okay now the Quran just said it it's perfectly clear it explains everything in it all things in it perfectly clearly that's what it said in those verses then it contradict itself so if the Quran is perfectly clear and explains all things can you tell me just from the Quran who that servant is do you have the answer for that just from the Quran we know the prophet prove it how do you know that where did the Quran say it's the prophet why you reading later hadiths into this because when you go to the Hadith it's going to embarrass you that's why I'm saying be careful don't run to the Hadith so from that verse alone can you prove to me it's Muhammad no we know it's Muhammad how do you know that where did the Quran tell you it's Muhammad the name Muhammad only appears four times in your entire Quran how do you know it's m know how do you know I'm still waiting for the answer how do you know they control your mind are you allowed to ask questions of in Christian yes Isaiah 1118 God says come now let us reason together come now let us reason together no way yes and then again let me give you another one first Thessalonians chapter 5 we're told in first Thessalonians chapter 5 to hold fast to that which is true test all things test all things and hold fast to that which is true test all things and hold fast to that which is true right who says that that's the Apostle Paul the Apostle Paul in his letter to the first Thessalonians he says that okay 1 Thessalonians 5:21 test all things hold fast what is good test all things and that which is good you hold fast to Isaiah 1118 come now let us reason together that's what we're exhorted to do but anyway that's that's the Bible put that aside you work down about Quran contradictions is that the only one you have well that's more than you have in the Quran you just said that you're not supposed to question chapter 5 verse 101 to 102 of the Quran MAA do not ask questions because some before you ask and they lost their faith that's MAA 5 101 to 102 but forget that put out of sight so that's your first contradiction you ready for some more you got more I got I can be here for weeks I mean it's that's it's you ready I mean it's up to you are you tired you want to retire for the night no I know how long have we been here only 10 minutes we can do a couple more okay you ready okay uh chapter 17 verse one of the crown I got a lot so I'm trying to make the most of this time chapter 17 verse is that okay 17 okay okay read for me glory be to the one who took his servant Muhammad by okay by the way your translation is adding words the word Muhammad is not there the Arabic doesn't say Muhammad it says glory be he who took a servant by night so don't read what's added in parentheses and brackets that's not in the Arabic you can see the Arabic it doesn't say that yeah it doesn't so good keep the word Muhammad is not there I can identify that and a lot of other things won't be there that they add to the verse okay glory be to the one who took his servant By Night from the sacred mosque to the farthest mosque whose surroundings we have blessed you finish it finish so that we may show him some of our signs indeed he alone is the all hearing allseeing okay now the Quran just said it it's perfectly clear it explains everything in it all things in it perfectly clearly that's what it said in those verses then it contradict itself so if the Quran is perfectly clear and explains all things can you tell me just from the Quran who that servant is do you have the answer for that just from the Quran who took his servant yeah who's the Ser just from the Quran don't give me Hadith that explains it or translations that at words and brackets or parentheses from the sacred mosque to the farthest mosque whose surroundings we have blessed so that we may show him some of our signs indeed he alone is all hearing all seeing so can you show me who the servant is this doesn't th this one here doesn't validate your point no you didn't I didn't finish my point didn't answer my question who is the servant and how do you know we know the prophet prove it how do you know that where did the Quran say it's the prophet why are you reading later hadiths into this because when you go to the Hadith it's going to embarrass you that's why I'm saying be careful don't run to theth so from that verse alone can you prove to me it's Muhammad okay now follow can't take a verse we can't take a Quran verse in isolation of itself without okay I'm not taking isolation I'm reading it in the Quran can you show me anything in your 114 chapters of the Quran that explains it because you're the one who told me in the comment section on Skype no Hadith I have it didn't you tell me no Hadith yeah okay so I'm now holding you accountable to your own standard no Hadith the Quran alone in the Quran can you show me that's Muhammad wow Sam Shimon really brings up some thought-provoking points here let's unpack this first off his comparison between the Bible and the Quran regarding questioning and reasoning is striking the Bible's encouragement to test all things and reason together Isaiah 1:18 1 Thessalonians 5:21 emphasizes an open Critical examination of Truth something we can all appreciate it shows a God who invites dialogue not blind Obed Obi now let's pivot to The quran's Stance 5: 101 to 102 explicitly warn against asking questions that could lead to doubt that's a significant contrast if questioning is discouraged how can one critically assess the truth of the claims in the Quran Sam shimun points out this contradiction effectively highlighting the tension between the quran's claim of clarity and its apparent resistance to scrutiny then there's the Deep dive into chapter 17 verse one about the servant taken by night Sam Shimon rightly questions who is this servant the verse itself doesn't specify Muhammad and relying on Hadith for clarification seems inconsistent with the claim that the Quran is entirely self-explanatory