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Health Insights from Joe Rogan and Gary Brecka

joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan Experience train by day joe Rogan podcast by night all day all right we're up good to see you my friend wow that was fast good to see you too brother do it we just get right into it dude you're organized you're a rare guest i actually you know what i normally don't bring notes but I was talking to Cali Means on the way over here and you know we're we're really supporting Bobby Kennedy's whole Maha you know movement and and uh trying to officially put a committee together to to to really give him some great talking points and then bring some of the big influencers together to help him message you know around the media and I was like what are some of the wins that we've had in the last week that I don't know about and so he just rattled them off and I there's some wins jotted them down what are the wins well I mean um you know so Trump formed this uh Strong Kids Commission and and if you remember when he first got into office he actually um by executive order he authorized Bobby to um to do a study with you know Health and Human Services to to look into the genesis of chronic disease because nobody nobody's talking about it the National Institute of Health or National Library of Medicine or in our you know public health policy nobody's talking about what's causing this pain i wonder why they're not talking about it well I could give you a couple of I could give you a couple to do with it no way you're a conspiracy theorist dude you're down the rabbit hole that's my problem you think that just because people get paid they do things that are shady yeah I know that's a weird thing to think i should stop thinking that way yeah i mean for you know we make $110 billion a year on type two diabetes you They're trying to put that out of business for sure yeah they don't want that money no no no they're they're like "Hey Stan how do we get this off the balance sheet bro how do we how do we get rid of this is stinking up." There's a business that relies on people being so disgusting that they get type 2 diabetes so bad with their diet just eating pie and drinking soda till their body just starts to cave in yeah but don't worry we got But that's worth how much a year $110 billion type two diabetes a lot of money it's not like that would change anybody's opinions on things well I mean a lot of people could live on that there's a lot of people I know that could live that could live on that isn't that funny a lot of people could live on what's killing other people yeah isn't that funny like a lot of people are buying yachts on what is killing people yeah so the interesting thing is is you know look at you know our food stamp program which is you know the SNAP program it's one of the biggest um subsidies that we have in the government $120 billion a year 10 billion of that is going to subsidize sodas i mean you need soda it's it's important part of the fear food pyramid i think isn't it in there it's right up there with Lucky Charms right yeah lucky Charms is above right above ground beef yep and grass-fed steak and then you get to the top and you got and you got soda it It's so It's just It's phenomenal and then the American Heart Association just ironically comes out in favor of soda in the snack food program and we we went over that and we found out that they're um they're paid by Pepsi and by Coca-Cola wow it's just so dark it's so it's so crazy it is American Heart Association gets money from Coca-Cola and Pepsi yeah you know I I checked into my Airbnb here in Austin which uh which by the way love Austin man i see I see why you came here we covered it all on my podcast so I I won't go down that rabbit hole but it truly is man people are amazing uh food is amazing went to this little restaurant called The Well which I love and they catered all my food but there's like a serious wellness vibe here um but a lot of healthy people yeah a lot of healthy people so I check into the Airbnb and I I go into the closet like the owner's closet wasn't wasn't locked and I went into the owner's closet of course it's like all Cheerios and cookies and crackers and I I pulled a couple of bottles of these seed oils out and I did a little post about it because I was like "Look at all the heartalthy labels on this right?" And and we talked about seed oils last time but it's you know and I and I get attacked a lot for it for saying that these polyunsaturated fatty acids are bad for you but a lot of times it's it's actually not the the plant itself it's the distance from the plant to the table right you explained because you were explaining the other day to us the process that it takes to turn rape seed oil which is what canola canola oil joe if you They said rape seed was problematic so they changed it to canola oil i always thought it was corn oil but corn's good for you corn oil must be great for you oh we're using canola oil cool peanuts please explain though the process cuz it's so vile it's It's insane so um rape seed uh canola is you know a plant we essentially you put it in a commercial press and it will come out gummy and so to de gum it you use something called hexane and hexane if you go to National Institute of Health or National Library of Medicine you'll see that that is a known neurotoxin it's classified as a neurotoxin same as fluoride right which is actually florosyic acid we'll get to that later but uh so so we de gum it with hexane and then you take this deg rancid i mean there's no mechanism on Earth for temperatures to reach that much especially plants to encounter those kind of temperatures so now it denatures it turns rancid so now you um it's putrified and it smells so now you have to deodorize it so we deodorize it with sodium hydroxide so we degum it with a powerful neurotoxin we heat it to 45 degrees and turn it rancid and then we deodorize it with a very powerful carcinogen and then in some cases we bleach it and bottle it and put it on the shelf you you ever look at go to the grocery store and you you see the entire grocery aisle it's it's all these like wesson oils or vegetable oils but they're all exactly the same color like exactly they have that same beautiful clear hue that's how now nature you know no if you squeezed 10,000 watermelons into watermelon juice and put it all on the shelf they would vary a little bit they would vary a little bit um but there's no variance there and so this is chemically controlled process and they and it's you know again not it's not back to the polyunsaturated fatty acids per se it's these it's the pro-inflammatory process that they cause these foam cells and the the inflammation in our arterial wall which actually cause cholesterol to the site of inflammation and we blame cholesterol for a lot of the heart disease atherosclerosis arterial sclerosis because it's at the scene of the crime but it you know rarely pulls the trigger i mean it's cholesterol is kind of like a fireman right it it it gets called to the fire to put the fire out right and so the theory that if we had fewer firemen we'd have less fires it's kind of absurd right but that's theory that's the theory in LDL cholesterol it's like it might work in California they would I could see them passing that legislation you know what we need we need less firemen but but uh you know so the theory that if we push down the firemen which was called to the site of inflammation meaning we reduce the cholesterol which was called to the site of inflammation to cause the repair rather than ask what started the fire that notion is about to be I think uh blown out of the water by by big data i think you're going to see big data artificial intelligence and early detection in the next 5 years are just going to going to circumvent the entire system do you think there's a possibility of removing food oils from the market i don't think that we'll ever replace food oils excuse me seed oils i I don't think that will ever replace seed oils i think I think what's really interesting is is the chemical processing so another really good thing and I'm helping to author this this paper with uh with Kelly Beans and and a bunch of other folks uh to present it to Bobby Kennedy in in looking at the genesis of chronic disease because if you just and I know lots of people have talked about this on your show so I won't belabor the point but if you look at the spending of $4.5 trillion a year right on healthcare in the United States and then you say well what do we lead the world in well as of December 6th we are ranked 66th in the world in life expectancy um we lead the world in morbid obesity type two diabetes multiple chronic disease in the single biome meaning not just our population has multiple different chronic diseases but multiple chronic diseases in the same in the same body because most people don't just have one autoimmune disease or they're not just hypertensive and diabetic they're hypertensive diabetic and hypothyroid with an autoimmune usually multiple autoimmune we lead the world in infant mortality maternal mortality um and so you got to ask yourself how's $ four and a half trillion dollars a year in spending leading to these kinds of consequences and very often it's actually not the food it's the distance from the food to the table so it it's not necessarily the plant it's what we're doing to process these plants to get them on the table and so I think what you're going to see is these grass guidelines generally regarded as safe which is essentially how the FDA decides whether or not you can micropoen the population so we are allowed to micropoen the population right we're allowed to put certain amounts of pesticides herbicides insecticides uh preservatives um that is a great way of putting it too it's micro poisoning yeah um so that's really what's happening that's exactly what's happening and and and a lot of experts will say the dosage determines the poison and that's largely untrue when you talk about cumulative dose toxicity meaning if I give you this sandwich and you know this piece of tuna fish and it has a very small safe amount of lead or mercury it's probably not going to hurt you right but if you don't methylate that metal out of your body and you keep eating that same kind of fish I mean nobody got mercury poisoning from a single piece of tuna fish what they got mercury poisoning from was continuing to eat the same thing over and over and over and over again and they got a cumulative dose toxicity which is what a lot of foreign countries use so in other words I can't just say if I put you know one drop of arsenic in this glass is that is that going to kill you it might make you mildly sick cause an inflammatory process maybe it's not going to kill you but if you drink one of those five times a day seven days a week now you're toxic and that's what's happened to our country we didn't get here quickly we we we got here by slowly stacking these micropoins right but is it possible to change all of like whatever whatever we use seed oil for is it possible to swap that out for olive oil or beef tallow or I know there's some companies doing like Masa makes these great uh tortilla chips that are organic cornowed beef like it too like you feel like you're eating food yeah you know we talked about those Vanry chips too vandy Vandy chips i love those i do too it's just potatoes and beef tallow with a little salt and they're [ __ ] and it tastes like food like when I eat them I don't feel like a piece of [ __ ] like if I if I eat a bag of Doritos I feel like a [ __ ] loser you know even while I'm eating I'm like "Oh you loser shut up i'm shut up these are delicious." You shame yourself you're like "Chill I'm so disappointed in you." But isn't it possible to just replace those or would it require is it one of those things like there there's an issue with factory farming everybody thinks factory farming is disgusting when it comes to animals it's it's vile what they do to chickens and pigs but is it possible to give everyone cheeseburgers in food deserts without factory farming like have we have we gotten so far ahead of ourselves that we don't have sustainable regenerative agriculture as an option i don't think so at all so you think that all the foods all the salad dressings and all the French fries and all the things that are cooked in food oil we have enough beef tallow we have enough olive oil we have enough avocado oil that we could switch all those things out and everything would be great there is no question that we have the capacity to to produce these and we have the capacity to produce them now i mean a lot of these farms uh don't use the bones from these cattle they don't use the hide from these cattle they don't boil on the collagen from these cows and they certainly are not making the tallow from the fat from from the cattle that are being slaughtered so there's a lot of tallow that's going to waste a lot of tallow a lot of bone broth a lot of a lot of bones a lot of cartilage um you know that that's entirely going to waste and and if you look at a lot of countries they will use the entire animal they'll boil down the bones they'll they'll use the hide they'll use the bone marrow and it's kind of crazy because there's a big market for bone broth there's a big market for beef tallow like why wouldn't they i mean they're just wasting money i think I think you have the perception that there's a big market for because you're kind of in the no right you're probably in the I hate to use this term but woke 1% if you he went he went into He's like he called me woke that sounds It used to be cool when I When I mean woke 1% I mean I hate that word woke well it's the You're using it the correct way though you're using it the way African-Americans used to use it black people used to call woke like you're awake i'm woke you can't sneak that stupid [ __ ] by me i'm woke right you know and then the [ __ ] white people took it over and ruined it like a lot of things exactly did we Did we [ __ ] that up not us not us but uh the ones with blue hair yeah now now woke me is a whole different whole different body well now it's essentially a pjorative they can't even use it in a positive way you know it's that that's beaten down but I like it because it's kind of like you can just be triggered about anything now so it's so convenient yes you know cuz I can really silence you if you start out like out intellectualizing me i can I can just be like "Dude you're you're you're triggering me you're hurt you're hurting my feelings you trigger me with information." I kid you not i've never talked about this for I'm probably going to lose half my audience but no I I I was I went to Harvard University um for this thing uh this longevity summit through a very good friend of mine i won't mention his name because then I'll give away the event that I was at i called my wife on day two and I was like "Babe I feel like I landed on Mars." I go "I got to get out of here." And she goes "What is going on?" I said I just listened to a panel of PhDs for 4 hours debate about whether or not a microaggression is something that could happen to you that you don't recognize that was causing a micro trauma that the other person didn't realize they were doing but it was still creating an unsafe environment i think there should be mandatory jiu-jitsu classes for those people mandatory jiu-jitsu my head was so twisted when they your micro trauma yeah when they passed the microphone to me I got so much trouble and I won't say his last name but Daniel he's he's still mad at me right now because of this they passed the microphone to me they're like you know do you have anything to add to the conversation i go "This sounds like a bunch of people this whole this whole panel up here you guys sound like you boarded a spaceship and literally left mother earth because I have no idea what you're talking about you were talking about trying to identify something that you by its very nature say you don't know if you have it or you don't so let's just admit that it's a ghost so how are we going to we can't measure it we can't find it we can't prove you have it we can't prove you don't have it so how are we going to treat it what's this culture of victimization and the monetization it's like there's a there's status in victimization you know that's the thing they've they've essentially made it like a virtue to be a victim so you're looking for little things that have possibly I believe there was a microaggression i believe I I think you know what i think I felt it i possibly rolled his eyes i possibly rolled his eyes i mean that is going to haunt me i need therapy now i think he might have rolled his eyes and that's absolutely acceptable that is a microaggression like maybe rolling your like you say something to me and I go "Okay." And I leave oh my god that was a microaggression but what I just did going okay but here's the microaggression is you're kind of off the hook because if you didn't intentionally create the microaggression I just perceived it as depends on who I am if I'm a white heterosexual cis male then you're screwed i got problems then you're screwed so anyway back to the food supply we took a took a U-turn there for a second um what's really interesting is if you just take a very uh 30,000 foot view and you say let's let's just look at the broad strokes on the blue zone research right there's no continuity between diets in these blue zones so it's not keto paleo pescatarian vegan vegetarian um you know raw food atkins it's it's whole food just what you were just saying you know whole food and a lot of healthy lifestyle whole food well the two things that were non non-inchangeable were sense of purpose and community and activity until later in life so you didn't have any of the blue zones where people didn't feel a sense of purpose and community in life in fact there were no no such things as uh assisted care living facilities you know the assisted care in those countries as mom and dad move back in with kids until until the day that they right till the day that they die and there's a lot to be said for that because maybe grandma's only purpose is to go out and get um vegetables for dinner that night but she has a purpose and she's a part of the community and she's not locked up in a home with a bunch of people don't really care about her yeah you know we knew something in in the mortality space because I I used to study mortality um and mortality research and we knew that if you wanted to cut somebody's life expectancy in half at any age and I mean at any age you put them in isolation m so as soon as you create isolation you dramatically reduce if not half the life expectancy now later in life we would call this broken heart syndrome uh caregiver syndrome and these were actually very valid syndromes so if we actually were doing the the life expectancy on an elderly spouse who was still applying for insurance or we were looking at what's called a second to die claim on on on life insurance policy and one spouse had passed away we would dramatically reduce the life expectancy of the second spouse and the reason why that's important is I think that people don't realize that we are actually being isolated in plain sight right I mean we are trying to create connection through our phones we're trying create connection through social media and these are not human connections in fact you know if you look at the rates of depression suicide suicidal ideiation obesity um you know chronic mental illness and I think we actually have a chronic lack of mental fitness not necessarily a mental illness crisis in this country and if if you