Kareena Kapoor Khan's Podcast Insights

How do you feel now when you look back at your career? My biggest asset has been my confidence. People feel that I have inspired people or Geet has inspired people, that character so much. But the Geet that she thinks with her heart, you don't see that nowadays. Even in the Gen Z I feel. Where do you get your gossip from? I think from Instagram these days. What is Kareena the mom doing for her kids? In terms of what do you keep telling them? Right now it's just like don't fight with each other. Wait till the time they discover WWE. They have because Taimur already has. So he's wearing his gloves and he's like, come on, come on. How do you dress at home? I dress like, I've been like, I'm good. So strange. Saif today is like, God, to go to an event, so many people, so many clothes. What was the most attractive thing at first when you got to know Saif Ali Khan? I think I'm still discovering Saif. Really? Yeah. You ever felt lonely, like throughout this journey? A little bit. And of course, I think people will never really understand what you are feeling at that time. Because sometimes you have to do so many things for others, no matter what you are going through. That you are dying from 102 fever, but there is no one with you. They don't care. There's really not much to say in this intro. It's Kareena Kapoor Khan on The Ranveer Show. Absolutely beautiful, in-depth conversation. I honestly feel that there's very few Indians who've reached an out-and-out iconic. status and they've usually reached that point because of years of hard work years of self conditioning years of sacrifice that's what we tried speaking about today with kareena kapoor khan but it's also a fun conversation you'll get an insight into her mind into her heart and hopefully her soul her new film crew is releasing in theaters on the 29th of march make sure you go check it out but for now It's Kareena Kapoor Khan on The Ranveer Show. Ladies and gentlemen, today it's a beautiful day because the sun is shining outside the studio and inside the studio. We have Kareena Kapoor with us. Thank you. Kareena Kapoor Khan. Yes. How are you? Very well, very happy to be here talking to you Ranveer and it's always nice because talking to you makes me feel like I've known you forever, somehow. Even when you came on my show, we met for the first time actually there. I somehow feel like I've always known you. I feel the same. And it's not something I'm saying to just warm you up and to break ice here. Yeah. But I felt it was very easy speaking with you for some reason. I don't know why. And I'd probably say that seeing Kareena Kapoor's career from the outside was really inspirational. Because since I was a kid, I was very messed up and deep. So I would see it and I think that there's a lot of hard work and discipline that's going on here. But it's all behind the scenes. Yeah, it's all behind the scenes. Everything should be behind the scenes. How do you feel now when you look back at just your career? I just look back at it as like, you know, I've done so many things that I've really wanted to do and enjoyed doing. I'm very, very lucky and one of those lucky few that I have actually enjoyed being on set every minute that I have from the age of 17 today. I'm 43 and I think that journey and that every day of me being in front of the camera, being on set, meeting my actors, directors, playing different roles has been, I think, something that has just given me so much happiness and so much joy. And I'm very lucky that I love my job. Because if you don't really love what you're doing, it's very tough to keep doing it, to go ahead with it. And I feel most people somehow don't really get to enjoy their jobs. Have you loved it throughout? I think I've loved it even before I face the camera. Because I think acting is a ghost, it's a intoxication in a good sense. And that is actually like a feeling of like, you know, that trance. I feel that trance every time I'm in front of the camera. That's why every time you see a shot of mine. I'm giving it my 100%. I'm giving it my best because I love it so much. Have you seen this Pixar film called Soul? called soul s-o-u-l no i haven't okay i highly recommend it okay i recommend you watch it with your kids like oh nice yeah of course but it's a very spiritual film oh nice and they talk about a state of flow in it and i've spoken about this a lot on the show it's basically what you're saying right right the best acting and best art always comes out of a deeper place yeah of course i think so and a deep place of like wanting to do your best giving your best somehow Have you ever had a role where you've really really had to go extremely deep within your own head to pull out that performance? Or do all your roles come out of like a similar place of just being Kareena Kapoor Khan? No, I think most people like to feel that because I make a lot of things look easy. Yeah. But there are roles that I think I have given a lot to and in fact maybe those films haven't been... Box office successes, whether it was Laal Singh Chadda, whether it was Heroin, whether it was Tashan. These are films that I loved and, you know, enjoyed doing and gave a lot to a lot of thought. Like Rupa was such a deep character in Laal Singh. Somehow she was dark but yet like a ray of sunshine. So, you know, doing those kind of parts really excite me. Do you remember a chat we