hey h GRE hope you stop you this is your boy n o r e what up it's DJ efn and this is [ __ ] dream CH podcast make some n it get it and right now legendary [ __ ] we have what I would like to call the king of Hip Hop what I would like to call the king of alternate what I mean by that is after your career has been done he's the person who put out the blueprint right for what you supposed to do after your Rhymes this [ __ ] is the King of Queens I'm saying it I'm from Queens I feel like I have the authority he's the King of Queens the King of New York the king of hip hop first artist ever signed to Death Jam records which means that I might have not existed if it wasn't for this [ __ ] would have existed a lot of people would existed even on DMC wasn't even on Death Jam this real [ __ ] and right now we got the Godfather I might I might just call him the father a [ __ ] Queens New York and everything else we got lkj in the [ __ ] building make that love appreciate that love L listen can I call you of course in my mind in my mind I always call you Uncle l in my mind I don't know why like I just like even when you say what's up to me I be like Uncle L how you know like I just I got so much respect for you thank you and not for you man and then and then you came to my hood though you remember you came to my hood yo it made me like and then Run DMC came too and Diggy Simmons came and then Diggy Simmons he's he smash me all the little girls in my hood now but um he put a foul thought in his mind he want picture that you got run run running around putting out fir on but Al we got it's not his baby I don't care what you say it's not his baby but L I got to I got to I got to tell you how how how important you mean the Queens thank you man uh not only Queens because if you look at Queens you look at people like you Nas Run DMC you got to look at the whole spectrum of hip-hop yeah so if you say a person was a leader of Queens a person was actually the leader of a whole generation so now you have people like Drake you have people like jyu you have people all these people who actually they can't say that they didn't pattern their style after you right how do you feel about that well you know um you know hip-hop is you know you know hip-hop is a complex thing man I mean at the end of the day like you know you know if you're a decent looking fell you got to damn near kill yourself to be accepted by dudes you know what I mean by dud yeah pretty much I mean look at Pac you know his handsome dude but look what he had to do in order for guys to accept you know I mean if if I made one more chance they would have called it a love song but from biggie it was something else you know what I Manan that's C so you know it's kind of like you know you got to you got to have it takes courage to do what you love and to do what you believe in you know what I'm saying and that was my thing it wasn't a matter of you know I just wanted to have girls you know what I mean I I you know most of my friends did too I mean for the most part you know I figured I'd make some songs and try to get something you know I didn't you know I didn't realize that that was like you know cuz you know the thing with hip-hop is that you know if you're not if you not hit if you're not spitting gun bars and talking about packs you that go is going to be elusive for you because you know most of the time the voting members that's what they really you know the fell really that's what they really want and and I too you know what I'm saying but you know I I just decided that I was going to do what I wanted to do I I had the balls to just do what I wanted to do so you know I did hard records and love records and hard records and weird records and creative artsy [ __ ] do you think because I I think that l l perfected the hard record and then the crossover record after that and then biggie kind of took that style and the reason why I want to ask you have you ever thought like that because of the flavor in your a was like they kind of try to keep you closer this is me as a fan I have no well flavoring your I mean flavoring first of all flavoring your is so crazy cuz so many people thought he [ __ ] I thought saw my [ __ ] or some [ __ ] you know what I mean no I never heard this story like you know what I mean pervs running around here man like what he talking about no homie I wasn't talking about that um shout out to my man top five that was something that we used to say all the time you know what I'm saying just to when it was on and popping I had no idea that when they was going to spell out the syllables we was going to be in you know all with all love and respect you know [ __ ] you know what I mean I didn't know he was going to be there you know with all love and respect to everybody you know do what you want I ain't beefing you know what I'm saying but um uh yeah you know look man whether it's big or Nas or you know the other guys like I respect all the artists for what they do you know what I'm saying and um respect anybody who's original and and and does it from the heart does it from the soul like you know I was listening to that Kendrick record and when he had said uh um you know he does it from the soul you do it you know for you it comes from the meds something I'm paraphrasing you know what I'm saying um I just love I love hip-hop you know I love the culture you know I love everything about it but the thing was you know also at the same time you know I was never going to be a slave to the music business you dig so meeting that the first time that I went and sat down and said yo I'd like to get x amount as an advance to this album and somebody like they shoulders shook a little bit I said you br your radio and you br your radio this is after that when I BR the radio I have took a hero get yeah yeah yeah but you know how soon we forget so you know but uh I just you know look man I just like to do everything you know I I don't feel like you should limit yourself you know if you have the tent you have the talent to do many things you shouldn't be afraid to do that cuz dreams don't have deadlines and you know a lot of times you know in our culture MH especially in the black community and as young males you know we we get boxed in to what marginalized well no not just marginalized by mainstream Society but boxed in in the sense that you know you feel like there's certain things you might have dreams but you don't think it's cool you know what I'm saying you might want you might be in an origami you might be in a something like like knitting like blankets like and putting them over gates like you think cuz you're not a rapper or you're not a a basketball player you're not cool and we and we take we do that to ourselves with our music too because we don't give our we don't give ourselves Freedom you know what I'm saying like we don't give ourselves the freedom to do what we want to do we always feel like you know every every time I make a song I got to worry about what what this particular set of friends thinks forget my imagination but I might be imagining some other [ __ ] it's not that I don't want to make records that my friends like but I'm what if I think of something else why can't I do that right why can't I do that and so that's the thing that I kind of I always acted on that impulse you know I never um you know I never was like I just wouldn't listen to that you you know what I mean like I just do what I want to do cuz Who Do You Love yo but I gotta I got to get to this I never yo I've been seeing you for 20 years M and I'll never ask you this question what is pink cookies in a plastic bag my brother get Crush my building getting crushed by crushed by I ain't going to lie I've been going with whatever any [ __ ] said I tell you I'll tell you said put on you have an idea of what it means sense no no I was on the phone with a girl right and um you know I was at Marley studio and she was talking Marley mise Mar building yeah and I um I had uh I had smell some weed but I didn't inhale you know and U and uh you know after I had smelled the weed um you know after smelling the weed I laid on the couch and I was talking to this girl and she said I was like you know yeah yeah she was like what are you talking about I said baby I don't know I'm thinking about P cookies in a plastic bag getting crushed by Builders right now and she said she said what what and when she said what I was like oh that's a song back I said yo momy I said yo momy let's get it so I went downstairs you know what I mean made the record yo I knew it I knew let me tell you something it was so complicated that I knew the explanation was massive simple yeah yeah it wasn't yeah yeah I you know I Ain yeah yeah I'm not even I ain't come here to lie and run for office it what it was you know and I had miniature satellites floating in closets spying In Pockets I had a few of them right I got more of them jumping out of C football um jumping out of a helicopter into a a football stadium filled with cotton candy and [ __ ] all kind of [ __ ] tell you some crazy [ __ ] I'm going tell you one thing L I know you don't know you taught me this I know you don't know you taught me this but I was on a top 40 tour right M and I only have seven dates on the top 40 tour you had like 70 right I had 70 and I didn't ride on a private jet I was commercial everybody else but was you fat Joe uh Puff Daddy JY Ru this is this this this this that tight but I got seven days so every date that I I had had with you like you had your room and then you had your room for your people right and I never disrupted you I never came in there but there was one day I was like you can I speak to L and L was like who is it and they said nor he said let that [ __ ] in here and I felt like you was Shadow Boxing I don't know I do that before the show so you came in and I said yo Al because you had gave out roses this like you had gab Out Roses right so I said oh like I'm I'm 18 19 at the time I'm So Young so I'm like oh every girl in the crowd is for you why are you not out there and you know what she told me huh you said I roll my wife and I said why and he said because I never get in trouble yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and let me tell you something to this day I roll my wife yeah yeah yeah yeah I roll my wife that godamn it because you you really don't you know why give the money back you know what I mean it's mine it's mine I'm not giving it back like easy like right and you know the crazy thing is younger brothers come up to me and be like yo Nory why are you rolling with your wife and I just be like I'm going to use that now would you say I don't want the money back the money back but you know you know I you know I you know I had moments Nori in my life you know I mean I've uh you know you know uh you know no I'm I'm L now not yeah but I you know but at yeah we can't yeah you got a you got easy tiger you know it's it's rough out there out some deep water out there baby didn't know though when you told me that I was like Al buing and then I had to actually live and then when I lived I said so you thought he was bugging out when he told you that oh no I I I in my mind I probably said he's [ __ ] like in his face and then years later I was like you got it I understand that reminds me of a story I was you know I won't say his name cuz I don't want to embarrass say his name nobody listens to us rap dude right it's rap dude you know back in the day he came up to me like yo L yo L you know let me hold something