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Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Hello. Hello. Welcome everyone to day four of the Happy Wealth Summit. Today is the last day. Can you guys believe it? Four days just went by so quickly and we're so grateful that you were here with us along the way. Can you share in the chat where you guys are dialing in from today? D said, you know, I'm actually I'm very curious. Is your name actually the oralers? It's a very unique name, but he says, "So grateful." Well, we're grateful for you, too. And um Kochi Kochi, I see you here again. It's so nice to see familiar faces from the past few days, you know. Thank you for showing up. Thank you for spending the time, you know, coming here to grow, to learn, to unlock wealth for yourself. Um, I see Lara here. Hey, Lara. Good to see you. Where are you guys dialing in from today? I see Elaine said, "Thank you for these four days. Grateful." Oh, we're grateful for you. Memphis, USA. Do we have other people coming in from different areas? I see people coming in. Wow. So, Zezy said, "This is the most fantastic summit I participated in for the last five years." Thank you, Zezy. That is incredible. It means a lot to us. Honestly. Honestly, for you know, Ken, for the team, for us, all the speakers as well. You know, I share some of your feedback with the speakers. Actually, I sent it to them on their WhatsApp and all of them were just so so happy and so grateful that you guys enjoyed um their sessions. So, please keep the feedback coming. You know, it's really important for us to know what you guys enjoy so that we can keep creating content that help you guys on your journey as well. Uh Kim, Kim is from Minnesota. Amazing. Has been transforming. I'm glad to hear that. Uh, okay. Where else is Poland? Zezy from Poland. Uh, Louise. Okay, cool. Sweden. Sweden is amazing. London as well. Wonderful. Wonderful. So, we are in on the final day and today's theme is none other than life purpose and eeky guy. It often sounds like a pretty deep and heavy theme, but we really want to invite you to approach it with a bit of fun today. All right. Let's let's approach it with lightness, with openness, with uh a full heart because, you know, life is supposed to be fun. I mean, you know, we create businesses, we do work, all this takes time. What's the point of doing it if it's not fun? So, you know, now fun doesn't mean you don't do work. Yeah, you got to put in the work, you got to take action, but you can have fun along the way, even sometimes when you're doing things that in the moment doesn't seem like uh that enjoyable. Yeah. So in the past three days, we have explored how to activate intuition. We have explored how to manifest more easily and effortlessly to get the abundance that we we seek. We've explored how relationships affect, you know, our well-being, our wealth, our flow of prosperity. And today we dive into purpose. And the thing about purpose is obviously we talk about ikiguai. What I noticed is that with originally it is a Japanese concept, right? Who here you heard of before? Can you type in the chat? I'm very curious. I All right. Oh, Kim said, uh, this summit is fun. Exactly. We want to have fun. All right. And Stephanie, good to see you, Stephanie. Uh, she says she couldn't agree more and this has been the best summit I've ever attended. Thank you, Stephanie. that means so much to us. So I see a lot of eeky guys coming in right so that's great. Now one thing I found out recently and it blew my mind is that obviously in the western world ekiguai became quite a famous concept but I noticed after me ken that um a lot of books in the western uh market when they talk about ikiguai they actually morphed it a bit. It's not actually the um pure essential authentic version of what eeky guy actually means, right? And who who better to listen about than the Japanese wealth master Ken Honda, right? So, we're really excited because Ken told me that he's going to share about today. Uh but I also want to invite you all to open your hearts today and not let your your past uh understanding of Eiguy hold you back from potentially learning something new, right? So, who's excited for that? Can you can you share in the chat? Ela say Eeky Guy is new to you. That's that's great. So Elaine, this will be the first time you've learned about Eeky Guy right now. Uh that being said, I see a lot of familiar faces, but I also see a few new names here. So uh for you all who have been with us for the past couple of days, whether it's one session or the whole day, um can you type in the chat what what has it been like for the summit? I know I see a lot of feedback already. Can you share just what has it been like for you? um let the newcomers know uh you know what are they in for today for day four yeah we really appreciate that Cibbo I see you that's wonderful um it's so good to see people from all over the world coming here today and that's one of the magical things here we really want to build this community with you all and so we want you all to come together connect with each other um and really really get to uh create new friendships to uh move forth to this new chapter of life right and so uh if you haven't been in the Facebook group yet, please join the Facebook group. It'll be in one of your emails. Um maybe our team members can post a link there for the Facebook group. But join the Facebook group and uh you know that way we can not only continue our conversations but also you know get to really deepen those relationships together, right? I saw some conversations in the Facebook um group messenger yesterday about a few members supporting each other and that's beautiful to see and that's so cool because yesterday's theme is relationship, right? So immediately I see that you guys are applying that and it brings so much joy to Ken and to myself. So thank you so much. Wonderful. Oh, Judith said, "I joined yesterday. It was transformational." Thank you, Judith. That means so so much. Um and so Elaine said, "It's been really refreshing and exciting three days." And so one thing is I want to invite you all again is to really really allow yourself to take consistent action right because the thing is um you know a lot of people talk about massive action and you know it can feel a bit intimidating for some people. What I noticed though is that if you improve 1% a day by the end of let's say 365 days you improve actually 2700%. Give or take you know math. Um, but that's amazing, right? And it's not like a one-time thing. So, I would like to invite you all really allow yourself to learn and also allow yourself to just take one action uh starting today, right? And let that compound effect work magic in your lives. All right. Now, wonderful. uh your feedback just makes us so excited, you know, and for those of you who are new here, um you know, you're joining over 10,000 people, you know, joining the summit and then just basically uh having that new connection, that new journey, that mind share and I'm really happy to have you here. Now, for everyone who's watching live as well, uh you can actually uh go to the desktop version of this page. So, if you're logging in mobile version, um you don't have the commenting feature. So uh if you go to desktop uh on this summit page you'll be able to comment and engage in this conversation that I'm seeing right now right and uh you have to log into your YouTube account that's how this technology works so log into your YouTube account and you can interact with everyone here uh and uh basically all these loving comments I am seeing this is so wonderful now some of you already asked as well to our team uh all the free resources that our speakers have been u offering to share so far how can you guys get a consol consolidated resource for that and uh our team actually is creating a consolidated res um document basically to send to you guys so that'll be in your emails right so freight not we got your back and uh you'll be able to see it in your inbox soon right so I look forward to that yeah fantastic said love being here so many great speakers topics insights inspiration so good to have you here heather all right it's so amazing so after three days of learning the final day. Uh I know there's a lot of information. I know there's a lot of knowledge. Uh so if you have to step away at some point, uh freight not because the session today will be available for your replay up until 9:00 a.m. Eastern time tomorrow. So basically 24 hours from now, right? So if you have to step away for a bit and come back, uh no worries. You won't miss out completely. Uh and also if you want to revisit that as well, right? Uh it's available for you for that replay. So, we just really want to to give you at least that so that uh you don't feel like you have to get strapped in a chair, right? And uh if your baby is in another room having some troubles, you have to like stick right there. Judy said, "It's a joy and honor to be here. I'm learning so much and this is truly the best summit I've ever attended. Thank you. Thank you." in Aligato Aligato. Judy, this is this is really really humbling to to hear that this is one of the best summits you guys have been to and this is the quality we strive for. We really want to create the best content for you guys, for you to grow. And honestly, this is just the first step. This is the beginning, right? This new paradigm shift is like you opening a new door and um now you're walking into that door. It's important to be in the right community uh to continue to support you and grow. And um I'm really really excited to see where you guys go. So that's why I want you guys to be in the Facebook group and keep us updated. All right. So with that said, I do want to do a bit of a housekeeping quickly for you all. So I will quickly share my screen because I think you need to know this. So let me just share it right here. Okay, I'll pull up my screen quickly. Okay. So, as you know, uh the replay is limited, but for you all who want to keep this for life. All right. Uh and be able to access the replays in multiple formats, uh you know, audio, video, transcripts, we have something for you. And uh you might have already heard about this is the Summit Lifetime Access Pass. And so if you get this for $99, not only would you have, you know, all the replays, but you also have summit workbooks to guide you through every single day of the topic. So you can revisit these wisdoms with uh, you know, action steps and and wisdom gems and all these little tips that will help you integrate even better created by Ken and the team, right? Uh, also Ken has a little something for you as well as a bonus. So you'll be able to get that in the VIP lifetime access pass for $99. you'll be able to see a little orange button on the web watch page. Uh, and you can upgrade right away. But, you know, some of you might prefer a mobile device. So, I want to leave it here for you. And, um, you know, by doing so, not only are you supporting us to create even more content for you. Um, but I think you'll be able to uh, basically tell the universe that you are ready for more abundance and you're ready for a next step of your life because you are willing to let money flow. And that is something that Ken talks about a lot, right? To allow money to flow. So, um I'll just leave it here for a bit and if you guys are in, thank you in advance. All right. And another thing is, you know, we have a few other things with the summit. Uh number one is that um sorry, number one is that we have a few sessions today up to six guest speaking sessions and also Ken will be speaking as well. Uh and then if uh you guys are uh logging into your Facebook group, just make sure that you say hi and let everyone know that you're there as well. Okay. And uh finally, just one last thing, you all here are automatically invited to this workshop. It's happening in June 16th and uh it would be a gift from you know, Ken and myself. And you know, we really want to just help you dive even deeper. So, uh, every inspiration that you got today, uh, specifically want to help you dive deeper into your hidden money wounds, your happy money eeky guide, right? And also how to rise above your fate and step into abundant destiny. So, you get more information about this in your email later. Uh, because you're all automatically enroed to this workshop. Okay, with that being said, who here is excited to get started? I'm curious. Can you can you type me if you're excited to get started? I see that kids world if that's your actual name that's a pretty cool name the summit is very giving can feel generosity from all speakers and team Kenzen hard to accept h but yes yes yes I'm open and feeling the flow I hope kids by the end of all this you'll be able to say easy to accept and easy to receive thank you for being here all right okay I see so many mis here so why don't we get started our first speaker is none other than obviously Ken Honda and he's actually going to help us dive into that eeky guy using his decades of wisdom and understanding about you know uh life purpose life work and he has helped so many people already discover their unique purpose and calling and help them actually step into a higher destiny right that's right for them and so I can't wait to get him here so if you will please give him a big round of applause and welcome Ken Honda on the stage. Hi, Ken Honda here. Welcome to day four of the Happy Wealth Summit. I cannot believe today is the last day because I've been enjoying uh every minute of this summit. How about you? Are you enjoying the summit? I hope you're enjoying as much as I do. So today, life purpose and ikiguai is a theme. So have you ever heard of the word ikiguai? Ikiguai is something that um all the Japanese people know. That means a life worth living literally. So I wonder if you have iky on your own that could be like your life work. So if you are doing the same thing uh for example for me I'm a writer so uh a lot of people write for many reasons for example one writer could be writing to bring food on the table which is great so he's or she's thinking so hard on what kind of manuscript is right so the books will sell and there are others who sincerely wish that the book or the knowledge will help somebody who picks up the book and that is Ikiga for me when I was retired uh temporarily for my baby girl which is 20ome years ago I got this vision to write and since then it took me another 3 years to really sit down and study writing but I really found a life purpose in writing so for me writing is not occupation So some people say your work is uh it's not really work uh because it's so much fun you know for me u writing um sentences is so much fun it brings me peace it brings me joy. So ikiguai is something that brings you joy. Sometimes uh just uh a little joy uh because uh your iky could be small. For example, your iky could be taking care of your grandchildren or taking care of your little garden. Uh it's very selfish reason. It's for you or just collecting stamps or collecting baseball cards. Whatever that is. If that is your icky guy, it's a life worth living for. And then congratulations if you have that. Uh you're so lucky because not many people have that. And picky guy could be a little bigger like helping other people find their path. For example, if you want to be a coach, do you want to be a coach who just focuses on on their businesses so they can grow, they can make money? Or you can be a coach who is sincerely helping other people to find what they want or sort out issues or organize steps so they can do the right thing to reach their goals. So there are many ways of approaching your life. We seem to be working 24/7 uh because of the internet. Sometimes we're required to uh reply back uh your client's mails at 11:00 at night. Many years ago there is no phone. Uh so after dark you couldn't uh respond back to your clients. So when you go home that is the end of your work life and the start of your private life. But now a lot of people work for for somebody out of home. That means that you were supposed to reply an email 24/7. And it's interesting because nobody really signed up for this when internet was invented. But somehow that is a culture we're in unless you declare I'm going to have two week vacation and just send out uh to your clients and then you can have official uh off. You know these days it's so hard to uh draw a line between private life and also work life. But here is the good news. Once you find your icky guy or life purpose, you don't have to worry about private life or official work life because every second of your waking time is fun time. So since I found my icky guy 20ome years ago, I never felt like I'm working because uh doing this could be regarded as work. But for me, this is like a love letter. This is like um uh fun interaction with friends. So in a way this past 4 days has been a a privilege and also a fun opportunity to get to know each other. And uh for some of us may travel together. I'm based in Japan, but I'm flying to Europe and US and Central uh and hopefully South America as well. I love to go to India and Arabic countries and Africa as well. So I want to meet you in person. And this is my guy. So um today before we do interviews I want to explore uh more about Ikyu and how to find life purpose because once you found them your life cannot be the same. So some people ask me but Ken I really understand and I really want to find my icky guy but they would ask me questions like but what if nobody paid me for my icky guy? Yes, that could happen. There are many icky guys and there are two kinds. One that you get paid, the other you don't get paid. The difference uh one group of icky guy you're doing for your own like collecting baseball cards and um all the other things and that may not um bring you cash. It's just for you. It's almost like a hobby. So um you can enjoy fully but don't expect you yourself to get paid. So because it's simply for fun to give you energy it's worth living for. So your icky guy starts like this. Your friend wants to talk with you about the career path. So you sit down for a cup of tea and then you listen. You're not a professional coach. So you're not expecting for your friend to pay you. But for after about an hour you just uh gave whatever he or she needs and then your friend would say this this one hour is a game changer because of your support I feel like um I'm born again thank you so much and then they'll bring in their friends and family members and then you do it again and since your counseling or coaching is so good a lot of friends keep coming. So uh you're now counseling friends friends and you're doing it for free because this is your passion and this is something you doing sort of like your hobby because your one hour means something for other people and that's how I started my career too and one day interesting thing happens uh your friend friend uh said thank you so much for your session and you didn't think it was a session it is just a a cup of tea with your friend. That's how your icky guy is turned into a career. But I'm not saying that you should get paid for what you do because um your icky guy can be both. For me, I do probably 80% of the work for free. So I join the interviews uh for free. I don't charge people. Uh often times I go somewhere to to speak but I do it for um young people. I do it for nonprofit so I don't get paid. I pay my own uh air airfare and also pay my own hotels pay my own expenses but I have enough financial background and also um there are enough people who pay me. So 10% of the work I do uh covers everything. So uh whatever I do brings me joy. So uh all of them are icky guy. So uh the tricky part is not all the iky guy pay you. So but don't get attached to it because icky guy is the juice. Iky is a fire. Icky guy is a gasoline to get you going and a clean one. So once you know what your icky guy is, you're all set. So this is how it works. Your eeky guy can be found out of many synchronicities. You bump into somebody who's doing something and then you haven't uh seen each other for like few years. So you sit down for a cup of tea or a zoom call later on and then wow that is exactly what I wanted to do. Can you teach me how? And then your friend is kind enough to share with you some skills and what to do, what not to do. And then few weeks later you start you start doing that thing. Could be your cooking, could be your uh speaking, could be your writing. That's how I started writing. Uh so I never went to any legitimate school for writing. My friend said, "Oh, this is what I do." Okay, that sounds fun. So I started uh writing essays actually my diary. So nobody it was not meant to show it or I was not writing uh my words so pe other people would see. No, it's for myself. But anyway, so um you bump into somebody on the street or you read books or you watch YouTube videos or TV or or or uh film, whatever the synchronicities, you feel like, aha wow, that is exactly what I want to do. And then you start the thing and then you get passionate about this. And sometimes you need to go deeper. You need to take some online classes. You may need to find a mentor, a teacher or tutor. H I think it's the best way. And then you learn all the skills around your life work. And then you're all set. So at the first beginning uh uh few months or could be a year, you don't get paid. You are doing something else for a day job for example and then you get better. You get practices for coaching, for cooking, for counseling or uh making a web page or um become a marketer, whatever the uh life work you you you want. It takes time. So, it's almost like watering the seed. It doesn't come out in two days, you know, or or two hours. Uh it takes time. It could be a few days, could be a week. And if you want to plant a tree and then expect a fruit could be 5 years, 7 years. So no rush. Uh be patient, take your time. That's how life works. And let me share with you this little map uh of icky guy or life work. So something you love to do, for example, you love gardening or you love helping people, you listen to people and something the word needs. So definitely the world doesn't need you to do gardening. So your gardening could be your guy but not uh necessarily the one that people pay you. The third one is something you can be paid for. So uh for example uh as I said coaching you just listen in and then uh you don't expect people to pay but if you're good people start paying you. So uh that is a pain part of this eeky guy chart something you're good at. You know if you are bad at doing that nobody wants to do it with you and if you're good people start calling you up people start texting uh texting you can I join you that's how your eeky guy works. So you have to hit the bullseye of these four uh circles. And if you do that and then you are very excited because this is something you love to do and then something world needs. Uh for example when I started writing I love reading but I love writing too. Oh I thought uh something to do with books. So as much as I love reading I love writing. So I I started writing and I discovered my friends wanted and it's not my friends my friends friends my friend's relative my friend's neighbor like what are you kidding me because I thought they're joking they're joking to fool me that they love my writing but in fact that means that the world needs me the world needs my writing and then the publisher asked me to write which was great honor but at the same time as are you sure? You know, I is I I felt like every day was April Fool because I I couldn't believe I could become a writer. And then I got paid. This is something I did it for me, you know, just writing a journal. I didn't expect people to pay me. So, I was so shocked. My my jaw dropped when I found out how much I was going to make. That's what happens to people who who found their life work or icky guy uh in deep way. And the last part that you're good at, if you're good at people love you. If you are good at singing, they will ask you, they'll demand you to sing more. If you're good at writing, people beg you to write more. If you're good at coaching or speaking, there will be a lot of speaking requests that you may have to turn down some of them. And that's how this energy uh that um you attract, you become so attractive. So you attract book deals, uh speaking engagements and coaching sessions. People want that. You know the funny thing is um for the past 20ome years there's no single person who asked me to cook. So I don't think that's a good idea idea anyway. But uh you know if there are so many people requesting something out of me there could be at least one or two people who who ask me for cooking but there hasn't been anyone. So uh but I instead I have been uh requested to speak on big stages and and uh write uh for the publishers at least a few hundred times. So what you're good at you'll bring it to the next level. You have to find something that you that will bring you joy and the world needs and they'll pay you and also you're good at. So sometimes you know these things don't quite work because at the beginning stage you're doing what you love. Say you're singing but your singing sucks. So you have to do a trial and error and find out what is best for you, what is best for the world. That is uh what is so good the world wants to pay you. It takes time but uh just keep looking. One day you'll find your icky guy and then oh my god this is something I need to do more and this is exactly what I should do for the rest of my life. It's a quiet feeling. It's just so this is almost like a petite enlightenment experience. I've never been enlightened, so I don't know what real feels like, but finding what you're super good at and what you are so peaceful with is such a deep liberating experience. So I hope one day you'll find that and through the interviews today, I hope you find inspiration from all the great speakers because one way or another they have found the iky guy on on the path of their career. So money thrives with purposeful alignment. If you align with your soul, if you align with what you do and who you are, happy money pours into you. Uh I've been experiencing for many years and I hope the same thing will happen to you. And throughout today, I have this suggestion. How about this affirmation? Today I choose to live my purpose out loud. I'll say it again. Today I choose to live my purpose out loud. So I hope you'll find your life purpose and ikiguai today. And don't forget you're also invited to a 3-day virtual workshop. I'll be teaching from June 16th to 18th. See you there. So let's enjoy today's sessions together. Hello. Hello, welcome back. That was a sweet and heartfelt qu uh session from Ken, don't you all think? I'm curious, how do you guys feel after that session? You know, Ken's invitation, Ken's questions about your life purpose. Can you share in the chat? I know for me, one of the biggest things that came up for me when Ken showed me those questions is that uh you know, it's all about bringing people in together. My one of my biggest wise in life is about connection which is why I never ever want to be a billionaire. There are some costs to being that right. So um for me even if I have a lot of money it's all about spending it with my family my friends my loved ones uh being there for them bringing them together creating wonderful spaces so we can all come and celebrate and grow together. That's how I'm going to spend my money. That's kind of how I'm I'm spending my money right now. So uh you know I'm I'm curious what came up for you all. What is one of or your core life purpose? Okay. They said the should I call you the I'm not sure but the said keep asking seeking knocking. That is true. When you keep taking action to ask for it to seek out it it will come to you bit by bit and hints as well. So don't give up. Just trust the process. Mera Luna, I hope I say your name right. She said that teaching others to work smarter not harder. That's a beautiful beautiful goal. Thank you, Zimbo. She said, "I'm a master connector." Well, I appreciate that. Okay, so for you all uh who are interested in the uh eeky guy as chart as well, uh we'll make sure to send it to you as well in that email that I was talking about. So you guys get to have a visual reference as well. uh of how to actually apply this more. All right. Um, wonderful, wonderful. Nema said that it's about being more inspired to be alive and that's true. I like how you uh bolded be right in all caps because it's about being not about doing. We are human beings after all, you know. Interesting. So, Arena said, "Use RT to help people." So, RTT is the method that Marissa Pier mentioned on day one of the summit, right? So um she that's her method she teaches and uh we have a coach here. Wonderful. Great. So thank you all for sharing and uh for those who didn't share uh I invite you to continue to let it marinate and whatever hints come up uh don't disregard it. If you're on a walk, if you're in the shower, you know, if you're just like minding your own business and suddenly a hint of your purpose comes up, right? Take a notebook, get grab your phone, just type it down and let those hints come together. Right? What can share with you today is also very energetic. So this might continue to marinate within you and suddenly the light bulb might show up. It's beautiful. Oh, Siana said, "I do emotion code session." So emotions code is actually the work of Dr. Bradley Nelson and he was actually in our summit as well uh on day three. So if you all tuned in yesterday, you'll be able to see his session with Ken. It was a beautiful, beautiful conversation. Wonderful, wonderful. Thank you so much you all for sharing it here and also sharing the Facebook group so that other people can see perpetually as well. Now, our next speaker is is going to be fun because he literally brings a breath of fresh air into our lives because he's someone who helps people use their breath to rewire their nervous system and awaken their inner power. You're about to meet Nirage Nike. He's the founder of Soma Breath and a very interesting guy because like Jeffrey Allen who was speaking at our summit on day one, he also was a very much an analytical person, right? He was a former pharmacist, you know, very scientific, but he turned into holistic health because of a life struggle. And now he has a vision to empower hundreds thousands of people to really step into a holistically well life through the power of breath. And he really uses science to go deep into what works, what doesn't work. So he can be quite a skeptical person, which makes me trust him even more, right? Because he really really tested the things that he does. and he is also the teacher of breath work for life at mine valley you know and right now he has transformed thousands of lives around the world uh with his method so in the next session he's not just going to talk about abundance and talk about purpose uh he said he has something prepared for you all you know to guide you through a breath activation and I really really enjoyed it too so that you can actually feel it in your body in your heart in your energy right so if you can right now If you're walking or driving a car, it would be really great if you just find a spot to um you know get settled for a bit for this particular session. All right, with that being said, please give a big round of applause and welcome on the stage Nash Nike. All right, friends, I'm really looking forward to this next session because it is going to be a breath of fresh air quite literally. Our guest is Niraj Nyak, a world-renowned breath work expert and also the founder of Soma Breath. He is also a former pharmacist who turned a serious illness into a powerful path for healing. And he now teaches breath work to thousands around the world. The thing about Nash is that his work blends ancient yogic wisdom with modern science to help people unlock their energy, clarity, and a deeper connection to their purpose and flow. So today he will guide us through how to use your breath to reduce money stress to clear energetic blocks and to activate a state of flow. So let's all take a deep breath together and please welcome the amazing Nash. Thank you. Hey Nash. Hey. Thanks for making the time. Yeah. So I'm really curious because you know your journey has been one of struggle into inspiration and abundance and I'm very curious you know how did you use breath to start attracting abundance and wealth and flow into your life? Great question. Um so it all began like when I went through my own healing journey. I had a chronic autoimmune disease with ulcerative colitis that left me housebound for almost a year where I was blood like 40 times a day. It was horrible. Lost a third of my body weight and you know I had to make an important choice like cuz I either I was going to have my colon removed and be in a have a colostomy bag for the rest of my life you know attached to my side or be a guinea pig for a drug that hasn't been tested before. So they say God stands with gift of desperation but that's when I had a big wakeup call you know of you know it was a desperate moment. So that's when um a dear friend of our family she taught me the basic foundation of prraiyama and aya and and yoga and she showed me that I actually had a gift here. If I could turn this around I could be a role model to others and maybe even create a new career out of it. It was very prophetic a word. So, so what I learned was some simple breathing techniques which opened a whole rabbit hole of learning everything I can about yoga, tantra, ayeta, all these meditation techniques and I just went down a serious rabbit hole after I'd healed myself. So what I create was my own little ritual where I'd go into a sauna and I would do a breathing technique of rhythmic breathing with extended exhalations whilst getting into a trans state and using creative visualization techniques to to manifest, right? But what I first did was use that for healing, self-healing, and it works incredibly. So I was like, what if I could use this to manifest other things. And this documentary came on TV about a crazy guy called Uriela who was a secret spy for the Mossad and CIA and he was proven by San Stanford Research Institute to have genuine psychic mystical powers and clairvoyance remote viewing and and he would bend spoons and all this stuff. The whole spoon bending thing became famous because of him. So I was like, you know what, for a laugh, I'm going to manifest Uriela into my life. So wow, that's this is the secret. You have to turn the whole thing into a bit of a joke. It can't be too serious. And you got to forget you did it, right? When you do that, that's the magic formula for manifesting. And you take action. You have to take some action towards a bigger picture plan, right, that you've got. weird things start to happen to get you towards that plan. Something's unexpected. Some things might be uncomfortable and take you out of your comfort zone. And that's where you grow into who you need to be, the identity you need to be to create that thing, right? Um, so crazy thing was I did this thing to manifest Uriela. Basically completely forgot I did it. Had a laugh because I didn't take it seriously. So was like it's not going to happen. Um no expectation. There wasn't really an expectation cuz I literally forgot I did it cuz it was that unserious. I took it that not seriously at all. Three days later my swami actually she she runs a charity in the UK. She calls me up like guess who's coming to our charity dinner. I was like who said I was like what that's crazy. And then so I went to his charity dinner obviously and in the end we actually became friends. He invited me to his house and you know Michael Jackson was his best man. So at his wedding so he was showing me where Michael Jackson used to stay at his house. Um he would like telling me all these crazy stories of stuff he'd got up to like remote viewing for billionaires to find oil to dig to dig for and stuff like that. So anyway, um he said to me like there's one thing worse than bad publicity and that's no publicity. So he says, "Look, I really love what you're doing, but you need PR for what you're doing to get more exposure and I'm going to send you positive energy to to to create more PR." So I went off and because he said, you know, he wants to help me 10x my business and income. Well, that's great. So yeah, but check this out. So I went off and did my little ritual for PR and in the sauna again. Come back out of it and forget about it. I did it again. And then a few months later I'm checking my emails and I get an email from the Daily Mail, which is one of the biggest tabloid news. Wow. And they said that they want to um reshare my infographic. Um and I was like, "What are you talking about?" And they said, "Oh, don't you know that you have the number one trending article on Facebook?" Back then, Facebook used to have the top five, I think, top 10 trending articles. I was number one. And it was like that for two weeks. Number one for two weeks on Facebook, the most popular article. Maybe at that time it was probably the most popular infographic of all time. Maybe there's been more since, but that was the marketing case studies on this. M so I blew up the internet. I had insane amount of traffic onto my website. That one article, it gave my website superpowers of SEO. So I could rank for any keywords I wanted. I was outranking farmer sites. Actually, for almost a year and a half, I outranked Diet Coke for the keyword Diet Coke. Can you believe that? That's very impressive. Yes. Well, Coca-Cola for the keyword Diet Coke. Yeah, I figured. So I was like, this is insane. That obviously helped scale the business. But then what came along was uh the fact that Wimhof's son had read that in that article and he invited me to do an an infographic on Whim and I'd been research about Wimhof before that and I was like he was another one because I remember seeing saying to my girlfriend at the time that's the guy I'm going to manifest next right and she was like yeah whatever. I was like no no watch. Boom. Happens. So now I'm at Wimhof's house and then we ended up like becoming really good friends. I made soundtracks of the Wimhof method. Helped him a lot in the early days. Was like his right-hand man during events. We went and did a tour and all of this some of the big you know turning points in and what happened in my mission. It gave me the proof firstly in the power of the breath. the breath is what I need to double down on because I I knew loads of different techniques, right? Like the combination with the breath, with music, the creative visualization was something I I really wanted to go deep on cuz I'd seen the effects and I'd seen like how whim uh through this breath retention tech holding your breath techniques had created superhuman strength and abilities. So I was getting all this proof on the power of the breath. So all of this added to you know the what the culmination of S breath which is now the the my main company. We have over three and a half thousand instructors. We really have created like a pharmacy of breathing techniques. We're creating careers for people. We're healing people through our courses, through our app where we're changing lives. you know that corny saying one breath at a time and and yeah and it's it's created a lot of abundance it I I was a digital nomad from before I met women whim uh I'd already started my journey I'd already started to create automated income but before that it was breathing techniques to heal myself so breath for me has been a part of my manifesting journey because all of this is manifesting ultimately like the what I'm using with the breath left to do is to manifest. It's just I have my own process to it, right? And it's not just sitting there and just uh visualizing No, it's like a science. I've broken it down to a science actually. So stands