if the Quran truly explains all things shouldn't it provide this detail this challenge is compelling because it calls out the need for external sources to make sense of the quran's ambiguity no we know it's Muhammad how do you know that where did the Quran tell you it's Muhammad the name Muhammad only appears four times in your entire Quran how do you know how do you know I'm still waiting for the answer how do you know okay now related to the same verse it says who took his servant By Night from the inviable mosque to the farthest mosque where is is M can you show me from the Quran where and what is mam from the Quran it's in Saudi Arabia where did the Quran say Saudi Arabia where does that verse say Saudi Arabia it doesn't say that but I know m is is mentioned and where does it tell you m is in Arabia secondly what's the farthest mosque m where is that at Jerusalem where did the the verse say Jerusalem why are you making things up as you go along where did that verse say Jerusalem well this verse doesn't say Jerusalem but the Quan told you in those six or more verses that you read and I have a lot more it explains all things in this book it's perfectly clear and perfectly clearly explains the verses how come it fails to explain this verse for you and it's less than perfectly clear okay now I got even more problems with the verse okay now who's the one saying glory be to him but this one it's it's you you're taking this verse and isolation of itself okay give me the context of the Quran give me the rest of the verses so I don't take it in isolation where in the Quran does it explain this verse I'm not taking anything in isolation no but you're you're you're basically saying that the Quran doesn't explain that or doesn't reveal that the the farthest mosque yes in Jerusalem exactly it doesn't that's the truth and doesn't tell you who the servant is maybe it's Moses how do you know because Moses if you're saying jerusa Moses was in in that area the Quran mentions the name Muhammad four times and in places where it doesn't assume that every other instance where it says say or where it says oh Prophet it's Muhammad how do you know that what say that again the name Muhammad only appears four times and it's mentioned in certain isolated places scattered throughout the Quran so how do you know that whenever the Quran says say oh Prophet or the prophet is not harsh with the Believers that that's Muhammad how do you know that see you keep assuming that every time the Quran says say that's Muhammad that's being told to say or when it says and the prophet is not harsh that's Muhammad who's the prophet where does the Quran say that this is Muhammad when it mentions the prophet or why does it have to be a criteria because you told me don't go to the Hadith I'm using your Criterion do you remember did I say not to go to Hadith or you said it so without the Hadith answer those questions especially when the Quran says it perfectly clearly explains everything in the book I'm going by your Criterion did you send me tell me don't use Hadith because if I use Hadith it's going to be more embarassment which I will in a minute but before we go there who's saying in 17 verse1 glory be to him who's speaking Allah so Allah is speaking to himself and glorifying himself yeah oh you're okay with it so you're okay with Allah saying glory be to him instead of saying glory be to me who carried my servant by night so Allah has to speak of himself in the third person yeah that's how Allah reversed to himself okay well good I'm glad you said Allah but then Allah goes on to say so that we might show him some of our signs so Allah is saying glory be to him which is me who carried his servant by night which is my servant from the inviable mosque to the far's mosque whose precincts we blessed so we might show him I'll admit this verse doesn't explain the locations no but that's even more than that what I'm asking is why can't Allah simply that to you you tried to get me busted with that I'm saying yeah if you're taking this verse in isolation of itself even in the context of the Quran you're not going to be able to figure out because there's nothing in the Quran in other verses that tell you what this means I have to investigate that keep investigating but don't forget two points this is the same cron that told you it is a book that explains all things and is perfectly clear and perfectly clearly explains explains its verses yet it doesn't but here's the point I want you to focus on so we can go to another example focus on this point with me Allah speaking and Allah says pay attention you can see the Arabic you'll confirm it Allah saying to himself glory be to him which is actually me who carried his servant by night which is my servant from the inviable mosque to the farthest mosque and now notice Allah says whose precincts we blessed now but pay attention to this part so that we we might show him our signs ayat right do you see Allah says we might show him yeah okay now here's my question if you're following the Arabic and the English so he goes we might show him our signs he is the Seer wait so the one that Allah is showing his signs Allah just says about him the one that he showed his mirac Les to he the one we showed our signs to he's the Seer the knower who's that yeah I I I I figured you know I had a feeling you might bring that up okay then address it but that's wow Sam Shimon makes a solid case here he highlights a key problem if the Quran claims to be perfectly CLE clear and explain all things why are crucial details like the identity of the servant or the locations of the mosques in ch 17 ver1 left ambiguous there's no mention of Muhammad Mecca or Jerusalem in the text these connections rely on Hadith which the Muslim debater disallowed that's a contradiction Sam shamun also points out Allah speaking in the third person glory be to him instead of me this odd phrasing adds confusion especially paired with