had on your show? Yeah, yeah. About bad girls and bad boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't get a chance to expand on that thought. But what I was basically trying to say is that all of us are a little bit grey. Of course. And those human beings, I think, are... The most interesting to play also. Yeah. In terms of... The grey people are the most interesting in real life and the most interesting in the whole space. I think so, no? Are you still like the same shade of grey that you were in your 20s? Or are you a different person now? In the 2020s? I think when I was in my 20s, Ranveer, I was a lot more like... There's a different fire inside. There's a different spirit, a different spirit that has to prove that I have to be the best. I want to do this. That's a different kind of constantly on the go. I have to do this, I have to do that, I have to do this film, I have to do that ad, you know, all of that. But I think now after having... Almost reached 25 years of my career. There's a different kind of hunger. Hunger for a little bit of peace also in the characters that I play. A little bit of more deeper understanding. Because as a human being also I have grown. And between 20 and 43, there's no growth as a person. I think there'll be no growth as an actor. And I feel like I have grown as a person. Recently how? Recently how motherhood has changed me, being a wife has changed me. I think there are different types of responsibilities in life. You're not chasing just that one end point. When you're in your 20s, success is everything. Box office hits are everything. My life revolves on the fact that I need to prove myself as a good actor or a star. Now it's... I feel my mind has also expanded and my husband, my children, my friends have allowed me and helped me grow into, you know, the person I am and hopefully the person I will become. Is there a challenge at this stage? There's a challenge of, you know, how far I can go with mental peace, how far I can stretch myself to be at peace with myself. And that is a constant battle which one has to keep, you know. doing can i add to your piece a little bit yeah of course so because you are the sunflower of india oh god something this is for you wow thank you so beautiful yeah i love sunflowers should i keep it here uh you can keep it next to you wherever you wish but uh this is actually what you are for a lot of india and i know this is a little gimmicky but no i i think getting flowers is Never a gimmick. I think it's so nice. You like receiving flowers? Yeah. We thought long and hard about which ones to give you. Yeah, sunflower. There's no flower that I could think of that's as similar to your soul. Like how we know Kareena Kapoor. I think that's a lovely compliment for me. Like, you know, whether it's you in a photo or you on screen, or I remember even like my early memories of seeing Kareena Kapoor, you always like stood out. And that came from a place of like, deep internal self-confidence. That I understand right now. Yeah. So were you acting with self-confidence then? Or like, was it actually that deep? You know, I'm actually... I can only act to play my characters. In real life, I don't think I can act. Because I'm that kind of person that anything... It just shows on my face. It shows in my eyes. That if the mood is bad... That I'm upset about something or... Anything, anything. I'm extra happy. That's why when you see me, it's... Sometimes I'm like so happy. I'm like all OTT over the top because I genuinely, it comes from that. I just react instantly to people, to things, to, you know, that I'm a very reactive person. And I think that has helped me. So self-confidence, I don't think it can, confidence is something that you can put on. It was always there. You either have it or you don't have it. I don't remember you being without confidence. No, in this profession, I think. My biggest ammunition and my biggest asset has been my confidence. And that's why I feel that maybe people feel that I have inspired people or Geet has inspired people, that character so much. Because she was lovable but there was a confidence. That I'll go, I'll run away, I'll get married to that guy, I'll do it. That level of confidence, that level of innocence also, I think that is... That is in me. Do you get bored of being asked Jab We Met questions? Because, see, the topic is very hot on reels and shorts. So if anyone talks about Jab We Met, it blows up on the algorithm. But it's just amazing because the film released recently and people were sending me videos because I have some of my own friends who went to watch it. People have recited the whole film. They are like as though they are reading a book. They're just reading, they were saying the dialogues one after the other, not just mine but Shahid's, everybody's, every single character. So it's just, the impact it has on people. So very few films in a person's career have that. Very few films in general age that well also. Yeah. And like, I think Geet as a character has influenced a lot of people's heads in general. It's a very like, sunflower positive character. Yeah, somewhere, you know, that, I mean, you know, like 16, 17 years later, you're still giving examples of that, even though so many films have released. But I feel those love stories, these days, we're missing that. Yeah, I feel the same. I feel the same about the film world in general all over the