for the science of magnetic attraction where the keyword is action. The key word in this is what people forget in law of attraction. The word attraction, the key word in that is actually action. Without action, none of this work. None of nothing happens in anyone's life. You have to take action. So true. So that's what um but but you can enhance your likelihood to succeed by bringing breath based techniques. Like creating a breathbased lifestyle is going to help you in many ways because what it will do is it will also help you realize who you really are and what you really want to manifest. Because the problem with manifesting and the way people teach it is like we're always manifing manifesttor. We're always manifesting all the time, right? Whether we like it or not. And often we're manifesting what we don't want, right? Because we don't know who we truly are. We're easily misled. We're not, you know, working from core values. We're not staying true to ourself. And then we end up manifesting all kinds of that makes us miserable. So the what I'm all about is how do we figure out what we truly want? And I've really found out that the breath and these advanced breath work techniques that I use, these protocols are by far the most powerful potent way for self inquiry, self-discovery to discover who you truly are. What do you think is uh something that people are not doing that your unique approach to breath work uh entails because I can tell that the results speak for itself you know and not only did you help yourself but you've helped thousands of people around the world and we breathed every day right we breathe and like you said people do creative visualizations uh but a lot of them don't lead to the results they want so what do you think is missing for for a lot of Yeah. So in terms of other people teaching breath work, um so breath work has become confusing. There's a lot of different breath work schools out there and breath work has been also known associated with emotional release techniques. So like trauma release practices like where you do like holotropic like breathing where you breathe very intensely non-stop for like an hour or even longer and it leads to very profound psychedelic like visionary experiences. Now for some people that can be extremely out of control and painful and not a pleasurable experience and it can actually retraumatize them and do the opposite what it's supposed to do. For others they have profound life-changing experiences, right? But what the problem is is that that that's not just breath work. Breath work isn't just those techniques, right? Actually, the word, you know, chiong translates as breath work pretty much. So like breath work has been around for thousands of years and like pranayyama for example isn't just one technique and one of the mistakes is that breath work is a panace one technique is panacea for everything and that's not true there's like modifications you can do different patterns different rhythms different ways of holding breath even breathing in through alternate nostrils that all has different physiological effects on the body so what we try and do in certain breath is turn it into a pharmacy of breathing techniques as breath is your best medicine. So we make a pharmacy of techniques and from that um you have different ways to influence the nervous system and chemistry in the body and influence change with the right dose and the right technique for the right occasion. Now what most breath work schools do is unfortunately focus on just one technique, right? Right? And then people get confused thinking that's going to cure everything. Or the people teaching that technique don't teach it with any real insight, the science of what this is actually doing. So they they promote it like some kind of panacea and it it it needs to be like a pharmacist should do this stuff really. I'm a pharmacist because we understand the science, we understand the dose, the indication, contraindications, when you should do it, when you shouldn't do it, the safety. I'm more clinical in that approach, you know, compared to others. Yeah, we're not that hippie type, fluffy, flowery, feathers types. Um although we I don't mind wearing a flowery, but that's that's where Sar breath stands for something different. It's a bit more serious in terms of the science, the approach, safety, but we also have a lot of fun. The method is fun. Yes, we turn it into, as I said, manifesting is only works if you have fun with it and you and it's playful and you go really here's the other the only way it really works, right? Breath work is if you get lost into it like you you you're not distracted by anything else and you're committed to it and you flow with it. And this is the other problem with a lot of other breath work. They don't actually explain that those elements that if you want to turn breath into a manifesting tool you and any kind of breath practice it need you need to flow in you flow with it where your mind like conscious mind there the voice in your head the verbal part of the mind that speaks inside is turned off then it really works right so with so breath the ingredients that I believe makes what so breath unique, different from the rest is the way we breathe to music. You breathe to the rhythm of the music and that breath flows with the music and you get lost in the soundtrack. Now, a lot of other breath schools then what they do is they use Spotify playlist and you breathe with your own rhythm with no rhythm to the beat. And you know, you kind of you're not in the rhythm with the music. You lose the groove. you're not flowing with it. Sometimes I've heard breath sessions led by instructors where they're breathing out of time themselves to the music and me musical person and actually everyone's musical. We music is a language of soul. So if there's no groove, if there's a mismatch between the rhythm of the breath and the groove of the music, it causes a a dissonance inside. Right? But when you breathe with the rhythm of the beat music, something else happens. magical coherence happens, connection, and you get lost in the flow, the meditation of the music, then the breath technique works even more powerfully because the conscious mind stops. Right? That's how magic actually works. If you want to really flow and in your life and create magic and be and literally do things that like to other people think it's like looks like magic because the results you get like healing yourself for example from chronic illness when they say it's incurable. Yeah. You you need to turn off that conscious mind. It has to has to quieten down at least go into the background so it's quiet. Then another part of the mind awakens the the soul the soul mind and that's when you get the big divine downloads that we're looking for right so yeah I think that's the secret ingredient that we bring in so is the pharmacy approach the science the fun factor and the music that guides the breath yeah yeah I've seen I've seen many different breath work teachers uh teaching their work before and I've also had the pleasure of experiencing your sessions Nash, and I have to say I really respect how you bring your background around science, around really looking into the facts with, you know, music and with fun. And I really want to dive a bit deeper into the fun part because, you know, I know a lot of people listening right now might be overthinkers. They might be people who analyze a lot. They might be people who are quite serious in life. And you were highlighting how fun is a big big part of manifestation. is big part of really allowing yourself to be in flow. Was it something that you had to teach yourself or you know as a former pharmacist? You know I was just curious how the journey was like. Such a good question. Yeah. So I was born in an immigrant Indian family, right? So like probably No, you're you're not actually that, right? I think your your you were your family also brought up in where you're from like Singapore is it that you're from? No. Uh my family so my father is Chinese, my mother is Vietnamese and they both met in Canada. So I was born in Canada. Oh, you're can Canadian. So yeah, you're like me. You're just like me. So, so basically our culture actually maybe it's not the same for you but we got educated out of our culture of the traditional like in yoga Ieta meditation all this stuff and my parents don't even practice that stuff right so they were westernized and my mom's a medical doctor so she was brainwashed by that system so I was brought up not thinking yoga or meditation was anything to be taken seriously or it was cool or anything like that. Like I didn't practice it until much later on in my life. Like until I got sick to be honest. I never really practice yoga. So I And to me anything like law of attraction was just complete nonsense. Woo woo. Not science. Like I come from England as well and English people are very very rigid tend to be true from where I'm from in the UK we're we don't trust anything we we we we're tried to be ultra cool like you know like you know like we're stupid actually like like co showed that to me how stupid people are um from where I'm from but basically I was like that so Anything to do with law of attraction I thought was nonsense. Never heard until The Secret came out. And I remember like a friend of mine got me into it. And I was thinking actually when I watched it, I was like, "Wait a minute, I do that anyway. It's like I already do that." Um, but I'm an action taker. So I knew that law of attraction was a bit of nonsense. Um, unless you take actions. I'm I'm a big action taker, so I would actually take a lot of action. Um, and then Tony Robbins took me out of depression for the first time. So that was around 2007. This was before I got sick. And Tony Robbins um event, the UPW event, the first time I heard anyone talk about diet, nutrition, stress levels for prevention of disease. So I was like, look, I've got a pharmacy full of sick patient. I'm going to test out Tony Robbins and see if he's full of And I got such good results in the pharmacy that this started making me a believer into diet, nutrition, lifestyle change for disease. I first saw this this clear link between processed foods and prescription medications. How many people meds were people on and the amount of processed foods they ate and fizzy drinks they drank. And also like how healthy foods, soal healthy foods, doesn't matter if they were on healthy foods, there was a long list of prescription meds they were on. So they were just as bad as anything that came in a factory. There was a correlation between that and the amount of meds people were taking. So this is all the things that started to turn me on. M but it was only when I so I I was using kind of secret type techniques um where I worked my way up to the head office of the biggest corporation in the UK to create a healthy shopping list service based on a process I I invented of wow getting people off um medications by changing their diet through healthy shopping list. So I came up with this website. I was going to it was from one of the biggest corporations in the UK. Um, and I thought this was what I was going to do. It's my career. And this is when I had a huge wakeup call cuz what I realized, another thing I learned was that you become your identity, what you believe about yourself. And if your environment doesn't match your core values and your core identity, your your real belief about who you are, and if you're faking it to make it. All right. So if you end up somewhere and this is the thing with law of attraction you have to be so careful because God will give you everything you want but you may not really want that. All right. So everything you wish for, you'll get it eventually. Right? So if you're not that person who works in a corporation in a cubicle answering to directors, wearing a tie and suit, you know, n, you know, clocking in and clocking out, um, if that's not really your truth, and it obviously isn't my truth because I wouldn't have been running raves when I was 19. Um, you know, then you're going to get sick, right? True. and and then just working in that corporate environment. Also, if the thing you want to do for the world, you end up doing it through a vehicle that isn't actually the right vehicle, the universe will pull you out of that situation, the light. Right? If you're in the dark trying to do light, y okay, and you're you're trying to prop up you're trying to help and support a dark system with this fake idea of, you know, you're doing that to spread light in the world. It's very hard. It's not everyone's got the the physical composition required to go into the dark with the light carrying the light, right? Especially if you're not ready for it yet, evolved enough yet for it. Yeah. Because you got a lot of dark energy around you. You have to be very careful. So the universe would would give you something like a disease to get you out of it. And that's what happened to me. And and then I I was literally faced with nothing but myself, right? I had no I was literally on on the toilet 40 times a day. I was spend most of the time on my own. I couldn't go out. I couldn't work. Nowhere I could buy pharmacy. I had no money coming in. I was in sick pay which was like £200 a month or something stupid. Um I had no cash. I was broke and I was at my parents house on my own. All right. So, a dear friend of mine um uh called Mish, he he actually invited me to go and live with him. And we I said to him, "Look, this is the only time I've got now, the only shot I've got now to do music because I can't do anything else." And he was an amazing guitarist and we used to make music together. So, I said, "If we're gonna, this is our one chance. I actually have the only thing I can bring myself to do is make music. So he said, "Okay, come and live with me and let's see if we can do something with music." And he was a doctor who hated his job. So he was also a little bit out there as well in terms of his his level of awareness of things. So he's the one who started feeding me at his house book after book on psychology, personal development. He's the one who bought me the tickets to Tony Robbins and all this stuff. So he was feeding me all this stuff. So I just devoured all this knowledge and then that one door opened to another door and I got into a lot of the more occult practices of magic and you know and things like that from Israel regard and all of this u more occult science and manhole and masonic stuff. And I just went deep into all this to just see what can I learn, right? And what I realized was this strongly about you manifest what you feel. So how you feel manifests your reality. So a lot of people change their states artificially through substances, coffee, food, stuff, right? And material possession. They buy stuff, Rolexes to change their feeling. But what they're doing it for is so that they can think more positively. And through that and maybe this happened on a conscious level, they get a better experience of life because you attract what you feel, right? The vibrational state you're in, right, based on your mood and your emotions, your true emotion is going to attract other people on that vibration, right? That's why people end up in secret societies and cults and you know religions and um communities and masterminds is because they feel a certain way. They have this mixture of emotions and emotional state that is a unique signature. They're shared by a group of other people who are doing similar things who all want the same thing and are all equally successful in that thing already. So they so they like attracts like. you start to manifest people of that into your life. And there's those people, that community, that culture that then manifests more things into your life, right? You know, they say that your income is the result of the people you're closest to, right? Correct. Correct. Like five to seven, right? So, you become that. So, I really believe that that it begins with you changing your state, right? And breath work is the most powerful potent way and with a ritual that you can do first thing to start changing your state, right? And making a lasting state that lasts for several hours afterwards. And what this will do is allow you to think more clearly to manifest more in alignment and it creates the connection between mind, body, and spirit. And your spirit starts guiding you, right? Rather than your analytical mind. So, so this is what I feel has been the best thing for me is wow is like understanding who I truly am changing my belief system my BS system and having a tool that helps me create a positive state positive energy from the start of the day which is the power of the breath and what we do in seven breath and so what I believe with that is that you start to discern more of what to call into your life and what to get rid of in your life. And it becomes easier to let go of the the things in your life that pulls you away from that feeling, right? That vibration, that frequency, which is that unique signature of all of the things in your life that are happening that that you have brought you to that place. So your core values, your core values, if you're aligned with them and you're living them, creates an emotional signature, right? A frequency that other people out there in the world will um connect with and then you're end up in that frequency. So you know, this is how I ended up in the Mind Valley communities. This is how I end up in entrepreneurial communities. So I manifested like people like John Davyy to be a business partner is how, you know, who's accelerated what I'm doing, right, in many ways. how I've attracted Jeff from Zumba like you know epic entrepreneurs into my series like people like you Ken Honda who all want to support my mission is because we have a unique vibrational signature that creates a certain feeling and emotion that drives us but others share that too and we attract those people into our life inevitably it has that is so true that is so true and this is this is the art of true manifesting so it's not just as simple as like wishing for something. No. And having a vision board. There's more of a science to this. And the way we change our identity is because it can easily be morphed and influenced by outside forces like media, TV, personalities, advertising, blogs, adverts, you know, all that. You know, how hypnotic the marketplace is and how it leads us in different directions always align with who we truly are. And to create that strong core identity and belief system, the power of you know self hypnosis affirmation is so important. So the science of magnetic attraction a lot of it revolves around your ability to change your brain okay at core level your nervous system. So, if you think about how did what all the things have had to happen for me and you to be on this call right now speaking to each other. If you go back go back and back and back, you'll see it's a series of nervous system impulses that are creating instinctive reactions. They've created decisions and actions and results in your life. So, but really ultimately it's instinctive behavior. I call it your real AI, your automatic intelligence. I love that. It's the things you do on autopilot. These habits and behaviors that you do on autopilot, this is all part of your B BS system is all is driven by your programmed by your BS system. So all of these autoat the automatic intelligence has been programmed extensively in the first seven years of your life. Part of it is logic boards, hardwired programs installed in circuits that exist in your nervous system uh from a very young age and your ancestral lineage, your genetic is passed down genetically. All right, which is your ancestral code. But but it then gets programmed with layers of conditioning that happen throughout your life, right? So people have a very rigid belief system that stays with them and and creates predictable outcomes that last through their whole life. And that's why marketing has an element of predictability to it because human beings are very predictable. They they just carry out programs that's been installed into them. All right. True. Once you know what those codes are, you can steer a market in any direction you want. All right. Or you can tap into the ideal market. That's what we do. Marketing people do. Oh, what you do? I'm not a marketing guy. But um so, so when you understand that and there's a code, there's a culture, there's a culture code, too, because the culture influences and creates belief systems and identities that are unique to the culture. Okay, very hard to shift. you you then create a reality tunnel, a way a a view of the world that becomes um like almost like tunnel vision, right? So we only tune into a certain portion of reality at any one time and therefore we have a everyone has a reality tunnel and some people's reality tunnel is very small, rigid, narrow focused. They stay in the same hometown. They never travel. They they they have the same friends since they were kindergarten. They marry their their sisters or cousins and so on and they never they don't they don't know anything else about the world apart from what happens in their little neighborhood, right? It's crazy. There's so many people out there in the world that are like that. Yeah, I know. Then there's others like you, me who we're multicultural. We travel the world. We speak different languages. We we have friends in 70 different countries. We we can go anywhere we want and we have friends, right? Um and so on and so forth. And we we could ne we could not even imagine living in one place being stuck in one location, right? It would just destroy us. So that's true. Um so we all have different reality tunnels. And it's also why people argue and don't back down is because one person's seeing one portion of reality, the other one's seeing another portion of reality. And if they don't merge in any way, it's like there's going to be pure disagreement. There's no point in that debate. Yeah. So, so you know often what you're doing when you're arguing with someone, you're you're arguing with their reality tunnel, right? True. Right. So when you understand all this and and this is the secrets of all ages that I'm I'm giving to you right now, you can bend your reality. You can actually expand your reality tunnel if you want to. It's a choice. And a lot of that rigidness comes from the nervous system that is matter. We have matter and we have a nervous system. We have cells. We have nerves. These are rigid and this is our circuits. So we need to change that that that physiology to really make a change brain change. And actually Buddhist tantric Buddhism is in complete science of brain change on according to will. The art of meditation is also the science of changing your brain according to will right I see. And tantric uh practices are all about that. Wow. So breath is also that. And here's the science breakdown for you. So when you hold your breath for around 60 to 90 seconds, you create a physiological state called intermittent hypoxia. You lower the oxygen for a brief period and that lower than normal oxygen, right? It tricks the body into think you're running out of oxygen. And what it does is it adapts to that low oxygen state. It creates more red blood cells. It increases um blood flow around your body, your brain, your mind, your heart, all the organs. You um increase more capillaries forming especially in your heart. You actually get more blood vessels growing in your heart and in your brain. So increases blood flow and and vascularization. So what this is is is is the is indication proof that you're waking up stem cells from circulation. The stem cells are the cells that turn into any other cell in the body. And those stem cells turn into capillaries. They go and create new blood vessels. But what they also do is they go to areas in the body where there's inflammation and they lower inflammation. They help healing. And that's why speed healing is is is possible with this what we're talking about. But what we do with this technique is we send the energy up. The final breath hold on the inhale is you contract the pelvic floor up the sphincta. We send the energy up and we send the energy up through the cerebral spinal fluid into the brain. Right? And there we send a cocktail of neurotransmitters. We create a dose daily through this breath protocol and send that to the brain and stem cells. And what that's doing is invoking neurogenesis. And when you use create visualization, that intention combined with the neurogenesis with the neurotransmitters cocktail and the positive vibrational state that you get into and stem cells. Boom. It starts to change the brain according to reality you want to create. It's like programming you you to start to form the necessary habits, beliefs and automatic intelligence necessary to drive you towards your destination. And this is what I the only way I can explain how such crazy weird magic happens to me every other day. So I'll give you one very recent example. All right. Yeah, please do. I came to Before Before that, I just want to let everyone understand that Nash is not endorsing drugs. If anything, he's saying there's no point in doing that because you can do it for breath work. Exactly. Just to be clear. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I'm endorsing um making your own drugs. That's what I'm doing. Right. Right. In the body. Within the body. Within the body, of course. So, give you a crazy example of weird magic that happens to me. Right. So, this just happened. I just got the the culmination of something really epic today, a testimonial. So I came to Athera, all right, with the intention, right, of creating a career in the music industry as well as a DJ producer recognized, right? And I had just been getting a lot into this kind of tribal afro house like ethnic house music which has lots of percussion and grooves and especially with an kind of afro a African um groove to it, right? I love those tribal rhythm. I I learned the jbe playing the drums. So I had this like um passion for these African beats. My dad's also from Uganda so you know it's always been there with me. So, and this scene had started to grow like big through DJs like Black Coffee, one of the biggest DJs in the world now. Another DJ called I'm going to drop the name in a minute, um, called Thima. And so, the scene was starting to grow. It wasn't massive, but now it's probably the biggest dance music scene at the moment, but it was starting to grow. So, I saw that trend happening, right? So, check this out. So I came to a bea and I was like you know what because so much about the music I want to make our music cool credible and I want to actually start to get the DJs to start using the breathware journeys because calm is one of the famous meditation apps. They did a really cool thing of getting celebrities to do the voices for the meditations, right? And I was like, actors to do it and famous Hollywood actors and stuff. So, I was like, you know what? I'm all about the music. Wouldn't it be cool if I could get famous DJs, producers, the ones that I like, love their music to um, you know, let me remix their favorite songs, their best songs, their big hits into uh, breath tracks because dance music goes so well with what we do, right? When you breathe in beats, when the magic happens. So, I went here and um, like a lot of cool stuff manifested when I was here. IA is a very very um perfect environment for for manifesting because there's a very strong energy here, positive energy. There's a lot of like-minded people, very high vibe. Almost everyone you meet is super high vibe, right? That's awesome. So, so I like to be in those environments. So, is the best place outside of Thailand that I found to live. So I came here and we started to do retreats and at one of the retreats this amazing singer comes to one of the first retreats I do called Nicole Rashelle and she's an amazing music producer uh sorry singer she has her own show in Broadway on par in Paris and she starts singing at the retreat when I'm DJing and I'm like oh my god your voice is off the charts and I play this one beat with like an African rhythm to it and she starts singing this African chant over the top and I'm like we got to record that. So she comes in record a rough version of it then um so at this point I so we we were doing this sa I do these sauna rituals a lot. So we had manifested a retreat center in a bea that we were living. Um and there's a sauna. We manifested a place with a sauna which is not easy to find. That's congrats. Yeah. We because we love to have sauners at our retreats. So we had this place. So I'm doing this ritual. I remember before I was seeing the whole of what I'm about to tell you now seeing it unfolding through different scenes in this mental movie that I created. It's part of my method. So anyway, so the next thing that happens, right, because you never know how the universe is going to manifest and the surprises it gives you. So you have to you have to see the opportunity and take action. That's the key. When you see the opportunity, it's in alignment. Take action. So this guy reaches out to me called Pete Gooding, and he's actually um the manager of the biggest Afro house DJs at the moment. Right. Wow. I didn't know this yet, but he says, "I just did your course on Mind Valley." And I loved it. Fantastic. I just wanted to tell you it's it's life-changing. And um and I said, "Wow. Um what do you do?" And he goes, "Oh, I managed DJs." I was like, "Wow, what can I send you some of my stuff?" So, I sent him the demo of that track that I did with this girl. And he goes, "That's a hit. That's a hit." And then what happens was he sent that song to one of the DJs he's managing called Thima who is now one of the biggest Afro house DJs in the world. So that's amazing man. Yeah. So he um loves it and he goes I'd love to work on this track with you to finish it. So I was like let's do it. So he puts his name to it. It took a little bit of time because he's so busy. I've been busy. But we finally released it a few months ago and it hit like 30 in the charts. It was his one of his most popular songs on his album they just released with me. Um and you know this is the crazy thing. So never done breath work before. Okay. Oh okay. And there's another example of this as well because I'm in such an alignment. I'm going to give you one shorter example. He had never done breath work before, right? He he didn't know anything about it and he just knew that I'm I'm doing this cool wellness stuff. And the DJ's lifestyle is insane. It's in so intense. You're in and out of planes every week. You're flying between different time zones all the time. It's super tiring. You hardly sleep on the weekends. It's it's really brutal. Well, that's really rough. It was hard, right? So, he just left a voicemail and he goes, "I just did like um I was booked to do a show. I It was like uh the the gig was at 1:30 a.m. I had no sleep the night before. And after the show, I had to fly straight away somewhere else to the next gig. You know, I was like wondering how am I going to do this?" Normally I'd smash the red ball just to stay awake. He goes, "You know what? I'm just going to give Nira's a um breath session a go." And what I'd done, so this is the thing. So he gave me his So we made a breath journey, a breath journey to that the song that I um did with him, but then he also gave me his number one hit song to to remix into a breath journey as well. So I gave him both of these. Wow. He goes, "You know what? Wow. Um, they're on the app now. So, he he goes, "I thought I'd just give this track a try. I haven't tried it. I haven't I don't I haven't been using it cuz it's just come out. It's really new. Literally like two weeks ago. I made the breath work journey of it." And he goes, "I couldn't believe the energy that I had. I didn't have to drink Red Bull. I played an extra 30 minutes bonus because I was having such a good time. And then when I got onto the next uh place, the next hotel, I was still full of energy and I rocked the next gig and so on. And he goes, I cannot believe it. I am absolutely gobsmacked. Right. Wow. That is amazing. That result like no sleep, right? This is a DJ who had never heard of breath work, didn't think it was even anything cool. Does this change his life? Imagine this is from the very clicky quite you know cool for school um DJ crowd like anything woo woo is not they don't do that they most he doesn't do drugs but most people in that world doing cocaine drinking it's crazy honest he doesn't do that you're able to induce that that altered state of consciousness by by your breath work uh I'm actually wondering are you open to let this audience have some fun too like would you like to guide us through an experience you know it can be like all right 10 minutes for show right but you know don't worry about the time limit I just would love for them to experience this because what you have shared so far is like you said magical yeah and I mean let me just give one quick short example so oh right years ago with my wife I was living in Barcelona and there is a YouTube video of this guy playing performing called Sattorii an amazing DJ producer and I was like blown away. Yes. And I was like, I want to be I want to do stuff like him, right? He's epic. And um anyway, few years later, end up in AA, right? And I go and I actually got manifested like to work in one of the top studios here because the guy was a friend of a friend. So I'm I'm showing him all my stuff and he goes, "You mate, you've got something so unique, so cool." And he goes, "Oh, um um my friend's coming in a minute. um you want a smoothie who can order it for you. I was like, "Yeah, sure." Um turns out it's Sattorii, right? He's Sattorii's producer. Stori comes and I find out that Sattorii had been using the Wimhof method app for about two or three years instead of drinking, doing drugs to prepare for his gigs, right? And the the crazy thing is is that I made the Wimhof method at music. I made the entire soundtrack, right? So he had been listening to my music, doing the breath work to it for years. So he goes, "Oh my god, this is unbelievable. I'm like a I'm your biggest fan." Right? This So I said, "What if we make a s breath journey together with your music?" And he goes, "Done." So that we did. We put on the app. But this is where it gets more crazy. So I'm at Whim Vision's house. Yes. Vision is playing this music on Spotify and I'm like that's Sattorii's music and I was like hey I know Sator just for people who don't know is my favorite music I I've he's like my most listened to artist on Spotify last year I was like whoa that's great we should get him to one of the Mind Valley parties. So just this year right I manifested do an entire breath rave right I'm guiding the breath work part of it the meditation with Sattorii playing live and we did it in a bether never been done before in a amazing venue theatro the oldro converted and it was like an ecstatic dance breath rave with stori doing the music live you cannot make this up. You can't make this up. And this was all from a vision of working this and it's all manifesting. So, I have so many crazy stories like that. That's just a couple examples in the music career because I'm all about the music right now. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're congratulating music. Let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah. Okay. So, I'm just going to give you a small taste. And in fact, like in just five minutes, you can feel something pretty profound. All right. So, in order to to understand how to do this properly, okay, to do it properly, you I just need you to pay attention to a very simple instructions, okay? It's very easy to do. We're going to be breathing in beats, but to breathe in beats, you need to have the right posture before you do it. Okay? So, it's best to be sitting up with a back straight, right? Upright position. So, you're going to breathe in through your nose first. Take a full lung for a rest. Sit up straight. So you're you're being pulled up by the breath. And then you let go. And when you let go, you should be in a nice upright posture automatically. So you can use your breath to correct your posture. Right? So now what you're going to do is you're going to breathe in rhythm to music. Okay? When I say in, you're going to breathe in through your nose, but you're going to contract up the di the sphincta muscles, the pelvic floor as you do it. So you breathe in. Imagine you're breathing in through your pelvic floor, your sphincta. You contract up and then you let go. Exhale through your mouth to the beat. So you're going to be breathing in two, out 2 3 4 in 2 out 2 3 4 in. 2 out 2 3 4. So that's the rhythmic breathing part. Okay? So you're following the beat, you're just following the count, and you're just breathing in time with the music. Okay? Then you'll be told to breathe in, breathe out through your mouth, hold your breath after full exhale, and just completely relax. Completely relax every muscle in your body. Come very still. And then you're going to hold your breath until you cannot possibly hold it any longer. Right? Then there'll be an an an intense urge to breathe. You're going to try and override that first urge. So you start to feel like this kind of warmth and like energy feeling, energetic feeling building up in the base of your your abdomen and your spine. And then you can if you find you can't hold any longer, you can breathe in, breathe back out and keep holding until I tell you to breathe in. And you breathe in through and contract the sphincter sphincter again. And you breathe in, hold, and you relax your diaphragm. And again, you can you can either contract this sphinct or just you can be completely relaxed as you're holding your breath on the inhale. Relax your diaphragm and you just relax. Follow the instructions. You're going to hold it for another 30 seconds or more. And then you hum with the emphasis on the M sound. That's what creates nitric oxide. And this whole cast uh process creates nitric oxide, antiviral, antimicrobial, antibacterial, vasoddilator, broncoil, stabilizes blood pressure, antioxidant, many different benefits, but it also creates positive stress and releases all these effects I'm talking about from the stem cells to the aos and all that. So this gives you a very potent mixture of amazing chemicals that good for you. So then we that's it. Then it's finished. Okay. So you're just going to follow these instructions. Very easy. It's guided in the in the track. So you you shouldn't have any problems doing it. All right? Because it's already you don't have to worry about forgetting what I just said because it'll all be repeated in the session. Okay. That's amazing. And for everyone who is walking right now or driving, please just find a safe place to sit down quietly and let Nirage guide you through the experience. Yeah. Okay. Welcome to Soma Breath intermittent hypoxic training sequence where you're going to be breathing in a two in four out rhythm with a breath retention phase. Breathing in through your nose, out through your mouth. That's right. So now sit comfortably with an upright posture. relaxed. When you hear me say in, breathe in. And when you hear me say out, breathe out. The smooth and consistent rhythm to the rhythm and groove of the music. That's right. Let's begin. 