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welcome to the NCMHCE exam review podcast I'm  your host dr. dawn elise snipes this podcast   is brought to you by Counselor toolbox podcast  and allceus.com counselor continuing education   where you can get unlimited on-demand CEUs  for $59 or unlimited live webinars for $40.00   go to all CEUs dot-com hey there everybody and  welcome to today's episode of the NCM hce exam   review today we're going to be talking about  group and career counseling now this is not   going to be the most exciting episode that  you're going to listen to but there's a lot   of important stuff here that you will probably  need to know for the test we're going to review   the indications and contraindications for  group therapy and talk about the types of   groups and the stages of group formation  identify the group curative factors and   review the therapists role in group then we're  going to move on to just briefly touching on   the models of career counseling and looking  at career counseling assessment instruments   when you're doing your scenarios on the exam  you may have a client who would benefit from   career counseling and would need some sort of  an assessment done it's going to be important   for you to know that main instruments that are  out there there are tons of them out there so   I'm going to present some of the most common  instruments hopefully those will be the ones   on a test but I've also given you links to a  couple of web pages where you can find more   information just in case you want to brush up on  all the assessment instruments that are out there let's start by talking about group indicators for  group generally you know the most conservative   approach to group is using group for interpersonal  issues like communication issues argumentativeness   self-esteem those sorts of things however we  do know that group can be really effective   with effective issues depression and anxiety  we know that group can also bet be helpful for   what I call behavioral issues addiction  relapse prevention coping skills it can   also be helpful for cognitive issues now I'm  not talking about psychosis nor am I really   talking about personality disorders what I'm  talking about is your cognitive behavioral   therapy rebt helping people identify cognitive  distortions and irrational thoughts that are   keeping them stuck and group can also be used  to address interpersonal and social issues the   client needs to be verbally cognitively and  physically able to participate they need to   be able to talk in group and receive information  verbally and understand what's going on people   with fetal alcohol spectrum disorder for  example may talk at a very high level however they may receive information and encode  information at a much lower level more like at   the level of you know sixth or eighth grade there  for people with feel alcohol spectrum disorders   may struggle in groups especially groups with  people that are chronologically similar in age   if they are in groups with other people with  FASD then you may be able to work that out but   you do want to make sure that the client not  only can talk the talk but also can understand   and benefit from what's being said they need to  cognitively be able to participate when I worked   in the dual diagnosis facility a lot of times  we would have clients in detox and you can't   do groups in detox that the clients in detox are  you know just there and they are still trying to   come out of the haze that was brought on by the  substance use therefore group is not appropriate   or effective really in detox situations however  once they got over to residential or intensive   outpatient we could start addressing cognitions  the client again needs to be able to take the   information encode it and then apply it to their  situation they need to be able to understand why   is this meaningful to me and physically able  to participate is another one that we don't   necessarily think of all the time but they need  to be able to stay awake in detox again people   were often exhausted and they weren't feeling well  so they were having a hard time really focusing on   what anybody said whether it was the assessment or  the psycho-educational support group meetings or   whatever was going on in detox we really didn't  expect people to get much out of those groups   what we wanted them to do was start getting  into a routine of getting up and showing up   in order to benefit from group though they need  to be physically able they need to be not in   excruciating pain they need to be not overly sick  or detoxing they need to be able to be physically   present and you may have some people who have  low back issues for example and they can't sit   for an hour or an hour and a half straight a lot  of us can't do that that's okay as long as you   make reasonable accommodations they're physically  able to participate with accommodations the client   also has to be motivated to change clients who  don't want to change are going to go into group   they're gonna sit down and they're going to  keep checking their watch trying to wait for   group to be over we want them to be motivated to  be there and it's incumbent upon the therapist to   help clients see how can this benefit me and I've  done several videos in counselor toolbox podcast   on increasing motivation addressing resistance  one of the things that we need to look at when   we're working with people in group is why are  they here what will help them get motivated to   change they may not have the same goals that I  do in substance abuse I would work with people   who are