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Ryan Day and SDA Church Controversies

many Adventists are commenting about the video of Ryan Day And this photo right here may say a lot about what Ryan Day was doing in the SDA church He was living a lie He was teaching what he did not believe for many years friends For many years Now in today's video I'm going to share with you more about the story of Ryan Day But before we do that friends I would encourage you to subscribe Please subscribe to this channel Um a lot of Adventists have not subscribed to this channel So they don't get to see what is going on within the church and also outside of the church So I am encouraging you if you are watching this video right now and you have not subscribed to this channel please click or press on the subscribe button right down there and join this particular channel so that you don't miss any of the videos I publish Now let's get into it Um it was established yesterday in the video that I showed you that Ryan Day left the church He left the church because he did not believe in some of the doctrines of the church the SDA church But friends apart from that apart from that Ryan Day I think was influenced by ex Adventist who is called um Allan Davis friends That is my personal observation and this is why I was watching uh I was watching um I well I scrolled through Facebook This is where it started I was scrolling through Facebook and I saw a friend of mine who was sharing the content of another person I knew and they were sharing it kind of in a um critical way I'll just say that Well the person's content that they were sharing was a friend of mine a pastor friend of mine I don't think he would mind that I use his name and if I'm going to use his name just because he's a friend of mine and I respect him a lot and I know some of you are probably going to judge me for even sharing this connection but I don't care because I have nothing to hide and I am who I am Um but um one of my teachers at AFCO many years ago whom I loved and respected a lot still do um who made the greatest impact on me while I was at AFCO was the vice president at that time Alan Davis And um of course long story short Alan Davis eventually got to the point where he was no longer in the church for various reasons And you can go to his YouTube channel uh just just look up Allen Davis theology Allan Davis Uh uh he even he he also has a YouTube channel on health that he's done You can look those up Just type in Dr Allen Davis You'll find his YouTube channels You can find his videos where he he gives his testimony on what happened to him in the Adventist church I'm not I'm not going to go into all that But I will say the person was sharing Dr Davis's content And I hadn't seen him in years and I knew he wasn't in the church anymore but that there was you know it was interest there and I thought I wonder what's what's going on with this guy So I I watched one of his videos Now understand some of you right now are automatically going "That's the mistake you made Ryan The enemy opened an opportunity and and and you you went through that door You entertained that apostasy and that's why you're in the situation you're in." But I'll tell you actually ultimately what led me on this journey that I ultimately have been led to at this point was no outside influences It was actually Ellen White Ellen White A quote from Ellen White that appears two or three times in her writings is actually what ultimately convinced me to start digging and looking deeper into Ellen White into the some of these doctrinal teachings that I was kind of struggling with All right So that was Ryan Day and he said um he was not influenced by external factors but I don't believe that he was watching the videos of Alan Davis and he probably might have been influenced by one of his videos Reowned Alan Davis has released a video defending Ryan Day and challenging Pastor John Lomachan Friends I'm going to show you um that video right now And you know this is why I am saying that Ryan Day and Alan Davis had something to do There was a connection between both of them All right let's work this friends Hey friends Dr Alan Davis here Here is a subject I wanted to avoid uh especially as I'm taking the channel and moving forward with the whole intent of giving primal practical Christian theology However some recent events have prompted me to do this video today and I needed to be timely about it just because of the timeliness of what happened yesterday Many of you might have watched Pastor Ryan Day's video where he discussed his reasons for leaving Three Angels Broadcasting Network 3ABN and his reasons for questioning and even rejecting certain teachings of the Seventh Day Adventist Church Now I am his friend I applaud him for his courage and his willingness to stand up for the right I have known Ryan for over 12 years and I have found him to be honest sincere and a man who loves God and understands correctly salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior Now what you might not know is the there was a recent sermon preached by the pastor of the Thompsonville 7th Day Adventist Church there in Thompsonville Illinois by Pastor John Lomachang where he in effect sullied Pastor Day's character and he questioned his biblical and spiritual integrity Sadly the portion where he does so was deleted during editing not posted on their social media sites Now friends where I'm from