coach Greg and I am going to be explaining everything you ever wanted to know about s4 also known as an Doreen today before I get into that I am definitely not a doctor and I do not suggest or recommend that you take s4 it is for research purposes only not to be used by humans alright so let me make that clear it is legal for purchase but it is only as a research chemical it is not supposed to be ingested in any form okay so having said that let's get right into it s4 is a SARM a selective androgen receptor modulators so what it does is it binds to the anderson receptor and muscles for example and then it causes that to grow grow more muscle tissue as in get bigger faster similar to how steroids would work only with less side effects arguably less side effects and so it's supposed to be a safe fer supposed to be but I mean that is debatable and we'll get into that in a bit I like to refer to this SARM as weak whinny so we can call it weak whinny so if you're taking s4 are you Nattie know you're taking weak whinny it's not winstrol it's not that but it is going to do the same thing as what that would do to your muscles okay so let's be clear it is not legal for use in performance tested sports for example the Olympics you can't use this does it work yes estrogenic side effects do they have does it have any no so in other words you will not get guy no Z no chance of getting guy no no water attention no bloating no puffy face no moon face none of that you will look lean hard ripped you know assuming that you're already lean it's not gonna make you burn off a hundred pounds of fat magically but it's going to make you have an athletic ripped type of look it's not something that would be known as say a bunker to make you blow up and be all poofy okay so that's definitely a cutting type of steroid if there is such a thing there isn't really such a thing and it's not a stare at its ass arm but you get the point and you're genic effects these are more like does it give you any aggression and things like that and yes it does it does make you more aggressive it makes you want to attack the weights more it gives you more of a pop when you're lifting so to speak so it's going to have an androgenic effect it's gonna make your muscles appear harder leaner and more ripped okay obviously you still have to be lean you're now gonna be a fat you know big stomach and all of a sudden you have a six-pack what kind of anabolic effect does it have okay it's going to build muscle at a significant rate quicker than you would if you are not taking it what rate well it really depends on the dose the higher the dose to a point the more the results are gonna happen the faster you're gonna build muscle just as a rough estimate I would say you're gonna build muscle five to ten times faster than if you were training natural okay so by that I mean in a week you would gain five to ten weeks worth of muscle so in a month you could gain five to ten months worth of muscle so that's obviously a huge advantage then if you were training natural and this varies based on the dosage your experience level and what you've taken in the past and so on and honestly if you were on steroids and you stopped and you switch to this you're not gonna add muscle you're gonna lose it because it's weaker than most of the steroids that you would have been taking so remember that it's you can't just pinpoint and say I'm going to gain five pounds of muscle if I take this X amount of dose for X amount of weeks it does not work like that at all how strong is it in comparison to other SARM so there's a lot of different sir out there there's rad 140 ders LGD four zero three three there's aa stirring and that's just to name a few it is not one of the stronger ones I don't care I've read a bunch of [ __ ] things about it on the Internet I'm sure that most of you have done some research and read about it do you know a little bit about it it's not a strong SARM I don't care what it says on some stupid site that somebody wrote trying to sell you this stuff because they just wanna drag it up and then you're more likely to buy it okay this is no [ __ ] it is a weak SARM it is not as strong as read 140 or LGD not even close okay it's more similar to say Austrian if you want to give it a comparison an Austrian to me is the weakest of the bunch so it's not crazy it's not like oh my god I'm on s4 I'm gonna become Superman some of the side effects balding yes some people will affect their hair it'll cause some balding issues for people that are already prone to having it male pattern baldness they're already prone to getting it some people do get this although it's not an extremely common side effect some people will get that side effect from it not unlike basically all steroids almost all pill gonna do the same thing is it's oppressive okay suppressive suppression this is what that means when your body stops making testosterone so your body should be producing testosterone if it's not you make less of it and you feel less energy you have less sex drive decrease in libido poor sleep and just not feeling good okay s4 even though you read it's not gonna suppress you blah blah blah it is if you use any kind of a dose that most people are gonna use for an extended period of time you're going to be suppressed how will you know if