you know he told some paper yo let me hold something and I you know I I tried to tell him about um he's like yo let me hold something and I tried to tell him you know talk to him about stocks and bonds and [ __ ] like that he was like yo man you talk about some stock let me hold something man stocks and Bs [ __ ] so that reminds me of that like at a point at some you're not you you only can understand it when you're ready for it you dig what I'm saying not ready for it and a lot of times you know and that's true with music too cuz you can do music and put it out there and people just don't understand it and it flies over their head and they catch it later you know what I'm saying sometimes that happens too who ever seen LL perform before I se raise your hands goddamn it there should be more people raising their [ __ ] hands let me just tell you something at one point in the show he takes off his shirt he just give Every Woman a flower yeah and they super wet you could just tell cuz the heads are getting wet she's like damn you are you wet like that's the goal and and yo so I'm I'm a kid I'm 18 19 years old Chris lighty's like yo you gotta go you gotta follow L I'm like all right cool and I'm doing it they all on private planes it's okay I'm getting there it's commercial but it's okay I'm still happy and I'm like Al and Al is like he knocked none of them down I couldn't believe it like At first I was like y yeah yeah yeah and you was so content and now I live like do you improve my lifestyle what I the moral police you seven wiv inom I I Ain judging baby Pro the last dude that's ever going to judge you is me I still need you to prove my leg just say I I proove I prove you know what I mean I'm J and I approved this message I live 10 years behind you cuz you know my I got Halloween in my closet all type of Bones and costumes and type of B get away from that wrist BS back spines hanging over the closet door skulls so on man I got to ask you this for this this is not for the for the podcast this is not for anything this is because I sincerely respect I love LJ I looked up to LJ but you did kind of crush cannabis career early and I never knew why like me personally like you don't know why no I I know I know the industry answer why I mean you know the real did he disrespect you in the session what happened cuz you're a queen's [ __ ] and I respect whatever way you tell you exactly what happened you know um I mean the real honest answer is that you know one day you know we was I was on my way to the studio and he came up to me and you know and you know my you know uh cuz you CR my e was a little taller than me I'm not his my was a little taller than me a little bit so I you know he walked up and he was like yo L you know yo you're tattoo man I like your tattoo I'm going get one like that I said nah homie you know you got to get your own you know you know I didn't understand that like mentally like I I just didn't understand that n man you get your own joint like I didn't really no I just didn't understand it like it was no disrespect I was like you got your own like no I'm get one like that and then after we had that conversation when I got when I went in and heard his bars he said is that a mic on your arm let me bar that and I just like was like I just did not understand I just yo I couldn't understand it homie I just I I blicked I blicked and that was it take me from that moment but is it true that he already had is it true that you already had your verse and then you changed it is that no no no the the truth is I went in I heard what he said and I responded to the [ __ ] that's the truth on your record you didn't take him off I was too ignorant for that a smart guy you know Jay-Z would have took him off the Record you know let's do it smart I was an idiot think anybody ever did that ignorance just ignor I'mma tell you something I'mma tell you something at that time I was running around Death Jam and Leo con said and I when Leo op for some reason and he said Nori do you know what's going on but I'm acting like I'm I'm dumb I'm like no he said LL is battling cannabis but M he's dead serious so I'm just looking at him but mind you I know I know what's going on but I'm like what n he's like yo but thene yeah yeah but see the thing is what people don't know is that I you know after that I saw him cannabis and and his career well no no no this before the battle I saw him and I said yo he was debating about putting a song about me out I said yo don't I I went to him I said yo you know what okay it happened on the record I said first of all nobody's going to know if you don't make a record I said that's the first thing I never knew that's a very important part of the story I told him this so you saying before reaction before his reaction record came out I met with him and I said y I said yo I said put no record out nobody's going to know just leave it and you know I got a little highed let's just leave yeah was between us I said leave he said oh no if I don't put it out it'll be politics I'm like and I'm like you know and then W's over in the corner a and the betting and [ __ ] yeah W [ __ ] him up [ __ ] him up you know me you [ __ ] him up you Gass him up to the wrong battle we love you w n no I love it's all good so but then he put the record out and then you know then the cuz I told him I said yo let's just do a record together oh you know what I mean you said that yes I said that to a person I said we should have did a let's just do a record together we could you know cuz I didn't really want the drama but you know it is what it is you know and then I you know I just responded and that was it you know and we we did what we did and you know around knock out and the Ripper and you crushed his career let's make some noise for L Crush we ain't got to make no noise don't worry about it we going to make noise for you and don't don't forget Kumo D and him too going I'm going to Kum but how did Kumo these [ __ ] started how did that start um cuz it seems like L you might not start it but you definitely finished well I said I said on the record I said I'm only 18 making more than your pops and he felt offended by that what I'm only 18 making more than your pops and he was offended cuz he thought it was the wrong message was making more Pops well no no he thought I was sending a a bad message to to young kids out there like I was cuz I you know look the when I coming up when I was growing up you know 16 17 18 like 17 18 19 I I was always with Rich Porter I was always with Alpo and and AZ and my man big Chuck from Mount Veron took me with them so that's who I used to be always hanging up I would be on 132 and you know I was always up town not not fat cat even though he was from Queens I know Prim and I knew you know the Fado brothers and all of them I knew I knew them but I was like a shorty for real drug I was a I was I was a shorty so when I like when I knew the fatos they was giving me warm champagne like he man you're begging for champagne you know what I mean but when I started hanging out with we got cold champag I got C all the champagne is cold now it's not I don't take it personal make sure so when I you know when I used to hang with with you know with Alpo and when chuck would take me around and hang with Alpo and a and and Rich and all of them and black just used to come a little later later on um may he rest in peace um you know I just came up you know in a different you know thought process you know what I'm saying and I I just try to do things right you know what I mean that's all basically did you know bie was the biggest drug dealer in Queens when you was hanging with him at one point I'm sorry yeah I'm sorry I know Bim Bim is my man you know what I'm saying I I hung with Bim you know you know the whole time I you know I I was I I I saw I saw Bim in some of his initial escapades he got freckles you don't know he's singing cocaine but you know what the thing is about that what people have to understand about that is that first of all we don't want to glorify that it's not cute we do not um and it's a tough life and it destroys lives and and most of the guys that are really doing it for real wish they weren't okay and the ones that are really successful at it really wish they were successful at something else anything else this is a horrible way to live okay and we can front and act like it isn't but it is it's a very tough way to live all right cuz I've seen it firsthand for real and um but you know it it it it taught me a lot though I learned a lot you know I forgot the point I was trying to make cuz I was no because you know why you know I I'm telling you the point that you you trying to make because at one point oh Kumo d right so so so basically he thought that I was glorifying that lifestyle when I said 18 so he wanted to you know be conscious about that but what he didn't understand is that you going to crush no that I'm an 18yearold young man and I don't know anything else but this you know when you're growing up in the hood when you're growing up in crush yeah but when you're growing up in the hood and and I see a car drive by that's all I know it a and I see a guy how he gets it that's all I know it's not about I'm not even thinking about right and wrong and consequences and ruining my life and you don't even think on that level that doesn't even come into your brain the only thing you think is I'm here and the money's there and where do I got to go to get it that's all you really think about now when you're older you get in your 30s your late 20s and you know maybe even 40 you can start reflecting and kind of cleaning up your life so I think he had the right intention but the problem was that he wasn't merciful in understanding that I was a young kid and this is all I was thinking now on the MC level you know you know I I've never shot away from trying to snap somebody's head off I mean I'm not going to lie you know I feel like you still want to battle right now you know the giant wi cut right now I feel like you still want to battle a [ __ ] right now if a [ __ ] [ __ ] I felt like you was going to beat up Charlamagne recently what happened Dam did I you my thing no no no no my thing my my thing with homie is you know you know he he he likes to get on the radio and bully people you know what I'm saying okay I don't like bullies me neither you know what I'm saying I really don't like bullies and you know I understand he's a smart guy I get that but the bully thing didn't work for me and I felt like he was picking on me in undermining my my my my brand and my my my My Vibe you know what I'm saying but I wasn't going to go up there and do the baby thing I just told him look I just told him listen would you go no no let me let me I was going to go there and do that I I love baby that's my man but I wasn't doing that I'm not going to go to your show and be on camera at your show talking [ __ ] with you why you make money we not doing that and by the way that's the most viewed I'm sure I'm sure it is and I'm sure he saw a lot of sponsorship but my thing was look you know I said look let's just box a charity you know I give 100 300,000 to beat people up I got no but I was aggravated you're going to get Su no no no not for charity not when you boxing for charity I'm not I'm going to be honest I'm going be honest with you nobody want to box for I didn't want to you know listen I don't just say this I don't want I'm not I have no problems with him I wish him the best just leave me alone and