huh did you know how to do it you know pushing over the red thing but we were um we were talking about uh we were no we were talking about the um um lifestyles of people and we were talking about homosexual lifestyle and and you made the statement that what no female and person female and person ators but but yeah with female impersonators there's a difference between a female impersonator and a transvestite okay yeah all right yeah gay bashing but let's think for a minute between a female impersonator is an Entertainer um a transvesti is is somebody who really fulfills themselves becoming female and that can go all the way through the physical we've seen him in Key West struck down the street you know and their gold sequin evening gowns and high heeled shoes and so forth but as far as gay bashing was concerned what did you say I said I think people that get all upset about gays are trying to deny the little bit that's in them that's a good point fre you know the problem that I have and when I hear it from Trinity Broadcasting or Christian places is the fact that it is Antichrist to do that because it is Jesus Christ who makes the specific statement talking about Unix and in that time not all Unix were those who were castrated there were people who were feminite people and he makes the specific statement some are born that way from their mother's womb and that's totally you know eliminated from from from from the Christian ethic as far as understanding this particular problem some were born that way and then he he he says something else very strange he says some are made that way for the kingdom of God you know and like we were saying this morning and as some of you didn't get a chance to hear that there's three people who are homosexuals in the Christian Community that if you would take them away what would you have one of the one of the homosexuals in the Christian Community is Leonardo Da Vinci who painted the Last Supper he was not only a homosexual he was an astrologer and probably the most famous Christian painting ever made was by this guy and he was the one who painted a picture of John lying his head on jesus' breast and he was a homosexual and he painted Judas as the eighth sign of Saturn from the right he was an astrologer now there's a second homosexual very famous homosexual and Christian Michelangelo Michelangelo filled the Vatican with pictur with statues of nude men all over the place even in the even in the post PA he's got a nude guy in there and what they did probably the most one of the most famous male nude statues in the world created by Michael Angelo in order to get into the church he just titled it David there's a third and that's probably the the most interesting because you wouldn't have this Bible without this homosexual his name was King James of England he was gay so there's the three of them oh oh there's many more there's many more but I say what do you do here's you got the most famous painting The Last Supper you've got probably the most famous statue David and you got the famous King James Bible three gay guys how do you know King James was gay well because history you have to read you historical facts he was gay he was a homosexual he was a homosexual ual I mean there's nothing you know that they they didn't hide that his homosexual activities were very well known but you have to read history in order to you know fine but King James of England who was responsible for the translation of this book was gay it is yeah I know we've been having try I I think it's in I think it's that thing anyhow um those are interesting things hey you know like what what he says how do you know you have to read you have to study and that's where Christians have a problem I don't mean any aspersions on him I'm talking about Christianity in general has a problem they're not allowed to read They're not allowed to study and they're not allowed to discuss with one another the fact so they never know they have no idea no way of knowing these things there's nobody tells them they pick up the King James Bible and they say this the only true addition I seem to I kind of agree with it but that doesn't change the fact that the guy who authored it or the guy who was responsible for commissioning it was gay King James of England well and as you said Arlene there was many others who you know who took part and and were involved in these types of things and you know it's it's it's simply that it's fashionable you know you have the you have the people who shoot people in the streets today and U and then of course they're fundamentalists and then you have the fundamentalist in religion you have the forwell and the and the Robertson and they don't have to shoot people but they they manufacture all of this political hoopla and you know send the boys over there to do this thing what I thought we'd talk about for a few minutes because yes wait wait wait wait wait you can't because you got to stand up if you know cuz you see the back of your head wasn't homosexuality more acceptable then oh absolutely yeah absolutely in fact what they used to do in order to try to control the population in places like Greece is that they would ask people to abstain from having sexual intercourse with their wives and they provide little boys pedophilia was a was a very very prominent thing that went on in Greece and became you know a part of the Christian culture was the what we talked about the little boys who singing the boys choirs and so forth and so on because they didn't allow women to go on the altar so they had to have somebody to hit those soprano notes and they had little boys but pedophilia was a very prominent thing practiced by people such of the Ila Socrates and and it was just never never never never thought about anything like that in fact it was a it was it was a mark of Distinction they used to carry these kids along to in battle so you know and and and then of course when you hear a lot about it in the activity of it in some religious circles you say gez you haven't really haven't come a long way of course such a a horror like that um it's it's it's really difficult for me to understand how with any institution you can simply just throw it under the rug and go on about your business and say business as usual because Janes says and you know this is what's so important if people would get out of church and go into the library and start