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[Music] hi everybody thank you for joining us for our last episode before we break um we start all our episodes with a trivia question as you already know um here's one for you today the full moon of July 21 2024 is named after what animal um I will reveal the response at the end of our segment um please leave your responses in the comments below and we can share it if it's if it's accurate for now let's start our show if you're new here selfup live is an interactive YouTube series made to help self test takers like you understand a little bit more about the cup test so if you're if you're about to write the test please subscribe to our Channel and click on the Bell icon to be notified the next time we go live um in today's episode we're hoping to support test takers who are unable to get the score for they need um Brandy has 10 strategies that we recommend you incorporate in your prep routine so your next sub test can be your last let's get right into [Music] it hello hello welcome to sub of live Brandy hello it's so great to see you it's been a little bit of time since I've been on I think because you just you've had some really excellent guest speakers in the past I've enjoyed those episodes but it's just nice to be back here as well to see you again so having fun we haven't even started I am actually looking forward to Deep dive into this episode because I think this is a really key uh episode um for anybody who's um watching this and like if you're here the first time or if you've just been like browsing through um self apply when you're not sure where to start I think this is a good place um to kind of even if we are kind of the focus is on people who are unable to get their score in their first test I think if you internalize these strategies hopefully your first test will be your last test yeah exactly we always want your first test to be your last test if it all possible so right I have put together a little list of strategies that I'd like to share with you so why don't we dive into that right now let me just share my little presentation here so again right if you have taken the test and you find yourself stuck at a certain score level I'm hoping that the strategies we talk about today for your prep routine is going to help you get unstuck and surpass to finally meet your goal so I'm going to start up the very beginning I think step one of any challenge we undertake cell pit test included is to know what we're getting into and know what to expect before we even take the test now if you've taken cell pit before you would already know that the test is structured to test you in four key elements of your language this is if you're applying for your permanent residency test anyways so cell pip General is going to test you in listening Reading Writing and speaking so we need to understand that we have to practice and develop all four of those language skills because you're going to get an individual score on each of those elements on your test so it's important to do well everywhere not just in one area the length of the test is also something that you need to just simply be aware of before you register for cell pip the cell pip test takes approximately three hours to finish from beginning to end so while our study routines at home might not be three hours at one time before you take the official Test please find one of our practice tests they're free right on our website take the whole test from beginning to end without stopping without pausing the test this is going to let you know if you've got the concentration and focus to keep your scale sh before you even take the official test now there are certain question types that you need to be prepared for uh we cover these in our webinars so I'm not going to go into a great deal of length right now but do note you've got some general meaning type questions to answer and some specific detailed questions which are considered a little bit easier I mentioned question types because part of the cell pit test is going to assess your critical thinking skills there are inference type questions in your listening and reading tests that are going to ask you to fully understand what you've been listening to to or reading about and then looking at your four possible answer choices on the test multiple choice St you're going to have to use logic and reason to select the best answer from the list this is a high yeah sorry I'm sorry to interrupt you um if you could put your screen on presentation mode the slides will be bigger and our audience will have a better view oh it is on presentation mode H interesting let me undo it yeah let me undo it here and come back to you okay thank you for letting me know so what is it that you seeing um like you're um I can see all the slides on your left um as opposed to usually it's just the slide that fills the screen I can see your slides I can see your PowerPoint instructions on top like PowerPoint oh you're seeing the wrong screen okay let me um stop sharing the screen first of all let's try this I'm glad you said that because that would have been frustrating to go through the whole episode so let's fix this fix this now all right let try it again I'm glad you interrupted me okay we can talk about something else talk about talk tell me your can plans let me know your candid plans in the comments below I'm already envious of people who can take two day three- day trips all right are you seeing my screen or the presentation slide we're still seeing the presentation slide um you can just go within that slide and do like presentation mode to both your slid I guess you need notes okay I don't yeah how is it now um can you see I've added it to Stage are you able to see the the we're still not seeing your presentation slides this is a conundrum yeah I don't know strange let me try one more thing let's be patient doing [Music] this okay let's try this I think we got it here I empathize how about this yes Yahoo all right so this actually kind of fits into one of our strategies that we're talking about today and one of those strategies is learn from your mistakes so that you won't make that mistake the same time again I think that was my mistake because I must must have shared the wrong window or something so anyway we're back we're gonna keep right on trucking along thanks for bringing that up AI we were talking about the question types that you need to be prepared prepared for on this test and I was just mentioning how cell pip is a language test of course we all know this but sometimes when I deliver the the free Zoom classes that we go through each month people are a little bit surprised that they're actually being asked to think and use their imaginations yes if you're looking for an advanced level score if you're looking to Target a level nine or even higher level 12 is the top score you could possibly achieve on sell pip you are going to need to prepare to answer these inference type questions so again using logic and reasoning is uh an extra step above and beyond just understanding what you're reading the basic language skills okay another tip that I wanted to mention for scoring I'm not sure if everyone's aware of this but particularly with your listening and with your reading tests those tests are designed specifically to increase in level of complexity as the test moves forward now there are 38 questions that are going to be scored for each of those so let's take listening for example you've got six listening parts to complete 38 questions Al together that will be scored so a perfect score a level 12 on listening would be a 38 out of 38 now we need to know before we take celfit that the first parts of your listening test the same goes for reading they're going to be easier and when I say easier that means that the vocabulary is going to be a lot more common and relatable for you probably the the length of the sentences and even the grammar structures that you're reading about or listening to they'll be a little bit shorter and simpler as well and I mentioned this as an important tip because I would strongly recommend each of you devote a lot of your study time to really mastering or strengthening your ability in the first part of both listening and reading test so if you can get almost all of your questions correct and say Parts one to three of listening when you get to Parts four to six which are harder which are higher level which will require more of these critical thinking and inference skills from you all the points you've earned in that first part of the test that are a little bit easier to achieve they're going to give you a score buffer I'll call it and they'll carry you through so that if you don't score as many points and say Parts five and six you'll still have quite a few points gathered from the earlier part of the test so I hope that really helps again not everyone needs a level 12 on their celfit test be nice if you could achieve it but rather than aiming for that perfect score out of 38 see how many points you could achieve from the earlier parts of your test and that goes for both listening and for reading I think it's a it's an overlooked strategy that I encourage you to go back and do some review on the cost of the test is significant any language test you take you know cost money and the cost of your sell pit is about $300 Canadian including your taxes I mentioned this because we do have lots and lots of free prep materials available to you but we also have a bookstore that sells additional prep materials I'll let you know that right now today there is a 50% off sale in that bookstore that sale is going to finish tomorrow on Friday at 4:30 p.m Pacific time so the cost of most materials in the bookstore today would be about $12.50 up to you know around what's that $17 or so total so my advice would be rather than just register for the cell pit test time and again and just keep taking the test until you achieve your score that's really expensive why not just spend $12.50 on a onetime purchase you can purchase a whole online course in that