don't pick on me don't pick on I don't like to get you know youbody out there watching this pocket no I can't I don't claim to everybody in hipop I no don't get carried away but there's some crazy but everybody watching this podcast don't bully don't be bullies and don't pick on people because that was my only problem with home and you felt like he was picking on you yeah because he's always got something to say like he doesn't understand like I give you an example like you know everybody was mad at me and I understand that point of view but everybody was mad at me about you know the whole accidental racist record you know what I'm saying and that was a big convers right and they thought you know oh El's you know Aiden in the betting us for getting slave listen to your verse your verse when you saying the change yeah they but what they didn't understand is that you know now fast forward and look at the shape the countryes in and you think about what me and him was attempting to do it was ideological but look at where the shape the country's in Now You Dig people at that point thought that I was out of my mind for talking comparing a dag to a Confederate flag but now you seeing little brothers get shot down every day because of their outfits whether it's a hoodie it may not be a dag but maybe it's a hoodie with Trayvon maybe it's some sagging jeans maybe it's a brother outside of a SUV getting shot down that's the thing I was talking about I was trying to humanize I would never suggest that we forget our history that's absurd it's ludicrous but you got to be willing to like I give you another example like people was mad at me when I said oh rip robery Lee oh I hate how could he say that Rober Lee rip Rober Lee they they hated me he was a general in the Confederate Army yeah yeah I understand how people feel but when that when that racist dude ran up in that church and he shot up all of those people in that black church down south and then those black people got together and said you know what you know we praying for him and we forgive them and we want to send love to him the country held them in high esteem because they were able to get Pond their emotions and see the bigger picture and that's what I was trying to show people you know what I'm saying but it took four years and all of these people dying by the hands of of corrupt police cuz not all police are corrupt you know what I mean but Dying by the hands of some of these corrupt policemen and dying at the hands of of in the wrong way for people to understand that what I was saying and what me and Brad were attempting to do was very real you know what I'm saying but that's why that whole they laugh at you then they ignore you then they fight you then you win thing is true because they laughed at us then you know SN now everybody was laughing at us you know but then when you re and then they ignored us but now look at what's going on now they trying to fight that same they trying to promote those same Vibes those same values that we talked about so you know that's about the courage that's about art you know that's what art does it provokes people you know what I'm saying I just want to say to you if you don't know how much you appreciate in hip-hop no but I appreciate hip-hop no but listen let me just tell you something if it wasn't forj it wouldn't be a Nas it wasn't for a Nas it wouldn't be a mob deep wasn't for a mob deep they wouldn't be a component orer so me personally I want to look at you face to face eye to eye manto man and tell you how much that not only Queens because we're not Queens it's limited even though Queens We Run the World y'all can make noise for that yeah your man is from Queens even though we from Queens We R the world but from Queens that's pretty funny I did hear that he is I did hear that are you kidding me I had a condo around the corner from his from his house being rich for 20 years godamn it had a condo around trump godamn it I'm not going to lie I was this close to buying a condo next in his building cuz it's it was cost eff Ive cost effective nor being rich effective condo and the Trum [Applause] joint I do the hell my yo but you came one day I'm shooting a blood Money video yeah the most disrespectful record on my album and I call for LL Cool J come through and llj comes through my [ __ ] Hood well first of all I always love your music a no no no I always loved your music I always felt your music you know what I'm saying what all of that you know I mean you introduced the world to the Neptunes and all that I mean you put make for that you put forel on the mat but I I met forel because of you I came to your session and met forel wow and that's when I did love you better I ended up ultimately doing love you better than all America but I you know you you've done a lot you know you're an important person what we doing that's why the podcast is so successful I've been watching it been watching episodes deal with CBS and me and efn we got some deals to bring you I got you cing I got you cing I got a lot of stuff yeah yeah I got some no no no and the lip sync battle yeah was that your idea or was that was somebody else well the idea came from uh John krinski and Steve Merchant and they brought it you know through Jimmy sound I don't know who they are but they sound Rich they sound Rich they're rich now um and uh and came to us and uh basically you know but I own the format along with my partners and um we've sold a format in over 150 countries around the world and we have like a a partnership with like Carnival Cruises and uh you know the app is starting to grow now and really doing well um the lip sync battle app and uh I mean the show and we've also um we have different versions of the show around the world so like in Thailand there's like a you know it' be a thae host doing their Li sying battle and we just did like Ukraine and we did a deal in Russia and we did a deal you know in China we just did a big deal in China for for lip sync battle so that thing is is global and then you know what people don't know is with like NCIS SLA I also have a a vested interest in the show I'm not just an actor on the show I have an act the guy Sam with the shirts on catching terrorists and um and that's in 200 countries around the world as well you know what I'm saying so it's it's you know it's really going well it's going well yeah listen I'm not going to lie when I looked at hip-hop right I was tired of hip-hop I was just tired like I mean I loved it I still wanted to make it but I couldn't God bless the dad after Chris Lighty died I couldn't actually attack it the way I wanted to attack it so I said [ __ ] it let me just think of something else right and all I did was look at you I looked at you and said what the [ __ ] is L doing and Al you in shape I'm not I wasn't in shape back then I'm you're in shape you good now I'm a little I'm a little okay you look like you know you doing hand or something like you got something I be watching I be watching your watching your Instagram but be watching your Instagram killing me oh [ __ ] my Instagram I sat back and I said what can I do to do something else other than hiop because music just gets boring even if you're making money music just gets boring but you know what no let me tell you something man I don't I don't feel that way I think um my thing is I just never limit myself and like I said if you have more than one Talent you should utilize them all you know what I'm saying um if you're a Dion Sanders and you can play baseball and football play both play both um you know music is not off the table for me you know I'm not telling you that I'll never make another record it's just right now make record well right now my priority is tainment you great business move great move I'm sorry I love it that was that was no it's beautiful so I you know I'm not saying it's off the table but you know you got to you got to try different things you got to you know you got to move you got to you know what I'm saying like make things happen and not be like afraid to like fall back for a second like I'm Not Afraid like I don't feel like you know if I if I make a song it'll be like I never left as soon as after the record go off cuz n Tod yeah this movie oh yeah that was yeah that was you stuck a pole stick up a [ __ ] ass yeah yeah yeah eightball back pocket I didn't know you actually took the you took you took the eightball too I just th the sck I'm sorry Al I didn't know you put a a pool you went you went there yeah but you know don't worry out don't worry don't worry the videos you know the movies and stuff sorry yeah n it's all up Uncle when it comes to the uh the movies I don't limit myself with the characters whatever role it is you know um I'm not above any role or below any role it's if if I respond to the role and I feel like it's something good I'll do it right now I'm playing Sam Hanah on NCIS Los Angeles is a lot of fun going into a season I'll be seeing like this you you you pull out your gun very professional now but let me tell you why tell tellal n he talking about hitting them with know you know all that all yeah I went down to like cam Pendleton and um train with like the Marines and the special ops guys the sailors down there um you know uh hung out with a a master gunner res sergeant from the Marines who taught me a lot of I I went to swat school you know and did a lot of t the [ __ ] in his ass yeah hit him in he got what the next question do you eat yeah no he stuck he stuck the [ __ ] in his ass well yeah that sh [ __ ] me up in real life [ __ ] him up to and I knew you I was good but when I see that I was like oh my God I was like oh my God and he was like oh that was a brutal scene if you haven't seen too deep go check it out it's a brutal scene Brut SC it's a brutal scene yeah but but going back to music real quick you're one of the first New York artists to kind of Be by Coastal when you worked with pooh La posi and all them how did that come about um basically what happened was uh you know at that time you know after my first album Rick Rubin left Death Jam right and uh we were trying to figure out what what my next move was going to do be because he produced my first album the whole first album yeah yeah we did the whole first album together um it was his first album too full album and um so after that no no no he can't just say that nothing Make some noise for that so after that hey Yool cameras you got to start climbing too clapping too I understand y filming but listen Revol cameras you got to clap too I'm sorry you too tattoo guy all right let's go terrible terrible sorry so n so you know uh you know I went and uh Russell had heard you know the LA posi because they had made some records that he felt was in the zone so he introduced me to him I met Bobcat um big out to Bob you know yeah from La La West Coast you know La all your first reing wasn't wasn't um the radio who mine my first album was radio my first song was I need a beat my first song came out 1984 it was I need a beat then I had I was born in 77 yeah well thank you for giving my childhood you know what me thank you for giving my childhood the second one came out like 85 the album came out like ' 85 and then it went from there but the the second album came out around ' 87 but the first album was on Death Jam it was on Death Jam yes because T Rock it's yours was on Def Jam Productions it was an imprint on Street on party time it was Party Time Records it was Def Jam Productions and and Rick was having