you're suppressed well one of the biggest sites or signs that people will report is when they have a lower libido so they just don't want have sex as much maybe you sex everyday and now you only crave sex once a week you're definitely getting suppressed and we'll need a PCT this is very common especially in the higher dose range okay so be careful do not believe that Psalms are just some Holy Grail magic pill that you can take with no side effects that seems to be what most people will think I get thousands not even hundreds now I actually get thousands now of messages of people that have taken CERN's and so I can read what were their side effects what did they experience how did they feel and so even more now than before I can see that many people experience negative side effects okay so be careful don't take it obviously so if you do expect [ __ ] can go down likely going to affect your liver you will get a blood test and find out you will test your ASL ast if you had a certain number let's make up a number you were 50 for both and you take it and you get blood work done again later it's not going to be 50 it's going to be a higher number how high we don't know if I'd be a hundred it might be 51 it might be three hundred we don't know obviously goes dependent and based on your genetic predisposition to be able to handle this some people can take a shitload of SARS inside OSes and have very little to no side effects some people take a small dose and have a horrible side effects you don't know which one you are it's like any drug some people can handle it and some people can't it's just the nature of the beast if you're in that 1% that have a shitty makeup and you're just affected by it you're gonna be pissed off and I get messages from these people think of it there's probably a hundred thousand people that have taken this stuff and the people that are writing are gonna be the worst of the worse they're gonna be like I took this and oh my god I almost died because those are the people that are gonna come out you're not gonna hear a comment from I took it I had so soul results good so so this so so no one cares about that you get comments from oh my god it was a maze or oh my god I almost died that's what you get you get the higher extremes the extremes of good extremes of bad the middle it's just not reported so when somebody writes and says oh it it it added 20 pounds of muscle well that's rare and it's not for most people or somebody says it did nothing at all well that's rare - there's that 1% of people that are just poor responders don't feel anything and don't get it they might think their products fake it might be or it might be real and they just suck and have shitty ass genetics and they're not gonna grow on it and they might grow on something else it's just the way - cookie cookie crumbles ok so just be aware of that cardiovascular it's not the safest thing in the world it's not supposed to be dangerous but it's not gonna be good for your HDL LDL HDL good cholesterol okay you want a lot of that it's gonna lower it LDL bad cholesterol gonna raise it that makes the ratio of the to the good stuff less the bad stuff more the ratio gets out of whack and so it's not good for your heart overall it's not the safest thing in the world just think this was developed to try to be in a medical setting used for wasting disorders so aids or whatever osteoporosis or something they wouldn't say well if we can create this drug that will help people build muscle with no side effects at all well what could be better than that it would be the best thing since sliced bread or french toast it would be the best amazing it's not approved for human consumption yet why do you think that is because it hasn't been proven to be safe enough yet if it was they would eventually approve it because it would be the Holy Grail it would be amazing and everyone would use it and hospitals would use it the doctors would be prescribing it and they could charge ten times the amount that it costs and and pharmaceutical companies could become billionaires on it they want it to work and be approved it's not yet it's not safe yet so don't take it blood pressure it's not going to increase your blood pressure really it shouldn't I mean maybe that 1% you never know I mean really I could say everything is like 1% you never know but it shouldn't increase your blood pressure you're not gaining a lot of weight it's not retaining you a lot of water and so usually blood pressure goes up when you gain a lot of water weight and so this one doesn't do that so you shouldn't have blood pressure problems but I'm not saying you won't most people will not of course there's gonna be 1 percent or 0.1 and they're gonna write and say hey you lied I got blood pressure problem Bluff it might have been from something else you took maybe it's from the French fries you ate who knows right kidneys okay we don't really know for sure it shouldn't be an issue I haven't really seen it as being an issue yet doesn't mean that there's that small percentage of people that aren't gonna have problems with it it should be relatively safe but I don't want to just sit here and say it's perfectly safe but relatively speaking it's quite safe on that regard how does it make you feel well overall it should make you feel pretty damn