Exploring Polyvagal Theory and Its Critiques

Sep 15, 2024

Your Parenting Mojo Podcast Episode on Polyvagal Theory

Introduction

  • Host describes this episode as more uncomfortable than previous episodes.
  • The discomfort stems from questioning the validity of Polyvagal Theory (PVT), which has been used in host's workshops, amidst a contentious debate in the field of psychology.

Polyvagal Theory Overview

  • Developed by Dr. Stephen Porges.
  • Three defining principles:
    1. Hierarchy of the Autonomic Nervous System:
      • Safe state: Parasympathetic ventral vagal system activated; person feels safe and open to social engagement and play (ventral vagal state).
      • Mobilized state: Sympathetic nervous system activated; ready to respond to threat (fight or flee).
      • Immobilized state: Parasympathetic dorsal vagal system activated; person is shut down and unable to move.
    2. Autonomic Nervous System Regulation:
      • A built-in surveillance system assessing risk (neuroception).
      • Trauma can cause faulty neuroception, leading to spending time in fight or flight mode unnecessarily.
    3. Co-regulation:
      • Unconscious exchange of safety/danger signals through social engagement system.

Listener's Question

  • Listener Nanita questions the scientific support behind PVT, considering it potentially pseudoscientific.
  • Nanita contemplates the cultural and societal influences on scientific acceptance.

Research and Criticism of PVT

  • Dr. Paul Grossman's ResearchGate post questions evidence supporting PVT premises.
  • Grossman's critique highlights lack of evidence for three foundational premises of PVT.
  • Three core premises:
    1. Neurogenic brachycardia and RSA mediated by different branches of the vagus.
    2. Neurogenic brachycardia as a vestigial relic of the reptilian brain.
    3. Withdrawal of cardiac vagal tone as a mammalian adaptation.
  • Grossman's critique indicates lack of evidence and challenges to these premises.

Scientific Theory and Revisiting PVT

  • The definition of a scientific theory as a well-substantiated explanation.
  • Questions on the rigidity and validity of PVT over time, lack of updates or revisions to its premises.

Alternative Theories

  • Mention of alternative models: Neurovisceral Integration, Biological Behavioral, Resonance Frequency, Psychophysiological Coherence models.
  • Theories focus on heart rate variability and emotion regulation.

Evaluating the Use of PVT

  • Framework for using theories:
    1. Consider evidence against the theory and its alternatives.
    2. Evaluate potential harm from using the theory.
    3. Assess cultural fit and usefulness of the theory as a myth or story.

Conclusion and Cultural Context

  • Discussion on the importance of cultural fit in therapeutic practices.
  • Consideration of PVT as a myth or story to make sense of experiences and guide actions.
  • References to cultural healing practices and societal narratives in therapy.

Addendum: Scientific and Cultural Considerations

  • Emphasis on the need for broader perspectives beyond scientific reductionism.
  • Critique of the Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP) for lack of scientific validation.
  • Discussion on the societal implications of passivity encouraged by PVT.

Final Thoughts

  • Encouragement to balance safety with awareness of societal issues.
  • Acknowledgment of the complexity of integrating scientific, cultural, and personal narratives in understanding and managing psychological experiences.