[Music] Suge, happy to have you back, my man. Man, I ain't went nowhere. I'm closer than you think. Yeah, man. I had to run it back. I mean, the people rocking with you, so you know, it was only right, man. So, I got to ask you, cuz over the years, man, there's been a lot of confusion. When Tupac got shot in Vegas, was Snoop at the hospital? So Snoop didn't go nowhere near the hospital. So when it happened, as you know, for some strange reason, but now we know the real reason. Snoop did not attend the fight with us or the club uh the after party at Club 662. And it was so crazy about that, we thought it was strange that he wasn't there. This the first one he didn't uh attend. And according to Warren G and everybody else, now we know why he didn't. But to get straight to the point was this. I was at my house in Vegas and I started calling Snoop telling, "Hey, what's up?" You know, like it's something wrong with this situation. Pocket in the hospital. Come holler at him. Come check on him. So he drove down and I was at the house waiting on him. And Tupac's mother was at my house. So we back by the pool and in the pool area is like two big guest houses. So as when Snoop come up and there's other people out there, we walk in the back to talk. As we start talking, I said, you know, I'm on him like, "Man, why you ain't here? You should have been at the hospital." And so and then Tupac mother was there to faint. She was like, "Yeah, uh, I know he you should want to see him." He told her, he was like, "Well, look, Tupac hating me right now. He mad at me. He hates me. So I feel bad and that's why I didn't go up there. And Tupac mother said, "Well, look, Pac was mad at me too for for a few things. I rather not for some stealing shit." She said, "Right, but you know, we all do that with our mothers." So she said, "Well, he was mad at me too, but that's my son up there. And if he hates you, you still want to go do the right thing and go visit him, right?" So as we start talking, Snoop D start crying and fell start throwing up like literally throwing up, right? So we looking at him like, damn, what happened to this dude? So once he get up and explain to him and you know, we didn't think weird, nothing weird. We just thought he really emotional right now. He throwing up, you know. So when he got himself together, we were still talking to him. Pac's mother says it's going to be all right. He said, "Look, Boo Boo is pregnant. That's Shante, Snoop's wife, by the way. That's the home girl. She good people." So, um, he told both of us that Boo Boo's pregnant. If it's going to be a boy, he going to name him Tupac after Tupac. She had a boy and they named him Cordell. That's Snoop's last son with her. So, I don't know where you get all the interest from, but they had a conversation at the hospital and all that. That's absolutely not true. Say less if you know what I mean. But instead of just saying less, since I've been in here, Snoop and other people been having people trying to bail the guy out, Kefi D, cuz he talking too much, raising them trying to do stuff for Puffy cuz they say he talking too much. They even had somebody talk to me and say, "Hey, you can help him get free." I said, "Look, I don't have nothing to do with none of that, and I'm not leaving prison to go to nobody county jail." To the point they were saying, "Well, you can't leave and sacrifice a little bit in the county jail to stop that black man from getting life." Hell the [ __ ] no. I ain't wishing bad on him at all, cuz I don't want to see nobody go to prison. And like I told you last time since I find out more details about certain things, I probably would go to the Vegas County Jail if um if me and Keithy D was sell. We have a good conversation after I give him, you know, six up six upside his head, another six in his body, and another two. But yeah, that's that's definitely didn't happen with uh Swift didn't go to the hospital. That's a lie. I want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly. You said that Snoop he trying to build Kefi D out of prison. Well, this the thing. First of all, you got to understand him, Puppy, Ray J, all those dudes, they got puppy ties. And apparently, Keep D Keep telling it all. You know what I mean? And the more you talked, the more they'll get hurt about the situation. And you know, it's a it's always a sad situation when we allow everybody to get into these these events of wars or whatever you want to call it because we all lose. Sometime people lose their freedom, sometime people lose their life, but it's bad for business and it's it's terrible for the culture. You know, me personally, I take full responsibility of any actions I did, regard it was great things or bad things. And we got to learn that we should all be able to be friends and get along and be able to be allies and respect each other. But we don't let a person come from a whole another coast and start a a world a war in the city that's not going to end up well. And what I mean by that, my opinion, it happened twice. When you listen to James interview and he's saying how, you know, James live in the southside neighborhood. He's saying how Puffy was coming over there throwing money around to have Tupac killed and have me killed. He played his part in the situation cuz he never said nothing to nobody. So his involvement. So, and you don't got to take my words, take his own words. So that played a role in changing the culture of hip hop. And I also feel that Puffy also, he didn't do it on purpose, but some of the things he did took another great rapper from the West Coast Brothers, which is Nip. I mean, Nip was just doing fine. He was doing stuff for his community. He was doing stuff with his homies. He was doing great things as an artist. And what I loved about Nip that Nip YG, man, those dudes was real brothers. Even though they represent two different colors, they was real brothers. And that made a that was a real proud moment to witness that. And reason why I blame Puffy for that because once Puffy start messing with Nip one, like I say, it's my opinion going by what everybody else say, Puffy the one got these dudes on hardcore drugs. You know, everybody smoke a little weed, have a little drink, but he was introducing these guys to different type of level of drugs. He was going around doing videos and saying, you know, he the big homie of LA. He run those dudes. Like I said, I wasn't there personally, so I just can't say it. This just my opinion. So when you start doing those things, that creates a lot of jealousy. That creates in-house stuff. Not saying they has something to do with NIP, so I ain't on that page. I'm just saying whatever the case may be. So, we got to fix that. So, Suge, I gotta ask you, and shout out to Snoop. I don't got no issue with Snoop, but every time I ask you about Snoop, you always bring up Vegas. And from what I get from it is you feel like Snoop knew what was going to happen to Tupac in Vegas. Can you speak on that if you don't mind? Like, go more into detail. I'mma tell it to you like this. I'm never going to say him him. But the writing's on the wall. What I mean by that, I know they got into it in New York. I know Pac ain't turning none down. Pac go. When it's time to go, he going to go. And I know that us three, the three of us was close before I after I called my mother. I'mma hit pot. I'mma hit Snoop. Make sure they straight. So all three of us communicated with each other always. He had a fight. He had a fight for the He had a ticket for the fight, a Tyson fight where we always go to a ring size ticket. He also, they all knew that that was an East Coast night and everybody was excited about it. I had one DMC performing that night. When you look at it, Dad said that, "Hey, we weren't going. Snoop was on, you know, [ __ ] death row basically. [ __ ] Tupac and everything above and something going to happen. This call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. Warren G says that Snoop was at his house watching the fight and he had the walkie-talkie. The radio. Now these walkie-talkies, the radios I had, it's not a nicktail. This before all that. I had these radios that work on the whole West Coast. San Diego, Vegas, Oregon, you know the West Coast, Denver, right? So only time a person got one of those radios is it's like if they was going to a club or they was going to court or they was going to event that they can communicate with their security. Whoever doing on security details the security didn't keep them 24/7. So the radios were handed to if two guys was going to be on Snoop I would hand them two radios and Snoop will have one. After that's finished, they would turn him back in. So, it wasn't no need for Snoop to have a radio. That was surprising. So, when Warren says he heard the shots, he heard everything was going on. And when everybody said they heard them say got him, that's not just a red flag. That's a fact that somebody involved with something they shouldn't been in and they had a radio they shouldn't have had. So that was the first thing. Then Corrupt, they interviewed Corrupt and Corrupt says Snoop had the meeting said we not going to to Vegas. So they weren't going to lose Bill. So that's basically saying like something going to happen. And then Nate Dog says, "I'm going to uh Vegas. I don't got to be around those niggas." That's his exact words. I can be here. I can be there. Long as I don't be around them. basically saying if long as I'm not standing next to Tupac or me, he don't have to worry about a straight bullet getting him. No other way. And the fact that not only did he not come to the hospital, not one of those people, those people, them people, whatever you want to call them, did not do a song with Tupac. We