look at the skyrocketing rates of these conditions and how they are creeping into younger and younger and younger generations you got nine-year-olds being treated for depression now right um so what what's happening what's happening is isolation in plain sight you know we we don't problem solve anymore we don't have communities with our friends anymore we actually don't build social connections we've lost our connection to to mother nature you know that's why I like going out to my place in Colorado i was probably like "You like bow hunting?" It's just old school connection to mother nature and how freaking good do you feel yeah it's very very good i really wish I lived in nature i'd really like to be living in the woods again i'm working on it man well you said you're trying to get you know get something outside of town like I think that's kind of Yeah I think I think nature is a vitamin i really do i I think it's a mental health vitamin i think there's something about being in nature there's a feeling you get especially when your phone doesn't work when you get out there and you look at your phone like zero bars no yeah and you're out there in like real woods it's just like you just feel better you just feel like more tuned in you hear birds and branches snapping things going on coyotes and it's like god damn it feels good we had this place in Colorado um my wife and I which she's been going to for 35 years since she was a little little girl when when we got together 10 years ago she started bringing me and my family out there and her her father's got 10 acres her her uncles got 10 acres and then this 50 acre piece came on the market so we we we bought it and we're building these old school like really authentic log cabins on there and I I I write about this all the time because in Miami I have this really fancy place and I've got all this fancy equipment you know red light therapy beds hyperbarics hydrogen beds all that stuff but I'll go out to this Colorado home put on a 20 pound rucks sack i know you do 150 pound rucks sack so I feel like a complete Most of the time I do 45 okay this episode is brought to you by Visible now you know I tend to go down a lot of rabbit holes i want to know everything about everything and if you're like that you need wireless that can keep up visible is wireless that lets you live in the no it's the ultimate wireless hack you get unlimited data and hotspot so you're connected on the go plus Visible is powered by Verizon's 5G network meaning fast speeds and great coverage and with the new Visible Plus Pro plan you get premium wireless without the premium cost and the best part it's all digital no stores you can switch to Visible right from your phone it only takes about 15 minutes and then you manage your plan in the app ready for wireless that lets you live in the no make the switch at visible.com/roganogen plans start at $25 a month for the best features get the new Visible Plus Pro plan for $45 a month terms apply see visible.com for plan features and network management details sometimes I do it and I carry two 50 lb kettle bells oh [ __ ] no I really I'm not even telling the rest these are just short bursts this is not like long distance you know it's just I just do it to tax my system well I do farmers carries but I do that too yeah farmers carries i actually like that that's what I mean by that i I think farmers carries like suitcase carries are actually better you know one hand one hand oh one hand yeah because then it makes you balance on the other side and then you swap it out to the other side it's a stabilization thing i've heard from people that it's it's actually better actually that makes a lot of sense to me because uh you know you're not just you're not just loadbearing the spine which is why I don't squat but farmers carries are amazing too there's nothing wrong with it yeah and I do a lot of farmers carries but I'll put on this 20 pound rucks sack go out by myself put a sidearm you know in my in my you know vest and go it was just kind of funny i took a picture of myself in the woods the other day posted on social media and I had sidearm people went bananas uh cuz I have a gun yeah you don't want to get eaten by a mountain line it does happen it probably won't happen but guess what if I have a gun it's not going to happen i just feel Yeah it's never going to happen [ __ ] great video of a bow hunter who is being attacked by a mountain lion and the mountain line is like creeping up on him slowly he's like "Hey get back get back get back." And you see the thing lock on him and start closing in it's like 15 ft away and then bang and then you see the thing twitching it's got a hole in its face he was a boat but he had a pistol on him that's why he had a pistol on him yeah it happens in Colorado i mean bear attacks i mean it [ __ ] happens bear attacks are fairly rare in Colorado you know it's only when you cross the Apparently if you just come upon the cubs and the and the mother the real issue is not the bears that are in Colorado though the real issue is the bears in Wyoming and Montana the brown bears brown bears are what you have to worry about black bears not as much but but occasionally like a big black bear will will go after people yeah but anyway I take a sidearm and I and I'll march around in there but but when I'm done I feel like I took a limitless pill mhm just something i totally agree with you something out there and I got this little squirrel it's so funny i mean I I leave my house and start climbing up in the woods i have this little four mile kind of track and there's a squirrel i don't know if it'll be there this year but every year that I go out there and he and he barks at me right and he kind of growls it doesn't sound like a squirrel sounds like a little bark and then he chews acorns off and grabs them with both hands and throws them down on me and it's so funny and he'll follow me from limb to limb i [ __ ] you not and I look forward to seeing him every day like I I feel like he's pissed off maybe it's a sign of love i don't know we have It's definitely pissed off he doesn't love you yeah somebody probably hunted one of his family we'll take a sidearm people do hunt squirrels you know they eat them but but in any case man I feel I feel amazing so um but you know you're right that you know at some point we have the capacity to replace these um these oils we actually have a way to get you know back away from industrial farming and get back to local farming you know there's a I have a very good friend named Alfie Oaks and he owns one of the one of the more profitable grocery stores in America it's in it's in Naples Florida called uh Seed to Table and he took me out by helicopter one time and we hopped around to a bunch of his organic fields he's got thousands of acres in the middle of the state of Florida and he showed me how he's not only able to grow produce um for less money than he would organically for less money than he would grow it if he had to use herbicides and and pesticides and and chemicals he's able to pick it at 9:00 in the morning and have it on the grocery store shelf by 2:00 in the afternoon and I watched the whole process go down thousands and thousands of these acres and you know white flies are the the pest flies they're trying to avoid instead of spraying for these white flies what they do is they just use this reflective cellophane they run it down the rose crops and it creates this reflection and it scatters them to the woods and so now the white flies are not eating the crops there's no herbicide there's no pesticide sprayed on these there's no no preservatives his his team picks this stuff by nine o'clock in the morning it goes into a processing center and by processing I mean it gets washed that's it and then it's on a truck and it's on the shelf by two o'clock in the afternoon so you can grab a strawberry in this grocery store and eat it and it was growing at 9:00 am that morning and there are you know there are mechanisms for us to do that yes I get some some stuff needs to be shipped and and and stored um but most regenerative farming practices are not only green and good for the environment they're economically feasible they actually make economic sense and you know when he talks about the fact that we've been spraying some of these fields for so many decades with or so many years with these uh herbicides and insecticides that there is not a pest for in some cases hundreds of miles but we are still spraying for those pests he's like you got to start to question what the motivation is yeah probably financial and probably financial yeah and you know it's what we're talking about you said something earlier interesting that you think it's not what was the term that you used it's not a mental health problem it's a lack of mental strength mental fitness mental fitness yeah yeah i mean if you think about it you got any of those hydrogens yeah yeah you want baby come on is there H2 i love these i'm addicted i love these too yeah um explain to people what these are instead of So hydrogen gas i mean this is probably my favorite biohack in the world because it'll cost you about a dollar a day um these are called H2Tab um you can get them at drink h2tab.com you can actually read the science on it i think there's two two people in the world now i mean those that have read the science and take hydrogen gas drink hydrogen water and those that don't um or or just haven't read the science because hydrogen gas first of all is a it's it's the lightest element in the universe it's also the most prevalent element in the universe 10% of your body weight is hydrogen I think in fact if you took hydrogen oxygen carbon and nitrogen that's 96% of your mass okay those four uh elements so hydrogen's about 10% of your body weight and and hydrogen is not just an antioxidant it's a selective antioxidant right so if you look at oxidative stressors like nitric oxide or super oxide or hydrogen peroxide okay so all of these these these oxidative stressors they can be good in certain amounts you need a certain amount of nitric oxide right in your body but but too much nitric oxide is bad too much hydrogen peroxide bad too much super oxide is bad so if you were to take an antioxidant like vitamin C um and take very very high doses of antioxidants this can be very bad for you because you're suppressing too much oxidation in the body you're actually suppressing these oxidative stressors too much hydrogen on the other hand uses the body's homeostatic process to suppress inflammation so in other words it it it works through something called the NRF2 pathway it it it affects a protein called NRF2 which moves into the DNA binds to the DNA and then the DNA spits out the instructions for catalase superoxide dismutase and glutathione so in other words you're actually using the body's regulatory system to actually control inflammation instead of externally trying to control inflammation and then and the second thing it does is it it targets the only oxidative free radical that I think all of the science points to as as uh which is hydroxal radical uh having no use in the body so it selectively targets that and regulates the rest of the inflammatory process by using the body's homeostasis so in I guess a very long- winded way of saying that hydrogen gas can go anywhere in the body it reduces inflammation improves circulation improves memory there's really interesting study published on um uh the journal of uh experimental gerontology and it was published in November of 2021 um and most you know these clinical research studies they'll look at younger populations like healthier younger populations but this actually looked at a six-month study on hydrogen water versus non-hydrogen water in 70-year-old and older folks and they use something called TET 2 to measure in uh methylation they measured cognitive function sleep scores sitst stand ratios how well they're able to sit and stand telomere lengths in their chromosomes and and the really fascinating thing about this study is it done during COVID so these seniors were basically imprisoned right so they were not mobile um and the only difference between the groups that they that they controlled for was the presence of hydrogen water at the end of the six-month period during the lockdown the non the control group had lost 11% in their telomeres the non-control group had gained 4% they had better short-term recall better cognitive scores um uh better circulation improvement in cardiac markers improvement inflammatory markers like C reactive protein i think it's I think it's the greatest biohack on earth and that and like some sea salt and some amino acids like a perfect amino i mean just covering your bases i think those are those are your foundational basics for for optim and it's like delicious comes good flavors and it's easy to drink it's like a painfree thing that you can do you can bathe in it too you can actually bathe in hydrogen gas how many tabs you put in the water you can you can actually put what's called a hydrogen bomb which is looks like a big bath bomb it just creates hydrogen gas it's elemental magnesium what does it do for you when you bathe in it it goes right transermal goes right through the skin so remember hydrogen is is the smallest lightest element that we know of right so it go it will go right transermal and these um hydrogen gas will form in between water molecules so a water molecule is H2O but hydrogen gas can actually exist outside of the water molecule and when you put excess hydrogen gas into the water it will go right transder dermal and you know I have two of these bass at my house i never talk about it like on social media so I guess I'm about to talk about it now but um I have literally put people into these tubs i'm I'm kidding you not crippled with arthritis and they will skip out of my unit like they won the lottery it's incredible i mean so transder dermal reduction of inflammation in joints from these hydrogen bombs mhm how long does it last or from a hydrogen bath you can get these You can get these machines i mean one for your house is about 7,500 bucks 8,000 bucks um they make some that make nano particles or nano bubbles which are about 1500th the diameter of a human pore so if you run these things on your face it'll actually push all the sebum out of your skin it'll get rid of dandruff psoriasis eczema um if you have any kind of inflammatory condition like knees hip shoulder rotator cuff arthritis low back um bathing in hydrogen gas can be one of the most therapeutic things that you do really can you add it to a cold plunge you can add it to a cold plunge and what's interesting about adding it to a coal in fact I use this cold life coal plunge and I've got these guys um trying to see if we can incorporate the hydrogen gas into the coal plunge so where the where the motor pulls the cold water out it's going to send it into a hydrogen generator and then push it back into the tub because as the temperature drops in water you can saturate more gas so so a 48 degree quote me exactly on this but a 48 degree cold plunge will hold about twice as much gas as 102°ree you know warm tub so if you were like taking like a warm bath right so you're going to be cold plunging for 3 to six minutes every day or you know that's what you and I do you might as well be in there with hydrogen gas and so I'm I'm I'm working with these guys from Cold Life to see if we can plum these um hydrogen generators and basically it's it creates the hydrogen gas by by taking um distilled water and breaking distilled water apart and then throwing the gas into the water and it is noticeably different when you bathe in this gas or not like I had Sean Ryan over to my house um for a podcast one time and you know he's all banged up from being a Navy Seal and you he's got nips and bibbles all over his body and he just thought it was really weird because I was like dude you got to get my bathtub this episode is brought to you by Me Undies some things are complicated the human mind relationships life but what's not complicated is looking and feeling good with MeUndies underwear if you're a longtime listener you probably heard me talk about MeUndies before i swear by them i wear their stuff all the time and I can't recommend them enough seriously their underwear feels good while giving me the support that I need and I can't mention 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And I was like I go "No it's okay i'm not gonna get in there with you right i'll sit on the chair outside the tub." He's like "That freaks me out a little bit i'm going to be honest with you." I said "Dude," I gave him a pair of shorts so uh cuz I was like "Do you does anything on your body hurt did you you know your knees your hips your shoulders does anything hurt?" And he's like "Dude [ __ ] everything in my body hurts." So I was like "Get in there man." And um I put him in there for 25 minutes he said it was like the first time he had slept eight hours and woken up without pain in probably 15 years wow yeah jon Jones same thing you know I mean Jon Jones has been very public about uh when I you know working with me i haven't I I haven't uh talked to him in a little while but right before his last fight um I brought him one of these hydrogen machines to bathe in uh and we just set up the the the tub at his house and we ran hydrogen gas into the tub so we would do red light therapy um he would drink hydrogen water and um and he would bathe in this uh hydrogen gas and it was about 15 or 20 days after I kind of parachuted into his camp and and uh and set all this up that he texted me he was like "Holy [ __ ] brother i can't believe I'm you know I'm out of pain i'm adding a six day to my training routine wow i'm waking up not in pain you know I'm sleeping better." Um so it's it's really incredible what hydrogen gas can do in the body and don't don't take my word for it i mean there's there there actually is a really interesting study published by Dr learon Tyler Learon he's a PhD uh and he actually I think his PhD is in molecular hydrogen so I should tease him about where his life went wrong that he got a PhD in hydrogen but where did you bang a left that you decided I'm going to get a PhD in hydrogen but he published a study looking at um uh electrolyed alkaline water um and and when they removed the hydrogen gas all of the benefits of of alkaline water went away so the benefits from alkaline water are coming from the excess presence of hydrogen gas and um even when you add hydrogen gas to regular water it will drop the OP it will make the oxidative reduction potential negative so it you know has more of a capacity to donate uh electrons so I just think it's a a phenomenal discovery and it's dirt it's dirt cheap when you were telling me that these bottles water bottles that generate hydrogen they're great in the beginning but that over time they deteriorate does this with the same issue happen with the hydrogen generators that you would use for the cold plunges um you know they're a lot more robust they're a commercial generator so they're they're not actually working under pressure so the water flows through these so a lot of the ways that you um create high part per million hydrogen gas in in these um water bottles and and I I actually just won I'm about to to to uh put a press release out about it i actually just won a $16 million civil judgment against a a a fake hydrogen water bottle company that used my name image and likeness to run a bunch of ads and sold tens of millions of dollars in these bottles um but essentially at the bottom of these bottles there's something called a proton exchange membrane and this proton exchange