problems him and Russell having problems getting the money from party time for the is yours record so they decided to start their own label and um and I was the flagship artist and we made first album and I actually you know side not I owned a piece of De Jam as well and I sold it yeah yeah I sold it back to them we didn't know that yeah yeah but the first record was radio radio on Rock The Bells radio all of that was on first record yeah they went and got to deal with uh the bell went and got to deal with no no no CBS CBS yeah colia building CBS colia we got CBS right here in the building cheers CBS digit yeah yeah you know Queens [ __ ] get money with CBS oh yeah it's certainly a PS you pour me a drink I [Applause] need you remember scar said there's an answer to that too Tony yo this is what I want I want you to describe back in the days cuz it was so rough walking down Jamaica AB oh God I mean I mean listen people think it's rough walking down Jama AB in 2017 and they have no idea what it was in the 80s and the '90s can you describe it was like every any piece of clothing that you had on that was mildly mildly or remotely valuable was like asking people to rob you like like if you had a pair of gazel on you want buy somebody your gazel would say to them excuse me could you take me it was the gazel were talking if you had a sheep skin it be like hey I'm a sheep skin come over and get me Ro hey take me off of him please he's not cool enough to have me on come on get me please it was crazy yo it was crazy and listen I want to describe to people listen let me describe to people because one day Nas just told me he said one day me and N just kicking it we talking and N said and he came to left rack and he's like he came left raack he was like I can't believe the amount of respect that nobody don't bother you here and I was like this is my hood right he said do you imagine what Al Al went through in those days mind you we had no facts but remember remember I you know you know I was hanging with you know the guys I was hanging with I wasn't really having a lot of problems like you know like you hear these weird rumors oh LL got thrown through a Coliseum window never heard I'm a que I'm a queen for real I heard oh yeah you know you know know who you was with was I was I was with guys that was so official and thorough in the street that you know I you know I mean it I wasn't having those issues you know and um and I wasn't looking for him either cuz you know what I've learned I don't I never I never in my life have tried to be a tough guy and I never hung around gangsters and Tred to act like I was one because that's how you get yourself in trouble just be who you are that's deep just be yourself you know what I mean and so I never had a lot of issues I had a few fights I you know I grew up fighting you know I wasn't you know having shootouts we could tell you shut can down knew you could fight you know a couple of people you know I I had a coule of done moments okay I'll tell you a funny story when I was a little kid just a little Mischief so when I was a little kid you know when it was snow outside we decided it was a good idea you know to take like no no no to take rocks and cinder blocks and cover them with snow and then throw them at cars like don't ask me why we thought this was a good idea right you know what so one day so one day I'm in my grandmother's yard and I throw a goddamn big ass rock with snow around it cuz you know the car's not going to stop they say oh look at the little kids with snowballs and it's like go right why did yo we was so we was in there we my man came around the corner and I was looking over there and I seen the window roll down like that all I seen was little flashing lights y I was running I hid behind a snow Mound right did you hear me a snow m a snow Mound bullets was flying all through the joint baby about snow Mound and then I like ran fell down and a a a a basement oh cuz hom was shooting at yes he was shooting at me the flashing lights was the gun going off you know what I mean Flashing Lights Kanye lights yeah they busted the lights lights and I like ran and you know how the in Queens the basement windows got that that I don't know what you call it's like a you know it's like a thing down at the on the house for the so you can open the basement window so I fell down there tore my ankles up and all that so I had a little Mischief in my life a little bit but for the most part I stayed out of trouble you know what I mean no and I'm sorry to bring this up but I have to bring it up we all was managed by violated the management we all was under the toig I don't know if that's a word but you know what I mean yeah it is of Chris Lighty right I asked 50 Cent this I asked all violated artists when they come on here like how did it cuz it's still affecting me well first of all I love Chris deeply and um his daughter Tiffany is is a good de friend of my my my kids and uh she's at the house all the time and uh you know she hangs with my wife and hangs with the kids and all that um first of all Chris and my relationship was a little different from probably yours in 50s because Chris got into business after me so we had a different you was already yeah yeah I was already so you know we had a different type of relationship you know and um you know we were friends right and uh we were you know I looked at you know we looked at each other as counterparts and he managed me he did he made a lot of things for me but our relationship you know was um what you think all what you think let's get X let's get y like I remember when he was interning at De jam and stuff like that but the thing I remember most about Chris is that he was a really really really really smart guy mhm and he was a good dude right and he wasn't soft like I remember Chris used to let me in the tunnel when he was a bodyguard at the tunnel Chris used to do security at the tunnel yeah Chris used to do security at the tunnel and he'd be outside with bulletproof I I heard he was running the tunnel I never heard his security oh yeah yeah yeah he please tell us please tell us Chris was Chris was you know he may have been involved in the business aspects too but when I seen Chris he had a bulletproof vessel on outside the front door like yo and IO was like Mr Smith Mr Smith come on in yo he's yo he's like the good fella you know he was a gangster you know Chris was he was a real guy I'm glad I met him later yo yo he was yo I'm telling you and um but I mean all of your all of the people you know like I'll tell you just to switch gears for a minute like Leo the first time I met Leo Leo was a promoter in LA and when I met him he came to pick me up from the airport cuz I had a show where he was a promoter in Los Angeles when you say la not Los Angeles not LA Los Angeles he knew where I was going and and the the driver's door didn't didn't open I mean the passenger door didn't open you had to get in the car through the driver's side both of us and we drove and he was telling me how we going to change hip hop and let me tell you something he was prophetic though cuz everything he talked about came true but he was very much you know I mean this was a guy that was walking around with you know no laces in his sneakers you know behind chasing behind Jam Master J with a joint in his mouth you know what I'm saying like he was a real like like he wasn't this the corporate Titan that he ultimately became but I always had respect for him because Leo is the one who made the deal see I own my whole catalog you still you owned it from the beginning I own my no I didn't but I owned It ultimately with my deal you know when I got to a certain position with Def Jam I did a deal where I own my catalog right Leo is the one that did that deal wow so I have to always respect Leo for that because you know he didn't have to do it they were trying to figure out how to make a deal that was rich enough for me to want to stay right and you know at the same time they wanted to come up to a certain number but not go beyond that so you know I said well you know give me a catalog they said okay we we worked that out we got the catalog So Def Jam has a really small interest in my catalog I I own it and so when you hear LL Cool J song all that all that when you L your own mama say Cali mama said I need love all that Mama say yeah yeah mama said yeah all that that godam you know so when you hear my my records in movies and on TV and stuff I've licensed that you know anytime you hear LL Cool J song LL has licensed it okay that's another goal I'm going to take after you yeah I took I took the wife [ __ ] it worked out and the No but let me tell you something let me be let me be transparent the Reon the reason I'm sharing this is because I don't think the hip-hop Community understands a lot of the things that you know I've been doing in my career I think that it's been kind of a mystery and I never was a guy that like asked my publicist to get me in fors I I've never been the guy who really um went out of his way to try to Market myself as smart I I just never did that because I came from more of a pure place that just want to rock the mic you know and it was never like I give you another thing like there was this whole rumor back in the days that oh LL coolj you know he's upset because he didn't become the president of Def Jam which is can I can I just say something like I can't even describe to you how ultimately and utterly ridiculous that is and let me explain to you why why would look I'm I'm I'm I wanted you to be do Michael Jackson want to be the president of uh mtown like I Ain conf I don't relate to Michael Rel to L I wanted to be the president I never wanted that I wanted to make music see but I wanted to get a budget from you I know you were it's a beautiful thing maybe maybe maybe me with maybe but the thing is the thing is I just always I just wanted to be an artist Nori like I I'm not ashamed of being a a rapper like I don't I don't need to I don't need to convince you that I'm more than a rapper like I'm okay with that that's all all I want to do is be a rapper and be the best rapper like that's what I grew up wanting to do so let me ask you something right as a rapper right when you hear stories like with little Wayne Right Where Little Wayne is getting maybe taking advantage of we don't really know yeah we already know what we see it's nothing you know what let me tell you something there's there's nothing that little Wayne did wrong and I'll tell you why I'll tell you why because like I told you I own my catalog and I told told you that ultimately I got a great deal but you know what if Russell was the worst P person in the world he could have easily taken advantage of me he could have easily gave me one of those Bozo deals that you hear nightmares about but you know what Russell wasn't that kind of guy you know what I'm saying I mean you know early on we did my publishing 50/50 ultimately I got all my publishing back of course but early on it was like that but even then with my first contract he only went 50/50 he didn't take it all so so a lot of that a lot of times when you hear about guys with bad deals that says more about the executives that they were dealing with than the actual artists it's not about them being dumb it's not about them being dumb cuz you know what some guys I give them credit like some of the guys you know like I told you I hung around a lot of Street guys but I wasn't that's not who I was right I wasn't a hustler