3 2 one. Exhale. And in. Breathing in. Breathing out. A smooth, consistent inhale and exhale. Breathing in through your diaphragm, then into your chest and letting go on every exhale. This rhythm should be effortless, relaxed, with no force. Deepen your breath slightly. Taking longer, deeper breaths and staying in that rhythm. Deepen your breath even more. Begin to breathe deep full breaths in that same consistent rhythm. Just three breaths left before the breath retention phase. Two breaths left. One last breath. Now take a deep breath in and breathe all the air out. Holding your breath after full exhalation, relaxing the shoulders, your chest. Let your chin drop towards your chest and relax every muscle in your body. That's right. You have 60 seconds remaining on this breath hold. If you need to take a breath at any time, take a little sip in through your nose and breathe out and hold your breath. And you can repeat this as many times as you need to until you get the command to inhale. That's right. Stay calm. Stay relaxed. You are perfectly safe. Allow your muscles of your body to be relaxed. and at ease. Let your shoulders drop. Soften your jaw, your face. Becoming very relaxed. We have 20 seconds remaining. You're doing great. See if you can hold your breath slightly beyond your comfort zone. Going beyond what you thought was possible. Overriding the fear of holding your breath rubs off on other areas of your life where you may be having fear that holds you back. 5 4 3 2 1. Now take a deep breath all the way in and hold your breath after full inhalation pulling up the muscles around your pelvic floor, your sphincta up, contracting up. You send this energy up like a spiral of light into your midbrain, illuminating you to the light of this blissful awakening. And focus now on maintaining the state of stillness by holding your breath for as long as you comfortably can. Now you have 15 seconds remaining of this breath retention phase. Relax muscles in your chest, your diaphragm, your face. Just stay calm and at ease and enjoy that stillness. Five 4 3 2 one. Now let go with a hum. Now coming back to normal breathing, observing how you feel, noticing any changes. Congratulations, you have now just learned and experienced how to do summer breath intermittent hypoxic training. So if this felt really good then imagine doing a whole 20 to 60 minute full deep dive session. You can find a variety of these on the summer breath app inside our courses like the 21-day awakening journey and in our instructor's classes. Wow, that was quite the experience. Nash, I feel great. Oh, you're muted, Nash. Yeah. How you feeling? Feeling good. I feel great, man. I feel revitalized. I feel revitalized. You know, it's been a busy day. That's just five minutes. That's just five minutes, guys. You do a few more rounds of the breath holds. It builds up and you get into really beautiful states. That's amazing. And and I'm curious, Nash, like when it comes to because I'm feeling the effects right now in my body, right? I'm sure a lot of you are feeling it too u as you're listening to this session, watching this session. Um do you use this to reprogram your mindset or allow yourself to activate fun self? Yeah. Yeah, we have other sessions that are we call them neurosmatic programming where we use special creative visualization tools, techniques to use the right visualization. We use a mind movie technique and um you know really tuning in what you want, seeing what you see, feel, feeling what you feel, hearing what you hear. If you were living and breathing that moment that you want to call in and then seeing the scenes of the results of the results of the results that make you feel really good when you think about them. And when you change your state like that and then charge it up with a breath and hold your breath then it it starts to change that brain neurogenesis because the orgasmic states which is what we're evoking here is the similar chemistry of what's created during orgasm. um that is actually what stimulates neurogenesis and and makes the brain change according to your will. That's amazing. This one was just purely focused on the technique. But yeah, when you use it with guided meditation. So check out the app, Sarah Breath app. There's loads of those sorts of sessions on there. There's a whole section called manifest with lots of different manifesting type journeys. Fantastic. Thanks for sharing Yurash. I'm curious. You know, it's been such an insightful session where not only did you dive into the science side of how breath works, but also how you were able to blend these different elements from science to music to experiential to to spiritual to energetic all into this framework called soma breath work. What is what is one truth or one practice that our listeners today can start implementing to help them live a wealthier life? Um I think you need you need daily rituals that um that changes your state in a positive way that last. So you know a lot of people change their state and try to get high with artificial means. So substances, cocaine, alcohol, so on and so forth. And it actually makes you crash and go lower afterwards. And also like things like psilocybin that's used for neutropics or psychedelic like experiences. You're not going to do big doses of psilocybin every day either. So with the breath, true, right, we can make it much more um sustainable and more in your control. Plus, we can make a similar effects to all of the medications that we take and recreational drugs with the breath. So, what I invite people to do is to find some kind of ritual. It doesn't have to be breath work. Anything that makes you change your state in a positive way that lasts, that doesn't have big crashes um right from the start, from the morning. So that sets you up because how you feel influences how you think and your decisions influence influence your actions and results in your life, right? So, you know, you could have all of the strategies, all of the tools, all the techniques, have the best mentors, but if you feel like all right, and it happens often, and you start to use substances to make yourself feel higher and they're going to have side effects, then you're going to have lowquality feelings, which are going to lead to low quality decisions and affects your actions and results. So, you're going to be low quality. So you need low high quality states of consciousness and being. And so I recommend things like sauners, uh cold plunges, that rotation of I call it contrast therapy, going from hot to cold, hot to cold, right? And breath work. These are the three best tools. And then living a a lifestyle where you eat consciously, where you're not eating processed foods. If if your identity because what you do most of the day is your identity. It becomes your identity, right? So if your identity is that of a doctor, but you know deep down inside and we all know it. We all have a knowing, but we're faking it being a doctor. We did it because our mom told us to do it. It's safe, secure profession, right? you you will you that if your core values and beliefs don't match your identity you you create a dissonance and you get disease that is disease it's a spiritual disturbance but if your core identity matches your core values so what your identity is on the external world matches your internal like real truth identity your true identity which you have to discover it takes time to find that out then you live in bliss. Until those two things happen, you're you're in disease. That's incredible. And and gosh, Nash, you're so wise. I feel I can talk to you forever, but I also want to respect your time. So, you know, if I may, I just want to ask you one last question because you brought it up quite a few times, right? How did you discover your true core values? I had to lose everything first. So, you know, I I hope people don't have to do what I did to figure that out, but I had to die. And that was when I was blood 40 times a day and on the toilet seat and losing a third of my body weight. That was my body transforming like a butterfly, like a caterpillar into a butter. It was like a becoming a new person. So, that's it was that process. It was also a lot of it was guided universally like I don't know if we have even that much control about things. I think all we can do is control what happens within us like the internal world. So I don't even know what guided me through it. It's like almost like I think when you really strongly manifest something um the universe starts to guide you and you go on autopilot automatic intelligence and through that process one thing led to another and actually Tony Robbins I'd say started the journey like in 2007 but I was still not living my truth because I worked my way up the corporate ladder right I was too scared to go on my own and stand on my own two feet and be my own boss I was still going down the safe corporate ladder route But my truth was to be be an entrepreneur. And when you're you lose everything and you have to burn all bes you you wake up pretty quickly to who you truly are to survive. Wow. Quite often. Wow. And then it's like just learning a lot about spirituality, religion, you know, Mind Valley courses helped a bit with that. um having good mentors, good guides. Mhm. Getting rid of all all the old friends that weren't align with who I am. Okay. Cuz you know it if when people are very honest with themselves, they know when they're hanging out with a bunch of people, they're doing why they're doing it. Are they hanging out with that bunch of people because they feel insecure otherwise and these people make them feel cool, but they don't really like to do all the things that these people do like smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol. Um or like, you know, cuss people and put people down and and moan about everything. Um we know if we're faking it. We know it. Everyone knows it. They're just too scared to admit it. Because after death the number one fear is the fear of feeling out. We have actually four fundamental fears. The fear of death, the fear of feeling out. This is tribal. Like when you um are kicked out of the tribe in the olden days, you're dead pretty much and you die a horrific death with no one. You're alone. Yes. So, it's we still have that. We're all tribal at nature. So, when we feel like we're kicked out of the tribe, even though we don't like the tribe, right? Really, we're faking being in that tribe. We don't adear to their values anymore. Maybe we've evolved a bit. Maybe we had a wake up. All right. Um, we get It's so scary to leave that tribe. It is. It is. It's incredibly uncomfortable. How did you ride through that? How did you how did you leave your tribe? I couldn't go back. I knew that made me diseased. My body broke down. Here's the thing. If you if you override the conscious mind, your your unconscious your your which is a lot of who you are, your nervous system, your hardware, your automatic intelligence will force you out of that situation by giving you a disease. All right? Or something else. You might like get divorced. That's quite traumatic. your wife might get fed up with you because you don't fit in with them and their values anymore. And so you'll unconsciously do all these things on autopilot that makes her hate you or disconnect from you and then she dumps you anyway, right? Or wow, you know, you get fired from work or so on and so forth or you you end up doing something crazy when you're drunk and that shifts you out, right? Yeah. So um yeah the automatic intelligence guides us more than we think more than we think right right and that's activated with the breath as well you know so you can program it with breath consciously you become your own programmer so yeah so these are the things I think help you wake up once you and you need a process and it helps having the right community around you that's what I've tried to build with s breath is a community of people just like me who I love to hang out with. Everyone who comes to our treats workshops I love. They're all on the same wavelength and and if they're they're stuck in another vibration, you know, they they they morph into ours eventually by just doing the work. And uh so yeah, that's what I want to spread in the world. Naturally high, happy, healthy people. Cuz people who are naturally high, happy, and healthy go on to do nice things to others. They're kind and compassionate, considerate. It's miserable people who make others more miserable, the world more miserable. As I said, how you feel influences your actions. Um, so I want to make more of the good feelings in the world naturally. That's a beautiful mission. Yeah. And you're already well on track. So, you know, thank you for everything you do, Nash. And, uh, thank you for spending time with us today. Uh, so so grateful for you. So you know peace. Thank you. Peace. How do you feel everyone after the breath work session by Nash? Can you share in the chat? Like I said after the breath work I felt revitalized. I felt like tingling sensations all over my body. And I really really love how he said that it's also about using your body as a vehicle as a a tool to let go of the fear you have in other places and areas in your life. The fear of holding your breath even though you're actually going to be fine, but there was a programming in your mind that said, "No, no, no, you're not. You have to breathe." Right? Uh, and by letting go of that fear, you train your mind to also let go of other fears in your life. How do you feel? Jonathan said, "I feel light." I love that. Jonathan Ha Hazra Hazra said, "Great feeling." That's wonderful. Kochi said, "Feeling so fresh in my brain. That's how I feel right now." Um, I'm I'm loving seeing all these comments. Thank you for participating. And again, this is something that you guys can do every single day, right? Um, there's also a saying from Navy Seals, right? If you guys ever heard of it, is that there's the 40% rule. So, if you feel like you're at your limit, usually you're actually only about, you know, you have another 40% to go, right? So, uh, benchmark wise. So, I think Mirage really introduced a new way for us to really practice this in our lives to use breathing, which is what we're doing anyways, right? But to survive. Um, and another thing I also want to share with you guys is because before the interview, uh, Nash also had a quick chat about this and he also said that a lot of us forgot to even breathe sometimes. So, I'm I'm guilty of that sometimes and now I'm a lot more conscious obviously thanks to the friends I have reminding me. Have you ever felt like when you're nervous or really deep in thought or just sort of like um um in a situation of stress, you stop breathing? Who here relates with that? Can you share that in the chat? I used to do that. So whenever I'm like deeply thinking or brainstorming or in a moment of stress, suddenly I stop breathing. And then friends like me would say, "You're not breathing. Take a breath. I take a breath in and suddenly I realize, wait a second, the reason why things seem worse than they are and I'm drawing worse circumstances to me is because I stop breathing." When you start breathing life into your body again, when you allow yourself to take in that oxygen like like you said, right? Um when you breathe correctly, you create all these amazing neurotransmitters in your brain like a a cocktail of positive chemicals for your being. So when you do that, suddenly the world seems brighter and you also attract higher vibrational synchronicities. So I want to invite you all if you do that either number one start cultivating awareness. It's okay. We all start somewhere, right? I was there. And uh just note it down. Whenever you stop breathing, you say, "Oh, start breathing." Another trick I found is to ask your trust trusted loved ones. So, you know, your family or your friends, just let them know, "Hey, I found I have a tendency. Remind me to breathe." That's that's an amazing trick. All right. I am so so glad to hear you all sharing and connecting in the chat. Um, oh, Gwen said, "I am familiar with breath work and totally believe in its power. That is so promising." Thank you for sharing that and thank you for participating. Uh, Nina said that, you know, they're feeling high. So, that's that's fantastic. That's what I want you guys to feel after Ken's session to kick this off on a very high vibrational note for the last day of the Happy Wealth Summit. Thank you for participating. Now with that being said, I also want you guys to take a note of what Nash said, which is how he emphasized that abundance start from a calm nervous system. Did you guys know how calm he was? You know, like the moment we start the interview, right? Just like sitting back, leaning on one side, the way he talks, the way he presents himself, he's fully present, he's fully comfortable. And that's a state where you allow your your nervous system to really function at its peak performance state and uh be able to make great decisions and attract more abundance into your life, right? Naturally high. So I want to invite you all today to start practicing breath as well, right? Take take a deep breath whenever something feels a bit uncomfortable, right? And start letting magic happen in your life too because you know all the magical stories he shared, right? It's not to um how should I say? It's not to impress you. It's to impress upon you of what is possible. Okay. Now, let's move from inner rhythm to business. All right. But not just any business. I'm talking about purposedriven business because you're likely to have seen our next speaker online before either on stage or, you know, like in in a seminar teaching people how to use digital platforms to grow their impact. What sets him aside is that he is not just teaching tactics. He really really teaches with heart and it is none other than John Lee. I saw a few people mention his name in the chat earlier. And John is a serial entrepreneur and international speaker and the mind valley teacher of 7 figureure creator. If you have heard of John's work before, type in the chat. I know Mariluna is here. Uh very excited about John. I see you in the chat. And the thing is he started from humble beginnings you know but he went on to build a multi-million dollar empire and now he empowers people around the world to launch digital businesses and monetize their their passion and their expertise and he does so with so much joy and passion. So if you are excited for John please buckle in and let's welcome onto the stage John Lee. I am super excited to welcome my new guest. He's my dear brother. We kind of look like brothers, too. So, I'm so happy to introduce him. Before that, let me just uh read a little bit of his bio because he is so impressive. So, his name is John Lee. John Lee is a globally recognized entrepreneur, educator, and author best known for helping people build profitable business and personal brands through social media. He's a creator of the 7 figureure creator program on Mind Valley, which teaches students how to turn their passion, knowledge, or creativity into a scalable a scalable online business. Listen to this. John became a self-made million by the age of 27. I became by the age of 29. So he's two years younger. Through property investing and online education, his success was not just financial, but it also sparked a deeper mission to help others escape the time for money trap and create wealth by doing what they love. This is exactly what I teach. So that's why we are very close. John has been featured in Forbes, the Wall Street Journal, and Business Insider. With 2.2 million followers on Instagram, and I'm sure there are four more million on other ones uh presence across platform like YouTube, John is currently one of the leading voices in the creator economy. John Lee, thank you, John, for uh coming to the Happy Well Summit. You know, I'm so honored to be here. just brother that the work that you do the impact that you make uh the lives that you've changed is just and you've also helped me so much in in my career as well. So thank you brother it's it's a real honor to be here. Yes and I just heard the most amazing and happy news. So can you tell the audience? So Ken and I were in Bali together about a year ago. Um and you know in fact even even before this you don't may not know the story the exercise you and I did in Colombia first we made intention the intention is I want a big book deal I want to impact millions of lives I want to become a New York Times bestseller but to do that you need a good publisher and so um Ken just you know again from his heart he he made a recommendation and because of that now I've been signed by um Hay House so Brother, I'm so indebted to you that thank you so much. I am so excited when I heard about this news. So, you deserve the, you know, book deal and I think you through Hay House, you're going to impact millions of people. So, I'm so proud as your brother. You know, I was already proud of you, but I'm even more proud. So, uh I'm so excited. I'm actually more excited about your book than my book. I have done so many books. So, you know, so I'm I'm so happy. I can't really wait till I I until I help you in any ways. But he doesn't need much help my help because how many millions of people you have on all the social media platform across all platforms? About six million now. So So it's a country John Lee. You put it like that. Yeah. The whole country is following you. So he is so influential but as you can see he's so heartwarming, generous and so kind. So um you know he's uh so well known but he talks to anybody at almost like you know you're a friend and uh it's so deceiving you know uh people think like you're just wow another guy and then wow you know uh after just they figure out who you are you know they just get get they get blown away. Okay. So today's theme, John, is how to turn your passion into wealth without burnout, a massive audience or compromising your purpose. This is so right for you because this is uh what you teach exactly right. Yeah. I mean look, I think the world is changing especially with the growth of artificial intelligence. Um anyone now I remember working in film industry. I'd have to work and train for years before even producing anything. Now I click a button and I can create a fulllength feature film in a few clicks. I mean the world is changing. We are becoming the creator and that has double meanings. The creator is in creating things to impact but we are the creator of our own lives. If people are into quantum energy and they're into quantum mechanics and physics, they'll understands there's multiple realities that can be shaped depending on how we create our life. And so if this is truly the time cuz you know what I realized, Ken? People don't want a job, but they also don't want a business, they actually want something in between that they're allowed to have their flexibility to be able to travel the world and also to make more income than in their jobs. It's it's really become an unprecedented times, especially with AI plus social media plus your passion equals wealth. Yes, exactly. It's it's scary. At the same time, it's so exciting because if you're making uh the same amount of money with your friend, say you said you make you're making about $50,000 or euros a year, your friend is the same, but with the help of AI, you're making 10 times more and your friend or you could be making 10% of what you make now. So there will be a 100 times disparity between the one who is using AI and the one who who cannot. So isn't that sort of exciting and scary at the same time? Well, I just believe that right now we we're living in unprecedented times where you can basically be anyone you want to be. You can I mean for example now you can be an avatar if you want to. So for example, there are so many things that you can do where I'll give you an example. I'm going to play you a video. And this is basically so what people can do now, they can take themselves, they can clone themselves, and now they don't even have to produce content if they choose not to. They can literally create something and then sell other people's products and services and that they're passionate about, but they may not have a business. They may not have a product, but they can use it to offer other people's products and services and get paid for it. So if I just show you this example, right? So this looks like me, right? But if I click play, what problem content? It's one of the biggest challenges that businesses face is no leads, no sales, no sales, no revenue, no business. It's as simple as that. In fact, when you learn how to leverage content, you then know how to create avatars. In fact, I'm not even real. This is an AI version of John. And it looks pretty realistic. You can see that I'm moving. I'm talking. And for most people, if you don't know who I am, you would never be able to tell the difference. That's all AI, right? Really? That's all AI, but looks and sounds like me. So, we've got to the level now where we can clone ourselves and have our clones do all the work for us. So, before we had to learn the skill, right? So, I'll give an example. If if you look at before, right, you have the knowledge here. Okay? So, we have knowledge. So, this is the knowhow. But where we go right now, we go from the knowledge to the result which is over here. But before we had to do but now AI does the doing for us which produces the result. So this is why again Ken we I'm so glad that you're running this summit because we are now opening the world up to endless possibilities. Mhm. Yeah. And at the same time people who don't know how wonder what what the heck is happening right now. So for those people it's just so fast and u it's interesting how people relate with AI. Um you know I just taught a seminar the other day and I asked the Japanese people uh you know there are about 300 some people how many of you are using AI and then like almost everybody you know and then what do you ask AI and then and the answer was like what's the weather tomorrow so like you know you can ask Einstein what is oneplus 1 you know so I think uh if you don't know what to ask uh you you get very mediocre answers. So I think you need to have some intelligence to do with AI. What do you think? Well, it's the application of AI like everyone talks about the tools, right? Basically what people have been given is a magic spade. In the olden days, Kenny, when people when everyone's digging for gold, you have to sell the spades. But now we have a magical spade. The spade can do anything we want it to do. If I want it to speak a different language, I can also do that. So, for example, um I like to show people this example, right? So, and let me share this. The skills you can learn is the power of artificial intelligence. Learning that how to put into businesses and learning how to monetize it. I show that as an example because that is a direct application of using AI and again we talk about how do we turn our passion into a profession and then we're able to create wealth from that. Well, imagine this. Imagine if I can take Ken Honda, I can clone Ken Honda and then I can have millions of videos of Ken Honda talking about different aspect as aspects of all the books you've ever written and then all these people then come back to Ken Honda and then there's business to be made there and then each person just takes a cut. This this is some of the applications that can be done like I don't speak Japanese but that video of me is speaking Japanese. So actually um and this is crazy because now when we look at the application so you know you've you've very kindly always offered me to come to Japan and have some nice nice food there and also to do a keynote to your audience but my objections always been well can I don't really speak Japanese and even if I did the you know the people that actually want to continue working with me to maybe get consulting for the company I wouldn't be able to communicate with them but now the game changes Because now you have Google's new AI where now you and I can have a meeting just like we are now and I can set the setting. So yours will be set to Japanese and mine will be set to English. So when I speak to I know you understand English I know that but let's say you didn't. I would speak to you in English but it would be translated in my voice to Japanese. So you would hear it in Japanese when you speak to me in English. Uh sorry in Japanese I would hear it in English your voice and it's simultaneous translation. It's like instant. So you can't even tell. And it does it in our voice. It's not like a dubbed voice either. So it's the application of the things that we need to learn in AI in everyday life for us to people say, John, is AI going to take over people's jobs? Some jobs? Yes. But it we should be using it to expand our jobs. That's the key. Yes. Uh, I heard uh, is it a week ago or so that uh, uh, Google just uh, introduced that? I heard about it, but I don't know how good it is, but I bet in a couple of years it'll be perfect. So, uh, we can all speak in Japanese. Yes, I'll be able to do talk to your community in English, but they'll hear it in Japanese. Yeah, that'll be fun. But the thing is you know because of the technology uh if you have the content yes you can expand but if you are if you have no content either you speak English, Japanese or German uh it it doesn't work. So and also people a lot of people have uh intelligence because you can use uh uh uh chbpt generated stuff. So I think in the next uh age what what counts is the personality. It's not the knowledge. It it's not it's like how much you know it's who you are. So I think people will be attracted to not your content but your personality. So John Lee I think you will go ahead. You fly high because your personality is outstanding. You're so fun, generous and cute. So I think you know people will be attracted not to your content of course of course with your content but your personality to be kind your giving and also just sharing. So I think in the age uh of AI instead of just a guy talking about super high-tech stuff with no heart you know I think people will be attracted to the personality. What do you think? Well, you know what they say, you can't see the traits in others of which you do not possess yourself. Everything you say there, brother, you have the same you you have the same traits. So, you you are absolutely right. And again, thank you for for the very kind words. I I just think right now in the world that we are living in, we have to make more impact because now we have more tools. We don't just have a magical spade. We have a humongous spade that we can do magic. It's a magic spade that can do anything. I mean, you want to create an app. I can click a button and create. Literally, if you and I had an idea for an app now, you would say, "John, what is the app?" And by the time we'd finished this event, the whole app would be completed. That's the beauty of this. And for those of you listening and and and and paying attention to this, like like now it's unprecedented. We can do things in a way that allow us to be super human now. Like emails, you don't have to respond to emails anymore. There's there's I mean Google can do it, but there's also another software called Fixer. You just basically download it, put it to your email, it will analyze how you send and write emails, and it will reply in draft to all the emails, and you you read it. You click, yeah, I like that. Send. You read it. Oh, I don't like that. You change a little bit. Click send. You save another two, three hours, a week or a day, depending on how many emails you get. So, and and and and you talk about, well, how do we actually find the content to produce? So, everyone in here right now, you must have something that you're passionate about because we're talking about passion. How do you create passion? So, let's say your passion is running, right? Let's say your passion is running. So all you need to do and I cuz I also want to give some tactical things that people can actually go away and start doing. If I type in how to run faster, right? Mhm. How to run faster. So basically what you do is you type in questions that people would ask. Then you come to this section here, right? If you scroll down, it says this section that says people also ask. So you come over here, you click the button five times. 1 2 3 4 5. Now you get all these questions. How do I increase my running speed? What is the trick to run faster? What is the 8% rule of running? How do you increase your speed? How to breathe when running? How to be explosive? These are all questions people are asking in Google. Right? So all you need to do is answer the question. So when people struggle with content to produce, we don't. So there's three things I talk about, Ken. Number one is it's not about content creation, it's about documentation. But it's also not even about documentation, it's about demonstration. So if I am passionate about running and I love running, then I want to create content, then I just go to Google, I use that process and I just ask a question, right? How do I run faster? Then you just answer the question cuz very few people can present on camera or not when I say very few people a lot of people are not naturally gifted at that but everybody can answer a question and a question then gets recorded and then put on social media where millions of people can see it and therefore that's how you make money by being on social media is by talking about the thing that you do. So you're now able to get exposure in the thing that you do. But I bet some people are very shy, you know. I I was uh very private. So until about 6 years ago, so that means that uh for 14 years, I was very active as a speaker and a writer without uh this um exposing my pictures. So some of you want to hide your identity or hide your face because you want to keep your uh privacy. I'm sure you uh a lot of people talk to you at the airport. We're like, "Hey, John, I'm I'm watching you. Does Does that bother you or you feel energized?" No, I feel energized with that. I mean, I'll give an example. I was at a steak I was at a steakhouse um cuz it was my, you know, celebration. And as I was there, the guy said, "Oh my god, you're John Lee. I I watched your stuff on social media. I listen to your podcast." And then when I go to the other restaurant, that restaurant had said, you know, they said, "Could we take a picture of you?" Of course, we took a picture. They posted on their social media, but the restaurant down the road, they follow the steakhouse. Oh. Right. So, so when I went there, oh my god, yo, John Lee, you was at the other place cuz I like having breakfast there. So, there'll be times where like my breakfast is paid for, my dinner's paid for, and it's just it's incredible. Like, I don't expect it, but I go and pay for the bill and say, "Oh yeah, this the bill's been paid for." I said, "By who?" "Oh, yeah, those guys." And they I look over and they give a a quick wave. And and I'm sure you get this a lot as well in in Japan when you're flying around the world, Ken. It's it's the it's the most incredible feeling when someone comes up to you and they say, "John, your work changed my life." And you see what people's lives used to be compared to what they are now. And it's just this incredible transformation. I'll give you an example. I met um a student in one of my keynotes and she's a student and she's like John like I feel so inspired of what you do you know my parents asked me to to you know go and get a job and graduate and do this but I don't feel passionate about that I just want to make an impact and I said look just do what I tell you to do and I told her I did I said do these three things and she did and I came back the year after to do the keynote again because the my ratings on that talk I got one of the highest ratings and they asked me to come back again to do a second keynote. So, as my talk finished, she stopped me in the hallway. I said, "John, you never guess what?" I just handed my dissertation in and you know, now I've got my first two clients. The clients are paying her £2,000 per month. This is someone who has just finished school. It's It's incredible to to have people think a different way. And it's just amazing that you're able to have your work transcend through the digital space. And this is why I think when we talk about quantum energy, you know, I believe that I don't know, I mean, I'm sure you've heard of this process where it's it's the double slit experiment. They basically have a piece of card, they have one little slit, they shine particles through it, and on the wall behind it, it shows one line. They cut another hole. They shine another particles through it. There's now two lines. But there isn't. There's multiple lines which represent multiple realities. The moment the moment you observe the process, the lines disappear and they turn back to two. What does that mean? That means the sheer process of observing it changes the outcome. Meaning when we change our perspective on something, we move into a different reality. Right? If I say I give an example, Ken, I almost nearly almost didn't fly to Colombia. I was that close to not flying. Had I not? Yes. Because in my mind, I was like, why would I want to fly to Colombia? It's miles away. It's too hot there. I was making all these excuses up and I'm not even speaking at the event. Why am I flying there? I'm not even getting paid to speak. Why am I flying? I got to pay for my own flights, right? So, but something called me to be there. My mind didn't want to do it. My heart demanded me to do it. When I was there, that's when you and I met for the first time. And I don't know if you remember the game we did when we were had the piece of paper. We were walking around the room and we started giving it to random people. when vision said stop you and I stopped and we were facing each other and we unraveled the the the paper right and that's when you know I was familiar with your work but I didn't know that I could I mean all your concepts and philosophies just blew me away I mean happy money the concept and I talked to you about the process I was going through and you just guided me through that process and and you're absolutely right like more money came I didn't expect it but it went like you said it went into the ether and more returned and then I invited you to come to Bali. Then we spent three days in Bali together. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, it was incredible. I It was the best time I had with you there, man. It was I felt so blessed that you were there and you gave a keynote and all of my participants, you've changed everyone's life in that room about money. It was just incredible. And then you sent the video of you and Amy and Helen. And then 6 months later I'm signed. Like can you imagine if I said no to going to that that is the double slit. I had multiple realities. One of them was fate like fading. When I make a decision I observe it. It solidifies. And now you and I talking to this and now you're going to again there's there's hundreds of thousands of people going to see this right and you got the book deal and all the other things you know because of think of the impact and from my side I was exactly thinking the same way. So I I was a little late for saying yes to the Colombia. So like uh uh and I texted Bishop I don't know I I'm not even speaking there right it's a long way so I don't know if I should go there or not. And Bishan said, you know, it's the people, so either, you know, you get paid or or what, uh, you should be there. So, he's very convincing, right? Okay, I'll I'll be there because this be my first time to uh to land in South uh South America and uh here, you know, I found my uh brother from another mother. So, this is so uh so true. So, when you feel called to, you should really act on it, right? Well, that's why so the last talk I did at the manifesting summit was when we talk about manifestation, what is the formula for manifestation? And it's the first there's two there's two rules to this. The first rule is your intention. Your intention has to be set. When your intention is set, it guides you. And the next step is action cuz action creates frequency. So we have wealth frequency. And we turn up the frequency by taking more action, by taking more risks, by getting called to somewhere. You don't know why you're there. Your in your head, it feels like a waste of time, but your heart knows you're meant to be there. You don't know why. You don't know how, but you just have to be there. And so, this has happened quite a few times. So tuning into your intuition and I don't know if anyone on this session um believes in string theory. We're all like we have these invisible threads that go through us that bring us together somehow someway. We're just together. So that was the first time was with you. And then I did another keynote in Singapore with you and I with Robert Kiyosaki. And I didn't know you were even speaking at that event. I mean, I I I knew later down the line, but when I said yes to that, I didn't know you were there. And you were there again. Me neither. I was like, "Wow, you're supposed to be in London, right?" Yes. Yes. Yeah. And then we're in Singapore together. So, like I meant to be with Ken, like something special, something magical happens. Yeah. That night was also fun too, you know. Uh I remember you took me up to the uh you know uh sailing pool and then we denied because I was not staying, you know. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah. So, so there are so many reasons to appreciate you. Uh John, you know, your mastermind was so much fun and the people you attract are very kind, very generous. You know, I was kind of expecting like a very hardcore entrepreneurs, but all the people are very relaxed and uh I I couldn't tell if they were interre uh entrepreneurs, but when I talked to them, wow, you're really great. So uh you know how to attract uh the right people and fun people. Well they say that you know your your your community becomes your reality. You hang around people you become like them. You hang around people who take action. Your it's osmosis. It's it's resonance. This is why yes I talk a lot about marketing but a lot what I don't talk a lot about is my spiritual side. Um, it's kind of something I've been practicing kind of indirectly and just believing the process. Many years ago, I don't think I've ever told anyone this. And when I was in my teens, I did a tar tarot card reading, right? And they pulled out three cards. One of the cards had this card on there and it's called the magician. And at the time, I was doing a lot of stage magic, right? So, sorry. Street. Oh, really? Yeah. So, you give me a deck of cards, I can show you some some good some some good, you know, card magic. So, I've always been inspired by that. But one of the cards was called magician. I said, "What does this mean?" And the tarot card reader said to me, he said, "Anything you put your mind to magically will become real." I was like, "What does that mean?" Like basically, now I interpret what she means is basically molding your reality. Imagine your reality is just a lump of clay, but we're able to push and pull on it. And the way we push and pull is by our decisive action. Do I decide to go this way or do I go that way? Because either way I take I end up in a different location. So, so and that's why I do social media so much because you never know who's watching your social media. That's how I got um with with Mind Valley actually. Like can you can you imagine if I didn't put videos out there? I wouldn't have met a guy called Thaddius Chroma who did big events in Germany. I wouldn't have spoken in Germany which means he wouldn't have seen me speak in which case he then moved from Germany to Dubai. I was in Dubai. We wouldn't have become friends and we wouldn't have gone bowling with Floyd Mayweather where Vish Lakani was. That's where we met and then after that we went to karaoke and then from there he said hey you know what do you do? I told him what I did and he tested me because I was in Dubai at the time. Then I spoke at the Dubai Mind Valley Summit. So had I not been involved in any of that, had I not put those videos up, you and I would not have be having this conversation. Wow. Wow. Butterfly effect. And I think uh if people are not watching this, you know, they would not start their own thing. So that imagine that because this will be viewed at least from 50,000 to 100,000 people. And uh imagine the impact, you know, and and then I'm going to uh put subtitles into Japanese and uh um a lot of people um hundreds of thousands of people are going to watch this. So after watching this, okay, I'm going to start my Instagram. I knew it. I have to do it, but okay, John Lee, thank you. I'm going to start right now. So you have such a magic wand to say, "Hey, everybody, just stop whatever you're just wandering around. You can do it." So you're such a magical teacher to push people in a fun way. You're not like a you know uh those exercise guy go. You just kind of like you can do it. And you made it sound so easy. And actually people who think oh that may be easy can uh have a very easy easy way. Well it's it's how your mind thinks isn't it? Like if you think the gym is going to be hard it's going to be hard. M but if you have a preconceived idea then it's going to be hard. But it's kind of like unfortunately when we went to school we go to school get a job we have to learn everything so we know it then we take the exam and then we're tested on it. The problem is when you embark on the journey of entrepreneurship your learning is done by doing. So it's the other way around. you have to do it first because you don't know what to do and then you fail and the failures tell you what to do. So actually when people if they you know as as you're listening to me right now um I want you to think about not the how. It's not about the how right it's your why. When you get started you get started because of why you want to do it. For me it's about my parents. Right? People say to me what's your biggest achievement? It's not taking a company public. It's not making millions of dollars. is to be able to retire my parents. That was been one of my biggest dreams that of why I did what I did because now I can spend time with them and they're factory downstairs now cooking nice nice meals for me, right? I get to spend more time with them, right? Wow, you're such a nice son. I try to be because I travel a lot, but the time that I've got here, I want to spend with them. But the unknown is where the learning is done. The unknown teaches you the house. So your best teacher is called unknown. But people don't think of it like that. They think, "Oh, I got to know everything first. I got to get perfect. I got to get good." And nothing happens from being perfect because actually perfect is flawed. You're looking for the flaws. And that's why people get to analysis paralysis. They don't take action. Yeah. I think there are two kinds of people since we we're cave cave men or cave women uh when we see a mammoth some entrepreneurs think that's my dinner and they go after it and then sir there are some others who who so see a mammoth oh god I have to run and hide so I think you're definitely oh mamos okay so we will form a team of you know people like you go there you go there and then we just hunt so I I know you see opportunities And then you don't you don't lose a moment to grasp an opportunity. Were you always like that? You know, I I Yeah, I was always like that. I remember many years ago, you know, I don't know if remember the old Super Nintendo gaming systems. Remember those? Street Fighter. One of my favorite companies, Capcom. I love Capcom and all this fighting games that that they did. So my friend had this console and he basically sold like he played all the games like I want to get rid of it. I was like how much you want to sell it for? And he said £45. So I thought okay well let me give you £45 and I would take that machine walk all the way to and in the in our days we had this thing called swap shop. You basically take your items and you can swap it for things or you get cash. So I took it to the swap shop and I I bought it for like4 and I sold it for 60. So I made £15 on it. So I saw the opportunity there. What I call intrinsic value. And intrinsic value is everywhere if you just look hard enough. That's that's why I say with the world we're living in right now, anyone can create a video on the things that they're passionate about, put it on the internet, and get paid to create content, right? or get paid to make an offer on the internet or get paid to promote other people's stuff. Like now people can replace their salaries like that because now AI does the work for them. You see? I see. So but at the same time people are feeling little nervous about putting themselves out there online. So what help you what helped you build your confidence to share your message? So here's what I realized. It's not about me. about them. So, I used to go on stage go, "Oh my god, I'm get stage fright." I hardly ever get stage fright anymore. Right now, I'm nervous when I go on stage, but I don't get stage fright. Why? Because I'm not thinking about me. I'm thinking about them. Like, my my intention is how can I serve the audience more? What can I say that will cause a ripple or an inception in their life that derails them off the path that they're on and rail them on to success? That's what I want. That's my intention. That's why one of my beliefs is should always leave people with more value than you met them with. I'll give you an example, right? I don't know why, but I was um I was basically on the plane back. The lady next to me, she seemed really frustrated and you know, her entertainment wasn't working. I'm like, "Okay, I need some sleep, a bit tired." And I just looked over and I said, "Do you want my seat?" Right? By the way, these are business class seats, right? So, you know, they're not cheap. I said, "Do you want my seat?" And she said, "Are you sure?" I said, "Well, I'm going to sleep anyway, and I got I got my iPad." So, I don't know why, but I know that was meant to happen because at some point later in life, I'm going to meet her and she's going to remember that. I don't know why. I don't know where, but I know I I already know it's going to happen. It's like there's these different realities that are working and is a film. Have you ever seen a film called Sliding Doors? No. So, Sliding Doors? Yes. So, so, so Sliding Doors is um a film and it's got this actress called um Gwyneith Poutro in it, right? So, this is the lady here, right? Gwyneth Poutro. And so, so basically the whole thing is about her making a decision not to get on the train. So, one day she gets on the train and the next day um and it shows it again, but this time she misses the train. when she misses the train, she gets home early and she catches her husband cheating on her. So her whole life changes, right? But the other way, she gets on the train and she gets to work and she never goes home. So the film is about two things. And you know the funny thing is the funny thing is I was just with Gwennneth Paltro in LA. Wow. Right. And it just reminds me and I'll tell you why this is a significant moment. Um, I said to Gwyneith, I said because I was going to invest in a company with her, her her company that so her and I had a Zoom call in 2022 for a company called Wonder, right? So, I almost became an investor in that company when I stopped her to have a quick a very quick conversation. I said, "Do you remember the call?" and she thought, "Oh, like so she remembers the company Wonder, but we wouldn't have been able to connect had I not been on Clubhouse cuz Clubhouse is the investor also that gives the deals to Gwennneth Paltro as well. So this whole thing takes me back to again this quantum realm of alternate realities and multiple realities happening at the same time. And we all we have to do is we can mold and create the reality that we want if we choose to do so. We have the power to do that. We have the power to say yes, I'm flying to Colombia. We have the power to say yes, I'm going to come on this this this event with Ken Honda. We have the power to say yes, I'm going to be in Bali. We're going to spend we're going to spend some time together. And then it creates ripples because almost all the bad things that happen to us in our life is the universe testing us. It's testing us. Are you ready to make that jump to a new reality to a new quantum? That's why they say now the quantum computers how it can have so much processing power. It doesn't process based on this universe. It pulls the power from multiple universes and realities. And it's weird how it works, but they've proven that teleportation can be done now. That would be fun for somebody like us. Yeah. We can just walk. Yeah. No more flights. So, I'm I'm super excited for everyone here watching this because you can do anything you want to do. I call this the the expelaris technique where in Harry Potter we got expelaris and you can anything you want into real life. Yeah. Want it enough with enough intention. Yes. Amazing. I I I forgot you're British, too. Yes. Yeah. I think British has a you know uh this tradition of just make waving a magic wand. Right. So, I'm just curious about uh what's up with you because you're traveling. You just get back from uh got back from uh Los Angeles uh Singapore and Dubai. Where are you heading to? What are you going to do? So, we're going to be in Austin and my good friend's um um Gio Giovani. So, he's going some big events on in Austin and also in Toronto. There'd be 2,000 people at each event. And wow, the business model is very different. I was I was with my billionaire friend and he said to me, John, like your business model, I said to him, I said, if you were me, what would you do? And he said, well, John, you fly around the world. You're in front of thousands and thousands. I think in a year, probably around 50,000 people a year, right? Mhm. in front in live audience and online it's millions of people. He said, "John, this like this these small 50,000 people that you're in front of every single year." He said, "If there's 50,000 people there, instead of getting paid your speaker fee, imagine if you just have 1% of those people that work with you." And he said, "If I was you, I would take your IP, advise companies, and take equity from the company." And it's interesting because in 2011 I shared the stage with Sir Richard Branson and Richard Branson's a billionaire. Not because I mean he's got an incredible heart to give and and he does incredible work. But the reason why he's a billionaire is he has 500 companies. I thought you know one day I want to have 500 companies myself where I just take my brand and I license it to these companies and I advise on them and I get paid a fee and I get equity. Well, if this if I'm in front of 50,000 people, 1% of 50,000 people is 500. Mhm. You see the intention I set in 2011. How it's all unraveling now and the action that I've taken to create the frequency to attract the opportunities to my life. So that's what I'm doing now. I fly around the world. I want to in I don't want to in I don't want to motivate people. I want to inspire people to action to actually do something. I I want the people in audience who sit there and go, "Oh, yeah. Uh, I I'll do it tomorrow. I'll do next week. I'll do it next week." I want to go, "No, I want to do it every now. I'm going to do it right now." That's what I want to inspire people to again derail them off the mediocre, you know, things that are happening in their life to actually push them to what they were meant to be, something special that's going to create something magical. That's what I want to do. And then I want to be able to advise them, right? Because the because when we look at business, business really business is energy. And you know this all too well. You were teaching me a lot of the stuff with money energy. But when I look at intrinsic value and and business, if money is a transference of energy, transference of intention, then when I see business, I don't see it as money. I see it as intention and problem solving and value. So if I help a company, if a company's making a million and I get them to 10 million or 100 million, then would it be fair for me to have some energy of that back? And a lot of people say yes. That's why people now give me, you know, someone said to me, John, I'll give you 50% of my commission. That's too much. That's too much. No, no, you need to keep most of it, right? So then I take a minority share, you know, and of course I still get paid a a fee as well. So that's kind of my business model now. Instead of spending 15, 20 years with one company, what I should have done was spend 20 years with a hundred companies and taking a small pie from each one. That's what I enjoy doing the most. I don't like being an operator. I love to be able to sit down with someone, say something in a certain way that moves the needle inside business. That's it feels like it's a good use of time if I do that. Wow, that's so amazing. And you're going to uh do a mastermind in those different cities. Yeah. So, we actually have masterminds in I mean we do them everywhere around the world. We do them in in in Singapore. We do them in um Europe, London, Amsterdam, um Austin, Barcelona, uh Las Vegas because I love So, I spend a lot of time in Vegas to watch all the show. I've watched pretty much every show. Good. Like good one. Actually, one of the best shows, magic show, Shim Lim. Amazing. Amazing. Next time, brother, I want to teach you watch shim limb in Vegas. Very good. Wow. All right. Yeah. So, okay. So, as we are approaching to the the the the end of the time, is there any final word for um for people watching this because they're all inspired and they want to know what's my next step? What would you say? You you know what? you know, Ken, you you've first of all, I owe you a debt of gratitude and and you know, you've you know, been my mentor and coach in in in the money space and I ran some things past you and you've been just so generous with you gifted me a title of a book that that'll probably be my second book, by the way, the one that you gifted me in Bali. So, I I will not forget that. Um, but the fact that you flew to Bali and you just you gave everything you brought I know you brought copies of your books for everybody in in in my event, you know, and I just and everyone I speak to, everyone like, "Oh, Ken's amazing." Like out of all the speakers like, "Oh, he's got he's got no ego, but he's so successful." Like, you are a true testament of how people should be. Now, I'm not kidding. So, you know, you you've been such an impact to my community. I I I want to return um to your community as well. I know everybody on here right now, you if you're looking for the next steps, if you want to get to the next level, if you're maybe unsure where you want to start in life, maybe you have something you're passionate about. Um, what I'm going to do, Ken, is I'm going to gift every single person on this summit right now who is part of your community, and they have to be part of your community, um, a complimentary ticket to attend one of our live masterminds in person. No kidding. Yeah. Now, the only thing I'll say about because obviously this has gone to 100,000 people, so that it's a lot of people. I just I just have to just do one thing because when we hire venues, venues are not cheap. We have to pay for coffees and and and venues and things like that. And in the past, we've had a lot of people say they're going to come and we hire a big venue and like they don't show up. So then of course there's a cost for us there. So all I'll ask is the tuition for the ticket will spend two days with me and I'll teach them how to do business and how to turn your passion into an income to create freedom. Um, all I'll ask is if you say you're going to come, if you say I'm definitely coming, then all we ask is um just a very small commitment fee, right? A small commitment fee like 97 bucks. Um, I mean, that doesn't even cover our cost, but it's just to say that when people say they're going to come that they will show up. So, what I'll do is um I think my team's put a little QR code here. if they just sort of scan that QR code in. If you scan that QR code, so I'll give you if you take out your phone and just scan that QR code, and it will take Give us a second. You know, it takes some time because people's phone are not really, you know, they're searching the phones. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll get I'll get the team to put the link into the chat as well. So, have that. So, once you've done that, um you should come to a page that looks like this. Okay. So you if you want to know what the masterminds are, the business accelerators teaching you how to start a business or grow a business from scratch and also to monetize and create more wealth and passive income. So um you can watch the video there, but if you scroll down, you'll have all the dates here. Um and then if you click this buy now button, here's what everything talks about. What's it about? What you're going to learn. Um these are some of the ones that we've run in the past and they're very sort of small and intimate. Um, so if you click the buy now button, you can see the tickets normally um $2,000. And that's, by the way, Ken, that's really what people have paid. That's what they pay to attend. Ah, so we have to keep it secret. Yes. Yes. So don't go spreading this. So use a discount code happy. H A P P Y. Uhhuh. Seven. Right. But you have to click So this is a coupon code. Put the coupon code in and click apply. And then it would just be $97. And then wow magic. Yeah, that's just a small commitment fee really. Just just so people shop. It's 2 days. And again, um when I told my team we're doing this, they're like, you're crazy cuz we don't even cover cost doing this. But can I know that your community they've learned from you? They understand how to not just make but hold money as well and spiritually. If I can show them how to do that, then what's in it for us? when these people become successful, maybe you'll give me the opportunity to maybe invest or consult for your company uh for all of you that come. So, this is my gift to all of you. Um and that's again Ken for me saying thank you to you for making a huge impact to my community as well. So, thank you so much. You're so generous and people who can make it so lucky. I was one of the I was at the one of the masterminds in B and it was so much fun you know I because I could get to ask John Lee because you're always in front of tens of thousands of people and now wow you're in front of us you and you're so casual uh you you done with us and lunch with us so thank you for being so generous and so normal with us so I really appreciate your part so I I'd be happy to fly anywhere for you. Oh, brother. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. And thank you for you and and the work that you've done and the impact you've made and you know, I can't wait to continue this journey with you to really impact people's lives and to change their lives financially but also spiritually as well. Thank you. Yeah. So, you know, I think by now people are figuring out that's why we become like soul brothers, right? Yeah. So, thank you, John Lee. And uh I hate to stop, but I have to let other people speak too. Okay. So, thank you so much, John. And uh I I love to see you soon uh somewhere on the planet. Uh the thing is I don't know where, but we'll definitely meet each other soon. Okay. Thank you once again. Arato. Thank you. Hello everyone. Okay. Can you guys hear me? Okay. I think we're having a little bit of a technical difficulty here. All right. Here we are. How's everyone feeling? Doesn't it sound like you're just listening to two brothers chatting along in a room having a lot of fun? Awesome. Yes. And so for everyone here, if you want to join uh and take up John's generous offer, uh I'll share the QR link for you guys as well. You can use your phone to scan, so it's a lot easier for you to. And uh the coupon code is happy 97. I see a lot of you by the way uh sharing it in the chat. So thank you for you know showing up for your community. This is exactly what I'm talking about to build a global community where we help each other out. We grow together. It's similar to how Ken and John helped each other out right on their respective journeys as well and they became so close and met John multiple times. Absolutely awesome person. Um you know you can tell he's very passionate right and he really is like that in real life. So, you know, if you don't want to just scan this, that's great. Uh, very feeble voice. Okay, got it. So, uh, just reading one of your comments. That being said, um, how do you guys feel about John's session? Can you type in the chat something that came up for you? I think John's session is definitely stepping into the more practical realm. And that's what we really wanted to uh create for you guys when we were speaking with John about what to talk about in in his summit session. Um, and I really love the idea that your best teacher is unknown. Yeah. Because like I I know fear of unknown is a very common fear. It's actually very innate in our human psyche, right? Because, you know, we don't know what's ahead of us. It could actually be worse than our current status quo. But that's also where all the magic can happen. So saying yes and choosing to show up, I emphasize on choosing, is where you're going to be able to really bring in this next level of wealth. You can't see the QR. Okay, someone said they can't see the QR, so I will bring it up to the stage again. Uh let me know if you guys can see it now and you can just take your phone and do a quick scan. Right. So um you know, John really uh is really giving us this as a gift for you all. So uh if you guys do call to it, please take action. All right. And you know I also want to say one more thing is that in the today's day and age right building wealth in alignment with your purpose is no longer a luxury. We have all these tools. Uh I know some of you in the chat said that social media is not um natural for you or you have resistance towards that. And I want to invite you to apply all the tools and principles that we discussed over the past three and a half days to really find out what the resistance is and release it. Maybe you can even try the breath work that Nash was talking about earlier um to really release that fear around social media because what I'm feeling is that a single reframe can really release yourself from that shackle. Um and it's really a calling nowadays to build wealth in alignment with your purpose. So, start thinking about the people that you want to serve. Uh, I know I used to get stage fright. Like I said before, if you guys tuned in before, um, I I was a very shy person, very reserved, uh, very socially awkward. So, stage was not a natural calling for me back then. But then I realized that that was fear programmed into me. I actually love being on stage and love showing up, but that was something that was programmed into me at the age of four. Not going to dive too much into that right now. Um but basically that began that journey of the shadow growing within me. Now I'm very grateful that people helped me heal that many speakers that you have seen in this summit. Grateful to have them as friends and I'm grateful that they help me. Again the theme of relationships on day three. How relationships can help you thrive in your wealth and your life. So I want to invite you all start thinking about how you can serve people and what you can create for them as a positive ripple and not just about ourselves. that really helps shift the frame. And I want to I want to invite you all uh if it's okay for um an action step. I want to invite you all to start thinking and maybe share what is one step you take today to start shifting from being a consumer to a creator. Right? That's something that John kept talking about. So um stop consuming, start creating uh or stop over consuming. I think I need to clarify that. So please share in the chat if you feel called to or you know think about that and start writing it down uh so that you can see yourself growing through action. Okay. Now whenever I spend time with our next guest I always get really inspired uh that because of her energy and her trust in herself and also her vibration. And her name is Florencia Andreas. I don't know if you guys uh if I pronounce it correctly, but I always try to say her last name correctly because Spanish is not my first language. Um, but yeah, she is an international best-selling author and she's the teacher of the champion mindset at Mine Valley. She's also an award-winning coach who helps people turn their knowledge into online programs. And she's even you you hear, you know, in her accent, she even works with many top thought leaders in Latin America. She has this really cool accent that every time I hear it, I just feel like I want to really get moving. So, you will hear her heart, her fire, her soul the moment she starts talking. So, please give a big round of applause to welcome Florencia on stage. I have another special guest. She is incredible. She's my dear friend and she's also a great mentor and she's a superstar u bestselling author and speaker Florencia Andres. Florencia, welcome. Thank you so much Ken for having me. It's such an honor and pleasure to be speaking with you and your audience today. Yes. Thank you so much. When you said yes to this, I'm so happy because you're my one of my dearest friends and also a friend from so far far away. you know, Japan and and South America is so far away. So, can you tell us where you're originally from? Yes. So, I was born and raised in Argentina and I moved to Europe many years ago, but uh I still have the the Latin spirit in me. And uh when I met you, I I was thinking it was like 15 years ago or so. um you had such a huge impact on me, Ken, that and you and your teachings and and how to shift my energy uh around money because you know coming from Argentina it's a beautiful country that has given me so many amazing things but when it comes to money uh you know it's a country that has gone through so much economic meltdowns and you know people living in in scarcity mode and thinking you know you have to struggle to make money and and so when I met you and you taught me about all these money wounds and how to heal them, I realized, oh, that's why I'm struggling, you know, because on a conscious level, I thought, ah, yes, I'm ready to make more money and I want more money and I visualized it, but then deep enough there was something weird around my energy with money. And so when I learned about your your healing the money wounds and how they could come from culture, I thought that's what's wrong with me. That's what I need to fix and and I started working on that. And the the shift was was huge. It was it was immediate. Wow. I'm so happy to hear that. But I mean, you are uh you come from such a beautiful culture. Uh what I respect and admire about Latin people is people don't worry too much. you know much me is like like say uh Rio the carnival in Brazil they save save but they spend all their money for carnival in Rio you know that's a beautiful attitude you know Japanese people save save and die before they spend all the money so I Latino people have a very nice fun uh money archetype but maybe spending too much compared to Japanese people but um so for you for you I have a question here what does true wealth mean to you and how has your relationship with it changed over time because you have experienced in many different cultures and now you live in Europe. Uh I'm just curious how uh true wealth u meant to you. Well, that's a great question because um I think it changed a lot. So, a few years ago or many years ago, I thought wealth was money. It was just creating money. And so I did everything I could to make more money, you know, and I I filled my schedule with working and one-on-one clients and my my schedule looked so full and workshops and traveling and but then, you know, when I looked at my bank account, I was like, "Some something's not working out here." But I didn't know how to do anything. You know, it was the only way I knew how to do things until one night. And I want to tell you a very intimate story, but one night where everything absolutely everything shifted for me. It was it was many years ago, but I remember it so vividly. I woke up in the middle of the night because my daughter was crying. My daughter Olivia was a baby back then. And so I went to her room and she was having a fever. And so I picked her up and I started, you know, rocking her and and calming her and saying everything's going to be okay. And as she started calming down and breathing slowly, my mind started racing thinking about the day I had ahead of me the following day. And I started thinking, okay, I have two back back-toback meetings with clients on Zoom. And then I have to get ready for three more meetings the other day. And then I have to go downtown, which meant driving for two hours to meet with someone who might do business with me. And I had the plumber coming at 5:00 p.m. cuz we had a leak in the basement. And I started raising with anxiety. And so I grabbed my phone and I start writing messages first to my husband. Hey, can you cover for me tomorrow? Then to the nanny. Hey, can you come early? And when I was about to send those messages, my daughter wiggled and she looked at me and she like she did this thing with her hand and she she raised it and it landed on my heart. And I look at her and her her eyes were watery because of the fever. And suddenly my eyes got watery because I thought I don't want the nanny to take care of her. I don't want my husband to cover for me. I don't want to hop on Zoom or go downtown or organize my schedule around my clients. I want to be here for my daughter. But I also had a business to run. And so in the middle of the emotional storm, uh, my phone buzzed and I had a a message and I look at it and it was from the coaching clients I had the following morning. And those clients who I was so scared and ashamed to say, "Hey, I need to reschedule cuz my daughter is sick." And they were cancelling on me. They were saying, "Oh, uh, Florencia, sorry, our practice got moved because these were elite athletes. Can we do it in the afternoon?" M and I remember my head spinning and I started thinking I can't keep doing this like this. I can't keep trading my time for money and sacrificing everything for this. I need a change. I need a change. And that that day, Ken, I think my relationship and my definition of wealth completely changed. And I realized this is not wealth. Chasing money like this is not wealth. And from that day till today, it completely changed. You know, today to me, wealth means being present for my kids and uh running a business that works for me and not the other way around. And wealth means taking a day off if my daughter is sick or a week off or a month off and still, you know, being abundant and happy and present and radiant. And so, um, yeah, I think it shifted quite a bit. Wow. So, you know, I understand you're teaching uh you're coaching more businessoriented people now. And uh how has your uh clients shifted from probably uh from certain kind to the other over the years? Yeah, I was for many many years I was teaching mindset you know and I was really happy about that. I I liked it. I felt comfortable. That's what I had written books about. But then something pretty unexpected started happening. I realized, you know, I would walk off stage after giving a mindset talk and people would come to me and they were not asking, "Hey, Florencia, um, how do I change my thoughts or how do I feel better? How can I be more confident?" They were asking me, "How are you running your business? How are you doing it? How do you, you know, how do you run a multiple sevenfigure business while being there for your kids? How do you do it?" And I was like, well, you know, and informally, I started teaching it very quietly because I was like, I'm not entitled to teach this. I didn't go to business school. Who am I to do this? Um, so I did it for very small groups and uh the small groups started telling about it to other people and it just shifted completely. It started truly Ken out of service to those few who were asking and it uh but deep down I was like I shouldn't be teaching this cuz I teach transformation. What I didn't realize is that by teaching that I would experience and I would witness the most amazing transformation in their lives because I you know these people started building businesses around their passions. So the the biggest shift for me came when I stopped being so stubborn about this is what I want to teach to this is what people are asking me to teach. This is what they're needing. And so it I think it came out of service but it the biggest service was for me in the end because now I have discovered a true a true passion. You know teaching others how to build a dream business is is my new passion. Very interesting. And uh this is a follow-up question. Uh do you agree with the saying follow your passion and money will follow? Um can I be honest? Yes. I mean uh I'll just follow up on your question of follow your passion. Yes. Yeah. So um the answer the honest answer is no. I don't believe that is true. Um because for a long time I did that. I followed my passion. I had quit my 9-to-five job, my corporate stable, safe place, because I I fell in love with coaching and I thought this is my new passion and so I'm going to follow it and I did and I got good at it. But then, you know, the money was not really following me. I was chasing it constantly and uh I remember one night I was venting about this to a friend and I was telling her you know I have done everything and it's not working and I just feel maybe I need to accept the fact that I am not meant for business. I'm good at coaching but I'm not good at building a business and all these people that have all these wonderful businesses they have something that I don't have. They are more intelligent than me. They're better with numbers. I'm not that. I need to accept it. and she looks at me and she says,"Yes, they definitely do have something that you don't have." And I remember thinking, "Okay, thank you for confirming that deep dark thought that I had." And she goes, "No, Florencia, but it's not that they are more intelligent or better with numbers or better at business. They have something that you don't have. And that thing is mentorship. They have mentors." And I didn't like the advice, Ken. I was like, "Okay, are you telling me I'm dumb enough that I need to have someone teach me this?" And she's like, "Listen to yourself. You don't know how to make money out of your passion. Uh, and you are simply waiting till you have more money until you invest in a mentor. You have it backwards." And that's when I took the leap and I invested in mentors. And you were one of those amazing mentors. And it completely changed my life. And so for anyone who is right now thinking I'm following my passion but you know money is not really following me. Get a mentor, get someone who can teach you how to do this. Beautiful. So uh like I was just chatting with Florencia before this uh interview and we have a a mutual uh mentor Jack Canfield. You know he taught me a lot and I'm sure you learned so much from him. Can you share um your learning from um uh Jack Campfield, the chicken soup of the soul? Yeah. Yes. He's he was my my first mentor. I I I started learning from him because my mother introduced me to him when I was like 14 or 15. Wow. And uh and one of the he he taught me so many things but if there's one thing that has changed my life is the one thing you know he taught this mantra um maybe you've heard him explain the mantra and he says you know whenever you're about to do something big you just close your eyes and you go oh oh what the heck go for it anyway. And so, you know, he really taught me the power of stop waiting till you feel ready to do something and go for it anyway cuz you will never feel completely ready. Go