all right everybody welcome back to the Corey ganam show I am your host Corey ganam and we've got a fun episode this week because we've got a guest that uh is a little elusive in the sense that I've been on multiple podcasts with him before but I think this is the first time I've been able to time down for a one-on-one episode so the guest if you couldn't tell already it is Miles longr otherwise known as Flips For Miles he's someone who really helped me get into the space he is pretty much the face of online Arbitrage on social media a lot of you guys might have found me through him but on today's episode we are going to talk we're definitely going to talk about Amazon and some tactics and some tricks and whatnot as we always do but I want to dive more into the story of miles of Flips For Miles how he came to be Flips For Miles and everything that has kind of occurred in his life along the way because I think there's a lot to learn from his journey uh he's definitely one of the most driven people I've met by far the most like the hardest person working I've met I would probably say out of everybody I know which is and I know a lot of hardworking people so um someone I think we're going to have a really good conversation with here over the next 40 45 minutes or so so Miles thank you for joining me today man I'm looking forward to digging into your life more so just past the Amazon stuff right pass some other stuff we can talk about too cool hell yeah man thanks a lot excited to uh hop on and uh Jam because we' done a bunch of you know maybe four or five uh buybox Bandits episodes over the of two years or so that we've uh known each other and everything but first time on the CG show so it should be a a lot of fun and everything man I'm very excited yeah me too and so guys go back if you're listening to this on my channel on my podcast if you go back to episode it was I want to say 78 or 79 of back when we were calling it the Amazon wholesale podcast I did an episode with Miles and Garrett both of which host the buybox bandits podcast which if you're in the Amazon space that is an absolute must listen and I think that episode we did like a wholesale 101 kind of like an introduction to wholesale and that was great and we've done other like you said we've done other episodes on I think both my podcast and bybox bandits where Miu and Garrett the three of us kind of break down some usually some in-depth Amazon talk but yeah I'm excited to talk more than that today so to kind of get to dig in and kind of break the eye Smiles tell us a story about how did you get to this point right because I think a lot of people see you today we're in February or I guess March of 2025 you've got H like multiple hundreds of thousands of followers combined AC Ross all your social platforms you were one of the faces of selling on Amazon one of the bigger faces but how did you get here like what did every how did the story start even from childhood if you want to start there yeah so what I would say is where it actually starts is Christmas of 2010 I always really really like Legos kind of like my whole life basically but Christmas of 2010 I got this awesome Lego set and I I couldn't figure out how to put it together correctly like a couple things which is kind of weird because there are instructions but for whatever reason it just wasn't clicking um or it was God's intervention um and so I go on like the early internet on uh probably on Google but maybe on YouTube by that point and I looked up like Lego slave one like I just looked it up to see if anyone had been able to put it together and obviously people were and I pretty quickly like saw like wow like there's people like talking about uh building Legos and painting their own custom figurines and all this stuff online I was like holy crap like I've been kind of sitting here privately in fourth fifth and sixth grade you know doing this my own no one really knows that it's like one of my hobbies and everything and it was pretty cool to see like that online community form so uh and literally like the next day I made my first YouTube video with it like leg back in 2010 yep back in 2010 yeah so literally like I probably looked up looked up the videos on like the 25th or 26th and then had my first video out the 27th and um basically like honestly pretty quickly man it's it's so similar to what I recommend if people selling on Amazon honestly but like that week I'm pretty sure I'm I'm commenting on other people's stuff I'm getting comments and uh I'm on Skype with these people pretty quick talking about Legos and everything watching other people's videos making my own too a little bit um as well so that was like right at the start of right at the start of 201 end of 2010 basically and the next couple years I just really like immersed myself in the online Lego Community it's actually still going it was on this old website called flicker which Yahoo bought and destroyed they they made a bunch of weird updates to it so most people are tyly on Instagram and actually a couple of my friends still do it I'd say like probably like 20% of my core friend group is still in the game basically like literally like almost 15 years later at this point which is crazy to say basically but um so then from 2011 till um like 2014 is I like Legos were my whole life Legos and basketball pretty much and so what I would do is we would all plan the whole year and put together a big build we would make of like custom Legos no instructions or anything uh that we would all put put together at this big Lego convention in Washington DC every year which is still going on it's really really cool I'll probably go again in the next couple years basically but we would literally all year and that taught me a lot of delayed gratification about business and a lot of like collaboration stuff too because it was basically like we'd be sitting there in September knowing all well for a fact I'm not going to see any of my boys in person until August basically and we're gonna work on this we're gonna all put it together we're going to hide what it looks like sometimes post an occasional progress pick online basically and put those things together and so I did that 20 I went to the convention for the first time in 2012 and then met my my very very good friends pretty immediately from online because it's it's kind of like going to an Amazon conven you like you blck eyes of people you kind of know each other but with Legos it was all Anonymous like no one was posting pictures of each other so you only you only got to know the people that were making YouTube videos which is very few people I even stopped making YouTube videos I only did pictures actually there were two like kind of separate sides of the community base there's like the flicker side of things and the YouTube side of things and it was kind of like a silent r rivalry basically between them and so from 2012 to 2014 we we get better year-over year it's crazy how good people are at Legos these days because they made so many new colors and so many new pieces that like what you can do is so Advanced relative to what you could do back in the day and then so I I'd actually go to the convention every year from 2012 to 2018 and literally every year we put together a big thing um some people kind of come and go some people go to college get a little bit less into it and everything and it was a huge part of my life till like 2018 but in 2014 this is the key 2014 I'm I follow this kid from New York and he post Legos post Legos post Legos picture of shoes is this still on flicker or is this on this is on flicker yeah this is still on flicker so he's like it's like picture of Legos picture of shoes picture of Legos picture of shoes he comes to the convention I'm like dude like how are you uh you know how are you getting all this stuff and and he's like yeah I'm actually reselling them to be able to afford it so I actually have always I kind of left this out I should have mentioned it always loved the yard sale part of the convention and trading and bartering and taking someone's lunch money trading with them like knocking their head over a deal like because everyone's trading and I'm shipping checks to people um you know I'm building up my Rec reputation so people ship first to me and then I ship it to them because I have a little bit of a personal brand now in Lego space and so he's like yeah it's kind of like what we're doing with Legos it just there's a lot more