world. Like I remember growing up seeing a lot of rom coms. I don't know where all the rom coms are. I don't know where they've gone. Where have they gone? Yeah, where have they gone? Where have all the love stories gone? Where are all those Shah Rukh? Kajol moments where are those I also miss those but what's the internal chatter in the film industry where have they gone now everyone is watching action hopefully you'll watch comedy next week so we're trying to bring back different genres but I think somehow the action films are appealing a lot to the audiences but I feel the audiences their tastes change also they like good films they are so accepting and Loving that the fact is that if you give them something that interests them, give them a good story, be it in any form, I think they just stick to it. Have you ever wondered about why Jab We Met was this evergreen? Because I'll give you a little Gen Z perspective on Jab We Met. Yeah, of course, I'd love to know. There's a lot of green flag and red flag chatter. Like according to everyone, Anshuman was a red flag. Yeah, yeah, of course. And have you heard of the word situationship? I mean, I've read like people say that. So there's a relationship. And then on the other end of the spectrum, there's like a casual, like friends with benefits. This is somewhere in the middle. Where you're not, you're a friend with benefits with someone where there's also emotional benefits. That becomes a situation. So that's why people are connecting, you're saying? Yeah, I think with time people are connecting. Jab Bhi Met with a lot of stuff that's happening in the 2020s. Yeah. That's why everyone's like that film was way ahead of its time. Could be. Yeah, that's true. What advice would you give Geet now? The character. With everything you've learnt about life. I mean, Geet was somehow... Her innocence actually has taken her. And this longevity is because of her. She did everything and thought so much from her heart. That nowadays people think from their mind. Which they should do sometimes in life. But Geet always thinks from her heart. That you don't see nowadays. Even in the Gen Z I feel. So that's how somehow they are connecting that they also want to be like that. You know? But somehow I feel people are thinking a lot more with their mind. in the 2020s but people are getting very effed up in the head nowadays like it's just it's just an outcome of living in the 2020s with social media and comparison and all that yeah that's what i sense is happening a lot and geet was pre-social media yeah i think that her innocence was still intact that's why people are connecting with the characters even more yeah i think so yeah it's scary but i mean like as much as i love it i love like i love instagram and i get to you know be in my bed and travel the world and but it's just I know how damaging like it could be to the mind and how carried away you know people can get with the way everything has to be like picture perfect everything has to be like get ready for the event be seen at this event go collect this award do this. Itna pressure aagaya hai ki we're I think we're somewhere in between we're like also forgetting to like you know live a little bit. For ourselves, for our families, for our friends, enjoy the moments. Like every dinner, at least three times we have to tell our friends or each other, come on, leave that phone. Chalo, phone bandh karo. So I think it's like we're just caught up in so many things. So I feel we should still bring back that Geet innocence. And that's why people are still loving that and going to see that film. Is Geet inside Kareena Kapoor or is Kareena Kapoor inside Geet? Simpler way of asking. Yeah, right? Is there a Geet inside you? Like, are you that person completely? Completely. I think I am that person. Because Geet always thought from her heart. And I honestly, Ranveer, in my life, I have taken every decision from my heart. I have never taken it by thinking. Otherwise, you can see my career graph. You can see some people will say, Oh, she said no to this film, that film, this film, that film. And there are so many discussions about that, that sometimes I'm like, okay, right? You know, every film has its destiny. It wasn't written in my destiny, it was written in someone else's destiny. It's fine. But I have always taken my decisions from my heart. That I want to do this. This is what I want to do right now, this is what I don't want to do right now. So that's why I feel somewhere you're, you know, you associate the sunflower girl in me. Because, you know, I'm a bit of that also. How's life right now? How's life right now? Exciting? I'm very, very excited for Kru. All-female-centric kind of film, comedy. Excited to have collaborated with my long-time producers, Ria and Ekta. We're an all-women kind of army. Tabu, Kriti, all of us. I feel like in between so many action films, there's a... female heist Ocean Eleven's Ocean's 8 kind of vibe film comedy nice if it comes you've always seen the males do it but now I think we're ready for the female kind of heist comedy which I think it is I think girls have generally gotten very active in content which is very good which is very good I think we had had this discussion that time as well there's a lot of female content creators coming up lots of girls are expressing themselves more on social media which is great which is great and which I think is great