the plural we plus calling the one shown signs the sear or the knower leaves us asking who exactly is this the Muslim side admits this is ambiguous but doesn't that undermine the quran's claim of clarity that's ambiguous yeah but my point is Allah says we might show him our Miracles because it because see this wouldn't be a contradiction I can I can agree doesn't doesn't specify is it not a contradiction because if the if Allah is saying we might we showed him our Miracles we may show him who signs yeah who's the him who is Allah showing his miracles too indeed he alone is the all hearing all knowing who's the him and the he so Allah showed him so Allah speaking saying we show and then saying he yeah but my point is the he is the him we might show him you keep forgetting that our signs if that's Allah why would Allah need Allah to show him Miracles Allah showing himself Miracles you know what hold on yeah exactly hold on but if it's Muhammad okay so let me see if I understand what you're saying yeah what I gather from what you're saying is that it says so that we that being Allah referring to himself we show him we may show him our signs and the claim is indeed he alone is all seeing yeah all hearing all seeing and who's you're saying why would Allah after just saying we say he no no it's more than that Allah says we showed him our signs and then speaking of him he says he the him that we showed our signs to he is the allseeing the all knowing who's the he and the yeah that's what that's what I'm saying if they want that's that's the point I'm getting at okay so who's the he and the the claim is that that Allah would be saying you know the claim is that Allah is the all all hearing all seeing so why would he say he no not only that why would instead of saying indeed I am the all knowing or inde indeed we are the all so you're trying to say that Allah is saying that Muhammad is the all hearing allseen is that what you're trying to say well I'm trying to say it let's see if you got it the him and the he are the same the one it says showed him our signs is the he who the all hearer and the all knower they don't change it's the same him and he so if you tell me Allah is the one that Allah just said he is this what I just said okay I know be patient for the love of your Allah stuck for Allah be patient if Allah is the one that Allah said he is the Seer and the knower then that means the we showed Allah Miracles so why would Allah need to be shown miracles from himself and if you say Muhammad it's even worse because if it's Muhammad we showed him Muhammad he may show him our signs Allah is showing the prophet oh but then you just destroyed sign okay but then finish it the he is the SE the he is the all hearing all that's Muhammad you just said it's Muhammad the him and the he don't change it's the same one okay that that's what I'm saying is Muhammad all hearing do you believe mam okay is Muhammad all hearing allseeing no so the all hearing allseeing refers to Allah so that's why with Allah is the one that was shown Miracles so now you're stuck you can't change it because it's the same him and he in the same sentence it doesn't change him we showed our signs he is the Seer so it's the same entity so who is it we're still trying to figure it out if it's Muhammad then Muhammad is all see if it's Allah you're claiming that this last sentence means that uh that it's referring to muhamad if it's Muhammad then Muhammad is the Seer and the knower so you made him God you made him in it doesn't change the him who saw the signs is the he who's the he and SE they don't change it's the same him and he so who is it we're still trying to figure it out help me out who is it if it's Allah then Allah is being shown Miracles by someone why would Allah need to be yeah because he said we showed him him so and then and so if if why wouldn't he say indeed we are the all hearing all thank you you got it so the him and the he is the same person if it's Muhammad then Muhammad is all seeing if it's Allah then Allah is being shown Miracles by someone else wow this part is a real Mindbender Sam Shimon skillfully breaks down the logical inconsistency in this verse the Quran says we showed him our signs and he is the all hearing allseeing but who exactly is the himym being shown Miracles if it's Allah why would Allah need to show himself Miracles that doesn't make sense if it's Muhammad then the verse is calling Muhammad all hearing and allseeing ATT tributes that belong only to God talk about a theological dilemma the Muslim side seems stuck here unable to resolve the contradiction Sam Shimon drives the point home the him and he refer to the same entity so if it's Allah it implies Allah is dependent on someone else to show him Miracles an absurd notion for an all powerful God if it's Muhammad it elevates him to a Divine level which is outright Blasphemous in Islamic theology either way the verse creates a massive theological and logical problem I have to ask the sheh about this so this is 171 yep now if you go outside the Hadith you got a problem if you go nobody has answers for this this kind of tongue I can't ask this my friend I've been doing it for years and I've yet to find a Muslim to refute and and done I'm talking about Muslims online who for years try to refute this so you can think that I'm lying it's there the arguments are there and I'm still yet to find a Muslim to respond to this because they can't you just can't these are just facts but let's use the Hadith you want to go outside the Hadith for the answer I'm sorry outside the Quran for the answer not outside the Hadith if we abandon now just the Quran and go to the Hadith or your commentators like IB cir you know how they explain it can I explain to you how they explain it so look how 172 mentions Moses's name thank you so that means Moses is a servant of verse one prove me wrong that's what I'm saying if you just follow your your Quran you can't tell