opening up books and look at the history of these things they probably would never go back inside the churches because they are violent corrupt places who were built on the blood and sex beyond belief and and and they talk about pornography and all this pedophilia stuff and all of this sex and all it it it was just it was rampant in the early days of of of of Church of Christianity of all of all religions I think probably the only religion that I've ever studied that seems to be free of most of the trappings that we find and we're talking about is Buddhism and of course I don't know even when you get into homosexuality if that's the case but the violent aspect of it uh seems to be pretty true uh in Buddhism they even have their um uh monks abstain from from work at least they did in the early days because they were afraid that going out and doing work in the fields they would hurt animals and and things like that you know so this this is this is the important thing this this is the point that we have gone into churches and we have taken as quote unquote gospel what was said to us by some man who heard it from somebody else who in turn was taught by somebody else who got it out of a book that has been changed 50 million times by anybody you know they just sit down and change the thing over and over again and we just accept all of this stuff as absolute truth and have no understanding where it came from and so then when you hear things like I mean this is this is the Shakra of the night evidently King James who authored this Bible was a homosexual shock but all you got to do is look at the book look it up look at a history book and there it is but nobody does that right because you're not allowed to speak those things but you have to if you if you've going to be M and what we've done we subjected a whole culture to all of this uh sexual kind of depravity and we' subjected our kids to it and I think the basis of it has been fear and guilt which we've authored mostly out of religion okay yes you have to people can't hear you yes but then do you know like historically then what happened to make it so unacceptable what do you mean to to be against the norm now homosexuality is not considered you know in in our circles as being normal okay so-called normal MH I'm not saying that that's how we feel here so do you know like in the evolution of it like what happened was did the church come in and say it was unacceptable yeah the the uh the church the church basically uh made a statement that uh the Bible is the literal and uniring word of God and there are statements in the Bible against homosexuality okay okay so that makes it evil the fact that Jesus said that there are unic born that way from their mother's womb is completely disregarded the fact the Apostle Paul says that the carnal mind is not subject to the law of God is completely disregarded and the fact that the Bible is symbolic now when you talk about homosexuality in the Bible from a spiritual standpoint you're talking about male intercours with male which would be mind intercours with the flesh basically what is then said you know you must have a wife which is male mind intercour in with female Spirit okay has nothing to do I mean just just analyze or think for a minute if indeed homosexuality is this evil then God is evil I mean because the the creation I mean they can talk to me all they want and and and you I I can line up just as many scientists to show I mean you take a who who's the perfect example Liberace could never be anything but what he was he was not a macho person he was an effeminate person and the man tried and under all types of guilt and pain he he only got married you know but why couldn't we honor the man for his talent and allow the man's life to be his own wer content with that but the guilt and the sword throwers of of religion put that man and and so many people through the guilt and all of these types of things well do you think they did a lot of it then as a cover up too coming at it like aen said so much that you know like when we see the dark side in us that we will come against it so much do you think that maybe that happened too I think there's a lot of that that goes on because if you if you look at for instance U the Evangelist uh the Swagger for instance um he was always pointing a finger at people about their sexual things and then he was sneaking out the back door you see and maybe it was a way of justifying what he was doing by pointing a finger of guilt at anybody else then you know you could justify you somehow uh I mean he didn't actually had se he what he did he would go into these motel rooms and masturbate while so then he could say well he didn't he didn't actually have physical sex so he could justify this so then he could point the finger at other people and yet he was still satisfying whatever problems he had okay there's that then uh there's this this terrible m about giving you know slamming people for how much money they get and and I think what alen said just is justifiable in there too because so many so many of them are stealing it and and you know and that's been proven and shown on television here you had a guy like Jim Baker who had a lot of good qualities to him but you know what did he do he would say Albert if you'll if you'll give $1,000 we have records here of people who have called us and said that God has multiplied this 10 times oh here's a lady that gave $1,000 and her husband just got a new job I'm sure that happened happened if you have 50 million people watching something there's somebody who gave $1,000 and their husband got a new job but everybody else who got a $1,000 got ripped off you know but that's you know and that and and and but but you you cover this stuff by trying to find some spiritual motive and spiritual reasoning behind it u in in the question of homosexuals I mean in in in the church you know hey in the Catholic Church there's evidently a tremendous population of homosexuals in the church uh which is fine you know but just admit it you know don't try to say does it doesn't exist because it does you know and if you just come out and say well this is the way it is and honor these people and let them you know Express themselves fine who cares it's their business but when you try to cover it up and then you have all these hideous things happening behind the altar with pedophilia and all of