for it anyway. Go and start. Even if it's messy, if it's difficult, if you don't feel you have what it takes, do it anyway. And then confidence will come as a result of that, not as a prerequisite to take action. Yes. And somehow I got this impression it's because it you Florencia you're more courageous and also to me Latin people are very outgoing and they take the risk but probably uh you are the most unique one too right so uh do you think there's some difference between like European conservative culture and Latin Latin culture like okay go go ahead anyway yeah I think we Latins u maybe it comes from the fact that we never have stable conditions. Everything is rocky and changing in the economy and politics and and and so you build this thick skin of doing it anyway and going for it and taking the leap. So it might come from there. Yeah. Yeah. I really admire you. I mean you are so u dynamic. I I've listened to you speak a few times and then everybody was going like it's almost like their soul is taken away, you know. So supervising speaker, you know, I uh we we just finished uh Kyoto event, our first one uh with an international guest. I really want you to come next year. You know, you really add some beautiful um great addition to our uh event and uh Latin people are so much they're so much fun uh for Japanese people because we don't know how to enjoy life. But uh we have a few uh South American guests and they were just enjoying. I had her uh uh do the toast for the entire know party with 300 people because I chose I chose her because she's so fun. She's so vibrant. She's like champagne energy with a pink hat and she said enjoy life and everybody felt so inspired and you have the same energy. So, thank you so much and I would love love love to come to to Kyodo. So, thank you. Now, what's so special about you being so um to me it's like a champagne kind of bubbly fun uh party energy that you carry uh which is very inspiring for people. Thank you. I think uh I've I've come to to learn that too, you know, and and how you need to infuse that energy in everything you do. So not just fun for partying and hanging out. Um fun at the when you work you know build something that al also makes you feel alive and joyful otherwise work becomes this you know this burden this boring thing that you have to do. No why no you can build something fun too you know so that reminds me of your upbringing. I met your mother uh when I first met you and she is so incredible. So, I wish I had a mother like that. If she was my mother, I would be probably more outgoing, more uh courageous, more hopeful. Um, can you say any something about your mom? Well, my mom has been my my biggest um teacher and mentor. Apart from being a fabulous mom, she has taught me everything I know about confidence, about stepping up, about, you know, um about not waiting for permission to do things. And the thing about Latin cultures, um, even though I live in Europe now, I still carry the Latin gene in me, is that sometimes it can be a little bit difficult for women to step into places that are usually only for men, you know. So business, oh yeah, business or, you know, making a lot of money that belongs to men. Um, or when I was coaching elite athletes, it was this is for men. Well, my mom told me, "No, you can you can do whatever you want and it it doesn't matter if you're a woman." So, I have another question here. What mindset shifts are essential for someone who wants to live with more ease, prosperity, and joy? Wow, there's many that come to my mind. Um, but if I had to pick one, I think I think the biggest mindset shift that I see, the one that transforms people a lot is when they stop thinking I'm bad at this. So, for example, many of my students say something like, uh, I'm good at what I do, but I'm bad at business. I'm bad at making money out of it. Mhm. And what I tell them is, are you really bad at it or is it that you don't know how to do it? Cuz that's a huge difference, right? Yeah. Maybe you just have no experience in this. Maybe you just have not learned how to do it. Now, when you keep thinking, I'm bad at this. That just constricts you. You know, it closes you off. It brings no possibility. It it makes you think, okay, how do I spend less money? How do I shrink my life? Whereas if you start thinking okay I don't know about this what if I learn what if I I I start learning about it. What if instead of thinking how do I spend less I start thinking how do I create more? What if instead of shrinking my life to my current let's say income I start thinking how can I create something that expands me? But it starts by stop thinking I'm bad at this. You just don't know. You just have no experience. And so put on your learning hat and go out into the world and think, okay, how do I learn this? Uh I think that's a a really really big mindset shift. Right. Right. Yes. That's so so um um beneficial for people who are just watching this. You know, I wrote a national bestseller in Japan. Uh do what you love. You know, follow your passion, but make sure money follows you. And in that, you know, I just uh uh wrote a few um points about how to turn your gifts into money. And I think what you uh helping your clients and I I heard you're do something new to help your clients u monetize what they love to do. Can you can you elaborate on this? Yeah, sure. Um, so what I what I realized is that as you say, you know, a lot of people have passions or they have professions and they have gifts, but then they think, how do I make real money out of this? And how do I make it in a way that feels organic? How do I make it from my home? How do I make it while I take care of my kids? How do I make it in a way that really fits my my schedule? So when I when I talk about building a dream business, I I usually tell people, you know, stop thinking about the business in itself. What products do I need to sell? What services? What kind of team do I need? And reverse it into what kind of lifestyle do I want? How many hours do I want to work? Do I want to work from home? Do I want to work mostly in my pajamas, which is what I do. And so I teach them how to turn what they know, whether that is coaching or whatever it is, into an online business in a very simple way. And it's so simple that people with no previous expertise, you know, you don't need like a huge following. You don't need to become an influencer. You don't need anything other than what you already know to turn that into a very very simple online business that can work for you. That to me is a definition of a dream business. Wow. I want to learn it. my myself you know it's not because I'm I'm just helping so many people and now I'm uh focusing more on YouTube but I think online education is so uh simple and people are used to watching uh videos so I think online um seminar is next it's kind of hard to fly to somewhere to just attend a live seminars but if it's online you can just watch them from the bathroom right absolutely and online education people think Well, maybe it's dying. No, it's booming. It's a $300 billion business and it's there's room for everyone. And when people say, "Well, but do you have to be like a guru and a best-selling author to do this?" No. Absolutely no. Some of my students, you know, they teach so simple skills. Sometimes people think, "Ah, I I I don't know what my mission in life is." Well, your mission could be as simple as teaching those things that are easy for you. One of my students, she's teaching others how to run their first 5K. She was not an Olympic athlete. In fact, she was overweight and she was, you know, leading a very toxic life and then one day she stood up from the couch, started running and now she teaches that in an online course. Another one is teaching how to make a baby sleep through the night and they're building six and seven figure businesses out of that. So, it doesn't have to be this grandiose thing, you know, on a billboard. It's simple. It's really simple. Florencia, can you share some of uh the other um of students who just uh did the online courses? I'm very curious about what they do. Yeah. So, they they turn very very simple skills, very simple skills as I was saying. For example, one of my students um she she has ADHD, right? And uh when she came into my program, she was like, I don't know what my mission in life is. And I said, okay, pay attention to these questions. And this is for your audience too. So for anyone thinking, I don't know what I could do. Well, start asking yourself, what do people ask you advice on? Simple things. What comes easily for you or what struggle have you overcome? So for example, this student, she had ADHD her whole life. She struggled with it, but she managed to organize her life even while having this. And so now she teaches mothers with ADHD how to organize daily schedules for their children. Simple. It's very simple. And so it doesn't have to be a huge thing. There's a there's a girl making a ton of money by teaching others how to build Excel spreadsheets. So sometimes it's a boring skill. You might think, oh, but who would be interested in this? There are a ton of people interested in small skills. So today people are not so much going for university degrees and huge things. They want to learn something specific. They want to learn it fast. And if you can teach them that, you can build a business around that. It's interesting. Um, but you can learn those from watching free YouTube videos, right? So what are so unique about them? Not just uh um not YouTube videos. YouTube videos will usually give you information and information today is everywhere. You know you can Google anything and get information. So when you build a product that you want to be scalable and profitable and bring happy wealth, what you need to think about is how do I actually ensure that my people get a transformation not just information transformation. And so I help them build it in a way because you know if you want to lose weight yeah you can Google how to lose weight and you will get a ton of information but reading about it or watching YouTube videos will probably not bring the transformation right. That's so right. Yes. Yeah. You need someone to actually help you implement it and to walk you through the steps and to hold your hand and to maybe make you part of a community that helps you make the change. And so it's all about transformation and not so much about information anymore because today information is everywhere but transformation not so much. Wow, that's so beautiful. So uh I'm very curious about what you do. So uh how much would the people uh those people charge? Would it be like uh 50 or 100 euros or would it be like a subscription base? it goes it's a I help them uh build a a course an online course but not only build it but launch it the right way even if they have no audience and they charge anywhere from if it's a micro course if it's a small course they can charge anywhere from $97 to 140 let's say but then others built macro courses where where they're charging $1,000 or more and they're making very good sales without having a ton of people or a ton of audience, you know. Um, so it it really depends on the product they're building. Wow. So you're you're helping those people whose dreams must be coming true, you know, by teaching what they really love. Exactly. And it's teaching what they love, teaching what they know, and building it in a way that feels so easy and organic because they're doing it from home and they don't need a team to do it, and they don't need like the fancy technology. Because at the beginning people think well this is only for like the big names you know the famous people or or I don't know people like big corporations like Mine Valley and you have to have this fancy team. No you don't. No I built my first course with a baby and a toddler in my pajamas not knowing what I was doing and the only technology I had was my phone and the light that came through the window and that was it. And and it changed my life. can and and yes, today I have a a a bigger business and I have a bigger team and this studio at home that looks nicer, but I didn't start this way and none of my students start that way. Wow, you're so amazing and also you're the living proof of what you teach. Well, uh thank you for that. Um thank you. I I I take it I take it to heart because I think that is when I look for mentors um I look for people who have walked their talk you know who are teaching something they truly know and have lived. So thank you for that. Right. And I and I'm sure you have felt like so desperate and then oh no it doesn't work and you know you've been feeling frustrated over the you know failures and then you uh went over it and then finally you reached your goal. So I think you are the right teacher who can share the right knowledge and wisdom because you've been there. It's like you climb up to uh the mountain and then people uh can um uh find find you as a as a great guide. Thank you so much. Yes, I I I definitely went through the pain. I definitely thought, you know, um and I al always had this feeling that I was doing something wrong, you know, because I was doing everything I had been taught and it still didn't feel like I was getting anywhere. And I was looking at my kids and I was thinking, what what am I missing? What am I missing? What am I missing? And uh I want to acknowledge you again, Ken, for for shifting my beliefs on what was possible and for making me also elevate my game regarding money and stop thinking, you know, I'm not good for business. I just needed to learn and so thank you also for teaching me. Yes, you're such a great example that anybody can learn and just do something what they love. So here's another question. You know, what would you say to someone who's right now thinking, "Oh, wow. That's great. But you know, Florencia, I don't know what I'm what I'm meant to do. I don't know what my purpose is. What am I supposed to do? Is there any way to find the right content to teach? The right content is probably sitting right in front of your eyes, but you're disregarding it. you're not paying attention to it because you think it's too small and you think you have to have this grandiose calling and you think you have to be a an illuminated guru and and you know you have to be the next Oprah Winfrey or Tony Robbins or this big names you see out there and it's not true. It's not true. your passion, your calling, your your service, what you're meant to do is the things that already come naturally to you if you stop seeing them as the small stuff, the thing that nobody cares about. No, it could be life-changing for people. So, sit there for a moment and ask yourself really, what are the things that come naturally to you? What are the things that you could teach without previous preparation? Let's say today they call you and tell you, hey, you have to give a TED talk 20 minutes. What would you talk about? What would you talk about that comes easy and naturally to you? And nothing is too small. Nothing is too small. So stop waiting for the big inspiration to, you know, come from somewhere and start working with what you have. And I think that's one of the keys of entrepreneurship. Start with where you are right now and with what you have. And then the things will become more clear as you start doing things. But if you just sit there and overthink your way through it and start you know the thing about overthinking and and I think this is very paradoxical is that we try to get away from overthinking by thinking more about it. Stop start today. Beautiful. You know, there there's a Japanese saying, you know, you are as conservative as um knocking the stone bridge to make sure it will not fall. And there is also a saying, you know, uh you're breaking your uh stone bridge by hammering it too down uh too too hard. That means that you you're worried your bridge will fall. So you just hammer it down so much so it'll fall and say, "Oh, I'm glad I didn't go over the bridge." So that's what right? I love that. Yes. Yeah. So, but still, you know, a lot of people say, uh, I think I'll start something when I'm ready. So, what would you say to those people? I'll wait for the right timing. I would say then the day will never come. Then, you know, it will never happen. Truly, you know, I I've been blessed enough to be around a lot of successful people and there's one thing they all have in common and they started even when they were not ready for it. Even when they thought, you know, I don't have what it takes and they went for it anyway. You know the famous saying that courage is not the absence of fear, but courageous people are the ones who go for it even if they don't feel ready. So stop waiting to feel ready cuz you will not. You will not. But if you start moving, if you start taking action, one day you will look back and you say, "Oh, I I feel a little bit more ready now." And the thing is that every time you go for a next big dream, for a next leap, you won't feel ready. You won't. When I transitioned from doing everything I did in Spanish to English, it was daunting. I was like, "I'm not ready for this. I I I will compete with all these people in in the English- speakaking world, and I'm not ready." Do it anyway. Do it anyway. really stop waiting for anxiety to be over, for feeling confident. It doesn't happen that way. It doesn't happen. Yeah, you're my mentor, Florencia. You know, because doing this in English is uh very scary for me. So, you're just um a few steps ahead of me and I'm following your steps. You're uh such an amazing individual who just cut through the waste for us and thank you. Yeah. I'm just curious uh what are the differences between Spanish speaking audience and English speaking audience or like a European audience versus America uh North American audience. So um honestly I think the the biggest thing is not so much in the audience. Um I mean yes Latins are louder. They will they they will be louder in everything. So if they like you, they will be louder. And if they don't like you, they will also be louder. You know, they will let you know. And so sometimes Europeans are a little bit more cool, calm, and collected. And so they won't be so expressive maybe sometimes. Um so yeah, that that would be the difference with them. But what I realized is that really the difference is how you come across. And when you stop thinking my language is not perfect, my pronunciation, I will mess up the the verbs or how I say words and it doesn't matter. So for people who are thinking I want to maybe I want to go and do something in a different language, do it. Even if you don't sound perfect, people are not looking at what how you pronounce every word or how perfect your speech. They don't care about that. They care about your energy. They care about your alignment. They care if you have really something valuable to teach, if you have proof. They care about your vibe, about your energy, you know. Um, if they like you and they like your energy and they like your teachings, they won't care about how you pronounce the words. That is so true. You're so encouraging. You know, I've been teaching about happy money, but wherever I went, I realized that uh people who just really agree with me will show up. So, the people who don't like me or who don't agree with me, they never show up. So I never I have never met those in my real seminar. So anyways, yeah. Why did I so worry about not you know just about everything. So you're you're so right about this whole thing. That's so great what you just said. Why did I worry so much? You know why did I wait? My question was why did I wait so long for this? Why did I worry so much that I didn't have what it takes? And for people who are thinking you know um I want to change but they are sitting with their thoughts and here's what I think about change you know um I think change can come from either pain or desire. So if someone's watching this and they are thinking I need a change cuz I'm I'm in a painful situation. I don't like how my life looks like. I don't like how my finances look like. Great. That's a great driver to change. And sometimes change can come from desire. I want a beautiful life. I want a beautiful business. Fantastic. Grab that. It doesn't matter whether your desire to change comes from pain cuz you're fed up with the life you have. Or it comes from the desire to build something beautiful. My advice is that little voice inside your head that is saying, "I need to change." Pay attention to it. Pay attention because it will keep popping up until one day you finally pay attention and your only regret will be why did it took did it take so long? Why did I overthink this so much? So yeah, pay attention to it and and just change just go for it. I so agree with what you said. Thank you. Um it's so so it's so deep ring and in my heart too. Okay. So I have a couple of questions before we finish. So uh this question is my personal question and it's I'm just uh curious about your uh uh take on this. So I talk about I teach about happy money and happy money flows best when you're in gratitude. What's your um you know daily practice to stay in that vibration especially when business feels hard or sometimes it's not going the right way or uh fast enough. I love this question. I I love this question because I I truly believe that as you say, gratitude is the the best frequency to create. And um the thing is that it can get hard to be in the gratitude flow when things are not going so well. And so one thing that I love to do and I do with my family, we have this ritual every night when we get together for dinner. And the ritual is we all have to say what we are grateful for from that day. And sometimes my kids will go, well, no, I'm I'm I'm not grateful today. I had a bad day. I had a fight with a friend or I did bad in my math exam or and I go, okay, what did we learn from that? How can we turn that messy or bad day into a lesson? And how can we be grateful about it? And so, um, the other thing I like to do is not only be grateful for what I have today, whether it was a good or a bad day, but I love to connect with being grateful for what is coming. So, when I do a a visualization or manifestation, which I do and I practice, I love also saying thank you, thank you, thank you for the things that are coming my way. And so, uh, that's what I would I would invite everyone to do. Be grateful for what you have. whatever you have today and also start truly saying thank you and being grateful for what is coming. So you're already welcoming it, you know, because uh the gratitude energy is the most welcoming one there is. And so when you welcome things that you want to manifest in your life, it's a lot better than trying to manifest out of a needy energy, you know, like I I need more money, I need more success, I need a better relationship. Be grateful for what is already coming your way and it will come faster. Yes. Yes. Exactly right. Okay. So, Florencia, how can people learn more about building their dream uh business online with you? Can you tell us where to go? We'll just give everybody the right information, but I want to I want you to say it in your in your own way. Okay. So, um I think the best way is I would invite them to a free class that I give um where I teach them exactly how to turn their profession or their passion or their small skill into a very successful online business in four easy steps. And so this is a very uh people love this class because they get so much out of it and they really they walk in thinking me an online business. No, I don't want to be an influencer. You don't have to be. You don't have to have anything special. And so, I invite you to come and see how you can transform what you already know how to do into a business that feels easy and that you can run from your home without a team, without any fancy technology, without any followers on social media. And I would be delighted to be able to to teach them that as a gift. Thank you so much. You know, I love to translate your courses into Japanese, too. You know, uh, tens of thousands of Japanese people will be watching this. So, um, not only English, but in many languages, you're going to teach people online. So, Oh, fantastic. I I would I would love that. And and thank you so much, Ken, for for enabling this. Uh, of course, I will I will give you the link for everyone to come and and sign up for that free class. And uh, generous. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for for enabling this too. Yeah, thank you. And uh so final words to the viewers. I mean people have immensely enjoyed your energy, your your uh interview and I thank you. You're a generous uh uh being. So um people want to follow you, learn from you. So any uh encouraging words to uh the viewers? So my my final words are that if you're sitting there and listening to this and thinking, I wish I wish I could have that dream business that Florence is talking about. I wish I could have all that financial abundance and prosperity and be able to flow with this. You don't need to wish. You don't need to think that it's for someone else. You don't need to think that this is only for special illuminated people. It's for you, too. We are all meant to dream and to go for that dream life and it doesn't require anything complicated other than you making the decision to go for it. You do need to make that decision and you do need to make that decision and you know what stop being interested about it and be committed because being interested well today you're interested in this and tomorrow something else. Being committed is saying, "I will do whatever it takes to make my dream life come true. And it's never too late. You're never too old. You're never too young. Your English is not broken. And you don't need any other special skills than simply saying, "I will go for it anyway." Wow. Thank you so much. I really I I could really feel your passion and love. So, thank you so much. and much gracias and arato thank you again. Thank you again for being such an amazing amazing person, friend, mentor and for changing the lives of so many people around the globe and changing my life too. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. We'll just do this again. Yes. Wow. Thank you so much, Florencia. I look forward to seeing you in Amsterdam. And wow, how do you guys feel about Florencia's session? She is so passionate, isn't she? Her energy literally hops out of the screen. I am curious. Can you share in the chat what came up for you? How do you feel about Florencia's sharings? And she's so vulnerable as well. I think it really makes our hearts sing when we hear someone like that going through all this uh sort of like growth into what she's doing today. And by the way, just want to share an observation. Did you notice that Florencia unlocked her new level of business after receiving Ken's mentorship? And now she is joining us for this summit. That is once again the power of connection and how it connects to wealth. And so I want to invite you all today to also start noticing how can you really come from a place of service because you know another thing that she shared is that she pivoted her business not by doing what she only wanted herself but she observed what people needed and John was talking about that earlier as well right the idea that you need to start thinking about what people need and then how can you actually create positive ripples in their lives and not on yourself only. And so she pivoted her business to serve the people who were asking her questions which got to where she is today. So this power of really shifting the focus on other people not only take away the pressure on yourself but also gives you that excitement that um that love that you have because you start noticing that you're actually doing this to change people's lives and you each and every one of you here has a gift an eeky guy but beyond that your own unique talents you have a unique story that only you have lived and those stories may seem normal to you but to another person maybe that source of inspiration that they have been looking for. So I want to invite you all um to really step into that awareness and start seeing how you can actually serve more and start building that. And for those of you who are curious about building your own online course, yes, Florencia has kindly partnered with us uh to offer this free master class. So, she's going to walk you through how to package your knowledge and turn it into uh sustainable uh substantial monthly income in revenue. It's a very generous offer. So, let me pull up a QR code for you who may want to see that. So, you can see it right here is a QR code. You can scan it with your mobile device and it's a very generous offer. So, she really cares about helping new course creators succeed. I've seen it done before. I've seen her in her element. So, if this path feels aligned for you, click the link and check it out. Joe said that she is a beautiful and authentic light, I 100% agree. And so, if you guys feel like you have a calling, even if it's an inkling, I would like to invite you all to honor that. Honor that seed of inspiration, really step into action. No code seen here. Okay. So, the code right now is on screen as I can see. Um, can you guys see the QR code right now on stage? Okay, just black. Hm. Interesting. Let me remove it and put it back on stage again. Do you guys see it on stage right now? Okay. Uh team, if you can please share the link in the chat so that they can actually Oh, okay. I think the team has resolved that right now. So, do you guys see it on the screen now? And uh I see that the team has shared the link in the chat. So you guys can click that link to uh get to this free master class. They'll also be sharing it in the Facebook group as well. So you guys, if you haven't joined the Facebook group, you can join it there. All right. Okay. Now, our next speaker, uh she's going to bring a very different flavor to today. And to be honest with you guys, it was not easy making it happen. Just so many things were happening concurrently. Life were throwing life was throwing like lemons uh like baseballs, you know, like just keep hitting us in terms of our schedule, in terms of what was happening. But we chose to show up regardless of circumstances. And once again, it goes to show that when you choose to show up, magic happens. And so our next guest is actually a former Wall Street analyst who turned into a personal finance teacher and YouTuber, very young person who has reached almost 1 million subscribers on YouTube and now she generates multi-millions of unpaid organic viewers around the world all the time. It's a very beautiful story. And what's even more beautiful is that her community loves her for her honesty, for her clarity, and for the way she speaks directly to that part of you that's like, I'm ready for more. Her name is none other than Rose Han, and you may have seen her YouTube videos before teaching many different ways of uh improving your personal finance. And I really wanted to share her session with you today because she's also going through a personal transformation into her next level. She has understood her eeky guy for a while now, but she's bringing it to a next level of expression. And that's something I want to inspire to you as well. As you discover your eeky guy, know that your expression evolves with you. So don't feel like you are um trapped by it. It's actually a living being co-creating with you. So if you're someone who's been feeling the pull to step into your true purpose, but don't know where to begin, I think the next session might be the permission slip that you've been waiting for. So, uh, please welcome Rose Han onto the stage and have a wonderful time. Welcome everyone to this segment of the Happy Wealth Summit. I am so excited for our next speaker because she is unique from all our speakers so far in this event. She is an internationally renowned money expert, educator, traveler, and book nerd who is on a mission to show others how to truly create financial freedom. And she has a wildly successful YouTube channel, nearly 1 million subscribers, where she shares her entire financial journey, no cap, on how to go from 100k in debt to becoming a self-made millionaire. She has been featured in Wall Street Journal, Business Insider, CNBC, and has helped over millions of people pay off their debt, start investing, and building actual wealth. So, it is my absolute pleasure to invite Rose Han to the stage today. Welcome, Rose, and thank you for making the time for us. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you. Well, thank you. And I'm very curious, right, since you went from such massive debt to achieving financial freedom. Can you share a little bit about your personal journey with us? Like what were some of the emotional turning points for you? So I remember one clear moment. I was around 22 years old, just graduated college doing my went on vacation. It was like my first official vacation as an adult. get like two weeks. So, I booked a vacation to Cancun and it was all I could afford. And actually, I couldn't even afford that vacation because I had to put it on my credit card. I didn't have money. And at the time, I was $100,000 in debt, mostly student loans, credit cards, and it was just sitting I was I remember a clear moment. I was sitting on the beach trying to enjoy myself, but I was just stressed. I couldn't even enjoy the vacation because I already knew that I couldn't really afford it. And so I'm eating this soggy guacamole and just thinking this is so different from the vision of life that I had when I entered college. I had these big visions. I even took a gap year before college. So I had a little bit of a year where I got to adventure and wake up on beautiful beaches around the world. And so at that young age, I had this very idealic vision for what life should be about. Freedom, adventure, experiencing beauty in the world. And I was always really hungry to make that happen. I I worked hard. I was ready to do what I needed to do and but I thought what I had to do is go to school, get a really good education, get a really good job and I did all those things and even after doing all those things I was like this is not this sucks like I don't have the freedom. It's so different. So it was it a lot of people have a rock bottom moment you know they go to jail or they go bankrupt. I didn't have a rock bottom moment like that, but it really started with that that sort of come to Jesus moment on the beach when I realized this is not what I want for my life. I want more. So from there, that's really when I started looking for answers cuz I realized whatever I've been doing so far is not working. I'm living paycheck to paycheck. I have a really highpaying job, but I'm in so much debt and I don't know what to do with any of this money. It's just money in, money out. I'm really bad with it. like I don't I didn't learn what I should do with this money. So that's really where I embarked on my search. I thought if I didn't learn in school or from my parents what I really need to know to create financial freedom, I'm going to go figure it out myself. So in my bio, you mentioned I'm a book nerd. Like that's really where I started. I I went searching for answers because I knew they were out there. I'm I've always been a believer that if you just learn the skills, the right information, the right road map, you can do anything. So from there, I went looking for answers in all the the books, some of the classics like Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad Poor Dad and so many more. And within four years, I was debtree and and three years after that, I became a self-made millionaire. That's beautiful. And there's one point I really want to dive into that was very interesting for me. you mentioned that you weren't hitting rock bottom or you know in a very dire state of let's say going to jail or something and I think that we're living in a culture of comparison right where people sometimes say oh I'm not as successful as that person or I'm not in as much of a bad situation as other person you know we hear all these inspirational stories of people getting like you know get hit by a car or you know get into massive massive trouble and then rise from the ashes like a phoenix I was curious how did you um handle that and rise beyond the trap of comparison knowing that everyone has their own unique journey and you know you can do the best you can. Well of course at the time I I I would certainly compare myself. I don't think any of us are immune to that and even now even now there's always another level you can compare yourself to. So especially with money it's so it's such a sensitive subject for a lot of people. It's very easy to compare yourself financially, but what I really want to encourage people to do is to to know that what you see is never the whole story. Um, first of all, the person who you're admiring who drives this really nice Porsche, for all you know, they could have a $1,000 a month car payment on that they didn't even buy with their own money, and they could be a paycheck away from going broke. They could live in a really nice Beverly Hill mansion with a huge mortgage and they have to work at this job they don't like to afford it. So whatever you see is never the whole picture. You know don't be fooled cuz a lot of in America especially, you know, debt is actually how a lot of people make things happen. So it doesn't make sense to compare yourself and and think, oh, how can that person afford that vacation to Europe and I can barely afford to pay rent? Maybe they pay that with credit cards. That's one thing I will say, you know. Um, and then the other thing is that also usually you'll see about you'll see these things on social media and it doesn't for many reasons it doesn't always make sense to share about your problems. It makes more sense to share about your successes. So I really hope everyone really understands that. I mean even me as someone who is in the public eye and shares a lot about my life and I share a lot about my life relatively but there's a lot that I don't share. you know, there's like personal problems with family and it just doesn't make sense to share. So, I think if I just want everyone to feel okay, like we're all we're all struggling too. So, yeah, something with like money. Uh there was a trend on YouTube going around where there were all these videos of like where your net worth should be by what age. And it's like like sure it's nice to have some of these milestones to know if you're like on track, but that's also really really hard to to follow because like we all have different starting points. Like I started out with very little money education and $100,000 in the negative. Some other people, they have parents who taught them little things about money that they completely take for granted. But literally just your parent telling you that you need to max out your 401k match. That one little difference could mean that you have $50,000 saved by 25 without even really trying. I didn't have that, you know? So, or like your parent gives you your down payment, so now you own a house by the time you're 30. There's so many ways that we have different advantages and disadvantages. So, I never want anyone to compare themselves. We're all running our own race. And the the funny thing is if you keep looking at what other people are doing and how you're not good enough, then that actually will prevent you from from from progressing, you know, cuz one story that I want to share is the the moment that I was really able to get myself into a better financial situation is the moment I stopped judging myself for it. And there was a moment um so after that whole Cancun trip that sort of come to Jesus moment with the soggy guacamole. It wasn't just like magic from there. There were a lot of layers of the onion to unravel before I could really make