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Exploring the Van der Linde Gang's Lore

Red Dead Redemption is a universe with endless law around every turn there's something new to discover or just simply overhear or read and with the bulk of that coming from Red Dead Redemption 2 the game that focuses on the dying days of the velind gang I thought it would make for a meaty video to explore all of that law that surrounds the gang now this is not a topic I haven't explored in the past I did a video on the rise of the Vandal in G that covered the broad strokes but come on it's only 15 minutes long and there are plenty of instances in my content where this law intersects and I also did a minseries exploring the origins of various members of the gang a series I was never going to be able to keep up because some members have more law than others and then I simply thought to myself one night why don't I just compile those ideas into one and create a video on the complete law of the vanderin gang now this video Promises to be quite the meaty boy so I've had to work on it between other projects but hopefully if anything that enhances the quality but on that subject I suppose you'll have to be the final judge now this video will compile everything I can find up until the events where we meet the gang chronologically for the first time in 1899 with a bit of leeway to accommodate the stragglers that came in just after the beginning of Red Dead Redemption 2 so please enjoy the complete law of the velind Gang [Music] the vanderin gang began with two key characters the first of whom is obviously Dutch velind Dutch was born nearby to Philadelphia presumably within the state of Pennsylvania though that specifically is never clarified in the year 1855 to a mother of English Heritage named Greta and an unnamed father of Dutch Heritage during the American Civil War his father fought and died for the union falling in battle in Pennsylvania instilling a grudge against the southern folk in the young velind and also presumably leaving him without a male role model to look up to Dutch would prove himself to be an unruly child one who seldom got along with his own mother resulting in him running away at the age of 15 presumably around the year 1870 embarking on a life of crime fueled by ideals of freedom and liberty whatever the cost ideals he inv ised The Outlaw lifestyle would Grant him his ideology shielded him from believing he was a simple Thief instead opting to believe his actions served a higher purpose those values in turn likely fueled his drive for knowledge as with intelligence comes the ability to rationalize one's actions and justify them within the confines of a pre-established ideology but more importantly with regards to this video anyway his openness to learning and ability to think granted him the all important shrewdness required to survive the outlaw lifestyle a trait that no doubt came in handy when in the mid 1870s a chance encounter with a con artist wouldn't necessarily change the course of his life but certainly shifted it laterally as that particular grifter was a man named Hosea Matthews apparently Hosea was born sometime around the year 1844 claiming to have been raised in the mountains according to his own account his father was a sinful character who despite living until the rip old age of 75 years only really saw Hosea very occasionally I only saw him three months in my entire life and my god did I love that man never met a finer I know way initially Hosea found himself as a stage actor with aspirations to become a comedian and clearly that didn't work work out however his acting skills were clearly transferable to conning people in The Outlaw Way of Life resorting to a life of crime a life that was almost cut short when he was caught stealing a chicken and as a punishment was to be hanged however due to the harshness of the punishment a riot broke out in the crowd who believed the Judgment was unfair allowing him to escape his own execution unharmed albeit with a sore neck and this isn't the only time his thieving impulses would bring him close to meeting his maker come the mid 1870s Hosea had grown into a confident con man and it's around this time that he would first encounter Dutch vanderlind you know how we [Applause] met pair of huers trying to rob each other by fire just like this on the road to Chicago back in when was it 78 or thereabouts woo more than 20 years we ain't dead yet not quite oh Dutch was something special back then I guess he's something special now I thought I could con the paint off a wall but he was good he was good i' spun him this yarn about a mile long about my daddy the Ambassador and would he helped me find my way back to Paris France when all of a sudden I looked and my money and my gun had disappeared we laughed and said we'd face the future together impressed with one another's guile and Gul Dutch velind and josea Matthews forged a lifelong friendship one that would naturally see them get up to yet more Shenanigans for instance in March of 1877 Dutch velind and josea Matthews made off from prison in ketering Ohio posing as International Merchants they duped 12 local men and a woman out of approximately $300 of shares in a fictitious Portuguese Shipping Company making off leaving the sheriff tied up in their jail cell interestingly historically ketering Ohio wasn't known as ketering until 1952 before then it was Van buan Township the city would take its name from inventor Charles F ketering who wasn't born until 1914 so this article is really strange furthermore suggesting that Dutch and josea met each other at least a year before when josea said his 78 or thereabouts clearly isn't the case but you get the