for them For themselves, for their self-confidence, for their mental health. Conversations are on. Women are in the forefront. I mean, I think everywhere around the globe. So, I'm happy that it's a good time. So, I'm very confident again that I feel people will enjoy watching us. Do you change with every film? Or do you stay the same? No, I think I should change with every film. I mean, in terms of... In terms of look, I don't know. Size, look, those are all things that don't bother me as much. But I should change, my character should change, the way I perform should change. Things like that should change. When you went down to size zero, I remember this was like what India was obsessed with at that point. Oh god, yeah. Was there a downside of that that didn't come out in the public? Or was that still easy for you because what I can tell about you is now... especially after speaking to you but i could tell this even then like you're very deeply ambitious so like or in that phase for sure yeah no i'm i'm i'm ambitious you have read me well i am ambitious but i'm not ambitious to the point that i would harm myself my mental frame of mind you tend to when ambition is so high in your life that you have nothing else to look forward to so i'm not i'm not like that but i'm ambitious did you ever Harm your like mental health. No. Size zero also I took that time. I took almost a year, year and a half to get into that. Look. And it was like a challenge. That I said, that I have to do it once in life. For this action film. Because I've never done an action film actually after that also. That I have to do this in life, so I have to do this. Would you do it again? Now I think that we're living in a generation where everything is accepted. And I wouldn't like to say that, okay, this certain body type would be accepted for an action film or this not. I think today everything and everyone... can do what they want to do. So, I think I'm ready for an action film now also. I don't need to be a size zero. I have like too many questions. Okay, and I mean, I'm going to be like very straightforward. Okay. So, normally we shoot in a studio and the studio has its own energy. Yeah. So, I'm able to go way deeper into my guest's mind also. Okay. And that's usually the theme of this show. because I get to meet people from a lot of industries and get to gauge where people are. So I'm still trying to get closer to the real arena. And then what will happen? Then you will assess me and will you say something? I can say so much even now, but we'll hold that for the end of the podcast. How are you feeling till this point? I really like, enjoy talking to you because I think you are also honest. You come across as very honest and come across as somebody who is an interviewer who... Most people like I feel, when we do interviews, they ask questions but don't want to hear the answer. They want to go to the next question. That you know, what is it? Okay, I've asked her. So the interviewer is asking the question but not really listening to the interviewee. You know, so I like to talk to people where they would also engage me and actually try to, like you said, you know, kind of understand or get into my mind i think an interview now is for uh the tabloids and the headlines and the clicks a podcast is for the heart yeah so i'm i'm actually doing it for me then that's very good because that that's why i'm happy i'm here i would ask you these same questions if you gave me the time at a party or a social function also these are just my actual questions yeah which is good that's why it's different I'd also ask you for gossip. That I don't have. You said that you have so many different celebrities, guests. So you should know. I am like, I have this reputation. Yeah, why? I don't know. I think just like that. I think I have no time to have also so much information. Nowadays, everything comes on Instagram. Where do you get your gossip from? I think from Instagram these days. You're active on Insta? I mean, as active as one can be, you know. You enjoy it? I enjoy it. I have to say that the journey started slow for me because I was new to it. But now I'm enjoying it. Like, I'm enjoying the fact that, okay, everybody's posting pictures. I'll post pictures. But then, if I know it's getting too much into my personal space, then I pull back. Then I'm like, no, no, no. The thing you said about social media affecting mental health. Does it affect Kareena Kapoor Khan? No. Because everyone else would feel a sense of comparison. Yeah. I don't think there's anyone you'd compare yourself with. There's nothing. People compare themselves to you. No, no, nothing like that. I feel like I would, I, even if, you know, sometimes there's a thought in my mind, but I'm always like, I don't want to, like, it's okay, you know. And I wouldn't want to compare because I know that there's place for everybody. Have you been competitive earlier in life? I mean, I think I definitely, in my 20s and 30s, I must have surely been for sure. For sure. Because, like I said, you know, that time when you're younger, I think that energy goes to a different level. Your wavelength, you're on a different wavelength in your 20s, 30s. That's why in so many interviews I've also said that I never want to go back to that time. I'm very much at peace now. Now I'm like if I know that like this is it and like I'm taking like 10-15 days off from work I'm