membrane comes in contact through with the with the water through through electrolysis and it creates the hydrogen gas the problem with these bottles is that this electrolysis process if you put tap water in there and use chlorine can actually create chlorine gas um you can also create something called hypocchloric acid um so what happens is over time the bottles that I tested because I used to be a huge fan of these bottles um and I carried them everywhere and I would notice that that it didn't bubble as much you know four or five months after I I you know had this had the bottle and so I sent it to a uh be tested and lo and behold um you know these proton exchange membranes break down over time so the first time you use the bottle you're getting very high part per million hydrogen four or five months later you're getting almost none maybe six months later you might be getting zero could you just swap out the membrane and continue to use the same bottle or would you have a new bottle they don't they don't send you a new proton exchange membrane now some of them you can screw off the bottom and they theoretically could send it to you but but they're expensive they're like 250 300 bucks i mean an an H2 tablet like a hydrogen tablet will cost you a buck a day right gives you more and it gives you a higher part per million than almost all those bottles and it's consistent it's high it's highdosese hydrogen gas that's exactly consistent so every single time I put one of those tablets in the water it's just it's a consistent dose of hydrogen gas and I used to get a lot of [ __ ] online because I was promoting these bottles so heavily because I believed in them um tremendously but you know the average person's like out of pocket 250 300 bucks right so this is a lot more financially cost effective so with the cold plunge thing you're saying so because it's a commercial unit it would work differently and it'd be more robust well it's not using pressure okay right it's so it's it's circulating through this machine and it's creating you know using electrolysis and creating the hydrogen gas going back into the tub because you don't need you're not trying to drink a therapeutic dose you're trying to bathe in a dose you don't need as high part per million so you don't need the pressure but the really cool thing is because if you do it in a cold plunge um and when I pull this off I'll send you one uh if you do it in a cold plunge because you know as the temperature drops the more you you can do dissolve more gas in that volume of liquid so ideally you would have the hydrogen generator outside of your coal plunge let your coal plunge run and fill with hydrogen gas and then you you're getting in there for the anti-inflammatory response anyway a lot of times plus the brown fat activation and cold shock protein release and all peripheral vasoc constriction all of that but you would now be exposing yourself to um very high doses of of hydrogen gas you'd feel amazing getting out of there when I when I bathe in that hydrogen gas so my wife Sage um had a really bad car accident right right before we met 10 years ago and she um severely uh damaged her spine her her L5S1 and ended up having to have a spinal fusion and so her L5S1 is is fused and even though she's thin she's fit she she uh gets a lot of low back pain and when her back pain flares up there's no chance she's sleeping but when we put her into that hydrogen nano bath I mean 25 minutes in there she sleeps like a little baby and it's very calming too it's that shifting you from that sympathetic state that kind of fight or flight to that parasympathetic state of rest and digest you can feel that the effects of that hydrogen gas when it goes transermal and starts to relax you you know feels feels good well it seems like the more effective way is to do it in a warm tub though because you can stay in there for longer so you'd get more exposure so you get you would get less hydrogen but more exposure than the threeminute coal plunge yeah i mean I I I this is where you know I I I'd like to see some data which I don't have so I do know that if you if the water is colder you're going to you're going to dissolve more gas because you're so you're going to have a higher part per million in cold water than you are in warm water but then you got to look at what's happening in warm water you're probably having your pores are dilated you've got a little vaso dilation you probably have better surface circulation in your skin so you might be actually carrying more of the hydrogen through the skin i don't know um versus when you're in a cold plunge you're going to have that peripheral vasoc constriction you're still going to get hydrogen through the skin because it's a higher it's a higher dose um but I don't have any clinical data to say that one is better than the other have you done the cold plunge hydrogen oh yeah 100% i mean I You did it with a bath bomb i did it I didn't do it with a bath bomb i did it with a the one in my uh house that actually have three of these machines um I did it with the one in my house that recirculates it you throw a hose over one side and and it sucks the water out of your coal plunge and then you uh throw a hose over the other side and it puts the hydrogen gas back in how long does the process take to hydrogen i let it I let it run for like 15 or 20 minutes cuz I wanted it to be really saturated and the water looks kind of milky in fact I did it um I had Laura Trump over for uh we we shot this Fox News uh uh event on or for her show for her Laura Trump show and and I did it for us to do this coal plunge shoot um I added the hydrogen gas to the to the coal plunges before we got in there felt amazing getting out of there now I'm trying to actually plum it right into the coal plunge so it's just in line so it just runs either all the time or I can turn a valve and turn the hydrogen gas on and have the gas go into the go into the coal plunge so that's the next thing but right now for people you can just go get these hydrogen bath bombs you can get these hydrogen bath bombs where where would you get one of those um drink H2 tab drink h2tab.com okay all right yeah if you go there you can get the bath bomb i mean try it i mean just throw one of those bath bombs in there and and feel how much different your body feels when you're bathing in hydrogen gas it's it's incredible um I I I really feel like it is one of the best hacks that so few people are using i mean so many people are on anti-inflammatories so many people are suffering from inflammation not just neural inflammation in the brain um but non-specific markers of inflammation like C reactive protein homocyine that are causing all kinds of havoc I mean you think about the fact that about 70% of our circulation is is not done by our heart right our heart circulates about 30% of the blood in our body but the other 70% of the circulation is is a is an activity called vasom motor or vasomotion right think of a snake swallowing a a mouse And we don't really cater to this part of our circulatory system even explain what you're saying a snake swallowing a mouse so so so think of a snake so so if the heart doesn't circulate roughly 70% of the blood in our body um how is that circulation occurring because obviously blood is still moving you have about 63,000 miles of blood vessel in your body um and so there is that your heart is not strong enough in a single contraction your left ventricle your heart that's ejecting that blood is not strong enough to push the blood through 63,000 mi of vessel and so how does the majority of this circulation occur well the majority of our circulation is microvascular right so the microvascular circulation does not move blood by pressure it moves blood by something called vasom motion or vasa motor and the best way I can describe vasom motion or vasa motor is to think of a snake swallowing a mouse the reason why I say that is because there's no pressure coming in the the front of the snake right it's not it's not being pushed down the snake's throat it's being muscularly moved down the snake's throat so it's a wavelike motion right it's a it's this um uh wavelike motion called vasom motor or or vasom motion and vascular laxity how the laxity that's in your vessels matters your blood viscosity matters and inflammation matters this is why when you look at the percentage of high blood pressure diagnoses for example if you were to just Google what percentage of hypertension primary hypertension essential hypertension um or you know uh uh high blood pressure is idiopathic right of unknown origin you'd see that 85% of all high blood pressure hypertensive diagnosis are idiopathic we don't know the origin and so we examine these people's heart EKG EEG um heart sounds lung sounds maybe a die contrast study maybe a CT angiogram maybe a you know some other kind of diagnostic heart imaging we can't find anything wrong with the heart and we medicate the heart anyway generally for a crime it's not committing when there's an 85% chance it's actually something other than the heart and we never look to the microvascular circulation we never look to the 70% of our circulation that's actually not done by our heart what are we doing to cater to that 70% of our circulation well um things like resveratrol uh hydrogen gas um lowering our homocyine which is for most people is very simple to do i use an amino acid called trimethylcine um uh to to help people metabolize homoyine because there's microvasculare is very susceptible to high levels of homoyine and there's so many people that have um ailments that are consequences of poor circulation and we're treating something completely different so for example um poor focus and concentration um um um lots of autoimmune conditions if you look at the circulation in the brain liver lungs pancreas kidneys you'll see that the majority of this circulation is microvascular you know I I've talked about why why you and I both had a positive experience for example with red light um what is red light doing to our eyes is it fixing the rods the macula the cones the retina was there something damaged that red light fixed no it just restored healthy vasa motor activity to the back of your eye which is why I never wear protection in a in a red light bed now am I saying red light bed is going to cure your eyesight no get so beat up for that but red light therapy is extraordinarily good for vasa motor circulation why why do you think it improves your skin the collagen the elastin the fibbrin why do you think it reduces fine lines and wrinkles why does it improve um why can it improve uh our eyesight because it restores healthy vasa motor activity and there's so much vicrovasculare in our body that we don't really cater to this entire segment of our circulatory system think about how small a a capillary an artery has to be to carry a fluid to the edge of the lung exchange a gas with the inside of the lung pull that gas into the fluid and not bleed into the lung so just think about how how tiny that tube has to be and how many of those you have to have because don't forget right outside of your lungs you got fluid those alvoli are grabbing are grabbing gas and throwing that into a fluid well at some point that pipe has to meet a piece of tissue how is it not bleeding into that tissue it is that small it's microvascular um this is also where hydrogen gas comes into play so um I don't know where I was going with that point but I just find it fascinating that we've got so many things that we can do to cater to a lot of these ailments that people chalk up to a consequence of aging and they could be as simple um as catering to that portion of your your circulatory system it would be so fascinating to run a study a long-term study on twins identical twins and have one person just eat the standard American diet and the other person follow all these protocols hydrogen gas fitness healthy food no seed oil no drinking and just see what do they look like after 20 years yeah or 20 years 20 years would be wild wild be like sending one of them to space you know and and and it's so funny because you know we're so wrapped around our medical system that's really 50 60 years old 70 years old and how important a randomized clinical trial is and placeboc controlled randomized clinical trial that's been peer-reviewed and and all of this but we negate the eastern philosophies that very often have been around for thousands of years and I almost have more lend more validity to something that's actually stood the test of time like something that doesn't work is not going to last a thousand years um you know by virtue of the fact that it doesn't work when we were when we were in the mortality space we never used randomized clinical trials we used big data and I think what you're about to see now that I was alluding to before is we've built an entire system on you know the the most rigorous scientific study being the randomized clinical you know placebo controlled randomized clinical trial and so that is the gold standard and if it hasn't been through this process it is not valid well we've never done randomized clinical trials on on parachutes i wouldn't jump out of an airplane without one who wants Who who wants to be in that uh who wants to be in the control group okay Stan you line up here um you're getting the knapsack and a prayer book and we're getting a parachute that's a very good point it's a very good point for there's some things you really can't run randomized control studies on yeah i mean sometimes we just have data right we have really good data and and and one of the things I used to get just absolutely slaughtered for was I spoke out about the the simple LDL hypothesis of cholesterol saying that there is no correlation between elevated levels of LDL cholesterol on its own and cardiovascular disease you had to have corresponding increases in triglyceride you had to have inflammatory factors you usually had to have other metabolic factors like um hyper triglyceridemia hyperinsulinemia and um um and and yet everybody you know would really come after me for that and now we're starting to see that the data on statins is really falling apart you know I mean big data is starting to tell us that the the extension of life is is near zero um but the extension of all-c cause mortality is near zero and then the complications downstream which we never study i mean you'll never find a randomized clinical trial looking at more than one pharmaceutical compound in the same biome yet almost everybody at the age of 60 is on five or more prescriptions but we don't study prescriptions in uh in concert with one another we study them independently we say okay if you have high cholesterol you're on a statin okay that's independent if you have um you know your hemoglobin A1C is over 6.4 you're now insulin dependent okay so now you're on insulin and you've been a little sad lately so now you're on a SSRI um and your thyroid h is uh hypoofunction so now you're also on a synthroid or levothyroxine or arma thyroid um and you know your blood's gotten a little thick because you're on hormone therapy so now you are on a blood thinner we've never studied the compounding effect of all of these different pharmaceuticals in the same biome we just assume that the randomized clinical trial in these independent silos is valid even though we're going to smack all of these things together and one of the things that we learned in the mortality space was um the more pharmaceuticals you were on the easier it was for us to predict your life expectancy it was extraordinarily accurate for example if somebody started a corticosteroid which is very common for rheumatoid arthritis and um you know other forms of joint pain and whatnot if you started a cortosteroid you had by our data 6 years and one day until you were getting a joint replacement jesus six years and one day so that's the average that was the average so let's say for example that So why is that because initially corticosteroids are anti-inflammatory but then they eat the joint like a termite oh good um and you know we knew this in professional sports and a lot of careers were ended early from cortisone injections um you know a lot of athletes had their careers actually end early because they got too many too many cortisone injections how many is too many um you know it sort of depends on the joint and the and the location but one of them can be beneficial one of them can be very beneficial for in the acute phase of of pain or injury they can be very beneficial but what they used to do is because these were repetitive use injuries and um you know very often they would just dose the athlete up before a game so I mean Joe Thyman I mean not Joe Thyman um um Joe Montana uh you know he's one of those careers that ended early very likely because of cortisone injections and you keep injecting the same ligamentous tissue with cortisone eventually you will weaken that tissue and it will snap you know first it has an anti-inflammatory um reaction but then it starts to break down the cartilage like like a termite in fact it was so accurate that very often what would happen is people would get misdiagnosed with conditions like rheumatoid because they had the same symptomology as rheumatoid but what they actually had was a long-term clinical deficiency in vitamin D3 and and you would see that they would have singledigit vitamin D3 for decades and then all of a sudden they would start to present with symptoms that mimicked rheumatoid they would say "Hey doc you know my souls of my feet and ankles are sore when I got out of bed in the morning uh to go take my first pee my uh I feel like I had a workout the night before when I haven't you know my low back hurts and my my my knees and hips and shoulders are stiff now it's spread to my upper back and lately it's kind of hard to make a really tight fist." Well if you give those symptoms to the wrong primary care doctor um maybe without doing any any confirming diagnosis without said rates without RA factors they go you know what Joe you've got rheumatoid arthritis but don't worry I'm going to put you on something called a corticosteroid you're going to take this pill every morning you're going to be fine methraxate whatever it is and initially you feel great because it kills the inflammation but then it starts to erode the cartilagynous surface so if you think about the fact that you had a nutrient deficiency that you're now being treated with a pharmaceutical and 6 years and one day later now by the way the methtoate for example will give you a gene mutation it will mimic a gene mutation called MTHFR oh that one that one the [ __ ] gene [ __ ] gene yeah the [ __ ] gene so even if you don't have MTHFR um let's try one of those yeah I might as well try it um even if you don't have MTHFR if you take methtoresate you inhibit your your folate metabolism cheers bro hydrogen gas nail coffee i actually saw you sniffing something on one of your podcast what was that i don't want I don't want to do it by the way you can do it chuck one no no no no i the wrong time give me a freshy i'm not doing it here we go i just see all this [ __ ] over here oh this is a fresh one so this one hasn't been opened yet what is that this is uh Do you know who Ju Guu Mufu is crazy Juju Mufu yeah super Well he's an influencer but he's like very impressive athlete like super jacked dude if you got a name like fit guy you got to be able to beat ass incredibly flexible this is the guy oh yeah i've seen a freak like a real freak i mean for sure he's not natural there's not a [ __ ] chance in hell but I don't care but but uh he makes this stuff uh we have no affiliation with him