uh prep bookstore you'll have access to those materials for six full months on your computer so I really recommend that people who are stuck and not getting the scores they need it's a matter of then going back to some instruction whether you're attending a free session like you're doing now or actually taking advantage of some of these cep materials which are lot lots less expensive than the official test itself the next really important strategy I want to discuss is talking about your current level of English and your required level of English so some people already are aware of their clb levels if you've taken any type of a a language course here in Canada instructors likely assigned you a CB level and those clb levels match exactly the the scores on the cell pit test so if if for instance you understand that you're working at around a clb level eight but you really want to get to that level nine as a minimum it's still going to take you quite some time to develop your skills to get there but you would have to spend a little bit less time arguably if you're trying to bridge one level Gap whereas if you come into your study prep and you're starting at a little bit of a beginner level let's just assume that your clb level is about a level five or a six to start with that's SC is acceptable for many programs like citizenship in Canada some Express entry programs but if you're looking for that level 9 of course realistically you're going to want to spend more time uh within a matter of sometimes months to devote your study routine to get these scores you need again it would be unrealistic to begin our studies at a level five and then expect to achieve a level N9 within two or three weeks time so it's a matter for each individual coming into this test to understand realistically how many weeks or even months it's going to take to hone the skills and Achieve that level nine in all four categories so it speaks to a little bit of time management first of all for our study routines we're all busy people we're adults most of us have jobs or families and such so we do need to find a way to carve out some time for studying of course and also on the test itself we have to recognize that it's different from a study session so you can take all the time you need at home to write out your practice email question but on the test you'll have to know that you've got 27 minutes so there are timers on your test when you take the free practice test it'll give you that really good sense of how ready you are to officially register for the test support networks I think are helpful so especially for people that are incredibly frustrated we've all seen posts on any social media not just for sell pip but sometimes people get frustrated and they write in just sort of throwing their hands at saying I don't know what to do I I've studied I've taken the test I'm not getting my score and I would encourage you not to underestimate the importance of having a support network whether it's friends or family members at home hopefully you live with family members that can help do the dishes cook the meals Etc and give you some time to study that's important I'll tell you what happened yesterday in one of the webinars I was running on Zoom I had about 106 people online in our speaking webinar yest yesterday from all over the world and as we were logging in one of the test takers in that chat room took the initiative and called out to everybody else that they wanted to start a study group and I applaud people that take that initiative so we have perfect strangers that are privately sharing emails to put together a whether it's a WhatsApp group or what have you getting together with other people that are working towards the same goal as you I think is incredibly helpful to keep you on track keep you accountable with your study time but also just to give you that mental boost that often we need to overcome these feelings of frustration so that would be important I would encourage you and test day procedures we'll talk more about this right before we log off but understanding that when you take this cell pit test you go into a testing room there will be anywhere from eight to 30 other people in the same room as you and the speaking test comes last but because we all work through this test at different times some of you might still be working on your writing activities while other people are already starting to speak so we have to be prepared for that we need to know that when we sit for this test it might not be absolutely quiet in the testing room you could hear other people typing on their keyboards probably will hear other people speaking at one point or another so if you're the type that's really sensitive to noise I've got two strategies that will help you overcome this very common issue I hear about it all the time in my in my zoom classes I would recommend that you find a way to test out your suitability for background noise so if you were to say take your study materials or your laptop go to a coffee shop and see if you can have a half hour study session there any coffee shop I've ever been in I see tons of people working with a laptop there's music going on overhead and there's lots of people chatting away and yet these people with their laptops are able just to focus with laser sharp concentration and whatever they're working on the noise doesn't seem to bother them so test that out for yourself honestly try doing a prep session if you're finding it easy to concentrate on your work you've reassured yourself that going into the testing room it won't be a problem for you background noise will not break your concentration if on the other hand you discover that you're having a difficult time concentrating at least you know about this problem before you enter the testing room and you can do something about it and I would recommend that you ask the testing staff in the center to give you a set of earplugs we have them available for this exam problem so you can wear those earplugs underneath your headsets I guess after you've done the listening test and that will certainly help to block out that background noise so again it's always a matter of anticipating um what we are going to encounter and then putting proper steps and taking the time to get there so this would be important for anyone whether you're new to cell pip or just starting but I wanted to talk a bit more about goal setting so again I'm going to use level 9 as a as a starting point simply because this seems to be the the magic number that most people I work with are are aiming to achieve for their PR applications so if level 9 is indeed your level or whatever level you're looking to achieve it's so important to understand what a level nine response looks like so let's talk first about your speaking and your writing skills these skills right now on cpip are evaluated by human readers they've got four particular categories that they're either listening for you to demonstrate as you speak or they're going to be reading through your written submissions looking for evidence of strengths I'll just briefly mention what those categories are we won't get into any sample responses today however so you know that your content details to get this level nine they have to be fairly complex and fairly welldeveloped I'll give you a practical example that came up yesterday in our Zoom class online we were practicing speaking task one which is giving a friend advice on how they could make money to to pay for their tuition at University and of course the the first piece of advice that most people online think of and myself included would be tell your friend they can mayet get a part-time job and I say wonderful but we're not done there if we want to achieve that intermediate score we want to back up that idea with evidence and examples so where would this person get a part-time job one person says maybe at a coffee shop and I say okay great which coffee shop so you're always pushing yourself to go further you know maybe this person wants to work as a barista in the Starbucks on campus and they can work evening shifts after their classes finished so you're adding more detail that's one way to get a level nine vocabulary is important so is rammar and sentence structure and so on for both speaking and writing so in order to understand what you need to demonstrate to earn that desired score I would strongly recommend you take a look at our website we've got lots of free prep there cip.cup score comparison chart we've got a link to that score comparison chart at the bottom of this YouTube episode by the way and when you click there you're going to find examples from past test takers in both speaking and in writing for particular test questions and if level nine is what you're interested in learning about click on the level n responses if level 12 Peaks your curiosity have a look have a look to see what a level 12 writer could do Etc so knowing exactly what's expected of you is now going to help you understand the types of skills that you'll need to practice and demonstrate to be successful all right as far as listening and reading goes I've already mentioned that your scores are out of 38 for this test so under the test Day Results I think it is we've got a link on this or on our YouTube page for that as well you'll see a little breakdown of how many questions you need correct to earn every single level so if level nine is your desired score check it out look to see and listening what you need to achieve out of 38 to earn that level nine and as I said earlier the earlier parts of your listening test and reading tests are easier so that's where you're going to want to spend your focus and rack up as many points as you possibly can okay we have free practice tests online once you've seen what you're supposed to demonstrate try the free practice test the good news is in listening and reading you'll get a score right away so the practice tests have an answer key and they'll let you know what you scored out of 38 so immediately you'll know what clb level you're working on according to the