joining me now is house Speaker amerid Nancy Pelosi speaker Pelosi we're going to talk about Joe Biden you know him so well he's a nominee of the democratic party and there's a lot to talk about but I do want to start with something I don't think has received enough attention which is Donald Trump and his performance in that debate because there were some alarming things he said during that debate as you were watching what stuck out to you as the moment where you wish people it would be blasted everywhere and people would watch it and and understand the threat he poses well uh how are you good to see you uh competition for that moment there zp competition for that moment because it was a constant Manifesto again of Lies as you may recall I tore up his speech at the State of the Union because it was a total Manifesto of lies and that's what we saw the other night which must be rejected as well as his candidacy of course one that stood out was about January 6th this man would not send the national guard the Republicans know that cuz some of them were in there when we were asking for it begging for it to the Secretary of the army the Secretary of Defense uh and the president of course is the ultimate commanderin-chief and he would not send it so for him to go on TV and lie about that the instigator of an Insurrection against the Congress of the United States against the Constitution of the United States against the capital of the United States and just pass it off so that was tough but in terms of what it means at the kitchen table for America's Working Families for him to talk about roie Wade the way he did either he doesn't know what he's talking about or he's totally lying or both so it's a it's a terrible combination so when people look at that okay a perform it was not a good night let's face that in terms of performance for Joe Biden he's so much better than that but what it means to people in their lives he answered questions about policy how can you have a legitimate debate when somebody is totally lying and you have to completely dispel uh their falsehoods but in any case three things I would say a woman's right to choose he lied about that this is very important to women it's a freedom issue it's a an economic issue it's a kitchen table issue it's a personal issue in terms of jobs Joe Biden six 15 million new jobs the other guy the worst job performance since Herbert Hoover and he's saying oh he did this and he did that in terms of Co he was terrible his denial and his and his um um delay on Co killed people his what he did on January 6 people died or were hurt this is a dangerous person and evil and then I would say on the economy which is so important I talked about the jobs 16 Nobel laurates 16 economic Nobel laurates said his his the other guy's fiscal policies will have uh inflation go up so again it is I mean if you talk about climate and he sat with he sat with the fossil fuel industry and said give me a billion dollars for my campaign so I can reverse what they've done to set Save the Planet so everything that matters to people whether it's gun violence protection you name it uh the person has been on the negative end of it all and everybody's talking about what Joe Biden did thank you for asking about him because it was terrible and our members the one thing I would say about them the day after Tuesday yes Friday morning when we went in for votes is they were it was stunning to see the Republicans Embrace this pack of Lies once again they know that that isn't true what he was saying or else they're just in a state of disillusionment but in fact people have to make the vote for themselves and what they saw between the two of them did not change many Minds as Molly was saying earlier because people are smarter than that but on the other hand why do we talk all about Joe Biden this guy's old he doesn't have a stream of thought that is logical and nobody says anything about about that that he could be so disassociated from the facts you saw on one side of the screen Integrity concern for people on the other side you saw dishonesty and self-serving lies no question and we have definitely been talking about it and I think the reason it's important to talk about President Biden is for people to understand what the options are here right and and the different choices people are throwing out there I'm sure you've gotten a million calls from people you've probably been talking to donors and me and everybody out there in the Democratic party there was a report I wanted to ask you about because I Anonymous sources I'm always a little skeptical of there's a couple of ninous s sources saying in an NBC story that you told members you were concerned about Joe Biden's viability not his talent as a president and and the all of his accomplishments but his viability as a candidate and you're not an anonymous source you're you're the person so I want to ask you if that's true we have informed and see that that was not true it couldn't be further from the truth if anything I'm being criticized for being so clear about Joe Biden and his decision about running for office so that completely was not true I don't know where they got that but I've not I've had a problem with NBC News and there by uh some of their things they put forth that's why you don't see me on Meet the Press or any of those shows but the fact is no I never said that and I don't know that the other people they claim said that said that we always we all we have to win the election we always subject how we go forward in terms of our mobilization at the Grassroots level and let me tell you I've been in California North and South people are there for Joe