we buy it it's not We're not sponsored so people oh you're making money off that bro no money no no I'm not making Dude I'm scared dude i saw Theo Vaughn almost almost like Brian Simpson took his headphones off and ran out of the room no dude i'm not getting anywhere near that no this is a good one i'm going to I'm going to I'm going to sniff it with the top on if the bag Oh and it's Give me the bag i'll do the bag just take a sniff of the bag this is so wrong it is wrong i feel so dirty oh my god dude that's nothing that's nothing that's just the bag that the smelling salts have been sitting in oh my god so what powerliffters do is they take a sniff of this [ __ ] right before they lift weights you ready here we go no there's zero chance [Music] oh lordy dude there is zero chance get on in get on in bro come on reach for it pe pressure take a Get it about 6 inches from the nose take a haul it's good for you i can't guarantee it's good for you no no no that was nothing oh you're such a baby come on you're a biohacker you're a real man get in there take a sniff yeah I'm a real man i don't do this [ __ ] get in there bro get in there one two three go sniff yeah that's what I'm talking about oh god that's what I'm talking about let's go and that was a a freshy the fresh ones are the really hard ones we have these in the green room at the comedy club people get addicted they're all They all take sniff my left eye yeah it'll come back better come back stronger i have no data to support that by the way now I'm going to go down the rabbit hole of that you're going to want another five minutes about five minutes you're going to say "Give me round two." Oh where were we dude we were actually something important mthfr I think um I did want to ask you about cholesterol before I forget um where did the uh narrative come from that there's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol and that HDL is good LDL is bad you want to lower your LDL and you want to take a statin where did all this so um so you know highdensity liver protein and lowdensity liver protein um you know the HDL the high density lipoproteins generally considered the good um cholesterol and the LDL the low density or VLDL very low density lipoprotein are considered the bad cholesterol because they're softer right um but what what we know now is that the size of the cholesterol molecule matters a lot in other words these the smaller the particulate size of cholesterol the easier it is to cross into the arterial wall gets eaten eaten by macroofage and it forms something called a foam cell which is essentially this this foam cell process of oxidized cholesterol is what is the genesis of narrowing of the arteries right um but again we have to remember that cholesterol is called to the site of inflammation so if you had two people one with cholesterol of 100 and LDL cholesterol and another one with cholesterol 129 um does a person with 129 have a higher incidence of cardiovascular disease no um does a does the person of 129 have a greater risk of um a cardiovascular event no just because they have elevated LDL cholesterol now if you start to look at other markers like C reactive protein which is a great marker for cardiovascular risk if you look at um triglyceride cholesterol ratio because remember fat triglyceride is largely transported around the body on on the on the surface of cholesterol so if if cholesterol was a tennis ball the fuzzy yellow surface would be a fat triglyceride and if you remember from high school geometry as the size of a sphere gets smaller its surface area to volume ratio goes up so what that means is if I had two basketball dude I can still that thing is I got to I got to seal this thing dude it's like I'm going to go blind in my left eye i'm trying to be smart and I can't see out of my left eye um dude what is it it's a good question ammonia ammonia what is salt ah it's no joke man i remember I remember my my clinic when Dr sarda used to tape these things to the wall because she would do she would do these shoulder injections on people and they would get woozy and she would just crack one of those smelling and they used to use them for boxers when they got knocked out when they got rocked and they get into the corner they'd give them smelling sauce and wake right up wow not really but so let's say you had two basketballs of cholesterol this is an oversimplified version for the audience but you have two basketballs of cholesterol and they and they're covered in fat okay okay a triglyceride and let's say I add more triglyceride to the bloodstream right which which happens when you eat high sugar high glycemic carbohydrate why because part of insulin's role is is to block forms of energy metabolism that would allow you to uh burn fat um or at least slow those pathways down so essentially you have two two basketballs of cholesterol and now I want to add more fat to the table those two basketballs become four softballs if I add more triglyceride to the table they become eight baseballs if I add more triglyceride they become 16 golf balls and if I continue to raise triglyceride they'll become 32 little BB's so the point is the amount of cholesterol stayed stable the amount of triglyceride went up as the amount of triglyceride went up the size of the cholesterol molecule got smaller so the two basketballs and the 32 BBs are the same volume of cholesterol same nanogram per deciliter of cholesterol just vastly different sizes those 32 BBs very dangerous those two basketballs very little danger one is actually a marker for longevity one is a marker for cardiovascular disease and it is the same amount of cholesterol just different sizes so different sizes i got my blood drawn a couple years ago and the doctor asked me if I was on cholesterol medication he said "Your cholesterol is really low." He goes "Are you on medication?" I said "No but I eat mostly meat." Yeah your your your um triglycerides would usually go down your LDL cholesterol will go up if you're on a ketogenic diet um uh Dr uh I think it's Nadir Singh is his name did an unbelievable he's a cardiologist did an unbelievable um YouTube video on this uh I actually did a podcast with Dr aim Malhotra who is a cardiologist has he been here too yeah unbelievable guy hey shout out to Aim he's incredible credible guy um and Aim would tell you the same thing that uh you know he he fought the British Medical Journal um and and got publications that he was trying to have published you know pulled because he was fighting the narrative on statins one of the biggest biggest drugs in the in the world we knew in the mortality space that the centinarians that we were processing death death death claims on um I don't recall a time during my career when we had a death claim on a centinarian somebody over the age of 100 that did not have elevated levels of LDL cholesterol at the time of their death because very often these people would die either in hospitals or cysticare living facilities and we'd process the death claim and in order to get the death claim processed you'd have to know you know day date time location cause of death they'd have to and we'd have to get a death certificate and these people were dying with elevated levels of LDL cholesterol which you would think well wouldn't they have died a lot younger of cardiovascular disease and now the data is starting to come out to support these other metabolic issues like hyperinsulinemia you know um hyper triglyceride um high you know high blood sugar that these these are villains that precede cholesterol you know attaching to the arterial wall and so when we talk about metabolic health we really shouldn't just isolate LDL cholesterol we should be looking at our blood pressure you know our our our abdominal uh obesity our our sugars mainly whether or not um you know what our fasting blood glucose is what the 3-month average of our blood sugar is our hemoglobin A1C making sure that's below preferably 5.4 um looking at our insulin because insulin resistance develops a long time before a lot of these things show up and looking at other inflammatory markers like C reactive protein and just generalized markers of inflammation because most people are eating a very pro-inflammatory diet and this is why you can't isolate one thing and say seed oils are what's killing Americans you know vaccines are what's killing Americans aluminum vaccines or or you know fluoride and drinking water it's the cumulative dose toxicity of all of these things um you know our water is toxic And we have fluoride we have chlorines we have PFAs polyflloral alkals we have microplastics we have bisphenols um you know I actually did a a test on myself and my entire family called a vibrant wellness test and you uh uh it's a blood and urine test and essentially it tells you whether you got mold miccotoxins heavy metals um all all of these different things the amount of BPAs in my blood and I am I would consider myself pretty on top of my diet game the amount of BPAs um there are traces of jet fuel there aphlotoxins um jet fuel there were traces of jet fuel from all your flying like um accelerants like uh like aerosol accelerants or maybe from flying I fly a lot um my daughter had it in her in in her blood too and so and and and so did my wife and then we and then we all had very similar species of mold which we which we got rid of and I felt a lot better um and it was in your home it was in uh it was actually in my daughter's apartment we actually ended up having our doctor write a letter and and and break her lease and we moved her into a apartment right next to us in in uh Coconut Grove in Florida but she was starting to have and she's a nurse and she was starting to have these strange symptoms just brain fog her joints were just killing her um in the morning by the end of the day her ankles were swollen um her mood started to collapse like the peaks and valleys of her mood kind of went away um she um and she was you know I was bringing her over to to the house and obviously as a biohacker I'm trying to solve everything so I was like we got to do this fiber wellness test medicine we got to figure out what's going on and then boom the mold just jumped off the chart our youngest daughter too was suffering from recurrent sore throats and you know that viruses and and I mean bacteria and and mold have been mortal enemies for years i mean think penicellin and bacteria right and so we live in the mold capital of the world and very often when you get mold toxicity it doesn't just it's not just a constant infection it has a latent phase a dormant phase and then a and then a sporulating phase and so these these mold infections which a lot of doctors will tell you are complete nonsense are absolutely valid i mean there are people that right now that have severe brain fog they have joint pain um they have really poor focus and concentration short-term memory issues they've got hormone imbalance they've got water retention um they got swollen ankles and they cannot really figure it out and they'll do a standard blood test and you don't see this on a standard blood test um and when you do something like a vibrant and you look at these um this mold toxicity you get rid of it and the you see the entire blood panel you know comes back into optimal ranges and they feel amazing just like my my daughter we did EBO2 we did sauna uh we did gut binders activated charcoal binders high doses of glutathione and over the next few weeks we slowly walked uh you know this mold right out of her her system but people suffer from this all the time in fact I've been deep down the rabbit hole of a lot of the foundations of these autoimmune diseases because in my previous clinic we had 150 160,000 patients come through our our clinic system and nearly everyone that we saw that had an autoimmune disease was told by their doctor uh you just woke up one day and your immune system went haywire right so you you have Crohn's disease because one day you woke up and your immune system is manufacturing antibodies to your colon or you have hypothyroid because you woke up one morning and and um your your immune system is manufacturing antibodies to your thyroid so yeah now you have Hashimoto's or the lacto gland in your eye and you have sugars or you know your blood you have lupus and we immediately just assume that God made a mistake that the immune system is malfunctioning instead of taking a step back and saying you know what if actually the immune system is acting properly what if God didn't make a mistake what if it's attacking the colon for a reason we just have to figure it out and if you just eliminated four things mold micotoxin heavy metals viruses and parasites just those four categories I believe that you would get to the majority of the genesis of of autoimmune diseases so you know some of these autopsy studies on multiple sclerosis for example were um 100% positive for certain colonies of Helmans um Helmans Helmans which are parasites and and and these Helman colonies or or or the larve from these were actually in the myelin sheath of 10 of 10 autopsies that they did on multiple sclerosis patients and I'm not by any way means saying that everybody that has multiple sclerosis has parasitic infection but there are healthy parasites there's categories of helmets that are very very healthy and some of the underdeveloped countries in the world where actually they have um these healthy parasites which we've wiped out for the large part here they don't get multiple scerosis or they have very very low incidence of multiple scerosis and one of the theories is that because we have um um we have disrupted the balance of not only bacteria but parasites in our gut specifically TSO parasites which are which are healthy parasites that the the pathogenic parasites proliferate and they burrow their their larve burrow into the myelin sheath and they're part of the genesis of of multiple scerosis my whole point in saying that is if you take any par pathogen let's just take this one right here what this is looks like a Donald Trump coin so I don't know if the audience could see this but let's say this was a mold spore or miccotoxin or this was a heavy metal um or or or even a virus and this was a healthy cell you see that they they don't hide like this right metals micotoxins mold uh you know viruses even in some cases parasites they don't hide outside of the cell like this they hide like this and inside the cell inside the cell i mean but when a virus um when when the nuclear capsu protein of a virus attaches to a cell and injects its DNA that's the way that it takes over that cell it's kind of kind of like being bitten by the zombie right i mean a virus is not a living thing it's an envelope that that's wrapped around DNA but when that envelope attaches to the cell wall and it and it squirts the DNA inside now the virus has taken over the host cell right so it's inside the cell but the point is that the immune system is not after this it's not after the cell it's after this so So how does it how does it get to this it has to kick down this wall it has to break through this cell wall and very often in order to do that it needs to manufacture an antibbody to this cell if you look for example at um uh h you know for for uh Hashimoto's which a lot of people have you know um these people have Hashimoto's and they're told okay well you woke up one day and your immune system decided to attack the the the uh thyroid you know you're manufacturing antibodies to your your thyroid and so um well why is it attacking my thyroid well we don't know um let's look at your family history oh your uh your mom's sister had it and your dad's brother had it oh you have familial Hashimoto's even though there is no gene for Hashimoto's so you couldn't have inherited it from your ancestor because it now runs in your family you're told that you have a genetically inherited disease and now you have to subscribe to a lifetime of medication instead of taking a step back and saying "Well what would have called my immune system to that site?" You look at the incidence of heavy metal toxicity um mercury poisoning in Hashimoto's look at the amount of lead and mercury poisoning in in Hashimoto's because the thyroid has an affinity for heavy metals and very often when they retreat into the thyroid the immune system will chase them there and look at the genesis of a lot of Crohn's disease i mean a lot of Crohn's disease has to do with the disruption of the single cell layer in your gut that allows bacteria and other pathogenic contents that should stay inside the luminal wall of your gut they they they leak out and they they're in an area that they don't belong and the immune system is attacking them there and then we want to hold the immune system responsible for the crime and say "Hey we're going to we're going to arrest the police officer um for what this criminal did i mean that those contents are in areas of the body where they don't belong and so we're going to put you on an imunosuppressant or we're going to put you on an anti-inflammatory um and we're actually going to stop the immune system from protecting you instead of saying what contents could be leaking from my gut that are causing the immune system to light up and you could just keep going through lots of autoimmune diseases like this you know multiple scerosis a lot of these conditions but mold miccotoxins metals parasites i mean if I was ever told that I had an autoimmune disease I would not accept it until I had done those kinds of tests interesting so back to the narrative of HDL and LDL how did it get formed that LDL is the bad cholesterol because the majority of people that had high LDL cholesterol also had high other factors going on in their body and just like a lot of these randomized clinical trials we look at things in isolation we study one thing in isolation one of the worst things we do in my opinion in modern science is study human anatomy or human physiology or biochemistry in isolation so we say we're going to take a cell out of the body we're going to put it in a lab we're going to look how it behaves in a petri dish and then we're going to assume that when I put that cell back into the body it's going to behave the same way and so we didn't solve for all of these other factors well what was the person's um um insulin level what was their fasting glucose what was their hemoglobin A1C what were their other inflammatory markers like C reactive protein creatine phosphocinise what were their what were the other lifestyle factors that were going on and what you you'll find is it correlation between high levels of cholesterol and people that have cardiovascular disease but not because of the cholesterol because of all of the diet and lifestyle risk factors that go around it but we can build a multi-billion dollar in fact a trillion dollar industry by just lowering this one biioarker and when we lower this biioarker if that biioarker were directly linked to all-c causeed mortality if it were directly linked to the incidence of of cardiovascular disease then we would see in the population where we lowered this biioarker we would see an extension of mortality right because we said this bioarker was high LDL so if we lower it with statin then we're going to see an extension in mortality and lo and behold we see no extension in mortality so how's it continued to be used because it's continued to be marketed that way you have to understand that there's there's a box uh that is called the standard of care and and I don't subscribe to the fact that physicians are trying to harm you in fact I have the deepest respect for people that are licensed to practice medicine because I'm not I'm not