point if you can't remember the year you first met somebody you've known them a bloody long time also 1877 would be the year Dutch and Hosea encounter a street orphan by the name of Arthur Morgan born around 1863 to beatric and ly Morgan in the northern United States Arthur would lose his mother at a young age due to known causes and by that I mean he never tells us why he had a strained relationship with his father Lyle who would be arrested for Laron in 1874 Arthur would later witness his death and kept his old man's hat as a momento following a chance encounter with Dutch Vander Lind and josea Matthews around the year 1877 the pair would take the young boy under their wing they'd teach him how to read write fight shoot ride and hunt and Dutch would instill his own world View and philosophy in the young man Arthur in turn would come to view Dutch and Hosea as a pair of father-like figures around a similar time Dutch would become romantically invested in a lady named Susan Grimshaw with the old guard in place the velind gang was well and truly forming as unclear quite when but at some point in the early years of the gang Arthur had a dog named copper an animal he cared deeply for despite being largely unable to control him at some point in the early days of the game Hosea Matthews was married to a woman named Bessie with whom he took off and tried to leave the outlaw life behind him however Hosea couldn't stay away for long despite this Bessie remained by his side at some point around this time Dutch would cease his relationship with Susan Grimshaw beginning a new relationship with a woman named Annabelle at some point during the 1880s Dutch velind would first meet the infamous Outlaw and later enemy of his col mod Driscoll pronounced colum however he pronounces it Colm so yeah the pair had an uneasy relationship with Dutch disliking how O'Driscoll treated his men in return O'Driscoll would mock him for his philosophy the notion of making a better world was lost on him but more on that a bit later on in these early days the vanderin gang had something of a Robin Hood approach to the outlaw life stealing from the rich and giving to the poor redistributing some wealth to those those who needed it most whilst taking a cut for themselves at this point they mostly stuck to smaller robberies and scams but they were trying to make a difference by helping those in need Dutch would even scold Arthur one time for robbing a poor man the gang's next recruit would come in 1885 when Dutch happened upon a group of Illinois homesteaders attempting to hang a 12-year-old boy that boy was named John maren John was born in 1873 as he put it his father was a Scottish immigrant who was born on the boat to New York as for his mother she was a prostitute but she died during John's birth initially johon would be raised by his father a Man Who Loved Scotland always speaking about it yet never having been there himself around when John was 8 years old his father was injured in a bar fight and died shortly after rendering the young M an orphan he would be sent to an orphanage however at the age of 11 he decided to run away and though he was a child that would not stop him from committing his first murder though he would claim this killing was not his fault his luck on his own would quickly dry up as he was caught at the age of 12 attempting to steal from homesteaders in Illinois but before he could be lynched Dutch vanderin stepped in and rescued him as his next Protegé Dutch taught Jon how to read write hunt and of course fight and shoot equipping him for the outlaw lifestyle to follow he and Arthur Morgan would become close like brothers and are often regarded as Dutch's favorite Sons reading them books by Evelyn Miller and Waldo Emerson and though the concepts of the philosophers were lost on the boys Dutch successfully instilled his derivative worldview The View that America was designed to produce apathy in people and revenge was a foal's game and one should never kill In Cold Blood but above everything he preached loyalty at some point a younger Arthur Morgan would fall in love with a woman named Mary Gillis whose family disapproved of Arthur due to his Outlaw lifestyle resulting in their relationship crumbling the vanderin gang would carry out their first major bank robbery in 1887 at 2:00 on the 15th of April Dutch Hosea and Arthur would burst into the bank of Leon hoit in an unnamed town and made off with approximately $5,000 in Gold after the heist it said they lingered in town traveling to HS and shanties and even an orphanage distributing some of the money they'd stolen to the poor it's around this time if not a bit earlier that Dutch became a wanted man with a price on his head as by 1899 he claims there's been one for 13 years at some point around this time the vanderin gang's relationship with the OD driscolls deteriorated with Dutch killing o'driscoll's brother who in retaliation murdered Dutch's lover Annabelle sparking a blood feud between the two gangs that would never die a hatred that would see the two outlaw factions come to blows many times more now it's worth noting that at some time following this point the gang became misaligned with the Robin Hood ideals as Dutch became further disillusioned with the world due to its modernization and the laws that came with it as a result the acts of Charity helping the poor and all of that faded into memory even going as far as allowing Leopold Strauss to join the gang setting up a lone sharking business Austrian born Leopold Strauss was sent to the United States with his uncle at 17 years years old arriving in New York City in 1863 immediately after arriving his uncle suffered a fatal heart attack resulting in him having