put out two albums after Tupac was gone. Snoop not on one. Snoop did his album. You probably guys don't remember. He that he did that album on his own. Whe was the dog father. It's not a Pac verse on that one. And he have lots of them to pick from. Not a one. When Tupac got a star on Hollywood Walk of Fame, not one of those individuals, them people did not come. So you can go up there and accept award for Pac, act like y'all was close, but y'all was enemies at that time. And I do say this with all respect to the whole West Coast. I tried everything to keep the love for Snoop. If it's something personal, we'll deal with that on something personal. But when he went out of his way and showed the facts what he did, his involvement, that bothers me. And was even worse than that. Ray J even said Snoop told him that. So, it's like bragging points. But, you know, it is what it is. You know, certain things that's that happen can't be changed. But [ __ ] if you look, you're not going to smell the smoke. You going to see that fire burning. That's that. You and Michelle, what made you start messing around with her knowing that she had a baby with Dr. Well, a couple of things. This it's like this. I come from both of my parents. Both of my parents raised me. My mother show me all the love in the world. My father taught me all the toughness in the world. But growing up, I used to do some things I should have been doing. That's like I heard when James was getting molested. But I was always in grown people business. But what happened is this. My father used to always say the boy ain't [ __ ] He used to tell my mother, you know that boy ain't [ __ ] because every time I break something or do something, he would say that, right? In those days, I believe that. So in those times, I really was [ __ ] you know? So it was like that was my home girl and we was good friends, great friends, but at the same time this call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. I always end up I say this a lot. I never got cheated on because I always had somebody else [ __ ] somebody else wife, somebody else baby mama. So if you see me with somebody, they wasn't mine. I was born for the time. So yeah, it got to the point where we was close friends and she was giving me information about when Andre and Jimmy would be talking and they'd be trying to figure out how to, you know, beat me out some bread or get him to do something else and how he was telling me he wanted to be white. So when she started telling me that, I felt loyalty to her cuz that's when I went to Jimmy and Andre and we had a meeting. Ain't no fairy tale [ __ ] like straight out of Compton was even though I didn't see it. Ain't no way nobody wear number two lip gloss or lipstick going to tell me what they going to do. So when we had this meeting, Jimmy, Andre, and myself and I was on I was on him because he wasn't doing these things. He did like two or three songs on the chronic. Even though Dash want to not tell the truth, but the paperwork tells the truth. Dash did all the production on doggy style. He didn't do no songs personally on California Love. Jay Flex wrote his verse and his other guy that the paperwork shows that I paid to do the beat and Brun Roger in. So when it came to that conversation, I called Jimmy out on it. I said, "Man, you I'm having these meetings and you trying to plot, so I'mma kick him off death row." Now, if Death Row was worth close to 700 million or I don't give a [ __ ] if it was worth 50 million and you leave only with 2 million, is he the tough guy or I'm the tough guy? cuz I shouldn't be in here for the case I'm in here on and you should ask me about that. But I should be I should got 20 years cuz that's cold flat out robbery to give that man $2 million to walk away from death row. And even still today they can say it's much better. I can't see it because you don't have no respect about yourself. Everybody know how many times you be in your stomach. But besides that, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing, people can be who they are. But besides that, never happened. So I did show Mrs. Lady love. I did uh Senator Betty Ford to get her from being an alcoholic or whatever. And I did look out for her and put her on songs. And she did come visit me when I was in prison, but I never married her. I never really been married. Everybody say all these things, but one day I will. But um and we have one of the best things in the world ever could happen in that relationship. I had Bailey, my daughter, which is all my kids is blessings to me, but you know, she's a real blessing. and I love her. Like I said, I love all my kids. Oh, by the way, hey Ray J, my 15year-old legend is taller than you and your whole crew. 15 years old, [Laughter] man. Everybody. But do you think that was one of the reasons why Dr. Dre left Death Row? him finding out that she was sleeping with his baby mom. I mean, no, I wouldn't say that because [ __ ] I gave me his wife. I could put my hand on the Bible. I when when everybody was going around and easy was coming out with the songs and everybody saying that, you know, back in those days, you couldn't be a gay rapper. So when everybody saying he was gay and all this type of stuff from everybody, I went and had emergency meeting with me and Andre at the place called the Black Will in the Marina. Now we talking and I told him straight up, I'm like, "Hey, everybody going around here, man, saying you mess with men." So I thought he was going to say, you know, "Fuck that. Whoever said that, he want to get down with him or something." He said the ultimate answer to me. Why they in my business? Why they worried about what I'm doing or who I'm sleeping with? So that made me know that hey, he do get out and Bruce know he get out. He got he met at Chipping and Dells and started living with him, right? Or David Ruffin Jr., right? So it wasn't about putting him on Front Street. Death Row, we a family. I'm like, look man, we got to do something about this. We got to do how they do the actors in Hollywood. you know, Rock Hudson or any of those big- time actors was gay, the first thing they do is get them married. For people who won't believe the the truth or rumors or whatever it may be, I said, "Man, you got to get married ASAP. Who you feel the best or you care about the best that you're married right now cuz we got to do this like Vegas marriage." He said, "Mallay." So, he called Mich. He asked her to marry me right away. She declined and my pages start blowing up saying that I you know she was paging me. I'm the one to to just the plugin with my alleged buffer. Nicole, she already had a baby by three. She's mess with a you know got around like two say I get around. So that was put together on my own doing. So it had nothing to do that's where the marriage came in place. And once they was married, he whooped on her and she caught him with a in a bed with a guy. I made sure he had a prenup. Once that came about, I told him to let her know he had tear a prenup up. Long as she don't tell on him. She didn't tell on him. Move forward, get a divorce. She won't have of the 200 200 million he had. She got whatund whatever it was and he couldn't fight the prenup because she would have called me in as a witness and she would have spoke about the fact that she caught him with a man and and he would pass. So that's why he didn't fight the prenup. But that had nothing to do with the fact that he didn't get mad about me slipping with Mich cuz I'm probably think that at that time like I said it's nothing to be proud of. 90% of the women that look good I had some time with them. You know you do those things when you're young. So when you get somebody when you get older or old like me, you can appreciate somebody. You know the death row party where y'all made a guy that was affiliated with bad boy drink urine. Can you give me the backstory behind that? I always had a big Christmas party for you know for death row and it's hard to get like certain places cuz they they don't you know they don't agree with the lifestyle we live. We about their life. So I rent this whole compound of property to have a Christmas party there and you know we bring our parents and all that type of stuff. So I always want to have a a nice one of the best groups around the oldie group. You know I didn't have the Isaac brothers do uh Mother's Day but for the Christmas party I had the whispers and what's better than the whispers as the beat goes on for all our parents and the older people and us. So we at this Christmas party and you know I mean Jolie see there pretty much everybody. So we you know everybody doing shots before we get to the party. Now we at the party now Joel's my home girl but Juel Joelle part of the captain get downs and it's nothing slicker than the captain get downs. You know what I mean? They going to play every side upside down side whatever they want to do. This call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. So me and Pock is talking and Joelle comes over and introduces to this dude to say that's her boyfriend. So she walks away and she come back. Well, you know they walking away but she come back without the guy. And she said, "What's up, Pac?" She talking to me and Pac and Pac said, "Damn, Jules, who you with? Is he from the west coast? Jokingly not thinking he's not from the west coast. Joelle started laughing and say [ __ ] that [ __ ] work for bad boy. That's one of Puffy's people. So Pacqua like Jewel everybody say you're lo you know you're unloy you're not loyal. You don't have no loyalty. Other words you're curvy ass [ __ ] And we start laughing. So the guy looks back and he see we laughing. So I guess his [ __ ] instincts was right. He takes off running. We