involuntary and their goal was not to stop  using substances that's just it wasn't in their in   their mindset their goal was to get off probation  well okay you want to get off probation I want you   to not use substances but you have to be clean  you can't test dirty you can't use substances   while you're on probation so let's work together  to help you figure out how to stay clean while   you're on probation and then what you do after  that that's you know your business that was a   way to start helping them get more motivated to  change the client needs to find peer support and   feedback beneficial if they are not willing to  take in peer support if they are not willing to   receive feedback or they can't tolerate feedback  they're not going to be appropriate for group and   the client needs to have a relatively positive  view of group therapy some people have seen too   much television that where groups everybody sits  around in a circle and they all look bored and   one person monopolizes the conversation that's not  necessarily how group has to go it's important to   orient people to group so they do have a positive  view of what can come out of group therapy contraindications for group therapy well like I  said earlier people who refuse to participate if   they are just a butt in a seat wow that may help  your financial bottom line that is not helping   them and that's not what the test is about the  test is about helping clients not increasing   your finances you need to have people who can  honor group agreements including behavioral   and attendance agreements if they can't do this  they are not appropriate for group therapy their   behavioral issues could be impulsivity related  to mania or ADHD it could be paranoid delusions   related to schizophrenia it could be that they  have a job where their schedule changes every   week and they can't guarantee that they are going  to be able to make group every week well that's   going to be a problem because that really disrupts  the group milieu if people are not committed to it   and attending you know each week for 12 weeks  or whatever it is people who are in crisis or   have a low tolerance for anxiety and frustration  or are markedly depressed or suicidal are often   not appropriate for group therapy think about  group therapy somebody may be talking and it may   trigger another client if the other client  cannot tolerate distress for even a moment   then they may start decompensating which would  take the focus off the person who is talking you   need to have people who can relate but they can  also tolerate distress and tolerate frustration   receive feedback and and clients who are markedly  depressed or who have significant trauma issues   group therapy is generally not the best choice if  if they have these issues going on they have a lot   of stuff that may be more effectively processed  in individual sessions you don't want people's   who's people whose defenses would clash with the  dynamics of a group some people's defenses are   to withdraw which may make the group feel like  the person doesn't care some people's defenses   are to make light of the situation and be humorous  which can be seen as insensitive by group members   you want to make sure that you're getting people  together who are generally going to be able to   create a safe environment you don't want people  who can't tolerate strong emotions and I've had   groups before in residential where we would have  a client in in group and another person would be   talking and would start to get upset or start  to get loud and it would trigger other people   in the group who couldn't tolerate that person's  intensity it's important to make sure that people   can tolerate intensity if you've got somebody  who is a victim of abuse it's really important   to recognize that those if somebody in the else in  the group starts emoting it could be triggering or   traumatizing to your survivors that are in the  group you want to have at least a back-up plan   for them getting out but in terms of the exam  if they can't tolerate strong emotions or are   markedly depressed or suicidal or psychotic you're  not going to want to put them in group people who   experience severe internal discomfort in groups  are also not appropriate for group therapy my   grandmother for example was raised in a time  in her culture it was not okay to be telling   everybody your stuff it was not okay to be open  with other people especially other people who   were not family and whom you very barely knew  therefore being in group and sharing was would   be terribly uncomfortable to her culturally you  want to look at is group therapy appropriate for   this person now we'll get in a few minutes to the  different types of groups some types of groups may   be appropriate psycho-educational groups may be  appropriate for a wider range of people therapy   groups and support groups may not be well here we  go types of groups and I've broken this down into   three sort of categories if you will first we're  going to talk about is you can have groups that   are gender based you can have a women's group or  a men's group where you talk about issues that are   related to people's gender identity you can  have something that's a group that's topic   based a depression group a group on PTSD now  remember before I said you don't want to have   people who who have experienced a lot of trauma  in a group and you don't where they're sharing   details of what's going on topic based PTSD groups  usually focus on identifying symptoms triggers for   symptoms and mitigating those symptoms topic  based groups can also include addiction