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welcome to today's episode of the NCM hce exam review today we're going to be talking about
group and career counseling now this is not going to be the most exciting episode that
you're going to listen to but there's a lot of important stuff here that you will probably
need to know for the test we're going to review the indications and contraindications for
group therapy and talk about the types of groups and the stages of group formation
identify the group curative factors and review the therapists role in group then we're
going to move on to just briefly touching on the models of career counseling and looking
at career counseling assessment instruments when you're doing your scenarios on the exam
you may have a client who would benefit from career counseling and would need some sort of
an assessment done it's going to be important for you to know that main instruments that are
out there there are tons of them out there so I'm going to present some of the most common
instruments hopefully those will be the ones on a test but I've also given you links to a
couple of web pages where you can find more information just in case you want to brush up on
all the assessment instruments that are out there let's start by talking about group indicators for
group generally you know the most conservative approach to group is using group for interpersonal
issues like communication issues argumentativeness self-esteem those sorts of things however we
do know that group can be really effective with effective issues depression and anxiety
we know that group can also bet be helpful for what I call behavioral issues addiction
relapse prevention coping skills it can also be helpful for cognitive issues now I'm
not talking about psychosis nor am I really talking about personality disorders what I'm
talking about is your cognitive behavioral therapy rebt helping people identify cognitive
distortions and irrational thoughts that are keeping them stuck and group can also be used
to address interpersonal and social issues the client needs to be verbally cognitively and
physically able to participate they need to be able to talk in group and receive information
verbally and understand what's going on people with fetal alcohol spectrum disorder for
example may talk at a very high level however they may receive information and encode
information at a much lower level more like at the level of you know sixth or eighth grade there
for people with feel alcohol spectrum disorders may struggle in groups especially groups with
people that are chronologically similar in age if they are in groups with other people with
FASD then you may be able to work that out but you do want to make sure that the client not
only can talk the talk but also can understand and benefit from what's being said they need to
cognitively be able to participate when I worked in the dual diagnosis facility a lot of times
we would have clients in detox and you can't do groups in detox that the clients in detox are
you know just there and they are still trying to come out of the haze that was brought on by the
substance use therefore group is not appropriate or effective really in detox situations however
once they got over to residential or intensive outpatient we could start addressing cognitions
the client again needs to be able to take the information encode it and then apply it to their
situation they need to be able to understand why is this meaningful to me and physically able
to participate is another one that we don't necessarily think of all the time but they need
to be able to stay awake in detox again people were often exhausted and they weren't feeling well
so they were having a hard time really focusing on what anybody said whether it was the assessment or
the psycho-educational support group meetings or whatever was going on in detox we really didn't
expect people to get much out of those groups what we wanted them to do was start getting
into a routine of getting up and showing up in order to benefit from group though they need
to be physically able they need to be not in excruciating pain they need to be not overly sick
or detoxing they need to be able to be physically present and you may have some people who have
low back issues for example and they can't sit for an hour or an hour and a half straight a lot
of us can't do that that's okay as long as you make reasonable accommodations they're physically
able to participate with accommodations the client also has to be motivated to change clients who
don't want to change are going to go into group they're gonna sit down and they're going to
keep checking their watch trying to wait for group to be over we want them to be motivated to
be there and it's incumbent upon the therapist to help clients see how can this benefit me and I've
done several videos in counselor toolbox podcast on increasing motivation addressing resistance
one of the things that we need to look at when we're working with people in group is why are
they here what will help them get motivated to change they may not have the same goals that I
do in substance abuse I would work with people who are involuntary and their goal was not to stop
using substances that's just it wasn't in their in their mindset their goal was to get off probation
well okay you want to get off probation I want you to not use substances but you have to be clean
you can't test dirty you can't use substances while you're on probation so let's work together
to help you figure out how to stay clean while you're on probation and then what you do after
that that's you know your business that was a way to start helping them get more motivated to
change the client needs to find peer support and feedback beneficial if they are not willing to
take in peer support if they are not willing to receive feedback or they can't tolerate feedback
they're not going to be appropriate for group and the client needs to have a relatively positive
view of group therapy some people have seen too much television that where groups everybody sits
around in a circle and they all look bored and one person monopolizes the conversation that's not