take off running behind him. So when they all the homies see me running, everybody runs behind him including Andre, cluding Snoop cuz everybody want to know what's up. So this dude runs up the stairs. first mistake cuz once he got up the stairs and got in that room, it was some type of guest house. There's no way out. So when we all get up there, he getting his ass whooped. He getting the [ __ ] beat out of him. Every person who came up those stairs except for me, of course, beat the [ __ ] out of him. So as he getting beat, one of the homies, and I can say his name cuz Colton ain't here. That's one of one of my closest friends from the west side. Nine type business type of dude. He grabbed me and was throwing him out the window. Only thing was holding him up is [ __ ] His belt and a leg or so. I'm like, "Nah, don't throw him out the window." [ __ ] Everybody said that [ __ ] going to die. He pull him back in. Every person in there got some licks in, even the [ __ ] So now everybody talking to him, you know, the dude begging for his, you know, for his safety. As they talking to him, he's, that stupid [ __ ] was like, "Yeah, I do work for Puffy. I do work for Bad Boy." And and you know, Pac got to smacking him. And again, smack, smack, smack. You know, they're against me. They're my enemies. Everybody start smacking them cuz they want to prove, you know, they loyalty. So, you know, a lot of us still got champagne glasses in our hand, champagne ball in our hand. You know, we having a great time. So, I said, "Oh, man. Let him go. That ain't his fault. He work for the [ __ ] right?" They were like, "Man, what are you talking about? You being nice to him? You didn't had [ __ ] even some of the people in this room drink piss before." So they start pissing in the [ __ ] champagne uh uh cups. This dude probably drunk maybe I say maybe I don't know I wouldn't count but it had to been over 30. It was so bad as he talking I had to back up cuz he smelled like piss. So pocknim got mad at Snoop cuz Snoop the only one besides myself. Well I said everybody my bad. Snoop the only one didn't participate of beating a dude's ass. But you know Snoop a good dude. They always had a good heart. He's like, "No man, you know how he talk with that little Michael Jackson voice." He was like, "Nah, man. You know that because he work for Bad Boy, we don't have to be doing all this and this the West Coast, but we don't got nothing against, you know, we that's a conversation basically." So from there, I did something probably went the smartest thing to do. I said, "Well, he probably ain't going to tell the police if somebody have sex with him. As you know, usually when something crazy happened, nobody don't want to give on the police report to them. Oh, they had sex with me. Oh, they did this with me. You know, some think. So, Andre, and it's real talk. I don't care who believe it, don't believe it. Have no reason to lie. Andre was like, "Shit, I [ __ ] them, but believe me, it's not the first time that rodeo happened because we all seen certain things they did, if you know what I mean." So, believe it or not, Andre, Dr. Dre, beat it up a little bit. To my surprises, he sued Pot. He sued Andre. He sued everybody. He didn't sue me because I didn't lay a hand on that dude, right? I paid everybody's fee. I told Andre, I'mma throw pay that pay your part. Told Pock I'm pay you off. I told everybody who he sued, I'll pay. I said, but that's your [ __ ] [ __ ] Y'all got to run my money back. By the way, Pac, my little brother. He ain't here. Oh, Andre Young. I want my bread when I'm home. I have it ready. But look, that's a true story. And you can put a lawsuit and it shows it for itself. So that's just that, you know, but you know, Joel, I got all the love in the world for her, but Joel was a she was a she was a grimy gal. She was a cold [ __ ] in a good way. But what I'm basically saying, and a lot of people talk about all this stuff, how everything gets miscrewed or confused. Nobody taught us the playbook. I came up with the name death row. I started death row. everything with legal money. And David Kenner was not my attorney. He was a criminal attorney. John Brinker is the one did the stuff for me on the uh and Gary for the um entertainment side of it. But that's been said that's like Danny Boy said a statement before. Danny Boy said, "Well, I wrote all these soul songs and I blame Su cuz I get all this money." Well, I understand Danny Boy didn't understand the business. First of all, when I met Danny Boy, I took a locker to him and treated him like a son from day one. He was signed to a friend of mine named Shorty who had him under contract. So, I had to buy him out that contract cuz Shorty had spent a lot of money on Danny Boy, so he say, but he was under paperwork. So, right off the top, before I did anything with Danny Boy, I had to buy him off that contract. Danny Boy didn't write none of the songs he performed on any of the projects with Death Row. I had him do a remake. He didn't write that one. I had Babyface do the music and write the lyrics. He didn't write that one. And I ain't mad at you or anything. He s song with Pac. Tupac wrote that. So if Tupac write something and sing it in his own voice and then I said, "Man, look out for Danny Boy." Put Danny Boy on there or something. Tupac bringing Danny Boy in like when he br Casey and Jojo in when he br No, when he br singing what he wrote. So you can't get publishing if you didn't write it. So it's no way I supposed to pay you publishing royalties on a song you didn't write. And what people don't understand if a dollar is being owed on a song regarding publishing. It's nothing out my pocket. If a dollar go to Tupac that still don't come out my pocket. If a dollar goes to Danny Boy that still don't come out my pocket. Or Tupac get 50% of it. If Daddy Boy get 50% of it, I still got to pay the same dollar. But I can't give somebody publishing on a song that they did not write. That's why me and Vanilla Ice had to hang out cuz he was trying to claim a song that he did not write. By the way, the Vanilla Ice that helped start Death Row. Not from no [ __ ] informant saying drug money did. And I ain't trying to bounce all over the place, but that's sort of crazy. They still ain't, you know, that's that's a whole another conversation. But anyway, that's how that happened. I've been hearing this rumor for a while now, and I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard that you slept Jermaine Depri. Is there any truth to that or no? Some of it is. So, the situation was like this. Did that though? So, the situation is like this. Lil Bwa was my artist. So I let Lil B I met Lil B one of the homies rest in peace met Lil Bwow's mother. He liked her. She had a son to rap. He said, "Man, let me bring him backstage and all this." So he br he had Lil Bwow off the top. I seen Lil Bwa. That little dude's a star, you know. So I end up moving Lil Bow, his mother, Lil Bwa at the time I thought was his father but it turned out to be his stepfather to Brentwood. Yeah. Where OJ lived at. So you know it's a nice neighborhood. So moved him to Brentwood had him home study to raise J stuff. Had him um you know took care of everything. I even had Lil Bwa on the CO hall at the end. He wrapped and he diss. He talked about easy e. Anyway, nevertheless, when I went to prison, this call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. Judith, I mean Snoop took Lil Bwow to Jermaine Depri. Jermaine Nei signed him, but you can't sign him because he in a contract and I got money I paid already. But a lot of people don't know this. By the way, when everybody say they got a deal with me and they got my life right, they did something with me, which they don't. But if you ever do a deal, regardless any type of deal, a money got to be changed. I don't care if it's a dollar, got to be some type of money. So Jermaine the pin them knew that he was signed to me and a lot of money was past hands. So you know I didn't want to mess up the little dude career and try to destroy his life and his mother I got a lot of respect for it. So I came home and I said look I didn't stop all this but how's this happening? So I used to feel that suing people is like snitching on people which is stupid. That cost me a lot of money by thinking that way, which is not. But anyway, it was up to Jermaine the pre. I didn't want my [ __ ] money from Lil B wild or his mother. I want my bread from Jermaine or Snoop, whoever I catch first. So, I had got I got shot. I think that's the time I was shot in Miami. You know, it's bad when you don't remember what time you got shot. Been shot so many times, you know. So, I uh I get a ride up to I used to go to the Subway and Fat Burger. It was 2 or 3:00 in the morning, get something to eat, come back to the highrise. And the Lord delivered me, delivered Jermaine decree to me. God did that. Now I'm not saying in a bad way because you know I believe in God but he delivered to him to me. So as I see Jermaine Depri, he see me his eyes big as a [ __ ] I said, "Hey, what's happening with my bread, you know, the little B, you know, he was signed to me. Still is." So he started getting around the bush. I said, "Man, I'mma tell you one more time. What's bracket?" And it wasn't one of those that somebody get slapped so hard they slide down the street. But it was something that made you get your attention. But Jermaine Depri is one of the smartest little [ __ ] around. He called Joe Jackson and put it on speaker and he tells Joe Jackson, "Help Sugar is right in front of me mad." And Joe didn't know he was on speaker and joke, "Man, I know Suge Big Su is a friend of mine." I said, "Miss up, Mr. Jackson." He started laughing. And we start talking