or   postpartum depression any sort of diagnosis if  you will it can all you can also have groups that   center around something like divorce if you're  you've got a lot of clients who have adjustment   disorder that is resulting from a current divorce  and you can have skills based groups and these are   more psycho-educational in nature where you teach  coping skills problem-solving skills interpersonal   skills distress distress tolerance skills people  are going to that group in order to learn tools to   help them deal with their emotions and maybe alter  their cognitions so they can live in a happier   healthier sort of space so those are generally the  different types of groups that are out there or   labels I don't know how you want to call it the  next category that I have is the method or again   the type of group you can have support groups the  support groups are not led by licensed clinicians   they are led by Pierce and they generally and they  provide guess what support a psycho-educational   groups tend to be your skills based groups and  will often focus on teaching something about the   diagnosis and/or skills to address symptoms and  then therapy groups can be either gender-based   topic based or to a certain extent skill based  but generally gender based or topic based and   these are the groups where you've got you know  eight people in a room and they are relatively   homogenous on some dimension whether it's their  gender identity or their diagnosis or whatever   it is and you're going to work through issues  that are common to that group you can also have   groups that are open or closed and open groups  are groups that people can join any particular   day and/or sometimes they're called open-ended  groups open groups are great because as a seat   becomes vacant you can put a butt in that seat  however when new people join the group there is   a process you've got to go through to kind of  get that person indoctrinated if you will and   into the group milieu closed groups are short  term task oriented groups they're generally for   example a depression management group that may be  8 to 12 weeks when it starts on day one you have   ten clients when it ends on week 12 hopefully you  still have ten clients the same ten clients new   people don't come in and then the next session  starts where you can have a whole new group of   eight to twelve people when you're doing group  it's important to remember and open-ended groups   this kind of happens on a relatively weekly basis  but you have the stages forming is when everybody   gets together and gets to know one another this  is the ice-breaking stage if you will storming is   when there's jockeying for power you have some  people who think that they know a lot more you   have other people who tend to be more subordinate  or submissive people are trying to find their   place in the power structure in the microcosm of  society that is represented in that group norming   is when everybody finds their rhythm the group has  figured out you know how to function effectively   as a group once they get to that point it leads  to performing you know they know how to operate   effectively now so let's operate let's figure out  what to do and how to make this happen and then a   journeying which doesn't rhyme with the other ones  but couldn't find another word is when you start   concluding you start wrapping up you know this  is the next to last session or the last session   you're tying up everything that you learned and  translating it to practice to make sure that   people can generalize it in their life when they  when they're not in group anymore group curative   factors have been identified as the social  microcosm that allows for multiple transferences   when you're in a group you're going to have people  that remind you of authority figures that remind   you of friends you had that reminds you of your  parents maybe who knows people tend to behave once   they get into that norming stage people tend to  behave in group analogous to the way they behave   in the real world therefore observing them in  group you can start getting an idea about what may   be prompting the difficulties there have in having  an interpersonal interactions or things that may   be contributing to their unhappiness in their  life group also provides a lot of hope people   see each other recovering people see each other  getting better it provides a sense of universality   people understand they're not alone anymore you  know oh this person is grieving too this you know   we're all grieving in here about something or  we've all experienced some sort of trauma group   can bring out altruism in people typically a  well-functioning group the group members want   to help one another as somebody starts to break  down or cry you will see other group members go   over to try to console that person as people  celebrate successes the group gets happy for   them and it gets people out of their own head and  encourages them to participate interactively with   the group community and group also provides self  understanding and insight as people interact in   group it's possible and we're going to talk  about the therapists role in a minute it's   possible to help them see how their behaviors may  be contributing to their current situation and   they start understanding what they're doing what  happens when they do that and why they're doing   it and then they can make choices from that point  about what they want to do if they want to change   that behavior or not the therapists role and group  it's actually pretty active initially you want to   explain the phases in the