money into it so now he and I'm I have a decent amount of clout in the Lego space I'm getting stuff for free sometimes from some of the companies the sponsorship here and there I'm dapping people up at the conventions and everything when I'm like 15 and everyone's pretty young too like pretty much I bet I was going to say I bet everybody I just had a feeling most people in the space probably are on the younger side yeah mostly under 30 but there's a ton of people that that are really really good at it that are like 30 40 50 plus because they have the they have the financial resources to make like some crazy stuff so not only are they really good like because it is an art form I I'll totally say it's an art form um but they also have like the resource to put like really cool stuff together and they've had a while to build up the correct pieces and everything so a project to them is way less expensive than a project to me because they already have pieces from stuff they put together in the past for past shows sure basically um and so he immediately steals 500 bucks from me scams me twice it was completely my fault completely my fault I trusted him but he immediately scams me for 500 bucks is best 500 bucks I ever spent best 500 bucks I ever spent that that like taught me a ton to like really make sure no one's finessing you or anything everybody yeah yeah but he immediately steals 500 bucks from me basically like sold me fake shoes which was my fault for like not recognizing it but whatever right and so I started doing that and uh 2014 2015 2016 I'm in high school I'm doing it here and there get a little bit more serious about it in 2018 or 2017 and start doing Outlets I was previously just doing Facebook groups which is brutal because you got to follow up with people like crazy you got to make new posts like crazy people are getting scammed all all over the place um and everything and then two weeks before I go to college uh basically two weeks before I go to college my mom is like all right so like when are you getting rid of all these shoes man like you're going to college soon like You're Gonna Leave This behind and I was like no I'm gonna bring them to the dorm with you like obviously Mom right and so I do that and luckily I had a super cool roommate so super cool roommate who was cool with me having a ton of shoes obviously on my side of the room basically and so um that happens 2017 start selling a little bit more really really big inflection point is we weren't allowed to have cars on campus as freshmen but one of my homies had a car so he would drive me to the post office and we we would go to lunch every day basically so I I have the means to ship the prodct now right and you're selling these are you selling these on where are you selling these shoes at this point so stockx and goat actually I should have mentioned that it evolved from Facebook groups to eventually stockx and goat because the pig big thing with stockx and goat is that you don't have to there there's no communication it's there's heavy leverage on it and then you could sell something in your sleep you can sell something without messaging without having to follow people back it's a safe process they authenticate it right so that's a big thing so 2017 I learned about goat and stockx so I pick up the pace a little bit more and my homies have the car right now the problem is uh I had an awesome friend group freshman year and like three out of like the seven people transferred and it was kind of like two of the three were like my best friends in the friend basically so they transfer but now I got the whip because I I had a car sophomore year and I I start hitting Outlet heavily in 2018 and really start to learn the process I make a couple good friends on sneaker Instagram but the key is I don't have my page on sneaker Instagram which is crazy ironic right because I'm the guy telling now right but back in the day all my friends have like 5K 10K or a couple thousand followers on their sneaker Instagram and I'm the one who's Anonymous right I'm the one who's dming from the personal page which is super ironic right but I'm learning from them they're like some of the big bigger guys in the shoe bace like that are making a couple thousand bucks a month profit I'm probably making like thousand bucks a month profit but I'm having a great time I love love doing it like same exact same thing as uh as trading Legos in 2012 and 2013 and everything exact same thing um but a little bit more money involved with it right and then um basically because my friends transferred I got unlimited free time now so I unlimited free time I my roommate wasn't like one of my best friends he was he was still a good guy but I got unlimited free time so now I'm driving an hour to the outlets every every weekend right I'm driving an hour to the outlets every weekend and that hour um I can either listen to music or I'm getting a little bit more into business I'm starting to get hit by ads I'm starting to get hit by Amazon FBA courses I'm like damn it oh here we go right here we go there there's people selling stuff that's not shoes there's someone that like when when I when my mom gets something on Amazon it's not from just Amazon themselves I'm like holy crap right I always thought that too that was a big thing like one of the big eye openening early moments for me was that like wait I thought everything I bought on Amazon is from Jeff Bezos so sorry continue no no definitely man I it was the exact same way right so I got a ton of free time now because my homies my uh homies are gone basically I I only go out like once the whole s or like once or twice the whole sophomore year basically I'm going to the outlets every weekend I'm getting more product and now like I'm fully in the mix like I get starting to get by Amazon ads I'm following more people on um sneaker Instagram which morphs into reselling Instagram which morphs into Amazon Instagram so now I'm getting exposed to a lot of different stuff I remember watching a ton of like Gary ve videos gr Cardone videos back in the day Gary ve was kind of always who I like the best yeah talk about resung too and I like really relate to that basically and so um he he is like really really starting to talk about like personal branding a couple teachers I liked from high school they're recommending me books now I'm reading the Rich Dad Poor Dad um four hour work week everyone kind of reads that too soon but I read that too soon yeah me too um and then Gary Vee's book from back in the day uh Gary from back of the day yeah which was a recommendation by reezy actually yes it was a recommendation by rezy so I was watching Avery reezy uh Steve Rick and all those guys talking about Amazon stuff but I I don't really start yet because I start to get good at reselling shoes I have like a 3K profit month Q4 of 2018 and then a 4K profit month Q4 of 2018 or as a college as a college kid like that's so much money like that's how much I would make in the entire summer usually like pressure washing driveways In the Heat of the summer right yeah oh dude for sure and what I liked about uh what I liked about shoes was that like you you your money was very tied to your effort and I I had only ever the most I ever made at a job my whole life was nine bucks an hour 925 for that and I actually had jobs I liked but the the bread was too the bread was too I actually did decently like the jobs I had um which was like giv tours gave tours in high school gave tours in college and then was a cam counselor all of those are actually really chill jobs they just pay really really low basically so um during that those Q4 times because I'm going to the outlet two three times a week so I'm on the road like six hours a week by myself nothing to do don't really have a ton of like great friends at school but people are always interested in what I'm doing a little bit right people always asking questions um and I'm I'm learning about other people I was super well connected without having a like tied in Social Circle basically I was cross guys cool with the soccer like I was pretty much I was kind of in the mix because I didn't have like a there was no Greek life in college there's no Greek life no off- campus housing so it was like a school where there was very little partying which in the hindsight was a very big blessing like a lot of people were mad about it but I appreciate yeah for you it was a good point for most people most people probably