and then Jermaine the pre was like you know Suge about to get me and Joe was like no man miss me and Su go way back. Suge give me your word right now that you not going to beat the [ __ ] out the man the pre and I didn't want to be like you know he like man you know he with Janet. So I said all right. I said all right to him. And I I said man give me one of those coffees. He said these for me and John said give me yours then. So I told Jermaine Depri I'm not gonna beat him up. I had, you know, get on his knees and I opened one of the cups of coffee and poured it on top of him. And I can hear Joe Jackson shouting. The phone fell on the ground. It was still on. I actually picked the phone up. And Joe like, "Man, what are you doing to me? You gave me your word." I said, "Man, I only shared some some hot coffee with him or something." I said, "But you know what, Joe? I'm out of here, Mr. Jackson. Never talked about it, never mentioned it, never played games about it. And you know, I shouldn't have did that to to uh Jermaine Degree, even though he cut and did something scandalous. I got to leave the little people alone, man. You know that ain't right. [ __ ] Jermaine, Ray J. Ray J Crew, they all the same height. I apologize to all the short people, men that I offended. And I didn't do it many times. I want you guys I never apologize to anybody, but I'm going apologize to the short people, the men, Ray J, Jermaine Depri, and your little, you know, your little crew. Hope my apologies accepted. I hope that I don't go through no weirdo stuff and want to talk about me again, you know. But word for the wise, it's not what you say about me. It's not how you talk about me. If you really want to get my attention, now I'm not pumping it up. cuz you really want to get my attention and you really want to make a name something for yourself. You know, we know who got a big mouth. Let's sit in the room. We can all have some understanding. You and Ray J. Everything good between both of y'all. I know you was telling me that, you know, he wasn't really a Pyu. What you mean by that? Well, first of all, last time we spoke, I didn't want to be on Ray J. I said, "Ray J need prayer. We need to pray for him because I don't want to be the one to push him over the edge. He hang himself or something." But first and foremost, I don't think Ray J is all to blame. You know, his whole get down been a scam and Ray J into [ __ ] He had no they shouldn't be in. And I I don't know why, but it's funny that all the little dudes who 5'5 and 56 or whatever. I don't care if they artist, guitar players, managers or whatever. All the short guys have a problem with Mr. Knight. It's not my fault. I am not your daddy. I didn't make you short. Don't be mad at me. But one thing you better remember when we get older, you might start off like like me. I can start off at 6'4. I start getting older, you lose an inch or two. So don't be mad at short people. Get shorter. But for is me personally talking about Ray J. Oh, by the way, Ray J, y'all trying to bully my son. Hey, he's a good kid. He wasn't raised like that. You know what I mean? So when y'all call him and threaten him or say I'm not his father and put a picture of him and another [ __ ] on this and that's his father. I love all my kids and I know that boy is my son. But even if he wasn't my son or any of my kids wasn't mine, I didn't took care of them. I love them. I support them. And God gave me even a bigger blessing to take care of a child and raise a child and look out for him that even even the fact that I didn't make them. But to try to bully him, that's some weirdo [ __ ] So, you know, all y'all need to take a break and eat some drink some milk and cookies. That's soft [ __ ] But back then, Ray J saying he pu this call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. It's not it's not up to me to say who from paru ain't from paru but I tell you this if you are from paru what are you doing for the power roots are you getting anybody lawyers are you having anybody in prison are you at the hood days that y'all want to say bmpton are you what are you doing? So I think it's more to it just to say you a gamer you from power rule and you're not showing the love to the power rules. So I have no idea. I know this. I know they surroundings show they not from power rule cuz I can't picture a real power scared to go anywhere even by himself. I can't picture a real power who turning down his face. If you say you from paru and [ __ ] calling you out and want to run it, if you ain't running it, that's a DP. Don't be mad at me. Understand the politics. A real power rule is not going to be talking about somebody who's dead. A real power rule is not going to be talking about somebody in prison. Because if I'm in prison, I ain't there to pull up on you. You damn sure can't pull up on me. So talking bad about people who's not there to have that understanding is weird or [ __ ] But even though I'm in prison and if your heart aches that much that you want to run it, I can stand a right up and go to the hole. You can come fill out a visit form come in the visit room and I can express myself with you. And we ain't talking about doing none of that. I love everybody out there, especially the homies. Stay focused on yourself. Leave real [ __ ] alone. Speaking of Ray J, he was telling me that he lied about seeing Faith on Tupac L cuz I know last year me and him did an interview and I asked him about it. Yeah, that's dope, man. I always heard the rumor that you was around Death Row, but I never knew if it was true or not until now. But I gotta ask you, right, it's no way I can do this interview and not asked you. You did an interview back in 2008, right, where you made a comment saying that you seen Faith on Tupac Love. See, that's what I'm saying. I ain't want to go viral again cuz I done said I done said [ __ ] when I was younger, bro, that I don't even feel like I should have said cuz it was probably nobody business. You get what I'm saying? And so that's why that's what took me back to that of me saying I ain't trying to go viral. That's why I said pot came to my birthday party when I was young, like 18. And that's a that's a positive story. You know what I'm saying? Like that's a that's a nonviral moment. Well, that's [ __ ] And reason why I say that because Jay went with Pac and you know it's always try to give people respect and I do got love for Ray J. But the love will never be shown again because he crossed the line when he recorded me and act like he wouldn't recorded me to play it everywhere. Not that I have anything to hide because whatever anything I say once I can say twice. But back to Faith. Faith is a mother and she should continue to be a mother. But Faith got a [ __ ] side to her too. It been it been certain [ __ ] the faith to know and that [ __ ] find out that [ __ ] know me and she be like well I'm not cool with them. They on some West Coast [ __ ] death row [ __ ] But since Faith should take the time to belittle Pac and say that she was at the studio to do a song and when she had to get paid, Pac asked her to suck his dick. Well, fate. We didn't had no puffy [ __ ] going on or no freakoff parties, but you know, and I know he was getting his dick sucked and I was getting my dick sucked and you was sucking his dick. It had nothing to do with no song. So, all about you never mess with Tupac and you never had sex with Tupac. Allegedly you said that or allegedly do you want to call it? I'm telling the truth. This call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. But you know, see Pac never had a problem getting [ __ ] Pod Pride was one of the the biggest artists I ever seen do it because you have some people who's marketable that really couldn't rap, really didn't have no s [ __ ] to really talk about. Then you have somebody like Tupac both. Now, lyrically, Biggie is one of the best that ever did it still today. And not too many people lyrics can [ __ ] with Biggie lyrics, but Biggie would have to go on the stage and rap to he's sweating to get everybody attention. Tupac come on the stage before he open his mouth and say one verse that [ __ ] come out his shirt all the hoes going to lose their mind rust the stage and throw panties up there before he start rapping Tupac is what you call superstar death row the real death row that is death row which is me I just didn't have artists. I made stars. Superstars. Everybody was a household name before they even put a record out. Big difference. Is there any truth to Dre not wanting to give hot California love? Absolutely not. Because this producer dude did the beat. So Jay Flex is the homie who's signed to my publishing company and he wrote the song California Love. It was just California Love without Roger Tro and none of that. So we listen to the song like man it's a hit song but it'll be a whole five 10 years before we do an album on Andre. So me and Pac being so tight. I tell him I said look take off the second verse and I'mma have Pac write to it. put on all eyes on me. So when P came to the studio, I said, "I got something for you. It's a gift." I said, "This second verse is I took off. So that's you to write to. So take it home and you know, write to it." He heard it said, "Man, I don't got to take it home. I'm going do it right now." So he ran run in the booth and knocked it out. He did it. Then once he did it, we kept playing it back. Then I called this call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. Roger Tropman came in. And I gave him a couple hundred grand. He laced it. Yeah. And Andre was mad about it because he wanted it for himself. So that wasn't even no situation where it was a good one, you know. We did that became history. Uh [ __ ] That's that. And