here in there but I'm just saying that this is part of a bigger bigger ecosystem so that in this class we're hoping we could map all of the lessons for you so that you know that this lesson goes to goes here and you you know you're late you know you're you're not going to always make it perfectly and even us right day we we still struggle but we want you to know that it is doable as long as you have this it will help you through it will help you through your time crunch it will give you an understanding of where you're at it will help help you map your days as you go on that Sunday so truly Dave I'm a bit late but I hope this helps you understand where you are at in that word by word digging and how does that come into your life practically Dave back to you very good um so give him a hand that's [Applause] wonderful hopefully this comes back on tell me it's there if it is great uh great descriptions of that we're going to give you those tools um so this is the the tool will'll give you that's the detailed observation template that'll be in the path we'll place that there in the in one version it has the descriptions in it so when you can't remember what we said uh it's in that document so what you do is you download that document and you save it in a little folder sermon planning sermon preparation whatever and then when time for you to work on a sermon you go find that open it up and click file save as uh and and you put it in the the bucket that you have for this this coming sermon so there'll be one which has the explanations in it and one that's blank and empty use the blank and empty one every time you're going to do a sermon that's what I use I never want to ask preachers to go through something I don't go through I never want to give to preachers something I don't actually use I force myself to keep doing what I think is the best thing for preachers to do otherwise I won't be able to guide preachers in the difficulties of doing what is best for us to do and trust me I live a life like you live I'm pastoring of course I'm also professoring and running a grant coaching preachers and all that other stuff but I am pastoring and it is a very full job but there's other things going on for my life as well I really kind of work three jobs and the only way for me to do all of that stuff and make it work and have preaching arrive on time without a lot of anxiety is for me to structure it the more weight you carry in Ministry the more systems you need to help you bear that weight so if you're early in Ministry and you're thinking why in the world would I go through all that why does he have a document why does he need that schedule because he carries three jobs too those of you here in Manila don't you think he's got like two three jobs 100 jobs he's covering a lot of ground the only way if if you've raced with men on foot and grown weary how would you ever run with horses God wants you running with horses so that he can be glorified he wants you living a life that you wouldn't have been able to imagined before and he's going to give you the equipping to do it that's part of what we do we equip and we Empower yes so this is a tool to help inip you to do that uh and you put your hunches in there the little things that you can use you saw him labeling words stuff study you could also label historical background genre uh theological dictionary englishman's or Interlinear when you want to highlight for yourself something you want to use you just put it right there in that document then in the word document up at the top you click search type in word study and it highlights all of the instances of word study in yellow all the way through your document in other words it saves time you're using a tool to help you save time so what happens for me with the reason for the calendar is not so that I can feel guilty all the time but so that I know what to do next when I have a little time so this is an intensive week he's a Dean he's building up to this week of course the accordion has to squeeze now sometimes it can be out here but right now it needs to be in there so when he comes to the moment like maybe right now when he might have 15 minutes when somebody else is talking he needs to know what the next thing is that he could do well if he just wants to open up that document he could then type in word study go down through see all the yellow highlights quick grab one click on a tool we'll show you later and bang bang bang he's moving fast time management gurus tell us that the greatest waster of time is not knowing what to do next it's the startup stop inertia thing stop start up stop start up when you have 15 minutes what should I do right now well by the time you figure out what you're going to do right now You' got about three minutes left but if on the calendar I know what I'm trying to get to whenever I have time and praise God some irresponsible and unorganized person doesn't show up for their meeting on time love those people just be so happy for them just be grateful to God that they are what they are and they're not here and I look well say I don't know how I don't know how much time I have left they haven't they haven't texted me I don't know if they're even showing up but they're not here I'm supposed to have a meeting and they're not guess what I do glance at my calendar see where I am on the preaching what AM there's my little three column word or four