The Calb Report: Justices on Freedom

Aug 14, 2024

The Calb Report with Marvin Kalb

Introduction

  • Funding: Supported by a grant from the Ethics and Excellence in Journalism Foundation.
  • Location: National Press Club, Washington DC.
  • Host: Marvin Kalb.
  • Guests: Supreme Court Justices Anthony Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
  • Topic: Discussion on the First Amendment and freedom of the press.
  • Note: Both justices are known for their contrasting views yet maintain a strong friendship.

The First Amendment

  • Concept of Freedom

    • Justice Scalia's view:
      • Inspired by English common law traditions.
      • Focus on absence of coercion.
    • Justice Ginsburg's view:
      • Passover as a celebration of liberation aligns more with freedom than the initial commandments.
  • Historical Context

    • Not primarily debated in 1787; more focus on government structure.
    • Bill of Rights added later in 1791.

Freedom of Speech and the Press

  • Scalia's Interpretation

    • Originalist view, aligns with no constraints on speech unless it involves lying (libel laws).
    • No special prerogatives for institutional press; freedom applies broadly.
  • Ginsburg's Interpretation

    • Supports the evolution of constitutional interpretation with societal changes.
    • Press freedom as a protective measure against government overreach.

Influential Court Cases

  • New York Times v. Sullivan (1964) Decision
    • Established new standards for libel law, requiring proof of malice for public figures.
    • Ginsburg supports this decision as a protection during the Civil Rights era.

Modern Challenges and Technology

  • Surveillance and Privacy
    • Discussion on NSA surveillance and whistleblowing.
    • Concerns about balancing security with privacy rights.
  • Digital Age Impact
    • Social media's influence on free speech; potential for miscommunication.

Judicial Philosophies

  • Television in Court
    • Scalia against televising Supreme Court hearings, fearing misrepresentation.
    • Ginsburg concerned about the complexity of appellate arguments being misunderstood.

Personal Reflections

  • Friendship Between Justices
    • Despite differing opinions, Scalia and Ginsburg share mutual respect and collaboration.
  • Challenges in Judiciary
    • Both discuss the importance of supporting the fundamental rights within the structure of government.

Conclusion

  • Message of Unity
    • The importance of maintaining friendships despite differing political or legal views.
    • Call for mutual respect and understanding across different viewpoints.