Biden and KLA Harris they are there for them they know that this is a challenging no it's difficult it always is elections are tough they're not easy things they're tough and you have to own the ground to get out your vote you have to have a message of what difference it makes in people's lives the kitchen table issues of of personal freedom and job opportunity and education and climate and the rest guns violence protection and the rest and what it means to people and you have to have the money to get it done and Joe Biden has uh he we raised $14 million after that poor performance in the um in the in in in the debate but let me just say this one of the things that did happen is people have said to me we're going to give so much more money now to you for the Dem house Democrats because watching I hate to use his name what's his name Li so much on TV we know we must win the house as at the same time we elect the president and we elect a a democratic a Democratic Senate so let's be calm let's be prayerful it's a Sunday morning let's be clear in terms of evaluating what the possibilities are and the rest but let us recognize that Joe Biden has been a great president of the United States and what he is putting forth for the future it's not about the past nobody votes for you because you deserve it they want to know what you're going to do next and what would what he has next to do is to continue his agenda for the people putting people over politics ICS and that means more more for women in the workplace Family and Medical Leave child tax credit affordable child tax affordable child care so that many more women can participate in all of the all of the uh bills that he passed whether it's for our to protect our veterans imagine that this guy was trying to Clay claim to doing more for veterans we did hundreds of billions of dollars to help veterans who were victims of burn pits and then denying that he said what he said about the veterans just think of what he said about John McCain a national hero a prisoner of war a just such a super Patriot and this guy was degra downgrading him because he was captured this this is there's something wrong there and there's something doubly Wrong by the Republicans who WRA their arms around that so I I have one more question for you we've been talking on this show just about all the different paths just to help people understand Congressman Jim kurn said quote recently I'm a Biden Harris person so I'm not getting away from that I'm for Biden Harris I'm going to be for Biden if Harris ain't there and I'm going to be for Harris if Biden ain't there I just want to be very clear here there's no indication Joe Biden is not going to be the nominee but are you in the same place as kurn your colleague well I'm in my own place and that place is I support the body Harris ticket I think they've a very successful presidency and vice presidency and have more to get done and hopefully if we can get rid of the filibuster and uh pass bills with 51 votes instead of 60 we can accomplish much more as we go forward does that mean though that you'd support Harris if if Biden wouldn't didn't if Biden wasn't on the ticket supp you know what Biden is going to be yeah I I I'm saying to you that I support the Biden Harris ticket I'm not abandoning Joe Biden right now for any speculation Biden Harris both of them I'm enthusiastically supporting them as are many of our Grassroots uh people so while the intelligencia may have some analysis of what people are thinking what we're hearing that people are thinking is they support the ticket and I support the ticket voters are most important let me ask you about the supre back to yeah okay I want to just ask you about the Supreme Court because there is a very important ruling that's coming down tomorrow morning regarding presidential immunity they've waited for six months they've delayed delayed delayed making it so that the American public will not see a hearing will not see a verdict on its very important case what are you what is your reaction to all of this what are you watching for what should people understand about the delay and what we're looking ahead to tomorrow well thank you for that question uh if the court tomorrow says that uh the former president is above the law they will have done a grave disservice to Justice in our country let us hope that they have some some would show us some Allegiance uh to their oath of office to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and that just because you're president doesn't mean you're immune from prosecution if you break the law so that will be a big test for the court tomorrow to see if they honor their oath of office they've given us a lot to doubt them Lately by way by the delay by the Yeah but by by delaying as they have they have undermined Justice in our country in my view no no question could not agree with and by way let's just go back to January 6 let's go back to January 6 because this is a one of the charges against the president the president goes on TV and says I planned my own assassination no I didn't he did they're going to hang the the um they're going to hang the vice president of the United States and they're going to put a bullet in my fword head uh and and he will not send the National Guard people were in injured over 100 law enforcement people were injured some people died because of him and people died again because of his delay and denial about Co this is a totally irresponsible person and again this Supreme Court Supreme Court would say that a person is above the law and they've waited months to come to a conclusion about it it's going to be a very important day for America e