wouldn't like it yeah exactly so right so I'm I'm driving around doing these Outlets uh having a lot of fun and then I read Gary Vee's book crushed and I'm like damn man he's so right like I had a Lego personal brand in like 2011 like why don't I start doing that for shoes right and so 2019 I I'm like what am I going to name it I was like all right FL for Miles sounds pretty good um and so I do that and then uh basically that was when I started my Ig page in uh 2019 um January 2019 fli miles and then I'm still only doing shoes I get really sidetracked and stop like Outlets dried up a little bit but I started selling a lot of used shoes because I kind of got shiny object syndrome around what people were talking about on IG because no one really talking about the the outlets as much right it's a little bit more scarce so people are kind of keeping that to the chest a little bit more and so that whole sophomore year goes by and I'm just doing my thing with alet selling some us shoes now too um as well and then I this was such a bad idea man I have no idea why but oh I know it was actually required so it was so I started making money online a little bit and then I realized that I really would just was not thinking I was going to have job ever right so I like all right man how could I get out of college earlier how can I give myself a six-month Head Start Right In terms like you know being an entrepreneur full-time and right so I I concoct this plan where I I had a required internship that I had to do at some point one of so most people did it the summer before senior year which would have been 2020 for me but I did it the summer of 2019 and I did it where I lived in my college town pretty much by myself for like half the time so I had unlimited free time man to resell and to learn and everything so that's when I like got really serious and eventually started doing Amazon but the problem was back in the day you know you know better than anyone from being around back then right is like you know online Arbitrage was seen as like this crazy thing that like you do once your account has a crap ton of sales from books which we know now know in Hinds it's not the case right um so I'm not even considering doing online Arbitrage like absolutely that's that's why like I started selling on Amazon in 2019 but I started doing online Arbitrage in 2021 and those are such incredibly different spheres basically I'm thinking I I talk about online Arbitrage primarily right like books was a great way to learn for free but it was because I didn't have much money right so I I start doing Used Books in uh 2019 basically and uh dude I that's what I I think is so funny because like I did like, 1500 bucks my second month grind it really more than most people yeah but I mean I feel like most people who start with books they'll do like 50 bucks their first month or like you know but I want to compare it to people starting these days yeah which like that's like I'll have students all the time they'll be like dude like what am I gonna post about like I I did three grand my second month and I'm like dude I did less than that my second month like damn near working on it full-time because my internship finished early right right so I'm grinding I do but but the key here now that now the key through all this is that I'm grinding on books making pretty much no money but I'm documenting like crazy so being you know my bio was like college kid and entrepreneur whatever uh 20 years old like on on a mission to make the world a better place something like that like and I'm I'm out there man I'm like I'm giv my I did exactly what Gary ve said or at least my best of it is I just listened to what he said and they're like dude like if you put stuff out there people are gonna come people are gonna help you you're gonna find people who think like you and it it went so much better than I expected that you know I would you know I did like I remember in August of 2019 I did the 2,000 book challenge I didn't even make it to it yeah but like I uh Avery RoR had me on his YouTube for a video like and I like he asked me to do the video right I didn't pay anything for that and then I got a bunch of followers from it right and now people are giving me tips I'll I'll post something on my story and like someone who's been in the game five years will swipe up like dude you're doing that wrong and I'm like yeah do it this way like helping yeah right dude so and I didn't pay any money for it right not pay any money for it right so like now in 2019 I'm doing I'm doing books I'm doing books I'm doing books I don't really do much shoes anymore I like the Amazon community a lot better and I was like all right I'm gonna make a little bit less doing books rather than shoes on stockx and goat because I see Amazon's a bigger opportunity and I like like the people who do best in shoes like they don't live the life that I want to live they're like going to conventions like tattoos all over the place they're partying and then the Amazon guys are like probably honestly in say making more money but living like a more calm life like I would kind of like to and everything right just like normal people I remember one of the best one of I think this is the first tweet I ever bookmarked because I just thought it was so funny and it was somebody it was just so simple somebody was like you know you start selling on Amazon and next thing you know you're on Zoom at 1:00 am with a you know a high school chick a retired army vet and some kid who's in college like halfway across the country right like you're just with the most random mix of people but everybody's cool and everybody's just like normal people right everything good in my life has come from random people on the internet yeah so true everything good besides my family every single thing good in my life that currently right like I had a bunch of cool stuff with basketball and everything everything good currently in my life came as a result of random people on the internet right so fall of 2019 I'm cooking along doing books right and then here here's a good one here so every now and again right I still have my personal IG page and I'm I'm grinding the flips from miles one every now and again I'll toss up a story on my personal Instagram page right of uh every now and again I'll sprinkle one in I don't really really want people to know but I'll sprinkle one in the the club soccer teams getting annoyed for me asking for all their textbooks and everything right and uh I get a DM from one Wi-Fi astronaut oh yeah I see you're selling books that looks cool here's I'd love for you to show me how something like that but here's the here's the thing I already ordered the scanner now I've heard that 50 times already he's actually committed exactly so now Danny and I start grinding on books together he actually gets a warehouse really quick but and then I I think I do like my biggest month ever with books was probably like 10K in January of 2020 but then the problem is now covid hits right so it's it's really tough to get inventory so I'm like all right back to what I know best the shoe Market's going crazy with the stimulus right so now um the shoe Market's going crazy with the stimulus so now I'm back doing shoes and everyone on like so I get right back with my community basically from shoes from back in the day I still talk to him pretty much that whole time but now I'm like seriously back in it right and so I'm not only focused on shoes though I'm learning about the credit card rewards game I'm learning about the selling on Amazon game I'm learning about online Arbitrage and everything too not just focused on shoes when all my shoe guys are only focused on shoes so they're like flexing the BMW they just bought like with like gigantic piles of shoes and I'm like still doing my Amazon page but it's mainly about shoes so I'm like taking videos with stuff people like dudee like what are you doing like why are you creating competition like and and looking back reasonably that makes full well very well good sense to say right but um the key is like some some of the huge shoe guys they start like hiring me in their Discord to like run the credit card section to give tips on like how to get approved and the best bonuses and everything because I just like like learning that gram Stef and YouTube videos and everything and I they kind of knew I was a good guy because they got to know me asymmetrically through my page and everything and I'm