at that time, um Pocket Snoop was falling out because Snoop didn't even show up to the California video. We did two of them. one in the desert and one started off the copy. Like I said, that's before the [ __ ] happened in New York. It was already a situation where I think this jealousy just overtook everybody. You know what I mean? Because it was a time where everybody's running to them. And then Pac came and shot Pac shut the whole West Coast down. Not just Fro took over. P came and did some things that nobody never did before. From my point of view, right, it always seemed like Pock and Dre never clicked. Why was that? Well, when he found out that he wasn't doing the production, he was writing no lyrics. And he was like, man, why this dude getting credit for verses he not writing? And why he getting credit for tracks he not producing? And that was his question. But then the final thing was when Snoop trial was going on, I needed Andre to go up there and be a character witness for him. And he didn't want to do it. So the lawyer's like, "Man, you got to go. We need you." He said, "Man," he was like, "You better cancel that. If it's up to me, he going to prison." So Pac was like hot about that. Because Pac has so much love for Snoop. That's another thing that bother us uh Pac so much. He was like, "I'm riding for this dude and he ain't riding for me." So that's how it all started going bad. And then they did a um a song called um No Diggity No Doubt with Teddy Riley. And at the beginning of it, Dre pretty much disse about, you know, even though he didn't write it, but it was like Pac was dissing. He said a dog can't, you know, all fetch and all that type of [ __ ] So Pac had kept w Snoop verse Snoop came and did get his verse on toss it up even though he didn't do it. Pac went in on him, you know, and said what he said and stood by it. But, you know, Pac was just a different type of man all death row. And a lot of people say a lot of things. A lot of people say this truth on these platforms just because I'm mad about death row. That's crazy because we had moved from death row a long time ago. I started death row in 91. Death Row died in 2001 and I don't know why Snoop or anybody else. If they that good, they should make their own label, but they fail at their label or whatever Jay said make another hoe or whatever he call another Jay-Z. And I feel the same way when everybody's, you know, pounding on pounding on their chest that have nothing to do with nothing. I'm not mad. Nothing but blessings to everybody. Yeah. You referring to Lost Ones when Jay said that lie about making another hoof. Yeah. Once again, you know, I'm not a rapper. When Sam Sne got beat up, was you there? Of course. So when everybody gets into it, it's the red room. So the rules of the red room is this. No matter what we argue about, we can go among ourself and deal with it and you know fight about it. You don't got to fight. But our theme was like this is say for instance that Pac call out corrupt dash snoop anybody right only thing they got to say is I don't want to get down with Pac then everybody say you a [ __ ] and once everybody say you a [ __ ] and you don't want to get down it's over you don't got to fight you accepted that you're a [ __ ] and if you do choose to fight win lose or draw [ __ ] shake hands and it's over with. That's the rules of it. So only time it's been a couple of times it was a little crazy, but Samne was there basically getting Andre's back. So Pac didn't want to do Saturday Night Live with Andre. And I'm like, "Man, what's up?" He's like, "Ban, you my big brother. If you gonna beat me up because everybody gonna get me, let's get it out the way. I'm not doing no song with Andre because he a homosexual. Dre tell him I'm not a homosexual, I'm a bisexual. So pot jumps up shouting, "I told you. I told you." He going around, you know, [ __ ] [ __ ] in the ass. And Dre cool. Dre like, "Man, you silly. You're a silly [ __ ] I can [ __ ] a [ __ ] in the ass if I'mma be a bisexual sometime. [ __ ] I'm letting them drive me. They on top. Fox say that's it. I'm not doing Saturday Night Live. So that's why we did half of California love and all I manage. That being said, now it comes back to if Andre ain't going to get down, somebody close to him got to get down. And Sam Snee used to be with Andre all the time. So it was his turn up. Man gave that boy so many and oo we by the time we got to Monty's he was transformed. You know what I mean? P gave him a good one. Beat [ __ ] out of Sn. Yeah, I remember doing an interview with Jay Flex. You know, he was talking about how Sam Sne got jumped and he said that, you know, after that happened, he never seen him around death row no more. Sam Sne was out of there. But you know that ain't the only thing cuz you know a lot of people was mad because like it was a song Sam Snee did a couple of songs like uh keep your heads ringing that was Sam Sneeed beat Samne lyrics for Sam Sneeed Andre wanted it and change the lyrics for him. So all that stuff start piling up because you know a lot of times people was getting jacked for they for they for they songs you know but I ain't never said jack them for they songs because I don't get the same amount of money. I'm have to pay the same amount of people but every now and then somebody had do something and if Andre wanted it they'll be standing up standing up for they [ __ ] and then Dre take them on to dinner or they hang out. They might coming back being a little more talking a little more timid, but they said, you know, it always end the same way. He can have it. He can say he produce it. I don't care. That's goes from whoever did a lot of songs regardless if it was on, you know. On Snoop's album, soundtracks on the other album, even the Chronic. Once somebody spend a night, they come back is a whole different story. They like, "Let him have it all." The song, the publishing, whatever. Welcome to Death Row. [ __ ] So, Suge, if you can, can you give me the backstory behind the runin that you and Eminem had on a set of fake in the club video? All right. First of all, let's get to Eminem. Whatever I say once, I can say twice and it's recede to it. I don't know how he want to fight me when and when they was at the awards and one of the ones a guy named Gangster Steve I called him one of the best friends in life to have. He called Jeff Fro. I happened to be on the phone. He said he need to talk to me and I was on the phone. He said Eminem was at the awards show. Eminem It's in the alliance. Then they about to eat Eminem Eminem ass up. They called. I talked to somebody. I said, "Hey, I ain't trying to put their business out there. They they can tell their own story." I said, "Hey, telling Lee that uh I don't even know no internet. Leave that white alone. Give him a pass." All right. Moving forward. I'm fresh. We go to a video shoot. Once we go to this video shoot, it's probably like 10 of my homies, maybe 15. It's probably like 20 of my my Mexican homies, you know, some real large Southsiders with all that. So as we go to the to the set, one dude said where he was from time we got in the the vicinity, he got smacked. He gets up, runs and tells them that, "Hey, I'm outside and we outside." And you can hear all these dudes talking. One, they open the door up. When they open that door up, they didn't see nobody leaving or running. They seen Baldhead, brown, long-haired blacks. Baldhead blacks saying, "Come on." Next thing you know, they said they call the police. Next thing you know, you hear sirens, the helicopter shining the light. We barely got out of there. After I got out of there, I had a violation. Cy did an interview. It's Newsweek, Entertainment uh weekly or whatever. And they asked him about that. They said, "Hey, didn't uh they came up there to get y'all?" And Vy was like, "No." He came, he just wanted to know who the new kid on the block was. They came up there real deep with Mexican gang members, black gang members. He said, "Is that a violation of Sugar's night parole being around gang members?" So, and I end up getting violated on all of that type of stuff. So, for Eminem checking me, that's a laughing matter, you know. I mean, it's ridiculous. But at the same time, Eminem, you know, I'm not a rapper. I'm quite sure you can outr me. I'm definitely too big to slap the [ __ ] out of you. But if if that's something he really won't get it, I'm quite sure I can find a little homie in his class and run it. You know, I don't know why everybody got so many stories for me to be a person who's just living my life. Why you worried about me? I'm in prison. But at the same time, and I'm going to say this and I'm going let you guys go, is that why is it so many stories can be said and so many questions can be asked? What was all these conversations when I was on the streets? If everybody all of a sudden tough, it makes no sense. I understand. I have wonderful kids. I'm into I'm being blessed. Got a woman. I got people that I I love. And what's better to have a woman you can be in love with? What's better to have a situation where you can grow with my grandkids? I made it. I didn't supposed to get to be 18. Look at my age now. And I got great I got grandkids. So at the end of the day, say what you need to say to make you find a place that you don't deserve. I don't got to say [ __ ] cuz I'm in my place and I'm still on top. Only thing I need now is my freedom. The 04 Vibe Awards. This a story that's been going around for a while now that you and the guys you was with attacked J. Can you give me the backstory behind that? Well, first of all, he wasn't on stage and I was at the battle awards. I just had parole from prison and while he was uh accepting this award, Quincy was up there