to fend for himself turning to swindling he was eventually inducted into the Vander Lind gang becoming something of a bookkeeper and accountant eventually establishing a lone sharking business that prayed on the very same people the gang's philosophy was originally in place to protect it is unclear when Strauss exactly joined the gang but we are at a point in today's video where chronology by and large is about to go thoroughly out the window following the first big bank robbery in 1887 the veling gang traveled all across the frontier picking up new members and stragglers as they went we'll get into the ones that are likely out of order in a minute but first and foremost let's talk about Bill Williamson Maran Williamson was born in 1866 embarrassed by his forame which he claims to be a family name he adopted the nickname Bill he described his father as an alcoholic who lost his mind in a bottle and from a young age Bill found himself amassing quite the criminal record at some point he attempted to get his life in order joining the Army being assigned to the 15th infantry where he fought against Native Americans however in 1892 he would be dishonorably discharged for deviancy and attempted murder after a year on the streets a chance encounter with Dutch vanderlind in 18 1993 would change his life I I tried to Rob him I mean I I was I was just out of the army and I I was drinking like a fish and uh I I I was still sticking up folk on the highway just uh out west of the mountains and and and Dutch got one look at me I was just I was just drunk and I was angry and and he just burst out laughing and I was so mad I swear I could have put a slug in him but he uh he sheared me up and he gave me purpose and with Bill the gang gained a loyal gun and then at some point prior to 1894 the gang would pick up a character known only as Uncle a la freeloader whose true name is unknown arguably one of the most mysterious members of the vanderin gang on account of the fact that nothing is truly known about him when telling stories around the campfire it's implied he's a bit of an unreliable narrator and his introduction to the gang is shrouded in about as much mystery he just kind of showed up one day nonetheless his endearing personality allowed him to stick around despite his role within the gang being that of an unproductive mouth to feed but apparently he was born in Ohio at some point prior to 1849 where he had an uncle named Jeb who he described as the kind of man you wouldn't want to be left alone with apparently his parents passed away when he was only 9 years old forcing him to move to a new city a new place and live simply on his wits where he became a petty Criminal he also claims to have been married at least twice despite being a lazy layabout he did prove to have some value to the gang not just as a keen Storyteller he was in fact capable of rising to the occasion should the situation demand it accompanying Arthur Morgan and Bill Williamson on a bank robbery near the Canadian border where he served as a lookout albeit not very well according to Arthur he also introduced The Gang to Abigail Roberts born in 1877 and and somehow knowing Uncle she was introduced to the gang in 1894 aged 17 years at which point she was already a prostitute she would have relations with various members of the gang before ultimately falling for John maren much to her own behest I'm sure in the year 1895 Dutch velind would happen upon the young Mexican Exile Javier squa born in New Avo pero Mexico in an undisclosed year to a drunken laborer father he would witness his uncle and four other men be castrated and fed to pigs due to suggesting villagers demand of fair wage he became a notorious Bounty Hunter and something of a revolutionary fighting against his perception of a corrupt system within Mexico a war path that led to him killing a former powerful military man fearing that those he held closest to him would suffer if he remained within the country he fled to the United States in this country I spoke no English was afraid I had nothing except for my fear for I left in a rush I was starving feeble and alone I thought I would die crossing the desert I thought I would get here and be sent back I thought I would be killed here instead I was simply starving because nobody cared then I met Dutch I was stealing chickens and he uh I met him doing the same and we laughed he took me in and he fed me and he clothed me and I met all of you Javier more or less immediately slaughtered into the game G's ideology idolizing Dutch as a fellow revolutionary Javier would become a gun fiercely loyal to Dutch's cause and with that it's now time to tackle the members for whom it's unclear which order they actually arrived let's begin with Simon Pearson Pearson was born to a family of Whalers and though he aspired to follow in his ancestors footsteps the whaling industry was on the decline instead he found himself serving as a sailor in the US Navy a time in his life he reminisces fondly counting an event in which he was stranded at sea for 50 days upon his return to dry land however he found himself in financial trouble heavily in debt to lone sharks he would be rescued by the velind gang becoming the gang's Butcher and cook where he developed friendships for many of the gang members especially Hosea Matthews not much is known about Karen Jones life before the gang or even much about how and when she joined however she has the background of a scam artist and Trigger woman with a love for the outlaw lifestyle and no intents to change it notably at some point between 1895 and 1897 she aided Arthur and Javier in a bank robbery in Tucson Arizona posing as a nun she managed to hide Firearms under her clothes