column whatever you call it uh detailed observation document where am I at and that oh I got I got 10 minutes and that catches me back up and makes the complexity of life actually work on my behalf instead of against it we'll also give you this Tool uh tricks of the trade it'll be a bigger title at the top we'll send you a PDF little keywords document so there are signal words in language that tell us when something's changing directions kind of like the blinkers on your car when somebody's following you you turn on the blinker so that they know you're getting ready to turn right in our language when we want to give a signal to somebody that we're about to change directions or that there's a relationship between what we're doing now and what we're going to do next we have these keyw that we use often they're conjunctions but not always and so we might say something like but well I like you but that's a change in Direction something's about to show up and we have a name for that change in Direction it's contrast but you don't have to know the name to be able to Intuit the meaning you already intuited something right I like you positive but o something negative coming and and and you you steal yourself up for it um so there's all kinds of words like that but there's other versions of it like for example after or before is an indicator of time when we say after this that means something time has moved on and we're now past the time you were describing we're in a different time if we say before this well that was something that happened before this happened so I'm now moving backward in time that's something we know because that's what language is but we often read past it so fast we don't realize what's there in the word now the word of God is like a swimming pool in which the this is an old quote in which the shallow end is shallow enough that a toddler can Wade and the deep end is deep enough that an elephant can drown you can read scripture on its face value and have it speak to you in a shallow way you don't need these tools I hand people all the time a new testament God bless rice Brooks so I hand that purple New Testament all over the place with the summary and the gospel in the back just handed it to a guy accepted Christ two weeks ago said memorize that gospel in the back next time we're together I'll buy your dinner he got it memorized and guess what he came back the next week and he had it memorized and he quoted it to me in the line at Chick-fil-A and I said all right man get a shake get anything you want and he started reading that new testament right all he has to do is read it and he's going to get the basic ideas into his heart and mind but you can go deeper and guess what if you're going to be a preacher then you should be able to go deeper than what a toddler in the faith is able to do so wanting to help you draw out both old and new things and make you a fully trained scholar we're giving you some tools to help you here's the great thing about this in hermeneutics you were going to learn the key terms that are going to be hard for you to remember what they mean at first causation substantiation intercalation kaym you're going to learn words like that that are simply labels for what you're seeing when he sees May and asks what does that mean may he doesn't need to know that it's an interrogative conditional he doesn't even need to know that now he just ints that may means something it's a conditional of a certain type it's an interrogative conditional it's a conditional asking something it's a but that's just a tech technical label he doesn't have to have but once he has the technical label he would then know a whole bucket full of meaning like a so a bucket that has a handle right you pick up the handle it's the easiest way to carry the bucket that's what technical terms are all jargon has a reason it's a grabbable handle once you have it in hand the content comes with it but you have to get your hand around it and that's going to take you some time but once I say causation in my mind now there's a bucket full of meaning the thing that happened before is what causes the thing that comes after there is a flow from the above part of the text to the down below part of the text the arrow moves from above to below cause to effect and because of that I know what the thing happens before has as its relationship to the thing that has after and I can ask specific questions what are the specific nature of the causation highlighted In this passage why did the did the the the author highlight this movement from cause to effect what are the specific nature of the cause how does it create the effect what about the effect is different from other effects that might have been caused with a different cause I can answer ask all of those questions out of there because my H my hand is on that handle the reason for the word causation is not so I can impress people I never say it in the Pulpit I never mention it in a sermon I don't teach it to my kids it's a tool I'm using for the trade I've been handed so I can glorify God with the work of my life but it grabs stuff fast and makes it efficient I can find in 15 minutes in a text what I didn't used to be able to find in an hour my tools are sharp I've been working for years for it so if you watch me doing 15 minutes you'll say oh my goodness how do you get that in 10 yes you can just give it time it's like learning