in Texas we call this dirty pool And for this I say shame on you John Shame on you I have known Pastor Lang for over 25 years He was my pastor in Fairfield California when I was stationed there at Travis Air Force Base for three years I personally have no issues with this man whatsoever I find him to be kind and I find him to be someone who you can reason with You can actually sit down and have a good conversation However his comments regarding Pastor Day and moreover the fact he or 3ABN deleted this portion of the video is quite troubling Pastor Day has taken the time to post this nonsense on his channel for all to see And it's called Rethink Adventism And if you're so inclined please take 18 minutes out of your life to watch it And I've posted a link to that video down in the doobly-doo below Please understand friends this video is par for the course from those who realize their faith is on tenuous ground It's a preemptive strike much like the Wizard of Oz to tell the people to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain and thus demeaning Pastor Day for his decision even going so far as to give the ingracious platitudes of we love Ryan Oh come on give me a break friends We can see right through that His position was a biblical one And again I applaud him for it If the fact Pastor Day's departure wasn't a threat to their very existence and what he had to share isn't significant then don't you think they should just let it go and not address it at all If it's nothing it'll simply go away Now some of you who are astute in this area will readily recall that Galial gave the same council to the Sanhedrin concerning Peter and John Why don't they take their own advice if they are Bible only Christians So what I want to do now is just highlight a few points that Pastor Lom King makes in this video And I'm I'm going to be as brief as I can and at the same time I need to be thorough He begins by saying "Everything SDAs teach must be based upon the unairring word of God." And this is true And then he proceeds to quote Ellen White to substantiate what is clearly true And yet in my opinion he manipulate he manipulates the sheep of his congregation And it's so obvious that a blind man could see it from a mile away Circular reasoning was reasoning was in full play here It's what I call a self-licking ice cream cone Next he stated "No other church is being attacked as vehemently as the SDA church." And then he cites Revelation 12:17 to substantiate this position Now sadly Pastor Lomang here employs the gross error of confirmation bias Now over the years I have heard him on numerous occasions state how his lack of formal higher education hasn't negatively affected him Well here it has and it's clear he has no understanding of logic or the fallacies that are within it that can prevent his proper usage of logic Perhaps in using a number of hard-hitting adjectives and citing the Biblical Research Institute and some of the SDA colleges and universities he thinks he's making his point but in reality he's only making it more evident he is on shaking ground as is the church Pastor Lom King then proceeds to call those who oppose 7th Day Adventist teaching to be wolves citing Paul's writings to the Thessalonians not realizing Paul was predicting apostate Rome And this is ever the Adventist defensive posture Make yourself sound stronger by vilifying others Then he goes on to tell his sheep "Whatever you hear or read on social media regarding Pastor Day don't believe it's true Instead run to him as the pastor as well as other leaders so to receive a correct interpretation." Well friends this sounds like Roman popery to me It is a quintessential example Now as the talk progresses those who uh oppose 7th Adventism are likened to Satan and how his fall captured a third portion of the angelic hosts And now get this not because Satan was right but rather because the angelic host sympathized with him First off that's not biblical That's Ellen White Second sympathy is made out to be something shunned because it's not godly He claimed and I quote "When you sympathize your reasoning capacities are shut down When you sympathize God's word is no longer your guide." Really He apparently hasn't read what his prophet says about the subject in totality Moreover he's referring to an old Rolling Stone song that's called Sympathy for the Devil Now it's not the first time I've heard him use this and go down this road Instead of using the Bible to support his stance he again employed Ellen White Friends this is typical What many users and abusers of Ellen White fail to realize is this She often made preemptive strikes herself based upon controversies against her and her influence because she had the money the influence and the power of the pen She often wrote things to degrade her naysayers before these things became public and in so doing made it appear as if God actually showed her something friend watch out for this kind of gaslighting Pastor Loccane then indicated he would be putting together a series addressing the major issues coming against the church which is again an indicator to me these people are nervous if not downright scared And here's where I want to leave it for now and also to set up an invitation John instead of doing this series in a vacuum with no accountability other than yourself I humbly invite you to a debate on these areas upon which we differ based upon what you stated Number one the Holy