ification services to continue in English press one if you are calling with questions regarding economic impact payments otherwise known as stimulus payments or the advanced child tax credit please visit www.irs.gov for the latest information if you are requesting an employer identification number for an entity organized outside the United States press one your call may be monitored or record for quity purposes please hold while your call is transferred thank you for calling the Internal Revenue Service my name is Mr my ID number is 1 42711 99 are you going today to apply for an employer identification number uh no I'm not I just have a a general question for you if you don't mind assisting me I'm sorry if I came to the wrong location uh it's uh well I assist clients with obtaining EIN numbers uh that are foreigners so my clients are from Canada Ghana they're from all over the world and so a couple of clients uh oh uh can you hear me okay I can I said where are the business form that you're calling in regards to well I'm not calling in regards to a particular business is it okay if I ask you a general question is that okay it depends where the business is formed so if you can answer the question well the business was formed outside of the United States does that help you I'm happy to help yes that does help me thank you for answering the question now thank you okay so I'll continue so uh my question is uh a couple of clients received uh EIN numbers that were they had different prefixes meaning some of the EIN numbers uh started with the number 30 some of them started with the number 61 um and it's my understanding that for foreign uh entities uh those EIN numbers begin with the prefix 98 is that true or not true based on your knowledge no that's true it's true usually you're talking about sound like domestic businesses sure United States okay so if an error was made on the part of the IRS in uh assigning those EIN numbers how might I inform my clients to make those speak with 36 they sound like domestic EIN numbers you need to call the domestic Ein line since businesses are formed within the US okay uh but the businesses were formed outside of the United States but they were still assigned domestic not those not part those numbers now again International Ones Will begin with 98 sometimes 99 but not 36 not 61 okay correct so you're GNA to call the domestic line in the future and I'm going to need to give you their phone number and then I'll tell you how can possibly get that update okay can I can I speak so I have a question so why would my clients reach out to the domestic IRS if they're foreigners I can't explain that man but I can say that your business is a domestic business is based off those um EIN numbers and just because somebody is foreign doesn't mean that the business isn't domestic they could have llc's that are in the US that are Oran organized in the US that's a domestic business no matter what nationality they are sure I'm in agreement with you but the businesses were formed outside of the United States how did you submit these applications uh my client submitted them via fax okay then something on there showed that it was a domestic business it wasn't an international either way that's a domestic Ein you're going to need to call the domestic line to questions and those in the future I'll give you their phone number and then I'll I'll tell you on possibly how you can get that updated okay yeah sure give me uh that phone number uh I'm ready when businesses are formed within the US its states that means its territories or the District of Columbia it's 800 829 4933 and then they're open Monday through Friday 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Eastern through Pacific time zones now to update any type of entity information such as like trying to say hey the business is actually formed outside the US you'll need to write into the entity Department to do that give you their address and then you want to write a general correspondent of course um you want to make sure you're authorized right on behalf of these clients um depending on how their their clients of you um of course the third party doesn't me on the ss4 form only gives you authorization until the Ein is created after that it's kind of their responsibility unless you have the the 8821 or 2848 so just so you're aware sure they you will want to write a general correspondence of course they include their title their Ein and then they'll say what happens that hey we called um on this date Mr Heath let us know that yes it is correct that um based off of that Ein the beginning of it it it does seem that it is a domestic business you want that updated to an international one and then they will either let you know if they're able to do that or not and also just include any type of supporting documentation to them um letting them know that hey know this actually was an international one and I would also double check with your clients too I have done that and so what I did I I apologize I didn't mean to cut you off I'm so sorry about that um and so I asked the clients to send me a copy of their SS fors and I compared their SS fors now I have some foreign clients that were given the exact same information provide well not the exact same obviously because these are different clients but the uh questions filled out on the SS fors were similar and yet one client was given a domestic and the other was given a foreign so that is why I'm calling to find out why the inconsistencies um when these ss4 are faxed over like I know we don't have an ss4 in front of us to be able to compare and contrast but the information on the SS fors are for a foreign trust establishment same information obviously different for different clients meaning the countries are different but one is given a domestic and the other is given a foreign um Ein so I would need to reach out to the entity department and request that these entities be updated well not me but my clients do is there a phone number or an address to that department there is an address I'm ready to give it to you okay I'm ready thank you the first line Internal Revenue Service the second line is the word stop and then space 6273 third line below that you're going to put the word o in and then Utah 84 201 84201 okay so I have IRS stop 6273 that's an Ogden Utah 84201 and so just create a letter with the information maybe attach a copy of the ss4 I need to give you before we continue I apologize can you repeat that I still have more information to okay sure I'm sorry about that go ahead with the additional information below the tip code you're going to want to put attention BMF that stands for business Master file space entity space function and then the address I gave you is for international applicants your EIN based off of the the code of beginning to sound like they're have states attached to them with that being said there's different addresses based off the states but since you're saying they're International I'm just going to give you the international address for now and then I just wanted to to let you know now what was your next question okay I'm sorry you gave me you said attention and then I did not hear you after that after that point e n s e e as in Echo n is in November s is in Sam is in bra Mike okay space entity space function that's who they're going to also be addressing themselves to on the correspondence okay function BMF entity function they have 30 days to do you certify the mail when you send it in 30 days they have 30 days I apologize to you can you repeat that yep they have 30 days to respond to respond certify the mail when you send the letter in okay BMF has 30 days to respond yeah the entity Department okay that's 30 days to respond 30 days to respond okay that's why I say make sure to certify your mail so you know they got very good thank you so much okay so IRS stop 6273 Ogden Utah 84201 attention BMF um Bravo mike foxtrot entity function do I have that correct kinda so again it's Internal Revenue Service not just IRS so make sure you split that out Sure Stop 6273 84201 attention BMF entity function okay understood got it okay is there anything else that I'm missing no I would just be sure to of course include any type of documentation that you can showing that it actually is a warant business sure understood okay and what was your name I'm sorry can I have your name Mr Heath Mr Heath okay h e a t h you got it okay can I have your agent number Mr Heath one z z 42799 thank you so much I greatly appreciate your time you have a good day you too thank you byebye they are a uh shs