good not as good as maybe LGD or rad 140 but not bad it should make you feel like [ __ ] it's not trend it shouldn't make you like in a mess but if you have a suppression you have a lower libido well that could piss you off it depends higher dose is more like you do not feel good there's other side effects we're gonna get into in a bit so I won't go right here but overall you should be in a good mood it should make you positive happy it shouldn't screw you up and be like miserable like some of the steroids will do okay okay what goals would you have to use this I would say it's not a bunker at all although I've read and you probably read oh it's good to add in a bulking cycle no like if you're bulking literally it means that you want to get a lot bigger it's not something to help you get a lot bigger although it does of course add muscle it's just there's so many other choices if it was the only choice that you could take yeah you would add it for bulking it's the only supplement in the world you would take it for everything but there's other choices that are better so why would you take this one and spend more money and take higher doses when lower doses of other products that will cost you less and maybe even have less side effects are gonna do even better so it's not for bulky it is purely for cutting this is a cutter cutting SARM for photoshoots dieting looking ripped on the beach athletic looking and so forth okay so do not take it for bulking if you do I mean it's not serving as his purpose I'd rather see somebody takes something else not that you should take anything dosages let's get right into the dosage for the girls first typically 10 to 20 milligrams a day okay 10 to 20 do people do more of course they do more is that stupid depends on your idea of stupid it's probably smarter than doing a shitload of testosterone that's gonna cause paralyzation more so so the intelligence of the person it just means like if you're trying to have less side effects and you take lgd then that seems like a smart choice to me okay it seems smart but if you're taking it and you're just abusing it and you're some like bikini girl and you think that there's no chance you're gonna get any negative side effects you don't read anything about it well that's kind of just being dumb and you're just like taking a chance with your health so I wouldn't recommend it but if you're taking lgd uh sorry if you're taking this for instead of something else that is more dangerous well that seems like a good choice okay 10 to 20 milligrams remember the half-life of this is maybe four or five maybe as long as six hours you can't take it once a day cannot take it once a day you can but then you're an idiot for sure you're stupid because it would be like eating once a day you just don't eat once and then have a huge amount of calories and then diet the rest of the day if you take this drug once a huge rise in blood values of it and then it falls when you get a huge rise that's when these side effects occur just think of it maybe this is the level of no side effects you take a SARM three times a day in low amounts you get a little rise and down rise and down below you take it once Boop too high and comes down when you get past here bad side effects keep it down there no side effects you don't want to take a lot all at once spread the dose out when in doubt spread it out okay when in doubt spread it out do not ask me how often to take it if you don't know how often spread the dose out more the more you spread it out the less chance of a problem when there is this is not a one dose a day this is a two to three dose a day so if you're taking 20 milligrams a day you need to take 10 milligrams twice a day five milligrams four times a day you know you got to spread it out twice a day dosing is the minimum for this one okay for men 25 to 75 milligrams a day and you're saying oh my god seventy-five this guy he's crazy oh he's so high in the dosage Jesus yeah no it's not that strong and trust me people are using a [ __ ] ton of drugs whether it's arm steroids or whatever 75 milligrams although it's on the high end if you read some stupid article on the Internet it's not higher than most people are taking SARS at and it's not more dangerous than a lot of the other things that people are taking so don't be like oh it's crazy to take that high most people taking peds are looking for really big results you're not gonna get big results from 25 milligrams you might if you're a girl or if you're a guy you've never taken anything in your life and you just want to add a couple pounds of muscle you know then that low dose is for you it's safer better blah blah blah but for most people they want Jack results they want to be noticeable they want to make a big difference once they leap from all natural supplements like creatine or BCA's or something then they want something that's more hardcore and as soon as you take a SARM you're no longer natty so if you're no longer laddie you're probably gonna want to take something stronger okay just putting that out there 25 to 75 so if you take 75 25 milligrams three times a day for example if you take 60 milligrams 30 milligrams twice a day if you take 50 maybe you did 30 and then 20 milligrams maybe did 25 twice a day it's up to you you I douse it twice at it but