necessarily how group has to go it's important to orient people to group so they do have a positive
view of what can come out of group therapy contraindications for group therapy well like I
said earlier people who refuse to participate if they are just a butt in a seat wow that may help
your financial bottom line that is not helping them and that's not what the test is about the
test is about helping clients not increasing your finances you need to have people who can
honor group agreements including behavioral and attendance agreements if they can't do this
they are not appropriate for group therapy their behavioral issues could be impulsivity related
to mania or ADHD it could be paranoid delusions related to schizophrenia it could be that they
have a job where their schedule changes every week and they can't guarantee that they are going
to be able to make group every week well that's going to be a problem because that really disrupts
the group milieu if people are not committed to it and attending you know each week for 12 weeks
or whatever it is people who are in crisis or have a low tolerance for anxiety and frustration
or are markedly depressed or suicidal are often not appropriate for group therapy think about
group therapy somebody may be talking and it may trigger another client if the other client
cannot tolerate distress for even a moment then they may start decompensating which would
take the focus off the person who is talking you need to have people who can relate but they can
also tolerate distress and tolerate frustration receive feedback and and clients who are markedly
depressed or who have significant trauma issues group therapy is generally not the best choice if
if they have these issues going on they have a lot of stuff that may be more effectively processed
in individual sessions you don't want people's who's people whose defenses would clash with the
dynamics of a group some people's defenses are to withdraw which may make the group feel like
the person doesn't care some people's defenses are to make light of the situation and be humorous
which can be seen as insensitive by group members you want to make sure that you're getting people
together who are generally going to be able to create a safe environment you don't want people
who can't tolerate strong emotions and I've had groups before in residential where we would have
a client in in group and another person would be talking and would start to get upset or start
to get loud and it would trigger other people in the group who couldn't tolerate that person's
intensity it's important to make sure that people can tolerate intensity if you've got somebody
who is a victim of abuse it's really important to recognize that those if somebody in the else in
the group starts emoting it could be triggering or traumatizing to your survivors that are in the
group you want to have at least a back-up plan for them getting out but in terms of the exam
if they can't tolerate strong emotions or are markedly depressed or suicidal or psychotic you're
not going to want to put them in group people who experience severe internal discomfort in groups
are also not appropriate for group therapy my grandmother for example was raised in a time
in her culture it was not okay to be telling everybody your stuff it was not okay to be open
with other people especially other people who were not family and whom you very barely knew
therefore being in group and sharing was would be terribly uncomfortable to her culturally you
want to look at is group therapy appropriate for this person now we'll get in a few minutes to the
different types of groups some types of groups may be appropriate psycho-educational groups may be
appropriate for a wider range of people therapy groups and support groups may not be well here we
go types of groups and I've broken this down into three sort of categories if you will first we're
going to talk about is you can have groups that are gender based you can have a women's group or
a men's group where you talk about issues that are related to people's gender identity you can
have something that's a group that's topic based a depression group a group on PTSD now
remember before I said you don't want to have people who who have experienced a lot of trauma
in a group and you don't where they're sharing details of what's going on topic based PTSD groups
usually focus on identifying symptoms triggers for symptoms and mitigating those symptoms topic
based groups can also include addiction or postpartum depression any sort of diagnosis if
you will it can all you can also have groups that center around something like divorce if you're
you've got a lot of clients who have adjustment disorder that is resulting from a current divorce
and you can have skills based groups and these are more psycho-educational in nature where you teach
coping skills problem-solving skills interpersonal skills distress distress tolerance skills people
are going to that group in order to learn tools to help them deal with their emotions and maybe alter
their cognitions so they can live in a happier healthier sort of space so those are generally the
different types of groups that are out there or labels I don't know how you want to call it the
next category that I have is the method or again the type of group you can have support groups the
support groups are not led by licensed clinicians they are led by Pierce and they generally and they
provide guess what support a psycho-educational groups tend to be your skills based groups and
will often focus on teaching something about the diagnosis and/or skills to address symptoms and
then therapy groups can be either gender-based topic based or to a certain extent skill based
but generally gender based or topic based and these are the groups where you've got you know
eight people in a room and they are relatively homogenous on some dimension whether it's their
gender identity or their diagnosis or whatever it is and you're going to work through issues
that are common to that group you can also have groups that are open or closed and open groups
are groups that people can join any particular day and/or sometimes they're called open-ended