group process help  people understand that initially you know I've   never met you before you've never met me before  that's okay even if met each other before I'm   not expecting you to start telling your deepest  darkest secrets on day one of the group day one   of the group is what's called forming and this  is when we get to know each other and over the   next couple of weeks we're going to go through  a couple more stages where we start figuring   out you know what we're comfortable doing and  explaining to people what the group process will   look like so they understand that the first couple  of sessions may not be as intense as they will get   down the road the therapist goal goal and role is  to create and maintain cohesion and participation   we need to start in that forming stage that first  day of group helping people identify similarities   between themselves and others in order to get  that sense of normative normalcy if you will I   don't like normal I don't like that word but so  they can understand that they're not alone they   can start drawing similarities between themselves  and other people and start seeing how they may   benefit and be able to help others in that group  which leads to culture building there's going to   be a time where you've got to talk about what's  the culture of this group the culture of this   group is to be accepting and validating and you  know you're gonna go through discussing what it's   like to create a safe environment the therapist  encourages people to focus on the here and now   and illuminates processes at work if you can see  two clients are exchanging hostile or unpleasant   nonverbals then that might be something to talk  about if you can see one client for example is   giving a lot of minimal encouragers and is just  really there and listening and being supportive   to somebody else who is telling an emotional  story you can bring that out and you can ask   the person who was talking you know how did it  make you feel when Sam was clearly giving you   support and encouragement to you know get this  story out therapists do need to use appropriate   self disclosure you don't want to be just a fly  on the wall or a referee in group you want the   group members to understand that you're human too  and be authentic if something is powerful to you   talk about it if something is frustrating to you  or if somebody's behavior is frustrating to you   then that might be appropriate to therapists  facilitate the resolution of interpersonal   conflict a lot of times people who are in  group do have some deficit or problems with   interpersonal skills they may not be comfortable  with conflict so they tend to submit to authority   figures likewise they may be overly aggressive and  it's important to help people figure out how to   effectively and assertively resolve interpersonal  conflict therapists use linking and blocking in   order to maintain this culture linking is where  you identify similarities among group members so   they can feel a sense of cohesion blocking just  like it sounds like is when you use verbal or   nonverbal behaviors in order to interrupt and  inappropriate behavior if somebody is being   aggressive you may have to tell them to stop  and if they don't stop you may have to use a   hand signal a gesture or worst-case-scenario  excuse them from the group blocking serves to   keep the group a safe place to be not to squelch  expression but to make sure everybody feels safe   the therapist needs to model giving and receiving  feedback using those I statements and also   accepting feedback at the end of group for example  asking everybody to go around the room and share   something that they got out of group had a group  benefit you tonight and something that they would   like to do differently or something else that  they would like to approach in future groups   the therapists can start eliciting feedback and  encouraging people to be assertive and identify   what they want in need the therapist needs to  use structured activities and in your scenarios   you may be presented with something that says  this group is in the forming stage what types   of activities would you use this group is in  the performing stage what types of activities   would you use obviously in forming you're going to  use more in the forming stage you're going to use   more icebreaker type activities get-to-know-you  activities psycho-educational stuff to get people   to start talking but not make them feel like  you're ripping the band-aid off an open wound   in the performing stage activities may include  role plays or art therapy or something that is   going to really help them work through their  issues therapists need to identify and discuss   group themes and patterns if there seems to be  a theme going through the group maybe you have   a lot of people who are experiencing anxiety  about upcoming holidays or something you can   identify that one of the things I do in group  when I start the group I have everybody give me   a recap of what their week was you know how to  have have things been going over the past week   and what was the most significant thing that  happened everybody shares that and then I try   to draw connections between what's going on and  identify sort of a you defying theme and that   guides group maybe it maybe it's an assertiveness  or lack of assertiveness that plagued the people   in in group over the past week so we may focus  on assertiveness skills and talking about you   know how it might feel to be assertive you're  also going to challenge harm harmful behaviors   and address interaction of group members outside  of the group as