that's just me you don't have to you could don't sit three times a day five times a day it doesn't matter it doesn't matter yeah that's my say anyway the rocks is that um yeah so it doesn't really matter you can do what you want but you need to not take it once a day if you want the best results now don't be a frickin stupid-ass idiot like these people that write me and they literally ejected the [ __ ] are you freakin insane are you stupid they literally buy a freaking CIRM and it's a liquid and so they think it's injectable and so they picture it they unscrew the like my freakin popcorn shaker they unscrew it and they stick their needle in it and they suck it out and then they inject it in their body how in the world did they think that that was sterile are you stupid oh I better swab my solder up before I inject this juice that's in a bottle it's not sterile are you kidding sterile needs air seal it can't be just open and closed open it up and inject it stop being an idiot these are what I call it morons stupid if you do that I mean there's no way you should be using a SARM if you're that stupid in the first place but really just think of it people have literally done this I'm not making this [ __ ] up it's not a lie they actually have done this okay don't do something stupid like that alright let's get into some of the positive results we talked about some stupid people the positive results what are you gonna get why why am I taking this [ __ ] well a I'm getting more muscle that's the main thing that you want be more strength stronger yes lift heavier weight stronger who doesn't want to be stronger no water attention so the muscle that you do build you can see it so you do the little flex and it's there it's not covered in a layer of water and you're not puffy so dry hard lean look more vascular more ripped looking more of a dry appearance of a stage ready contest ready photoshoot ready physique it will make you look leaner than you are if you're already you know lean if you're at 8% body fat you might look 7% because you're a leaner so it's awesome if you're trying to dry out and look good and if you're on a cycle and it's summer and you're always with your shirt off and you want to look good every day and not just at the end of the cycle of 12 weeks like bodybuilders they might bulk up in the offseason they look like [ __ ] they're big bags of milk then they dye it for four months and they look good for one day that year on that one hour on state yeah one hour for three minutes on stage they look the best amazing and the rest of the year they look like [ __ ] it's not for that this is to look good all the time it's kind of an all the time good-looking type of physique from this type something okay I hope that makes sense okay it also it gives you the bigger pump in the gym and it's also going to help you train harder like bit more aggression more anger in the gym like more like yes I'm gonna lift this weight as opposed to I don't want to go to the gym he'll be able to help you go to the gym bit more kind of like my pre workout that I took thirty minutes ago I can feel it I want to go and workout and and you know just get going okay expected negative results okay here's the bad stuff okay number one to me this is the worst one really is this oppression that it can cause I know what it says it's not supposed to be suppressive but suppression is one of the expected things a lot of people write me in taking this arm and others and they get suppressed and they didn't think that it would happen and it didn't plan a PCT so you need to have a PCT plan you need to be ready for this okay so by that you might have a lower sex drive you might just feel rundown in that sense especially when you come off while you're on it you're not gonna really suffer that big of a deal even though your testes levels are lower this is kind of replacing the test so you have that aggression and stuff and it's good but then when you take the s4 away and your test is also away now before you took this thus arm you felt decent because your body made test you add it in the SARM and now you feel like Superman because you're on the SARM then the sirum goes away but your test is away both gone now you're really [ __ ] that's when it sucks and I do a lot of phone consults and almost half of them are I [ __ ] up my PCT and I didn't do this properly and I didn't do that and my sex drive is ruined and what do I do now and if you're watching the video probably think it's you but trust me I've done like 50 of these so it's you and 50 other people that have done these calls and so trust me be ready for a PCT I have a video on PCTs just copy it do the PCT in the video have it ready okay do it also the eyesight one was the scariest one for me before I ever did it I was like okay it can cause a yellow tint to your vision well anytime you see you the word vision it's scary I had laser eye surgery you know I like being able to see sight is important to me blindness scares me but really there's a yellow tint which I didn't experience blurred vision at the nighttime which I didn't experience I started in low dose and went up and I didn't get any vision issues once at all zero for me doesn't mean you won't so what I would say is to be cautious start at low dose so maybe you're only gonna start at