cellit test all right and this is also going to allow you to realize how much time that you'll need to put in to developing your scores further again if you're working at a level eight currently once you take a practice test you know you might not need quite as much time to prepare to get to that level nine but if your scores are are a little bit lower then sure it probably will take you more time to pick up those skills we can't just do it all in a week for example so this is where your study routine is so incredibly important and there are three elements I really want us all to think about so we have to establish when when are we going to study and I myself I've been teaching for about 25 years now I think the youngest students I've ever taught were about three years old the oldest students I've ever taught were in their 80s so I've done the gamut and I've worked with a lot of adults as well and what I find from my own teaching experience the people or the students who are the most successful in achieving their goals are the ones who actually pre-plan eek out a little schedule and they stick to it so rather than just get home from work and decide if you're T too tired to study or if you'll do a session rather than leaving it up to chance what I really want you to do is plan ahead and commit to it again that's really going to move you faster and more efficiently towards your goal so if you're a morning person you might want to get up a little bit early before work that's what I do when I've got big projects to do I'm an early riser so maybe you want to do 30 minutes each day maybe you're only working Monday to Friday so you keep your your weekends free to have some down time which we all need maybe early mornings doesn't work that's fine maybe after work is when you want to study and perhaps you've eak it out so you've got Monday Wednesday Friday one hour each day whatever works for you decide on it but stick to an actual schedule you know decide are you going to pick one skill to study for the whole week are you going to mix it up and do listening one day reading one day and so on so these things I would want you to think about before you begin yourself at cup journey and pick a place that's suitable for you if you've got a quiet space at home where you can work Wonderful some people who have big families and noisy household with lots of children maybe staying a little bit late in the office if that's where you work and taking a half hour before you come home that might be a really fine way to study we've talked about going to a public place as well if that's convenient for you and last but not least who Some people prefer doing the work by themselves and that's great if it works for you some people really enjoy the social aspect but the support of a group where you can bounce ideas off of each other so when you've established what works for you again stick with it I really want you to Commit This to writing so we've all got cell phones I think find a calendar app that works really well for you and plan ahead you know keep to that same schedule see if that works for you and if it doesn't shift your time or your duration but again just from my own teaching experience I would strongly recommend you keep the the regular or the same hours each time so it becomes routine if you've given yourself a month before you actually take this outp test then you can see how many hours you'll be preparing for it and if you don't have enough hours in there it gives you time now to squeeze more in rather than cramming right before the test which is not good for anyone so that would be a big tip I would give you and then once you've established that routine I really want you to track your progress so sure we get our practice tests we see our results we're either happy with them or we're not here's what I'd like you to do just to see where your progress is going and in what areas now remember I used to teach elementary school so this is a little bit simple or perhaps rudimentary for some of us but it gives you a really easy snapshot are evidence of the skills so let's say you've done your prep and you've decided to take a practice test on the first of the month you notice I'm including the dates here to see how often I'm testing so for the listening and reading you'll know your score levels immediately from the practice test because it tells you out of 38 how many questions you got right so I would record those for sure the writing and the speaking we unfortunately do not have a tutor or a program that's going to individually assess your exact level but what you will have access to is What's called the performance standards we include that on the website you get them in your study packs when you attend our free Zoom classes Etc so there will be a little bit of self assessment but what I want you to do is determine for yourself your perceived effort and that's what these happy or sad faces are so if one of these test Parts is really easy easy for you acknowledge that and Mark it down somehow I used the green happy face you could put a check mark or whatever you'd like to do if a part was a little bit challenging I've gone ahead and used that yellow neutral face for that reading level eight and the the Monday date and speaking in this case you can see a really unhappy or angry face so that would indicate to me that speaking was the toughest on that particular test so what that tells you is because your prep time is so precious it's this speaking section that you're going to want to your study time to next because you want to get all of your levels up to the best of your ability it wouldn't make sense to do more study time with listening and writing here because those areas seem to be working quite well for you so it's all about juggling and prioritizing I guess the main elements to really push you on your journey when you do test again and in between testing I really hope you're doing some actual skills development whether again you're taking an online course or you're attending some of our webinars Etc but when you do test again here's the really important piece is I want you to notice the difference so you can see at the end of the week on the Friday we'll pretend that when this person has tested again and they were actually able to get that reading score up to the level nine so we're looking pretty good right now we've got three scores there that are are comfortable for us it's still the speaking maybe that we want to keep brushing up on and I mentioned this because I think it's human nature we get tired when we come home from work or what have you and a lot of lot of us don't feel like doing the heavy lifting it takes a lot of mindset and concentration to dive into a skill that's really hard and frustrating for us so sometimes instead what I find happens is people will uh work on a skill that comes fairly naturally to them so they're still studying after all which makes them feel good and rightfully so but please don't take your precious prep time and continue to build a skill where you're already doing pretty well in force yourself to face the challenges and overcome those frustrations that's where we really need to build the time okay and then learn from mistakes so in that example maybe speaking is the difficult part and here's again where I find the the test takers I work with in my zoom classes they might come in and say oh speaking so hard and I say to them well what's really hard about it and sometimes they're not really able to verbalize it so this is the next way to unlock or overcome these challenges it's up to each person preparing and and taking this test to understand specifically what is making that test part hard for you because we're all different some people i' I've noticed and they've come to notice as well in our sessions the reason why the speaking responses are so challenging is because we realize that their vocabulary is quite underdeveloped so because you're asked to speak for 60 seconds on the spot and record your answer into a microphone if we don't have a lot of vocabulary words up here and ready to produce it does become quite difficult to formulate a very fluent answer so if that's the case at least we know what the the weakness is so we can devote more time to vocabulary development at home on other cases sometimes the vocab is just fine it's just people struggle with that very fast prep time you've got 30 seconds to think of approximately three main ideas and people have a hard time sometimes at first coming up with ideas so quickly so if that's the case what I would recommend people to do would be as you're studying at home maybe don't even worry about time prep for now take all the time you would need to think of three very strong and supportable uh main ideas or reasons and once you've thought of those then you're going to verbalize them aloud and see how it goes and when you get some Rhythm and momentum and some confidence then you can go back and set a timer and so on so again this is crucial we all have to figure out what is making that particular part of the test difficult and then we have to do something about it that's the piece that's missing and really fine tuned so I would work on one skill at a time so I of course there are so many strategies we could discuss but I'd like to run through four of them really quickly and I sort of picked one out for each of those four language skills so I think for vocabulary development it's going to help you on all parts of the test but especially with your reading I think it's really important to read regularly I myself when I'm studying an additional language I like to keep a Journal that's what I do advise students to do sometimes so pick two or three words that you are encountering for the first time that are specific and interesting write down the word maybe write the definition but most importantly please include an example sentence that uses that word correctly I record those in my journal but that's not the end of it we then have to produce that word throughout uh repetition through so through our speaking practice and