this stuff uh then it traces itself right back to the to the beginnings of where it came from and and and basically the the the hot bed of pedophilia child abuse was Greece where you know much of this Christian religion came from you know it's hot bed of it so you know who knows but it's I think it's an interesting it's an it's an interesting thing for a period of time to have developed where people can start holding these people accountable we haven't reached that stage people are still afraid of pastors and ministers and of angelist and so forth but you know they're at a point now of of of just almost self-destruction with the violence that's going on among them and you know it's it's it's time to start holding them accountable okay all right uh anything else yes oh wait you have to uh stand up and yes and basically uh didn't the Catholics emphasize procreation was very important for it's extremely important that's extremely important and that's a good point but that is not uh only in Catholicism Mormonism uh allowed people to have more than one wife because you need to build you know in other words it would be if I if we had a structured Church in here I mean we don't know who comes in the door who goes out the door you know but if we had a structure it would be great you know if you encourage people to have four or five wives and bring them down here and you you build a tremendous uh you know group of people so but that's true procreation was a was a very important part and uh basically the Catholic Church's philosophy As I understood it and I I can be wrong because I'm I'm stepping over the line a little bit and I haven't studied this one but that sexual intercourse should be only for that purpose and that is is that right and that yeah only for the purpose of having children and and and you know of course that goes just entirely counter to you to Nature uh and and so it's never been able to work and then within the structure of the of the church itself you have these these terrible things which have happened of course in our culture today we've gotten a little bit out of hand with people being hypnotized and you know remembering that 20 years ago somebody you know you know so that's the way things go but uh it's it's an interesting thing um well we're going to do Buddha what whatever little time we have to do anything how long have we been speaking here 45 minutes no have we really well it's 20 after yeah well don't tell them out there because it could be 2 o'clock in the afternoon let let me just show you something that's interesting and I'll um you know it it won't take U it won't take take you won't take us very long I wanted to share something with you um in Buddhism that I think is interesting it's very short and yet uh we did a long time ago I think you'll find it from um and this is the Ascension of Buddha uh Buddha had his Ascension about a thousand years before Jesus had his Ascension okay um and it says in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with the in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air okay now we're going to rise and meet the Lord in the air very important when you see something like that that you understand the five stages of Consciousness that start with earth water air fire and renewed mind the third stage of Consciousness is air so when it says we're going to rise to meet Christ in the air where did Jesus say we would find him in ins side of us he didn't say anything about being out over Kennedy airport or up in the stratosphere he knew better we we say we will rise to meet Jesus in the air means you rise to the third stage of Consciousness in where you will meet Jesus which is very interesting now looking at first Thessalonians where it says we arise to meet him in the air shakuni Buddha taught everything hinged on an event in history called the ceremony of the air okay the ceremony of the air and it's a vision of shakim Yuni Buddha and how he foresaw this beauty of the Lotus Sutra which is the study of of of of pain and suffering and an inner renewal encompassing the entire world and there's a ceremony when all who follow and chant and end endlessly lift themselves in Consciousness come to this mountain and the name of the mountain is called Eagle's Peak that's where the ceremony took place Eagle's Peak okay and what happens now this being the um stage of of Consciousness that we're talking about shakuni ascends into the air himself okay in exactly the same way as Jesus did you know lift off and off he went but of course Buddha Ascension was about a thousand years before Jesus now as he goes and he's raising himself up there's this magnificent treasure tower now this treasure Tower is encrusted with dazzling jewels and the tower is suspended in the air and shakim Muni Buddha goes up like going up in an elevator to meet it and as shakim Muni gets up near the treasure Tower the do is open and revealing the great goding look what his name is Taho whether he was any relation to the Lake Tahoe I don't know but there he was Tahoe was sitting in the Treasure Tower as the jewel doors open up and Tahoe is seated inside the tower and shakuni Buddha enters the tower and sits at the right hand of Taho okay sits at the right hand of Taho now it says in Mark 1462 you shall see the son of man sitting on the right hand of power and coming in the Clouds Of Heaven there's a real problem here okay let me show you the problem which has been totally misinterpreted and misunderstood in religious circles forever and that is the phrase son of man it does not mean Jesus okay the son of man is not Jesus the son of man is The Offspring of the mind you shall see what that which is the Mind those which are the desires of the Mind those which are the new Enlightenment of the Mind mind sitting at the right hand of power which is the right hemisphere of the brain coming in the Clouds Of Heaven which is the Unseen spirit in the higher level of Consciousness that's what son of man is okay Mark 16:19 it says after the Lord had spoken unto them he was received up in heaven and sat at the right hand of God here's shakuni being received up into the tower and received at the right hand of Tahoe okay now we have Jesus rising into the air here we have shakuni ascending into the air and you remember Thessalonians and at this point say shakuni begins to speak to the universe on those things that will happen