personally those were just my friends but so some guys who are actually hustles Hustlers and actually had that life they get to benefit from all the experiences that they had hustling so when they come into the game they're able to make better deals earlier but some of us because we weren't hustlerism because we didn't experience you know getting cheated and screwed and scammed we didn't we were just innocent kids rapping we may have been from a rough Community but we were really just innocent kids who loved rhyming so when you go in and you sign your deal it's not the greatest deal in the world cuz you just excited to be there and you don't have that maturity and that grit and that you know that Grizzle that allows you to you know make a better deal early so some of these guys did benefit there were benefits for some of them some benefited some didn't but I don't blame any of these younger artists you know now what I would say is that now with the internet Because the Internet wasn't what it was well it you there's access to information you have information out there so you got to want the information you got to want to make a great deal do you want to make a great deal are you patient do you have the balls to say no because are you comfortable saying no that was the crazy thing is when when Def Jam we got the self together I asked them like are youall bringing back LL and they never answered my question well they but but you know to be to be fair your death Jam is Leo right Kevin L Russell Simmons I'm asking no what it is is that you know look I you know when you're young and you don't know how to play the political game you you can rub people the wrong way you are the de Jam child you didn't rub nobody the wrong way no no no no but you can like what I'm saying basically is that man like you know nobody's perfect man I don't you know I don't begrudge those guys nothing because you know the resistance that I you know DME you know pressure makes diamonds man you know it can bust pipes but it makes diamonds so the resistance that that I felt and the little things that they did just encouraged me to go out there and do something greater you know what I'm saying and just do something and be a master R open another bottle oh no if I drink another bottle of Ros I might you know we might bring back to Queens we bring back goddamn champ list listen I'm going be honest yo I have never been a man more than I was the man when I had you come to my hood now I had you listen this day I had camon come to my hood I had Jim Jones Come To My Hood I had Run DMC Come To My Hood I had everybody come to my hood but the one thing that everybody said was like we're not going inside Al was the only person said I'll go inside and I'm looking at you like you sure you don't remember that you said you said I'm with you I'm good I love my people I a we ain't afraid but I still feel like you don't feel like you don't really realize how much no no let me give you a prize please I have to do it I still don't feel like you realize how much that you meant to people in Queens now efn is my partner he's from Miami he's he born in La he might have a whole totally different thing but for us in Queens there was no other [ __ ] that we wanted to be I mean Nas I mean I I I remember one time me and Fat Joe we had an hour and a half conversation of who means more to him LL to him or to me oh man that's like we going fight that's beautiful man that's the first time I Feel Like Fat Joe was going to fight I said Fat Joe you can't claim Al you from the Bronx you got to relax you got to stop I love Jo like in fact Joe was like what I love L I'm like by default you don't love him as much as I love him my default and he just didn't like I'm talking about we seriously arguing I I felt like this aru may happen six times that's crazy and I'm it's a blessing man I love it man but that that's that's how real hip hop this is what drink Champs is about I don't know if you know Al drink Champs is about giving the Our Stars flowers when they can smell them and giving them trees when they can inhale them yeah yeah because every other genre every other music when these people become icons or Classics they support them why doesn't hip-hop have that platform well you know no Lop have this platforming we are doing it godamn it five goam don't you get smart on me you get smart on me don't do we got it already drink at where your drink at yo hey yo listen L coj came to left Rack City and I'm going to be honest I was so embarrassed cuz I was like I was like yo you know you need walk through you walk through I was like I hope a crack didn't pee and it was mad pee in the and I'm looking at L I'm like this nigga's going to leave act like he he didn't smell the pee he didn't see the pee what's that what's that what's that I don't know I don't know I don't know hey hey but not only that H you not only filmed the video you actually came and chilled in Capone's van vantastic and we started watching videos remember I remember and you actually like people got to really understand how cool because you know why we put you on a pedestal in Queens and we should you deserve that pedestal and you should stay in that pedestal but at the same time people should understand how cool you are how down to earth you are how how you you'll Shake anybody hand you know what man even no matter what I'm doing in my life you know I always tell people you know I'm in Hollywood but I never went Hollywood you know what I'm saying and um you know keep talking I got peee okay like what happened you know good luck trying you going there take the cameras while he's taking the yeah I'll talk to effing um so you know that was the thing you know this a funny moment right here he's like I got to go pee PE but you know that was a thing you know that was a thing for me you know what I'm saying whatever happened to Cut Creator man um see I'm going take the DJ opportunity here yeah yeah n n Jay Jay Philpot is my man you know what I'm saying um we just I just felt like creatively I wanted to stretch a little bit and try some new things but that he's always my friend he's still my friend we speak um and he does like Tom Joiner he does different Cruis he does different parties you know what I'm saying yeah yeah he's still working you know but I've been using Z Trip you know me and zp have been you know DJ Z Trip has been DJing for me for damn uming toilet featuring the toilet push oh man yeah that was crazy that remind me of The Five Heartbeats or some [ __ ] toilet flushing and all that you kicked the crew out or you kept them in there kick them [ __ ] out but n he's good I've been working with Z Trip for about almost 10 years now is yeah yeah that's my man you know what I'm saying so that's been like a Vibe listen I'm going to be honest when you walk through my hood this guy went to Peep and come right back on it like that this is what he do that yeah that's that's how happens but um I'm not going to lie I wish my my nephew was here he's here he's there he's there cut you got to relax I was talking about you in theory that's my nephew that's my look he he a young he a Young Homie in the video I told about you in theory I didn't know you was here but it meant so much to our Hood it meant so much to our neighborhood when you came out because we've been the farmers we understand what Farmers is the red black the red black and green rock yeah how crazy Farmers Boulevard is like from back then like see a lot of people don't like Farmers is almost genified now almost a little bit N N I see you got a whole fools you got a whole listen got a yeah you don't got a whole no n they still got the you know nah hell no got Whole Foods they might have a Whole Foods over there but it ain't n once you got a Whole Foods you grii I don't think it's a Whole Foods over there I feel like you got organic place you got a juice ball once you got a juice ball it's over not if Jamaicans is running it that was that Jo I got all Jamaican I got all my homies Jamaicans in there they likeo juices and fruits and juices that's a dread spot a n Farmers ain't gentrified but you know it's a beautiful Community it may not people may have may not have a lot of a lot of money but they got a lot of dignity and they want to you know they want to make something better for their families and they want to have a life you know what I'm saying and you got a Mel pot of people you got Haitians you got Jamaicans you got Dominicans you got you know people you know from all different you know right just like all in that Community it's a beautiful I think it's a beautiful place you know what I'm saying well well my friend Steph Steph is from Farmers right okay can we we ask him if there's a Whole Foods cuz I'm really not sure no he's crazy he's he's taking meds I can't even talk to him but I love him I went too far Google this St I went too far n you didn't go too far I feel like my was like oh my God why you going there but step is from Farmers Boulevard so I used to go to Farmers Boulevard I used to sit on the Rock the red black and green rock I used to sit on it as a child oh that's crazy as a child but this then then you came out and I was like oh my God I could have got killed yeah yeah that area no it's you know that area has been some it's definitely it's like other any other no no no bro listen listen this what we do when Irish eyes are you know this D this daddy you want you want one shot them on until you know no I'm good I'm good took five shots with us listen I would I would care 50 took 0 he took more than that did he how many shots did he actually take was it n or is it five okay he took can't believe 50 took five shots that [ __ ] is crazy 5507 was at the bar how many shots did he take I thank you I think put two together the way you together big you up 50 cuz big up to 50 that's my man that's my man but don't drink though I don't drink like that N I drink occasionally but N I don't drink like that occasionally drink Champs I'm at a podcast called drink Champs how can I sit here and drink I'm how can I sit here and drink I'm I'm going to salute to that all right let me give you some more champagne you I'm good I'm good sh already we had the peer pressure talk already I'm good the houseo we had KS here we had uh who El KS had a million my ties no KS had a million my I can't lie cannabis had a million KS let's go back to cannabis because I just want to I just want you to I just want you to understand how you destroyed a man's career but it was dope it was I mean but he can't eat I brought him out at the barlay center when I did the concert in Brooklyn yeah but he's already broke no but I brought him out put my arm around him and brought him out there I did he said I did I feel like was too late you crushed him too late too late baby bye but in your mind in your mind you said I got to crush this little [ __ ] but why did you do that because you know why I was defending myself cuz he was he was he was like computer literate at this time when nobody else he was the only [ __ ] writing rhymes on a computer and I had a session with him I said what is he doing he wrote a rhyme on the I didn't like it me personally but you you you acted on yeah you acting on you ain't like it NE I high five for being petty high five for being petty let's make some noise for being petty yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I got some petty pills I'll take a petty pill every now Petty pill you take Petty pill a petty pill every now and then I take a petty