groups open groups are great because as a seat becomes vacant you can put a butt in that seat
however when new people join the group there is a process you've got to go through to kind of
get that person indoctrinated if you will and into the group milieu closed groups are short
term task oriented groups they're generally for example a depression management group that may be
8 to 12 weeks when it starts on day one you have ten clients when it ends on week 12 hopefully you
still have ten clients the same ten clients new people don't come in and then the next session
starts where you can have a whole new group of eight to twelve people when you're doing group
it's important to remember and open-ended groups this kind of happens on a relatively weekly basis
but you have the stages forming is when everybody gets together and gets to know one another this
is the ice-breaking stage if you will storming is when there's jockeying for power you have some
people who think that they know a lot more you have other people who tend to be more subordinate
or submissive people are trying to find their place in the power structure in the microcosm of
society that is represented in that group norming is when everybody finds their rhythm the group has
figured out you know how to function effectively as a group once they get to that point it leads
to performing you know they know how to operate effectively now so let's operate let's figure out
what to do and how to make this happen and then a journeying which doesn't rhyme with the other ones
but couldn't find another word is when you start concluding you start wrapping up you know this
is the next to last session or the last session you're tying up everything that you learned and
translating it to practice to make sure that people can generalize it in their life when they
when they're not in group anymore group curative factors have been identified as the social
microcosm that allows for multiple transferences when you're in a group you're going to have people
that remind you of authority figures that remind you of friends you had that reminds you of your
parents maybe who knows people tend to behave once they get into that norming stage people tend to
behave in group analogous to the way they behave in the real world therefore observing them in
group you can start getting an idea about what may be prompting the difficulties there have in having
an interpersonal interactions or things that may be contributing to their unhappiness in their
life group also provides a lot of hope people see each other recovering people see each other
getting better it provides a sense of universality people understand they're not alone anymore you
know oh this person is grieving too this you know we're all grieving in here about something or
we've all experienced some sort of trauma group can bring out altruism in people typically a
well-functioning group the group members want to help one another as somebody starts to break
down or cry you will see other group members go over to try to console that person as people
celebrate successes the group gets happy for them and it gets people out of their own head and
encourages them to participate interactively with the group community and group also provides self
understanding and insight as people interact in group it's possible and we're going to talk
about the therapists role in a minute it's possible to help them see how their behaviors may
be contributing to their current situation and they start understanding what they're doing what
happens when they do that and why they're doing it and then they can make choices from that point
about what they want to do if they want to change that behavior or not the therapists role and group
it's actually pretty active initially you want to explain the phases in the group process help
people understand that initially you know I've never met you before you've never met me before
that's okay even if met each other before I'm not expecting you to start telling your deepest
darkest secrets on day one of the group day one of the group is what's called forming and this
is when we get to know each other and over the next couple of weeks we're going to go through
a couple more stages where we start figuring out you know what we're comfortable doing and
explaining to people what the group process will look like so they understand that the first couple
of sessions may not be as intense as they will get down the road the therapist goal goal and role is
to create and maintain cohesion and participation we need to start in that forming stage that first
day of group helping people identify similarities between themselves and others in order to get
that sense of normative normalcy if you will I don't like normal I don't like that word but so
they can understand that they're not alone they can start drawing similarities between themselves
and other people and start seeing how they may benefit and be able to help others in that group
which leads to culture building there's going to be a time where you've got to talk about what's
the culture of this group the culture of this group is to be accepting and validating and you
know you're gonna go through discussing what it's like to create a safe environment the therapist
encourages people to focus on the here and now and illuminates processes at work if you can see
two clients are exchanging hostile or unpleasant nonverbals then that might be something to talk
about if you can see one client for example is giving a lot of minimal encouragers and is just
really there and listening and being supportive to somebody else who is telling an emotional
story you can bring that out and you can ask the person who was talking you know how did it
make you feel when Sam was clearly giving you support and encouragement to you know get this
story out therapists do need to use appropriate self disclosure you don't want to be just a fly
on the wall or a referee in group you want the group members to understand that you're human too
and be authentic if something is powerful to you talk about it if something is frustrating to you
or if somebody's behavior is frustrating to you then that might be appropriate to therapists