talking. As he was talking, he was like, well, you know, getting the details and he's a producer and whatnot. And Andre was sitting there with his with his family, with his wife or what not. And somebody came up to him and uh when they shine the light on him, they was like, "Well, this person going to get this award." And they, you know, shine a light on him and got everybody attention. He got socked about four, five, six, seven times. Then the yellow jackets came and grabbed him and pretty much handcuffed him and took him out of there. At that point, all those dudes and all those tough guys there told the police on me. Police came to like they was going to take me to jail. I'm already on parole, you know. So on that Monday, my PO called me in and that changed my parole conditions. The reason why it was really bad, they changed my parole conditions because we had some unfinished business like on my publishers at Time Warner, they recruit publishing that it wasn't his publishing. And I couldn't deal with the situation because when they made it one of my parole conditions, if myself or a lawyer or anybody know me, talk to him or anybody that know him, I get a year violation, a bullet. And it makes sense to me. So I was telling my parole officer like, "Hey, he's not a baby mother. You're not a battered woman. How is all this coming at me like this? But it did. And it show you this deck is always stacked against a real one, you know. And I know when I interviewed Ali Adam, he told me that when you got shot in Miami, that was the reason why because of what you did at the Vibe Awards and Quincy Jones, he was behind that. So, you know, they felt a type of way about that. Suge about to come to Miami. More Suge in Miami in the Red Room Shore Club, fivestar hotel. but basically know how to swing around there. Kanye West party, you know, and um and um you know him and Pety Pablo there. I talked to Pety Pablo like two weeks after that and um you know what I'm saying? Walked around. When I walked around, I saw Jim Jones and Chrissy. I'm like, "Hey man, y'all go on ahead." Chrissy damn near Ged up. She could just tell by my look, man. Go on, man. She like, "Bae, let's go." He like, "Man, man, let's go." Chrissy, take him and go. So, you know, walk around, hit Sugar in the little thigh. Ain't nothing, take a little picture, go home. You know, he yell. I'm like, listen to this fat [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? [ __ ] I don't know him. Obviously know me. And [ __ ] if he shot me, more power to him. But I say this. Well, one, I don't know him. too. I don't know why I be saying that, but I guess I gotta say either I'm just blessed by God or I was just blessed it was a coward because I heard I heard people talk about that. But in Miami, I never seen who shot me because nobody came up and shot me. Somebody fired a shot and I got shot in the leg, you know, and then when I turned around, they was running. So I wouldn't have, you know, well, good thing about it means he was a coward cuz me, if I'mma shoot somebody, I'm going be real personal with it. I'm going to have blood on my face or somewhere. It ain't going to be my blood. But you know, that make him feel good about himself. I can't say everybody got a position somewhere. We was in Miami like I'd usually be in Miami. Went to uh the short club. Went to the short club. When they seen me coming in, all the police came out and told me I can't bring no guns and then search search me and search my homie. And once we got in there, you know, just a little moving around and nothing different, you know, same old [ __ ] And uh [ __ ] that's basically it. Nobody came approach me. Nobody came around. I know I was talking to somebody and gunshot went off. I got hit like in the leg, in the back of my leg. I turn around and everybody was running. But the crazy thing about that, the police came and handcuffed me. I was like, is that right? So it took like an hour. This call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded in another hour or something to get to the hospital. But all in all, they tried to sue me. All in all, um they wrote some crazy letters. The people who own the short club, main people, they was like, "Well, we glad he got shot because he a [ __ ] That nigga's a crip." I saw that [ __ ] is a gang banging [ __ ] and we glad he got shot. And the crazy thing about this when it happened, I had to been really in the dark because instead of me getting mad fact that these white people called me a [ __ ] I was more mad at the fact that they called me a [ __ ] which is stupid. You know, I was like, they call me a [ __ ] I ain't no [ __ ] right? I should have been mad cuz they called me a [ __ ] So, um, the dude on the short club and the model chick, they some racist, some real cold races. And they br Kanye in it cuz it was Kanye party. And then they was like asking Kanye, do you know what good music is? He in the oath. He said he never heard of that. And so I get on the white people. It's like, hey, don't be the lawyer. Basically, don't be trying to harass Kanye. Leave him alone. So, all in all, it's a whole bunch of racist people. All in all, somebody can shoot me. The police give him a medal, a honor. They said, "Guards, I understand. Only when it come to me. Only in America. That's that. You know, I don't know no [ __ ] ass [ __ ] named Ali Adams, whatever. But I'm quite sure we going to have a conversation as soon as I'm home. But the Vibe Awards was in my house. That [ __ ] was in The Vibe Wars was in the West Coast. On the West Coast. I think a few East Coast dudes tried to put that on. I put that on. I was fresh out. Fresh out on parole. And Quincy Jones was giving Andre award. While he was giving him award, they stopped everything and shine the light on Andre. He was there with his wife and his family or whatever. All I know is this. Somebody went over there and socked. You have 60 seconds remaining. Somebody went over there socked on him about five or six, seven times and uh the yellow co security had to get him off of it. I know this that same night Snoop was there too. He ran away from Dre, not towards Dre. So I don't think they're as tight as they say they are. cuz he watched the man get whooped on. After that, they told the police on me. They sent the video to my parole officer. They made it a one of my parole conditions. If I be any way around Andre, I'm going to jail, get a violation, going to prison. I couldn't talk to nobody that he know or I get a violation. The 96 Source Awards. Can you give me the backstory behind you and Pac having that run in with Biggie and Puffy? Well, as you know, all the awards is fake. I always knew what my order was going to win, not going to win because if I showed up aggressively enough or people pay enough money, anybody can win award. All the awards are fake. They're bought. They're not earned. So that time Pac never won an award. So I made sure Snoop won the artist or a artist of the year. He beat out R. Kelly. Y'all remember that? You go back and look at that footage when Snoop had the burgundy rag on his head. But anyway, this call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. I wanted to make sure Pac win award and Pac was going to win award. We know everybody was gonna be at that award and we always have an afterparty after the awards. So we know what it was. They know what it was. And we probably had I don't know I I didn't count head for head, but it could have been 80 or more or a little less of everybody from Compton wearing burgundy sweatshirts with pink folk on the back. Then we had a whole bus load of the homies from the Bay Area. Then Pocket was in the car with me and the Hummer. Pock had on army te. So everybody came there what they was coming to do. See who's who. But um I don't know. I ain't going I can't go on facts cuz I I don't know this. But the police was waiting on us. When we got ready to pull in and get to the soul train awards, they didn't want to let us in because I guess they knew we was coming and they even told Puffy them we was on the way. Puffy ran and slid under a limo. We argued with the police, the the mos was there. Everybody was there, you know, to express oursel. It was a guy who was with Puffy and Bad Boy in them camp. They was paying the Southsides. So he whip out a gun and [ __ ] We like we ain't worried about no gun. You know what I mean? Cuz everybody right if you know what I mean? Plus the police all there. LAPD. But you know I think those LAPD dudes always had a relationship with those dudes. So they pulled their weapons out. Could the He take the gun from him, handcuff him. I don't know if he went to jail or got time, but you know, it's still the the smoke travels and crowing the KVD. That smoke thick as a [ __ ] So that's all it was. We end up going changing our clothes and going to the after party. Before we go to after party, we go to Monty's, of course. And one of those dudes who messed with Puffy Nimm was there and Pac knew him. We said, "Man, that's they [ __ ] with them." And then one of my guys, he said, "He know them." I said, "Man, this dude, he from New York, but this is my brother. You know, we the same. He with us." So, all those things happened. All things occurred and the footprints was already in the mud. So, I don't know why they act like it was surprising and blame me for killing Tupac. I don't know why I was surprising to send me to prison where they couldn't even give me a violation to the fact that that same case come back and h me now. I'm in court right now. I'm not the Benendes brothers. I didn't kill my parents, but I'm in court right now because they violated my rights of me going per purr. I ain't never had a public uh public defender lawyer ever in my whole