one of them and and you know they they go through a schooling to learn to practice within something called the standard of care if you're outside of the standard of care your your malpractice is at risk your reimbursement is at risk your career is at risk so you may very well be doing something that is in your scope of practice but it is outside the standard of care so most physicians will migrate back into the standard of care so even if you go around to a bunch of alopathic doctors and get multiple opinions they'll all be within this box when you jump outside of that box you got to be talking to somebody who's willing to say "Okay you probably have to pay me cash you probably have uh you put my malpractice at risk i don't have malpractice coverage for this type of treatment." Um not because they're breaking the law but because they're not within the standard of care it's just like when physicians started to prescribe ivormectin and hydroxychloricquin for COVID when it wasn't the standard of care even though there were millions and millions and millions of scripts written for um these pharmaceuticals that were proven to be extraordinarily safe i mean our our doctor used to have to write it for joint pain during COVID um so she wouldn't potentially risk her license so what happens is you develop a herd mentality because the system for reimbursement how they get paid the system for coverage how they get malpractice coverage and the system for their career is all dependent on things being inside of a certain box and the standard of care for someone with elevated LDL cholesterol is to put them on a statin if you don't do that you could be risking your license and why is that the standard of care because pharma dictates that that's the standard of care they also dictate the reimbursement rates and so if you look at the study that was done in 2016 by Harvard you know which determined that medical error was the third leading cause of death um I think it was repeated by Hopkins in 2019 but the Harvard study in 2016 is very clear that the third leading cause of death in America is medical error and when you look into the study for why you know were were doctors just killing people no what happened was they looked at ICD9 ICD10 ICD11 codes how they're coding um you know the diagnosis of what's happened to you i have to as a doctor I've got to sort of slot you into a diagnostic code so I can get reimbursed and you can get medication and we can all get paid mhm and but if I don't have a diagnosis to slot you into I got to pick sort of the next nearest one and there is no diagnosis or way for me to be reimbursed or or to make a living if I go "Look Joe you're your hemoglobin A1C is like 5.7 you're early stage pre-diabetic um you know you've got a little abdominal obesity going on your blood pressure is creeping towards the the high side your fasting glucose is is is really high let's talk about some diet and lifestyle choices tell me what's going on in your life what's a typical day of your diet look like you know can I put you on a treadmill for 25 or 30 minutes can I talk to you about intermittent fasting you know can I talk to you about things like a whole food diet exercise no none of that all of that is outside the standard of care if something happens to you and I haven't practiced within the standard of care I'm at risk and so I think a lot of that is what's really exciting about mahas i think a lot of that is going to begin to change you're going to see um Bobby Kennedy and his team uh again in my opinion you're going to see Bobby Kennedy and his team which have been empowered to make real change not just getting um uh you know poison out of our food supply and having the generally regarded as safe guidelines look at food safety before we put it into the public domain but you're really going to see him go after corruption in our nutritional research corruption in our um uh in our governmental oversight bodies you know how is it that we can have people that sit in the Food and Drug Administration and regulate private industry and at the end of that regulatory career go in to work for the same industry that they purported to regulate um and sometimes for 10 times what they would make as a as a regulator kind of kooky it's It's It seems to me like you would get arrested for that in another industry right i mean if you did that in the securities industry uh the banking industry you wouldn't get away with it um and you know 70 north of 70% I think the number 74% of our nutritional research is funded by private industry you know we we privatize the profit but we socialize the expense and and by this I mean like we we socialize through the tax subsidized medical system Medicaid Medicare the expenses right so the expenses go to the taxpayer but the payments go to private industry so we privatize the profit and we socialize the risk and then the private industry that benefits from this doesn't even have a fiduciary to the patients that they serve they actually have a fiduciary to the investor they and and they can go to prison for not actually performing for their investor they can't go to prison prison for not performing for their um for their patient so if I make a pharmaceutical that goes into your body but somebody lent you know invested in my company to make that pharmaceutical my responsibility is to them not to you so now you get harmed you get harmed I'm I'm held harmless but if I harm him by not selling it to you for the right margin he gets to put me in prison it's I mean it's it's it's mind it's so ass backwards it's so ass backwards and it's such an uphill sludge i mean the what what the the current administration has to do what what Bobby Kennedy has to do is sort of re restructure decades and decades of what's essentially corruption yeah and there's a there's a lot of people fighting them on it man wow i could only imagine because the amount of profit you know when you're talking about these industries the the amount of money they generate is astronomical mhm and they're responsible for so much of the advertising revenue of mainstream media that mainstream media not only will not cover the negative aspects of their drugs but will heavily criticize anyone who tries to go outside the narrative very true and I mean you know look at this um you know this uh strong kids commission um you know it's the idea is um to try to go to schools put physical education back into schools get highly processed foods out of the schools and actually not to fat shame kids but to promorphic encourage them like yes it's okay to not want to be sloppy and out of shape and to call that out and to actually be be physic physically fit and healthy it's not that you have to be there to be to gain status but it's okay to not want to be fat well there's also there's the real look I don't think you should shame people and be visible to them however if someone pulls you aside and says "Hey Bobby you're overweight and it's [ __ ] up your health and you know it's it's really bad for you." If that makes you feel bad and that feeling bad inspires a change in your lifestyle in your diet in exercise routines and what you do that's a positive and sometimes you have to feel bad like someone has to give you an F for you to realize oh my god I'm gonna fail in this class unless I study harder like that's part of life and you can't just coddle people and expect success that's not how it works i totally agree it's one of the most important aspects of athletics because athletics are a very clear it's a very clear formula that the more work you put in the harder you train the more results you'll get as long as you're not overtraining and you know you do it correctly if you put in the effort Yeah you work hard you will get results and that's that's a vehicle for the rest of your life if you can learn that at a young age that's why I think athletics are so important for young people if you can learn that at an early age that the discomfort is necessary for growth like being tired pushing yourself working out when you don't want to like pushing yourself to the point where your body has to adapt and grow and become stronger is a part of this process and it's beneficial and through doing that you will actually feel better it is actually a medicine if you could get the way if you could get the way I feel after I have a hard if I cold plunge have a hard workout get in the sauna stretch out and then go about my day if you could put that in a pill people are like "Oh my god my new anti-anxiety medication is so incredible my doctor it's so incredible i'm so happy that I went to this doctor cuz he put me on the right stuff." Yeah that pill if especially if it did all the things that exercise did without exercise it would be the most valuable pill in the world but getting people to feel discomfort voluntarily is so difficult when people have this sedentary lifestyle and this lazy mind and this entitlement that so many people have where they feel like the world owes them something instead of I've owe myself I've got to work for myself i've got to put off these uh feelings of I've got to de delay these feelings of you know relaxation and comfort and delay it and give myself some voluntary discomfort so that I can feel true peace yeah I actually trademarked the uh statement aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort by the way if you want to use that just use it i won't I won't sue you but also aging actually aging is that's part of it too aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort and if you think about that for a minute it truly is the more aggressively we seek comfort the faster we age it's like we really got to stop telling grandma not to go outside it's too hot not to go outside it's too cold just it's not even really aging right it's deterioration it's deterioration yeah you're going to at your muscles will atrophy your bone density will decrease your ligaments and your tendons will discomfort yeah i mean when has a cold plunge not sucked every it sucks every day [ __ ] I don't want to do Every day while I'm doing it there's my little inner [ __ ] that's trying to talk me out of it my little inner [ __ ] has a little whispery voice though it's like you know you don't really want to do this you don't need to Joe oh this is going to suck maybe you could just go eat cake you're rich and successful yeah you don't have to do this but thankfully the general the general is what I call the one part of my brain that I I try to keep the most dominant that that where I tell myself "Shut the [ __ ] up shut up stupid get in there this is not This is unavoidable get in there." I hear uh David Gogggins in my um in my head like you know like "Shut up you [ __ ] get in that get that get that gold punch." He's like "What does he say don't negotiate with yourself." My my my son and I went went on this uh race called the Great World Race which is seven marathons seven continents in seven days and um and I did a couple of half marathons and one full marathon but he did all seven marathons on all seven continents in seven days how banged up was he by the end of seven days yeah he was uh this was in November so he's 24 now he's 23 at the time so this like five months ago and um I guess at 23 you kind of feel like you can't be killed by a bullet turns out by Cartahena he was he was feeling it but um but we took the David Gogggins book with us and we read like I was reading like a chapter out of it every every day but um it was a crazy experience because so my son Cole and myself and my my uh cameraman my production guy went with us and initially I'm like this is so awesome we're going to see all seven continents in seven days we're going to see Antarctica dude by the third marathon I I was in just I was so exhausted and in so in so much pain and I had only done like half marathons when we got off the got off the flight in Antarctica um every all the all the racers go out and start running i had these big Timberland boots on and this big puffy jacket and I was just sitting at the start line just was going to wait for my son and um I asked the race director I'm like how how long are these loops he's like well um they're 6 point whatever miles and uh and there's four of them and uh I was like I could easily do one of these so I just started running went up for in the tinderlands in in the in these size 14 Timberlands dude which I which I immediately regretted because then the snow starts caking to the um to the bottom of my Timberland so I ended up actually marching and not really running and it was so funny cuz my my my son has these spikes on so of course he laps me and he comes by and he's like "Dad what the [ __ ] are you doing out here?" I was like I thought I'd give it a whirl so I actually made three loops so I got 18 miles oh wow he ran the whole 26.3 then you get on the plane and then you fly five and a half hours in economy sitting up like this right you fly 5 and a half hours and you land in Cape Town South Africa and you get off the plane and immediately run another marathon oh god and it's balls hot um and and then you we packed up and from that marathon so now these marathons were only like 5 and a half hours 6 hours apart so now you've done two marathons in 24 hours one in Antarctica one in the heat in South Africa and then it was like 11 hours to Perth Australia um and I ran another half there he ran a full full marathon there um and then you're done in Perth Australia and you pack up we flew to Istanbul and the cool thing about Istanbul is you could you could run on on the Asian side and then run on the European side so this was like the only night we got to stay into in a hotel room and actually take a shower um and so we get to Istanbul and um and the the marathon was supposed to be along this wararf it was like supposed to be it's a it's it's pitch black at night um it's the the dock is all broken apart you know there's these big huge cracks in the sidewalk and it was 26.3 miles along this wararf only the thing was we were told that they were going to get all the fishermen off the wall and so it was lines and lines and lines of these guys fishing at night and they would take the Oh boy and they would snap the hooks forward and so we get there and we're like "This is way too freaking dangerous." And I guess the the company that they had hired to clear all these fishermen just took their took their money and and said the whole course was going to be lit um found out the course wasn't lit so then you had to wear the the headlamps and um so it took him like an hour hour and 20 minutes to clear all these fishermen but then we started running and and we ran with those uh you know those headlights on and if you've ever been in the pitch black and you've just watched that light bounce in front of your eyes for I don't know how my son did it um cuz I ran for like like an hour and a half and I was like [ __ ] this i have nothing to prove you know I'm 53 i'm gonna be 54 i'm like um I've already run a few half marathons i feel really good so he ran the entire thing and I joined him for a bunch a bunch of laps but finally he just ripped the thing off his head because that light shaking in front of your eyes for 4 hours at a time pretty soon you just start to go baddy and then you you go to sleep the next day you run in the Asian side then it was 19 hours to Cartahania and um about a third of the athletes drank uh the water with the ice or ate the salad that was washed in the water from it oh no and the worst Monosuma's revenge Joe you could ever imagine oh no like a third of the plane wakes up six or seven hours into this 19-hour flight just puking both ends oh boy lines outside the bathroom lines outside the bathroom squeezing your butthole shut trying to get in there time people laying in the in the galleys just throwing up into the trash cans oh no several and I swear by the time we had landed my son had lost so much weight and he was just in the and then we had a we get to the hotel room which you you actually didn't get to spend the night we got to the hotel room just to change and he's in there just puking and you know crapping and he finally gets his race gear on we go downstairs and like half half of the athletes are like look like they're on their deathbed and because we were late to Cartahenia the the race goes off at like 12:30 in the afternoon 12:00 in the afternoon it's freaking 98 degrees maybe 100° 90% humidity it is the hottest flattest most unforgiving course and I remember turning to my production head of my production team this Max and um and I was like Max there is zero chance he's finishing this marathon cuz he'd already started about 28 210 lbs and he was probably 190 by this time and um and so I pull up next to my son and I was like "Look man if you don't give up on this race you know I I won't give up on you." And I sincerely regretted that at like mile 16 or 18 like saying that I would run the whole race with him because everything in I've never run a marathon except for that day everything in my entire body hurt Joe like like I was in so much pain from the waist down that I think I was just completely numb and he was just going from portaotti to porta potty puking and [ __ ] puking [ __ ] puking [ __ ] and um I was having these sentimental moments where I was like "Man I'm so so happy to be out here with you dude like this is we're going to look back on this one day and wish we were back here." And he would like look at me and go "Dad shut the [ __ ] up." And then we quiet down for like another 30 or 40 minutes and then I get sentimental again and he'd tell me to shut the [ __ ] up again we ended up finishing the race though i don't know how I don't know how he did it he sipped he sipped little ounces of coconut water for that entire Cartahan race and then we had to get on the plane and fly to Miami to run the seventh one which I didn't do he He did wow but I don't even know why I brought that up but it was a crazy crazy moment there were these women that were running this race I kid you not that they had Monzuma's revenge so bad that they would leave the rac course and run into the the bay that we were running beside and just [ __ ] themselves in the bay and then get back out and keep running and the guy that set the world record um in Antarctica uh left the course in an ambulance in Cardahania wow it was insane man my friend Cam Haynes when he was preparing for one of those ultra runs when you run for three days like 240 miles he was running a marathon a day while he was working an 8 hour job he was running a marathon a day a marathon a day yeah wow yeah there's a guy right now in Bahrain um staying with Shik Nasser who's the who's the one of the sons of the king of Bahrain and he is running 150 full distance triathlons in 150 days when I was there he was on 59 i kid you not it's amazing the body's potential if you just continue to push it the thing about Cam is Cam had been running for so long for so many years that he had this incredible base his base of cardio he was used to doing 10 every day 170 160 that's kind of big for that yeah he's not Well his son is even [ __ ] crazier his son just broke the world record in pull-ups in 24 hours in pull-ups wow yeah i think he did 10,0001 10,0001 in 24 hours 10,0001 in 10,000 so he had broke the So Gogggins had a record he broke Gogggins record and then some cat in Australia he's young he's like 25 wow um he's an animal too that's him and he runs with jeans on by the way why just for a [ __ ] goof he runs with Origin jeans have you ever used uh those stretchy jeans that Origin makes [ __ ] great they're basically sweatpants i don't know if I'd run a marathon in them they're basically