through our Writing Practice we're going to try are very best to use that word naturally and once you've produced it yourself enough times through repetition that's when it becomes a memory U embedded in the memory that's how we learn language that's one way if a journal is too cumbersome for you then create flashcards this is a really simple tool get yourself a go to the dollar store get a really cheap pack of little flash cards that are cut and ready to go and from these words maybe you're learning about in our practice tests or through whatever else you're reading write one word on each flash card on the back of the card is where you put the definition and an example sentence so again when you've learned your words put the deck away maybe the next day before you start your study session you test yourself go through the flashcards and as you see each word produce a sentence allowed with that word if you can't remember what the word is flip over the flash card and remind yourself because you've already written the definition and so on so I think if you did this a little bit each day it's really going to to pay off in dividends you'll really build your vocab a lot more quickly whereas if you were just reading randomly here and there as far as listening goes the listening test remember you're going to hear the conversations the questions are going to come after the audio has finished so even people I'll use a friend of mine as an example she came over from England and she's English is her first language but she still needed a language proficiency test to immigrate to Canada so because English is her first language it never occurred to her to take notes while she was listening she didn't really do much prep at all she just registered for cell pit did the listening activities and I think she she just squeaked through with her desired score but she was shocked how many questions she wasn't sure about because she couldn't remember the details mentioned she understood as she was listening that wasn't the problem it was just remembering precise details enough to actually answer the questions to follow so understanding that this is how the test is structured we want to learn how to take notes of effectively and that is a hard skill again we do a listening webinar and I hear that comment all the time people say I don't know what's what I'm supposed to write down the people talk so fast how am I supposed to write things down and the biggest tip I'm going to give to you is to focus on the five W's these are the who what where when and why and from that even that's a lot of information to listen for I really want you to focus specifically on The Who and the what those are always the most important details and if you could just write down a few words here's one way to do it if you've got a man and a woman talking write down the key points that they mention you know the who is easy usually it's their name or their job title so that takes care of that but then what are the main points that they're discussing if you could focus on that and just write down some key words you're already more than halfway on your journey that will help you answer most of the questions correctly coming up once you get really good at that first step of listening for The Who and what you maybe then want to start adding in the other five W's so the why the where and the when you might have the odd question about these details too for sure but again uh try not to sounds funny yes we want to get as many points as we wish but I find our goal is not to be perfect on every single passage our goal is to earn as many points as we can so break this very difficult task into chunks instead of trying to listen for all five of these details again pick two the two most important once you get good enough at that you can start adding in the others that's a really helpful listening tip I find for your writing you'll want to learn how to structure your your pieces of writing for cellit you know that task one asks you to write an email so I'm not asking you to go out and find a template I'm not asking you to go out and memorize an answer that's floating around on the internet that is already written in email form please don't do that and try to force those ideas into yourself at question usually it doesn't work very naturally at all instead what I want you to do is is outline your ideas an email has a very particular structure as I've outlined for you here so we know we have to have a greeting in our first paragraph we're going to introduce the main topic and state the reason for writing the middle paragraphs or body paragraphs are where your specific details go you'll have a short concluding statement your sign off and your signature so if we understand we need to demonstrate those six points that's going to help us with our score we can then start filling in these parts as we practice our email and so on and speaking I think I've addressed this for the most part but it has to do with timed and untimed practice so if it's really hard at first I wouldn't worry about the time when you're practicing at home just get accustomed to thinking of ideas for your practice responses and then putting them into sentence form as you talk but before you take the official cell pip test we must demonstrate to ourselves that we can think of at least maybe two or three main points in a 30 second prep time and then take those points and develop a very well explained answer in 60 seconds so time yourself before you eventually find yourself in the testing room and if you've proven that you can do this during practice you're taking all that confidence with you into the test and as I say a lot of challenges are sometimes Mind Over Matter if you've done it once you can do it again and you're setting yourself up for Success Okay so we've got a few other strategies to um to go through before we log off or before we take more questions from you here's one that came to me over the last few weeks really as I was delivering these webinars I do online the the name of the strategy I've coed and I just say change it up try something different and I'll explain what I mean by that so I've labeled our free webinars as step one I think that anyone who is new to cell pip if you take any one of our free webinars I think there are eight or nine of them there's they're two hours at length and they will teach you the test structure so there's a two-hour lesson on just the reading test for instance you've got three two-hour lessons on speaking and so on so you'll find our schedule on the free prep section I believe we've got a link for that underneath our our episode here in YouTube as well so again learn the test structure but in that session remember you're working alongside other people online in the little chat box in Zoom so these are people from around the world studying for self pip same as you are and you'll have a self pip teacher there as well I deliver most of our webinars as a matter of fact so you might just see me teaching one if you join us there we will go through real practice test questions from past cell pip test as a group we will brainstorm ideas and discuss how we might answer these questions if they were our own we'll even listen or read through real test takers answers and and assess how well they did and where their weaknesses are so these are valuable introductory lessons that give you a sense about what the cell pit test is all about and how you're going to do well but here's the catch we need to understand this this is so important each of these webinars is delivered once every single month so if you've seen say the reading Pro webinar and then you decide to register for it again next month you're welcome to join us but all questions and the whole cont of that webinar again it's going to be the exact same practice questions that you've already completed last month when you attended reading Pro for the first time and it's like that for all the webinars these webinars are designed specifically to introduce you to the skills and once you've got those skills it's up to you to run with them that's when I would do the practice test so again you've got two free practice tests online to see how much you've learned so if you take a free webinar once or twice to refresh I think think that's a that's a pretty good plan but if you're coming back to rewatch the exact same webinar four times six times 10 times Etc you have to ask yourself how much you're actually learning sure you're putting in study time but is it effective and I would argue no you already know all the answers to all the questions I'm going to ask I myself would wonder if it would be awfully boring for you to sit through for another two hours so again once you've done the webinars a few times change it up as add something else into your routine take the practice test if you're scoring what you need and take the official cellit test you're ready but if you don't score as highly as you would like on those practice tests rather than and here's the next trick practice tests will tell you how you're doing now you get your level in reading and listening for sure and at least you practice completing some speaking and writing parts we have 22 practice tests available for purchase they're they're sold in sets of two and we've got the two practice funds on the website so that's a total of 24 practice tests and they are as I say valuable tools to let you know how you're doing now but if the only prep thing you're doing is practice test after practice test it's the score that you receive is not going to be explained to you so if you get say that level eight in Reading at least the practice test has an answer key it will show you which answers you got wrong and tell you what the right answer is supposed to be but what the practice test will not do is it won't explain why this answer is correct so quite often people make their way to my webinars and they say I didn't understand question six from that practice test why is it this answer and not this answer so in order to pick up the skills that you'll need to actually