foreign [Music] I'm Hodge tiger one of the group Partners at y
combinator today I'm going to talk about whether you should start a startup because YC invests
in startups so early I've spent a lot of time with people who aren't yet sure if they should
start a company or not I've helped many people including my own friends and family think about
this decision at my intended audience for this talk is anyone who doesn't feel ready to start
a startup today but thinks they may want to one day in the future I'm going to break down the
topic of whether you should start a startup into two parts first we'll talk about which types of
people seem best suited to being startup Founders and help you figure out if you might be one of
them second we'll talk about how you might best prepare yourself for becoming a startup founder
in the future let's start by helping you figure out if you're the kind of person who should become
a startup founder or not I really wish there were simple test you could take that would give you a
clear and correct answer to that question I've now worked with almost a thousand startup Founders as
a group partner at YC and I still get surprised by which people take to Startup life like a duck
to water and which ones struggle to adapt now you might find this surprising if your image of
startups is based on the way famous Founders are often depicted in books or movies these depictions
can make it seem that if you're not a ruthless brilliant programmer like Mark Zuckerberg in The
Social Network movie or a charismatic product genius like Steve Jobs in one of the many books or
movies about him you probably aren't cut out to be a startup founder now I can't deny it that being
a brilliant programmer or a charismatic product genius will certainly make it easier to be a
successful startup founder but I can say that after working with many successful Founders
there are many more different types of people who succeed as startups with different strengths
than just those stereotypes as an investor my job is to pick which people will make great startup
Founders and yet even after 15 years of starting and investing in startups I still get surprised
by who turns out to be a great startup founder that means it's going to be hard for you to know
for sure if you're suited to being one you might think you could just look at how well someone has
done in school or at work and assume success there will lead to success of startups that's definitely
what I thought when I first started working at YC in 2010 and began reading YC funding applications
for the first time after I started working with more startups though I realized that these signals
mattered much less than I'd expected they would when you're working on a startup you have to
put in Blood Sweat and Tears to convince even a single user to care about trying your product let
alone convincing the first 10 or 100 you have to push through a lot of rejection to get there and
because this is your startup all of that rejection feels very personal in a way it doesn't when
you're working at a Fan Company building a product for someone else it takes a lot of resilience
to make it through this initial struggle to get your early users and that's the quality I think
is most important for startup Founders to have resilient people are suited to startups and should
definitely become Founders but how do you know if you have enough resilience to be a startup founder
when I first started working at yce I thought I could use confidence as a proxy for resilience I'd
assume that if someone projected confidence like speaking with conviction being high energy during
our funding interviews they were likely to be a resilient founder the more Founders I worked with
though the more I realized this was also wrong it turned out that someone could appear very
confident initially but not be resilient when their startup hit roadblocks conversely some of
the quietest and least confident seeming Founders at first turned out to be the most resilient
Founders I'd go on to work with many eventually taking their companies public this is Saji the
founder of benchlink I met him when we funded benjling in 2012. benjling is now worth over
six billion dollars and Sagi has grown into a formidable founder and CEO but I remember when
we first interviewed him and his co-founder Corey they were both softly spoken engineers and we
were all concerned they wouldn't be suited to working on benchling because benchling's idea
was to sell software to biotech companies and pharmaceutical companies to make money and we
weren't sure that they would be good at that kind of Enterprise sales this concern was
shared by investors at demoday who worried that they wouldn't be able to get those biotech or
pharmaceutical companies to pay for the benchling software and benjling struggled to raise very
much seed funding at demoday sales did turn out to be a real struggle for benchlink in fact over a
year after they'd graduated from YC benchling was still not making any Revenue though they did
have some enthusiastic grad students as free users and the product continued getting better
it took them almost another year that's now two years after ycee to start doing sales and making
any Revenue now benchling is on calls to become a public company someday and has many of the
world's top biotech and pharmaceutical companies as customers looking back I always had confidence
that Sagi was a good engineer but I could not have predicted back when we funded him in 2012 that he
would have the resilience to overcome that amount of rejection and transform himself into the leader