facilitate the resolution of interpersonal conflict a lot of times people who are in
group do have some deficit or problems with interpersonal skills they may not be comfortable
with conflict so they tend to submit to authority figures likewise they may be overly aggressive and
it's important to help people figure out how to effectively and assertively resolve interpersonal
conflict therapists use linking and blocking in order to maintain this culture linking is where
you identify similarities among group members so they can feel a sense of cohesion blocking just
like it sounds like is when you use verbal or nonverbal behaviors in order to interrupt and
inappropriate behavior if somebody is being aggressive you may have to tell them to stop
and if they don't stop you may have to use a hand signal a gesture or worst-case-scenario
excuse them from the group blocking serves to keep the group a safe place to be not to squelch
expression but to make sure everybody feels safe the therapist needs to model giving and receiving
feedback using those I statements and also accepting feedback at the end of group for example
asking everybody to go around the room and share something that they got out of group had a group
benefit you tonight and something that they would like to do differently or something else that
they would like to approach in future groups the therapists can start eliciting feedback and
encouraging people to be assertive and identify what they want in need the therapist needs to
use structured activities and in your scenarios you may be presented with something that says
this group is in the forming stage what types of activities would you use this group is in
the performing stage what types of activities would you use obviously in forming you're going to
use more in the forming stage you're going to use more icebreaker type activities get-to-know-you
activities psycho-educational stuff to get people to start talking but not make them feel like
you're ripping the band-aid off an open wound in the performing stage activities may include
role plays or art therapy or something that is going to really help them work through their
issues therapists need to identify and discuss group themes and patterns if there seems to be
a theme going through the group maybe you have a lot of people who are experiencing anxiety
about upcoming holidays or something you can identify that one of the things I do in group
when I start the group I have everybody give me a recap of what their week was you know how to
have have things been going over the past week and what was the most significant thing that
happened everybody shares that and then I try to draw connections between what's going on and
identify sort of a you defying theme and that guides group maybe it maybe it's an assertiveness
or lack of assertiveness that plagued the people in in group over the past week so we may focus
on assertiveness skills and talking about you know how it might feel to be assertive you're
also going to challenge harm harmful behaviors and address interaction of group members outside
of the group as well that kind of sums up really quickly group counseling and you probably had
an entire semester of group counseling there are a lot of what's the word I'm looking for
flashcard sets on Quizlet for MCM hce group counseling review go to quiz or type in Quizlet
and that phrase and you will find some really good review flashcards it may be more information
than you need to know or it might be a good review that's kind of up to you let's move on to career
counseling career counseling doesn't take up as much of the NCM HCE as you probably saw on the
NCE however like I said earlier you may have a client who comes in they are a widow or who needs
to transition from being a homemaker to getting a job and you know she has been at home raised
the kids etc all her life and now she needs to get a job in order to support herself since her
significant other passed on what do you do you have to fit know which assessment instruments
are going to be most useful we'll talk about that a little bit more as we get through briefly
the models of career counseling trait and factor models focus on individual abilities interests and
personalities and work adjustment in order to help figure out what sort of situation what sort of
work environment is going to be most congruent between the person's characteristics and their
demands for example I tend to be an extrovert I tend to be it I'm going to use MBTI terminology
I tend to be extroverted intuitive feeling and judging really strong on the judging I don't do
well with spontaneity at all I like structure I of structure but I also really don't like
working by myself and being by myself all the time I would not be happy in a lab by myself
all the time I am not detail-oriented I would not be good in accounting there are things like
that that I know would be incongruent with my characteristics and traits people tend to be
happier when they're in environments that are more congruent sometimes they're not and they're
in a job or they've chosen a career that is not totally congruent with who they are therapeutic
ly we can help them figure out possibly how to modify their environment to be a little bit more
congruent but that's you know down the line the client centered model emphasizes self-concept and
the existence of choices based on what the client perceives is best in his or her life just like
client centered counseling the goal is to talk with the client and help them explore the choices
that might be available to them to help them be happier in their career or help them choose a
career that's going to make them happy and then make those choices believing that people can make
the best choices for themselves if they're given the support and the encouragement and enough
information the psychodynamic model stresses internal motivations and coping mechanisms and the
person's belief or knowledge about what he or she is able to do psychodynamic basically takes into
consideration people's belief system about their capabilities when I was in high school and and
even college math wasn't not my strong suit so my belief is that I am not good at math you know