confident that I'm going to do this and this is what I want to do and then nothing can change my mind you know from that. But earlier we never wanted that we don't want a holiday because then it used to happen that if there is a holiday then there is no work. You know you should have 5 films, you should have 10 films. Now it's like you know. In your head. you were aiming only for the top always it was always like I want to climb up the mountain was that what was going on in your head? my mom always told me if you aim for the stars you'll end up on the tree So she was like, always keep your aim as high as high can be. And then wherever you land, we'll land. Okay, another straight question, okay? About this came to peace with things. I have a lot of friends in the world of acting, okay? And I have a lot of friends in media in general, but I see this specifically with actors. Actors are usually like the best looking people in any friend group or anywhere they go. But in their heads, they're not good looking. Okay. Have you ever had that doubt? No, I don't. You've always known that you're gorgeous. I don't want to lie. Because if I say that, I'm not that girl. So I can't lie. Have you had any insecurity related to looks? No, I have not. I don't think so. I think I get it from my parents. I can't. I don't want to say. That, oh, okay, I am. Because I'm not that person, so I don't want to. And if I lie, I guess you'll catch me. And this show is a podcast, as you said. So you'll know from my eyes. And then the world will know. So I'd rather answer straight. That I have no qualms at all. I have no doubt in my mind. You've been in the limelight over so long that people know your character. But there's still parts of you that people don't understand that are hidden. Yeah. Which is... The art of stardom according to me at least. Completely. Right? Creating an interest, that is also part of stardom. Which not everyone understands nowadays. No. Right? That doesn't exist anymore. I'm sorry, I'm being honest. No, it's fine. The line has completely gone. It's sad. Do you? I feel bad. Why do you feel bad? For this generation because there is no such thing. Because one... It was a different time, you know, where there was a different reach. And also, I just feel like the way I have been, I've been extremely honest with my fans, audiences, everyone as much. And they also respect a lot of my private life, you know, like with the kids or the family or whatever. I also put it a lot on social media and, you know. We are from a film family, so it will always be in the limelight. And we do that. But I think that there is a side to them that wo automatically ek hai, that people know that, okay, this is it. How did Kapoor Khan Daan blood feel running through your veins in your childhood? I didn't, there was never a, I don't think we realised that what, you know. family yeah my family I never really thought because my parents never really let me feel that my mother was extremely she came from a very very middle-class family um and she was my father my nana was also an actor character he acted in a lot of films in different roles so but we were never really meant to feel like You know that we come from this family or like what my we didn't even know because I mean like going to a shoot the first shoot I went on was like when I was I think eight or nine years old at Chintu Uncle shoot. In Kashmir he was doing a film with Rekha ji and we had gone Ranbir and all of us had gone for that shoot. I think it was Sheshnag one of the films I don't remember and it was being shot in Gulmarg. So it was actually the first time you know like I had remembered that I had seen a shoot. Before that I know that when I was very small, I was at my father's set. He had done a film with Amit uncle called Pukar. And in that film I had gone for the shoot. But I was like barely one year old or something. So I have no memory that I was ever made to feel. In those days it was like my grandfather and all. They were also like very like chill, relaxed. Nobody had this media chaos. There was paparazzi culture. There was never, nobody felt that they were really big stars or superstars. My family was also very into passionate, my grandfather was very passionate about art, music, cinema. He would play the harmonium, he would make his songs. We've always heard him sing like that. Never any thought, show-shabazi type of thing. There was never. It's an art-oriented family, first and foremost. Yes, because we were always, whether it was Shashi uncle who was into theatre. Shami uncle and my grandfather were very passionate about films, music. So I'm saying that it was never really thought that, yes of course parties and all I'm sure happened but we were never part of that. And then of course my mum... moved on and we were shown a childhood that was very very basic and simple my mom used to make me go and drop me to the school bus my mom still today has no idea of this paparazzi culture and she's like i don't understand what is this of course she's like you must work and work when i see you on the silver screen or when i see your film then i will tell you how good or bad you are this is not all that you are doing this or that And today they don't even understand that culture. That the paps are running after you. Why are they running after you? Yeah, okay. But for them it's like, act well. Make a good picture. Your mom's contributed