of a company that took many years to become great at Enterprise sales but what I haven't shared
with you are the stories of many other Founders who seemed equally talented at first when we
first funded their companies but turned out not to have the same amount of resilience as these
Founders did I've thought a lot about how to tell the difference between people who have this kind
of startup resilience and those who don't I've wondered if maybe having the right motivations or
reasons to start a company mean you're more likely to have this special resilience over time though
I've decided that this also doesn't matter as much as I had thought I think there are many perfectly
legitimate motivations to start a company for example it's become popular to say that you
shouldn't start a company just to make money that's considered a somewhat flimsy motivation but
I actually think it's fine to start a startup to become rich startups are one of the few ways
to make life-changing amounts of money in a relatively short period of time if the desire to
make money gets you started then great go for it I also think that simply being curious about
what it's like to found a startup is a fine initial motivation to start one actually doing
a startup is the only way to know for sure if you'll enjoy it the reason I have conviction
that your initial motivations don't matter so much is that I've seen motivation to change over
time I've seen Founders who started out a company with a plan to sell it within a year change
their mind as they kept working the company and they're still working on that same startup
a decade later and it's now a public company this means that your initial motivations to
start a startup aren't as important as what those motivations might change into over time in
order to keep working on a startup and keep going through those dark periods that every startup
experience is you need enduring motivations and I think the best ones are to be genuinely
interested in the problem you're working on and love the people you're working with we'll talk
more about finding those later so instead of introspecting too much on if you'll make a good
startup founder I'll offer some practical advice if you are curious about what it'd be like to
start a company start by asking yourself what do I have to lose now I mean this question not
as a rhetorical one but as a very practical one figure out what the worst case scenario looks
like if you started a startup and decide if you can live with that it's probably going to
take at least a year for you to have enough data to tell if the startup you're working
on is promising enough to keep working on in the worst case you'll shut down the company
without having earned much or any salary for that year can you live without worst case
the calculus here is different for everyone if you're about to graduate college taking a year
after graduating to work on a startup is not a big deal those job offers will still be waiting for
you in a year but if you've been a Fang employee for the past nine years and you're in line for a
big promotion this year then maybe you stand to lose a lot by spending the next year working on a
startup instead asking yourself if you can handle the worst case is the best way to know if you
should start a startup be honest with yourself if you can't actually handle the worst case then your
own constant anxiety will probably self-sabotage your startup efforts when you're thinking about
the worst case scenario of working on a startup you should Factor something else into the equation
you will learn a lot from starting a company I don't think enough people factor in how valuable
this learning is when they're doing their worst case scenario analysis as a startup founder you're
responsible for making everything happen and that means you get to do lots of different types
of work you'll have to do some amount of sales product and customer support all at once this can
be very clarifying in helping you figure out what type of work you enjoy and where you might want to
focus your career even if the startup doesn't work out some people start a company that doesn't work
and then they jump straight back into starting another one because they want to learn from their
mistakes others decide they actually really enjoy specializing in doing one thing really well and
they join a company where they can do just that the startup experience can really improve your
career opportunities even if the startup doesn't succeed my second startup triple bite use software
to help companies identify and hire great people I work with hundreds of employers as they search
for the best talent and I found that many of them were explicitly looking to hire people who
had previous startup experience they believe they showed evidence of being a self-starter and
being able to take initiative and Lead projects some of the most successful YC companies have
actually built their hiring processes around this knowledge Rippling a 10 billion dollar company
founded by Parker Conrad also a YC company hires former Founders and puts them in charge of entire
product divisions usually we love hiring former Founders to run specific product lines and and
build them and and really run them as general managers we've been you know really successful at
recruiting I think we have Lao now probably around 50 former Founders that work at rip Lane at YC
we often see startup Founders leave this thought up if it doesn't work out and go on to join a
more successful YC company this is Nick Grandy YC funded his first startup wonderbar in 2008.