pill every day not every day I don't take it every day I try to you know I try to do my you know they go high I go they go low I go high the petty pills yeah the petty pills just in case definitely a little Ed out with that I'm going throw to CL behind my but I wish I wish homie the best though you know I don't want to see anybody have a that's what I'm saying because you know some people they don't understand that when you crush a person career like you actually crushed their life do you are you ever like cuz you know KUB has never had a hit record since you you you slaughtered him why why what funeral he knows he never had a hit record after you dissed him I'm just throwing it up that [ __ ] That's all folks n i you know man listen man that's about his decisions he you got to make your own decisions he got to make decisions decision yo you get you know you get to the crossroads you got to pick right or left L you crush these people career can you say something nice for them no no not nice but say something the reason why because oh why did I do what I did expain very simple yeah pleas I'll make it I'll make it very easy for you my thing is this you know this was my feeling my feeling is you know I have a fan base I have people that you know look to me and enjoy my music and celebrate my art if you come out talking about you know me in a foul way and trying to undermine me you you you're trying to get in my pocket and you're stepping on my toes and you're in the way and I got to get you out of the way immediately and M and that's that was my thinking on it and Mama Said Knock You Out at a minimum at a minimum minimum yo listen listen make your noise for L God damn it I'm sorry continue the sorry I'm so sorry that was it that was it that was it and and and then but cannabis I just felt like you staying on no because you know what what who don't mean I no this my nephew you got to relax you got to relax why you tapping me I want to ask him something go ahead ask him something I heard you had fighter something with Jamie Fox something like that oh yeah I was getting Any Given Sunday I seen that I seen that movie yesterday oh that's right I don't know why this is why God is good all time I'm I'm I'm like I can't sleep because you know why I still up listen them Petty pills pett just keep you up listen record wait a minute I can't I'm Petty I can't sleep listen oh yeah I'm real Petty I can't no but let me tell you let me tell you listen whenever I interview an artist I want to give them the most respect ever because because hip hop should be a celebration we I sat down with Leo Coles the other day and he said the reason why you're winning we're going to do something phenomenal celebration this is going to be you are actually celebrating it it's a war attrition so I'm looking here I'm looking right and then Any Given Sunday is on my TV so I look at it and then mind you I forgot I had did like two or three songs for it so I'm like Oh my vision was po business but then I'm looking and I'm like damn and then when you and um Jamie Fox actually interacted and me hearing the rumors yeah I'm actually looking at it like this is great cinema this is really great Cinema like this is actually n I'll tell you what happened I'll tell you please tell us what happened we don't know what what really happened you know the real story is that I um you know when we were doing the scene you know I think you know Jamie although he was experienc to somewhat he was still a little green I wasn't quite as green but I was green too and um you know you know mean in experience you know what I'm saying so I uh when we were doing a scene I was being aggressive when I was like yo you got but this is character to character I'm like yo you got to you know and I'm like what scene are we talking about we talk about on Sidelines where he didn't give me the ball or well he didn't something like that after the Huddle after the hdle and I'm like yo you got to and I'm slapping his shoulders and this and that you went like that oh yeah okay but he's got equipment on right I mean it's not like you know we're not in the pool and shitest J you know he's got equipment on so you know yo yo yo so he got upset and he's like yo you know stop being so rough with me so I was like I you know that didn't compute so boul came boul tell me when so we did another take okay and I was rough with him again and then you know I don't know why but you know he thought it was a good idea to punch me in my face not in the script no it wasn't in the script nah this wasn't scripted so no no no I'm keep it a hun with you you want me to keep it a 100 I'm going keep it a he punched he punched me in my face so I I looked at him after he punched me on face I said why'd you do that wa tell about you looked at him punched he punched me in the face and I looked at him I said why I describe this scene act it out act out act it out nor so I said I feel like El one like that I something like that but not quite I was a little tighter than that I was a little tight I was let me I was tight you know I was giving him tight I was tight I was giving him so I like looked at him I said why'd you do that he said um look and he like was turned to the side he he had his helmet on he had his helmet on he was turned to the side he said I told you before don't put your hands on me period so yo when he said that my left hand grabbed the face mask and as I was pulling his helmet off my right hand was punching his chin you know like you know what I mean queens and then you know he was laying there and I was like I thought he was faking cuz he sleep I was faking no that's not what then the whole team jumped on me right so they they they wrestled me down you know the whole team you so so so I'm under the Huddle and I'm like yeah yeah and then somebody tries to reach in and like give me a little eye gal somebody did that right so oh yeah that was but not a good idea because I turned my head to the side and went oh caught his caught his head in this like see that's the thing with the whole MMA thing do think yeah you going to give me a leg lock I'm biting your esophagus off like all that leg lock [ __ ] I'm GNA bite your throat off B like we go we got to get it in like this ain't the rules is out so so I turn to the side and he pulled his hand out the thing and then they finally broke it up and then and then but but since then me and Jamie got cool and we have laughed about it I heard we have laughed about it we made songs together like we cool so I don't mind telling the story now but you know what it is is just you know but you know Oliver is crazy Oliver Stone he hadone yeah he was the director that's actually the guy that's actually the sports announcer in in in G Sunday he's actually the guy that's in there and I'm I'm looking he's like he's who wrote Scarface scar wrot scar he you know yeah he's Legend he's amazing so you know it was just a funny time you know what I'm saying but you know that was the thing you know it it's just you know Jamie you know he just got off you know he was he was on his Willie baming and I couldn't take it and all that man like you know you know cuz you know you know in under the right circumstances you might let a punch slide you might right I mean you know it's not possible now everybody's not a straight murderer all the time dude hit you under the right circumstances you be like if he would have said to me like you know yo you know I just and I'd have been like you know I don't even know if I could have took it then I take that back yeah yeah I could have took it I could have take I couldn't handle that [ __ ] I couldn't handle it it would have drove me insane I would have been waking up in the middle of the night just like he played me like I just couldn't take it yeah yeah yeah yeah so cuz you even beat [ __ ] up who broke in your house the [ __ ] that broke in your house pounding them out yeah I don't want to that's that's a rough one though see because the difference with that is that that wasn't funny because I was terrified oh word what happened of course I mean you know listen man if it's 1: in the morning you know and you come down from this is C why I got to tell you your Segways on the questions you're very smooth and and it's very effective it's a very smooth and subtle it's a nice thing you're doing cuz you hook a scene you get it nice you bait it you set it up you tea it up and the next thing you know people are talking that's pretty good that's good that's good that's good you could have been an attorney that's good that's good that's good that was good come here you this genius come here you [Applause] so I'm so sorry very smooth I'm so sorry it was amazing like I was just it was like a it was wonderful to watch you know what I mean he could ask you anything like the only niggaer that caught my was crazy he looking at me too like oh man but um yeah now when the dude broke in my house the difference is that you know I had fights growing up and we've all all of us I'm sure everybody in this room had fights in the hood and different things you scraps or whatever but but how many of us have really forth our lives maybe dudes in jail you might get that feeling you know you did a big you feel like you fighting for your life fighting for your life doesn't it's not the same funny feeling like fight like in the ho just you know let's get it let's get it you know I'm like you know I'm like like I'm really scared this is for Keeps you know I'm going to get it in like whatever it I only read it on TMZ so I have no idea and so it was 1: in the morning and uh you know the the alarm pad went off but it's you know how you have an alarm and like for those who have an alarm it'll give you a minute to put your cod in it'll go and you have to turn your alarm off well mine just went and so I went to the keypad and some old sleep and I'm looking at the keypad I'm like um family room and she said family room wasn't it and so I'm thinking so you mean when it when it walk it's telling you tell where where where the default is the default I think that's the word so you know and you know I'm in my drawers it's one: in the morning so I just said you know what I'm thinking it's like my daughter sneaking in you know mebe I don't know she coming in L I'm like oh let me go down here and see what's happening so I'm just walk downstairs got my draws I turned the alarm off walk downstairs come down and when I was going towards the kitchen he's coming out of the kitchen and then we face to face oh [ __ ] and he's got all black on he's got a big bag he's got the man the lawn mansing bed boots you know he's looking at huh is he black no he's white he's a white dude oh you you pounding him out immediately oh God oh God let's go there oh God I mean you know Rick Ruben wasn't Riu freaky it was freaky I think you know stupid mother stupid mother stupid mother mother stupid mother mother stupid mother that's you a stupid mother stupid stupid mother everything you get every stupid mother you can ever heard on everywhere and I was like you know and then I you know I got him down and then it took the police but wait but you you skipped how you got him down no I don't want to uh yeah but how cuz no we we we fought tried to rock for a minute and you know you H with that cross and when you got your drawers on that's some real like that's some real gorilla like gorilla M yeah I feel like like for the old school dudes I feel like pen get them D you know I have my drawers all this [ __ ] you