well that kind of sums up really   quickly group counseling and you probably had  an entire semester of group counseling there are a lot of what's the word I'm looking for  flashcard sets on Quizlet for MCM hce group   counseling review go to quiz or type in Quizlet  and that phrase and you will find some really   good review flashcards it may be more information  than you need to know or it might be a good review   that's kind of up to you let's move on to career  counseling career counseling doesn't take up as   much of the NCM HCE as you probably saw on the  NCE however like I said earlier you may have a   client who comes in they are a widow or who needs  to transition from being a homemaker to getting   a job and you know she has been at home raised  the kids etc all her life and now she needs to   get a job in order to support herself since her  significant other passed on what do you do you   have to fit know which assessment instruments  are going to be most useful we'll talk about   that a little bit more as we get through briefly  the models of career counseling trait and factor   models focus on individual abilities interests and  personalities and work adjustment in order to help   figure out what sort of situation what sort of  work environment is going to be most congruent   between the person's characteristics and their  demands for example I tend to be an extrovert I   tend to be it I'm going to use MBTI terminology  I tend to be extroverted intuitive feeling and   judging really strong on the judging I don't do  well with spontaneity at all I like structure I   of structure but I also really don't like  working by myself and being by myself all   the time I would not be happy in a lab by myself  all the time I am not detail-oriented I would not   be good in accounting there are things like  that that I know would be incongruent with   my characteristics and traits people tend to be  happier when they're in environments that are   more congruent sometimes they're not and they're  in a job or they've chosen a career that is not   totally congruent with who they are therapeutic  ly we can help them figure out possibly how to   modify their environment to be a little bit more  congruent but that's you know down the line the   client centered model emphasizes self-concept and  the existence of choices based on what the client   perceives is best in his or her life just like  client centered counseling the goal is to talk   with the client and help them explore the choices  that might be available to them to help them be   happier in their career or help them choose a  career that's going to make them happy and then   make those choices believing that people can make  the best choices for themselves if they're given   the support and the encouragement and enough  information the psychodynamic model stresses   internal motivations and coping mechanisms and the  person's belief or knowledge about what he or she   is able to do psychodynamic basically takes into  consideration people's belief system about their   capabilities when I was in high school and and  even college math wasn't not my strong suit so   my belief is that I am not good at math you know  that's just not my thing therefore my internal   motivations would probably be to avoid that  however I wanted to go to medical school so   my internal evasion was you know really strong to  go to medical school my sense of efficacy to pass   calculus and organic chemistry was very low so  there's a disparity there unfortunately when I was   going through grad school undergrad I did not have  effective coping skills to manage the distress and   get through the stuff that I wasn't so good at I  didn't have enough efficacy or belief in myself   to get through it therefore you know I ended up  changing my major to something that didn't require   as much math my internal motivation was always to  help people I wanted to be able to help people and   make people healthier and happier however I didn't  have the ethicist self-efficacy that I could   past the stem classes for medical school therefore  I arrived at a different conclusion developmental   model's focuses on career as a developmental  maturational process now the career maturity index   is one assessment instrument that's out there  to identify where somebody is in their career if   you're talking to somebody who is in high school  obviously they haven't started their career so   they're in the exploration stage and they're  learning and they're moving towards something   that's their phase of development as somebody  is in once somebody's taken a career then their   focus may be on promotion and advancement in that  career you want to take a look at where people are   at currently a lot of people tend to retire from  one job at a certain point and start a second   career so at the end of somebody's career they may  want to explore a new career it's important to you   know take into consideration your clients age  and ideas and what they want to do in the future   behavioral career counseling focuses on making  realistic career choices that's the behavior and   eliminating anxiety about making such choices  basically we want to educate people about you   know what they can do and effectively what their  what their skills what they're capable of and help   them look at the facts and make realistic choices  about what's going to work for them and what's   going to what their skills are going to allow them  to do the values model helps client choose choose   careers in line with their values and there  are four dimensions that it looks at the time   orientation some people are future oriented