in I'm in the circle it's in the group chats a little bit but they're making way more money than me by the way too yeah right but that was big and now like um I joined the the really expensive group I might sell a lifetime membership for a thousand here and there through IG get some 500 bucks free cash flow on the affiliate game so I'm not just making money through reselling shoes right I'm doing that and then also I start to learn about money Twitter at this point I see like Chris Johnson and some of the old school like Big Money Twitter guys basically and um start getting on there and and Twitter especially back then really started to open up my mind it's like damn there's people making money with affiliate marketing what's that there's people making money with Drop Shipping what's that right there's people making money with an agency what's that so now I got I'm reselling shoes but I also got all this free time and I'm reading stuff on Twitter like crazy I probably bought like 20 courses that that year but they're all like 15 bucks like do sales sell ebooks yes there there this stuff was so cheap back in the day so I uh I actually I start to look into selling Facebook ads as a service and I join this dude's Facebook group and he sells Facebook ads to medspas and so I copied his I copied his offer I copied the ads and everything because you can see you can see what ads are run right on Facebook ads Library so I started like selling some thousand bucks a month retainers and everything start to get some free cash flow with that um honestly put in a ton of time into that never really made more than like three grand a month profit with it but I mean dude like I pretty good for somebody College full time too yeah so I'm doing college classes and everything so I'm making like five grand a month probably probably made like 50K in 2020 total profit which is like dude like I was like a college kid again that's a lot of money like a lot for someone who's in college yeah and and like it was more so it's like all right after this next semester fall of 2020 I'm gonna get all my time back too right I remember I was so hyped when they cancelled in inperson classes because I was like H dude it's over now like I I go just gotta do online class I can do the business stuff all day right so that's why I spend this the the winter of 20 20 doing and interestingly enough dude I probably made more money in uh Q4 of 2018 compared to Q4 of 2020 it was probably pretty close really why is that though uh well just Outlets were so lit back in the day right and it I had because fewer people were doing them uh yeah probably I would say probably fewer people and then there was this there was this Adidas outet I would go to that no one would go to it was in like a really small part of Pennsylvania that was super untapped and I think that was a big component of it too um as well but probably the same or or a little bit less right right but now so I finished college right and uh major major Co lockdown due to family members being sick basically right and not so I'm like super chilling at the crib never leaving the crib or anything like that and um basically we have this good group chat of like couple Amazon guys couple shoe guys kind of all the guys that were building their personal brand or or at least I would realize we're cool in the DMS and we just put a group chat together all these young kids I think I think it's actually still going really are you still in it yeah oh no no no no um just it I just like kind of saw it as a distraction honestly or at least I thought it was a distraction um basically but it was all just like a free group of like all these young kids I talked to a bunch of them still today and uh like Carter Maxwell he's a great guy WiFi astronaut obviously too Garrett for sure um Cody marcar ton of guys right um and so they're doing Amazon stuff and I think it was because I was never leaving the house I just had time to be in so many groups and many spaces I I think that was it so like I'm talking to the shoe guys I'm talking to Amazon guys I'm talking to like a bunch of eBay reselling guys and I start to see these guys popping off on Amazon like crazy I'm like damn like how are they doing that right what about like the ungating thing and then um eventually like I see a tweet how to get Nike ungated a tweet how to get Beauty ungated how to get toys unated I'm like damn like dude I I still got my Amazon account I'm selling like one book every other day right um Let me let me go and plug in I have all these shoes sitting next to me right I have all these shoes sitting next to me let me plug in and see if I can get any of this stuff on gated see if these guys are telling the truth right boom I do it right and I list some Adidas shoes I list some Under Armour shoes some Nike stuff right and it's it's moving and I didn't even buy it for Amazon so I don't know what a sales rank is I have no idea how to read keep but I got shoes in the closet they're they're moving they're not moving quick but I just gotten out of college I still had a I had all this free time I'm making 3 to 5K a month profit with a bunch of things affiliate a little bit of a agency stuff she reselling for sure like very very very kind of spread bunch of different yeah bunch of different stuff here right and so basically um do start selling some shoes here here and there on Amazon I don't know how to do anything but talk about what I'm doing on the internet right so now like I'm posting about selling Legos on Amazon selling shoes on Amazon your DM start to fill up a little bit more because no one else posts on the internet let's be honest very very few people do yeah uh you go in any city in America one out of a hundred people has the self-esteem to take a selfie video of them and post on the internet all the opportunity goes to the people that do for the most part if we're right Clos closed mouths don't get fed in America right period opportunity goes to those who give themselves a chance to capture it right and so uh now I'm starting to get a little bit more traction on IG I probably got like 5K followers or so right and I'll get some comments on some pictures here and there and I'm watching some Gary ve videos he's like how dare you not respond to every comment I'm like have I been have I been responding to every one of my comments and I look I'm like no I'm like oh crap okay Gary here you go I'm not just gonna respond to every comment I'm gonna message and introduce myself to them that's probably not step further and guess who guess who was that person on that same day at one of those comments Garrett oh really I was gonna say I was gonna guess it's so beautiful I I love this story right and so I'm like dude like and and the key here too is Garrett gets to know me through my page I go to Garrett's page immediately and I'm like damn this dude shipping out pallets how's he good enough to ship out pallets already right he started his page a month ago or something like that right and then we get on Zoom maybe that day Garrett Garrett's brother and I'm like hey can my friend Wii can can my friend FBA Danny come to he went to high school with me I promise he's cool right and that's who Danny is Right wifi now and uh he just starts uh like Garrett blesses me like blesses me he's showing me all this stuff that I had no idea how to do because I'm I'm in my first month of OA by the way right very very new right and he just puts me on game Left Right Center boom bang all of it right so we make a group chat of me Danny Garrett Garrett's brother and then our friend Jake too who's a beast who you should totally have on as well I mean behind the scenes but he probably would right and so I found it man I've been doing Instagram for two years in a row I I've been messing around playing around with business stuff I'm thinking 10K a month I need it there's some way I'm going to go ahead and do it I'm I'm writing it down in the journal I've spent a ton of time watching YouTube videos of people talking about this stuff and um now it feels right dud like Amazon stuff's cooking I literally I'm pretty sure I I didn't work on the agency a single day after I met Garrett I'm pretty sure as you shouldn't right like you you found a what turned out to be a game changer of a connection it's like you just went deep with that person as you and the big thing too was it was fun I was doing the agency stuff because I felt like I had to make money I was selling shoes because