sweatpants they they give you no resistance you can kick somebody in the head with them easy he's gifted though like you can tell that stride like he's just a well he's been living like a [ __ ] animal his whole life so he he came in seventh place in the Austin Marathon and he is not built like a marathon guy he's jacked yeah he definitely is i mean obviously he won the world pull-up championship or world pull-up record he he is where I got one of the ideas to carry a lot of weight for like like when I do 150 pounds of pose oh is that what he does so what he does he did this thing where I think it's a mile like see if you can find it so he's carrying a sandbag and I believe he has a weight vest on as well and I think the overall weight is over 200 lb and he goes a over a mile with over 200 lb oh just timed it see if you can find that just walking like on a truck i'm going short distances when I'm carrying heavy weight but what I'm trying to do is you know Peter Aia talked about this too like the importance of the ability to carry weight and walk with it and then there's this guy Tom talks about the the centinarian decathlon yes and then there's this guy in Australia who's like an incredible freak his name is Tom Havlan and he's an enormous guy he's like 6'7 close he's 300 lb just close to 400 right isn't he like closing in on 400 lb and he's muscular jacked jacked and one of the things that he does as a part of his uh he does like very unusual workout routines but see if you can find some videos on that's what he looks like I mean just a [ __ ] complete freak but he does white dude yes enormous guy too I mean he's a huge guy but he does a lot of his workouts are not just like normal deadlifts bench press all that kind of [ __ ] Some of his workouts he does uh carries things like he carries things like off one side or another side go to his Instagram so I can pick one a lot of these are just mostly you see just his back why when he filmed I don't know he's a psychopath he has to be out of his [ __ ] mind just to be doing this cuz he's one literally one of the strongest guys in the world really does he participate in like strongman cont i don't think he does i think he just does all this [ __ ] on his own and I don't even understand why so what does he weigh now 302 lbs wow he drinks He eats 6,570 calories a day yeah and 3,200 and uh no excuse me 329 gram of protein 814 gram of carbs 222 gram of fat and so he was And that's the current phase which is a deficit yeah this was him on his way to So go back to that yeah so he's at 340 pounds i think he was trying to get to 400 lb at one point in time but one of the things he does a lot is carry stuff and so I started looking into this idea like what what what is it what's the big deal about carrying and walking with stuff so like he does this like how much weight is that [ __ ] got carrying around with them how many weights is that i mean 500 lb what is that one two three four five 10 plates so it's 50 pounds yeah and so he's just walking short distances with this so I started doing that in my yard so I started doing it with farmer's carries and you know when I ruck I just use the 45 lb plate when I go a couple miles with the dog what's with the back i mean why isn't he Cuz he's a [ __ ] psychopath why does he have all clothes on too cuz if he takes the clothes off he's super impressive he takes his shirt yeah he's [ __ ] ripped i mean the guy is enormous i forget his background yeah that's him that's what he looks like dude holy [ __ ] and again he's like 67 or something crazy like that built that way wow um but he does a lot of carrying stuff and walking stuff he he feels like it's very important for like your overall strength is to be able to walk not just to be able to sit there and push stuff and do squats in place but to move with things where you're balancing and counterbalancing moving left foot right foot left foot right foot and uh I think there's a real benefit to that you know I like the I like the single arm you know farmer carry yes it makes a lot of sense especially just trying to stabilize your spine yeah i'll do that with like a 70 lb kettle bell and I'll just like walk up a hill with a 70 lb kettle bell and I can't get very far before I have to put it down because my grip gives out but I won't use straps because I think I really want to de like I've been doing a lot of I carry this [ __ ] around with me too cuz we have this thing in the um comedy club where it's a like one of those strength things where you squeeze it it has a counter yeah and I got to 161 pounds of how strong you can squeeze that's the hardest I've ever gotten so I want to get to 180 so I've been I've been squeezing just just grip strength just holding that [ __ ] all the time this a heavy you got you got some meaty paws there bro yeah I got some pretty big hands yeah just hold that [ __ ] i feel like hand strength to get angry hand No I do i like to get angry i just like to get angry if I can but hand strength I think is very important most of my work talks about grip strength and it's very important indication i do a lot of hanging too i do a lot of hanging from my back or my shoulders too i just hang from a a chin-up bar oh yeah i don't like I don't use How long can you dead hang two minutes okay i'm just just about there myself yeah just around two minutes i put those weighted vests on and and uh that's a good way to do it the weighted vest for short bursts i'll take like a 12 lb weighted AON vest and and and I don't think you could do it with a rock but but I do those those 12 pound aon vests and I just hang like this this is the one one of them too this one's about 12 lbs but yeah I do one series of all body weightight workouts where I do chin-ups push-ups and then L chin uh L I guess you would be pull-ups um where where it's a tight grip and you know by L meaning I lift my legs up and I hold them in position and I Saladino's got me doing that so I do that most of the time with no extra weight but like two times a month I'll do it with 25 lbs so I put a 25 pound vest on and do my entire routine with long blast yes yeah i think it's actually from Go Rock it's 25 pound it's like a like a you know just strap it in velcro it down and so I'll do my series of 10 chin-ups my series of 20 ch 20 dips and then 10 L L pull-ups and I'll do that but you're talking about like the LS sits where you're holding the bars and you just put your feet straight out tougher than they look but I'm not holding the bar down here i'm doing chin-ups oh chin-ups so I'm doing the L like this and then I'm doing these with my foot straight off so it's the abs it's like I'm just try I've had like a a problem with my lower back and I think uh a lot of it came from I know where it came from it came from archery where I was spending too much time pulling one side only and then also I was getting a little bit of tendonitis and I was just saying [ __ ] it just working through it do you try to shoot both sides with your bow now no but what I do now is cuz my bow's pretty heavy it's 85 lbs to pull it back but I'm doing it like when I'm really training hard like it's getting close to September I'm probably shooting 100 times a day so I'm 100 times I'm pulling back 85 pounds so now what I do and I learned this from Cam I take a 10 lb dumbbell and I hold it with my right because I pull my bow with my right arm so I put a 10 pound dumbbell with my right arm and hold it out and then with my left arm I have a cable like a cable machine and I'm pulling back the same I'm mimicking the exact same motion of archery i see so I'm holding in can't so you're doing this in a gym on a on a Yes like just a hand weight so I'm holding it like that and then I'm using the pulley and I'm pulling the cables back and I'm holding it for a count or two and then bringing it back holding it for a count or two and bringing it back so I'm balance out balancing out my back are you a lefty or a righty so So your righty is that's where you're holding your bow so my right arm I'm pulling back i'm holding the bow with my left arm to stabilize it and I'm pulling it back with my right arm so now to counter that I immediately go to the gym right after so one of the things I'm noticing is like boy I get [ __ ] so sore on my left side now because this is fairly recent i've only been doing this for a couple months the left side to stabilize it but I think I should have been doing it the entire time and because I was getting like really bad lower back pain last hunting season and it was just because of tendons i was just overusing you because you're stabilizing right so you're pulling back the bow and you're holding it in place and you're stabilizing on your right side and after your your form kind of breaks down all that because you get a little tired now I just when my feeling my form breaking down I stop i just stop shooting so instead of shooting a h 100 times a day now maybe I'll shoot 30 or 40 and I just stop i won't push because it's a meatthead mentality that I my stupid brain like won't abandon even though I know it's like injuring me yeah but this this is it it actually had became a problem and it was hurting me when I was playing pool and I did a bunch of things to deal with it one of the things I did is a thing called New Fit where they put uh which helped a lot where they put electrodes on your muscles and then you go through a series of core routines while you're doing that that helped a lot that's cool and then incorporating um rotational exercises helped a lot so I have like a golf bar no I have a bar like a straight bar and I'll put like my right leg forward and I'm so I've got it the bar back on the right side and I'm twisting forward so I'm doing that so a lot of rotational exercise and I'm also twisting up you know and I'm doing a bunch of different things to twist another thing I do is I sit uh on a pad with my legs elevated and I have a kettle bell and I'll twist it to the side with my legs up in the air so I'm getting all this rotational exercises into my system now that I didn't used to do before but I really should have been doing from the beginning i always did abs you know i always did um you know the the hip glute thing where you're you lean all the way back yeah ghd sit-ups yeah so yeah so I I do I used to do a lot Well I still do a lot of those and then back extensions but I wasn't doing rotational stuff and I think that's the difference when do you actually when when is hunting season for you december september oh September and where do you go like Utah or Wyoming yeah the photo that you were asking about out front that's Utah oh that's Utah it's beautiful and you go out for like a week and you just gorgeous love it stay at somebody's ranch out there it's just so lovely everything about it is great it's just I look forward to it so much that's why I love the mountains like you know honestly I think our long-term plan is to we got a beautiful place in Miami is to is to sell that place and get a spot oh I mean it continue to develop our spot in Colorado because there's something about these authentic log cabins glacierfed spring water willing septic you know solar fed electricity like just old school i mean and it makes you so happy and I totally agree with you i wish I wish that people could feel what that feeling is like and they wouldn't chase a lot of other Well I think there's also some intangible input that you're getting from society that you're not thinking about but that affects you that's absent when you're in the woods and you feel refreshed because it's a connection to mother nature i mean it's a connection to life you know I think that we've gotten so but I also think the absence of society is a thing i think I mean this is going to sound super kooky but I think even Wi-Fi and cell phone signals I think they have an effect on you i don't know how much of an effect i think I'll tell you a story true story about um so my house we have this uh we my wife and I sleep in an EMF free tent i went a little nuts with the biohacking here so sleep in a tent you know so every night we have these every every night that we're home in Miami so it's a PVC frame you know it's like uh five and a half feet tall six foot tall little frame it's just PVC it's dirt cheap and then draped over top of it is pure woven silver fabric so it looks like a mosquito net that's over our king-size bed and in the back of our bed it clips into this uh grounding mattress which plugs into the wall so the whole cage is grounded um and there's no 5G no Wi-Fi that's it right there jamie's got a photo of it oh that's exactly it that is literally exactly it i wonder if there So that protects you from Becca's bed in there if it would show it because I put it on the cramp that's exactly what we sleep in exactly that EMF shielding canopy see this is like kooky this is where you and I sleep in if I tried to bring that up my wife would smack me dude I I also have a hyperbaric chamber in our bedroom i have a hyperbaric chamber in the bedroom no in my house oh okay um I've got my podcast studio inside of one now inside of a hyperbaric chamber inside of a hyperbaric chamber how big is your hyperbaric chamber huge it's got two Maybach seats in it it's got like a 52 in or 54 in TV it's got three AI powered cameras my gym is in the hyper bear too well wouldn't So here's the thing i have a rower in weights like a whole set of weights and there's a risk of using electronics in a high oxygen environment you don't use a high oxygen environment you know never think there's any reason to go in a 100% O2 chamber i mean none of my chambers will go to 100% O2 so none of them are flammable you could have a candle inside of there theoretically I don't suggest it but you could they would tell you to not even wear certain kinds of clothes in the hyperbaric chamber yeah because if you have 100% O2 you can have static electricity and can light a spark and it could explode so what is 100% O2 versus like what you're doing so you have to actually put medical grade oxygen into the chamber which I don't do but you don't so so the one that I used to go to they would give you a mask and you would wear the mask and oxygen would get pumped into your mask while you're in the hyperbaric chamber you know yeah so that's also not flammable that's probably 92 93% O2 pure oxygen 100% oxygen is flammable it's just like pure hydrogen gas is flammable so 100% O2 is flammable i mean that terrible accident that happened to that young boy um in the Midwest here recently where the hyperbaric chamber actually exploded what happened um yeah I mean this a young I think it was 5 and a half year old little boy um uh was in a hyperbaric chamber and very sadly the technician left him in there didn't ground him um and um and he had a blanket in there with him and he moved the blanket and this static electricity you know caught 100% O2 oh exploded his mother was injured too oh my god i want to say that the both of the the nurse and the doctor and the clinic owner have been charged with with manslaughter oh my god terrible but the the those are 100% O2 chambers it's clear i mean it's important to make the distinction that these 100% oxygen chambers I mean these are these are bombs i mean and why would you have a 100% O2 chamber versus what you talked about so if you look at some of the therapeutic benefits for things like diabetic ulcers burns um things like that where um you know necrosis tissue necrosis um those make sense in a supervised hospital environment with you know someone standing right outside the chamber the entire time i've been in I've been in one one time in place called Bio Accelerator in Medigene Columbia and um but the the home use chamber is where you get a prescription from your doctor and you actually get a probably what you have is yours a soft shell no chamber it's a hard shell oh okay so that'll probably go to two atmospheres of pressure it's really good um so Dr jason Saunders who wrote the book hyperbaric medicine with uh Dr dmitri um will tell you there's a lot of benefits at at low pressures like 1.3 atmospheres which you can get in in a soft chamber and there are a lot of benefits at higher pressures like two atmospheres so I never go above two atmospheres twice the atmospheric pressure if you think about what's happening at twice the atmospheric pressure you're taking the oxygen from the air which is about 21% sea level what we're breathing right now and you're doubling that because you're doubling the pressure so every 33 feet you go below sea level you double the atmospheric pressure um so when you get to two atmospheres of pressure you're you're essentially taking in twice as much oxygen the oxygen concentration hasn't increased but the size of the uh gas has gotten smaller so now you're profusing tissues with oxygen that they that normally wouldn't be as profused with oxygen you can also put on a nasal canulus and get 92 93% O2 but that's also not flammable if you took a nasal canulus from uh from an oxygen concentrator like one that works for your e-wad or something and you let a lighter in front of it it would that that gas is not going to catch fire okay 100% O2 is is is flammable and very dangerous so what's the benefit of 100% O2 just a higher concentration of oxygen for things like you know diabetic ulcers when you have um uh anorobic bacterial infections um meaning bacterial infections that do not thrive on oxygen uh you have to be careful with aerobic bacteria because there are bacteria that actually feed on on oxygen as well and so you don't want to put somebody who has an aerobic infection into a hyperaric chamber you want to put somebody who has an anorobic infection into a hyperbaric chamber but what's really interesting is you know some of the research that's coming out of um uh Israel especially on cognitive function um using 60 days at uh two atmospheres of pressure and then reducing the pressure over time um you know the the improvement in mitochondrial density uh the improvement in blood flow um cognitive scoring uh reduction of neural inflammation um you know I know uh you can't say treat or cure but they they use these to modulate uh autism um all kinds of neurinflammatory conditions Parkinson's Alzheimer's uh which is really linked to type type three diabetes which is insulin resistance in the brain but the The byproduct of that is this neural inflammatory cascade so reducing neural inflammation um you know there are a lot of benefits to hyperbaric tissue recovery postsurgical wound repair postsurgical recovery you know these these things have pretty profound and there's also that study out of Israel that showed the lengthening of telomeres when they did a protocol of 60 sessions yes 90 minute sessions over 90 days yes 60 days or 60 sessions in 90 days 60 sessions in in in 90 days 60 90 minute sessions in 90 days you're right Dr saunders talked about that a lot too and they showed a telomere lengthening which was the biological equivalent of a decrease of age of 20 years yeah it's a chromosomal encap um and if you think about it I have a saying that that you know the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease and I truly believe that because if you look at the breakdown in mitochondrial respiration which occurs when you deprive the mitochondria of all kinds of things but mainly of oxygen which is our fuel source you know which is not not our fuel source as humans our fuel source is ATP but the fuel source for the mitochondria mainly oxygen and when you feed it oxygen you have a 16-fold step up in cellular energy when you deprive it of oxygen you have a 16-fold step down in cellular their energy right i mean the difference between aerobic and