and  they're looking towards retirement and they want   to make as much money as possible right now so  they can retire in 50 years some people are past   focused they grew up in an unhealthy environment  and they want to help people so those people don't   have to so other people don't have to grow up  in an unhealthy environments there print some   people are present focused and they are focused  on what's right in front of them right now and accounting can be very good at this because it's  you know very tangible and what's in front of you   and then you've got people who are unconcerned  with schedules they are not tied to the future   to the past to the present they are just going  along and they're very flexible socially you   have people who are individualistically  oriented they are very concerned about   self promotion making sure they climb up that  corporate ladder and start earning more money   and a job is a means to an end for them and serve  to benefit them collateral or collectivist people explore careers in terms of how it will benefit  the greater good socially they want to make sure   that their career is going to fit with not only  what makes them happy you know money a power   prestige whatever but also fits with their other  other people in their life so they have enough   time to go to their kids soccer games and be home  every evening to see their spouse etc and then   hierarchical social orientation people prefer  to be in environments in which there is some   sort of hierarchy or paramilitary structure where  there's no confusion about who has responsibility   for what the activity value is another dimension  that is looked at and this really looks at active   versus passive responses does the person value  actively trying to change something they see a   problem they see something can always be improved  they're actively and proactively trying to make   changes or are they more passive and reactive  to what goes on they are fine handling stuff   they're not going to go out and look for it but  if something happens they are you know gonna deal   with whatever comes their way on any particular  day and then life values which can be assessed   with the life values inventory go figure some of  these are really obviously named which is really   awesome the life values inventory helps people  see what's important to them and you know is a   big house and a lot of money and a lot of power  important to them or is being home every night and   working 8:00 to 5:00 and having you know ability  to take vacations vacation days is that important   with what values are important to them and then  you wrap all that in a bow and figure out or   compare those values to the careers the person is  looking at and figure out which career would best and then we move over to career choice people  choose and and this kind of goes with trait and   factor theory people choose careers based in part  on their personality if you will and Holland has   a I believe it's an octagon that identifies all of  these characteristics but basically it the acronym   is Riya SEK the person who is more realistic  likes hands-on occupations like landscaping   and auto mechanic the investigative person likes  problem-solving they are going to be often your   lawyer and your police officer and your scientist  the artistic person go figure likes making things   of beauty and being artistic and contributing to  the Arts social personalities like helping others   they do what they do because they want to help  and encourage everybody in their section of the   world to be as happy as possible and to succeed  enterprising people these are leaders they're   the ones who want to be CEOs they're the ones who  want to be changers and power is important to them   they like to lead they like to command and your  conventional person is somebody who likes things   that are routine and systematic they're going to  be people who don't mind going to work and doing   the same thing actually they prefer it going  to work and doing the same thing every day day   in and day out because they know what to expect  and there's a lot of different jobs that can kind   of fall into this you know bank teller is pretty  routine accountant can be pretty routine factory   worker is often very routine encouraging people  to look at what their preferences are most people   are a combination of multiple preferences there's  one thing that dominates but there are subordinate   preferences for me social go figure is my dominant  personality trait enterprising and investigative   tend to fall underneath it so I have those three  dimensions more in common how do we figure it out   well let's talk about Holland first since we just  finished the rise sec model to identify people's   preferences based on Holland's career choice  theory you can do the vocational preference   inventory and it helps categorize people into the  Holland's the six types by having them rate 160   jobs based on I would love to do this or no that  sounds awful the self-directed search identifies   competencies attitudes and self-efficacy toward  occupations and again is based on Holland's six   types vocational exploration and insight is used  to increase occupations for consideration and help   people understand what they want out of careers  now all of those are kind of similar my guess is   you're not going to be asked to choose between  all three of those choose one be aware those   are Holland oriented tests so is my vocational  situation however my vocational situation is   appropriate for somebody who currently has  a career because they're going to be looking   at their vocation