history. I had a paid lawyers and the judge on record says I don't think your lawyer is experienced enough and I paid her. He said I'm fine her. She said well my partner been practicing for 35 years. I don't care. He fired my paid attorney and said I had to get a guy named LeBron who been his friends for 40 years and he a public pretender and they did not allow me to go to trial. They're not allowing me to have a trial. Now, if ASAP Rocky can get off, I'd have been free like OJ all day, but I wasn't given that opportunity. They didn't even let my kids come to court, but I ain't My people ain't Rihanna. They can bring their children to court. So, we got to get this right. Right now, the law don't supposed to be blind. So give everybody the fair chance. Yeah, that's crazy. But to backtrack. So Puffy, he ran when he seen you in pop. [ __ ] When we when things start changing, majority of time, I didn't really know how Puffy look in the face no more. Cuz majority of time I seen him. I seen the back of his head. You know, I was at the Roosevelt having dinner, you know, with me, with a [ __ ] or two, couple of homies, and guy came to our table and said, "Hey, Prince is doing his show right now. He want you to come in right now and watch his show, and he got a table for you." So, I'm like, I go in there. So, I I left everybody at the table. I went there solo, you know. Prince sat me down at a table where Puffy was there. Uh, Nas was there. There was a couple of the people there. And when I sat at this table, Prince is the coldest gangster in the world. Don't let the [ __ ] high heels fool y'all. He playing the guitar and said, "What's up, Suge?" and started laughing cuz he know he must been mad at Puffy cuz he planted me at that table. I said two things to Puffy. He get up and leave and when he got outside they put coats over and hid him for nobody could see who they was rushing out. Right-handed guy that actually happened. So we never had no reaction after that. And I can understand why the rumors or the facts or certain people, you know, one thing I want to tell these youngsters, it's okay to be for people to respect you, but when you people when people fear you, they got to get rid of you. It's only two ways to get rid of a real ghetto [ __ ] Either you snitch on them and send them to prison forever or you kill them. If somebody fear you that much, they going to put dollars up to kill you. I'm in here right now where people tried to kill me twice. First time I got shot seven times. They know who did it. I didn't say nothing. They make a song about it, but they got a relationship with the police. Nothing get done. Second time Andre gave these dudes personal checks. They know they got the checks. The people they gave the money to said he paid them to kill me. They had guns. They got the proof they had guns. I'm in prison. So all these things is so far-fetched. So the politics is crazy. The reason why the politics is so crazy because if a person have guns on me and trying to kill me, number one, it could be self-defense. or it could be an accident. Um, I'm 100% blind in one eye, so you know, I can't see from that side. So, that couldn't be the case of me trying to do something. But, at the end of the day, they got the proof of the guns and they got the checks. So, this call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. Don't let people fear you so much that the only solution is to kill you or send you to prison. That's my message to the day for the younger generations cuz I'm obligated to tell in the truth. Hey, you know what? I'm saying this and I'm not throwing no jabs at one [ __ ] I'm saying this to all you idiots, right? YouTube is the best DA in America because you don't even need a DA no more. You don't need no PI. You don't need no detect uh detectives because this person is found guilty because of YouTube. This person is is getting indicted because of YouTube. This person in prison because of YouTube. YouTube is the best DA that the United States of America ever had. So stop talking to YouTube unless you want to be in handcuffs. Unless you should ignite because I can get shot on YouTube. They can see they got guns trying to kill me. See, there are guns and I still somehow someway found myself in prison. But I would have I wouldn't have gotten the shape I need to get into. I would have got to to know a woman so great without this prison or anybody, you know, cuz I enjoy understanding where people come from. I never want to be cut off from the world. So when people like send me messages on the getting out app and all that stuff of mail, believe it or not, it makes me feel my purpose wasn't forgotten. If you do a movie, you always say Universal doing the movie. Universal going to create a production company. Reason why they create a dummy production company in case they get sued, Universal don't get the hit, the production company get the hit and they can always cancel that production company out and walk away from it. So when they was doing straight out accounting, they had people they hired was getting $150 a day for doing security. If they want to give these guys extra money, it would come from the production company. And if Andre want to give these guys extra money, it would come from his business account, not his personal account. Like if I give you a check for my business, this call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded and you do something get in trouble, don't fall on me because you can be an employee or I can hire you to do something from my business account. If I give you a check from my personal account, that mean I'm personally giving you something to do something for me personally. And reason why Andre wouldn't give him a check from his business account because he wanted to keep it a secret. But that's still stupid. So, nevertheless, you had guys getting $150 a day. He gave guys extra money. One guy got a check for $20,000 and he went to the bank to cash it. So, they had to call him and talk to him personally. Did you really get this this dude in here with a dirty t-shirt on and bought me jeans to to cash a $20,000 check? He had to verify and say, "Yeah." The problem with that when they asked the guy, "Why did you get a $20,000 check?" He said, "Because he gave me $20,000 to kill Su Knight." And he told that to more than one guy. So when they called me and I pulled up at dams, they was paid to kill me. I'm not the one said that. The people who got the money said that because they brought the checks to me and to the PI and to the lawyers when I was in the county jail. I'm locked up. Remember, I can't even use the phone. I can't even write nobody. Can't nobody write me. But at the same time, these guys sent the a copy of the check and say, "Hey, show him this." I'm like, "Okay, why you showing me?" He said, "Because he want to know that Andre paid us to kill you." The only problem with that is this. If somebody pays you to kill me, which is murder for hire, and you get spooked and can't do the job and somebody get hurt, somebody even lose their life by accident. Good friend of mine, but he wasn't with me. Still my homie though. So, do that mean I supposed to go to prison? If it was anybody else, anybody else, they wouldn't be in prison. Then you got to remember one other thing. Right before that happened, I got shot seven times. A sheriff gave some idiot a gun who start shooting. I didn't panic. Got shot one in the in the in my belly button in my stomach. Stomach stomach. Arm back shoulder. Right. I walks out the [ __ ] club. The police was talking about shooting me. I get into the anal. They said, "Man, what's going on? Look, you fat [ __ ] get me to the hospital. I get to the hospital. I don't know if all them was doctors, but I know to me look like maybe 10 or more people looking down on me. First thing they tell me, see if you can move this one of your toes. If you can't, don't panic. That don't mean it's permanently. I said, man, I can move my legs. Time for me to have surgery. Somebody looked at me and said, "You know what? That's a miracle." I said, "You know what? It's a blessing from God." So you trying to tell me 90 days before they tried to kill me at Tams, I got shot seven times, but I didn't die. The next time somebody tried to kill me again and somebody else get hurt, somebody else die and I'm in prison when for a fact they already get on the stand and one of the guys told the truth. I can tell you what type of gun this is. That's me getting a gun, putting in my back waistband, putting a shirt over it. This person had a gun. this person had a gun. The crazy thing about it, the guy who got ranked over and all that [ __ ] when he got on the stand, he told he he came walking out with the judge. When the when they gave him immunity and say he can't get in trouble, I thought he was going to let me go and if we had a problem, we could have dealt with it right then and there. Instead, he said when they first pulled a gun on me, he didn't tell me he pulled a gun on me. He just said that I said you'll be dead by the night. He also stated that when they came to the hospital, they had him handcuffed to the bed. If you're a victim, you're not going to be handcuffed to the bed. He also stated and said the DA wanted him to say it's a gun. No, he wanted to. He said it in writing. He said the DA said he wanted to say it's a gun. Scratch that. The DA said it was a gun. He said you can say it was your ready or your or walkie-talkie. This call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. Only problem with that is in this car, that car never left camera view. His cell phone is walkie-talkie was in the car. Only problem with that is if a [ __ ] get ran over, he all messed up and I run over to help