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Exploring the Second China Shock
Feb 22, 2025
Webinar on the Second China Shock and Global Trade
Introduction
Topic: The Second China Shock
Presenter: Paul Kouman
Key Questions:
What is the second China shock?
How will the new global trade world order emerge?
Is globalization compatible with industrial policy?
Can the US run a permanent current account deficit?
Background
First China Shock (2000s):
China's export of manufacturing goods impacted US industrial base.
China accounts for 29% of world manufacturing but only 13% of consumption.
Second China Shock:
Could be due to China's recession leading to increased exports.
Import substitution in China reducing imports.
Technological advancements like AI in China challenging the US.
Free Trade and Industrial Policy
Benefits of Free Trade:
Static comparative advantage and dynamic technological transfer.
Political economy benefits through reforms.
Industrial Policy vs. Globalization:
Increasing returns to scale and setting industry standards.
Potential geopolitical bargaining power.
US strategies: Industrial policy (Biden) vs. tariffs (Trump).
US Current Account Deficit
Argument for permanent deficit due to 'exorbitant privilege'.
US provides safe assets to foreigners for self-insurance.
Paul Kouman's Presentation
Shifted focus to new views on trade imbalances.
New Views on Trade Imbalances:
Persistent trade imbalances due to government actions.
Associated with Michael Pettis' views.
Trade Balance History:
Historically, large capital flows were normal pre-WWI.
Current account deficits/surpluses have varied over time.
US Trade Deficits and Productivity
US attracted capital due to rapid productivity growth in the 1990s.
Trade deficits increased as US became attractive for investment.
De-industrialization
Manufacturing is important for strategic reasons and perceived as providing good jobs.
Comparison with Germany:
Germany's manufacturing sector is larger due to trade surpluses.
Germany's economic challenges despite manufacturing strength.
Tariffs and Trade Policy
Tariffs as a response to trade imbalances debated.
Historical use of tariffs, like Nixon's policy.
Potential retaliation and impact on dollar strength.
Increasing Returns to Scale and Industrial Policy
Increasing returns expand trade gains but raise questions of who benefits.
Importance of strategic industrial policy.
Globalization and Services
Potential shift in trade focus from goods to services.
AI as a substitute for globalization in service outsourcing.
Conclusion
Re-evaluation of free trade and industrial policies in light of global changes.
Impact on smaller countries and potential formation of trading blocs.
Ongoing discussion on the balance between tariffs and subsidies.
Final Thoughts
Global trade and economics continue to evolve, presenting new challenges and opportunities.
Importance of strategic thinking and policy adaptation in a dynamic global environment.
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