I felt like I had to make money although shoes was a little bit more fun but Amazon is a blast man like I I'm pretty sure like the first month I knew and maybe the first week Garrett facetimed me and woke me up and we bought a lead together right yeah I love that was amazing man it's still it's like I love all those guys today obviously our whole friend group right and so I just like found my calling basically with online Arbitrage and then Co gets a little bit better start doing Retail Arbitrage as well 6K rev first month 30k rev second month six grand in profit I'm like damn man all right maybe I'm not going to have to get a job after all yeah right and then uh basically May of 21 I go on vacation and I'm doing all fbm at this time and the end and this is where and my sales go to zero right my sales go to zero ship anything out right yeah besides the occasional book right because I can't ship anything out I'm sourcing still though right and so I'm like all right man now I got to start doing FBA so I start doing FBA in June 50k rev 9k profit like damn I'm I'm knocking on the door of that 10K month profit man that's what all the guys on Twitter were telling me I had to get to otherwise I was poor right and obviously that's not true but you get the idea right they that's what they were saying I believe right and then uh July of 2022 I do like 60k but I'm buying heavy on stuff now so I'm buying 100 Balls 200 balls of different stuff and I'm I'm making more money but I'm not really putting in much more time right I thought that was cool right because you just buy heavier right but only when you have a proven system right which was awesome and then uh basically so like yeah like that was that was really when I started putting all my focus and like online Arbitrage and books are completely different business models you know what I mean like so I'll talk about online like my first year selling on Amazon did a million like my first year like moving away like that's so different than books you know I mean it's completely different right it's like that first year I do like a million in sales I think like 1.02 right and uh basically I go to the first ever Miami sellers conference first time you all my boys in person we pick up Warner from the airport it's so fun man oh my gosh right but but I'm still mainly FBA at this or mainly fbm at this time right so I do the first two weeks of August like very very low very very low sales right but I'm going to Amazon Seller comps and I'm like I'm walking by all these people I see online I'm like that guy does 100K a month guy sold 4 million last year like like you know uh he's overweight or whatever you know what I mean like he nothing on me right he got nothing on me right he might just be a little bit older he might just been been uh in the game a little biter I remember one of the ogs in this told me he made over a million dollars a year in profit I'll remember that day the rest of my life I remember that day the rest of my life he was like I make over a million a year in profit I was like oh my God I was like dude I'm I'm I think I can hit 100K profit this year um and then then that was in I still only made like 40 Grand year to date or something like that like low but like you know 10K here and there NK month poor probably like halfway to there right and so I get back in the middle of August back to school is kicking off people are like talking about back to school I'm like uh like I'm going hit that hard and then I turn on my listings and and do like 10K in one day the first week back from back to school and I'm like in profit you're saying or in Revenue oh in sales in sales but like profit right yeah so still that's incredible again especially being the age that you are too like seeing that that's possible oh well it was Miami Star Wars conference show me that man Miami s conference it it showed me that like crazy right so we get on and uh we're grinding I'm I'm running all over eastern Pennsylvania doing pickup orders I'm going and doing pick up orders of Dick Sporting Goods then driving into the post office and fbm in the prods they're not even coming to the crib right they're not even coming to the crib and so I do like 100k in sales in just two weeks that first back to school because Miami sarcom it's expanded my capabilities like crazy I was like dude like because you you can go you can just go do stuff and that's what being an entrepreneur teaches you to do is that like you're holding you back no one's no one's breathing down your neck there's some rules on Amazon you gotta you gotta abide by them obviously but like dude like nothing stopping you from going out and hitting every grocery out in your state except you right right it would be pretty impossible to not make money doing like you can take violent action man you can go you can go do stuff like crazy right like a normal day for me now like me three years ago would would have been terrified of like damn you're gonna do that many calls you're gonna spend that much of whatever right you're gonna make you're gonna get on you're gonna make videos like all all that stuff you're going to have people helping you out with it virtual assistance all that I would have seemed so overwhelmed but this stuff teaches you what you're capable of because not only does being being in the game more gives you more exposure you also realize more what you're capable of your hourly rate grows your hourly output rate grows Etc so that first 100K month taught me a ton I made like 15 grand profit a th bucks a day and profit two weeks in a row averaged out right and then back to school ends fbm volume plummets right so I bless you family right and then I and then I feel like I I like haven't told any of these stories so long no I love it this is so good because I feel like I haven't heard half of these before so this okay cool all right good then okay I I'll keep rambling um and everything so yeah so fbm volume plummets right and I'm like all right I gotta learn I gotta start doing FBA seriously now right I gotta start doing FBA seriously now and you remember when storage capacity limits were a huge issue yeah I remember it was really when it first got bad I think was like March of 2020 and I remember it vividly that being the month because we had just sent a huge shipment from one of the first brand direct account that we ever worked with straight to Amazon and they literally shipped it out the day before Amazon hit us with the storage capacity limit so we had already paid for the inventory we' already sent the labels everything we sent it out basically with 12 hours to spare before Amazon said hey we're slashing your limits anything that's inbound or anything that's already at Amazon is fine but we couldn't send in anym for a while so if it wasn't like for that timing we would have been screwed but yeah I remember that very well yeah and so that sustained into 2021 like especially Q4 of 2021 and that still is a problem for some people every Q4 but you got to really be aggressively scaling for it to be an issue um and then so I got I switch back to FBA I dip a little bit low for September I think I do like 95 or something like that right and then October relatively similar right and I remember I would I would like repic down just to sell stuff a little bit lower to get more storage slots available and like every Monday I would pray that my storage limits would go up and and every Monday I think it was every morning Monday morning it would refresh and Warner G and I would all type oh I'm friends Warner and I connect now too he's he's all in the friend group all in the zoom calls everything right as are a bunch of other guys too awesome friend group right and then ironically the cool thing is pretty much everyone's still in the game today which makes it really fun as well because everyone's grown there's so much trust we're working on these different projects together too sell our an box them and everything right and then so November hits and I'm still I'm hobbling along filling up these stor slots FBA but now the fbm machine turns on again so I I start going crazy once again on the pickup orders and um do like uh 220k in sale so like 35 Grand profit um which was awesome and then Black Friday hits and I remember calling uh Dylan saw who's actually one of my best friends now in person in Miami uh when he was like 15 he did 70k in one day on Black Friday I did like 20 and I'm like damn I thought I was doing something