okay and this is what shakim Muni said those who try to teach the inner truth will be harassed by three types of enemies now remember shakim Muni is in the tower the doors have opened and he speaks to the universe he says the first enemy that you're going to have when you try to speak the truth is you're going to have ignorant people people okay people who don't know people who have no idea and people who think you're making stuff up they don't know they they just have nothing to no no idea what second one arrogant and cunning priests religious people enemies of God he called them and the third one are religious leaders who fearing they will lose their status or profit mislead the people to attack those who teach this arrogant and cunning priests ignorant people and religious leaders who fearing they will lose their status or profit mislead the people to attack those who teach this truth and he went on to prophesy that suddenly these batas which is which which is what's happening now the these entities that enter into the mind that cause people to reach out to one another I mean you know don't lose sight of what's Happening Here in in spite of the fact of what you've seen with this this guy shooting up that mosque in in Israel and in spite of the fact of what you seen of of this guy shooting those those kids and those Jewish kids you have today you had the Jews and the Arabs coming together in Muslims in New York and you have the uh the the Jews are doing everything in Israel to get the talks back on it will happen it's it's it's but all of these things are going to be set because there are so many people people who can't deal with it and they and in every single case the violent comes from fundamentalists every single case what they are it does not speak of the majority of the people of the Muslim Community because they're not interested in such things like this but there are these people who are Rel and what a fundamental Bas a religious person who aligns themselves with politics and the other they the troubles now what he said that this beautiful thing will start happening to the Earth 2,000 years after his death which is now which is now approximately now and so then the ceremony of the air comes to an end and all returns to the Earth the tower disappears and you know life goes on and and and and I thought it was a very interesting but there was something else interesting too that I I thought I would share with you concerning shakuni Buddha and one of the things that um he talked about was that he said what will happen is that there will be a tremendous understanding what he called the latter day of the law the latter day of the law Buddha talked about this a thousand years before the Bible was ever considered the latter day of the law the Mormons call themselves Latter Day Saints that's Buddhists that's Buddhist Zechariah 10:1 refers to the time of the latter Reign that's Buddhist because was shakim Buddha who first talked to the latter day and and and basically what he's talking about is he's talking about the time now and he talks about that the Lord will make bright clouds and showers and talking about those things which we start to find within ourselves those things that we start to realize within ourselves as being the truth and remember what we talked about when we started this and this this is the this is the essence of what You' you've got to understand because it doesn't make any difference anymore concerning religion religion is at death's door religion is at a point where these people are in a in a in a in a death throw they're absolutely self-destructive because they've accomplished nothing and now they've gotten to the point where they're just shooting one another but remember remember this and it's very important within you is the Kingdom of Heaven that's what Jesus said but that heaven is above you Earth is here there's nothing connecting the two you can stay down here and pray all night long and all you're doing is mouthing words and do you know what the Apostle Paul said the kingdom of God is not in word but in power so the point is how are you going to reach that how see prayer what you call prayer is simply a matter of Earth communicating with Heaven okay and it's inside of you so how do you touch that you're down here praying and praying and praying and nothing's happening the world is an absolute Cesspool because that's all they've done they set they've never been able to touch all you say well the Buddhists have done it and some of the Christians have done it those are not the power people those are not the people that have their hands on on on the on the buttons of industry and all of these things those aren't the people that have their hands on the buttons of war the people that have had their hands on the buttons of War and the buttons of Industry are the ones that go into churches and they say let's pray and they're down here talking and never ever ever getting anywhere near to touching this up here which is that higher part of the mind you've got to raise yourself up there and the only way is that Jesus said to do it is be persistent persistent persistent persistent and you've got to touch and you've got to energize that and once you then energize that what happens it's simple if you're an electrician you've made a circuit you've opened a line you've connected and now stuff can start to flow it's an electrical circuit and it's what it is it has nothing to do with with with religion say and so it's very very important then as as as we talk whether we talk about Buddha whether we talk about the things we were discussing here earlier that we start to try to get together and understand what do we need to do stay away from religious groups stay away from Christian organizations stay away from Buddhist organiz stay away from anything that's an organization and stay as an individual because there's a violence that is beyond belief and emanating out of religion and it's a and it's something that the only possible way that this world is going to find itself back to Christ is by each individual person ascending into a harmony with nature and finding that in obedience to the way Jesus taught and this is what I will stand any day of the week and I will I will call anybody down that the failure of Christianity is because they have taken an antichrist perspective of not doing what Jesus said to do and that