and that's all that's really known about that Orville Swanson was a former clergyman who gradually found himself losing his job family and his beliefs as a result of his sinful Indulgence in Earthly Pleasures for instance he's partial to a bit of booze at some point he was married to a woman named Margaret however as it turns out she was already married rendering Swanson party to bigamy the law caught up with us in San Francisco she jumped aboard a ship and sailed to Shanghai I believe suppose I still am married in a way but it hasn't been terribly fulfilling under unclear circumstances at an unknown time Swanson would save Dutch Vin's life resulting in Dutch out of gratitude allow Swanson to stay with the velind gang Josiah trone is a strange one he was born in Cornwall England though he claims to have no memory of it immigrating to the United States likely as a child trone grew up to be a con man becoming an associate stroke member of the vanderin gang some years prior to 1899 though loyal in his own way his relationship with the vanderin gang is best described as an affair disappearing from the gang for months on end but always coming back this is likely due to the fact he leads a double life with a family a wife and two children named Cornelius and tarquin who live in the city of s Deni and seem ignorant to the criminal nature of his schemes in turn the gang appear to be ignorant to the existence of his family though he considers the velind gang his friends he's cunning and always looking out for himself first and foremost and in return doesn't appear to be the most trusted member Mack and Davey Kender are members of the gang we never see that supposedly joined the gang at some point prior to 1898 the brothers are described as rather wild and violent men who served as competent guns in the vanderland gang to Define them apparently Davey was an avid Drinker and poker player and according to Bill Williamson Mack was a heartless son of a [ __ ] but he had a heart implying that though he was ruthless and according to josea Matthews had a hair trigger temper was also capable in his own way of being kind Mary Beth gasal joined the gang at some point prior to the year 1899 at an undisclosed time following getting into trouble stealing watches and wallets from several men the vanderin gang saved her while she was being chased by her pickpocketing victims thereafter joining the gang where her genuine kind good nature combined with her ability as a thief made her a true asset to the organization now before we continue with that list let's break it down by talking about some of the key events that occurred during this time of growth chiefly John maren and Abigail Roberts would have a son named Jack in 1895 with Jack maren being born into the gang its members became his family viewing the bulk of his Elders as aunts and uncles in return the adults of the gang shielded him from the darker nature of the outlaw life Jon however struggled with the birth of his son feeling unable to connect with the infant Jack and fearing he be unable to raise him JN would disappear from the gang in 1896 before returning a year later and though mostly welcomed back with open arms Arthur Morgan still felt betrayed by John for ditching the gang it's also worth noting at some point possibly even before all of this Hosea Matthew's wife Bessie passed away and according to Hosea following this he spent an entire year drunk anyway back to the stragglers list as it were the next one to discuss doesn't really have a name however at some point there was a rat in cap this unnamed traitor was caught and killed in the gang's camp and that's all we really know Tilly Jackson had been an outlaw from the age of 12 running with the foreman Brothers gang after being abducted by them she eventually escaped after killing Anthony Foreman's cousin Malcolm slitting his throat however when she returned to her home where she expected her mother to be she learned she passed away she would later be in trouble and Dutch van the lind happens to pass by Dutch took Tilly under his wing and taught her how to read as a result of this occurrence she became a member of the gang at some point after the traitor incident Shawn Maguire was an Irish born son of an outlaw named darra Maguire who fled to America with his son before being hunted down in the states and killed leaving the young sha alone he was sent to a reform school but it did very little for him and then one night in North Elizabeth he encountered Dutch velind and Jose Matthews I tried to kill Dutch first time I met him yall hear that story right Sean Maguire attempted to rob a fancy pocket watch off of Dutch and Hosea who simply laughed having seen him coming a mile away they' sneakily removed the bullets from his gun after being amused by Sha's audacity and overconfidence they allowed him to join the gang and then there was Molly OA a woman from a wealthy family in Dublin Ireland who came to the United States in search of Adventure and romance it's unclear how she came to join the vanderin gang however at some point prior to the year 1899 she became Dutch Vandal Lin's lover in inverted commas of course by 1898 the vanderin gang had arrived in Montana at this point Arthur's dog Copper was still alive as he's fondly remembered for eating all the fish that Hosea had caught however at some point after this he did pass away it's unknown as to whether or not his cause of death was a fish overdose following some trouble and a fire in the north the gang began to travel South passing through the Grizzlies to avoid being tracked it's here where the gang spent the winter in the western foothills of the mountains where according to Arthur Morgan's Journal food was