know no socks it's like nasty I'm swinging I'm rocking it's it's on like it's you walking downstairs you don't you don't know in my house you think all right yo yo you in your drawers in your I don't care you in your drawers in your house going to get some juice drinking out the juice bottle that nobody knows you drink out of and and the same one you give to all your guests like nobody know you be tearing that joint up you know you know you know and I just went down and then Holmes came out of nowhere and it was just like you know it was turn he was like I was like a oh [ __ ] and it just yo we just had to rock like no and then you know and the pro I'll tell you the the deepest thing though you know this is the part that's not fun even is that there was a point when I had to decide whether or not he should stay alive mean between you and him no when I had him subdued because I didn't know if he had anyone else with him subdued when I had him when I had control of the situation when I had him on the ground on his back no on his stomach finished and you know laying there I had to make that decision because I didn't know if he had someone upstairs you know I didn't know if people were coming from so I had to think I didn't have rope available like I'm not planning like you know I ain't you know LL Manson like I don't have ROP rope around the house just in case I have to tie up somebody you know so I'm like looking had to do and I had to make a decision you know you know and I credit I credit Simone cuz she was like just just just wait the cops she's calling the cops she got on the 911 and then I saw my daughter come down the steps and she's like what's going on and she's like with the with the drawers on I'm like this is freaky and my youngest daughter slept through the whole thing she had a playmate she had a playmate a play date and she had you know somebody over at the house they slept through the whole thing and then her parents was the interesting thing her parents called the next like that morning when we woke up they was like oh you know yeah yeah she can stay you know it's no problem like that was my daughter like I'm so you letting your daughter stay I had an intruder I just oh no she's safe she's fine I'm like yo they must be having a really good time whatever they're doing they got some really big Rings it's a really bigz you know so so so cuz people telling me you got to leave and I got to respect you because I really love you but before we get up out of here I need to know about raised out she was raised represent Queen she was raised out was represent Queen I represent Queen she was raised out in Brooklyn what about it I just need you to break that down I represent Queens cuz aie Martinez forever thought it was about her that serious not saying the record was about her I'm saying she represented that record she always she always no no not saying that let me get this I'm did I set it up like that feel like that totally set up Y what happened life it look I didn't mean like that but I meant like because she was oh yeah yeah n n it was just a record like you know that was a um it was what it was you know it was it was funny because you know that was a beat that Rashad had let me hear his lights are blinking don't worry about it Oh I thought it was the RO that's rev lat I just uh that beat you know puffy actually had wanted that beat for Biggie and uh you know he called me I want my beat back saying not so much I love you but not so much and um nah but you know Puff's my man and big understood you know what I'm saying I I it was mine it was what it was it was just like you know you know how producers they play everybody beats and Biggie you know he really you know God bless him he rest in peace as a talented artist um he had his heart set on that one you know but you know that's how it went who's your favorite producer producer yeah can L get in the studio with say [ __ ] there some amazing producers out there man it would be I mean give me one I don't even want to say man all right give me two I don't even want to say but yo it's some crazy producers give me three give me a top three producers some top three yeah oh top three okay um I think uh I think Dre is serious I agree I think um I think Timberland is serious and uh didn't expect that one um you know it's been a while but you know Marley was really really serious you know what I mean and Primo and Primo you know Primo serious really I really wanted you to say Molly M I really did I really like because like yo I yo listen man I yo I love all of these dudes man they all good go my son my son is scared to walk through what's up man yeah give him five give him five what's up five being good and you on Revolt TV God damn it all right move move because this is because this cuz you know your people's telling me you got to go and I got to respect your people yeah yeah yeah so and and you know what I respect you because thanks if it wasn't for you in a lot of ways it wouldn't be me thanks and I I always respect that I respect you too but I have to ask because I feel like you brought this to hip-hop the G greatest of all time yeah that phrase came from J I you know I got it I got it from Ali you know what I'm saying damn we didn't know that from you know Ali you know was saying the greatest all time but I made it to Goat you know what I'm saying all time I think I I probably have one of the greatest careers you know I think that on any given day somebody can make a better song but it's really about a career um and it's about so can I floss for you yeah you are the greatest of all time [ __ ] I feel like you being being too humble I feel like I feel like you're being too humble a lot of times a lot of times you got to remember that you know I don't know you know if I got po when Mama Said Knock You Out came out maybe people would feel different about me you got to relax cuz you won that you know you that no I'm saying I'm saying like if if something had if I was you know got shot or was finished out or got done or if somebody did let's not wish that no I never I don't received that at all God knows I'm saying like oh if rockim would have went away what I'm basically saying is that that there is something magical that happens with great artists when they're not here yes you and they get you know looked at people grow to appreciate them but it's magical happening with you right now while you being doing TV I'm blessed magical so just in case you know lip syn battle we are all sitting back it's for hip hop like everything I do all moves I make know I'm saying no you a had to be here but but I wanted to be here because and came here hip-hop and you and you [ __ ] hip-hop than you thank you but I just want you to know that if you never heard it before even though you br this um phrase to hip-hop you are the greatest of all time thank you I appreciate it and what's what's really you're alive I am I am I'm truly I am there's a lot of people we say greatest all time rest in peace that's true that's true I'd rather I'd much rather be alive and debating it yeah how about that one we say the greatest all turn that one on I'd rather be alive and debate baby you know we saying the greatest of all time again you love look this how you know she was real my Rolex came AP it's time that means it's time yeah it's time but listen Al we really appreciate you Al I know you got to go we know you on a a schedule we understand everything you do this is what we do what our our culture our society excuse me everybody up there be quiet our society is about giving our Legends flowers when they can smell them and giving them trees when they can and hel them and because you know why our culture when you get to 30 years you get to 40 years you get to 45 or 50 years they ride us off but meanwhile mle crew is out there touring meanwhile [ __ ] Rolling Stones and I don't got no beef with them I don't give a [ __ ] about them I'm I'm all right myself understand but I want to continue to support our culture and you know also what would help that I think is you know if the veteran artist make better decisions and if they value themselves because you know I I I am humble that's true but I do know my value no I we know you know your and I understand who I am I'm clear about that yes you do and you know my business decisions and the moves that I make reflect that yes and you know you know I think a lot of our artists you know they forget who they are and they you know they think that it's about your last hot record but it's not it's more than that it's more than just the hot it's not about just your everybody be quiet cuz I ain't going to lie I need to hear this you know it's not it's about your career it's about you know that's one of the things Russell taught me earlier is about having a career you know I could go out and play you know you know and have 50 60 70,000 people out there I can go out there and you know do festivals I can go do different things and I think that you know our veterans sometimes they forget that right they forget who they are they get lost they get discouraged because they they make it about the radio they make it about only 14 year olds they make it about but you can't live without your radio yeah yeah I got a television now um um and you know he beat me in the battle he destroyed me you know so I just you know I I just think we just have to know who we are we got to believe in ourselves you know I would what I would say to you to all the viewers is that you got to remember that dreams don't have deadlines and you got to remember never to limit yourself you know Colonel Sanders started Kentucky for a chicken at 65 years old there are no limits on this thing you can be successful as long as you want to be successful you know Michael Jackson had he he made rest in peace had hot records he had a soul World Tour coming he was 50 years old when he passed don't under don't you know overestimate the gift of Youth and and underestimate theft of experience you know what I'm saying because you know and like I say to all the artists out there like there's a lot of a lot of people found out when they put their records on Soundcloud that it's not as easy to make hot [ __ ] as you thought huh with them four views huh how you like them four five views how's that feel how's that working for you you know remember you remember when you were critiquing my album the one you said was trash you know and now you got seven views cuz it only went gold remember that how do those four views feel right now you know what I mean so you know you know yo y yo can you can you leave the petty gang with me going to lie cuz you know pett G Hood like they threw the it's like if if if r one thing I will say about hip-hop is a funny just a sideb if hip-hop was the NBA it's like they took the ball and threw it to the stance it's like the mic like we just said here they just threw the audience in the crowd and say y'all do it so now everybody's you know because for every chance rapper who is truly talented and amaz yes for every one of them there's a thousand of them that didn't do it so what am I saying basically what I'm saying is there is some skill involved with this and it does take talent and it isn't luck we all need a little bit of luck sprinkled in our lives but the guys who made it yourself some of the other artists you named some of these guys your favorite rappers and artists and they are Talent right and you know so what what the internet has showed us is it's given us the opportunity