improve your score that's when you need to add more prep into your routine if you're still not achieving the score that you need it's the instruction piece I think that's missing for a lot of people so that's why we started this sell pip live uh series on YouTube four years ago now so this is free we do so many instructional episodes here and a lot of these episodes by the way are from you they're recommendations and requests so if somebody writes into awat or or mentions in one of my webinars I don't know how to do listening part six we'll put together an episode to help you out with that so please take advantage of the instruction that's provided to you free just like we're doing here today as well I mentioned those score comparison charts they're free to access so rather than just do you know webinar after webinar and see the same old same old why not if you've not yet checked out the comparison chart have a look there and you'll see different test questions you'll see different student answers and so on so I always recommend check out the free prep first everybody would do that I'm guessing right it's human nature we want to save money but if you're still not getting that score you need it might be time as I mentioned earlier to visit our our bookstore this sell pip accelerate program is an online course you have access to it for six whole months so all the lessons there whether you're trying to learn how to take notes maybe you're trying to learn how to skim a reading passage quickly and pull out details Etc so find the it's like a table of contents in a way find the lessons or the instructed videos that teach the skill you need you might not have to do all of them watch the video and complete the activities associated with it so now you're actually targeting those week areas again if you purchased accelerate today it would be $12.50 so it's a pretty good invest it's not free but it's a pretty good investment and there's a vocabulary book for sale and there's some other things there too so I'll let you explore the bookstore there on your own but change it up if you don't get the result that you're seeking now whatever you're doing for your prep you might not have to overhaul it completely but you'll definitely want to do something differently otherwise how are you ever going to change your result right so mix and match try something new if that didn't work try something different eventually I'm confident you're going to land on something that actually works for you and that's the ultimate goal here okay two more to go here last week or two weeks ago I guess our last cell pip episode we had a fantastic guest speaker her name is nefisa she took her cell pip test two years ago and is currently thriving in Calgary Alberta she's got a job and she's settled one of the tips that she emphasized many times really resonated with me and she said one of the ways she found success on the test is because she immersed herself in the English language now she mentioned fortunately for her she has a husband at home that she could practice speaking in English with but I want you to find ways to use English in your day-to-day lives because again oftentimes people come to my webinars and they lament they've not have the skills that or found the score they needed and I asked I said well how often are you speaking English outside of the prep time and quite often people will say not so much right it's easy if we're living at home with our families or among other people and we're all speaking perhaps our first language but if we're trying to learn English we really have to find ways to produce it over and over again with regularity so I've mentioned already about maybe forming a study group if that's something that you're interested in doing you could sign up for a prep class I recognize this would cost money but we do have um prep provider section on our website and you've got options to register online or sometimes in person depending where you live but this one's free and this goes back to theis point so try to speak English at home at work in the community wherever you are practice practice produce produce and that's going to really speed up I think your retention of the language and improve your your skills so much more than just doing two study sessions in a week for instance okay and one of the last points I'll mention is uh I sort of addressed this earlier but we want to simulate testing meaning we have to know what's expected in the testing room and we want to practice our study sessions accordingly so at some point not right away but as you're doing your your prep routine at home before you go into the actual testing room it's so important I think to take a full practice test from beginning to end without pausing without stopping see what it feels like to sit for the three hours and work your way all the way through that test without getting up to use the washroom without getting up to get a drink of water Etc because you won't be allowed well I shouldn't say that in the testing room the timers will never stop so if you needed the washroom you could raise your hand and a staff member will escort you out to the bathroom and back but the timer on the test will not stop so you'll probably miss some questions so we want to make sure we know we can sit for those three hours and not interrupt our test again I've addressed this already getting our ears in tune to some background noise so try some study prep at a coffee shop once once or twice make sure it's comfortable for you if other people are chatting quiet here are two that I thought of now I'm a runner I've done two marathons and a pile of half marathons and other races and I remember my first running coach always said to us whatever you're doing especially in the days leading up to your race especially the night before never ever change it never add anything new so thinking of that as it applies to the cell P prep here same thing whatever your regular bedtime routine is whatever time you normally go to bed please do that especially night before your test all right you're not do not stay up and cram until two hours before your test begins you want to be rested and you want your brain to be functioning as it normally does and the same goes for what you eat I don't know if you've considered this at all but going out to a new restaurant or eating shellfish or something really spicy that you're not used to the night before a test it's probably not the best idea you don't want to do anything that could make your stomach nauseous or upset so that when you wake up the next morning you don't want to be feeling ill right so whatever you normally eat stick to it so that you uh have are comfortable coming into the test and so on and last but not least let's end on a positive note here again I recognize it can be frustrating if we've tried our best taken some time and we're still not seeing the progress that we'd like anyone would feel frustrated in that situation so I do understand and sympathize to a point but I would recommend try your best anyway rather than to dwell on the hardships and the frustrations that you're experiencing try to find the good that's come out of every study session so for instance maybe you started your journey off with a reading level seven and maybe after a few weeks of practice you are not yet targeting the level 9 where you'd like to be but maybe you tested again and you're at about the level eight now so rather than feel discouraged and upset that we haven't yet met our goal we want to be happy that we're seeing progress in the first place so it might not be happening as quickly as we'd like but we are seeing that gradually we are getting a little bit better so I think it's it's so important to recognize the hard work we are doing and to find the the positive or the benefit in that rather than just dwell on the frustrations because again from life experience and I'm I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say when we're just focused on on the hard things sometimes I feel like we've got blinders on and we miss all the positive opportunities out here so when we're stuck acknowledge we're stuck acknowledge we're frustrated but then do something about it right change it up add more prep into the plan and celebrate the progress you have made and I think keeping that positive mindset is actually going to help you overcome those barriers faster than you might think all right so anyway food for thought you can take that those tips as you will see what works for you I will um stop sharing my screen and come back I don't know if we've got any questions here today but let's see let boy do we have questions so um we um so I just wanted to say first that we had like a full 60 at least what I can see is 60 people in attendance and they were here throughout so I'm really happy that um all of you who joined us watched the entire episode and were able to watch it live because now um you know our this episode will stay forever and you can access it anytime time but when you do watch live you get to ask questions that immediately come to your mind and we are here to answer them for you immediately so feel free to ask your questions in the chat below um I'm going to scroll up and see if there are any questions that you haven't already answered Brandy because I know that there were some questions in the beginning about like uh being able to take notes when somebody's talking and things like that so um I think those questions you already answered um so I did see another question here uh the same question has been copy pasted so I'm just going to address it I fa challenges while listening last part of listening test as a speaker speaking very fast and it's difficult to take notes at the same time so I think Brandy you already gave some really great strategies for this um yeah you can either go back and watch the episode uh again or brandy if you want to say something if you want to add something to the comment yeah I can certainly add in now I will mention that this speed at which the the speakers on your test are speaking it's not