that's just not my thing therefore my internal motivations would probably be to avoid that
however I wanted to go to medical school so my internal evasion was you know really strong to
go to medical school my sense of efficacy to pass calculus and organic chemistry was very low so
there's a disparity there unfortunately when I was going through grad school undergrad I did not have
effective coping skills to manage the distress and get through the stuff that I wasn't so good at I
didn't have enough efficacy or belief in myself to get through it therefore you know I ended up
changing my major to something that didn't require as much math my internal motivation was always to
help people I wanted to be able to help people and make people healthier and happier however I didn't
have the ethicist self-efficacy that I could past the stem classes for medical school therefore
I arrived at a different conclusion developmental model's focuses on career as a developmental
maturational process now the career maturity index is one assessment instrument that's out there
to identify where somebody is in their career if you're talking to somebody who is in high school
obviously they haven't started their career so they're in the exploration stage and they're
learning and they're moving towards something that's their phase of development as somebody
is in once somebody's taken a career then their focus may be on promotion and advancement in that
career you want to take a look at where people are at currently a lot of people tend to retire from
one job at a certain point and start a second career so at the end of somebody's career they may
want to explore a new career it's important to you know take into consideration your clients age
and ideas and what they want to do in the future behavioral career counseling focuses on making
realistic career choices that's the behavior and eliminating anxiety about making such choices
basically we want to educate people about you know what they can do and effectively what their
what their skills what they're capable of and help them look at the facts and make realistic choices
about what's going to work for them and what's going to what their skills are going to allow them
to do the values model helps client choose choose careers in line with their values and there
are four dimensions that it looks at the time orientation some people are future oriented and
they're looking towards retirement and they want to make as much money as possible right now so
they can retire in 50 years some people are past focused they grew up in an unhealthy environment
and they want to help people so those people don't have to so other people don't have to grow up
in an unhealthy environments there print some people are present focused and they are focused
on what's right in front of them right now and accounting can be very good at this because it's
you know very tangible and what's in front of you and then you've got people who are unconcerned
with schedules they are not tied to the future to the past to the present they are just going
along and they're very flexible socially you have people who are individualistically
oriented they are very concerned about self promotion making sure they climb up that
corporate ladder and start earning more money and a job is a means to an end for them and serve
to benefit them collateral or collectivist people explore careers in terms of how it will benefit
the greater good socially they want to make sure that their career is going to fit with not only
what makes them happy you know money a power prestige whatever but also fits with their other
other people in their life so they have enough time to go to their kids soccer games and be home
every evening to see their spouse etc and then hierarchical social orientation people prefer
to be in environments in which there is some sort of hierarchy or paramilitary structure where
there's no confusion about who has responsibility for what the activity value is another dimension
that is looked at and this really looks at active versus passive responses does the person value
actively trying to change something they see a problem they see something can always be improved
they're actively and proactively trying to make changes or are they more passive and reactive
to what goes on they are fine handling stuff they're not going to go out and look for it but
if something happens they are you know gonna deal with whatever comes their way on any particular
day and then life values which can be assessed with the life values inventory go figure some of
these are really obviously named which is really awesome the life values inventory helps people
see what's important to them and you know is a big house and a lot of money and a lot of power
important to them or is being home every night and working 8:00 to 5:00 and having you know ability
to take vacations vacation days is that important with what values are important to them and then
you wrap all that in a bow and figure out or compare those values to the careers the person is
looking at and figure out which career would best and then we move over to career choice people
choose and and this kind of goes with trait and factor theory people choose careers based in part
on their personality if you will and Holland has a I believe it's an octagon that identifies all of
these characteristics but basically it the acronym is Riya SEK the person who is more realistic
likes hands-on occupations like landscaping and auto mechanic the investigative person likes
problem-solving they are going to be often your lawyer and your police officer and your scientist
the artistic person go figure likes making things of beauty and being artistic and contributing to
the Arts social personalities like helping others they do what they do because they want to help
and encourage everybody in their section of the world to be as happy as possible and to succeed
enterprising people these are leaders they're the ones who want to be CEOs they're the ones who
want to be changers and power is important to them they like to lead they like to command and your
conventional person is somebody who likes things that are routine and systematic they're going to