me the servants Muhammad it's most likely Moses because he's mentioned right away and it's dealing with the Ben the children of Israel so prove to me the servant as Muhammad don't try to do the work of Shan what Shan you're ask me to show you contradictions if I'm no don't don't play with my brain I'm not playing with your brain you asked for this so that means you want Shan to keep you deceived into thinking the Quran is true whereas we want to try to show you Jesus is the truth not the Quran but let's not go there first let's finish the point do you want to go outside of the Quran and go to the Hadith to explain this we can do that you want me to show you either one because the is quoting the Hadith like IB cir according to IB C you know what this is referring to you want me to give it to you or no we I told you is fine I said tells you that this is referring to Muhammad when he was taken from the ca [Music] Tod meaning it's also called the temple in Jerusalem so IB C says and all the commentators not only him this is when in Medina your Prophet was taken from the Caba M to M which is in Jerusalem the temple in Jerusalem right yeah problem is there was no temple in Jerusalem the temple was destroyed twice the first temple was destroyed 586 years before the birth of Jesus the second Temple was destroyed in 70 AD 40 years after Jesus went to heaven so what Temple did he go there was no Temple so this why I say if we go to your commentators it's going to get worse for you 70 AD yep there was no Temple when Muhammad supposedly went to Jerusalem because IB kir says he went to Jerusalem on Bak with Gabriel and he tied Bak to the door entered into the temple and led the prophets in prayer there was no Temple for him to enter and then the mosque that's now known as M the masj AA that you now can visit in Jerusalem that was built by Abdul Malik around 691 ad about six years after your Prophet died so what Temple did he visit what Temple so this is why I say if you go outside the Quan you got problem 40 years after Jesus you said 70 AD yeah that's 40 years after Jesus went to heaven 70 years after he was born oh okay I see okay there was no Temple there was no Masjid no mosque in Jerusalem when your Prophet was in Mecca and supposedly tra there and the MOs that's now known as M that was built by Abdul Malik around 691 ad if my memory doesn't fail me and I'm pretty certain that's the date so what MOS did he visit okay but do you have evidence yeah IB cir tells me that he went to the temple he went inside the temple and he prayed with the prophets and all the commentators say thatb there is no Temple this is just a fact of history when Omar conquered Jerusalem the the site of the temple where it stood was a waste dump that's where they dumped their garbage and he had to clean it out that's a fact of history that's according to your history didn't Omar conquer Jerusalem yeah he did okay when he went to the Temple Mount where the temple used to stand he found it as the waste dump where they would dump their garbage whoa this part is pure gold when exposing historical contradictions Sam Shaman completely dismantles the claim that Muhammad traveled to a temple in Jerusalem during his isra night Journey here's the key the temple in Jerusalem the one referred to as the Temple of Solomon was destroyed centuries before Muhammad's time the first temple fell in 586 BCE and the second temple was wiped out in 70 c by the time of Muhammad 7th Century CE there was no Temple standing just ruins even more compelling Sam shamun highlights that the current al- oxa mosque wasn't built until 691 CE well after Muhammad's death so when the Quran and commentators like iban kathir claim Muhammad went to a temple or Masjid Al AA in Jerusalem it's an anachronism a historical impossibility this begs the question what Temple or mosque did Muhammad allegedly visit the Muslim interlocutor has no answer because history doesn't back their claim Sam shamun rightly points out that relying on the Hadith or Islamic commentators only makes the contradiction more glaring the oh well you're probably right you're right yeah it does have it oh my bad good okay keep reading it says farthest MOS the Holy House of Jerusalem it's right there in Jal I just opened it up let me get the link for everyone else the Holy House in Jerusalem he didn't say the site he said the house what house there is no as an adverbial qualification is means to travel by night what is instructive about this mention of Leen by night is that through its being indefinite there is an indication of the brevity of its duration yep keep reading keep reading going to see from the sacred mosque that is Mecca to the farthest mosque to the Holy House what to the farthest MOS the Holy House of Jerusalem what holy house there was no Holy House in Jerusalem at this time keep reading socalled because of its distance from the former the environs of which we have blessed with fruits and rivers that we might show him some of our signs the marbles of our power indeed he is the hearing the seeing that is to say the knower of the Prophet sayings and deeds thus he Allah was gracious to him by way of carrying him on the night Journey which comprised his encountering the other prophets his Ascension to heaven and the sight of the marbles of the Divine realm and his communion communion communion yeah that's like Fellowship keep going is exalted okay communion exalted [Music] be be with him for he the prophets said I was brought a white animal larger than a donkey but smaller than a mule it was able to place its hoof back towards its EX extremity and so I mounted it it set off carrying me until I reached the Holy House of Jerusalem what Holy House hold on what Holy House in Jerusalem there was no house in Jerusalem but then finish look what he says he took the animal and he tied it to what read it there I fastened the animal to the ring where the prophets fast in their animals what ring