to your personality too much. As is the case with anyone. Anyone's mom contributes a lot. But I feel with especially career oriented people. A career so multifaceted. That one of your parents usually plays a very big role. in creating mindset and whatever I've seen about you talking on other interviews you always bring it up when you're talking about confidence yeah personality now you're bringing it up when you're talking about ambition also of course I feel you get it like from your mom definitely I do because my mom is very self-made and she's she's a very very strong woman whoever in the industry also when you talk about my mom they will tell you she is that kind of lady she was like known like as the iron lady because she was very like strong about the way her children were how you know like women in the family should work she always asserted for the right things you know how were you as a teenager i was very naughty i was very naughty i troubled her a lot but you were good at studies no i mean i was good yeah like 65 70 percent i was very good and like i had interest i enjoyed going to school i went to a boarding school i enjoyed all of that But I was naughty. Was she grooming you to become Garena Kapoor then? So I think that she was very strongly involved in my sister's career. You know, a lot more. Because Karishma also started at 14 and it was a different time. And she was actually one of the first in the family who actually, you know, was working. People used to say that light-eyed girls never make it in Bollywood. As if old, old kind of thoughts were there. And my mom was like, no. And sister really wanted to act. So, she had a huge hand in that. And then, of course, I think that paved the way for me. But little Kareena Kapoor was just like watching all that. Watching, constantly. And like also being... For me, I feel like I've lived two careers. Like I know before things can happen, I know exactly how it's going to pan out. Sometimes I like get scared. Because I know. Because I've seen so much. I mean, I've seen my sister's career. My sister started shooting at the age of 15. I'm six years younger than her. I was there when she gave her first shot. So I've seen her journey. You know, like, I mean, like I was what? I mean, seven years old. I was Taimur's age. So I mean, for me, I've been seeing it since then. So I think I'm lucky enough to have that guidance also. Like you said, not just watching in the wings. It was literally like that. It can be a movie like through my eyes. Yeah. What was it like growing up in front of the world? Because your debut happened when I think you were 7, when you were a teenager. Yeah. No, I started shooting at 18. 18. Film released in 2000. I was 20. But you're still growing up in front of the world. Like 20 is too young in terms of, I was an idiot when I was 20. Yeah, I wasn't doing the regular things at 20. You can say that. College, restaurants, parties, friends'houses, sleepovers. I never had that normal. Was there a price you paid in your own eyes? This only? Letting go of all this stuff? I think so. You thought about it then? I mean, that's when that ambition was there. That this is more important. That I want to be an actor. And for that, I have to maybe sacrifice a lot or do this. That passion was there. So I never really thought about that. But now when I sit back and look and think, that what is normal, like, you know, sleeping over at friends'homes, you know, just chilling that time with your friends. I am working since I was 18. That chilling and all, now I feel sometimes I take out time and want to chill with my friends. Because 18 to like, you know, almost 30, I don't remember a time that, we didn't even know that time, that what is it like to party? What is the meaning of that? Our parties were like We're on a shoot We're sitting and chilling With our crew With our people Growing up In that We grew up on that set So that was life So which is... Would you change anything? No. Fully like love the journey and everything? I love the journey. I love the mistakes. I love the journey. I love the... Every single thing. Because I've learnt everything here. Would you want your kids to become actors? Or is it too early to... Seven and three, yeah. I think it's... It's too early. I would definitely want them to take their decision. They're great looking boys. They are, but they have to fly their own way. That's their journey. And both Saif and me are very different because we both have had such strong journeys in our individual life. So both of us are very individually very strong parents in our thoughts, in our approach. Plus, we've always lived our life the way we want to live our life. That we will never tell our children what to do. So, let them fly. They'll figure out their direction somewhere or the other, where they have to land. What's the main advice you're giving them at this stage? Because I know you get asked a lot of questions about the paparazzi angle. I don't ask you that, but I'm sure as a parent, there's a human side to you, which is also thinking about... You know, your son's long-term self-image, like what your mom did for you. Yeah, of course. So what is Kareena, the mom, doing for her kids? In terms of what do you keep telling them? Right now, it's just like, don't fight with each other. Because right now, also, we were at home and I was getting ready and suddenly I hear Saif screaming