be people who don't mind going to work and doing the same thing actually they prefer it going
to work and doing the same thing every day day in and day out because they know what to expect
and there's a lot of different jobs that can kind of fall into this you know bank teller is pretty
routine accountant can be pretty routine factory worker is often very routine encouraging people
to look at what their preferences are most people are a combination of multiple preferences there's
one thing that dominates but there are subordinate preferences for me social go figure is my dominant
personality trait enterprising and investigative tend to fall underneath it so I have those three
dimensions more in common how do we figure it out well let's talk about Holland first since we just
finished the rise sec model to identify people's preferences based on Holland's career choice
theory you can do the vocational preference inventory and it helps categorize people into the
Holland's the six types by having them rate 160 jobs based on I would love to do this or no that
sounds awful the self-directed search identifies competencies attitudes and self-efficacy toward
occupations and again is based on Holland's six types vocational exploration and insight is used
to increase occupations for consideration and help people understand what they want out of careers
now all of those are kind of similar my guess is you're not going to be asked to choose between
all three of those choose one be aware those are Holland oriented tests so is my vocational
situation however my vocational situation is appropriate for somebody who currently has
a career because they're going to be looking at their vocation their current vocational
situation to identify what parts of that fit with their identity and what barriers there are
in their current vocational situation that are making the environment incongruent with their
preferences the Ashland interest assessment is for people who have barriers to employment due to
disabilities that's the key factor here if you've got somebody who has a disability and it's act
and it's acting as barrier the Ashland interest assessment maybe the one you should choose the
career assessment in inventory focuses on careers that require zero to two years of post-secondary
training you're not going to use this for somebody who is a junior in college or for somebody who's
already graduated college you can use it for an adult who never went to college who may want to
go back to get additional training you can use it for high school students who may be considering
a two-year degree for a career making again making sure you're choosing the assessments that are most
appropriate to your client the career attitudes and strategies inventory assesses job satisfaction
work involvement career worries family commitments and several other dimensions that will impact
their job choice we want to look at what people expect from their career and again help them
figure out a career path or a career environment that is best going to fit their attitudes and
strategies career beliefs inventory identifies cognitive distortions about themselves themselves
in their career it has different sections that help people identify how they feel about their
current career situation what they identify as seeming necessary for happiness factors that
influence their decisions changes they're willing to make and other dimensions that you
know I didn't put on here because that's not what's most important what's most important is to
recognize that the career beliefs inventory again is one of those tools that doesn't necessarily
help people choose a career based on their traits but it helps them look at their beliefs about
what what's important to them and what work should be liked in order to find an environment that's
conducive it doesn't focus as much on their actual skills as the trait and factor Theory does and the
career interest inventory helps students decide what courses to take and how to prepare for their
preferred career the career orientation inventory assesses biology based careers I know I remember
seeing this one on when I took the NCM HCE and it's one of those that's kind of thrown in there
to throw you off because it doesn't sound like something that's specifically biology oriented
make a note mental note of that that the career orientation inventory is only for people who want
to be in biology based careers from scientists to physician and everything in between the guide for
occupational exploration explores interests in twelve areas and correlates with the dictionary
of Occupational titles this is what we used way back when when I did my master's in rehabilitation
counseling the vocational interest inventory and the strong interest inventory both help people
identify careers based on their interests it asks them guess what of these things which one
seemed most interesting to you what would you like doing and then it helps narrow the different
careers down to careers that are in those areas the differential aptitude test key word here is
aptitude helps identify job-related abilities and aptitudes what are you good at there's what
do you like in the interest inventory and then the aptitude test is what are you good at did you
do really well in high school math and biology or did you do better in English the discover Career
Planning program is a comprehensive computer based career guidance system offered on the internet
for grades 5 through adult as important grades 5 through adult so if you're dealing with a young
person especially somebody who is in maybe middle school you're probably not going to be doing a
career planning assessment for somebody who's five but somebody who's I guess that would be 11
in grade five it's probably gonna be more towards middle school but this would be an appropriate
assessment to use with somebody who is 12 13 14 and up it includes inventories of interest
abilities and values plus detailed information about occupations the discover Career Planning
program encompasses a lot of the different things that we've already talked about not only does
it identify interests it also looks at their abilities their aptitudes and their values the