their current vocational  situation to identify what parts of that fit   with their identity and what barriers there are  in their current vocational situation that are   making the environment incongruent with their  preferences the Ashland interest assessment is   for people who have barriers to employment due to  disabilities that's the key factor here if you've   got somebody who has a disability and it's act  and it's acting as barrier the Ashland interest   assessment maybe the one you should choose the  career assessment in inventory focuses on careers   that require zero to two years of post-secondary  training you're not going to use this for somebody   who is a junior in college or for somebody who's  already graduated college you can use it for an   adult who never went to college who may want to  go back to get additional training you can use   it for high school students who may be considering  a two-year degree for a career making again making   sure you're choosing the assessments that are most  appropriate to your client the career attitudes   and strategies inventory assesses job satisfaction  work involvement career worries family commitments   and several other dimensions that will impact  their job choice we want to look at what people   expect from their career and again help them  figure out a career path or a career environment   that is best going to fit their attitudes and  strategies career beliefs inventory identifies   cognitive distortions about themselves themselves  in their career it has different sections that   help people identify how they feel about their  current career situation what they identify as   seeming necessary for happiness factors that  influence their decisions changes they're   willing to make and other dimensions that you  know I didn't put on here because that's not   what's most important what's most important is to  recognize that the career beliefs inventory again   is one of those tools that doesn't necessarily  help people choose a career based on their traits   but it helps them look at their beliefs about  what what's important to them and what work should   be liked in order to find an environment that's  conducive it doesn't focus as much on their actual   skills as the trait and factor Theory does and the  career interest inventory helps students decide   what courses to take and how to prepare for their  preferred career the career orientation inventory   assesses biology based careers I know I remember  seeing this one on when I took the NCM HCE and   it's one of those that's kind of thrown in there  to throw you off because it doesn't sound like   something that's specifically biology oriented  make a note mental note of that that the career   orientation inventory is only for people who want  to be in biology based careers from scientists to   physician and everything in between the guide for  occupational exploration explores interests in   twelve areas and correlates with the dictionary  of Occupational titles this is what we used way   back when when I did my master's in rehabilitation  counseling the vocational interest inventory and   the strong interest inventory both help people  identify careers based on their interests it   asks them guess what of these things which one  seemed most interesting to you what would you   like doing and then it helps narrow the different  careers down to careers that are in those areas   the differential aptitude test key word here is  aptitude helps identify job-related abilities   and aptitudes what are you good at there's what  do you like in the interest inventory and then   the aptitude test is what are you good at did you  do really well in high school math and biology or   did you do better in English the discover Career  Planning program is a comprehensive computer based   career guidance system offered on the internet  for grades 5 through adult as important grades   5 through adult so if you're dealing with a young  person especially somebody who is in maybe middle   school you're probably not going to be doing a  career planning assessment for somebody who's   five but somebody who's I guess that would be 11  in grade five it's probably gonna be more towards   middle school but this would be an appropriate  assessment to use with somebody who is 12 13   14 and up it includes inventories of interest  abilities and values plus detailed information   about occupations the discover Career Planning  program encompasses a lot of the different things   that we've already talked about not only does  it identify interests it also looks at their   abilities their aptitudes and their values the  system of interactive guidance information or   ciggy is designed to help university students and  adults make informed career decisions through self   assessments and in-depth current educational  and job information the discover and the ciggy   are newer tests so I don't know if they're gonna  make it on the NCM hce however they are really   commonly seen in vocational rehabilitation in  the real world right now I would suggest just   you know making a mental note of them and  being aware that they are out there I've   also given you a link to a web page that has  a litany of other tests to review if you just   want to be aware it's important to be aware of  the selection criteria for group counseling not   everybody is appropriate for group not everybody  is appropriate for every type of group some people   will be uncomfortable in a co-educational group  some people will be uncomfortable in a support   group it's important to know what your clients are  comfortable with and help them see the benefit of   