plentiful and life was good while up this way Dutch picked up a lead on some land that he intended to buy somewhere the gang could settle and establish a society based on their ideals however Dutch did not commit to the purchase as Arthur speculates it either didn't match his criteria or something spooked him and thus the gang continued to travel picking up yet more members Lenny Summers was born around the year 1880 to two former slave parents Lenny's father was an educated man who could both read and write instilling those fundamental skills in his son however one night a few drunk men would beat Mr Summers to death and Lenny would kill them in an act of retaliation rendering him an outlaw at the young age of 15 years encountering and joining the velind gang in the Grizzlies in late 1898 for some reason Hosea Matthews was cautious of allowing Lenny Summers to join the gang to begin with however the pair began to mutually respect one another even becoming friends and then came Charles Smith the son of an African-American father and Native American mother he he claims to have lived with his father at his mother's tribe until the US Army drove them away his mother was captured and taken away never to be seen again driving his father into a deep depression and the alcoholism that came with it at the age of just 13 years he ran away choosing to survive on his own in this time he fell in with several gangs however he never quite felt as though he belonged that was at least until he met and joined the velind gang where his survival abilities General decency across the board competence and extreme deadliness made him an asset one made loyal to the velin gang because he was taken a back by how fairly Dutch treated him a trait he'd found to be rare due to his ethnicity then there's the Unseen character of Jenny Kirk who the gang had found abandoned at the roadside between 1898 and early 1899 Hosea Matthews described her as having a spark and apparently she became close friends with Javier squa also Lenny Summers veloped something of an attraction towards her which he never got a chance to act upon also at some point in 1898 Dutch was looking to sell some stolen gold however in the process of doing so he accidentally aggravated the locals of crr Shaw Hills resulting in the deal going south and a bar fight that almost cost him his life however in a stroke of luck he was rescued by an outlaw named Micah Bell mic Bell III was born around the year 1860 to ruthless Outlaw m Bel Jr to embark on his Outlaw career he ran with his father and by the age of 17 he and his father were wanted for the brutal double homicide of Rosco and Jean bricks whose throats they had slit and bodies they'd hanged from the rafters of their own haban it's also believ for a time he ran with his brother Amos Bell crime was a family business to the Bell ends however by 1899 evidence suggests Micah's brother went straight living in California with his wife wife and daughters demanding mic never attempt to contact him and if he did Amos would kill him he also knew other Outlaws cleton Joe who had temporarily join the vanderin gang over the course of the main story of the game and he was involved in a failed bank robbery down south with an individual named Norman who went by the nickname of skinny after saving Dutch's life and being inducted into the gang he was respected for his experience and combat abilities however he was generally disliked for his confrontational antagonistic argumentative personality though often at odds with other gang members for his Reckless hot-headedness Dutch took a liking to him an error in judgment he would live to [Music] regret now before we crack on to you know what there are a couple of events that I've failed to slot into the chronology for instance that of Arthur Morgan's son following an encounter with a young woman named Eliza Arthur learned that she became pregnant and offered to help in any way he could despite his Outlaw lifestyle upon the boy's birth he was named Isaac and Arthur would attempt to occasionally stop by every few months staying with them for days at a time providing support however he could he remembers his son as being a good kid However unfortunately one day when attempting to visit the pair he simply found two graves in the ground outside he eventually learned that his son and his son's mother had been murdered by Outlaws who only managed to obtain $10 for doing so this event hardened Arthur to the reality of his own lifestyle being an outlaw himself he came to believe he was a bad man and therefore he could not have nice things happen to him the other event I can't really slot in is the death of Greta vanderin Dutch's mother and though she passed away in 1881 Dutch only discovered years later through an uncle of is so it's unclear when he actually learned this and therefore unclear when it became relevant to well the topic of this video if indeed it ever did anyway with those two events encompassed to the best of my ability let's crack on by the dawn of 1899 the gang had arrived in the state of West Elizabeth setting up camp outside the developing town of Blackwater it's here where they went about their ordinary routine of going about finding leads for jobs to pull Arthur and josea had found the lead on a profitable scam however Micah Bell came to Dutch with a much more risky scheme in mind robbing a ferry that just so happened to be loaded with money despite protests from josea and Arthur Dutch decided it would be worth the risk so they planned the heist even going as far as scouting potential safe spots in new Austin to fall back on but when it came to enacting their plan the ferry Heist didn't go well at all once they' successfully picked