designed to have the speed also get harder as the parts move forward so I just wanted to clarify that you might have a listening part three where whoever was recording that clip just had a slightly natural more a faster pace of speaking maybe like me you might have noticed I talk a little fast too so it doesn't necessarily mean on part six they're going to talk faster that's not the case but if there is any part of your test that you find the speaker is talking a little bit quickly for you of course you're going to still have to focus on The Who and the what to the best of your ability but to prepare ahead of time for that I think if you could remember we said immerse yourself in language if you could tune your ear into as many uh English native speakers as possible in the sense of a professional report so I would always recommend the news find a quick little two-minute online news article of interest to you and a news reporter is going to be highly proficient in English communication which is why they have that job as a public speaker some of those reporters as native speakers do in any language they will talk quickly so again if you're listening to these reports and practicing those same strategies still trying to pull out the who and then the what you're going to have all the more practice of different speakers before you come into the cell pit test again it's all about um knowing what to expect and that's that's actually very good expectation to have you might just have that one clip some of our practice test I've noticed that as well just happens to be the speaker in that one dialogue I think to myself wow we're talking a little more quickly than I just heard but we're still going to try to to listen for the what same idea yeah prepare just by I guess immersing your ear to different different speakers and you'll have at least more practice with that part all right I see aw looking at the questions oh what are the difference between taking the test in Canada or in the UK um there is no difference um I guess the only difference is you're paying in pounds and you're paying here in dollars um in terms of content I guess that's where you're coming from it's the same content like um the test is developed by us so anywhere the wherever you take your test the the content is coming from us here in Canada so it's going to be the same content throughout it's going to be the same time it's going to be the same number of hours and it's also going to be the same number of days it takes to get your results so there is no difference um you might have to make sure that um that you arrange travel according to the traffic situation um over there so we need everybody to be at the test center 45 minutes before your test anything sooner anything later than that you won't be allowed inside so if you come half an hour before your test or 15 minutes before your test you will not be allowed to write your test so make sure you come at least 45 minutes before your test so you might have to um you know depending on where your location is and how bad the traffic is in your location you might have to prepare for that okay um I have a question here that um I will read out and brandy if you have any answers please answer them for you answer them for hasel hello Brandy it's really good to get tips in the experience that you share I was having a question that I'm having a problem in the reading section in list the heading section is that I don't know which part Harel which part is that like Reading part two part three part one is reading for correspondence two is the diagram is that what you're referring to the visual part three is sometimes it's hard one it's not right in front of you yeah so I'm not really sure which part you're asking about list the heading part four is your reading for Viewpoint so you've got at least three or four different people's opinions so I don't I can't think off the top of I had which part you're referring to so maybe if partial you could um specify if we have today live we could always write back later on I guess please specify which section in the reading section you're talking about um let me go back and see if there are any other questions so there are accommodations so this is not for you brand but this is for um admin I can answer that question um whether you're stuttering or you're wondering about accommodations for pregnant women or any other accommodations say you have like you you use hearing aids or if there's anything that you think you might need uh accommodations with please go and download our special accommodations form on our website um fill it in and send it in at least one month before your test date because we have to make that accommodation your so let's say that you're taking your test in um in the UK like somebody asked and you need an accommodation you send us your special accommodation form we get the information we you also have to send in proof of um eligibility like what if you're El like you have to show us why you think you're eligible for special accommodation so whether that's a medical report or documents anything that you have send it along with the special accommodation form and the reason we need a month is because we need that much time to prepare so it has that information has to go back from here to the test center where they have to physically make those accommodations in the testing room so the earlier you send it to us the better we will be able to accommodate you how many words per day should I learn from my vocabulary Journal that's a great question yeah it's different for everyone I would say suggest not to add too many at one time um although we're all eager and just want to know all the words we can I think the brain is only capable of retaining so much information so don't overload it I it depends I guess how much time you have to prepare but I always stick with about three three seems to be a magic number for just about anything so if you've read a news article online or what have you and there are three words of of interest you weren't really sure about before when you write those down and then take the time to look at your definition look at example sentences I think that's enough time for the vocab for now because then tomorrow when you do your reading you might want to aim to add two or three new words to the list but here's what I would do with your vocabulary Journal this is what helps me maybe it will help you before I add any new words the next study session I review what's already there so if I've just started my study prep and I had three words in my journal I would actually sort of put the book away for a minute I don't want to see the definition I'm going to produce some sentences aloud or or write them out and then I'll go back and double check my work against the definitions I've written and if I've proven to myself that I can without looking produce these words and understand how they mean that I'm ready now to add more words to my list I think where some people go wrong is they overload themselves so there's no sense adding word after word after word to a journal if you don't remember what the last eight words were that you wrote down I think it's a matter of chunking any big task into smaller pieces that's going to help you retain the information at a more comfortable pace and on a more permanent basis uh and again I know we're just trying to get the the test score we need but when you do get your test score if you do immigrate to Canada you're going to probably work here and be involved in the community so it's not just a matter of doing well on the test I think it's a matter of expanding these skills forever so again if you can commit them to Memory by uh working at them bit by bit they'll be there for the rest of forever and you'll continue to build your skills even after Self it this time yeah great question D thanks for asking that um we have a question from Zeal can we use phrases suggest practice makes man perfect in the writing test so close so the phrase or the expression you're looking for is just practice makes perfect so that's a very common expression we would use in your writing test it's it's okay to be casual sometimes it depends on really who you're writing to like if for some reason your email ask you to write to a friend and I don't know how this this expression would work into it but if whatever you were discussing you were talking about a skill that they needed to practice over and over you could include that I suppose and it would be suitable because you're being casual with a friend if you were talking though to a stranger or a manager or a boss it might be a little bit too casual right we often don't use idioms or sign expressions or sort of cliched Expressions so yeah you can use words that make sense if they make sense to do so but yeah Z just know that you you didn't want to take the word man right out of this it's just practice makes perfect and that's the Casual expression that we use the same goes for our our whole episode today with our study tips right we can say practice makes perfect and all we mean is the more you practice these skills hopefully the more you'll develop them too great um and so herel responded and mentioned that he was referring to Reading part three I also want to share another comment from another viewer who said that uh the challenging part in Reading is three and four so I think we're looking at these twool sections right okay so again Joy you're absolutely right remember how we said the first parts of your reading test Parts one and two are designed to be easier Parts three and four are designed to be a little harder because they're now assessing who the advanced readers are so just again for anyone may be just joining us late if you are getting most of your questions and Reading part four correct your probably a level 11 or 12 reader which is very Advanced so if you're aiming for level nine the good news with that is you don't have to have all the questions in part four correct you've got a little cushion of points there so don't don't put all the pressure to be