on top of his voice. And I was like, what happened? And he's yelling, you will not do that, you will not. Because right now it's just pulling them apart. Because they're both finding their identities right now. And Taimur is now the older brother. So he's like, bullying him, pushing him. The little one is just trying to be like, but I'm also. You can't do that to me. So right now it's like, both Saif and me are like, what's happening? It's like so difficult. We didn't think that we're two boys. It's like crazy. And they're both very strong individuals. You can tell from now, you know. They have their own personality because my younger one is like, I'm not going to be a... You know the younger sibling always has that, huh? Push over. Yeah. The older sister will always have that, the older brother. So he's like, I'm not a push over. This is mine. You will not come to my room. So I'm like, yaar ye to sir filmon mein dekha tha. Ab to life mein ho raha hai. You know when boys are growing up with each other? violence is their love language oh no so there's a lot more wait till the time they discover WWE they have because Taimur already has so he's wearing his gloves and he's like come on come on and I'm like he's three and he's like doing these flying kicks and some bicycle kicks and I'm just like oh man nice fun yeah it's fun I'm learning also because you know we come from a all women household so what's it like Seeing boys. Just boys. Yeah. I'm like, you know, I need somebody like, I need Saif to tell me that it's fine. Relax. Just chill out. It's okay. It happens. It happens. You know. So, it's just crazy, man. It's just like every day there's, every 15 minutes their mood changes. And I've realized they only want to run and they only want to eat food. They only want, give me food and they want to run. They want to run. Football and cricket and yeah, that's it. One minute, they don't just want to sit for a second. Hmm, sounds familiar. You were like that. To all the guys. All, all, all, I think boys are like that when they're growing up. Yeah, right? You have a need for inflicting pain upon your sibling, but it's actually love. You never cross a threshold with the pain you're inflicting. Yeah. Even when you're a kid. And then, if like I fire Jay and I'll say, why did you kick Taimur? Then Taimur will start crying. So I'm like, but I'm firing him for you. Why are you crying? He's like, don't talk to Jay like that. I'm like, they'll figure it out. Brotherhood. It's wholesome. Exactly. I think so. Did you receive flying kicks from Karishma Kapoor? No, but like, I'm still very assertive with her. I think. It is always the other way around. I was hug-jumming on her. There is, I can't believe I'm giving you a football example. But still, to explain. So there's a pair of footballers called Kevin Prince Boateng and Jerome Boateng. They grew up in a ghetto. Kevin Prince was also great. He was the older one. So are they playing now? They're just about to retire. So Taimur might know them. Yeah. They were playing for what? Bayern Munich. Oh, he loves Bayern Munich. So, they say that the younger one became a legend because the older one who's also great protected the younger one always. I'm actually comparing this to Karishma Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor also. In terms of, I'm sure she's given you like a lot of mentoring, guidance. Of course. She is like, I mean like, she's like my go-to for everything. Like I just call her for every little thing. And honestly, she's like the anchor of the family. Because everyone in my family, which is the Kapoors, as well as the Patodis, only call Karishma. They'll all call her. So she's like, whatever happens, call Lolo. If you need a doctor, who do you need? Call Lolo. Any problem, this problem has happened, I need a cook, I need this, Karishma will know. So, you know, she's like, because she has this very strong personality, you know. She takes control. takes charge of everything. She always has the right thing to say. So I think that she just draws people towards her. How does sisterhood evolve? Best friends. From like looking up to the older sister to wanting to be like her to now like I think pretty much equals and best friends. I think we have that equation now where we can tell each other that oh I didn't like this or... I don't like this. And there's a certain amount of respect that comes in when you're in your 40s and 50s. And we're six and a half years apart. So it's... We're more like friends. Like, you know, who respect each other. Like, she respects my space as well. You know, if I don't want to talk. And I vice versa. Do you have days like that? I think so. We all... Yeah, right? I can't... I mean, see, this is the curse of your fame. Like, I've seen your fame... for a big section of my life. So I really can't imagine you pissed off out and out. You know what I mean? I can't imagine you sad or pissed off or anything. No, sad is different. Pissed off is different. My anger is like, I'm like a soda bottle. I'll just go, go, go, go, go, react. And then after that, I've forgotten also about it. Like exactly five minutes later, I'm just like... I've forgotten what the issue is. I'm like, what is the issue? I've moved on to another topic. So when I'm fighting with Saif also, he's like, but you said you're pissed off. I'm like, yeah, yeah, but now I'm fine. So I'm from a generation of urban men, all of