to make loompia Shanghai a dear friend of ours B Antonio invited Holly over to learn to make lpia Shanghai because she knows that Holly's husband loves Filipino food it's my favorite one one year for my birthday I just had an entire Filipino meal this just fantastic the started with Lumia Shanghai so Holly was learning to make Lumia Shanghai and it took forever but if you watch somebody who's been making it every year at every special occasion man they can crank out the loomia sheet after sheet after sheet after sheet after sheet of all of these little oia rolls and all that great sauce and Fe have a whole Feast full of all these a huge crew of people Gathering and everybody is gorging themselves and then like an classical moment they hand you boxes of food to take home with you because there's Lumia Shanghai left over in the states it's like we just have just enough for everybody you know oh do you do you want that last pork chop we should probably cut it in half you know it's same with this like anything you learn to do the more practice you give it the more quickly it comes the more automatically it gets into you so what I want you to do is every time you preach while you're in seminary you pull up that word uh detailed observation and you start working through that detailed observation and beside it take have your keywords document and you say oh as soon as and what did that mean again I don't know I don't remember you don't have to remember praise God you're in the Seminary you got a tool in front of you all you have to do is know that that word means something you go to this keywords document you look it up and then look what it tells you instant following of one thing upon another emphasis on connection of one event to another event or series of events now I have its meaning in the English why does the author highlight the connection of these two events or series of events does the direction connection indicate causal links or just concurrent happenings or just in time events it could mean one of those things which thing does it mean I've got to go back and read it in its context understand it with the words around it to know what it means but it means one of those things and then I can preach on it notice how there's absolutely no delay I don't say that it's an instant following of one thing upon the other no I say hey look there's absolutely no delay or the connection of these events is so close we have to wonder how they are related it says as soon as or it says immediately or at that very moment or next in our lives of Faith some things follow immediately upon others do you see how that moves into preaching once you learn how to do this you'll have sermons upon sermons upon sermons and eventually I will have passed completely to you the curse which rests upon me as my blessing to you how in the world do I cut all this content down I I have so much I want to give I've already cut out 90% I don't feel like I can cut anymore in other words no content burnout just struggling with content cut out I hope I get to preach again I have so much more I wanted to say and it Maps into this so we call it four weeks working on four sermons at a time but really you're only reading a text or two that you're not preaching on you can hardly count that as work you don't even have to take notes you just read it so your subconscious works on it and the spirit has material to work with because the longer you expand that accordion the easier creativity will be so the sooner you can make yourself read next week's text the better you could even do it in the break and that's all it would take then detailed observations if you're taking Mondays off it's on Tuesday I take Fridays off so for me it's on Monday first thing I do on Monday morning before I do my weekly review because God's word comes first is I pull up the Sunday two Sundays away find that text and 15 minutes of observation it's just 15 minutes I can do that so by 8:15 on Monday morning the sermon two weeks from now is in my subconscious and the spirit can work on it and gift time can work on it and I have to I set it aside then I put on my to-do list uh for that day that I'm going to try to talk out loud about the sermon that's coming this Sunday that is unless I'm running behind and I haven't done these other things then I know what goes on my to-do list so that however that accordion contracts or squeezes I know what to do next and I know how to structure my list and none of it takes longer than 15 to 30 minutes each single activity is never longer than that I was told when I was trained in preaching give you need to block out four hours or you'll just never get through the sermon I don't know what life they lived but it's not my pastoral life I get four hours at a block like once a month every week I don't know how I would get all the other things together and and and I'm working with other people's complicated schedules I have 15 senior pastors I have to fit into my calendar so how am I going to do that their calendar is complicated too we can't just say well I'm sorry you know that's a big block for me every time somebody has availability you have to be able to move it around and to flex and flow this helps you flex and flow even when your life gets immensely more complicated than you ever imagined it would be because God says no I designed you to run with horses and beat them tuck that robe in the