perfect on yourself and Achieve those but of course we do want to to score as highly as we can so the part three in particular that Harel was talking about part three is asking you to read for information so I think when you were mentioning about headings in the list perhaps you're speaking to how we teach note taking for that activity it's starting to kind of come together for me maybe that's what you meant so when you're reading through um the article itself you're going to have I'm trying to remember now it's so hard to talk about this when I don't have a test question in front of me to be very honest is that that is Reading part three hey I know listening is there's a news article is it Reading part three do I have that right is it reading a news item maybe Neil can quickly remind me before I go up that's what I if I have to go by what Harel mentioned in his previous comment about reading the headlines I think that's what they mean by news comment reading for information okay no not this one older comment let me go back yeah reading so Reading part three is reading for information there are like I'm just stuck on what you said about list and headings because there are no list and headings in the reading passage I think they mean headlines I think so that's what I'm thinking I think they mean headlines which is another word we use for all right got it okay so you're just finding in general it's difficult to read for information okay so again there's nothing really new I can say other than launch into an entire instructional episode with the Reading part three and show you how to find information and answer questions but it's always a matter of understanding first of all with your reading passage it's I encourage readers of any level to skim read over the first sentence of each paragraph on the passage so most of your self pit passages are about four paragraphs long give or take so before you've even looked at the questions here's what you can try Harel and anybody else um have a look again at those four paragraphs if you read just the first sentence of each paragraph it's going to give you enough information that you'll understand at least the main topic so are you reading about uh I don't know a power event I think there's one on a test we do where power lines have been knocked out maybe that's the topic are you reading about a fundraising campaign whatever it is you're going to know because the first sentence of each paragraph identifies the main idea in those paragraphs so when you then look at the questions and you have a basic understanding of the topic the questions become a little bit easier to decode because now your job shifts you look at your question you look at the answer choices you have to identify the keywords and they're the same key wordss that you listen for the five W's so is the question focusing on aware is there is there some sort of a location that this question is asking you to find in the article so now it's your job to look at the locations listed if that was the question go back to the passage and you're going to let your eyes scan just fall over the page you're looking specifically for those words from the question and answer if you're lucky the words will be the same it's a direct match being part three for reading and it's already higher level you're probably going to be dealing more with paraphrased ideas in synonyms so we still have to recognize that the word I'm looking for might be phrased a little differently in the passage but it's a matter of matching up the meanings so that's a way to do this efficiently you're not I repeat you are not reading the passage from beginning to end every single question you're trying to answer because you just won't finish the test you won't have time it's a matter of understanding what is the question asking me to find is it a where detail maybe it's a what detail maybe it's a when detail so that's step one once you've recognized what you're looking for the job then shifts to finding it quickly in the passage that's the piece those two steps take the most practice understanding what to look for and then actually finding quickly in a passage we call that skimming and scanning so you'll apply those strategies to all four parts of your reading test that as the test gets harder it's probably going to take you more time you'll find because the ideas are more complex there we got there in the end now that I know what you were referring to about the listen heading so thank you for clarifying that um okay um how Okay so please do not repeat the same comment again and again you will be put in timeout because it's Inon it's difficult for me to have to scroll back up and then keep getting rearranged and come back down because you're pasting comments if it's okay it's okay if it's a new question but don't place your comment again uh you will be put in a Timeout and you won't be able to interact in the live chat again um Okay so we've talked a lot about approaches to reading so I will um unless it's a new section if it's a general thing of like how do I improve my reading I think Brandy has given enough points and more so we're going to move past that um okay how to improve my ability to remember and rephrase I understand everything you talking about but I am not able to repeat this to tell it to someone yeah paraphrasing is also a challenging skill so paraphrasing skills by the way are beginner level so you'll notice in say listening Part One Reading part one more of the questions and answer choices we were just talking about more of those words you'll find exactly the same in the source material so you don't have to worry as much about finding these synonyms and these paraphrased ideas again as the test moves forward I always say about halfway through Reading part three listening part four you're going to notice more or most of the ideas are going to be paraphrased because it requires more effort and a higher level skill to actually accomplish that so if it's difficult for you now it just means it needs more practice and it needs more vocabulary development so as I said before whatever works for you keep a journal keep your flashcards read read read listen listen listen the more you immerse yourself in the language the more you pick up the meanings of all of these new words and trust me when I say this will become easier eventually if you've got a lot of words in your uh I always call it a memory bank like up here then you'll be able to rephrase and explain when you're speaking in particular I'll say as well that the questions for the speaking are quite short um one comes to mind because I just did it yesterday in the zoom so the question was in our speaking test seven do you think it's beneficial for all high school students to learn a second language so that was the question and people would then have to either say yes it is or no it isn't and come up with three reasons they have 90 seconds to fill and we notice that even though our our test taker we listened to her answer she got a level nine she gave a really good answer but what we noticed is she read that question right off the screen to start her answer so she said yes I think it would be beneficial for all high school students to learn a second language because BL blah blah blah blah and the rest of the answer was wonderful and her own but she also had issues or didn't take the time to paraphrase that into her own I always encourage you to try to use your own words to explain any test situation rather than just read aloud from the test screen but if this skill is hard for you or if you are panicked or if you're in a time crunch and the best you can do in that moment is just read the question aloud as she did and then get into your details I would say do that for now until you've picked up the skills necessary to move past that she still got a level nine even though she sort of read off the test screen so that does happen more often than not um so I guess Anastasia it's not the end of the world if you take a few words here and there from the testing screen I just always say try your best to use your own language right but it's hard it's hard on a test and we recognize that too yeah practice practice perfect as one of our test takers would say um somebody else talked about so this is a question that I can answer Brandy feel free to jump in also uh the major challenge I have is not being able to get feedback on my writing and speaking skills while I practice how do I overcome this challenge please so one of the positive things there were many negative things but one of the positive things that came out of covid was that all of our prep providers started delivering their preparation lessons online so you can find on our website c.ca you can find uh prep programs that's what they're called um and you can look at all the options available to you within your country if you have something if you prefer actually going to a physical location and learning from a like person in real life you can definitely um look for that option but you can also find scores of online tutors available on our website and why I'm stressing on going through our website is because they are all certified by us so we have a selfup certification program for instructors and for PE coaches who want to train you um and once they get the selfup certification they will be listed on our website as um people that you can learn from so definitely go to our website and check out and find somebody that works for you um online or a physical location but they we have quite a few people there and they should be able to uh provide kind of support on speaking and uh your speaking and writing responses yeah and I can add to that as well that sometimes like not always because we're all so busy but on OCC um on our own Instagram channel so ashwat and I go live once a month give or take just to do a casual ask me anything episode but sometimes as well I go livee with outside organizations that have embedded very strictly through the cell pip account and we do partnered episodes together all about selfit prep and so on so if