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Real Estate Bird Dogging Overview

Sep 2, 2025

Summary

  • This meeting was an in-depth overview of the bird dog role in real estate investing, including how bird dogs earn fees, the flow of money in typical transactions, and the necessary contracts.
  • Key examples and a guest interview with Bill illustrated bird dogging as a no-cost entry point into real estate, leading to further opportunities.
  • The group discussed payment structures, avoiding unethical practices, and strategies for building relationships and finding buyers.
  • Concluding, a prize was awarded for engagement, and instructions were set for the next session focusing on acquiring suppliers and landing a first bird dog deal.

Action Items

  • Ongoing – Carly: Share JV agreement and purchase/sale contracts in the side chat for participant download.
  • By Next Session – Carly: Confirm and coordinate travel details for prize winner (REI_investor) to attend Pace’s office event.
  • Next Session – Pace: Prepare and share a detailed game plan for securing a first bird dog deal in under one week (including strategies for finding suppliers and buyers).
  • Ongoing – All participants: DM Bill on Instagram for networking, buy box details, and potential deal collaborations.
  • Tomorrow (5:00 pm PST) – All participants: Attend next live session covering supplier acquisition and actionable steps for new bird dogs.

Bird Dogging in Real Estate: Transaction Flow and Payment

  • A bird dog is an individual who finds investment deals for buyers but does not negotiate contracts or directly acquire properties; instead, they connect wholesalers and buyers (fix and flippers).
  • The core parties in a transaction include the seller, agent, wholesaler, bird dog, and end buyer (“Flip”).
  • The standard money flow: buyer funds (often from hard/private money lenders) are wired to the title company, which then pays out the seller, wholesaler, bird dog, and covers closing costs.
  • Bird dogs typically use a simple JV (joint venture) agreement with buyers to formalize their fee, which may vary by end buyers’ preferences and profit margin on the deal.
  • Bird dogging offers a no-cost, low-barrier entry to real estate, with no need for software, CRM, or upfront investment—just relationship-building and persistence.

Role Progression, Education, and Industry Practices

  • Bird dogging serves as a practical education for new investors, teaching transaction flow, terminology, and business relationships while earning fees.
  • The guest (Bill) described a trajectory from bird dogging to directly buying and holding properties, emphasizing the educational value and low risk.
  • Most successful bird dogs focus on serving one quality buyer at a time, building trust and receiving feedback to improve deal quality.
  • Payment structures can range from $5,000 to $15,000+ per deal, depending on buyer profit margin (10% net = $10k fee; 15% net = $15k fee, etc.), with transparency and agreement up front.
  • Bird dogging is distinguished from daisy chaining, which is unethical: daisy chaining involves misrepresenting oneself as the buyer, while bird dogging is fully transparent about roles.

Community and Event Announcements

  • The Sub 2 community provides a large peer network and access to buyers for bird dogs and investors.
  • An attendee (“REI_investor”) won a prize to visit the host’s office, furthering engagement.
  • The next session will detail step-by-step actions for new bird dogs to get their first deal in under a week, including live Q&A and further guest insights.

Decisions

  • Standardize bird dog fee structure based on buyer’s net profit — $10k for 10% net profit, $5k for under 10%, $15k for over 15%; rationale: ensures equitable payment correlating to deal profitability and encourages repeated business.
  • Community resource sharing — JV and purchase/sale agreements made available via side chat to streamline transactions for new participants.

Open Questions / Follow-Ups

  • Participants requested more guidance on sourcing buyers (“where to find buyers”), which will be addressed in the following session.
  • Further clarification on “daisy chain” scenarios and contract handling for non-community (Sub 2) deals is suggested for future discussion.
  • Confirmation that prize winner (REI_investor) receives and coordinates travel arrangements with Carly.
  • Details about the exact process for bringing deals to Pace for non-Sub 2 members to be clarified in future sessions.