is meditation there's only one way that you can get from Earth to Heaven meditation nothing else works it's not possible any other way and when you understand that you kind of see why you know with all the praying that's been done and we've had churches on every street corner and we've had television stations with all kinds of evangelists and and you've got all kinds of prayer groups and with all of that it is absolute it's bizarre to me how violent and how corrupt the world has and everything is here isn't it the possibilities of Heaven are right here but it's everybody following a group and once you join that group and once you join that church remember you got 50 million 50 billion people who disagree with you and now you got people that'll shoot you they had it today I don't know if you were watching it today that somebody defaced a a Jewish uh synagogue spraying R paint they spread ra sprayed red paint over the place you know and and it and and and you can and you can just see it where it comes from you you see the kids over in pal throwing rocks and shooting guns what because of their group instead of but if each person functions solely as an individual you know and then they're able to move and flow in harmony with with everybody instead of saying hey I'm part of this group or you're part of that group if you're not part of any group then you can work for peace but if you're part of a group you can't because there's too many other groups that disagree with you so it's your your responsibility is and then in speaking to other people what do you believe say I don't believe anything I just am I am part of the I am part of the earth I am part of Heaven I am part of the universe when I went down to um Dave Preston's Funeral and the room was filled with black people there was a couple hundred black people there I said I want to make one thing clear I'm a Christian I'm a Buddhist I'm a Muslim and I'm a Hindu and get we get safe you know where I'm coming from that's where I'm coming from and that's what you got to be and then who can fight with you you can't because you're part of everything but if I say I'm a Christian there was some guys with round colored caps on the top of their head bang I'm isolated from them you see so I am that I am that's what God Said what was his name I am he didn't say he was a Christian he didn't say he was a Jew and you see and understand something too we talked about it this morning sometimes you look and say geez these Muslims what are they so ticked off about look at they're they're shooting up people and look at these people in Palestine okay your God the god that your religion created ordered your chosen people to to go in and pillage and rape and steal their land they got a right to be mad I mean I can show you in your holy book where your holy God told your chosen people to go in and pillage and kill and leave nothing standing and take the virgins for yourself and kill everything else I can show you the book in the Bible and you wonder why they're ticked off would you throw rocks certainly you throw rocks and and and the The Who did the Christian side with the chosen people they took everything they got by vot by force by violence raping pillaging looting and then they wonder why these people are mad I'll tell you right now they don't have any power but if the American Indians had a power they'd have a right they were ripped off big time by this great wonderful Christian government gave $24 for Manhattan is this something you can't even get lunch in Manhattan for $24 you rip people and I told you what I I used to go to the movies Joe and I rooted for John Wayne to kill all the Indians I didn't know what the heck they were mad at they're coming down with their Spears and swords or their arrows and killer Here Comes John Wayne yay the government brainwashed me because the government never told me what they were mad about I didn't know we were there ripping off taking everything that there was there that was theirs it was their property somebody comes into your house and says I'm taking this and and what is it and then the cops come and say get out the man wants to have your property right well yeah well just as bad so don't I just beg of you to stay as an individual and follow your own course and don't get involved with these violent religious organizations and and and and just be a member of everything and including vegetarians and horticulturists and everything else he just just just just just be yourself and then you won't be in any trouble and and and then you'll be ready for the Christ who has returned I Gody did you see this guy at television at TBN today they this this fat guy gets on and he he's got his big church here and he's saying they want to say that Jesus has been seen in California I tell you Jesus is not in California and this why he's not in California Charle is in see you guys don't understand that Jesus says at that time you will know I am in the father you and me and I in you if there's anybody in California he's in them but but see they don't they won't read what he says they don't want to know this they're waiting for the coming of the Lord to rule and Reign for a thousand years and what's the Lord say my kingdom is not of this world the kingdom does not come so you can see it because the kingdom is within you oh rip it out we don't want to pay attention to that we don't I wonder if it was hard to learn to talk like that huh I wonder if it was hard to learn to talk like that they learn that in the Seminary school or Cemetery school oh yeah yeah just don't get involved with them you know let them let them fall apart I love see I follow Jesus Christ you know what Jesus Christ said about them they said oh Jesus look at that beautiful Church you know what he said ah for [ __ ] that there's not going to be one rock left standing on the other he let it fall he said don't look at that in other words don't get involved with it what did he do he went to the mountains soon as the crowds came around they said let's sing Amazing Grace he says Get Lost he went to the mountains That's my kind of guy that's the kind of guy you can follow you go to the mountain with him sit around a campfire listen to him but don't listen to these people he never did little different tonight I don't even know what we did but whatever we did we did and thank you for uh sharing the time with us and uh