him. The last thing I'm thinking about is grabbing a radio, a walkie-talkie. You have 60 seconds remaining. And a radio and a walkie-talkie is too big to put in your back waist pan and pull your shirt over. And the person who he handed to said it was a gun. So, how am I in prison? How the fact that you gave these people checks and they said the reason why you gave me their checks to kill me. Now, I'm not saying nobody should be in prison include me. Only thing they had to do is still today, they could have told the truth. Nobody was going to get in trouble. So they got immunity. If I pulled up once, I'mma pull up again. We don't have to go through all this [ __ ] [ __ ] We don't got to make up stories. Don't use the police to take me out the streets. If you want to kill me, you want to kill me. If you fail trying to kill me, I'm not putting you in prison. Why would you put me in prison? If you pay money to have me killed, why get scared now? And when it's all said and done, at the end of the day, it's like this off that Apple deal. They couldn't have did the Apple deal because of me and death row. And not to mention, I still for the rest of Trey's life, I get 20% management commission. I never ended that deal again. When people in your pocket that's a serious situation for as publishing that's publishing it says that at the end of the day I was controlling too much of the music industry. At the end of the day, they offered to buy my company more than once. At the end of the day, I declined to sell. At the end of the day, Michael Harris, you can hear the recordings. The FBI, the authorities say, "If you can bring down death row, we we we'll take care of you." Basically, let him out of prison. You don't have to do his third time. Now, even though this guy never gave me a penny, if he did, I was saying if he says he put illegal money in the death row, well, how is he Snoop boss? Because he brought Snoop and said we going to do death row together. It's called you can't take money from a poison tree and make something right. Come from a poison tree. Snoop, you said I'm mad because you bought death row. What you buy? Set me up. Show me where y'all paid the money to buy it. Show me how you and Mike as y'all would call a rat owned the company. Show me the paperwork. Show me what you own. Now you were representing death row when you was on death row. I gave you your label. You had doggy style and I gave you the money to start that label. Remember you you had an artist named Trade Trade. You put out this call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. You never paid him. He he shoot your house up. He killed the house. Well, he shot the house up. You take the video, take it to the DA. The DA looks at the video arrest trade who's on doggy style and they tell him either you going to get life or you can take a deal for 10 years. Trad did took the deal for 10 years. said aamikum became Muslim and did his time. Now let's not remember you was running Death Jam. Did you do anything good for Death Jam? Absolutely not. Now you want to start something have nothing to do with you. You going backwards. You trying to create something that should Knight created, but instead of making something big, you disappointed the world by making everything flops. When I put out the dog pound, they sold records. You put out on the dog pound, they sold nothing. It flopped. You and Andre got together. Andre says it's the best album he ever did in his whole life. Well, we cannot tell because it came and went so fast. Not to mention, you know, and I know the truth, but whatever you want to say is your choice. But back to my case, I'm in prison for making sure these dudes didn't go to prison. When you look at Snoop, you got to look at it like this. All the money I paid to the DA, all the money I paid to to the PI after your own homie snitched on you. After I paid the money for Johnny Carin to represent somebody, this person represent somebody. The bodyguard you had, Malik, a good young man, you ruined that man's life. You know he ain't shoot nobody. He know he a shoot nobody. Once I got him to take the case for you, you never spoke to that man again. You didn't give him a dollar. You burnt him. That's coward. That's [ __ ] You still owe me money. When you turned around and got sued for the civil case, I just found out you never paid my money back. I had to pay some of that for you. You didn't even have an album out. You owe me brain. But you ain't too smart because if somebody really owe you, you know, if you really owe somebody, pay that person that money. You gonna spend more money on beefing up security or living in fear or when I come home, knock on my door and explain to me why you got no mommy my bread. We don't got to talk tough. We don't got to talk about each other. That gets nowhere. Whoever have a situation, we can have a situation. But one person or three or four people is not bigger than hip-hop. We should be trying to figure out how to make hip-hop better. Everybody destroying hip-hop. You guys are making it worse. If they doing streams and if you do a million streams and you only get $300, that's not a sign of slavery. That's worse than being a slave. Snoop. That's getting raped without the baby war. But at the same time, what is to talk about? If you have death row, you destroyed it. You messed up the name. Why you not doing something with no limit? You didn't want to be on death row. You was a no limit soldier. Weren't you the same guy saying you had to get away from P because P selling drugs and his own drugs killed his own daughter. How would I know this if you didn't say this? You didn't say it to me personally. We all know you said it for doing something against the homie. The last thing I want to see you in handcuffs. I know you can't handle it. I know you can't deal with this and I don't want to see you in prison. And you're not going to be on prison in prison. Not on my watch. But you know your role. What you participated in. You know your role. what you put up and for you to still lie and speak on pot like y'all was friends is sad. It's sad for the fact that none of y'all came when he got his start. Nobody did any songs with him when he was gone. The thing I'm trying to say is this. We need to grow. And the main thing is like you get a guy, I don't know this guy named Racist John. Somebody sent me a picture of him with all the plaques of all the music I put out. He's standing in front of these plaques. Those not real plaques. That's something he made on his own. It's a sad thing. But people the people who have death row chains never got a death row chain from me. So why you wearing a death row chain? Everybody want to change life. The ones who ain't did [ __ ] want to be somebody. I don't got to talk about nobody. Only thing I can do is be myself and tell my own story. All this extra. I'm not going to argue about nobody. Even when people go to talk about my kids. I love all my kids. I can name all my kids. Todd, Arian, Suge, Jacob, same person. Pav Bailey, Sosa, Magic. Now, truth be told, Champ, I took care of him since he was a baby. I'm not his biological father. Andrew don't have nothing against him. Everybody say, "Oh, you got a gay son." Okay, Andrew's gay, but he's not my son. So, everybody want to attack. Now, one thing about me is I love my kids. And you can get people to try to rewrite history. You can get people who can say something negative about me. It could be a baby mama. [ __ ] if it weren't for me, you would never have nothing. If it weren't for me, would nobody know you? But people choose to take their platform and talk negative. Did that bother me? I better get my blessing from God. It was a woman that came to me. I had about two years left in prison. I'm like, they said, "Well, they trying to give me some time. I'm in I did a crime." I said, "You know what? You got it, son. Right hand in the garden. True story. I said they'd rather give me time than give you time. I do an extra 5 years if you got to do time for you. I can do that [ __ ] for you. They said for real? Yeah. It's a witness who was there. I said, "Yeah, all you got to do is tell them it's me and I if I agree to it, even though I don't know nothing about it, then rather for me to do the time." But what I didn't know until recently until other people and people sending me stuff, these people were wires when they came to visit me in prison. It's not that I was a good quirk. It's not that I was smart and didn't get in trouble cuz the stuff they was asking me, the stuff they was trying to put on me was not true. That's sad for a person who did nothing but good for you to try to destroy your name and your reputation. I think one of the worst things I could have did is bring people into my company. I bring these people in because nobody else would hire. I brought these people in because they can get a job. The majority of these people I bring in, they bring in that police mentality of turning everybody against each other. A lot of people turn against artist. It wasn't me. Didn't have to. But who I did ride for, who I did love, who I always ride for is Tupac. I got love for everybody ever been on death row. The real death row. But if all you guys got death row, why y'all getting mad? Why you even do your own [ __ ] At the end of the day, where we at with it? What could we do to make this better or do y'all really want it? Because Snoop, Mike, Andre, Jazz, we know we know you. This call and your telephone number will be monitored and recorded. You can't find a big check you got from death because you always sold your stuff to everybody else. But won't you guys right now? Y'all want to run run to me about something? Have a real conversation on any level you want to hear me out.