um meanwhile he didn't even have his permit much less his Li nothing right yeah I think I think he was I think in Georgia you could have I I don't remember but regardless um and then so uh we just sores in the friend group we're all sour and Legos and stuff together and then December I do like 300 uh and like 55 grand profit and get a we get a warehouse together in Delaware with Garrett and uh start the buy box Bandits and it's kind of been the rest's history since then but that was like the the the kind of key component that I see with all of this is like um my biggest takeaway is that you just cannot solely rely on the people you just happen to be happen to find in real life right you can't limit yourself to that you have to find people online you you just have to take advantage of it because you're competing against people like Corey who's giving himself tons of exposure to people on the internet if you're someone that's only getting like only getting exposed to people in your local environment you're just at such a disadvantage right that I just got so much free help over the years by being available to get it by being in the mix right by by doing my best to have a seat at the table right and that's yeah right exactly right and that like you know I mean you know this really well now you know if someone slides into your DMs you look at their profile Y and anous first thing right and that could be For Better or Worse that's how it is right and so the person who's Anonymous and has seven pictures and they're a private profile and they're uh they have something about weed in their bio they get a worse response than 19-year-old flips from miles does every single time especially because you're right it's like the well really the first thing I look at is the question right first thing I look at is the question and if the question isn't completely brain dead then maybe I will click through to their profile right the issue is a lot of times the question is hey how do I start and then it's like I'm not even going to take the time to click on this guy's profile because he hasn't even put in the bare minimum level of effort required to perform a Google Search right so I mean what you're saying is completely true and also like you talk about meeting random people on the internet miles guess how many calls I've had today it's 445 p.m. on a Monday with random people on the internet that this is a first time networking meeting today how many how many have I had today uh four to five like a good seven and I have one I have one more one more at 7M so today just Monday eight total calls with complete strangers that I've never met before in my entire life because I want to build more connections and you know break into a new industry and collaborate with other people that you're right it doesn't matter if they're not here locally or if you don't really know them it's all about putting yourself out there and a lot of times like you said you just got to ask and and you can get in the room and miles one point of that has kind of been the recurring theme of like everything that you've talked about so far over the course of this podcast like the recurring theme with you in your life and I think one of the reasons why you've been the well probably the main reason you've been the most successful is is just complete complete lack of hesitation around taking action like and that was so pre that was so clear from the even the beginning of the story you're like it's 2010 I find a YouTube video about Legos two 48 hours later I posted my first YouTube video talking about Legos like if that's not just action taking to the next level I don't know what is same thing with when you start getting into shoes oh yeah I started an Instagram and for two years straight and now I guess it's been six years straight you've been posting about what you're doing and documenting and talking about everything that you're doing I mean that's really what it takes it's just not being hesitant you know not hesitating at all and a couple of the people for example that I've talked to today as part of those networking calls I could tell they're newer to business they're like well yeah I've been taking so and so's course for the last three months and I'm kind of just now starting to jump in and those people just aren't going to win right like it's usually pretty easy for us to tell within a couple of seconds whether somebody's cut out for business or whether they're not and the most defining feature is yeah how quickly are they taking action or are they someone who's going to sit around and think they need to take the next course before they are finally ready so I think there's so much to learn from your story and I love it now that brings us into March of 2025 where you take the last six years of that effort that you put in and it's compounded to the tune of what you've got about a 100,000 followers on Instagram you've got about last I looked I think 60s something thousand on Twitter on YouTube You're approaching I think 85,000 Subs um and where are you on Tik Tok how big is a Tik Tok audience dude I I love Tik Tok for the discoverability of the live streams but probably maybe uh three or 4 thousand or I don't know but people show out to the live streams and they ask good questions so I'm happy to have it on while I'm solo streaming on uh on YouTube as well but the in the takeaway there for me right I mean like you said you've been building an audience on social media for 6 years and you know some people would say like oh you just now hit 100k right when in reality people get six months into posting and they're like why don't I have a million followers right and it's like well because you haven't either provided enough value or you're just not good enough yet right but you've been giving giving giving for so long that's why when people have questions or they think of online Arbitrage you you're usually the first person that comes to mind you are warner uh as far as I can tell so that's just a good testate to like building that brand overtime hitting it hard every day like not taking days off that's one thing that I know you don't do like how many days in a row at this point Have You written a Twitter thread without missing a day what's your stre yeah I'll probably stop soon but I like it as just like it keeps me kind of making sure I'm doing stuff every day but like almost three years actually like uh almost three years and and some are better than others obviously but I I just think personally like for me it's just so much easier to do something every day rather than like three times a week part of the day I don't know why and that that could be a character flaw for that matter too I'm just like it just kind of is what it is basically so you said you've written a thread every single day for over three years on Twitter haven't missed a day haven't missed a day and sometimes I will post it at like 11:50 though for example you will because you'll send it to the group like no days off and it's like 11m yeah never never never I I'm not missing that and so the cool thing is that actually came from this uh this group that I joined these guys called clein Ascension on Twitter actually I've learned a ton from those guys over the years but I I was in their group and they're they are phenomenal by the way too it's mainly for B2B people but I kind of joined it for like more like infom marketing side of things yeah and so I joined their group and they had this challenge I forget what you got honestly I think it was just like a just like kind of gamifying the program basically and it was do one Twitter thread a day and I think like four or five people made it a bunch of people started it but one of the other guys that uh made it the whole way has like a massive personal brand in the Ecom space actually too not on Amazon as much but uh it was pretty cool how like I think that was kind of his jump start too for taking things a little bit more seriously and uh that's how I that's how I built my Twitter I mean we you know when I started and I could certainly tell the story of how I got started on Twitter and how I met you but I mean that's really how I built the bulk of my following on Twitter was every day for I think I did like 400 something days straight a thread for for that long and back when I was actually it's crazy I was looking at my analytics I went into tweet Hunter and I was looking at my Twitter analytics and back it was like end of 20 or no it