group counseling and how group counseling can  help them in order to find the best person fit   for the groups that are available in preparing  for the NCM hce remember to review your series   of career counseling and no the most common  tests to use and on which clients those tests   are appropriate which test measure values which  Testament measure aptitudes which tests measure   interests which tests are appropriate for  middle school and high schoolers which tests   are appropriate for adults you see where we're  going here because you will probably be faced   with at least one question in your scenarios on  that type of testing so let's talk about some   scenarios this is you these are your helpful  hints if you will tom is a 34 year old white   male who completed two years of community college  and as him is married with three children he was   referred by his employer due to anger management  issues at work during the assessment you note that   tom is well oriented verbal but appears to have  a lot of anxiety especially related to finances   right now so the first question is group therapy  appropriate for him well he's male okay that's   fine whatever he completed two years of community  college so theoretically he is cognitively able to   participate he does have some anger management  issues you'd want to explore a little bit more   what that was about but you do notice that a lot  of his issues center around anxiety specifically   related to finances it's not generalized anxiety  disorder it's anxiety about money you know maybe   the three children are putting a strain on his  bank account prep therapy would probably not   be overly helpful for Tom at this point because  his issue is very narrow in focus and it's less   about anger management and more about helping him  reduce his anxiety so he is not always on edge   what other resources might be helpful financial  counseling career counseling career counseling   could definitely be helpful for Tom at this  point to help him see if there are other options   that might help him make more money those are the  things that I would look at individual counseling   can be helpful to examine cognitive distortions  related to what's going on and potentially help   him identify ways to manage his anxiety so he  is not constantly on edge and is less likely   to bite somebody's head off at work there are  more study resources here that you can look at   in terms of you know what you might do to help  Tom out Julie is a 20 year old student getting   her bachelor's degree in liberal arts she does not  yet know what she wants to do for a career she's   20 years old which means she's probably a junior  she's getting ready to graduate you know in 12 18   months which of the following assessments would  be appropriate the Ashland interest assessment   well that was for people who have barriers  to employment due to disabilities she has no   known disability so that wouldn't be appropriate  the career assessment inventory well that's for   people who want a career that requires zero to two  years of college we establish that Judy's Julie is   already a junior she's passed that mark and almost  finished with a four-year degree so probably gonna   have to get a masters or figure out something  that a bachelor's in liberal arts will help her   get the career attitudes and strategies inventory  assesses job satisfaction work involvement career   worries family commitments etc she doesn't have  a job yet so that's not gonna be helpful career   beliefs inventory identifies cognitive distortions  about themselves and their career no she doesn't   have a career yet so she needs to figure out  you know what she wants to do career interest   inventory well that might be helpful because it  explores interest to help her narrow her career   choices the guide for occupational exploration  might be helpful because it explores interests   in 12 areas and correlates with a dictionary of  Occupational titles the guide for occupational   exploration is actually online now and they have  a lot of online assessments just as a side note   the vocational interest inventory or the strong  interest inventory those might be helpful because   they help people identify careers based on their  interests and the differential aptitude test   remember the key word here is aptitude helps  people identify their job-related abilities   so that might be helpful you may choose one of the  interest inventories and one of the aptitude tests   that's up to you and you know obviously dependent  on what they give you in in the scenario but you   do need to make sure again you can see that there  are a lot of these that sound like they might fit   career assessment into inventory sure why not  no because that's not going to be appropriate   for her flashcards is the best way to memorize  those tests and who they're appropriate for I'm   sorry I know it's mundane but it is important  to be aware of who those tests are appropriate   for and yes in regular practice you would probably  go online and Google and figure out or search the   internet and figure out a test from that point  on or your organization would already have some   tests there but for the purposes of testing you  have to have them memorized at least long enough   to take the test okay everybody have a great day  and I will see you on the next episode thank you   for joining me today subscribe to the NCA MHC  II exam review podcast to be notified when new   episodes are released and while you're at it  subscribe to counselor toolbox podcast to stay   up-to-date on current trends and counseling  and earn your continuing education on the go