there was no ring to any house because there was no house and they all agree so I I was unaware that jaline provides more details I thought it was very short to the point but thank you for bringing to my attention because I cir is quite detailed but you just read it he went to a house that did not exist and he placed his his animal well it doesn't say it doesn't exist are you kidding me the holy house at that time did not exist this is the mistake in your Hadith and in your commentators they're telling you you went to a house that historically did not exist this is a fact of history dude unless you want to just make up things as you go along no so you the Holy House in Jerusalem there is no Holy House in Arabic there was no bait at this time when your Prophet went look at what do you need someone to even explain to you what a bait is so we went to the commentators to explain the AY because I want to make sure that it's referring to that we're referring to the same thing it's and now we're not referring to something else the only house that was in Jerusalem is the temple that God had Solomon built I mean this is just basic knowledge that even your Muslim Scholars admit but there was no Temple when your Prophet went there because during this time he's in Mecca and Muhammad ministered mecca for 13 years from 610 the Holy Temple Temple yeah there was no Temple of Solomon so that's my point when Muhammad was in Mecca that's between the year 610 to 613 ad 610 613 I'm sorry 610 623 ad my bad very bad at math so Lord Jesus save me from error for the glory of your name by the power of the spirit in Jesus name yeah anyway 610 he began the call to the meccans to Islam because supposedly at 610 jbel said you're a messenger and Prophet from 610 to 623 ad he's in Mecca 13 years there is no Temple or mosque in Jerusalem in 600 623 ad because the Temple of Islamic sources it refers to the entire area where the not the words comp let's try this again I know you're trying hard the word Masjid is used twice in the Ayah it's I challenge you to show me where the word Masid in [Music] thean let's try this again it's there in your a took him from m to it's there twice no one denies that m is an actual building it's the Caba so now prove to me that when it says he went from one Masjid to another when it says that doesn't mean a building anymore change the definition for me please from m so the word Masjid appears twice the first time no one's going to deny it's a building it's the Caba so then prove to me then when it then says that's not a building anymore now you're going to reinterpret the word that's a building okay but there was no building in Jerusalem this is the point we've been stuck on for the past 10 minutes but there is no other building none none no building no place of worship that the prophets went to and fasten their animals to and this is supposedly referring to well that's what you wanted me to show you from the commentator so you want to so forget the commentators and stick with the Quran right this segment is another home run by Sam shimun in exposing the inconsistencies of Islamic claims the Quran 171 speaks of Muhammad's night Journey isra from the sacred mosque Masjid alh Haram to the farthest mosque Masjid al- AA but here's the kicker no such mosque or Temple existed in Jerusalem during Muhammad's lifetime the Holy House mentioned in Islamic sources whether referring to Solomon's Temple or some other structure was destroyed centuries earlier as Sam shamun correctly points out the contradiction becomes even clearer with the Hadith and commentaries like jalalain and iban Cath which describe Muhammad tying his Mount Barack to a ring at this holy house and praying inside but this raises a glaring historical problem what house or mosque could Muhammad have possibly visited if none existed Sam shamun delivers The Knockout Punch here Islamic sources are referencing a phys IAL structure that simply wasn't there the Muslim response is to reinterpret the term musjid claiming it could refer to the area or a symbolic meaning but as Sam shamon brilliantly highlights the word Masjid is used twice in the quranic verse once for the cabba which is a physical building and once for the farthest mosque why would the meaning change mids sentence that's inconsistent and doesn't hold water okay I see I see I will check it all right now I can give you a third contradiction we're going to have a lot of fun I mean the third contradiction okay oh another one oh yeah yeah I got too many man but let me give you a third one if you want to continue will but go to maida chapter 5 9091 chapter 5 90 91 Surah MAA chapter 5: 9 1991 okay all believers intoxicant scambling idols and drawing lots for decisions are all evil of Satan's handywork so handiwork before you move on mean Satan created idolatry games of chance and intoxicant right his handiwork his creation right yeah you got it right uhhuh reread it again 9091 read 90 to 91 read it again because I want it to sink in Satan's plan is to stir up hostility and hatred between you with intoxicants and gambling and to prevent you from remembering Allah and pray praying will you not then obstain read 90 one more time I want you to catch it but it was arreated yeah forget that's this is the one that arreated the other verses that came before it according to your commentators that's not my question don't you guys have agregation in the Bible yeah well I I you didn't even get to the point you want to change subject we can ask you a question I'll I'll get there first read who created intoxicants because God had different covenants with different people who created intoxicants don't change the subject verse 90 telling you who created intoxic throw stones if you live in a glass house who created intoxicant now you're getting scared you're ashamed of your Dean who created intoxicants I'm not ashamed of the I'm telling you in 90 who created the intoxicant so why does Allah