change. And one of the moments was I was uh on a plane back from Burning Man. I don't know if you ever heard of Burning Man. Of course. Yeah. It's a it's a life-changing experience. And there is something really cool about moments or experiences like that that take you out of your usual surroundings that just like wake up a lot of ideas and kind of suppress memories and thoughts. So I was on the plane riding back home from West Coast to East Coast and I was journaling about my experience and just all these things were pouring out of me onto the paper and all of a sudden I had this flashback to a memory with my dad. It was a flashback to just four years before I was like sophomore in college and we were sitting at the kitchen table. I was home for the summer and we were discussing how I would pay for college the next semester because I was at NYU super expensive college y is probably cost double what it cost for me back then. And I don't even know how people afford tuition these days. But for me, I was doing it with student loans and and I was stressing because as a sophomore, I was signing these big promisory notes for like $20,000 every semester. And as a 19-year-old, I was like, "Oh my god, like this feels kind of scary." So, I was crying to my dad because I was like, "I'm really stressed. I don't know if this is the right move. Like, is this really okay?" And I remember my dad saying, "Don't worry, you know, you're going to you're going to pay that off when you get a good job and I will cosign your loans for you." Wow. Yeah. And it seems like such a simple moment, but like in that moment I realized, oh, like if I have a lot of debt, it's because that's what my parents knew. That's the only solution they had for me, too. They'll cosign my loans. In another reality, other parents would say, "We'll get scholarships or you can do this or that." But for me, for us, that was the solution. And it was really in that moment I actually was able to forgive myself because up to that moment I was carrying so much shame. I thought something was wrong with me. And like I never talked about my debt. It's funny because on YouTube I share all about it like I have debt, you know, I used to and like I made videos about it. But really at the beginning I didn't even tell my friends. It was like this this like albatross that I carried because I thought it made me different from other people and I didn't want to share about it. And I made sure I like dressed well and had like, you know, ate at the best restaurants with my friends, but I never talked about my debt. But in that moment, I realized, you know what? There's actually nothing wrong with me. I just did what I was taught, what I was shown. You can only do as good as you were ever shown, you know? So it really starts with that like for like forgiveness, forgiving yourself, understanding that you you are where you are because you were always doing the best with what you knew at the time. And if it's not a good situation, you can change it, but it's not because anything's wrong with you. Like I really think that moment of distance and self-compassion and separating yourself from from like your financial situation no matter how bad it is is really important because otherwise you just keep continuing like self-sabotaging loops of judging yourself and then you overspend and you're like, "God, you suck. Why'd you do that?" And then you rack up more debt because you're depressed about yourself. It's kind of like how like people have trouble losing weight because they stress eat, you know, and then they hate themselves falling off their diet and then they just eat even more and it's like that self repeating loop. So yeah, first getting out of that is the key before you can actually do all the strategies because we all know the strategies, you know, spend less, earn, invest. That's the easy part. True. True. And I'm very curious then how did your inner identity shift in order to get to where you are today? Right? Going from that much debt and without the the influence around you to guide you in that path, right? How how did you become who you are today? So that was the the big thing inner identity of someone who kept fighting against myself to someone who actually accepted myself where I'm at. That leaves more space for you to actually see what your strengths are and take action from there. So that was one piece of it. But I think another piece of it is if you don't come from money, it's it's very common to have these kind of sneaky subconscious judgments against wealth, these negative associations with wealth. Like a surface level, we know, oh yeah, it's good to have more money because then you can afford more things. But a layer deeper than that, we a lot of us carry these negative associations. Like one big one is what will happen if I become successful? What will happen to the people around me like the my relationships will that will I lose friends or will my inner circle my family think that I'm trying to be better than them and I'll that I'm betraying that's a big one. Um and just overall just judgments of wealth because if you grow up without it it's usually a self-protective mechanism to to judge it like judge what you can't have. Y so that's actually a really important one which is just to to let go of any negative associations about wealth and I'll share like that that was that was a conscious choice that I had to make. I had to start looking for evidence of the opposite like if I think money is bad or it's it's going to ruin my relationship. I just knew at a at a deep level that if I want to be rich, if I want to have financial freedom, I can't judge it. you're never you're never going to attract judge, right? So, I actually started consciously choosing to focus on examples where wealth was actually doing amazing things in the world and actually facilitating more love and connection and better relationships rather than the opposite because in any moment you can always choose to focus on either type of evidence. You know, there's many examples of bad people with lots of money doing bad things. There's also a lot of examples of people doing amazing things when they have money. So, I really had to make that conscious choice to choose to to think about that. And and then with regards to what it does to relationships, like one big motivator for me was that I wanted to to take care of my parents. I wanted to be there for them. So, if anyone ever has any judgments or worries about what it's going to do to your relationships, like I encourage you to think about what you'll be what you'll be able to do for other people when you have more wealth. Like, it doesn't it doesn't have to result in you betraying them. You're actually doing them a favor because by you getting to a better place now, you're in a better place to help them. So, yeah, that's definitely something I really want people to be conscious of. I think that's a really cool exercise you just shared with everyone by the way is to like start looking for evidence that wealth and you know money is doing good in the world and I think a lot of us are blasted by media right and media loves to highlight the negative because that increases clicks right so a lot of them probably don't have that exposure unless they take matters into their own hands and they really start to gather evidence for themselves it's a very empowering practice actually um and and I love what you just said about what to do with that wealth as well. I think there may be some listeners out there who definitely want to become wealthy, want to be rich. However, they may not have had the prompt before to think, well, why do I want to be rich, right? Why do I want to be wealthy? And I'm very curious, Rose, uh did you always know your why or is it something that you did along the way that uh create clarity for yourself? That's I I love that you asked that question. Thank you. Because one thing that I tell people is before you embark on this journey to financial freedom before you do anything it will go a long way to get really really clear on why your and I call this your intrinsic why. I actually talk about this in depth in my book because it's so important and there's exercises to help you uncover your intrinsic why because a lot of people are like you mentioned earlier we see things on social media and we comparison. So, a lot of us, it's it's easy to get stuck stuck into reasons that aren't even really yours. Like, oh, I want to be rich because I want to feel important and buy these nice things or I just want it cuz the Kardashians have it or whatever, you know? And and if you chase money for those reasons, then you're you're either not going to make it to the finish line because it's not motivating enough or you're gonna burn yourself out. You're just not going to feel good about it. So, you know, every strong goal always starts with a really strong reason for wanting to get there. So, so yeah, finding your intrinsic why. And yeah, for for me it was I uncovered that after sort of that moment I shared on the plane ride back from Burning Man. I realized it had a lot to do with my family, like my parents wanting to wanting to create a different financial reality than the one in my family tree, you know, like to to trailblaze a new way that only I could do because otherwise I would continue the cycle of lack and limitation. And I didn't want I didn't want to do that because I saw how the whole story of debt, you know, debt is just how we live. I was living that out and I was like, "No, I don't I don't want to keep doing that. I'm gonna it stops here and I'm gonna create something new for my family." And that was really getting in touch with that was so much fuel. You know, that's what gave me the courage to look at how much I owed, which I had I hadn't even looked. I only roughly knew how much I owed, but I so scared to look at my numbers. But when you have a strong why, nothing's going to scare you. Or, you know, things will be scary, but you'll do it anyway because you have a strong enough why, you know, like when I made my first investment, that's really scary, too. But I knew you have to invest to become financially free. You can't ever become free if you're always working for money. And even though I was scared, like, I don't think it feels amazing to put your money in the market and see it going up and down. But I knew that I have to try something new if I want to create something new. And so that was it was really connecting to my why that helped me do over and over the hard things to finally create a new financial reality. That's powerful. That's really powerful. Uh I'm curious for people out there who are listening right now who may be, you know, at the stage before they got on their own versions of the plan. Right. Right. Maybe they're just realizing what their why is, but they suddenly feel overwhelmed or maybe that they're behind. You know, again, the comparison trap, right? They feel like, "Oh, now I found out my why, but I wish I found out sooner. I'm I'm falling behind." Do you have any thing you would like to tell them? Any particular words of wisdom for where they are right now in life? Yeah. Yeah. This is this is a really common one. It's it's very common to look at your finances and think you should be better. But like as I mentioned before, there's there's no there's no uh sort of official measuring stick like the measuring stick is arbitrary because we all have different starting points in life as I mentioned. So what has always helped me is just to continue looking forward like running your own race because also a lot of things in life are a choice. You can choose to focus on the fact that you're behind even if I mean even if assuming there was even this official definition of behind or you could just choose to say I am where I am because I've done my best up until now and that's okay and from now from here on out I'm going to move forward. It's always moment by moment we have a choice for how we look at things and I like to say why make it harder on yourself than we need to. Like life is kind of hard enough. Like can we just make a choice to be okay with where we're at and accept it and even celebrate it and see the good in it and choose a a a way of thinking that motivates us to to to move forward instead of wallowing in self-pity and then stay home watching Netflix eating ice cream, you know, in self-loathing. It's like we can choose. So it's that that'll really help because it's like a marathon. You don't get to you don't become debtree overnight if you have a lot. Like you have to really chip away at it and then you have to do some hard things like asking for a raise and investing and learn to budget. There's a lot of things you have to do and it doesn't happen overnight. Um so like let's choose to feel good along the way and ironically that's actually going to speed it up for you. I love that. And you do talk a lot about investing and budgeting and I love that you brought up about the importance of having joy along the way of this journey, right? And you have been on an incredible journey. So I'm very curious, Rose, did you have a process or a way to do this so that it's number one sustainable, number two values driven, and number three most importantly that it's mainly joyful. Yeah. So I have a very very on andoff relationship with budgeting. I've had a lot of different iterations and relationships with it. And the one very common way to budget is viewing it as your like it's a set of rules that feels very restricting and it makes you feel guilty. And every time I looked at it that way, I just didn't feel motivated to keep up with it. But once I started seeing that, oh, my budget actually allows me peace. Cuz every time I fall off budgeting, I start feeling out of control and then I start overspending and then I feel like my life energy is being wasted because like my money is going to all these places, but I don't even really know if it's going somewhere good, then I always revert back to, okay, okay, let me just go back to my budget. Like it really is good. So over and over, you kind of realize that actually it's my budget is there for me. Like it's it's good. I should I should stick with it. So, yeah, there's there's been many moments where because I prepared in advance and and budgeting doesn't have to be like keeping track of every dollar. It could just be simply giving a general plan for your money and overall sticking with it. But there's been been many moments where I've been able to say yes to some really cool spontaneous things like flying my mom business class to come see me in LA for Easter week last minute, you know, because I actually have a category in my budget for gifts and spoiling my loved ones. Like I actually have a budget category in that because I know I'm gonna want to do it. I don't know when, but there's always going to be something that comes up. So knowing that I have got money just set aside just for that allows me to to do more of those things. So So yeah, like if you can associate doing money things with being able to have more joy instead of it restricting you from joy, like that's the sweet spot cuz now you're now you have that intrinsic motivation to actually do things cuz who wants to it's like it's like going to the gym. like I I am never going to be someone who will go to the gym. And I've tried because I know I need to build muscle and maintain my health. And I realized I'm just going to I'm going to take my own advice like what I tell people to do about budgeting like like make it something fun. Make it find a way to associate positive feelings with it. So I realized, okay, I don't like the gym, but I do like dancing and that keeps me really in shape. So I'm going to lean into that. Um, so yeah, I don't I don't believe in forcing yourself to do things that suck and make you feel shitty and and and really the the the key is to to to to view all the money things that you have to do like budgeting and investing as self-care, something that allows you to have more fun, be more of who you are and live out your values better. I think that reframing is very powerful, right? that for practices that we don't naturally feel drawn to do to reframe it into something that aligns with our values or what's important to us. Right? In this case, when you say self-care and joy, I could feel that this is something that I resonate a lot with, right? And I'm sure a lot of people in the audience as well because who doesn't like self-care and fun, right? So, that's a very smart thing to do. And, you know, you mentioned a few times about uh you know, what's important for you as well from almost like a purpose standpoint. I'm very curious when you were starting out on this journey, right, of going from 100K in debt to becoming a self-made millionaire, you know, um were you able to balance between creating wealth and fulfilling your life purpose or is it something that you had to evolve over time? Oo, I love that you asked that question. Balancing wealth and living your purpose, right? balancing building wealth versus living your purpose. So, having gone through this journey, I actually fully believe that your highest wealth, your your easiest, quickest path to financial freedom is going to be when you find your purpose. Like, there was a moment when I had to quit. Well, not I had to, but I chose to quit my corporate job that paid very well, that had a clear ladder to ascension on Wall Street. You know, I was already making six figures in my early 20s and could definitely see the path to making a lot more just just by following the steps and but I but I just knew that I was meant for more than sitting at these screens and trading currencies. That's what I did. I was an FX trader. It just didn't I felt like there was more that I was meant to do. I didn't know what. And I'm so happy that I followed my intuition and just took the leap. I quit. I freelanced and did a lot of random things for a while until I actually found what I wanted to do, which is what I do today. Making videos, sharing messages, empowering messages to people, the masses, writing, sharing ideas. And I fully believe that maybe I could have gotten moderately financially successful following my corporate path. and not doing exactly what I wanted to do. But but because I decided to really lean into my purpose, even though it was kind of painful because I didn't always wasn't always very clear on my purpose and it it wasn't always easy to figure out how I how to live it. You know, building my business was a very nonlinear journey. But I I really believe because I was I found something that I was born to do that only I could do in my way and that I like truly loved doing. That's why I was able to create financial freedom in such a short amount of time, you know, and and it was doing it in a way where I didn't feel like I was like sacrificing certain years of my life for an end result later cuz that's sort of a a a segment of the the personal finance community where I think it's called I think you could call it the FIRE community, the financial independence hire early. I mean, there's a lot of different vibes and schools of thought within the fire community, too. But one one uh one manifestation of it is where you work a highpaying job, whether you like it or not, and you just kind of suck it up. Extreme extreme savings rate, extreme frugality, and in 10 years, then you can retire early, like earlier than 65, which is great if you can retire early, but that's still also 10 years of your life that you're living in extreme frugality. And yeah, you know, I just I like the idea of early retirement. Absolutely. But there was just something about that that I really didn't resonate with cuz what if what if you get sick and pass away in those five years before you get to enjoy that? So, I really don't think finding like the the way to financial freedom, the best way is to do it in a way that feels good along the way and is aligned with your purpose along the way. Yeah, it's really true, right? We never know I mean this sounds a bit morbid but the reality is that we never know if uh tomorrow will even come. So I often think that when I wake up in the morning I'm absolutely grateful because I got another day right. Um, and to your point, I'm very curious though, you know, you mentioned about going through uh different paths, right, and exploring and then eventually finding out what you're meant to do. And that accelerated your success, which makes sense, right? Because if you're really passionate about something, you would definitely outperform someone or outdo someone who is just trying to make it work, right? the amount of passion, the amount of intention you have in it will be very different at a different level uh compared to your competitors. But how did you get there, Rose? Like when you're trying different things, what were you looking for that made you realize this is it? This is what I'm supposed to do. Okay, there's there's two things I want to say here. One is I think it's really important to like listen to your intuition and in your interests, just even random interests that you have. Uh, I think it was Steve Jobs who tells that story about how he took a random calligraphy class and then later on that informed like some of Apple's most innovative ideas like cool fonts. And so he says the the dots connect looking backwards. And I fully believe that's true because in in that exploratory time when I quit my Wall Street job and I was just trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life, I uh random gigs. I worked for a real estate investor. I learned uh how to put together real estate deals to raise money, analyze investments. Also, I joined the dance team and I took a bunch of dance classes and discovered creativity and the the the act of creating something that has never existed before. Like even performing a dance piece, that's like creating something. It's very vulnerable. Yeah. And and then all the investment skills I learned from the real estate guy and the confidence. So all these like doing all these little things that kind of seem unproductive actually really end up being part of who you are. Like when I was younger, I would read fiction books all the time. Like I read Gone with the Wind, which is it's like a 500page novel at the age of nine. I read it back toback like five times because I loved it. So Wow. Yeah. I I just would face in books everywhere. Like that was my that was my like elementary and middle school days. And now looking back, I realize reading all of those books made me really empathetic so I could connect with people. That's why I'm able to connect with people on video and like make them feel heard and I'm a good communicator because I write a lot. Yeah. So I really think all those little passions, those little tugs at your heart that you have like you want to sing, you want to I don't know. Um what's like a random passion that you have? No. for me. Um I I love I mean I love exploring different areas with friends. So that's something that I love. Mhm. Yeah. Like whatever it is to to to spend some time doing it because that will help give you clarity. Like sitting at home like researching and watching YouTube videos and watching other people do amazing things is not where it's going to be found. You know that's not where clarity is going to be found. And yeah, and then the other the other side of that is also you want to be practical. Not everything you love to do needs to be turned into the thing that helps you create financial freedom. We can have a lot of hobbies and and facets and they can contribute to who we are, but at the end of the day, you need one one vehicle that will make you a lot of income and help you live your purpose in the world. Like that sweet spot of making you really good money, but also fulfills you. So I like I like to take people through an exercise called my three circles exercise. Cool. It's very similar to the Japanese concept of eeky guide. It's very similar but has three circles instead of four. So a little bit simpler but basically you think of all the things that you love to do. So dance, cooking, whatever, exploring places like you. And then in another circle you have things that you are really good at even if you don't necessarily love to do them. Could be technical skills like coding or I don't know um sewing or it could be like soft skills like I'm really good at connecting with people. I'm really good at seeing connections between random unrelated things. So really big deep like hard skills and soft skills. And then the third circle is things that people will pay good money for because not everything can be turned into a lucrative income stream. So that's where you kind of need to be practical. So if you see any business or person making really good money doing that thing that belongs in that category and so whatever intersects all three that is your sweet spot. So there was definitely a moment where I thought I love to dance but and I'm pretty good at it but like and people could make good money in it but really it's what that looks like is having a dance studio and then there's a limited income ceiling because it's a brickandmortar place and that's like I I'm trying to make more than that like more of something more scalable. So that's when I consciously eliminated that interest. But I also knew I really love talking about money and teaching people about money and learning about money and I'm actually really good at it. I'm good at uh the number side of it and also explaining it. And also I'm seeing people like Robert Kiyosaki, he he built a huge company and changed a lot of lives and made a ton of money teaching that to the world. So I thought I'll do something similar. And uh so yeah, just finding the intersection between all those three things is is really going to be your easiest most fun path to financial freedom, right? It sounds really beautiful in terms of how you almost match together the ying and the yang of this process, right? We have people who overthink things a lot like just constantly thinking, okay, if you have the three circles, what could these things be? But never actually do it. And then you have people who go out and do a lot of things but they never actually reflect upon or think about whether you know where do they fit in these circles and whether it's actually the kind of combination that they want right in terms of a lifestyle in terms of their goals. So it sounds to me that you took these two different energies and combined it together and create this evaluating system which I really think is very practical. So you know thanks for sharing that. Cool. Thanks. Yeah, I want to say I think most people what they I think the overthinking thinking about things actually I think a lot of people don't have an issue with that the a lot of people what what where where they get stuck is the action part you know you think about it but then you don't do it. You're never going to know if you want to do the thing until you actually try it. So I I definitely had I definitely thought about things. I was intentional somewhat, but I really had more of a bias toward action because I just knew you need to get some real world feedback. Like, do I really like this thing? I'm never going to know if I like making a YouTube video unless I do it even though I'm scared. So, I just threw up that first ugly janky video and I realized I like it's not good, but I kind of liked I kind of liked it and people kind of liked it, too. So, I should keep going. is those little crumbs that you only get from from actually taking action and getting real world feedback. So yeah, that's where that's that's something I'd love I I really want to encourage people to focus on is the clarity comes from action, you know, not not as much. I love that. I love that. And getting that feedback loop. Um, one question often ask people too is when they say, "Oh, I want to have the life of Rose Han," right? And asking them, "Well, what parts of her life do you want?" And that often gets people to also create more awareness because they realize, wait a second, I actually don't want every single part of her life. It's just these particular parts that appeal to me. And I think that awareness helps people um also focus their actions and their evaluations on that particular part. Um I think that's why some people might be disappointed sometimes when they go on these these paths of becoming their idol only to be disappointed because they realize all their aspects that they didn't resonate with. So self-awareness is actually a big big key on this journey. Um and and I'm curious because you talk about you talk about living a life that you don't need to escape from. And that is deeply rooted in self-awareness, right? In aligned action uh and in the what I call joy of missing out, right? Because you got to you got to let go of the things that don't serve you to allow the things that do to come into your life that you don't have to escape from. Uh, what is it like for you now, Rose? You have done so much and you know, what is a life for you in 2025 that you don't have to escape from? Yeah, I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Um cuz it's interesting after I after I hit certain goals that I always wanted to hit like you know be financially free and be debtree and have a million dollars and have a successful business and YouTube channel. There was a period of time where I was just sort of running on autopilot and just going for the next thing. Like, okay, well, now I guess I'm gonna hit go for a $10 million business and I'm going to go for bigger and bigger achievements. I was just kind of going on autopilot because that's what people do once they get to a certain place. And it's only pretty recently that I realized, wait, like what am I doing? I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not as happy as I could be. And I realized um I mean I love my work but sometimes I get sucked into just achievement mode because that's like that's like a programming that I have. I'm very hardwired to just work hard and achieve goals and yeah and and I wasn't actually going to dance and going on adventures with my boyfriend like things that actually fill me up. So yeah, I realized but I also want to keep doing this for a long time. I'm I love sharing my message online. and I want to make YouTube videos till I'm 70 years old. I just wrote a book. It was incredibly difficult but also really fulfilling and I hope to write many more books. Um, but I also want to do it all in a way that's sustainable. Like I want to live a life I don't want to retire from, you know? I don't want to do this so hard for two years that I burn out and never touch it again. That would be that would suck. So I And it's it's crazy because this year is so intense. Like I'm launching this book. It's coming out September 2nd at a zero and there's a lot of stuff you have to do related to that. But it's also but I'm also trying to be um to temper myself like I don't it would be great to make New York Times bestseller of course the accolades but am I willing to sacrifice certain things that I have planned this year to get that cuz I know what it takes to get there but I also have a summer vacation planned to Paris with my boyfriend. It's like a once in a-lifetime trip. We also have some dreams of getting a boat and sailing the world for a year or two and need to start taking some sailing classes. Like all that sort of stuff takes time. So and and this is my moment. I don't want to put it off till 10 years. Like I want to work on these things now. So I mean I haven't figured out the answer but how do you balance all the ambition but also make things happen in your life and enjoy life along the way? I I really think we can I can I can have both. I'm seeing I'm experimenting like are there ways I can increase my output without necessarily working harder maybe even by working less by thinking differently. I believe with AI we can we can get there. Um like focusing more on things that matter and cutting out all the admin and stuff that doesn't matter. I I I believe there's a way we can have it all. Or maybe not. But what I'm very clear on is like there's there's there's like a key there's key moments in life when you have opportunities to make core memories. Like I'll only be this age and at this stage of life with my boyfriend at this time and have these friends in this community and I don't want to give up chances to make memories in in chasing goals that I don't even know why I have in the first place. So it's just a process. I haven't figured out the balance. I think it's always a constant recalibration of like am I in alignment? Is this good work for me or not? I think it sounds to me at least that you're living your own advice. You're leading by example because what you said before about the importance of taking action, right? And then getting feedback, right? Learning from those actions. It sounds to me that you're doing that right now, even at this stage of your life, right? where you're testing different things. You're evolving along with, you know, the the technological uh evolution, right, and advancement of our society. You're figuring out, you know, how you can live life where, you know, the most important things for you are not being sacrificed, right? So, yeah, it's it sounds really cool and and I really love that one thing you said about core moments, about core memories with where you are right now in life. You know, we definitely are aging every day, right? Time is the only thing that we can't buy with money or with anything at this point, right? It's the only asset that we can't make more of as of now with current technology. So, right, uh knowing that, hey, what are the sacrifices I would make if I don't go on this one trip? If I don't spend, you know, um this birthday with my loved ones, what would it be like? you know, looking back into the future. I know that many of my friends would say, "Oh, if they regret, it's not about not making that one investment. It's more about, oh, we missed that, you know, birthday party with my daughter or, you know, I I I didn't go on that trip with my friend and my family and they were all talking about it, but I was kept outside the loop, you know, and five years down the line, I still regret it, you know. So truly living a life where you don't have to escape from and you don't have you have minimum regret I think that is very wealthy actually and it makes me wonder with where you are in life right now how do you define a wealthy life for yourself? M. Oh man, it's interesting because the more there was a time when all you wanted is just more money and not to have to worry. But the big joke is it doesn't actually change anything. Um like the day that I hit a million net worth, I just went out and got the same lunch that I always get like my tacos, you know, it's living at the time, so it's like $3. Yeah. Like not a lot changes. So yeah, for me these days, what I'm vibing with is wealth is like living living with love. A lot of how much love you experience on a daily basis. I really think the reason we all want more money at the end of the day, if you really dig deep, like why do you want that? Okay, well why do you want that? It always boils down to we just want to experience more love and connection in our lives, whether it's with ourselves or have more time not have to work so much so we can have more time to spend with our loved ones. either for our kids or whatever. At the end of the day, it's like to experience more love. So yeah, to me, wealth means the amount of love that you experience on a daily basis with yourself and with your loved ones. So I say even without all the dollars, even if all that went away, I still feel very wealthy. I'm very happy to say that like I' I've invested in my relationships, have a good partner, amazing partner. So that's that's really where like the true wealth is, right? And health too. Being healthy. I agree. I agree. You know, I think uh when it comes to our health, uh I imagine my body as like a house to have to live in for the next, you know, 60 70 years. And um yeah, we want to keep it clean, right? Totally. Totally. Yeah. I love that, Rose. Living in a state where we can have more love. you know, the money is the tool. We really just want to experience more love with the people who matter to us. So, I think that's a really good um I would say frame of reference for everyone to take away from as well. You know, it's just about how do we experience more love and how do we act with love, right? Um so, Rose, I'm curious, right? Uh where can people learn more about this exciting book of yours, At a Zero, that's coming out? Yeah. So, it's called At a Zero, a step-by-step guide to financial freedom and getting to your first million. And I've really broken down phase by phase how to completely transform your finances and do it in a way that's that feels doable because there's phases, you know, getting to zero and then getting to 10,000, getting to 100,000, and then from 100,000 to a million is another set of strategies and mindset shifts. So, I really break it down in that way. And I'm super excited to just share this playbook, you know, with the world. So to learn more about it, it's addero.com adazero.com. And it's out in September 2nd, so it's available for pre-order now. If you pre-order right now, you get some really cool bonuses. Um, and and yeah, I'm I'm at it's Rose Han on all socials. YouTube is sort of my jam. That's really where I share the most. So that's where people can find me. That's very exciting. And I love the fact that you had a stage in your book that is reaching the zero. I think that's something that a lot of people don't talk about. Shame in that. Right. Right. Which is very interesting. Can can I dive into that final part with you a bit because I know that a lot of people, you know, they have shame around money. They have guilt around money, right? And you obviously went through the journey of releasing that. You were talking about releasing the beliefs that don't serve you, releasing the the stories that were holding you back. Can you run us a bit through how you went through that journey? It's really a it's a choice. It's a choice to accept yourself where you're at. And there's a lot of beauty and also seeing the advantages of that that way of thinking. Like if you ended up in debt, like why did you end up in debt? Oh, it's because I um really wanted to make my parents proud and I thought the best way to do that was to go to a really good school and the best way to do that was to get a lot of student loans. Well, what was my real intention there? It was to make my parents proud cuz that's really important to me. And I went about it not in the most financially savvy way, but there was some really a beautiful intention behind there. So, can you focus on the good intention behind what you were trying to do there, but maybe didn't do in the finance in the financially wisest way that really helps you forgive yourself a little. Like if you got if you racked up a bunch of credit card debt, well, maybe you were you just wanted to feel good about yourself and your friends kept inviting you to things and you had a hard time saying no because you really value time with your friends and you don't want to be left out. Like that's that's human. That's okay. You know, it's good. I'd like you to do it in a more financially savvy way, but the intention behind it was okay. So really just at the end of the day it's all it's all about just accepting ourselves like just not being so hard on ourselves. I think just overall in the world we can all benefit from a little more kindness whether it's to each other or to ourselves and your finances are going to improve so much as a result. Wow, that is profound. I really do agree. We can be really judgmental and really harsh on ourselves. So being kinder, allowing ourselves to accept and release uh is going to allow people to move forward. Exactly. That's very wise. Well, Rose, thank you so much for your time today. You have shared so many gems of wisdom with our viewers. I'm taking a lot of notes and uh I'm just so grateful that you're here and I'm so excited for your book. I'm so excited for you to share more around the world, you know, cuz you have such great energy. You have so much to share uh with your story and uh I want to send you a ton of love as well. We're talk about love. So, we'll send you a ton of love on this next chapter of your life. So, alleg Thank you. Thank you. It's been really great to be here. And if there's just one takeaway that I want people to get from this is you're doing good. You're doing great. you know, like I believe in you. You're doing better than you know. Let's just just keep going. Just focus on stay in your lane and just keep going because you're headed somewhere great. That's a beautiful way to end this segment. Thank you so much, Rose. Bye, guys. Bye. And that was Rose Han, ladies and gentlemen. That was such a synchronistic session because it was really hard for us to find a time that worked well for both of us. And to be quite frank, in the end, it wasn't the best time either. But one thing we talked about during the session is that the universe responds to who you're being, not what you're doing. And we decided to in the end just lean into and step into your being. being uh present with the conversation, having fun, and really enjoying um the insights that were compounding one after another. And we decided, you know what, even if we can't find a perfect time to do this, let's just find a time that feels right. And so, we made it happen. And what really stood out for me is also how she said, "Abundance isn't earned, it's allowed." Now, that was such a gentle shift, but I felt that it was a pretty deep one because if you've been trying to do your way into more wealth and more abundance and you're kind of hitting a wall, this might be an invitation to feel your way into happy money instead. And that's what she really did, right? To feel her way throughout her journey into what she's doing today. And by the way, if you haven't already, definitely check out her book that's coming out at a zero. I think it's an amazing read. I got the uh early copy obviously from her. Very grateful. And I think it's a good book to check out. Now, one last thing to note is that since we've gone through so much right throughout the summit, a quick reminder that you don't have to fix everything overnight. You know, we're in an industry where a lot of people often say take massive action. And I think there's truth in that. However, I also think that the superpower is in consistent action. If you do one new action, one new insight, 1% of improvement every day, that compound effect is really what's going to take you far. If you take massive action and it's just for one day and completely lose steam afterwards, you will not get the growth and the results that you are desiring. So, I want to invite you all to just choose one new thought, one new action every single day and improve 1% every day. Consistency beats explosiveness. So, let's take a breath. Let's let it land and let's get on with our next speaker who's going to bring us all into a conversation that will take us deeper into our egos, our inner childs, and sorry, inner children. I think that's the right way to say it. And the patterns that are keeping you from feeling truly alive and it is none other than Dr. Shafali. I'm very curious who has heard of Dr. Shafali or read her work or seen her videos before. Can you type in the chat? Because she's the New York Times bestselling author known globally for her work in conscious parenting. Now, that could be a very misleading title because you might think, oh, it's just about parenting children. It's also actually is mostly about parenting your inner child and also the another book that she wrote personal awakening. Oprah has called her one of the most profound spiritual teachers of our time. And today she's not just going to talk about parenting. She's going to talk about how to reparent yourself and reclaim your authenticity and finally break free from all the outdated roles that uh you know has been looming after you. those labels that you don't really resonate at all with anymore. It might have helped you at one point in your life, but right now they're not serving you so you can fully show up powerfully in your life, in your work, and with your relationships. This is going to be a fun one. So, get ready and please welcome Dr. Shafali to the stage. I'm so excited to h welcome my mentor in parenting and also my friend uh Dr. Shafali on this beautiful summit. Uh so uh before I read uh her bio I just want to invite her now so um um with her I can uh just read this together. So Dr. Safari, thank you so much for coming to my show. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Thank you for welcoming me. You know, I've been to Tokyo before and we met and I did a talk there on parenting. So, I have uh fond memories of Japan and and of course all of all of the world. Your work is all over the world. It's not just in Japan. Thank you. And it was just a short visit. So, I wish I could uh you know taken you or your family uh to Kyoto and other places. But before we start, let me just uh uh read your bio bio very briefly. You know all the viewers uh on this uh happy earth summit probably know uh Dr. Shafali already but uh let me read her bio. Dr. Shafali is a worldrenowned clinical psychologist, threetime New York Times bestselling author and a leading expert in the inter intersection of Eastern spirituality and western psychology. Her book, The Conscious Parent, which I really love, reframed parenting as a path to spiritual awakening, an idea so powerful it earned the praise of Oprah Winfrey, who called her work revolutionary. In her sub subsequent books, The Awakened Family and the Radical Awakening, Dr. Safali continues to empower readers to strip away societal conditioning, emotional baggage and false identities to reclaim their authentic power and purpose. Dr. Shafali also teaches deeply about emotional freedom, identity healing and purpose for living. As a founder of the global inner disarmament movement, she leads online courses and global events that help individuals awaken from unconscious conditioning, step into their power, and create lives rooted in peace, authenticity, and inner wealth. Wow, this is so impressive. And uh I'm so happy to uh welcome you. And I know you're so busy. We you just got back from international travel. So, thank you so much. extra thank you for um doing this with us. Thank you. I was actually uh touring in Indonesia and Singapore. I did talks there and late last year I was in Thailand. So like you uh we travel the world. We're so lucky that uh we get to visit and to teach. Uh this is something I know we both share in common. Yes. And uh uh today not only I want to ask you questions about parenting but also you are the expert in uh unconditional uh conditions that we have. So uh first of all um as a clinical psychologist what do you see what's going on in the world? It's so chaotic. People seem to have a hard time dealing with what's happening. So uh since you're traveling around globally what do you see what's happening in the world? uh psychologically speaking. Well, you know, the core of my work in conscious parenting is all about how the parent is connected, how the parent is present, how the parent is able to create boundaries in a very connected way, not in a punishing way, especially when your child is from 0 to 18, right? Because that sets up a foundation. So when I travel the world now, I see it even less and less and less because now parents have a phone in their hand, the children have a phone in their hand. Now we have a babysitter in our pocket, right? So we are outsourcing our parenting to other people, to the screens, to the video games, and the children are completely well behaved. They sit in their seats. The other day in Indonesia, I was at a restaurant. There were three children, all of them on their iPads. On another table was the nanny, but she was the old-fashioned uh, you know, nanny. Now we have the new nanny, which is the iPad. And so parents parents are giving up that connection. And that is going to have a lot of consequences. It already has consequences. We're already seeing that teenagers and young adults are more in their room, right? you know about the hikumori phenomenon in Japan where where young men are stuck in their rooms. They're not leaving their rooms. This is a problem and especially for our young teenagers who are not dating, they're not mating, they're not experimenting, they're not going out anymore and they're going to become more and more isolated. And with isolation comes a lot of mental health issues. You know, loneliness is different. We can loneliness is is something we don't need to be afraid of. But when it's loneliness through isolation, that is another level of loneliness we're talking about, right? We all are alone. We're all going to die. There's a certain level of loneliness in our lives. But when it becomes acute and chronic through isolation and you're only talking to an algorithm and to robots, you know, the other day I heard about a cyber brothel. So a brothel now it's a cyber brothel like Only Fans, right? So it what is going to happen when we don't know how to connect and how to love and how to have sex with each other and we only need a robot with a button? It is going to be disastrous. And this is the way we're heading and it's really sad for me to see. I don't look at it as progress. I look at it as as devolution. And it's a problem. We were doing good. I mean it was it was fun. We could fly to different countries. We could eat up our food. We were good. Good. Like stuff that was good, convenient. It helped us to connect. Now we're on the other side where it's helping us to disconnect. Yes, I I totally agree with you. And uh uh but you know like technologies like this, we are u almost like on on the other of the planet other side of the planet, but we still can communicate like this. So there are some good side of technology but it seems to divide us you know I've seen families like family of four in Japan just texting to each other what are you having you know you can say that right he's in front of you and then dad replies okay maybe chicken and so instead of just talking they are just uh uh texting each other and I think it's uh quite common for young people I I heard that they text each other even though they're like group five. So that's a little scary but that's what I think caused all the bad parenting like 15 20 years ago. So I think u parenting has been uh changed in America in Europe and in Japan. What do you see the big differences be uh between good old days and now? Yeah I mean the biggest difference is this that that we are doing less connecting. We're less talking. We're less being in presence. But I would tell you that all over the world it's the same issue. You know, you would think that, oh, in the east it's different in the west. Now the difference in the east which could be a little bit better but I I say that with caution is that Indonesia, Thailand I think Japan, India those countries those cultures Japan for sure actually are very communal are very we based like Japan is founded upon the Wii philosophy. Right now what that does is give this inherent sense of you know interdependence and these Buddhist cultures these Hindu cultures uh they really foster community like I I visited Bali and Bali is all about community Japan Thailand all about community India so this is the good side of community and what the good side of community can do is that it can bring us together and at least there's that now there's a bad side of community which is you lose your individuality and people lost in the obligation and the social pressure. Yes. Um however at least they come together at least they're connected. So that's a good part. In the west I see that there's no there's no good side no bad side of community because there it's there's not a focus. So you're more and more individual and now you have these screens and so you don't ever have to talk to anybody. You don't even have to go to you don't have to go to the store. You don't have to wait for a bus. You don't have to wait go to a restaurant anymore. Everything comes home. And what we what we don't realize that for the sake of convenience, we are killing the whole purpose of being human. Like the purpose of human was to go kill our food and and find our food and then sit around the fire and talk. Okay, that's too primitive. We decided no problem. But then what is the purpose that that what are we doing here? There's like nothing to do. We're taking out everything to do and we're just going to sit and and just rot on our ass, you know. We're just going to sit and rot. That's what we're going to do. And and that is not healthy. Well, you know, even even me, I don't use my brain as much like because I can just ask Google or I can ask Siri or I can ask GPT. I'm not like thinking more. I'm like, "Oh, let me just ask." And what that is doing to my brain cells is like rotting them. Now this is us. We didn't grow up like this. So we know how to think. But think three generations down. They're going to grow up with this. Oh, let let me why should I even think? Everything is available on on chat GPT. Why should I think for myself? Yeah. So uh I have prepared some questions. So uh can I go a little deeper with this? Yes. So your work often begins with asking people to wake up from the identities they're consciously unconsciously inherited. Why is that inner awakening so important to discovering true purpose? Well, because we are when we grow up, we grow up in an unconscious environment. We have to put on these identities to survive. M so we we have to become something and that is the false self and what I teach in my courses in my podcast in my coaching institute is how do we get rid of these false selves so that we can get in touch with our authentic self and then we can operate from that authentic place because as long as we're operating from the false self we are only catering to the outside world and we are not catering to what's going on inside ourselves. But I think often times that we're supposed to do what's best for your family if you're in Asian culture or if what the society thinks it's cool like to have a good car, good career. So um it's so hard to listen to yourself instead of kind of trying to cope with what's happening in the world. So how can we turn our attention into um inner inner side? Well, it's not easy even to more today than ever before. It's not easy to turn inward. But think about this that your whole life will go by and you won't know what you who you really are. And that's why I teach what I do because I take people on a journey to discover who they are because we dis we deserve that once in our life to live as we are before we die. Otherwise our whole life is living according to cultures prescriptions and my family's prescript what my mother wants from me what my my family thinks I should do and we never discover it. And what I teach people is at least let's discover it and maybe live like that a little bit and then it'll grow. And when people begin to do that, Ken, their whole life changes. And it takes time, but they begin to change the patterns in their relationships. They begin to live more free. Even if it's in little pockets, at least they have some mental liberation and freedom. And that is huge. And I always tell people like before you die at least a little bit you need to start connecting to who you are. You are here ultimately for you. And let me tell you when you begin to live more like yourself you don't need to escape in videos or movies or Netflix. You don't need to escape. You know I was in Indonesia for seven weeks. Ask me how many Netflix I watched. Not even one. And I thought I would have watched something every night, but I was so tired living in beauty and loving my day that I was tired by night. So what I'm saying is we are escaping because we don't know who we truly are. True. True. Yeah. I so agree with you. Often times people ask me can how can I just find myself? But your true self is not uh just you can find on the street in India or in New York. So my question to you is how can people know if they're living from their true self or just following somebody's idea of success? How can you tell the difference? You can tell the difference right away. I mean the difference is the the it's like how do you know if some is a food is tasty? Mhm. It's different for everybody. So I can't tell you a recipe but when you put it in your mouth you have this sense of like oh you know like a in a choir. That's how it is when you are in yourself. Let me ask people to tell me if they've ever felt this. Do you feel excited to get out of bed every morning? You could be tired but do you feel excited? Like I knew I was going to meet you today. This excites me because I'm talking about things that matter to me. Do you feel inspired? Do you feel creative? Are you feeling like, "Oh, I can't wait to stop this." Are you okay doing that thing on your own? That's a real sign of alignment. When you're okay alone and that thing, so if you're doing that thing for somebody else, you need that person to validate you. But when you're doing it and you're happy alone, you know you're doing it for yourself. So when you're cooking, are you in alignment and joyful because you're doing it for yourself? when you're exercising or are you anxious, overthinking, perfectionistic, scared that means you are not in alignment. So the the difference is very clear the minute you understand and you have an experience of it because you know that that is that is something that's just for you. That's when you know you're in your true self because it's just for you. Beautiful. So I think those things are found if you just keep trying something because people say you know I just uh did this and did that and then I don't think uh those are for me and then they kind of quit. So why do you think there are so many people who quit at the beginning stage of searching so they they go on a scavenger hunt and then after two trials I give up. Yeah. They they don't understand that the path way to the true self is through the false self, right? So, you want to find blissful love, well, then you're going to have a lot of messed up relationships. The more you want a deep connection, the more you're going to connect, connect, connect, connect, and disconnect, disconnect, and then fight it. So, people think that, like you said, you're just going to go, "Voila, that's my true self." No, you have to go through lot of pain to get there. But the reason they can't do that is because that foundation is not strong. So the pain breaks them. It's not like they're lazy. It's not that they're lazy. If anyone listening to this is uh saying, "Oh, you know what? I really want to find my true self, but I'm scared." It's not because you're lazy. is because you're fragile and you're you're so afraid of the pain because you did not have that foundation. And that's what I teach people. I give people that foundation and then they can go because I teach them to reparent themselves to become whole and powerful themselves. Then they can go start trying right the reason they they stop after a few times of trying is because inside they fall apart. That's so true. You know, I I think one of the most fun I have is to just um I I have one of the largest online salons in Japan. We have one of the hu uh biggest community of uh people who are learning about happy money, you know, money. So when you feel like uh you're stuck, you your your friends and your community can help and I think you often teach about community and the importance of community. Can you share what you're doing in terms of community? Yeah. So, like you, I believe in community and I created a uh an online global conscious community which which focuses on love, relationships and parenting. So, if you are uh out there looking for love and getting into trouble and relationships and and parenting, come to my community. They get all my workshops, all my courses and every month I do a new workshop every month and it's for free and I have my team to give support 247 and we have the whole community so people can join it. It's called the conscious circle. It's on my website. But like you, I believe that we need to attract and stay connected to people who elevate us, who allow us to grow and who truly support us without competition. And that's why I created this community and it's so meaningful to people and it's helping so many people step by step to liberate themselves. That's uh so beautiful. Um so how does that work? Like see so the people in North America can communicate with the uh their kind of like friends in India. Oh my god. Yes. Yes. Yes. And everywhere I go in the world I have people I can connect. Like my daughter left her iPad in Belgium airport. I was like, "Who do I know from Belgium?" And somebody went and got her her iPad back. You know, she's she's going to Ireland in August. She needs a ride somewhere. I'm like, "Who do I know in Ireland?" So, this is the power of the internet, the good part of it. And uh people are connecting all over the world. Right now, I have one of my people going to Egypt with somebody in Egypt because she met them in my community. So, community is so important. It is the network that allows us to feel alive and and learn and grow. So that I put a lot of my courses there for free. Give a lot of information for free. A lot of support from my team, professional support. So if you are a parent and you're like, I don't know what to do with my kid and it's 3:00 in the morning. You know, you can go and write a question or get help or get support from someone all around the world. Wow, that's an amazing community. And um and also it's so uh seems so accessible for a lot of people because uh if you are into parenting uh that means you're uh young and also you may not have necessarily uh financial resources right I I I definitely will join that you know yeah I'd like to contribute to the community as well so uh you know what's so impressive about your work is not just uh the content of uh what you do but also how you do it. You know, sometimes my problem is I want to be generous. I love to just share what I know. You know, I probably do 80% of the thing for free. Uh so, uh when some people invite me and then they don't have money, I'm happy to do it because I'm financially independent, I get to do that. But sometimes I'm overwhelmed by saying yes to too many things. And and I think we're sort of in the same boat. as much as we want to help, we have to kind of like uh set some boundaries. So I felt uh so honored that you said uh when you said yes to just join this uh happy wealth summit. So how do you sort of deal with this? This is my personal question to you. Well, before I was even worse, right? I just said yes to everything. Now I have a s I have a system. The system is person or thing. So if it's a person so the minute some our our contact said will you do Ken's summit I was like of course because I like the person I know the person I feel good in my heart when I think of the person I have good vibes the person so person is green flag even if it's two hours and I'm like I don't like the thing but I like the person I want I want to support the person so the person is first right very important thank you I feel so I feel so honored Because I, you know, I had a a little talk chat with my staff members and your name came up. Oh, I don't know. She's so so super famous. You know, we did an event together in Tokyo. I I don't know if she even remembers me. So, but at least you can say that if she remembered me and but out of all the busy schedule, if she said yes, that's a miracle. So, I'm so glad you remembered me. Thank you. Of course. Of course. You're very memorable. But also that's a lesson for people listening that you don't realize that people are always going to remember if you are memorable. So, so help be extra smiley uh be extra friendly not too much but be extra helpful helpful you know so many times Ken like you and I are kind of famous but many times people will write to me and ask me to help them but they've not helped me they've not helped me not that not that it's a transaction but show me something why who are you right so you have to rise above the noise to be memorable so that's the person and the thing the thing has to feel good to me. The the the project has to feel good to me. Now, that is harder because there's so many projects and every project has a good title and a good So, I'm very careful if I don't know the person. I'm ve or the person hasn't like shown up in my community as a helper. Uh I am very careful to say no to project and I and I've just learned to say no. Sorry, I'm unavailable. Sorry, I'm too busy. Sorry, I cannot do it. Um, and and I get asked to write forwards for books and give quotes for book, but how many books can I go through? I have like 45 at a time. So, I've and books are, you know, from the heart they have a good message, but I I I've learned to say no. And the way I've learned to do it is to be okay disappointing people. You know, I know that I give a lot of stuff for free. I know how much heart I have. So people don't need to know that, you know. I don't need to prove to people anymore. I know how much I give to people and I'm okay saying no. I'm okay charging. Many people say, "Oh, how come you're charging? You're supposed to be a guru. You I don't even listen to it anymore because I know like you how much stuff for free I put into it." So now I've learned to be comfortable. And the answer is, do you know yourself? And if you know yourself, let anybody think what they like, including your children, including your partner, including your mother. If they don't know, they don't know. They're never going to know. Let it go. Because people's consciousness is at different levels. You know, we are trying to get somebody to see us thinking they are the same consciousness as us, but they are, sorry to say, not of the same consciousness. Sorry. So, how are you? They're not going to see you because they're looking here. You're saying, "Can you see me?" But they're here. So they can only, you see, people can only see each other at the level of their consciousness. True. Yeah. It's so true. Sometimes, you know, u all the uh leaders or my friends are kind of foreseeing what could happen in 2030 or 2040. you know at the time how the parent could be for me how would happy money could be in the world of 20 2040 instead of 2025. So sometimes I I'm I'm little to advance in terms of uh what's happening in in the world. So I I I feel probably you feel the same way that the world could be like this probably in 2045 but look look 20s before. Uh so do you feel sometimes frustrated about the difference or you feel okay this is the reality let's just kind of go toward that goal? No, I feel uh there there's a part of me I try to keep it like a part that is very frustrated, very depressed. Yeah. Very scared, very mad, very angry, breachful. So I try to keep it in a bubble. And then there's the grown, the wise part of me that says, "You can't control it. It's not your business. You are not God. There, you know, there's nobody here who can control this And you need to live your life as selfish as it sounds. And you need to create your little sphere of joy and influence and focus on that. And I just come back to myself. What can I do? How can I show up? How can I speak up every day and live my life with intention? I could die tomorrow. So let me not worry about other things I cannot control. Let me just control what I can. you know, I just want to send my deepest respect and also admiration for you because I know what you're doing uh at least for me and uh that means so much to the planet. So, I just thank you personally from the bottom of my heart that you're doing great. So, I'm so proud of you for doing what you do and who you are. Thank you. That means a lot to me. I feel this connection with you without words. Yeah. So from you know uh my uh from another colleague to to the other you know but sometimes we often could be the target of criticizing without just even reading my our books right and and also it's okay it's sort of like let them just say whatever they want but still I just want to um like this summit will be probably viewed by very beautiful people because who' watched the happy wealth summit right so I they are very understanding of what you teach. So I want to go a little deeper with uh your um teaching. So uh another question is what is one belief about success or selfworth you personally had to unlearn on your own path to freedom? Can you just elaborate on this? What are the the biggest lesson I've had to learn is if that success comes at the cost of freedom for me it's not worth it. Mhm. So in my own work and world, I could be way more successful on paper. Um, but it would take away my freedom. Yes. I've had a real balance of I'm a mother. I like to hang out with my girlfriends. I like to be alone. I don't want to wake up every day to 60 people saying, "What are we doing today?" I I I don't I can I'm not that's not me. So I think I had to learn how to define success for me. Personally, another person loves to have 100 people under them. Good for them. It's not for me. I needed to define it based on my terms. And for me, freedom where I can just say, "Okay, I'm out. I'm going to travel was very was as important to me as money. Yes, I am always balancing that. So, I work super hard, like crazy hours, and then I'll take off for a week and work much less." And that's the way I've created my life in these pockets. And people know, oh, Shafali's disappeared because I'm working like a crazy person because I I'm paying the price for that freedom. You see, freedom to me is very important, more important to me than money in the bank. Mhm. But still, I think you and I want to have some kind of influence or just support for other people that we really care about. like for you uh people parents who are struggling I feel you you have so much love and and heart for them. So as much as you know who you are and just uh set up your boundaries, you are so giving, you're so sharing of what you know and who you are almost like a saint from my eyes. Right. So I know. So I'm just curious what uh what are the motivations or inspirations you have for young parents or the people who struggle? Yeah. Yeah. I think I think and what I'm going to say now is going to uh surprise people because I want them to pay attention to what I'm saying. Yes. So when people like us are out there in the self-help field, we have to be very careful about our own ego. Yeah. And I always have to watch my ego of of wanting to be needed. So my thing as a woman which I have been fighting with is my savior fantasy. You know I have a savior fantasy. So when I see broken people part of it is my good heart genuinely good heart like empathic compassionate but part of it I go too far far and I want to say it. And that is something I've had to really learn to to not look at myself as a saint. And that's when you say it, I'm like, "Oh, no, no, no. I've worked so hard to not be a saint." So, how do I do that? I I genuinely I I check in with myself. Is this coming from like a genuine place, Shifali, or is this because you want to be you want people to say, "Wow, wow, wow." And and it's it's difficult because I'm like a little bit wow wow wow. But it should it should come more from my heart genuinely from my heart because and people need to really realize this. It's a lot of work. It is so much work, right? You and I make it look easy because we're so excited but it's a lot of work. I mean, you know, everyone tells me, you make it look easy, but you're putting effort and work and hours and hours and hours. And so the the magic formula is do something that truly comes from here, not from here. You know, if you can, if you're lucky in life to be able to listen, many people cannot do it. They have to go work at the grocery store. They hate it, but they have to do it. And I and I applaud people who do what they need to do because they have to do it. But for the rest of us who have a little bit in the bank who can play with it, try to find something that speaks to your inner heart and go with that. Like my daughter, I want her to do X and she's like, "Sorry, not my passion. Not my passion." And I'm like, "But you're so good at it. It's your talent, right?" Mom is trying to make her to control her. And she's like, "Mom, it's not my passion." And I'm like, "How can it not be your passion? You're so good at it. So just because you're good at something doesn't mean it's your passion, right? That is so true. I so agree with you. Yeah. So you know, so so here comes an another question. So uh say people are stuck and they want to be a a better parent, better husband, better wife and also they want to find uh their true purpose in life, but they're stuck in a job that uh uh they're supposed to do something to bring food on the table. What would be the typical steps? Yes, there is five minutes in the day or in between your shift that you can start doing something that you love. So, say I want to be Dr. Shafali, but I'm working in a grocery store. Mhm. You know, I can be Dr. Shafali a little bit in in my lunch break with my colleague in my with the with the old lady who comes to with a grocery bag. I can find a way to ignite my heart and start evolving into that next version of myself. There's little things I can do like I I wanted to be an author but I was so busy. I was an intern. I was a PhD student. I had a baby. But let me tell you any little time I had I was writing. I was writing. So there is a way to nurture the spark but it's slow. It took me 10 15 years to get to there. Right. So people think it should be fast. It's not a fast process. Ken and I have been developing this for years and years and years. Uh and people think it happens overnight because we show up in their consciousness overnight. But we have been we have been creating ourselves for a long time. Right. Yeah. I I so I can so resonate with what you say. And also another question is like for you what would be the most uh and also the next step fun stuff uh exciting stuff that you're doing so I want to know you it could be your online courses could be your mastermind could be your book what's your next exciting right so the the biggest exciting thing besides my community uh two two things I have I have a podcast and in my podcast I do interventions like therapy in real time in 15 minutes. So if people want to get quick tips, they can follow my podcast. It's for free. And then I have a coaching institute and many of people in Japan are my coaches where I train you to do what I do. And so two things happen in my coaching institute. You become an amazing parent because you've learned all the skills and you get to have a career teaching other people. So I literally have 10 coaches in almost every country around the globe now. Turkey, Kazakhstan, uh, Bolivia, everywhere. So we need more coaches out there doing the work I do. And it's a five month online course. It's less than $10,000, but it is like a master's, a PhD in psychology and self-help in one capsule. And and I teach eastern philosophy and western psychology. and I I've taken the best of what I've learned and put it into this program. Amazing. And and I'm so happy to help uh if there's any way I can do for a Japanese audience as well and also international. Wow. So, you know, I'm just uh what excited about uh what you're doing with online courses and the community and u uh all the different things. So, are you writing another book? I I love your books. So, I you know Yes, I'm writing two more books. uh they are uh sis they're twins of each other it's on raising conscious sons boys and one for girls because there's a big crisis in today's world big crisis our boys are experiencing a unique crisis our girls are experiencing a unique crisis so I'm going to really help parents address this gender- wise wow so do you know when it's coming out uh hopefully in spring next year Oh okay so you're working on it Yes. Okay. Great. So, thank you so much for um just u briefing everything you have and I'm so happy to support you in any way I can and also all the viewers are so excited about learning your your your material. So, thank you. Maybe I'll come and do a a parenting thing in your community or somewhere, you know, I'm happy to. Yes, I'd be happy uh to talk about it, you know, afterwards. So, okay. So, back to this happy wealth summit. So what would be so I just want you to uh um to talk about what would be the few keys for anybody to bring happiness and wealth at the same time into their life. So I think uh happiness and wealth are both very important. Wealth is important. You need to be able to put food on your table. So I always talk about two layers of existence and I was at the first layer for a long time. The first layer is about what I have to do. What I have to do to put food on the table. I mean I was tutoring math. I was teaching young kids. Anything. I was hustling. So if you are in the hustle stage, do it. But in the pockets start creating the next level. And the next level is what I love to do not what I have to do. And but all of us unless we get have rich parents who've given us a lot of money, we have to start with what do I need to do? So don't worry if you are trapped in the what do I need to do and say oh Ken is so lucky he gets to talk about his passion. No, he also started out like this. We all did this but in the pockets we began to water the seeds for what I love to do and then you get there and then you can really begin to fly. But it takes years, you know. So don't be in a hurry. Don't be restless. We all have to go through this journey. And unless again we're very privileged to be of wealthy parents, all of us have to start through the survival. Yes. And I so agree with you. I heard u the the all the great uh books of the for many authors were written on the kitchen table at 2 a.m. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's very ordinary. People think it's glamorous, but it's very ordinary, very sweaty, very tiring, very frustrating. Oh my goodness. You know, before I used to live in this little apartment. I rented it out in New York City. It's just, you know, it was I didn't even have a heater, right? So, people see the glamour, but they don't realize where we've come from. Yeah. So, thank you so much for sharing um about your personal life and your visions, and I I so appreciate for all the energy you shared with us. So, thank you so much. Yes. And let us know uh uh also we're going we'll make sure that all the information that uh people can learn from you will be there. But where can you find where can people find you? They can just they people can find me at drshafali.com. Everything is there. My community, my podcast, my coaching institute, my books, it's all there. Okay. Thank you so much. So I hope to see you in person somewhere on this planet. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining. I feel like we all just got our hearts cracked open lovingly by Dr. Shafali. Thank you Dr. Shafali for holding up a mirror and helping us remember who we really are underneath the masks that we sometimes put on either consciously or even unconsciously. And for anyone who's ever struggled with the question, who am I if I'm not achieving? I think that was the permission slip that you didn't know you may have needed. And I think that a lot of people can resonate with that. So you are not alone. I'm very curious who got something out of Dr. Shafali's session. Can you type in the chat what was the insight that stood out to you? For me, I feel like Dr. Shafali is just amazing at allowing us to really look deep within and accepting that inner child that we sometimes may not have acknowledged before or you know we really needed to heal and they're still there in the corner kind of like waiting for our attention. I feel like I had a a really nice moment with mine as I was listening to that session. And now we are arriving at our final speaker of the summit. What a way to end this experience because the next speaker needs no introduction, but I'll do it anyways. Please welcome Dr. Michael Beckwith. I'm curious who has heard of Dr. Michael Beckwith before. Please type in the chat. He is the visionary founder of the Agape International Spiritual Center and also a renowned teacher featured in The Secret and a recurring teacher in Mine Valley. one of the best sessions I have attended to to Mind Valley before. He's also a lifetime voice in the movement of awakened living. And the thing about Michael's presence is that it's like a soul medicine. You're listening to him speak and it's like a song to the soul. So, I'm really looking forward to you all to really experience his words and his magic. Now, if you ever wondered how to stay alignment in alignment. Now, if you ever wondered how do you stay in alignment after the summit and how to keep listening and moving with purpose, then this session is for you. Please give a big big round of applause to our final speaker of the summit, Dr. Michael Bewith. I'm so excited especially with this guest and I don't need to introduce him so I just want to go right into the interview. Um, Reverend Michael Beckwith. Hi Michael. Thank you so much for coming. Brother Ken, it's always a joy to be with you. It's always a deep sense of love and coherence whenever we come together. Thank you so much. your showing up means a lot to me. Can I share um about our meeting in India to begin with? Sure. Yeah, that was great. That was great. So, you know, uh our mutual friend Janet Atwood said, "Ken, are you interested in coming to India?" And I said, "Yes, but like uh a few days before maybe a week, Janet said, "Sorry, Ken, I can't go." So, like, oh my god, I was supposed to go with my daughter and to India without knowing uh uh many people. And then I bump in into this person who is shining. And somehow I thought he's Indian because he's wearing this uh very traditional clothes. And then I just uh bump into this person a lot in the bathroom in cafeteria. So I I we started uh engaging conversation and that turned out to be this uh Reverend Michael Beckwith. And I was so shocked because the the reverend I knew had long hair. So I the to the person I was talking to he's very friendly he's very open and very uh you know naturally attractive but two different people and then that was a pleasant surprise for us. So thank you and I think that I think we heard each other speak there too make presentations. Yeah and it was uh such a fun memory that all of us went into the Ganga River together. Yeah. Yes. We we got dunked. We dunked ourselves in the Ganes and it became like instant family with your daughter and you and me and Lee and you know and other people as well. Sadvi, it was just a very beautiful reunion of souls. Yeah. So, thank you so much and today we're going to talk about happiness and wealth which is your field. So, uh I'm especially excited about um this interview. So, let me just start by asking you, uh, could wealth and happiness coexist from your viewpoint? Well, absolutely. Um, I mean, you don't you're not really wealthy unless you have the joy and the happiness. True. Often times people think that if you have a lot of money, then you're wealthy. But that's that's to me that's a very limited understanding of what wealth is when you understand that wealth and well-being go hand in hand. So wealth is not only having all of your legitimate needs met, but it's also um activating the innate joy that's within our souls, which has something to do with activating our gifts, something to do with how we're making a contribution to the world, our own neighborhoods, our own cities, wherever we are. So, so wealth and happiness are are together. And what we see often times when we see people with a lot of money that are in trouble, they're doing wild things or mismanaging their life, they're not really wealthy, they're they're they're often times they represent poverty of the soul but with a lot of money. And so, uh, when we talk about as you talk about happy money, as we talk about real wealth, it's both. It's it's it's it's um it's a it's symbiotic, you know, it's synergetic joy, generosity, creativity, love, peace, uh legitimate needs being met, prosperity. I I call it harmonizing prosperity, you see. Yeah. Yeah. So, I was uh invited to one of the beautiful uh uh I I I I should not call it an event. It's a service that you did in during the Easter time. I was blown away. I thought it's a Broadway musical. I thought it was a, you know, I went to a a Christian school, so it's very quiet, very, you know, nobody talks, nobody even coughs. And sneeze, if you sneeze, people look at you. So that's the the the the image I had with a a service you know and then you everybody was singing everybody's dancing like oh my god I think this is where after I die I I I would go and then you know being greeted by these beautiful singers and I saw a pure joy uh and uh nobody's like a a professional singers getting paid on the stage. Everybody is just singing out of joy. Right. Well, you know, it's an old statement that says joy is the evidence of God. So when when there's real joy, that is the presence of God. However you define this presence, I defined it as the presence that's never an absence. It's life itself everywhere. And when it's when it's active in us, there's there's joy. So when you came into the the the service, you know, there's prayer, there's affirmation, there's meditation, silence, as you saw on the Easter service, there was excuse me, singing, dancing, and then my message, you know, and then and and then the the um the congregation, the audience, they're free to express how they want to express. They can stand up, they can clap, they can be silent, they can be enjoyed, they can scream, whatever, you know. So, it's more it's it's it's it's an it's an event. It's a happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was so happy and there's no judgment. There's no uh pretense um in in the in the big huge place and I've never been to uh such a soul freeing event in my life. So I forever appreciate you for um just that's beautiful to hear because you know people always ask you know like when you pass over out of this life what happens and I tell them sometimes that basically unconditional love and judgment can't exist in the same space. So when you pass over there's no judgment from a loving presence. There's self-reflection. There's ways that you look at yourself to see if you measured up to what you were supposed to do. But that judgment isn't coming from God because God is love. That judgment is our own self-reflection that mistakes we made and the regrets and things of that particular nature. So I think a spiritual community is to reflect that. No judgment. Discernment obviously you have to discern certain things you know when you're on this side of the veil. But it's a non-judgmental place. Why you see everybody's there you know there's all people there's many languages being spoken there's all people from all around the world the the demography carries you know pretty much every they they used to call us n some people still do the United Nations of spirituality you know everybody's there yeah that's yeah you said it so right and the people who welcome us at the uh the front are so friendly I feel so welcomed So please, you know, thank them for just being so welcoming and uh loving. I could I could feel the instant love when I step into the the venue. So I really appreciate for um creating space like that. And I I appreciate that feedback. We're in our we're in our 39th year. Wow. Agape is in in in November the 30th. Agape International will be 39 years young. Wow. Well, you so young for that. Thank you. You started from your grade school, right? Well, little little bit beyond that. But they used to they used to call me the the the elders at that time would call me the boy preacher. Yeah. Now, you know, you're getting but still you look young, you know. So, yeah. Thank you for that. Okay. So um you know I'm just uh getting a little disturbed by what's happening in the world because the uh inflation and the cost is rising. So people are feeling a little crunch uh because the all the prices are going up except our salary or fees. So people are are getting worried and frustrated. Uh what would you say to those people who are uh worrying about the future of money? Well, you know, we're in a time of great flux. You know, I I've said over the years that we're it's fluxed up, fluxed up. And so, you know, we're in a time what we're at the at the macro level, at the large level, when you step back and look at what's going on, you see that there's a great sea change that's happening. And there are certain it's a paradigm that's dying and there's another emerging paradigm that's happening. But as quantum physics shows us two things can exist at the same time in the same space but they're vibrating differently. So when we re when we look at the news we're seeing a report of an old paradigm. When we listen to you and we listen to people that are have peaked into reality, you're seeing reporters of the new paradigm, love and generosity and peace and we become the um place through which the new paradigm emerges. All needs met. Everyone has living running water. Uh war becomes a thing of the past. you know, we become the ambassadors of what's trying to emerge. So, as we're moving through this tumultuous time, we have to go within and we instead of looking out and saying, "Oh my god, tariffs, prices going up." That's true. Those are facts. You know, wars happening in Ukraine and Gaza, Israel, you know, those are facts. Rwanda, yes, facts. But what we have to do is we have to go within and we have to feel. Everything is this is a feeling universe and the feeling is how you how the universe responds back to you. I I I've taught over the years that our frequency is is our real currency, you know. And so we have to actually feel what it feels like to have all of our needs met. What does it feel like to be safe? But not based on an external condition. If you if you base it on an external condition, you have anxiousness, anxiety, worry, doubt, fear. You have to feel that. And then what happens is you're able to receive guidance and direction from your soul because it's not there's no static on the line from worry or fear. And then you're able to respond to what appears to be happening in the world appropriately. You cannot respond appropriately if there's anxiousness or anxiety. you're just caught up in the swirl of the mess. So, everyone who's tuning in to your summit is having the opportunity to extract their attention from the world. We call it the world of appearances. Why? Because everything that we can see with this sensorium, the physical senses is is really a condensation of previously held thoughts, beliefs, opinions, positionalities, perceptions, points of view, superstitious thoughts. It's condensed itself in time and space and we think that's real. It's just a vi it's just a dense vibration of worry, doubt, fear, separation, hate, etc. And there's good stuff going on too. So it's the world of appearances. But beyond that world, Ken, there is a presence of abundance and of love and of beauty that's untouched by time and human experience. When one pulls their attention away from the world of appearances on a regular basis, you begin to play in that world even before you can physically see it through feeling nature. And then what happens? You begin to demonstrate what people might call it a coincidence. They may call it serendipity. They may call it spontaneous goodness. They may call it a miracle. But your life starts to change regardless of what's happening outside. And then that develops momentum. And then and then after a while, you're actually living in the awareness that your needs are met regardless of what's happening in the world of appearances. That's one. Two, you become an ambassador of the next stage of human evolution. You you become the the point of light that represents what's trying to happen. You know, it's like the first uh butterfly that breaks out of a cocoon in a nest of cocoons. It's like the first one to to say, "Whoa, there's something beyond something beyond the cocoon." and the other caterpillars are looking up saying I can't I'm not going to get into that. I don't I don't believe that you know but eventually the evolutionary impulse within us um right takes over and what's happening is we and what we do we are the encouraers we are the points of inspiration and description of what's trying to happen because things aren't just going to happen for the human race I say it happens ju they don't it doesn't just happen it happens just meaning We have to participate in it. You see, for instance, you take a an acorn, you know, with with inside that acorn is everything necessary to to give birth to an oak tree. The acorn doesn't have to add anything to it, you know, it's already there. It just has to be in the right condition, the right soil, right water, right nutrition, etc. And then then an oak tree emerges. But for us, we have to participate in our own emergence. It's not going to just happen. That's why we meditate. That's why we um spread generosity, you know, that's why we have compassion. We create a condition so that who we really are begins to emerge. The oak tree within us starts to come forward and it and nothing when that happens, when we vibrate at that level, nothing can block our blessings because we are the vibrational thing. itself, you see. Yeah. Wow. Thank you so much. I you really touched my heart and it you were so poetic, too, you know. Uh when I was at at the Easter uh service, like I was mesmerized, but I I to be honest, I didn't understand everything what you said in English, but still vibration. So, uh you know, like after five minutes, I didn't care what you said. I just wanted to soak up the energy, you know, just forget the English part, but the energy is so beautiful. So I again today like I I'm just this is deja vu of just uh I think a view all the viewers are experiencing the same thing. So and I saw the glimpse of what could be possible for humanity. I'm writing a book on time and money. Uh it's a children's book so people can realize the importance of time and money. But we need to kind of like go through a tough times for at least for a little bit of a few years before I see something beautiful is like what uh what I see. So during the hard time I don't know for uh the next few years we might have to go through together in the time of depression there's a more than 25% of unemployment rate and uh people were just starving and all that but wait a minute I thought 75% of the people had a job that means if the rest of 75% of the people come up with ideas to share our money share our food then we'll be all right we'll get through this without going into war and and other things. So I think the key is to feel we have more than enough. Yes. So I want to share my food. I want to share my clothes. I want to share my money. What would you think about this? No, absolutely. There's there's two things. one, the 75% of the people that are in the halves, you know, they have employment, they have maybe more than they, excuse me, actually need, they become philanthropic to the best that they can and and and create a space for people that don't have to have. But also what I've noticed is that uh during the pandemic and during um 2008 when there was a big global crash and recently more entrepreneurs were birthed that people who had jobs many of them got creative and broke free from having to work for people and developed their own businesses. It was the largest rise of individuals starting their own businesses when they were fired, when they could no longer be employed. So oftentimes when these things happen, it is an an encouragement to develop our creativity to say, "Oh my god, you know, I don't have a job right now. Uh what do I do?" Ask the universe, "What is it mine to do?" And many people birth new businesses that aren't tied to the to the economy. This is tied to fulfilling a need for humanity and they thrived. So I would agree with what you're saying for those who have we have to ask how can we contribute to those who don't have and that those who apparently don't have they have to ask what's trying to be born in me. What am I to give? Maybe there's a business idea within me. Maybe there's a way that I can serve. Maybe I should maybe I should stop looking for a job and start looking for a mission, you know. And and so you combine both of those things together and we'll have more entrepreneurs. And I separate the word um entrepreneur from business person because a business person is sometimes and this is not you know set in stone but just for the sake of our conversation a business person is often bottom line is uh money an entrepreneur's bottom line is contribution to the world and creating space for money. needs both, you know. So many people who are becoming more entrepreneurial are asking how can I make the world a better place with my business, you know. So I I think a lot of that's being born during this time of of tumult if people can just grow out of anxiousness and ask a different form of questioning. Yes. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. So uh I see you not as a uh very spiritual person but also you're a great uh speaker and also you're a great marketer, you're a great business person, you your uh motivation is not to make money but uh in order to have the Agape International which is a big organization keep going you need to generate cash flow attract audience. So uh you're in sort of like a seminar business from from certain perspective. So you're like a very excellent uh CEO of a uh corporation to uh educate people as well. So what would you say as a CEO of uh training company in a sense like what are the keys to be successful? Well, one the you the person who is the head, you know, the head the head and the heart must infuse the people around them with a vision and the people that are involved must be able to feel and articulate that vision so that that everyone around us is not they don't have a job. They're not just working for money. They're actually working for something that's bigger than themselves. Mhm. So when you have that kind of environment that that's anywhere from the ministers, the board of trustees, the staff, everyone has to be in alignment with with that with that vision. And then uh the best practices of business can now be implemented. And then we become aware as we're expanding our awareness that you know we don't have any corporate sponsors. We don't have any, you know, we're aware that everything is fueled and funded by by human beings all around the world. We're in 189 countries, you know, on on on online. And so we create a space for people to actually donate, you know, so that we can we can we can sustain, we can be here, but there must be a vision. The vision must be articulated. That's why when you came to the service, every service there is a reciting of the purpose statement along with the affirmation of the day. But every Sunday we always read our purpose, why we exist. This is why we exist. And it doesn't have anything about making money. It's just about why we exist as a spiritual community. And so once we're in alignment with the vision, then what happens is we're guided to do the right thing at the right time. And if we stay out of anxiousness because there's been tough times in 39 years there's been tough times you know 2008 you know the the donations dropped people you know were unemployed um uh during uh the beginning of the pandemic donations dropped then they rose again you now we're going through another situation where people are nervous and donations are are kind of low. So we we hold this space that we're going to we made a like for instance in during co we made a commitment as a board of trustees that we would not let one employee go uh based on finances and then in that space there was a a flow of finances that came in. Wow. So the articulation of vision staying strong to that and then also uh right business decisions you know I have I have uh people on my board of trustees that you know I have one person who's a finance guy or he just came on another person that's really strong in leadership another individual that's was a great attorney still is another person that's a minister high consciousness another person that's a practitioner high consciousness and so we have this variation of themes Everybody bringing their gifts and we try to come into coherence about the next step. But it's it is I'm not going to sugarcoat it. It's it is challenging. Yes, it is challenging. After year I have over 30 40 employees. It's challenging and it is my job to not um get caught in lack even when there is a apparent lower giving. I if I do that we're sunk. M if I do that inside you understand. Yes. Yeah. And uh I thought uh you are your sponsor your boss is uh uh God. So I thought your job is a little easier but I guess you have to still work hard but but but God has to work through people. So true. I mean I mean you know we have skills and gifts you know that that may be God-given. Uhhuh. But the individuals have to hone those gifts. A person may have a proclivity to pay the play the piano, but that person has to practice. That's so true. Until until music comes out. So yeah, our our our boss is God, but God has to operate through people's generosity, their compassion, their service ethic to become volunteers, you know. Yes. So you can't, you know, we don't believe in a guy in the sky god. Mhm. We believe that there's a presence that's everywhere, but it operates through us. That's why we Thank you. Thank you so much. You know, uh like before I had this impression that uh uh since you are the, you know, star of uh secret. So like Michael, if you just if you pray, God send me $100,000 in my bank account. Boom. Thank you, God. Well, we we've had blessings like that. Don't get me wrong. I mean we do hold the vision, articulate it, see it. This is what we need and we watch it manifest. Absolutely. You know, but but it's not it's not one and done. It's a continual flow because it's circulation. So the circulation comes in comes in and then that circulation becomes staff. The circulation becomes technology. That circulation becomes the building in the office space. That circulation becomes all the things we're doing. So, it's a constant circulation. But I am holding since you brought it up, I am holding for a great um donor or a set of donors to absolutely endow the community so that we are not uh fundraising anymore. you know, a big endowment that allows us to become more creative in our service rather than ha spending a lot of time to um fund raise, you know. So, since you said that, that's what we're holding straight from God through the people whose hearts are being touched. So, beautiful. How can we support you and your uh organization Agape International? Well, I would say uh one, you know, you can tune the people can tune in to Agape. They can go to our YouTube channel or they can go to our Facebook page or they can go to our website at agapeive.com and actually watch the services. Whatever time zone you're in, you know, if it's too late or too early for anybody, what they can just watch it. It's right there. Then support however they're guided to support. They can also tune in to my podcast. My podcast is called Take Back Your Mind and I have guests on there every week that I believe have embodied certain principles and I had you on there and you know was Yeah. Thank you so much. People were very enthused about Ken Honda and um they can go to my website michaelbeckwith.com and see where I'm speaking, see where I'm traveling. They they if they do that if they go to the agape website they'll see the university and classes that are being offered and they can sign up for a class and it's not only but it's mainly supporting the person who's signing up because the classes are very transformational even though there's a circulation of fee the fee what a person gives is more than what they pay in terms of the classes. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So uh I want to ask you uh rather uh personal questions because I'm in a situation that I want to be generous. I want to uh be of help for other people but I have certain limit in terms of time and energy. Uh but you seem to handle it so beautifully. Uh you are demanded uh as a speaker as also uh a lot of people who want to even chat with you for two seconds. How do you cope with that demand so high and also you keep your energy and personal space? Well, I think it's a an ongoing uh balancing act so to speak. Like um first of all, when I wake up in the morning, I become very grateful that I'm alive. Just grateful that life is flowing through me. And then I surrender to life. You can call life God. You can call life love and tell. surrender and then I open myself up and ask for the energy to handle anything that comes into my space today. Whatever assignments show up, some of those assignments are on my calendar already. I have I have a 4:00 um beautiful meeting with with Kin Honda today. I had an earlier meeting with somebody else and you know and then the things that come in that weren't on my calendar before, you know, somebody's in the hospital, somebody you know. So I have structures that uh people that work with me that help navigate that. So I have other practitioners and other ministers as well that deal with the pastoral care aspect that deal with the prayer aspect. So I can't do everything for thousands of people. People that I have trained that are activated spiritually that can fill in those gaps. You see? And so what I'm learning to do is and I've never been I haven't been too good at this. I'm learning is to factor in more rest because I do have a boundless energy. You know what I mean? I I meditate. I hydrate. I take what I believe to be proper supplementation. I have my own green drink, you know, that that that people buy from around the world and certain supplements. So, but I but I probably need a little bit more physical rest. I'm starting to even calendar that in, you know, because back years ago, I used to take a nap every afternoon in my office, but I I've lost that habit, you know, so I have to kind of get back to that a little bit. But it's definitely an ongoing challenge because so many people want to talk to me, be with me, have a meeting with me, that type of thing. And I just I have staff and we just kind of maneuver to see, you know, sometimes I'll meet with people because I know they make a big impact in the world. I know if I meet with them, they're going to touch a thousand people. they're going to touch 10,000 people, you know. So, it's not that I just meet with celebrities or anything like that, but if somebody's authentic and they're touching a lot of people, then I'll sit with them, but but I'll sit with Ily sit with anybody if I have the time. Wow. Yeah. So, I feel extra honored to be able to have a chat with you. But through this uh summit, we're impacting 50,000 to 100,000 people. And also we're going to put subtitles in Japanese. So this would be a great prep for us to invite uh you over to the Japan trip. I don't know how many days uh you're allowed uh to spend with us, but I'm thinking of doing one big event in Tokyo and also in Kyoto. So after the event or before you can do a fun fun trip and you know it'll be at least two weeks at least. Wow. Great. We'll put it on the calendar and make sure nothing gets in there, you know. Great. And also uh international guests are welcome um to um visit with Johto with Rebel Beckworth will be such a fun place and extra like a topping extra topic in my mind. So yeah, I I'll invite my congregation whoever wants to go. Let's go. Yeah, that'll be so fun. So okay so go back to this uh topic of how to find uh everyday uh abundance or wealth for regular people. So a lot of people feel they're stuck in the job day job and they want to do something creative with their gift. You know we all we all feeling that something is inside us like for me 23 years ago I got this vision to write but I didn't have the nerve to start writing. So for those people, do you uh have any kind words for um to to encourage them to keep going? Well, I think we have to remember like you did that as the old saying goes, a journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. And so if individuals have a vision, they don't have to do it all at one time. All they have to do is take baby steps every day. little and some of those steps can be symbolic. But what happens is your subconscious mind begins to support you in taking those steps. You develop new habits and you begin to see yourself as an individual that is walking in the direction of your prayer or your vision and your goal. You're not waiting for something to happen. You're actually taking a step. And then what happens is u momentum after you do it for a while, momentum takes over from inertia. And then you're a then you start to become pulled by your vision. In the beginning you're I I often say that you know you're pushed by pain until you're pulled by a vision. And so once you you you begin to articulate the vision by asking the right questions you know um you know what is it that's trying to emerge? What gift am I to give? What's my next step? And you get you start to write that down and articulate it. And then you take little baby steps. You know, let me call so and so. Maybe they could help me. What resources do I have? You know, what do what what part of my life do I need to uh hone? I I need to perfect in order to be the person I need to be for the birth of this vision. You start walking in that direction. And then the next thing you know, your identity shifts from a a fear-based procrastinator to an individual that's walking in the direction. And here's the deal. After a while, see, many people are afraid to move, to do something because they're afraid of failure. And they correspond su success, the outcome with let me see how I can put it this way. They don't they don't quite realize that to go for it is the success. Whether it is successful or not, that's not the success. The success is did you go for it? You see, because when you pass over, you're going to look back at all the things you didn't try because you were afraid that you weren't going to be successful. And so, it's better to to walk in the direction because as you're walking in that direction, things are going to change. your your your your articul articulation of your vision will change and you'll end up seeing oh what I thought I really wanted was a but I see it's really like A1 is a it's you know it changes but it can't you can't become clear unless you're walking in the direction of it. Does that make sense? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So you have to not not attach your self-worth success of what you're doing. Your self-worth comes from I'm going for it. Yes. Thank you. I I I feel like a very gentle push but yet very strong. So I'm sure you out of this uh interview thousands of people will start writing, will start singing, will start doing more coaching and whatever that passion they have. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. So I'm just I'm getting close to the end of this uh interview but I still I want to ask you a few things. So uh some people say we are born with a a certain faith that is like we born into a wealthy family or not or we we don't have the right gift or the right physical feature and some people uh work so hard so get over from the fate and then choose their destiny. Do you think we are predestined or uh we can just create our own destiny? You know Carl Young had a very powerful statement. It goes it says something like you know when you don't clear up your your unconscious traumas and things like that it shows up in your life as life as fate but destiny is something else. Everyone has a great destiny and your destiny is determined uh by your character. your character is determined by your attitude. So if you shift your attitude and your character will change and then your destiny will unfold. But if you um try to try to create the excuse, oh I I was born short, I can't be a basketball player or you know whatever I was born in this kind of family. I was born in you know and if you you you identify yourself like that then fake plays out. But if you begin to go to your origin, the origin is you're shot from the source of all creation. You see, and you chose to be in the condition that you're in. You chose your parents. You chose the environment. You chose where you were born. That's just the starting. It's not the end, you know. That's the starting ground for you to hone your skills, develop your mind, develop your focus, and to move forward. So it used to be a very superstitious thought years ago that a person was born in a cast system. They were untouchable. They you know their their race determined you know that's all superstition. So many people have broken free from that when they were able to um become undomemesticated in their mind. You see so we don't want people to get caught in superstition. Well I was born in this way so therefore I can never. No that's that's the misuse of the understanding of karma. Yes, karma is um can only determine starting places. It can't determine it cannot determine uh ending. Karma determines what you start with. What unfolds is your attitude, your character and your destiny. So you can be born poor. Many people born poor. Many people born born in in poverty. Many people are born you know under the oppression of racism. You see, but that's a starting point. But then as you change your mind and begin to focus differently, that just becomes a part of your hero's journey. It becomes a part of, you know, the horse you rolled in on, but it's not your identity. Uhhuh. Wow. Thank you. Thank you for that. It's just sitting in very deep inside me. Okay. So this would be probably the last question about manifestation. Yes. So of course people know you from secret uh the movie secret and all the other u films and uh books. So what are the keys to manifest your re your great life? Because some people are driven to they try to manifest all the material goes out of ego but what would be the fun or ideal manifestation in your eyes? Yeah. Well, there's two levels. In the beginning, there's the manifestation level is visualization combined with um a deep feeling that you already have it, that which you're visualizing. And that prompts you to to monitor your conversation. Your words are boomerangs, meaning whatever words you say is going to boomerang back at you. So you learn how to um watch your your your your your what comes out of your mouth. You watch what's in your mind. You visualize it and you hold the the feeling tone of the space into something manifest. That's beginning. The next stage is more of the visioning. And maybe I'll teach that when I come to Japanese, we come to Japan next year. And that is visioning is the beginning. That was the secret. And it's good. You you don't want to transcend what you haven't mastered. But the next level is coming to a realization that there's something within you already that you've it's already within your soul and you have to begin to ask what is it within me that wants to express that has nothing to do with governments, religions, parental fantasies, where you were born. There's something directly from your soul that wants to express itself as to how you will make a contribution on this planet, a gift, a talent, a business, whatever. It has nothing to do with anyone else. Many people don't get to that because they look at the world and they want the money, they want a bunch of cars, they want the house. So they get stuck in becoming addicted to using the law of manifestation to get things but they're not unfolding their soul. And so visioning basically takes you into the space where you begin to ask certain questions from a meditative state in which you get to um recalibrate your spiritual uh faculties. So you can hear the guidance and you can see the vision of your soul, not just what you think you want based upon something that society says, well, if you have this, you'll be happy, you know, because society just wants to turn people into consumers rather than creators. You see, and they want to turn um, you know, very powerful people into followers. And no, we're here to be creators. And so, so if you want to learn how to manifest, yeah, hone your visualization skills. Remember, everything you say is a boomerang. Only speak about what you want to bring into manifestation. Don't even talk bad about other people because it's going to come back on you. Don't gossip, you know. Don't talk bad about other people. You keep your conversation in heaven. M and then you move to the next level of asking what is it that's within me that wants to come forward independent of human consciousness and you'll start to be guided by your soul and you'll activate your soul faculty and you will be prosperous, you will be safe, you will be healthy, but you won't be addicted to getting a bunch of stuff that you don't need. Wow. Thank you so much. I feel I'm speechless. Thank you. Thank you for sharing your wisdom in such a very open and generous way. I so respect you and admire you for who you are and you have been my hero and you you will be my hero for the rest of my life. So, thank you so much. Well, brother Ken, I love you so much and I appreciate the good works that you have distributed to the world. I embrace you in the same way. I I hold you very highly, speak of you highly, and turn people on to your work. And um God bless you for being you. Thank you so much. So, we're going to um end this interview. Wow, what a way to close the final day of the Happy Wealth Summit with the soul stirring wisdom of Michael Beckwith. Thank you Dr. Michael Beckwith for spending your time with us because you again reminded us that purpose isn't something that you chase. It's something that you allow. is something that would seep into your very being and comes out as an expression so that your true wealth will flow when you stop performing and start aligning because you are the source. You are the shift and you're the gift that the world has been waiting for. So I'm very curious everyone, what is one thing that spoke to you when you were listening to Dr. Michael Beckwood's talk just now? What is something that is resonating deeply with you? Whatever that feeling may be, however strong it may be, just trust that it is the right thing for you. Can you share in the chat right now what spoke to you? What came up and ignited for you because the world is ready. And speaking of ready, you did it. You were ready 4 days ago in the beginning of the summit and now you are finally here. You have been with us all the way and I want to thank you for showing up, for choosing your future, for choosing to invest in the next level of yourself and that is on you. Four powerful days, over 20 speakers and a global community gathering together to redefine what true wealth feels for them. And so I want to thank you for inspiring us as well to keep doing this kind of work knowing that you are someone who takes action, who's ready for change, who's ready to step into the fullest expression of yourself. We went from intuition to manifestation, from connection to purpose, and you have walked a full circle journey quite frankly. 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