storm's coming where are we at time now well we're thinking let's just finish until 12: so that we good it's already 10 minutes we kind of ran through a break apparently probably yes we ran over it and destroyed it do this for me stand up and turn around once or twice no let's do it three times because that's biblical t stand up go three times around just to do a little stretch and then sit back down and we'll keep running that just gives you a little my back is hurting because I'm sitting on one of these chairs I understand I've been there okay that's that's you had to Spa around three times let's get started if you need to stand up for a second that's fine yeah just a quick thing while Dr Dave was uh talking about all of this and uh I I I'm just uh appealing to you that you you know stick to it a bit because sometimes the Temptation is I'm not I'm I'm not able to do this and uh so the schedule's really good uh the thing that he showed us that uh for the I got that maybe about uh about uh a week or two ago I downloaded it from your site so I never had that uh that cheat sheet sorry I never had that cheat sheet but but but I think it's good for you now that you're H now that you have it to have it beside you when you prepare when you prepare but if ever you're in a place where you don't have it we will put it in the past yeah uh so that you could have it during your P but when like when I so that those are things that I just went to the to the dictionary and said so that so it's really not as if you cannot do this the good thing about that is that that uh table is that it organizes it for you it has the possible questions but it's not as if when you start doing it on your own it's really intuitively there so again we want to make I I'm my biggest burden whenever I talk to Dave is that I hope when you go home this is not just another lesson that you went through and you forgot it's that this is really super doable and even if you forget where it's in the where it is in the path or you were traveling and you bring it along with you I want you to know everything that you have to make this happen is not with Google with your connection in the internet and even your stock knowledge already informs this so I want so the word by word Archaeology is very doable for everyone and then going and sticking to their schedule to help you have a structure so even though things get really busy you know where you're at and you can check it off so just wanted to say that to reinforce that so that we can integrate it in our life yeah like any tool it's as helpful to you as the number of uses you give it uh I have a a couple different saws in my garage I haven't used for three years um just because I'm not doing woodworking lately so they're not terribly useful to me just because i' there's been some things that have had to go on the altar to do other things that's one of them I miss woodworking but it's just one of the things I've given up but those tools aren't terribly useful to me and I'm pretty sure when I pull them out if I tried to use them right right now my I would be rusty in the skill with which I used them now I've built a lot of things with wood over the years but it's been three years since I've built anything so uh it would be rusty so don't expect that it stays sharp unless you use it and don't expect that will be sharp without having used it it will take you some time but it'll get into you and it will it'll become so integrated that you don't I don't need the keywords document anymore goodness sakes I know what therefore for means and I know what four means and I know what butt signals and I and I know what it soon as or immediately as or with all I know all-inclusive scope that was today uh with all what does that mean well that's all-inclusive scope nothing that's left out it's completely comprehensive what is it all-inclusive in scope of well it's all-inclusive in scope of the heart the soul and the all-inclusive all-inclusive that's the inductive Bible study that went into this morning's conversation it was just an interrogation of the passage okay all right so if you're not going word by word what are some other ways that you might go through it uh plot-based Discovery so you have a narrative and the narrative runs across a chapter or two or three or four you're trying to find the plot you're not just trying to find what every single logical word means the imagery there is just from a a a relief the they call these reliefs each of those is like 14t tall by the way each panel uh of the the attack of Leakes by the Assyrian so it's a it's a panel by panel presentation of a happening a story and uh that's why I include that there as you can see each of these panels has a significant amount of detail and you have to kind of study the panel to understand what's going on in the story there's a long train some of them are Assyrians many of them are captives some of whom are naked a few of whom are babies crawling up to the Assyrian King offering presents while some are being put up on poles decapitated arms cut off all in this relief celebrating the uh Slaughter of the people of Leakes this is uh what they put up in Assyria to celebrate that conquering moment of their Victorious King this was Glory being given to their King for murder but you know there's the story so the mode of textual analysis then is narrative narratival if the first is objective linguistic