you see these episodes posted to our channel that would be a very good source the the organizations that we're working alongside you can be rest assured that the information you're getting there is very valid so again if if you were to follow their channels on Instagram you'll very likely also have access to a lot of wonderful prep ideas many times for free if all you're looking at his Instagram posts and so on so there's lots of ways you have to be a little creative sometimes because I acknowledge I myself would love to sit down and work with people oneon-one and give them tips on their writing and speaking but I am one person there's no way I'd have time to do that with everybody who's studying for selfit and that's unfortunately why we don't have a program that does that so again if we if we can't have exactly that I want one with the organization then yeah find other ways that you can I know these prep programs to do cost money some of them if you were to take a class so as I say you might if if money is an issue at least you still have access to some of these lives that go on that do give you the tips that you need for writing and speaking yeah a lot of these providers they put so much effort into teaching you the solid language skills you'll need as do we so again if they're free take advantage of those find them follow them and and use them to your advantage for sure okay so I already answered your question for you zor um it's just a repeat of what Brandy has mentioned in the uh episode today somebody else was asking us about IRC about parameter levels that you need for immigration Express entry so we cannot answer that for you anything that has to do with like your CRS score or your um points um you have to go to the ircc website because they are the authority on that we are only providing you sell scores and sellup results um when do you receive the results after presenting the test so you should get your results in 3 to four days it will be a digital um report in your account um that you can then share with whoever you want okay I think we answered all the questions yeah lots of great questions today I'm really glad that we did this episode today before we take a summer break it just gives us all ideas about how to spend the next several weeks preparing I think we have another question so this is a question that was up um how many vocabulary words do we have to know to achieve eight or nine and average if you if you have a short answer for that please feel free to answer it is there any list of vocabulary most used in our daily activity we actually have a vocabulary book um you can find that also I'll try to link it in the description if I can not link it in the comments right now for you I'll try to link it in the description later on or as a comment under the episode uh but Brandy if you want to answer the first half yeah for sure yeah we do have the prep U the bookstore link like on this YouTube channel you'll have the link or if we can pull that up quickly enough as they say why you can share it in the live chat there's not there's not a steadfast rule for the number of words that you must include so this is really important as well to know about your test and I I get this type of question often um so I'm sort of debunking a myth it's not a matter of saying okay level eight I know this number of words I'm in level nine I now know this number of words what I would say is in general the more vocabulary you have the better you're going to score under the vocabulary assessment for sure but the Raiders in your speaking and writing are never going to go into your responses and count up all of the the exact words that you use right what they are looking for you to do is to demonstrate with consistency with regularity as many precise vocabulary words as possible so for instance if if you're using again I'll use a speaking task three where we're describing people shopping in a grocery store and one of the the women on that test gave her answer and she scored okay but she had some phrases in that response and she says the woman is driving her grocery cart she's putting stuff in the cart and I would say okay we know the idea but we don't drop dve a grocery cart we actually push a grocery cart and we're not putting stuff in the cart that word alone is so boring in general what are we putting in the car we're putting groceries we're putting produce we're putting bananas that type of thing so it's not a matter of how many words it's a matter of how can I demonstrate the most interesting the most accurate and the most precise vocabulary to the best of my ability and every response I give I think if you look at it from that frame Point you're going to find that your SK skills are going to um your score level actually will improve yeah don't don't frustrate Yourself by looking at numbers look at the big picture I guess is what I'm saying in a nutshell thank you Brandy I also think that one of the strategies that's worked for me even um like now much after I have I I wrote an English language test um is like you said to be more deliberate in my conversation um you know stuff is a really good example but also things is a really good example I don't know if you like my mom um I don't know Randy if you have this experience but like my mom when she's like really busy or was like needing something from me she'll like grab that thing from under that thing and I'm like what is this thing I have no idea so that has happened to me also and so I have very consciously tried to remove thing from my vocabulary so every time I have to say or thingy like you don't know what it's called like you're like oh yeah I need that plug thingy don't use thingy try like even in your regular conversation even if you've already said it take a second in your head and you're like oh I've used thingy what could I have used here so once you're like more deliberate with your conversation I think it gets better absolutely yeah as an English teacher I'm with you on that and particularly I've been teaching for the cell pit test for the last four and a half years so even more so even though as an English teacher of course my vocabulary fairly welldeveloped it has to be to teach English but even still like because I know vocab is so important important for cell pip and I do this every day and teach so many online classes whenever I'm thinking of something I do use very precise vocabulary words and it's natural for me to do that now right so it will become more natural for you after time you'll not even think of that word thing I hate those words thing and stuff my biggest pet peeves they just tell us nothing there are so many other more interesting words you could use so yeah try your best from this point forward get rid of those two words and always make an effort to come up with a more precise Choice that'll help great great thank you Brandy um you've actually given us more than an hour of your time um I really appreciate you being here and supporting all our test takers but um feel free uh feel free to end this end this meeting all right thanks so much for joining everybody and I guess we'll see you next time after a break after summer break oh the answer to our tripier question you better do that quick I will do that okay but I you can be here for that very I I will do that like afterwards I want to know the answer tell us what the answer is okay um I'm gonna just remove you off the screen just so I can share but Brandy's still here guys okay so the answer let me go back and uh share the question so we had a trivia question in the beginning the name of the full moon of July 21 2024 is derived from what animal and the answer is a buck um so it's called Buck Moon I think um as their antlers are fully grown by mid to July that's what the information is based off of and that's our trivia question for the day but thank you so much for joining us and I really appreciate that you all stayed for the entire episode it's really valuable um like watching an episode in its entirety and participating in the question and answers it's a really valuable thing I used thing again um but you know I'll I'll I'll improve it's a really is really valuable so definitely do that more often and the other thing that I wanted to mention before I say goodbye is that so we are we'll be taking a break now so we'll be taking a break um for the next couple months um we've done quite a few episodes so I'm hoping that you there isn't an episode that we like there isn't a topic that we haven't addressed already on serip live so you should be able to find all the information that you need on our selfup live playlist we also have other videos that are not specifically live videos um so there are webinar recordings and things like that this also like create the response so those are all really good suggestion uh videos as well so please um please go through our YouTube channel completely uh at during the time that we won't be doing live um another thing that I wanted to talk about was our Twitter community so it's there in the description and if it's not I'll add it in the description but basically um if you go if you're if you're using Twitter or if you have an account account on Twitter join our selip and live selip and kale live community on Twitter so um that's different from this because there are other test takers in there as well in various um levels of their Journey so somebody's written the test somebody's preparing for the test somebody is written to test once needs to write it again different types of test takers all in one place it's a great place for you to collaborate and like support each other and I'm we're F we're hoping to make sure that there aren like we are hoping to make sure that we keep that Community uh as clean off of like fraud fraudulent and like scamming um accounts that you see more often on other platforms so we're trying to make sure that that account stays as clean and as useful as possible so definitely do join us on Twitter but until next time uh I will see you and I hope you have all the luck you need for your next test bye