take shayan's creation and make it one of your rewards in Paradise that's my argument why are you going to have intoxicant in Jenna in Paradise no no no yes chapter 47 verse1 15 of the Quran that's the reward why is Allah rewarding you with a creation of Satan you're not getting my question pretend you understood if Satan created intoxicants he created wine why is Allah rewarding you with a creation of Satan this is a weak argument for you okay then answer it I'll admit your previous two answer it have to look into answer it look into Jihad I'm gonna hang up on you if you don't answer it why is Allah giving you Satan's creation as a reward in J well I cannot answer that question but what I can tell you is that in heaven everything goes even Satan's creation goes so Allah is going to take Satan's creation and make it your word in Paradise that oh beautiful then perfect sense but let me tell you something it's Satan's handywork on Earth because Shan has power on Earth and so where does can you show me where the Quran says on Earth only that intoxicants were only created by Satan on Earth and to use your logic that means using your logic even though intoxicants are the creation of Satan you still can have it in Paradise that means you can also have idolatry in Paradise right because it says Satan created intoxicants idolatry and games of chance so according to your logic idolatry in Jenna would be okay as long as you don't do it on Earth is that what you're saying idolatry we will be with Allah okay but wait wait no follow your logic you're saying intoxicant on Earth is the creation of Satan and it's evil on Earth but okay in Paradise that means if you're going to going to be consistent idolatry should be okay in Paradise as well well in Christianity the heaven has the same things can you show me in the Bible where it says wine is a creation of Satan show me that in the Bible jness your religion says that intoxicant which includes wine is created by Satan just like he created idolatry and games of chance so why is Allah honoring Satan's creation and making it your reward in Paradise I'm going to make a note of it but then it gets worse for you friend because elsewhere it says that intoxicant is the creation of Allah so is Shan and Allah Partners in creation I'm going to talk to a friend of mine who has a lot of knowledge but you didn't hear me here it says wine which is part of intoxication is a creation of Shan but elsewhere in chapter 16 of the Quran it says that intoxicant which you make which you make from the fruits of day palm and grapes is one of the blessings of Allah this just escalated quickly Sam Shimon absolutely Nails a critical contradiction here the Quran in Surah 590 to 91 clearly states that intoxicants Kamar gambling and idolatry are the handiwork of Satan evil and harmful Creations meant to stir up enmity among people yet shockingly the Quran also promises wine as a reward in Paradise Surah 47:5 hold on how does that work if wine is Satan's handiwork why would Allah offer it as a Divine reward that's mind-bogglingly inconsistent the Muslim inter locutor attempt to justify this by claiming everything goes in Paradise doesn't cut it if intoxicants can somehow transition from being Satan's evil creation on Earth to Allah's blessing in heaven then by that logic idolatry another handy work of Satan mentioned in the same verse could also be permissible in Paradise that's a slippery slope and it undermines the quran's moral consistency even more bizarrely Sam shamun points out that in Surah 16 67 intoxicants made from fruits are described as one of Allah's blessings so are wine and intoxicants Satan's creation or Allah's blessing this creates a theological conundrum is Satan partnering with Allah in creation that's a huge problem for Islamic theology which emphasizes strict monotheism and rejects any form of partnership with Allah can you go toah chapter 16 for me 16 uh what verse read 65 I at 65 to 69 do you have agregation in the Bible oh we'll talk about that it's not the same I'll talk about it just let's finish this point and I'll talk about it 16 what 59 65 to 69 is 59 to 65 65 to 69 what 59 16 ay 65 all the way to 69 and Allah sends down rain from the sky giving life to the Earth after its death and that's a blessing right these are the blessings of Allah right huh these are the blessings of Allah correct he blesses you by sending rain on a dead Earth to make it alive right that's his Blessing wait and Allah sends down rain from the sky giving life to the Earth after its death surely in this is a sign from those who listen so that's one of the blessings of Allah now the other blessing of Allah doesn't say it's a blessing so wait so when Allah sends water to revive the Earth that's a curse it's not a blessing yeah you make sense so it's a curse from Allah it doesn't mean it's a curse either the point point of the Ayah to show you the goodness of Allah and how ungrateful you are your Earth is dead which means you can't survive because there's no food so what does he do he makes it alive by sunning rain so that you can eat but no that doesn't mean it's a blessing okay alhamdulillah exactly and now read the other verse to show these are the blessings of Allah and there is certainly a lesson for you in cattle we give you to drink of what is in their bellies in between their crap and their blood betwix the refus and blood pure milk between digested food and blood pure milk Pleasant to drink and that's not a blessing so Allah gave you milk not to bless you but to poison you of course these are the blessings of Allah keep reading from the fruits of palm trees and G and grape Vines you derive in intoxicants so as well okay hold on before you finish so let's understand logic of what you just read Allah mention the intoxicants that you make from the fruits of grapes and date palms in the same context where Allah gives you milk from cows and Allah sends you rain on a dead land to