anorobic respiration or the KB cycle having the presence of oxygen or not having the presence of oxygen is a pretty substantial number and so um hyperarics because they allow for compressed oxygen even if you don't increase the percentage of O2 right you take it you keep it at 21% like we're breathing right now but you just double the atmospheric pressure i mean the the effects are pretty pretty profound m um and and I believe the risks are low if you have a physician you understand how to operate the chamber and you have safety procedures and you're not using 100% O2 and you're you're at shallow depths you can ascend quickly without being in trouble if you're a diver you understand dive tables you have to ascend at certain rates and pause at certain levels so the one that that I I built I was like man how do I just compress time i'm like well I'm going to work out so what if I was able to put the gym in there and doing podcast i remember the guy thought I was out of my freaking body started talking it does sound crazy yeah but it's got a it's it's got a Nord Track rower in there and And how big is it like the size of this room it's It's pretty big let me see if I can show you a picture of it um that would be a great way to like compress time more than one thing at the same time you feel amazing i feel amazing getting out that's actually my son working in it wow wow that's crazy so that's my son Dylan we went in there working out in a hyperbaric chamber and he could kind of watch Netflix in there too he got a screen in there and everything wow and uh it's got uh Yeah we're just jamming some music and then he does the Wow playing a little rap music so I was playing I was playing some rap music i got a sound bar in there that's pretty dope yeah it was pretty cool that's awesome um yeah I just lay down in mine and listen to books um well the other one you can lay down in it's it's it's got these seats that recline it's got a television in it too so you can I go in there watch the news sometimes oh that's great yeah my wife and daughter goes in there and they just take a nap i was talking to Dana about it like how beneficial it is like how much time does it take i'm like it's about two hours and he's like I don't have that [ __ ] time everything you got to do something you're doing the red light that's trying to compress time like just like if you could get the you know the hydrogen into the cold tub i mean he's going to be he's going to be at my my house tomorrow so we're going to try that how much are those little bombs for the bath the hydrogen bombs uh I know they're about to come out with them i don't know if you can order them on the site yet i think they're probably going to be if it's if it's 30 bucks for 30 of those H2 tabs um then I would imagine they're going to be around five or 10 bucks okay um 10 bucks for a hydrogen bomb to drop into the to the bathtub i mean the machine is you know I was actually originally going to order this um electrolysis system called a cocoon um or it's spelled Cquin like uh the facility out in Las Vegas um which makes oxygen water that system is like $110,000 and then a buddy of mine Tyler Learon who's the PhD um in the space um told me about this machine I could order from Korea for $7,500 which is the one that I have now and now um I've added a a nanobubble machine um and that one's just incredible i mean for for this transdermal inflammation and I think for for people that have like you know chronic injuries especially like chronic repetitive use injuries or they have real severe low back pain or they've got parents or something that are deconditioned you know that that have a hard time um exercising you know these are these are you know great things to to to do to lower their inflammatory cascade you know that and um there's something called EWAD exercise with oxygen therapy which is kind of based on Otto Warberg's research where and I do this with my parents because both of my parents are deconditioned my mom has dual knee replacements and my dad is handicapped from a boating accident years ago um he has no cognitive impairment but he has some motor coordination difficulties so it's hard for him to really exercise and um I I I bought them a sauna and I put them both in a sauna for um 20 minutes three times a week and they just breathe i I board a hole and they just breathe through a nasal canulus then 92 93% O2 which is a version of EWAT the exercise with oxygen therapy or the multi-step oxygen therapy because if you just can raise their heart rate just you know a little bit with the heat then that extra profusion pressure really drives oxygen into the tissues and I'll tell you it's a noticeable change in them just like when you get out of a cold plunge you had a really good workout well imagine you know you're elderly and you're deconditioned you know you really don't get your heart rate up you really don't get your good sweat on but you go into a a sauna raise your heart rate and and breathe some of that 92 93% O2 you they they feel amazing getting out of there this is a kind of important thing to talk about because there was a study that was released recently that showed um that when people use the cold plunge after workout you see a decrease in hypertrophy of course you do yeah this is a terrible study i was pissed off to see that i was cuz people like "Yeah told you it doesn't work." all these [ __ ] that don't want to get in that cold water folks you do the cold before this is the way to do it i know it sucks do the cold before you work out or wait several hours after you work out and then you cold plunge right i totally agree i mean if you think about what you get from cold plunging let's not overblow it or underblow i mean but you know you get um well first of all if you if you exercised intensely let's just say you did a big squat workout and you tore a bunch of quad muscle what's going to happen um what's the body going to do yeah the body's going to send more blood flow more amino acids um more more oxygen to those muscles it's going to pull inflammatory factors like creatinin you know the the breakdown of muscle uh the byproduct of muscle breakdown it's going to pull that out so why would you want to say it's creatinin creatinin okay creatine is Right right right you take I never knew how to say that word though i've seen it yeah which which is actually very goodin yeah yeah so because I know there was a fighter that was actually pulled from a fight once cuz he had high creatinin levels yeah that's a kidney issue um it's actually a sign of rabdomiitis right overtraining yes that makes sense because he was a psycho yeah you start to break down so so creatinin is is a byproduct of muscle breakdown it's perfectly normal to have creatinin in the blood but when it gets very high so there's usually three markers they look at for kidney health one is called blood ura nitrogen bun one is called creatinin this breakdown of muscle byproduct and rabdo is when your muscles start to break down at a rate that your kidneys can't clear it a lot of people that go too hard when they're not in shape like they dig too many CrossFit classes they get robbed yes they get rabbed though and and what's interesting is you know a lot of a lot of athletes really conditioned athletes get it too because they have a tendency to be mentally a lot stronger than their bodies that's the problem that meat head mentality that I was talking about that led to me having this tendon issue in my lower back yeah cuz I was worried that it was a disc issue but it's not in the disc it's like right here on the right hip area where it's like the stabilizing muscle but you you so you think about it okay so the the blood and then there's something called EGFR which is your kidney filtration rate right which is your glomemeular filtration rate it's how quickly is the blood moving through your kidneys because about 15 times every day the full volume of your blood goes through your kidneys but if you think about what happens when you get into a cold plunge so first you get this peripheral vaso constriction um and then you get a uh a release of of something called cold shock proteins and if you ever really want to have some fun just Google around about cold shock proteins look at LIN 28A and LIN 28B these are cold shock proteins that are being actually researched for their impact on insulin sensitivity improving insulin sensitivity um and then uh you know you activate a very special type of fat called brown fat which essentially exchanges a calorie for a measure of heat so it takes a calorie and turns it into heat and that's a very good thing if I'm taking calories and turning them into heat you know there's a cost to raising your thermostat and you think if you're in let's say 50°ree water and you get out of 50°ree water and you're standing in a 70°ree room how's your body go to 98.6 right how do you actually not only how do you exceed the the temperature of the room you're in well your metabolism is raised largely because of the activation of brown fat and there's a cost to that the cost is calories so anybody tells you that cold plunging is not good for burning fat I think is missing the the breath of the of of the science and then the final thing you get is you get this spike of dopamine which lasts hours yes and that's where you get that like laser focus i feel freaking good you feel so good dude you're never in a bad mood getting out of a co-pound right that's another thing that if you could give that to people in a pill they'd be like "Oh my god I found the best anti-depressant." Yeah yeah that's a gold punch so true well one thing is beneficial though post-workout is sauna right in beneficial for muscle growth yes yes and also as a static cardio correct cuz your heart rate's already elevated i like to go in literally the moment I put the weights down I get right into that 196° the 20th minute's tough though bro the 25th minute's even tougher oh you go yeah that's the the last five i used to get to the the 20 and I'd be like "Okay finally." And then the [ __ ] general started talking no yeah come on [ __ ] five more minutes oh no and the the thing is too when I'm in the sauna I'm not just sitting there i'm hard stretching i do deep stretches which is exhausting too because it's it's hard to do you know i'm holding like deep static stretches you're pretty flexible though right yeah pretty flexible that's so cool but that's because I keep it i mean I'm 57 i keep my flexibility yeah yeah going into the saw post you know there's a lot of people as they get older they they lose that flexibility and I think that's another thing that I actually if I'm criticizing myself I didn't do enough of before I started [ __ ] my lower back up lower back's pretty solid now though it's still like irritates me sometimes when I wake up in the morning but it's nothing that stops me from doing anything i can still kick the bag which is that was the big one like because you're there's so much torque involved in the waist when you're kicking the bag and I hate not being able to do that so the fact that I can still get those workouts in is really huge for me that is the absolute best stress reliever in the history of kicking bags of mother earth yeah hitting a bag put put some 16 gloves on set a timer and start doing rounds on the bag start slow and you know what do you we start at like 30 seconds a minute oh I do three minute rounds i do three minute rounds and then one minute rest three minute rounds one but but the first few rounds while I'm warming up I'm just kind of tapping i'm like bap i'm just I'm not full blasting it but then around four when I'm really sweating then I start to dig in and then what I do what I do is um I have two different timers and one of them I have this ringside timer that will give you these 30 second um like dings so it'll give you three minutes but it gives a different sound that goes off at at 30 seconds and so that's like Why so you know you're halfway through the minute no so you you know when to sprint so you have sprinting times and then you have other times where you're sort of coasting and then the the number goes off and you sprint and then I'll also do Tabatas and so Tabatas that protocol is 20 seconds work 10 seconds rest so I do that protocol my favorite way to do that one is actually on the aine so I have that oh that a dine too the Rogue machine is the best it's called the Echo Bike the Rogue is like made they make the It's such a sturdy [ __ ] rock solid piece of equipment they really [ __ ] dig in yeah it's a Rogue one though they call it the Echo Bike some of them get a a picture of the Rogue one it's much sturdier than the other ones that I've seen and so I do and it has Tabata built into the system so you can just press so brutal yeah so it's eight eight reps of this so 20 second sprint 10 second rest 20 second sprint 8 sec 10 second rest you do that for eight a series of eight so that's the rogue one it's real thick and robust and you go [ __ ] ham on that that's called the echoike yeah it's for me the best way to increase my cardio that Tabata protocol I don't know some guy named Tabata invented that protocol but um what is that uh treadmill with the weights oh the hit treadmill yeah that's great too yeah I ordered one of those oh you walk in with weights like Oh so it's like a farmer's game exactly but you're going uphill on a treadmill [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah let's go come on dog let's go it's all about work you know getting your body to slowly build up to more and more work make sure you're taking mineral salts when you're doing that oh I I take a lot of [ __ ] yeah yeah i'm I'm always Well I use element you know that Yeah lment tea i take that stuff and I put a b I'm addicted to that chili mango flavor oh it's so good oh of tea oh it's so good spicy a little bit just a touch just a touch of spice i really like it touch of spice so I'll have like a 64 ouncez water with four of those poured into it and Oh 64 ounces yeah and so I'm just hammering it so but that's made a giant impact in cramps i don't get cramps anymore yeah a lot of people think that you know sodium is it's funny how many people think sodium is the enemy there's a really interesting [ __ ] like the like the cholesterol [ __ ] like there's so many people like "What oh your sodium you're going to have a high blood pressure you're going to die." Yeah all your cholesterol from your carnivore diet you're going to die like [ __ ] come work out with me you'll die yeah you'll die [ __ ] come out i'll kill you yeah just one leg kick no I mean with the workout it's fun i take people through my workout i love taking people through it cuz I've done it for so long that it's it's so hard but I've built my system up to be able to tolerate it so when I bring people in even people that work out they're like Jesus Christ like this is a lot of [ __ ] like Yeah yeah how long do you work out 90 minutes it's at least 90 minutes yeah yeah cuz I I do what's called when I'm not doing endurance training I do the strong first protocol so Pavle Tatselene he developed this kettle bell protocol where so a lot of people like to work to failure um I don't work to failure ever but I do the same amount of reps so like say if I have uh a 70 lb kettle bell right and I'm doing cleans and presses if I can do I could probably do 20 reps to failure by cleans are you pulling it just to your chin are you talking about all the way up so one arm kettle bell swing press yeah down clean press like if I go to failure I don't know i probably could do like 20 reps with 70 pounds but I don't do 20 reps i do 10 and then I put it down and then I wait like several minutes and then I'll do my left side and then I wait several minutes more and then I'll do my right side again so I am completely rested by the time I do my second set so I'm getting those 20 reps in but I'm doing it in two sets rather than in one set and so then I'll just do multiple sets to get the same amount of work in i I think I heard him describing this to you it's it's the amount of work yes right so he's outworked you yes because he's done more but you have to have time and you you will feel like a lazy [ __ ] because you're doing your set but then your your heart rate's completely drop down before you do it again really yeah yeah i take a long time i watch TV i'll get on my phone i [ __ ] off i sit down and you feel like a lazy [ __ ] but I'm doing it over two plus hours wow so when it's all over I'm getting a lot of reps but I'm not getting the same breakdown of form so the way he says it is he he says that strength is a skill and that you shouldn't be doing skills when you're exhausted like he he doesn't believe in like CrossFit and like all these workouts where you're going to like extreme repetitions where you're breaking down your body's fail people get injured that way a lot yeah they do and some people don't you know but these are elite athletes and you build yourself up to it and I understand i'm not against Have you noticed that you've got I'm not either but have you noticed that you've gotten a lot stronger oh yeah like Yeah yeah yeah yeah by doing it this way well this is the thing like I don't bench press but one time we were doing this uh this podcast and we were drinking and we were drunk and we all like went to see like I don't even I don't bench press but I I bench press 225 13 times and I don't do it i don't do it i was like let's see and I was like "Yep but that's no bench pressing i don't bench press." And what do you do for your chest i do push-ups i do 100 push-ups a day and I do dips that's it yeah dips are dips are great yeah so I don't like have a big chest so what else do you do do you supplement with so you take like creatine creatine is amazing every day i think you know especially for women by the way i think if you're a female and you're 40 years or older you need to be taken i think it's great for your mind too there's been studies for cognitive function cognitive function and also cognitive function if you're sleep impaired it's one of the few things that's shown that can completely diminish the effects of sleep deprivation you should most certainly make up for that sleep don't get me wrong i'm not saying you don't need sleep just take creatine you definitely need sleep we were talking about this the other day i think it's one of the most important things that people neglect i think so too um so I I take creatine every day i take all the supplements that you recommended to me uh TMG methylolate i take lots of vitamin D K2 yeah all that jazz do you take that 10x optimized you take the the multivitamin or do you take them separately i take everything separately take I take uh I use pure encapsulations vitamin packs so they have a pack that has like basically all your [ __ ] and then on top of that I pile on you know one other thing that I've started taking that I've been taking actually for a while that it I was having uh a decrease in my eyesight and it was pretty noticeable as you know age related macular degeneration so I started taking macular support by pure encapsulations that seems to have had an effect but really what's had an effect is the red light bed i know red light bed has had a big effect i told people like you text me and you're like "Bro my eyesight is totally improved." Mine stopped deteriorating and start It improved slightly it's definitely were the point where I could look at my phone i don't need glasses cuz I was using reading glasses all the time when I was looking at my phone and now I don't need them at all anymore yeah um I would I would Yeah definitely uh uh red light therapy i would add um what I gave you