was sorry beginning of 2020 or sorry mid 2023 late 2023 for whatever reason I don't know if Amazon was just really popular at the time or if the algorithm was just favoring us or what but there was one point where every single thread you and I posted it was like if it got less than a 100 likes it was a bad thread it was I'll put everyone on some game on when but it's crazy because I looked at the analytics Smiles I swear to God there was like a literal like Breaking Point like drop off it was like I was getting 20 to 30 new followers a day consistently every day for like 100 days straight and then it's like it fell off a cliff it had to be an algorithm change because this was like it was like something shifted right and nothing changed about what we were writing about we were still doing a thread a day all this stuff but what's your opin like what are your thoughts you said you you're about to you un inflection point that you notice yeah well so for a game for anyone who wants to make content the most important days of the year for making content are the week after Christmas yeah we had some threat I remember specifically some like we were going crazy then yeah yeah cuz I remember at my mom's I was in my mom's house like upstairs in my old room like on the laptop yeah it's like 10: p.m. and I'm like [ __ ] I got to write a thread today you got it right and I remember I kind of like half asked it and it was some actually I think it one in particular I remember it was over like Thanksgiving break and it was just a whole thread of just all my lead magnets it was just one big self-promotion like here's all my free resources but it got like it got like 150,000 Impressions like 300 like it popped off like I couldn't believe it I'm like what it was something something about the algorithm at the time was just either loving us or loving algorithm or or loving Amazon but that was just a fun time and yeah I mean writing is such a good skill to learn too especially if you want to build your brand I feel like some people are better on video some people are better writers but just find the strength which everyone you're better at and kind of lean into that and you can become you become it you know through iteration and repetition GS anyone can feel free to scroll back to 2019 my Instagram you will see a very different person on camera very very different person on camera yeah I mean me too go look at my YouTube right from beginning of 2023 I was super monotone I was super I mean I still you know I'm not the best but I'm getting I've gotten so much better yeah I've gotten so much better so it's just like anything it's a skill you know you practice it you get better over time all this stuff yeah bro college is four years for a reason colleg is four years for a reason right I'm like seen as some like Guru guy when I'll scream from the heavens about how you have to do this for a while to be successful at it you have to work with most of the time you have to work with like like-minded people to do it you can't expect them to work quick right it's it's something you commit to for the long term right in that you know if you want if your goal is to be an unsuccessful Amazon Seller right I would hang out with no Amazon sellers I would do it for a month and expect to be really successful I would uh be shocked when I got denied for on Gates right you know and I would try to do whole seller private label from day one you know what I mean right right and I I definitely would only rely on the people in my life that have gotten me to this far which statistically zero of them are interested in selling on Amazon right and I would definitely not find cool people to work with for free right any other words words of wisdom there yeah it would become pretty unreasonable that you wouldn't you know make some progress on your goals and everything too and and that that I would say is like not just for Amazon or anything like that it's just like life in general in 20125 man don't rely on the people in real or don't choose to solely rely on the people in real life like there's people out there all the way on the internet you can find a niche Community for anything right and and connect with people over stuff right and it's uh literally every single day now since I moved to Miami I'll hang out with people from Twitter and hang out with people from Instagram and uh it's really a blast because they're like so much more tailored kind of like you know a lot of people have like convenience friends and the more you get online the less that you have and that just kind of like helps you move quicker with different projects and make progress to your goals faster because you tend to be hanging out with people that either have what you want or want what you want and you're the people in your life determine the results you get firmly believe that yeah well it's the quote right that everybody's heard a million times it's super cliche but it's true it's you're the average of The Five People You spend the most time with and if if I'm sure we have a lot of Amazon sellers listening and I've said this before to kind of tailor that quote to the Amazon space your Amazon sales are the average of the five sellers you spend the most time with I mean it's a fact right oh man that's a tweet right there go steal that most people listening to this have never talked another Amazon Seller right or they don't know another Amazon seller has never seen your face another Amazon seller has never heard your voice and you know that's not necessarily like a bad thing you're just going to struggle compared to the people that are doing that right and that's an uncomfortable thing and and making money is an uncomfortable thing too right and that we can all agree that you know the the kid in high school that hung out with the most basketball players compared to the kid that hang out with the least basketball players the kid who hung out the most was better at basketball he was he had a seat at the table he was getting plugged in on different tips he was getting plugged in on different opportunities right and it's the same thing with uh with selling on Amazon right and that the guy the guy who's in the group chat he gets plugged in on the restocks yes pluged in on the nuances he knows what sites order cancel in advance right he knows he might get plugged in on a wholesale opportunity quicker right and and just it's just the reality of things and that's a very empowering thing because what we have to understand or at least kind of what like really believe in is that business models don't fail people fail right business models don't succeed people succeed and that is not my quote whatsoever by the way but I really really believe in it I really really believe in it and that's an Empower thing it's not that it didn't work for you you didn't work on it right and because if you did it for 10 years it would probably work really really well exactly right you know and that it's uh it's cool right and you're absolutely right on the whole algorithm side of things and that like uh the algorithm was liking Amazon content a lot better you know a year and a half two years ago but if you stick around you'll be in it when the algorithm likes Amazon content more and you'll be better too exact and you'll do it more because you realized how easy it was when it was easy you know no all very good points and talking about you know the business model doesn't fail the person does I mean it's it's spoton we see it all the time I mean there are people out there we know that are still drop shipping and I would argue that Drop Shipping is a terrible business model but there's some really smart people who do it and therefore they do it well right they make a lot of money doing it I mean if you've got the skill set it doesn't really matter what it is that you do just do something and then you can always graduate over time if at one point you decide oh well maybe this business model or maybe this particular thing I've been doing for a while isn't the best use of my time anymore now I'm going to go do something else well you're probably going to be successful doing that other thing because of everything that you learn doing the first thing right so so much to learn from that very good wise words from uh you know still a guy who's in his young 20s but who's been around the block in terms of business long honestly longer than most and significantly more successful than most entrepreneurs ever will be too