make it alive with produce and then read the next keep reading wait a minute read the next one nourishment intoxicants and nourishment right Lo there andd the sign for people who have the Lord inspired the bees okay make your homes in the mountains trees and in what people construct 69 and these bees do what freed from the flow of any fruit you please and follow the ways of your Lord has made easy for you from their bellies comes forth liquid of varying colors in which there is healing for people surely in this is a sign of those who reflect okay now pay attention to what you just read the bees give you this drink of diverse colors for healing and the cows give you milk to drink and Allah sends rain on the earth that's dead to make it alive so you can have all this produce to eat then you're saying the wine that's part of the blessings that's in that list and Allah gave you date palms and grapes so that you can make intoxicants as well as other nourishments from it so here intoxicant is one of the blessings of Allah but inah it's a creation of Shan to mislead you and deceive you from Allah so which is it and who gave it to us us Allah or Satan who gave it to you Allah or Satan so the other one was what 590 yeah 59091 it says that intoxicant are Satan's creation but here it says intoxicants are some of the blessings from Allah so did Allah take Shan as his partner in creation to create something that is a blessing but then you're told it's a curse in stay away from it so which is it is it a blessing or a curse I'm confused only Allah knows all right Allah now yeah okay okay about agregation that you say we have abreg agregation okay well no we don't have Islamic agregation what we have in the Bible is God in his mercy and love we looking let me make the point because I'm going to show you what your a says where throwing stones out of a glass house are are we say no we're not okay do you want me to answer or do you want to just pretend that you're hearing so I can go into more contradiction of the Quran and not waste my time answering your question okay go ahead okay when we talk about abrogation in the Bible we're talking about a covenant that God made with Israel 1500 years before Jesus comes 1500 years later because of Israel's failure to honor God and being thrown out of the land and now under the rule of foreigners God in his Mercy responds to their circumstances 1500 years later and gives them a new covenant a covenant that takes their circumstances into consideration so it's not abrogation in the sense that you understand it's 1500 years from Moses to Jesus where Israel is no longer in the land they're scattered out of the land then they're brought back into the land and have foreigners now ruling them which means they cannot apply the Covenant of Moses as it was given because of their circumstances so God and His Mercy how come your God can't can't give them the power to uh because that's his punishment and that's what your Quran says in chapter 17 if you read it all the way to nine it says that because they failed to honor the Covenant Allah brought Nations to punish them and beat them entering into their homes so how come your God Allah couldn't give them the power yeah I thought so but now let me show you why it's not the same thing as your abrogation let me ask you a question was there any agregation in your Bible between Abraham and Moses and between any of the let's let's forget how can how can it be an abrogation when Abraham is not a community who lives in the land and he's supposed to rule the land when he's a stranger in the land what abreg he's a unique person Liv living in a unique circumstance where the land is not his it's occupied by the Canaanites so whatever rules God gives him it's for his needs to meet him where he's at whereas now at the time of Moses it's an entire nation commanded to rule and own the land that Abraham was living as a stranger how's that agregation how's that agregation but now I'm going to show you the promot your abrogation are you ready it's my rules here no no no no no no actually it's because Muhammad would change his mind the next day what kind of abreg is this when you say a on Monday but then you say no it's B on Tuesday and that's why they mocked your Prophet go to chapter 16 verse 101 of the crme okay we'll get to this it's it's very late I have okay are you done then we retiring I retire can I read it for you before you retire and I have to go do some now uhuh so you're out of it you're going to do mut well let me read this Ayah for you before you go can I read give me two minutes to read the difference where even the unbelievers started mocking your Prophet okay let me just read 16101 and I'll read 16 Ayah 101 and when we change a verse of the Quran I cancel abrus order in place of another and Allah knows the best of what he sends down they the disbeliever say you Muhammad are but a mui a forger a liar nay but most of them know not first Surah 16 65-69 Praises Allah for blessings like rain milk and fruits including the intoxicants derived from grapes and date palms the Quran explicitly calls these blessings from Allah yet in Surah 590 to 91 intoxicants are labeled as Satan's handiwork a tool to lead people astray hold on how does that even make sense is wine a divine blessing or Satan's evil creation you can't have it both ways and the Muslim interlocutor's response completely dodging the contradiction the logic here is flawed if intoxicants are a blessing from Allah in one verse and a curse from Satan in another does that mean Allah and Satan are collaborating in creation that's the opposite of monotheism and undermines the quran's claim of being clear and free from error on the topic of abreg Sam shamun highlights another critical issue the Quran admits to changing verses Surah 16101 which even led to unbelievers mocking Muhammad this isn't Divine wisdom unfolding over centuries like the covenants in the Bible but rather a