that startup shut down but he went on to join another YC company you may have heard of Airbnb
as his first employee that of course worked out great and after many years at Airbnb he left
to start another YC company out school which is now valued at over 3 billion I share these
stories to show how career progressions are not always perfectly linear introducing some
Serendipity and meeting smart ambitious people can completely transform your career and being
a startup founder is a great way to do exactly that okay so let's say you do decide you can
live with the worst case of doing a startup but you're not ready to do one right now how can you
best prepare yourself to start one in the future to actually start a company you'll want two things
an idea and a co-founder now sometimes an idea and co-founder both come to you quickly and you're Off
to the Races there's lots of great startup content out there about how to start a company once you're
ready but let's talk about what to do if it will take you some time to get to that point I'd start
by encouraging you to not think of finding ideas and co-founders as two separate tasks it's hard
to think up good ideas yourself also your ideas will start out being vague and fuzzy more like
a hunch or an Impulse than a clearly formed idea and you'll go through seven iterations of fleshing
it out into something more tangible and concrete having someone to talk through that initial
idea or impulse with and debate and discuss is important and the best person to do that with
is your co-founder I find my best ideas come to me during conversations with smart people so I'd
start by thinking about who do you know that you enjoy talking about ideas with in college these
are often the people you'll go to when you're stuck on a hard problem or they are the people
you most enjoy working on group assignments with at work these are the colleagues who you find
make you the most productive and help you do your best work I'd see these people out and start
having conversations with them about ideas or technologies that you find interesting talk about
products you use every day that you admire or are frustrated by talk about Technologies
you think are underrated today and why flesh your thoughts out and debate them spend
the time between these conversations doing your own reading and research to learn more about the
topics you find interesting if you're a curious person this will seem natural to you anyway all
of this primes your mind to more easily notice and think of potential startup ideas and it helps
you get to know your friends or colleagues better as potential co-founders if you're struggling to
think of people you enjoy talking about ideas with then you probably need to change your environment
and meet some new people if you really want to start a company one day it's best to choose an
environment where you will be around many people who might someday be your co-founder I think the
best environment for this is working at a startup you both get to see how a startup works from
the inside and your colleagues will be less risk-averse than the average Fang employee so
if you're in college I'd recommend finding a startup to work at after graduation or if you had
a fan company now think about leaving to join a startup as an intermediate step to starting your
own someday once you're around smart people who you enjoy talking about ideas with I'd recommend
you start experimenting with turning these ideas into side projects at some point during these
conversations you'll eventually say something like huh like it'd be cool if someone built X and
that's the moment to stop and think about how you could be the one to build X is there a simple
first version you could build over a weekend or can you find other people who might be users and
Pitch them on the idea to see how they react keep pulling on this thread until you've come up with a
plan to turn this idea into something real however small it is right now you're not trying to launch
the next unicorn you're just getting used to the experience of turning ideas into reality and
experiencing the thrill of launching something turn your idea into something real you'll
need the skills to actually build them if you're not a programmer then either you need
to learn how to program or find a co-founder who is a programmer my advice speaking from experience
is someone who started his first startup without being able to code you start learning to code you
only need to learn enough to build a version one of your ideas once you're around smart people
and you're working on some side projects how do you know when it's time to take the leap
and quit your job to start a company while it'd be great if one of your side projects started
getting explosive traction and made the decision easy for you you can't rely on that happening if
you're serious about starting a company someday even if you launch your side projects and get some
early users the feedback you get will be mixed it's not uncommon for the early use of any product
to span the spectrum of being delighted appalled and indifferent towards a product to judge how
promising your side project is as a startup idea I'd use some advice from my y combinator partner
Paul bukhai he says that it is better to make a product that a few people really love than one a
lot of people are indifferent Awards if your side project elicits a deep reaction from someone the
kind where they can legitimately say that doing something very differently as a result of your
product existing then you may be onto something a single passionate user of a crude prototype that
was hacked together in a weekend means so much more than a million sign-ups on a waitlist for
something that doesn't exist yet my main advice to you would be to think less about how well your
side projects are going and think more about how much you enjoying the process of thinking up
ideas and turning them into something real are you learning new things and finding yourself energized
contrast this feeling with your day job if you find your job is draining but you have energy
to work on your side projects on evenings and weekends that's a sign it may be time to quit and
work on your own ideas pay particular attention to how much you enjoy working with your side project
collaborators if you enjoy working with them and you both want to be startup Founders recognize how
rare that is having a great co-founder who wants to do a startup is a fantastic reason to quit and
start one to finish my advice is one don't worry too much about your initial motivations or reasons
to start a company those can change over time simply being curious about the experience
of starting a startup is enough to get going think about the worst case scenario if you did
start a company and be sure you can live with that if you don't yet have an idea or co-founder start
looking around for smart people to talk about ideas with and launch some side projects
with actually launch those side projects however small to get the experience of turning
ideas into reality and if you find someone you really enjoy working with side projects with and
you both want to start a company make the jump I really hope you do and I hope we get to work
together at YC Community someday thanks so much [Music]