so yeah another uh another point on like the business model hopping thing is that like I I would love to see the statistics sorry to interrupt but I would love to see the statistics on like uh the average uh of someone who makes it to like year three of having a business like how long they end up being an entrepreneur for and how many different businesses they have over time it to the same statistic of like someone who has a job right because a problem a lot of people run into when they start like Retail Arbitrage for example is like the people in their life that statistically most likely have jobs and there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever right but they see it they're like they kind of equate it more to like something that you just do and it's just kind of like what you do right and not something that you allow to consume your life which is a great thing when you're a business owner because you you make progress a lot quicker and they also equate it that it's something you're going to do for a while and that I'll make it very clear like no one should your Retail Arbitrage forever agreed agreed there's Amazon business models alond Arbitrage wholesale priv lab that are significantly better but they also take significantly more money they also have more risk in the term of wholesale and priv label hard to learn learning curve yeah yeah facts right that I don't think people should start with private label but I think a lot of people should finish with private label y right I think like software is awesome too we do software with Sal and boxing but I I think it's a great business model but I think someone on day one of doing business it's a horrible idea for them to start something you need a bunch of money somebody knows how to code multiple people know how to code a whole bunch of different connection stuff but you know I wouldn't have told you even like when I graduated college like literally like about a year and a half later I had part or I have partial ownership of sellan right which I've you know I remember when we announced that and everything which is almost three years ago at this point but literally like all of that like Warner and I got that opportunity because we gave ourselves the chance to right now we have the opportunity to do box them as well right and show people uh and create a good listing tool for people and you know we're adding analytics and everything too and all that came from just having a chance and just having a seat at the table and what I love about having learned and seeing people do the same kind of after me is that you don't like you don't get that seat at the table you don't you don't like no one no one wakes up with 10,000 followers right right you decide to take that seat at the table by taking the first step by innovating by building momentum by having pattern recognition right you you when I yelled at you to start doing Twitter not just LinkedIn I would fully say that you made the ision to become an authority in the Amazon space on Twitter right yeah absolutely no one else posted as much as you did no one else is still posting as much as you did about it you make that decision I love how all these young guys decide to post a lot on Twitter and then they find people and then they they get added to the group chats or whatever right and it makes this a really really positive fun thing because human beings do things that we enjoy we enjoy things we do with people we like so don't start selling on Amazon think that you'll enjoy it think that you'll be really good at it fast without anyone that does it in your life and that all costs no money right right well I've said that before too I mean that's how I really got started to get established in the space is the whole first five years that I was selling on Amazon I didn't know any other sellers I didn't I couldn't name a single one but it wasn't until like like you said I met you I started getting active on Twitter met Garrett started hanging out with other Amazon sellers yeah exactly trajectory was hockey stick I mean business really exploded from there and best decision I ever made so I think the main takeaway for people as we wrap this up is it doesn't really matter what business you're in whether it's selling on Amazon whether it's Drop Shipping e-commerce sneakers whatever just find that group of people that's already doing what it is that you want to do and kind of the way that I like to look at it is find that group of people that are doing the thing that you want to do at a level that you think is Out Of Reach but is normal to them right so if if for you if your big goal right now is I want to make 10K a month in profit selling on Amazon then go find two or three or five people who already make 10K a month in profit on Amazon where to them it's completely normal it's like Well yeah if I didn't make 10K this month it would be like a disaster right like those are the kind of people you want to find and you want to hang out with and I know the objection a lot of people have is well why would they want to hang out with me I'm new or I don't have any value to provide and that's some else get it and that's not necessarily true because there's there's always something there's always something that you have that will be of value to that person a lot of times the value for for you is finding out what is right A lot of times you have to do some digging and meet that person and connect with them and figure out what it really is that you can bring to the table and sometimes it's just a listening ear right like sometimes it's literally just being able to to talk to them and have a conversation so yeah find that group of people and you'll really take off you really explode yeah and that dude like I was just around like I just happened to be one of the icons that popped up on 2020 on Amazon Instagram and reselling Instagram in 2019 like I was just around like there were so few people that were just in the conversation that were commenting on stuff that you could go to their page and learn like what they were doing what they're about what they're messing up what was working for me what wasn't working for me and everything so that just kind of like introduced me to [ __ ] and everything and it made it really really fun too which was awesome as as well here too on all that so it's very very good thing I just realized we're past 5 PM too so we are yeah so for the audience here me and Miles do uh every Monday we do a live stream over on YouTube we call it money Monday me miles uh Warner Fields otherwise no fields of profit and then our buddy Garrett uh we all hang out on YouTube on Monday nights and do just a Q&A for Amazon sellers so we're running late to that we're going to go jump over to that miles before we do man what uh what do you want to plug where can people find you do you want to talk about boxing do you want to talk about seller amp uh now's your time yep yeah so couple couple good uh free resource for you guys so I'm super active on all all socials at Flips For Miles my DMs are open for any questions we do the live streams um like Corey was mentioning too I have an eight hour free course on YouTube that's where I would start if you want to learn like uh online Arbitrage Retail Arbitrage just search Flips For Miles 8 Hour um for that and then uh yeah we have seller amp which is a profit calculator for online Retail Arbitrage and wholesale which uh calculates your exact profit fees Etc helps you find products and then box them is for listing stuff on Amazon shipping stuff to the Amazon warehouse knowing all your numbers restocking we have a bunch of cool analytics features coming out soon too as well um both of those you can get free trials on seller and box.com as as well so it's lot of fun yeah and we'll have links to all those tools and all those resources in the description below or in the show notes if you're watching on Apple or Spotify now guys at least to my knowledge this is the most in-depth Flips For Miles origin story that I've ever heard probably that's out there on the internet in general so if you enjoyed this conversation with Miles leave us a fstar review if you're listening on Apple or Spotify if you're listening over on YouTube be sure to give the video a thumbs up miles thank you so much for your time and we will chat soon man yeah that was a blast thank you so much and thanks everyone for listening as well it's a lot of fun and uh hope I helped you guys out today