when you're in a single limited passage the second is narrative I'm not trying to go in an objective linguistic way I'm looking at this in a narrative way which has a different way of study about it because of that the detail level can't be word by word I would get exhausted by a word by word analysis of a larger narrative if I try to do what we just been embodied for you it would take me 40 hours and I still wouldn't be ready yet to preach I've had that happen a couple times with preachers when they didn't quite catch this distinction so please catch this distinction or it will exhaust you you can't notice every single word in a narrative or you you'll get lost so look at each scene and observe the details that are important to the scene highlight what the author highlighted about that moment or that movement in the story and then you're asking the question what moves the plot forward now you read a book about plot right so you know that you're looking for particular things that create tension move things forward complicate that plot give you a clue to its possible resolution Etc yes sound familiar great it's not just how you shape the sermon it's also possibly how you are reading the text next you might do A fine grain character study there you could study a narrative or or you could study the character within that narrative so when you come upon a narrative but you think I want to preach on the life of Joseph or the life of David then you're going to have to do a textual analysis that is biographical so I'm no longer looking for just a narrative I'm highlighting in those scenes something about that person Samson for example or Dela had a fun sermon last year on Delilah one of my favorite sermons I preached all year man it was Delight I don't know if I've ever heard a sermon on Delilah this one of my favorite sermons the last little while because nobody pays attention to Delilah wish we would wish we' pay attention to Delilah wish we would pay attention to uh Nebuchadnezzar uh I I think I got a text from a friend of mine who's preaching in Daniel uh tonight highlighting the evil King I love it one of my other favorite servants preached over last year was about an evil King and his his narcissism oh it was so fun to preach about that you just pay attention to a character sometimes pulls out a sermon you wouldn't have thought of and you look at it from a biographical way which means the detail level is motive by motive what makes that character tick what seems to motivate them when does their motivation shift if their actions changed why did their actions change why is Saul murdering and then worshiping and what is the specific nature of that motivational shift how long did it take what were the components that went into it how was that shift different than other people's shift how was this expressed from his own mouth in other passages motive by motive real quickly please pay attention to that and Don't Preach flat characters villains don't walk around thinking they're villains they have very good reasons for what they do and to some people they're a hero and unless you grasp that fully you'll never fully understand human nature or be able to preach to it in a way that really genuinely transforms it Joseph wasn't just a dreamer he was also an enslaver God gave him a dream that could have saved Nations and instead he enslaved Every Nation surrounding Egypt to phoh and the resentment of that went all the way into uh the hixus people who were the next Kingdom to come into power a king arose in Egypt that remembered not Joseph and also had resentment of that enslavement by the way and enslaved all of the Hebrew people when Joseph's motivation switched from honoring God no matter what was happening to him to serving Pharaoh the way Pharaoh wanted to be served he enriched A desperate and Enslaved the known world when he had a dream from God that could have saved the masses instead he traded it in for gold and silver in the glory of pharaoh and it took God all of Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy Joshua and judges to try to bring it back and you find that in the story by noticing that it mentions the name of the Lord when Joseph is receiving a dream when he's sold into slavery when he's in Piper's house when he's falsely accused and when he's forgotten in prison in each of those places it mentions the name of the Lord after he comes back out and starts serving Pharaoh it only mentions Pharaoh's name it never mentions the name of the Lord again which is the key detail in the text to cue you into where the motivation suddenly shifted for Joseph and he got off track they're telling me I should wrap up we should be done there we are done thank you for being so focused this morning I have more I want to say and I should have cut other things more tightly but we'll get back to it this afternoon enjoy your lunch somewhere in your lunch if you're behind the curve think about what's next sneak away give it five 10 15 minutes read a passage make a few observations look up a Greek word and then come back to lunch you'll have less anxiety you'll enjoy Fellowship better and you won't be so behind and you'll be a good student Lord thank you for this time thank you for today thank you for what we're receiving would you help it sink into our hearts and help us to apply it to our lives so that we don't be hearers and not doers in Jesus name amen amen to read