the other day those uh perfect aminos which is just essentially the nine essential amino acids you know we talk about how most people are trying to dose protein so they can get to the amino acid equivalent or they're taking imperfect proteins like or incomplete proteins like collagen which which can't build which is a great protein but it won't build muscle because then but this is an important point too you were talking about the other day that collagen does not build collagen and there's this Yeah i mean I think that the idea that we can target direct proteins is is is a fallacy i you know I use the analogy that we don't eat our nails to grow our nails and we don't eat our hair to grow our hair but we think that we can eat collagen to grow collagen and that's actually not true i'm not anti-ollagen i'm just saying if you eat collagen or put collagen in your coffee it doesn't show up as collagen in your skin um my preference would be you take something that is a uh has all of the nine essential amino acids i take one called perfect aminos but there's other products out there that are all nine essential amino acids you take um Can I pour that into the water with the um hydrogen with the electrolytes in it 100% it's not going to have any diminished i I think the best morning cocktail is to take a mineral salt like a Baja Gold salt or a um uh Celtic salt um add that to your um drinking water drop a hydrogen tablet in there take a scoop of perfect aminos put that in there hydrate mineralize and and get the amino acids can I ask you another question about creatine is there any decreased benefit in taking creatine gummies versus creatine powder um you know I don't I haven't looked at the at the at the bioavailability i mean there's there's two types of creatine which is you know monohydrate and HCL monohydrate is where all of the research is there's a lot more research uh on creatine monohydrate um but creatine also comes in the HDL the hydrochloride form and I I tell people that if they if they take creatine monohydrate and they and they have bloating which some women do they'll have a little water retention or some bloating then just take the creatine HCL what about HMG with creatine no issues if not at all is that a good thing because I know that a lot of companies they combine creatine and HMG for some reason yes what is the benefit of that combining the two of them together i uh so myophibbral uptake or cellular uptake right so bioavailability is a lot of these a lot of things that we we pair together for bioavailability like uh D3 with K2 you know and magnesium as well right yeah and magnesium is one of the critical deficiencies i always take that with D3 and K2 that's good you take magnesium with D3 and K2 that's perfect that's a way that wouldn't you know we Can you take too much magnesium um you can take too much magnesium it's a little hard i mean it's a really essential light metal i mean you would have to really overs supplement with that i take a nighttime uh I take this thing called by Bio Optimizer it's called magnesium breakthrough which has seven forms of magnesium in it um I'm a big fan of that you can also isolate the magnesiums if you have trouble sleeping magnesium 3inate is really good um magnesium citrate and glycinate are good for intestinal motility so if you're not somebody that has regular bowel movements um magnesium deficiency is highly linked to poor intestinal motility so if you're not somebody that wakes up within 45 minutes of the day and has a bowel movement um you may want to look to you know magnesium supplementation the night prior and see if that fixes your your bowel movement also you know people that have that ruminate at night who you know they lay down to go to sleep and their body tired but their mind awake um this is generally a rise in something called catakolamines these these neurotransmitters in the brain that create awakened state they're also the same neurotransmitters that create anxiety and trigger our fight orflight response uh a lot of times magnesium methylolate um and a simple B complex will quiet those those squirrels very very simple methylated nutrients to actually break down those catakolamines because you know I talk about this all the time a lot of people that suffer from anxiety are never really told what it is like nobody sits them down and tells them what is anxiety like why do I feel um why do sometimes I feel like I'm in a heightened state of awareness and then I move from a heightened state of awareness to being anxious and then I move from being anxious to full-blown anxiety like I actually feel the presence of a fear and then um you know sometimes that presence of a fear goes into um like a rapid heart rate or acute hearing or pupils dilate and then that goes into a full-blown panic attack and if if catakolamines continue to rise you can even have a full-blown paranoia it's it's this rise in this category of neurotransmitters called catakolamines so if we identified anxiety as that and I'm not saying it's always that but the majority of people have that form where uh they have metabolism issues because of a gene mutation called comp t and they are worriers not warriors so they lay down to go to sleep at night their mind wakes up they start ruminating thoughts at night if they think about anything at night they'll take it straight to worst case scenario so every scenario that they that they ruminate on at night they take it to worst case scenario um that's crazy that that could be nutritionally related it's absolutely nutritionally related because when you when you talk about what do catakolamines do in the body there are fight-or-flight response so if you if you walked out of this door right here and somebody was standing in front of you with a knife uh right in that hallway your besides kicking their ass your pupils would dilate your heart rate would increase your extremities would flood with blood your hearing would get acute you would instantly start having a fight orflight response well what happened right i mean that person didn't do anything to you yet what happened inside of your body that caused that response you received a dump of catakolamines norepinephrine epinephrine uh fedrron and dopamine one of those we call adrenaline so so you're in this hyperaccute state so that's that's like we dump those to an eight full-blown fight orflight response well what happens if we dump them to a three well if that happens at night your body tired but your mind awake and so you lay there just ruminating because your mind is in awakened state even though your body is tired and so if you look at the pathways that actually break down catakolamines how do we downregulate catakolamines complex of B vitamins a form of a form of uh B12 called methylcobalamin which you can get anywhere um guys um a uh something called methyl folate um and every once in a while uh Sammy acidenosomethion it is astounding what you can do to human beings by putting those raw materials back has anybody ever done a study on people with paranoid schizophrenia to find out if they're lacking in all this no no doubt paranoid schizophrenia are are the next level you know what's what's really interesting is I interviewed a Harvard uh physician on my uh podcast and he was treating drugresistant me mental illness with um diet mainly keto diets and he found that the beta hydroxybutyrate which is the ketone body the main ketone body in in this and and basic supplementation fixing their methylation pathways um meaning supplementing for for methylation poor conversion of certain chemicals um led to more better behavioral changes than they were having in the drugresistant um uh mental illness group and it's it's really fascinating because we don't like to think that nutrient deficiencies could lead to serious mental illness could could you um just uh Google uh methylation chart can I just show you a chart of methylation the reason why I want to put it up here is because um and just click on any one of them once you once you put it up there it's going to look like this complicated myriad just Yeah click on that one um so this is something I've committed to memory but um the reason why I show a lot of people this chart um is for what's not on here so this is what we call methylation okay this is this is the process that's going on 300 billion times a day inside of all of your cells and you'll see tryptophan and tyrrosine and phenyl alanine and koninoic acid lactic acid cholesterol you see all of this stuff on this chart the reason why I show people this chart is because this is going on 300 billion times a day inside of your body um every minute and every hour of every day and what you do not see on this chart is a single synthetic a single chemical or a single pharmaceutical so why is it that we think synthetics pharmaceuticals and chemicals could be the answer to deficiencies in this chart they're not so what happens if I just start wandering around this chart and I find something like serotonin and I go "Wow let me just let me just serotonin is the main driver of mood i wonder how serotonin is made." Oh I actually in fact there's serotonin right there what is it made from just follow that arrow up oh it's made from tryptophan and what do I need in order to convert tryptophan to serotonin i need 5HTP i need thamine i need a complex of B vitamins could it be possible that a complex of B vitamins is stopping me from converting tryptophan into serotonin yes and what happens if I can't convert tryptophan into serotonin serotonin drops and if serotonin drops I cannot assemble moods that require serotonin so now I've been told I have a mood disorder and I have a nutrient deficiency look at this anxiety ADD ADHD see that on there mhm okay what what do we make um dopamine from phenol alanine and tyrrosine what if I had a deficiency in phenol alanine or tyrrosine oh I couldn't make the neurotransmitter dopamine what is dopamine dopamine is the main driver of behavior well what happens if dopamine is low now I have an addiction why because the absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction so could I have addictive behavior because I'm low in dopamine and not actually just addicted to nicotine alcohol drugs permiscuity gambling absolutely and why is it that most de most addictions have a tendency to shift and never really go away if you've ever really been an addict or ever known a true addict um why is it that their addiction has a tendency to shift and not go away yeah like some of them find a healthy thing to get addicted to like running yeah they'll be a So alcoholics become workahco workaholics become work alcoholics i mean when I used to compete amateur in in in long-distance triathlons um uh most of the guys that I raced with were recovering addicts of some kind some of the scariest guys I've ever trained with were former drug addicts cuz they're this is their new They're [ __ ] driven like in a weird kind of crazy way why are they driven so hard well some of them actually almost died and they realized that but you know I've been to death store and come back the absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction and we never treat the dopamine deficiency we only treat the physical addiction so we get you off alcohol and now you're on you know Suboxone you get you off Suboxone and now you're gambling you're off of gambling and smoking cigarettes and you're done smoking cigarettes you're you know so a lot of alcoholics synonyonymous people are smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee constantly now why is that because they're they're chasing the dopamine deficiency rarely if ever did a true out you know addict wake up one day and just say I want to get really banged up the majority of addicts woke up one day and said I want to feel normal and it was the search for normaly that developed the addiction they smoked a cigarette they felt normal they took a drink and they could socialize um they were promiscuous and they kind of felt normal they jumped off a [ __ ] mountain in a squirrel suit and the rush of dopamine actually brought their dopamine level to normal they actually felt calm 15 in away from death and so the deficiency in dopamine very often drives this and we label these people with mental illnesses we label them with um mood disorders but serotonin is a po part of the recipe of mood so if you said to me what is a mood what is an emotional state i would say it's a collection of neurotransmitters bound to oxygen so let's say that that you said okay what's happiness okay there's so much serotonin so much dopamine so much norepinephrine so much epinephrine boom you put these together you have the emotion happiness well what if I just took serotonin out right like what if I went to a bakery chef and said "Hey chef you can bake whatever you want you just can't use butter." And so I took butter out and doesn't sound like a big deal it's only one one component but think of how many recipes that would affect cookies pastries pies brownies well the moods are no different i say Joe you can be in whatever mood you want you just can't use serotonin so now any mood that you go to assemble that requires serotonin you can't manufacture so now you have a mood disorder instead of taking a step back and saying "Well why doesn't he have serotonin where's serotonin made?" Well serotonin is made in the gut 90% of it's right here so if you don't have it here you can't have it here and and so then why don't we go to the factory in the gut that makes serotonin where is the factory that turns tryptophan into um the neurotransmitter serotonin well it's in it's in the gut what is that done through a process called methylation you mean if I'm deficient in certain vitamins or nutrients um that methylation cycle is not working and I might not produce serotonin and therefore I might have a mood disorder yes am I saying that all mood disorders come from that no but there are so many things that come from this methylation cycle that are so uh potentially easy to fix with basic supplementation you know for two years um for two years in in our initial clinic my wife and I uh and our doctor we we we pulled blood work i think it was about a 1600 uh patients or so that came through our clinic so we pulled blood work and we pulled these basic biomarkers CBC CMP lipid panel hormone panel and nutrient deficiencies and then we also pulled this methylation test right looking at five genes of methylation and and um and and you can get these methylation tests done anywhere and we looked at these five genes and then what we would do is we would solve um with supplementation for the genetic deficiency and watch what happened to the blood biomarkers you would see kidney filtration rates improve you would see waste elimination like people become more regular you would see uh C reactive protein these these non-specific markers of inflammation drop you would certainly see things like homocyine drop people have that very very high levels of homocyine you supplement them with the right um nutrients a B complex something called trimethoglycine and they start to break down homocyine and then all of a sudden they're reporting that their blood pressure is returning to normal and have um less frequent headaches it is astounding to me how many people are just nutrient deficient and don't accept that basic supplementation or oh we can get everything from diet [ __ ] if you look at a soil lineage study from 1945 and a soil lineage study right now you would be astounded to see how depleted our food supply is or our soil is add processed food and all this other stuff to it you don't stand a chance you need you need basic supplementation all human beings need the same things we need two essential fatty acids essential means they're essential for life um you need nine essential amino acids so you can supplement with the nine essential amino acids in the morning you can supplement with the two essential fatty acids omega-3 fatty acids like uh black seed oil or good omega fish oil you can supplement with the minerals so many of us are mineral deficient and we don't realize the expression of mineral deficiency now what is the best kind of minerals to take is it like chelated minerals is it colloidal there's one called Baja Gold Sea salt it's probably one of my other favorite bio hacks because a bag of Baja Gold sea salt like a Celtic salt will have all these trace minerals in it a $15 bag will last you five years it's dirt uh cheap and you can take a quarter to a half teaspoon of this put it in in your drinking water i'll throw a hydrogen tablet in there and some amino acids take that with a methylated multivitamin and take that with um an omega-3 fatty acid and you have all the bases covered first thing in the morning and if you have you don't have to take that with the vitamins with food um I would take the vitamin D3 with food i would actually take all of that when I would take the the amino acids and the the hydrogen and the and the uh sea salt on an empty stomach is fine whenever you're going to take your multivitamin and and your D3 which is fat soluble I would take those with food so first thing in the morning you just hydrated and mineralize the body um just with a basic sea salt um just hydrate and min and there's a lot of good mineral and the amino acids you take on an empty stomach amino acids you take on an empty stomach and and and those amino acids uh those perfect amino acids won't won't break a fast they have they're non-caloric or they have I think one calorie but they they won't break a fast and now you have all nine of the essential amino acids you've got the majority of of the essential minerals you've hydrated yourself and you put hydrogen gas into your to your blood you will feel the difference right you you you just feel and it's a simple thing to do and it's such a simple thing to do um and I get so much flack for telling people to do that like it's just these this is just getting us back basic i dude it's crazy it's just too many yeah I'm going to have to start shutting it all off yeah you have to it's It make it'll make your life a lot better you know what you're doing yeah and people are listening and it's working you know you know there's just too many people out there that are crying for attention and one of the ways they get attention is by attacking people who are getting positive attention that's a shame [ __ ] those people [ __ ] those people anything else we should talk about before we wrap this up i think I think we covered a lot people review this and go back and forth i I love coming out here and chopping it up with you man i'll see you at the fights tomorrow too yes sir i'm excited yeah tomorrow's the weigh-ins and then Saturday night's the fights i'm pumped and by the way dude Joe Rogan on on the Ultimate Human podcast a rare sighting as well yes thank you that was cool cuz we went down we went down some rabbit holes man we went down the pyramids and Yeah we talked about a lot of cool [ __ ] yeah a lot of cool [ __ ] on there well thank you Gary thank you very much for everything i really appreciate you uh tell everybody your website how they can get a hold of you sure um you can go to the ultimatehum.com i have a VIP community there where all I do is just teach um I try to educate to inspire so that people will make a change so you can join my VIP community there i'll give you a a discount on joining the VIP community i'll send you a free box of H2 tabs uh for joining up the ultimatehum.com the podcast is the ultimate human and just my name Gary Bracka all right gary you're the man thank you brother appreciate you you're welcome all right bye everybody oh [Applause] [Music]