Spirit as a separate being and third person of the Godhead Number two the 2300 days and the sanctuary message Number three the so-called pre-advent investigative judgment Number four 7th Day Adventist understanding of salvation And number five the role of Ellen White John I will pay my own expenses I will come to your turf and let you choose the moderator My intention is to have a scholarly debate using the Bible only Each man will present a main point for five minutes The other will then have five minutes to respond to that point And since you're the one making the major contentions here I am happy to be in receive mode throughout the entire debate I suggest the time for the debate de debate to be capped at 2 hours and if we do require more time which is probably pretty like likely then we can extend upwards of 30 minutes and no longer there would be no formal question and answer session only sidebar discussions with those who might be willing and so Pastor Lom King if you are willing then please contact me and we can agree to a mutual date if not then Please understand I will be watching and listening In fact we all will closely and carefully We mosquitoes are prepared to swarm because for far too long the beliefs of Seventh Day Adventism have hidden in the shadows absent of much scrutiny or accountability Y'all fooled Walter Martin But those days my friend are over I will respond to every point you make and ensure the points upon which we disagree I will fairly and honestly address every matter line upon line precept upon precept So friends let me be clear This debate is not going away Seventh day Adventist leaders realize they are on shaky ground especially now that their beliefs are an open book accessible via the internet Moreover that those of us who've been there and seen its erroneous doctrines are speaking out and actually having an impact People are waking up There are holes in the hull of the Seventh Day Adventist ship and it's rapidly taking on water And the people who've for so long been like sheep led to the slaughter and opened up their mouths are ill equipped to combat it other than to provide decades old polished responses and platitudes not grounded in biblical orthodoxy And this is the reason right now Pastor Loccane and others of his status now feel more than ever compelled to defend their beliefs The problem is certain aspects of their belief system are simply indefensible And finally God indeed has a remnant and it just so happens to be the swarm of mosquitoes whom Pastor Lang disparages in a very demeaning remark toward the end of his video Friends here's the truth The emperor has no clothes and now the whole world can see it And I hope Pastor Locane can see it And I hope John that you accept my invitation And until next time don't you think that any of the videos of um Alan Davis might have caused Ryan Day to leave the SCA church noun Alan Davis has challenged pastor John Lumachang asking him to come for a debate friends a debate and will pastor John Lumachang accept and meet Alan Davis for the debate I don't know I don't know friends I don't know but what do you think do you want pastor John Lomachang to go for the debate with um Alan Davis Let me know that in the comments friends But personally I think pastor John Makang should should go Yes that is what I think Ryan Day was SDA pastor However he did not believe in some of the teachings or doctrines of the church I mean the SDA church Now let's answer the critical questions Let's answer the critical questions How many pastors are still in the church that don't believe in some of the doctrines or the teachings of the church today How many pastors SDA pastors are still in the church Now we know Ryan day he is out but I believe that there are some more in the church that don't believe in all the doctrines or the teachings of the church they are there So how many of them do we have friends Let's look at another questions How many pastors are still in the church that don't believe in the spirit of prophecy How many friends I think Seventh Day Adventist members need to be very careful with pastors that openly say that they don't believe in the writings of Ellen White or pastors that don't quote Ellen White from the pulpit We need to look at those pastors very well because some of them are just like Ryan Day They don't believe yet they teach And there is another question that we need to also look at Look at the photo right on your screens How many pastors in the church today represent this photo How many pastors represent this photo Because from what we are seeing from Ryan Day it means that there are some pastors in the church that are wolf in sheep clothing in the church Yes friends So um we need to keep praying as members of the church and we need to keep searching the scriptures daily Um friends there is another video that I will be sharing right here on this channel and uh friends you need to watch that video Um it's all about what is taking place right day 3BN pastor John Lakang and yes I'm going to share that So make sure you don't miss any of the videos that I publish right here on this channel So please subscribe subscribe to this channel like this video and share your thoughts in the comments here on this channel We share and comment on events that are taking place both within the church SDA church and outside of the church Friends this is your brother Lawrence Thanks for watching See you next time God bless