say it's 30 milligrams you do 10 milligrams three times a day and then if your vision is fine woman maybe up the dose to 40 then up the dose to 50 and 60 and 70 do it slowly over say a few weeks and then you can become comfortable and knowing and if you get that side effect and you don't want to have that side effect then you can just stop it goes away after you you stop so it's something that although it's very scary and and you know why risk it it's not permanent so that least that's good news start on a low dose work your way up you know maybe you do one week at thirty one week at forty one week at fifty whatever I'm not gonna tell you what to do or not do just remember that is a possible side effect it not cause blindness somebody wrote on my wall I was like you idiot it was on my Instagram and they're like oh so you're not getting any of the vision blindness that it causes oh you're making it up it doesn't actually cause blindness they see somebody say that it can cause like some visual disturbances and then they exaggerate it and say it makes you blind and then they post about it and people read it and then there's a myth that's a myths or spread people make they turn one thing you say into another and then they have a myth it's like happens with my videos all the time they stretch what I say change around ask somebody else and then all of a sudden it makes me look like I'm an idiot when I'm not because I'm not saying what they said in the first place they just change the words around anyway so be careful with your vision it's not gonna make you go blind but it can cause yellow tint and some blurred vision in the nighttime especially of which I had none of that my experiences because I find that well I didn't make this video earlier because I'd never used it and although I'd read about it I'm like well I can only say so much if I haven't used it so this is what I did so I went from LGD 20 milligrams a day split into two doses 10 milligrams twice a day I did that for five days and then I switched to s4 and I started at 30 milligrams in the morning and then I went to 20 milligrams about eight hours later like afternoon type thing late afternoon so what did I notice I noticed that it wasn't as powerful as LGD I noticed that wasn't as strong as LGD I noticed it wasn't making me as awesome in the gym I noticed that wasn't as massive I didn't notice I was probably getting a little bit leaner but I was also not eating in a surplus so I mean you know take that for what it's worth now I upped the dose and I upped it to 60 so I did thirty and thirty then I upped it to forty and thirty as my max dose of which I did my last amount yesterday okay so what did I notice I noticed that within an hour one hour after taking it I definitely for sure knew I took it okay so I don't care you can believe me or not making it up no why would I make this [ __ ] up I take 40 milligrams of s4 and when I took 30 I noticed it that it was in my body I could feel it working in my body what do I mean I feel it it's like if I tense my arm I could feel that my arm tense differently I just can't explain it to people it's the same feeling I would take when I took what whinny or anavar like a more powerful feeling in my arm when I clench my fist it's just stronger steering wheel driving car just the turns it just feels more power not that I'm turning the steering wheel out a hundred pounds of pressure but it just feels like you're just stronger in your own skin notice your right away workout intensity able to push a bit harder stronger feeling it's got a short half-life okay so that's what I notice then when I take my next dose and like later in the afternoon I can again feel that same feeling so it's definitely going to give you a pre-workout boost and if you don't feel it don't think that it's just fake doesn't mean it's fake it might be baby I don't know I don't know what you're taking it might be fake or it might be you don't notice things I notice everything I drink a cup of coffee and I notice it I take free workout and I go on and ran on a video and I can feel that a whole time so anyway I am sensitive and I feel this way this is unique to me some people maybe feel the same way maybe they don't okay it definitely makes you stronger but it's not to the point of like my favorites arm okay lgd I rate better just think 20 milligrams to me of LGD is more powerful to me than 70 of s4 okay so if I was given the choice and I only had once arm to take LGD or s4 20 of that or 70 of that I would take the 20 of LGD before the 70 of s4 think of that so to me it's three times stronger at least so cost wise effective wise I can get a lot more from a lot less from now anyway the camera just stopped recording of SD cards full whatever so I'm gonna continue because I'm ready to get going I like rad 140 more I've stopped the s4 and I'm on rad 140 now I'm giving that a go I'm gonna see how that works check out my website Greg Doucet dot-com for coaching check out my IG Greg Doucet IFBB Pro I post tons of pictures we have good discussions and comments and we get through everything and that wraps it up I'm gonna bloop up some videos some other stuff you can watch for me I'm not gonna talk about what is video over here video over there watch some more of my stuff like subscribe to the channel I'm out