to find out that guess what rappers really are talented these guys really have talent and they really are artists because if that wasn't true then everybody would be on would be on if they're not yeah there's a few hit one hit wonders here and there but this thing takes Talent right you know so you know I think that that's just something that and those old school guys out there they need to just make better decisions and remember that they're talented and not be not be overwhelmed by this idea that you're Obsolete and Irrelevant this is not you know you when you're 35 years old you don't need to keep going back to your prom you know you don't have to live life like you're going back to the prom I'm 39 exactly I'll be 40 this year young young Rel I'm doing three parties La New York and Miami I love it can I have you a part of one of them I don't know I don't know why I threw that in there I don't know what happened I'm trying to promote I'm trying toot that's what you do I mean how you think we got here you're unbelievable tell I mean really look around at the life you created like like really look at this like this is unbelievable you're amazing I love you let me tell you something L I love you where's Capone he yo listen I'm I'm going to Snuff him soon as he pull up because he told me he was supposed to be here because listen listen listen I don't I don't I don't invite him to podcast but when is in man he hit me told them earlier and then listen you know I lie cuz I I'm come from violator so I lie to them oh yeah yeah yeah yeah you told him 12 I told him 12 I know I had you locked in at 230 but I told him 12 of course you did because I come from Chris lady school I know tell hours but we can't we can't fall asleep in the getaway car though you know people fall asleep in the getaway car it's like Take the bucket of chicken off your lap and get out the car please it's like you know we gota you got to be on time that's another thing I'll be on time need discipline be on time can we teach the youth about being on time because let me tell you something just now recently uh I I've been you know doing what I got to do so Leo hits me and Leo goes I need to meet you at the Polo Lounge right this is in this why he laughing he knows no cuz I know it's loaded his his scheme is already set it's like I need to meet you at the polar up I have a bunch of it's like all of this [ __ ] is like all back here me Ali Randy we set it all up but me and Ali is only there so we pull up at 745 Leo's already there but it's he told us to meet us at 8:00 but this is what I'm trying to tell young people is be on CH he told me to meet him at 8:00 we pulled up at 7:45 and he was already ready there you go he's sitting there like this let's go and I'm like yeah holy [ __ ] cuz he want he want to have the best chair in the meeting and all that I say get ear look you know even this [ __ ] I say yo listen so this is what I'm trying to tell young people just show against the wall at the table is you're not supposed to show up at 8:15 when it's 8:00 meeting you supposed to show up at 7:45 and scope out the joint and also I I would also say this I would say that you know the cockiness is great for the records yes if I make a record bu if I make a record tomorrow it's going to be the cockiest thing you've ever heard in your life right but in between it's it's okay to be humble no humility humility is okay I didn't say pseudo I didn't say pseudo I don't know what pseudo means yeah you know I'm [ __ ] third grade yeah I'm fourth but you know I studied the dictionary um false like fake humility like you fugazy I you know but just be humble you know what I'm saying and um you know people want to help you then you know you ain't got to be you know all that all the time you know leave it on the records leave it on your music leave it on stage but other than that just be you you know what I'm saying and uh I think you get a lot a lot further you know in your career okay before we get you get out here cuz I know you got to go yeah cuz Claude is over there she I know you got to go but you actually have it's it's not just lip sync battle it's not just you know you playing these other you actually have a production describe to these young black kids yeah you could actually help help people out well I well I co-produced um the Grammy nomination show for for uh about 5 years I um I'm a producer on lip sync battle as well did you know how lightly he said that you know what I'm saying I um I think we should make noise for that you know if somebody has you know if somebody has you know TV ideas or ideas that I think are worthy I'm not going to like everything and if I don't and if I don't like it if I don't like it I'm going to tell tell the person like I should we send him to Claudine yeah something like that but you know we got to be easy it's a million people over here you know no let me just tell you something one thing for short to for certain when Violet dispersed yeah it was probably the saddest day of my life it was crazy because I didn't know anything other than Chris I didn't know other thing other than uh Claudine Lori Dublin and so on and so forth Scott I didn't know nothing I feel you so when when when Chris went away it was probably the saddest day of my life I feel you because I just didn't know what I saying too man I didn't know what to do N I felt I feel you I called Buster and Buster was already had another he no he with James at with James at that time for a minute but it was like another management it was wasn't like James was Vi at that time and I was just lost like I'm just now finding myself done a great job me personally and one of the the very first person's per people I'm sorry I said person I'm I'm like dyslexic it's all good it's Claudine and I said Claudine was she has never ever made me question her he has never ever done anything and the fact that claudon is with you it lets me know that you really living out violator brother and I love you my brother I love I love that woman I love that woman I love like Claudine I love Claudine like you don't understand and she asked she said yo I want to meet your wife and I I I made sure my wife came just to meet Claudine because she mean so much to my life like I'm I'm I'm going be honest with you and I went and look for her and when I damn she I can't I can't afford her [ __ ] up I [ __ ] up I should have came should came last year I can't do it it was 7:45 I I was already there I'm like I can't thank you enough because you know what out of everything that's what we owe Chris Lighty we owe Chris liy to keep his legacy first of all first of all I you know owe Chris on so many levels I mean my Mr Smith album him him connecting me with the track masters we did that whole doing it record you talked about Chris was inv with Chris was down with me when we did that song um you know Chris You knowes Queen she was raised out first time together and still don't know this B I got to I got to meet her oh yeah got to meet her maybe you know her you yeah well you know you got to relax but um yeah Chris was he was a special guy and you know he's definitely be sely and um I try to pay it forward by you know looking out for Tiffany you know when she's in La she stays with me um you know making sure that she's good can l l Nori and Buster create a new violator and and cuz you know you know Al let me just tell you something Al and I'm sorry this going to get very touchy not for you not for anybody here but the other day DMX performed right where in the barlay center okay the whole hip-hop say ah DMX don't look good DMX you know he looks like he's smoking he look whatever whatever but isn't it Hip Hop's responsibility to say that this man gave us 10 million records this man gave us such and such why don't we just come take him and put him in the rehab or put him to whatever he needs to do to be safe but you know what hip hop don't have a union to do that Al is great nor is great efn is great Rich Blanco is great Randy AKA is great shouldn't we give 1% of something so that if anything like this happens like Chris Lighty passing Tiffany don't have to worry like uh DMX you know have to go on the rehab we can take care of that I feel like hipop 's hip hop that am I bugging l no you're not bugging you know but um that's that's a very complicated thing you know I mean you know what you're talking about I mean you know Sons can't I know I understand Sons can't get their mothers off drugs man you know that's a tough one no no no I understand what you're saying but in terms of you know unionizing hip-hop and and you know it's something to think about um strong management can you know can create that kind of a Vibe right it's not n it's not nothing look the laborers look the people the guys on the ground floor the guys who had three four songs the guys who you know it would be great if they had medical songs come on we took about veterans four song but three or four song look Rob Bass and DJ easy rock don't deserve to be three four songs I had albums but I'm about H the first when I say songs I just mean hits I don't mean Ian I'm okay I'm my bad I I think yeah I don't think it's nothing wrong I think that's a good idea but you think but it takes a it takes a lot of time and a lot of commitment There's real there's you know you have to be real about things like that but if you gave 10 years of hip-hop right right you dedicated to hip-hop now you you develop you develop some type of disease it only take 40,000 to get to take to get rid of your disease and there's people like us who have it I give a ban you give a ban JayZ give B whatever sitting that person's you know I would always be willing to contribute to something like that as long as I know dudes ain't you know no no no we it's it's transparent taking it and buying it's transparent get low profile tires with my with my b b account like got them new pellis godamn I bank account like that look I like that yeah exactly yeah it's transparent we got to be because it's transparent yes because you know why because the thing is I don't want to give an extra 5,000 that I don't want to I would totally I I would have no problem with I I you know look you're not going to be successful if you don't give right period anyway that's just part of it you know that comes with territory so if you think you're going to be able to be a selfish prick and be successful it's not going to happen you're going to be because the people that are successful are successful because of the things they do right and they the parts of their life where they fail they're unsuccessful because of the things they do incorrectly and so you know CU a lot of times people think a me a evil guy is successful because he's evil no he's successful because he's doing something right he also will reap the the rewards of being evil in another area so don't confuse it people are successful because of what they do right period damn I ain't got no more and they lose because of what they do wrong you know what I mean just like sports you win because of what you did right all right but there'll be repercussions for the other [ __ ] but there's repercussions for other things flagrance you know whatever overturn you know turn H over like so you know there consequences oh you mad smart I just got to make a noise for you being mad smart but let me get out of here do one picture and one one drop peace and love y'all you need you need any champagne to go no I'm good I got you whatever you I'm thank youo than