Debate: Relationship Between Government and Religion in Muslim Majority Countries

Jul 19, 2024

Debate: Relationship Between Government and Religion in Muslim Majority Countries

Introduction

  • Speakers:
    • Shik Yaser Kadi: Resident scholar, East Plano Islamic Center, Dean of the Islamic Seminary of America.
    • Mustafa Akel: Affiliate scholar at the Acton Institute’s Collins Center, journalist, and author.
  • Topic: Discussing the relationship between government and religion in Muslim-majority countries.
  • Focus on the question: Should government and religion be separate or connected?

Shik Yaser Kadi’s Remarks

Disclaimers

  1. Personal: Not a political scientist, but a theologian trained in Islamic law.
  2. Topical:
    • One solution does not fit all; context matters (e.g., America vs. Pakistan).
    • Every solution has pros and cons; aim to minimize cons and maximize pros.
    • Be wary of projecting our values as superior, especially from positions of power.

Key Points

  • Diverse Paradigms: People often speak past one another due to different underlying paradigms (e.g., goal of a political system).
  • Role of Religion in Government:
    • Depends on societal goals, such as nurturing morality vs. maximizing individual freedoms.
    • Radical difference in views between Western liberal world and Muslim-majority countries.

Cultural Sensitivities

  • We must be cautious when assuming we know best about governance in other regions, particularly those with different histories and contexts.
  • Pointed out the power imbalance and how Western interventions have historically hurt local populations.

Mustafa Akel’s Remarks

Agreement Points

  • Freedom of Religion: Advocates for religious freedoms in Muslim-majority lands, similar to those in America.
  • Recognizes cultural differences but stresses universal values like justice, freedom, and peace.

Key Points

  • Advocating Universal Human Values: Justice, freedom, and religious freedom should be upheld universally.
  • Critique of Coercion: Coercive measures, such as moral policing or apostasy laws, can lead to hypocrisy and alienation from religion.
  • Separating Sins and Crimes: Not all sins should be criminalized (e.g., personal piety vs. public order).
  • Risks of Imposing Morality: Imposing strict moral laws through coercion doesn't necessarily lead to genuine morality.

Students’ Perspectives

  • Balance between adopting universal human values and respecting local contexts is crucial.
  • Universal principles like religious freedom and justice should inform but not dictate governance in diverse cultural contexts.

Cultural Resistance to Universal Values

Examples by Shik Yaser Kadi

  • Blasphemy Laws: The majority in countries like Pakistan support such laws. Challenging these can create cultural and social backlash.
  • Public Morality: Majority of Muslim countries may not want freedom for public indecency or blasphemy, presenting a tension with Western freedoms.
  • Local Solutions: Recommends solutions be developed locally, with greater sensitivity to cultural norms and values.

Controversial Issues

  • Public Morality vs. Individual Freedom: The debate over what should be controlled or allowed publicly (e.g., alcohol, promiscuity).
  • Western Hypocrisy: Critiques that Western countries often impose double standards, such as recent bans on pro-Palestinian protests in Europe.

Points of Disagreement

Shik Yaser Kadi

  • Local Cultural Solutions: Emphasizes letting local societies determine their paths and moral frameworks.
  • Balancing Morality and Public Order: Supports public policies that reflect religious and cultural values, but without coercion.
  • Pragmatic Approach: Realistic solutions tailored to societal readiness and cultural context over one-size-fits-all approaches.

Mustafa Akel

  • Universal Values: Strongly believes in promoting universal human rights and freedoms within Muslim-majority contexts.
  • Criticism of Coercion: Opposes religious coercion, citing how it has often alienated people from religion instead of nurturing true belief.

Concluding Agreements

  • Soft Morality Policies: Both agree on the importance of promoting moral values without coercion.
  • Dialogue and Self-Determination: Emphasize the need for local actors to determine their societal path, informed by but not dictated by external values.

Final Thoughts

  • Shik Yaser Kadi: Advocates for culturally sensitive approaches that integrate moral values into governance without coercion.
  • Mustafa Akel: Emphasizes universal freedoms and human rights, pushing for reforms that align with these principles in Muslim-majority contexts.

Shared Goals

  • Create a balanced society where religious and moral values coexist with personal freedoms and justice.