system of interactive guidance information or ciggy is designed to help university students and
adults make informed career decisions through self assessments and in-depth current educational
and job information the discover and the ciggy are newer tests so I don't know if they're gonna
make it on the NCM hce however they are really commonly seen in vocational rehabilitation in
the real world right now I would suggest just you know making a mental note of them and
being aware that they are out there I've also given you a link to a web page that has
a litany of other tests to review if you just want to be aware it's important to be aware of
the selection criteria for group counseling not everybody is appropriate for group not everybody
is appropriate for every type of group some people will be uncomfortable in a co-educational group
some people will be uncomfortable in a support group it's important to know what your clients are
comfortable with and help them see the benefit of group counseling and how group counseling can
help them in order to find the best person fit for the groups that are available in preparing
for the NCM hce remember to review your series of career counseling and no the most common
tests to use and on which clients those tests are appropriate which test measure values which
Testament measure aptitudes which tests measure interests which tests are appropriate for
middle school and high schoolers which tests are appropriate for adults you see where we're
going here because you will probably be faced with at least one question in your scenarios on
that type of testing so let's talk about some scenarios this is you these are your helpful
hints if you will tom is a 34 year old white male who completed two years of community college
and as him is married with three children he was referred by his employer due to anger management
issues at work during the assessment you note that tom is well oriented verbal but appears to have
a lot of anxiety especially related to finances right now so the first question is group therapy
appropriate for him well he's male okay that's fine whatever he completed two years of community
college so theoretically he is cognitively able to participate he does have some anger management
issues you'd want to explore a little bit more what that was about but you do notice that a lot
of his issues center around anxiety specifically related to finances it's not generalized anxiety
disorder it's anxiety about money you know maybe the three children are putting a strain on his
bank account prep therapy would probably not be overly helpful for Tom at this point because
his issue is very narrow in focus and it's less about anger management and more about helping him
reduce his anxiety so he is not always on edge what other resources might be helpful financial
counseling career counseling career counseling could definitely be helpful for Tom at this
point to help him see if there are other options that might help him make more money those are the
things that I would look at individual counseling can be helpful to examine cognitive distortions
related to what's going on and potentially help him identify ways to manage his anxiety so he
is not constantly on edge and is less likely to bite somebody's head off at work there are
more study resources here that you can look at in terms of you know what you might do to help
Tom out Julie is a 20 year old student getting her bachelor's degree in liberal arts she does not
yet know what she wants to do for a career she's 20 years old which means she's probably a junior
she's getting ready to graduate you know in 12 18 months which of the following assessments would
be appropriate the Ashland interest assessment well that was for people who have barriers
to employment due to disabilities she has no known disability so that wouldn't be appropriate
the career assessment inventory well that's for people who want a career that requires zero to two
years of college we establish that Judy's Julie is already a junior she's passed that mark and almost
finished with a four-year degree so probably gonna have to get a masters or figure out something
that a bachelor's in liberal arts will help her get the career attitudes and strategies inventory
assesses job satisfaction work involvement career worries family commitments etc she doesn't have
a job yet so that's not gonna be helpful career beliefs inventory identifies cognitive distortions
about themselves and their career no she doesn't have a career yet so she needs to figure out
you know what she wants to do career interest inventory well that might be helpful because it
explores interest to help her narrow her career choices the guide for occupational exploration
might be helpful because it explores interests in 12 areas and correlates with a dictionary of
Occupational titles the guide for occupational exploration is actually online now and they have
a lot of online assessments just as a side note the vocational interest inventory or the strong
interest inventory those might be helpful because they help people identify careers based on their
interests and the differential aptitude test remember the key word here is aptitude helps
people identify their job-related abilities so that might be helpful you may choose one of the
interest inventories and one of the aptitude tests that's up to you and you know obviously dependent
on what they give you in in the scenario but you do need to make sure again you can see that there
are a lot of these that sound like they might fit career assessment into inventory sure why not
no because that's not going to be appropriate for her flashcards is the best way to memorize
those tests and who they're appropriate for I'm sorry I know it's mundane but it is important
to be aware of who those tests are appropriate for and yes in regular practice you would probably
go online and Google and figure out or search the internet and figure out a test from that point
on or your organization would already have some tests there but for the purposes of testing you
have to have them memorized at least long enough to take the test okay everybody have a great day
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