series of on the-fly changes that seem reactionary now let me show you the commentators why did the unbeliever say your Prophet is a liar okay let me read it to you let's go to11 yes now let me read the two Jal because you said you wanted to go D mut so let me read it to you you ready just joking I know I know I know you're because you're Sunni you don't do that but if Muhammad was around he would give you the authorization to do it but then Ali abated it according to the Sunni tradition okay ready go send can you send me the T here yeah yeah okay I'll give it to you let me get you the the particular one I was going to give you Jalel uh I'll give you hold on all right Yep this is the one one second because I want to give you the one that's precise on why they complained okay here you go1 by jalb Abbas they all record the complaint of the unbelievers but this one tells you why specifically they complained here let me send you L by okay now pay mention the problem with your view of abreg watch this okay watch this and when we put a revelation in place of another Revelation this verse was revealed watch when the idolator said Muhammad is mocking his companions why one day he commands them to do something and the next day he forids them from doing it what kind of logic is this that within 24 hours I change my mind and change the ruling with a ruling that's different and contradictory within 24 hours one day he commands him to do something and the next day 24 hours later he forbids them from doing it or brings instead something which is easier is nothing but a Calum Cal a forger Calum calumniator yeah who says things of his own invention so can you explain to me the logic in canceling out AB ating a ruling within 24 hours what happened in 24 hours for for the circumstances to change so drastically in 24 hours to demand a new ruling no uh rob you misspoke it's as bab by Eli what Omar I don't know what you're talking about because Rob says I spoke what Ali what Omar you guys are confusing me now did I say okay maybe you're right what did I say Rob hold on man he said something about Omar see this guy just threw me off yeah what what are you guys talking about Omar now I wasn't talking no it is Ali no no no Rob Christian I didn't misspeak no no no Rob Christian I'm gonna have to correct you no I didn't misspeak because it says Ali abrogated it in the Sunni tradition I know Omar abrogated it but then he reinstated it this is why you'll have Hadith saying Ali abrogated mut so no Rob I didn't missp speak you thought I misspoke but that's good I'm glad I could correct you in love Ali abrogated it according to the Sunni tradition Let Me Now find you the Hadith because I love it when my brother thinks he's correcting me and I'm going to correct him here watch it let me show you that's not the subject right no hold on because Rob thinks that he's better than me even though I'm much better than him better looking one second dude hold on okay let me get it through no I didn't miss speak you know Arabic I don't even know English that you want me to know Arabic hold on okay let me get it free Budd okay well I made some notes here and I'll be looking into I know what you're talking about he's talking about Omar having but then he reinstated it okay let me just get it for you so sorry guys but anyway now getting back to you are you there are you there my friend huh are you there are you listening to me sir me no my mother yeah you can you explain to me how within 24 hours the circumstances can change so drastically that your Prophet that your Prophet is that 16101 yes yeah I I don't have any answers you sure no I'll I'll check it okay I'll check it but if I ask the sh I don't I don't I don't know I mean uh what have you ever debated a sheh before yes I have I mean but what's that brought these points what do they tell you uh I'm a caer I'm a idiot I'm stupid and that's basically it what were they going to tell me they don't have an answer no they come up with a thousand answers that are no answers they're all silly and stupid okay hold on a minute Sam shamon really Nails it here the issue with abreg in the Quran is just mindboggling I mean the logic of changing rulings within 24 hours are we serious one day your Prophet says do this and the next day boom he completely forbids it or replaces it with something else this isn't Divine wisdom it's confusion imagine living in a time where the leader of your community flips the script like that no consistency no explanation the complaint from the unbelievers about Muhammad being a forger Rings alarm Bells the inconsistency is clear if a law can be changed within 20 4 hours where is the trust in a divinely inspired leader you can't just call it circumstances changing because guess what no reasonable person believes that such a dramatic change in Direction can happen so quickly unless the whole system is flawed this is exactly why Sam shimun is right to point out that the concept of abreg here is not just a theological issue it's a serious credibility problem for the Quran the way these rules change so rapidly gives off the of a human trying to find the right solution not the Eternal Word of a perfect God and the Muslim side is left scrambling for explanations which only highlights the deep contradictions within the text and there you have it another Deep dive into the contradictions within the Quran that challenge its Divine Authority as we've seen today the inconsistencies in abreg the conflicting rulings and the sudden shifts in Direction raise serious questions this isn't just about faith it's about logic and Clarity when you look at it through an objective lens it's clear that these contradictions aren't signs of divine wisdom but signs of human error thanks for watching and joining us on this journey of exploration don't forget to like comment and subscribe for more insightful discussions on religious texts 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