up the money on the river they were instantly swarmed by Pinkerton agents and local law enforcement resulting in a massacre Dutch Vander Lind would kill an innocent girl in the process and the Gang would sustain heavy casualties Matt cender was killed daav kalender was mortally wounded Jenny Kirk would also die and John maren would be shot although he'd only suffered a flesh wound beyond that presumably Arthur Morgan's horse bodia would also be killed at this point Shawn Maguire would be left behind managing to escape black uninjured however he would be captured by bounty hunters the gang would be forced to flee without the $150,000 they'd stolen in the opposite direction to their intended destination up into the freezing cold mountains where they hoped a blizzard would allow them to shake their pursuers which is where we meet the gang at the beginning of Red Dead Redemption 2 confused frightened and low on supplies we joined the gang as they struggled to come to terms with the events that just transpired while also desperate for shelter and supplies I don't wish to cover the entire game of Red Dead Redemption 2 because that's something you can experience rather than just piece together however at this point there are two more gang members yet to join both of whom are met in chapter one of the game the first of whom is sad Adler having grown up in a harsh environment she learned to hunt and ride horses and otherwise survive in September of 1896 she married Jake Adler taking up residence on a ranch in the state of amberino it's here where she and her husband would share the work between them and despite the harsh lifestyle of living in the mountains she was happy however tragedy would strike in the form of the vanderlind gang's most bitter Rivals a short few days before the beginning of the game the house would be robbed by the odris who murdered Jake forcing sad to hide in the cellar for days until Dutch Arthur and Micah came along and killed the o'driscolls taking her back with them to the 's camp where ultimately she wound up remaining with them over time she proved herself to be a capable combatant albe it terrifying in the sense that she was unpredictable on account of her vengeful agenda and then on the other end of the spectrum we have the harmless Kieran Duffy an odris Scholl captured by the vanderin gang during the cter chapter we learn that Kieran was orphaned at a young age and the Stables he worked at would fire him shortly after he attempted to join the Army but but it didn't work out and then he fell in with some Outlaws and they wound up getting killed and then he encountered The o'driscolls Who forced him to ride with them or die due to his previous employment working at a stables he took care of the gang's horses but described himself as being the bottom of the food chain after proving himself to not be a threat to the vanderin gang he's accepted among their ranks but again retains his position as the bottom of the food chain and with that I feel as if I've more or less accomplished what I set out to do the complete law of the Vander Lind gang prior to 1899 or at least prior to the events of the game and then the straggling bits that you see at the beginning of the game but there are some details that I noticed I've missed and I'd like to go over now between the years of 1887 and 1899 the vanderin gang managed to hit approximately 36 different bank robberies in various locations around the country but Ross says that John Maron specifically robbed at least 40 banks that he's aware of and it's likely those occurred during his time with the gang so the number is likely higher I also forgot to mention the time Arthur bought three fish from the market and claimed to have caught them himself and the Gang feasted and toasted in his name because he caught the fish when in reality he hadn't but that's not an important detail after all is it but it's still law so it needed to be mentioned and I'm sure there are other smaller details that I have missed so you'll notice the word complete in the title has inverted commas Around It Anyway the vanderin gang is a complex Beast filled with personalities and family Dynamics and though as time went along the philosophy that held it together slowly faded and by 1899 the gang was on the decline it certainly was in its Heyday more than just a mere criminal organization it was a family of society's UNF finest one that makes you sad when you realize the story of Red Dead Redemption 2 is us watching it fall apart and though that too is part of the gang's lore in theory we see it happen and so extending the video just to Encompass all of that would just make this video a cheaper way to experience Red Dead Redemption 2 and that's not what I want this video to be so I'm going to leave it here thanks for watching I really hope that you enjoyed today's video I think I did a better job on the video I did on the rise of the vanderin gang years ago and went into more depth that was there and in a few days I'm going away for a short bit but I wouldn't be satisfied that able to relax if I didn't drop something that I felt was really good before I did go whether or not I accomplished that I suppose is up to you nonetheless I suspect there are little Snippets of lore that this video could have done with that I've missed if so please let me know in the comments section regardless thank you all for watching I really hope that you've enjoyed it if you did be sure to go ahead leave a like subscribe share the Channel with your friends all that wonderful stuff I would massively appreciate it and with any luck I'll be seeing you all very soon with another video at some point but until next time please take care and goodbye [Music]