whom have a man crush on your husband. Oh, really? I know, I've heard that before. Like, any guy who I've grown up with loves Saif Ali Khan. Whenever Saif Ali Khan's name is taken, there's a lot. And I told him this on the show as well. That he's taught an entire generation how to be cool. Yeah, completely. The entire 2000s Dil Chaata Hai Time, Hum Tum Salaam Namaste, Bing Cyrus. An entire generation was written coolness. I mean, today you can't, I don't think any actor, he's also quite irreplaceable in those parts. Like, I don't know, like if Kalona had to be made again, I can't see anyone play that part. Because Zaev is just, he has that vibe like, you know. Relax. And also like he can talk shit very well. Yeah. And still be manly. Yeah. And intellectual. And intellectual. So that combination doesn't happen these days. What was the most attractive thing at first? And then during the honeymoon phase, what was the most attractive when you got to know Saif Ali Khan? I think of course the first was the fact that he's I think extremely handsome. And he was like. I mean, when I saw him first, I was like, I've never seen somebody so handsome and so like good looking and, you know, has that natural. Royal aura. Yeah, like he just had a natural glint in his eye that was like really charming. And, you know, he also has very kind eyes, which I think women like in men where they look that when you have an eye that's so kind, where you feel like it's a natural caring kind eyes that he has. So I think that was the first thing. and then of course I mean like I think I'm still discovering Saif really yeah I know him there's no one better in the world who knows Saif than me and I can confidently say that he also knows that like I know exactly what he's thinking and what he's gonna think next but I think you're always because you're a partner and you are also always evolving you know so we're gonna keep discovering each other which I think is nice but his intelligence like one of the core reasons no but his intelligence this idea of says intelligent I don't know where of course he's always like Why do always, why is everybody saying that, okay, he reads books because books, reading books, books are meant to be read and it's the most normal thing ever. So I'm like, yeah, I don't know. So he's like, yeah, I don't know. Intelligent in the sense, he thinks, he thinks, you know, and he's, yeah, he's, I mean, well read because he's interested in reading, you know, but I mean, He's not interested in worldly politics. I don't know. It's not like he's some economist or something like that. He's not. That's why there's peace in his eyes. Yeah, exactly. He's not like, I don't understand anything. He's like, I also am as normal and whatever. This stereotype comes from one of the older Coffee with Karan episodes that you were on where you said, you caused this stereotype. I've caused it. What did I say that he reads? Yeah, you said something like, They don't make men like that anymore who read and who are intellectual. I mean, intellectual in the sense that maybe he thinks a lot more. So... More deeply. Yeah, let's... You know, this is like my 650th something episode. He was my 9th or 8th episode, something like that. So I wasn't... Then you should talk to him now. Yeah, you make it happen. No, but my point is, I wasn't prepared. to do a good podcast with him that time because i was also too young yeah now i think after this i'm going to tell him that it's been like it's fun and you'll get to like speak a lot of what and people will get to know the deep deeper side to you yeah uh i again people i'm getting to know the deeper side of you right now which is which is again like i've what you said not key uh whatever inside is happening on your face yeah yeah it's a very punjabi thing uh-huh my my whole you Like my nature is like my mom, but my entire personality is born Punjabi. I mean, I am like a chapa of my father and I have no bones about it. And if anybody has problems, I don't care. I am like this only. I am like, me and my father are mirror images of each other. Like our sense of humor, the way we eat, the way we talk, the way we... Like Sid, he also enjoys all these comedy movies. And like my tastes. Like I'm just born and bred like a Punjabi. Full on. What's your favorite food other than Chinese food? It is Chinese, right? No, Chinese of course because I think all the kapoors are obsessed with Chinese. But my hardcore food is the hardcore desi Punjabi food. Kadhi chawal, rajma chawal, I'm like hardcore into all of that. That's comfort food. That is not comfort. That is like my proper khana. In the day, like I mean come what may, mere ghar pe toh like, like Saif eats, he eats very spartan in the day. Like he likes to because he's working in the day and he's whatever. So he's like vegetarian and he'll like, you know like. Simple dal sabzi. And he can eat that every day. In the day he prefers. So, he likes the fact that, you know, he'll eat the same food every day. The dal and sabzi. That gobi and bhindi ka sabzi will be made every day. But for me, it's like with a passion, I like tell my cook knows. Like one day there's rajma, one day there's kadhi chawal, one day there's chana. Like that, it has to, you know that. Punjabi taste has to be there. 100%. That is, and my food is totally different from these three. So. These three. Kids also. So they eat like him. They also eat like him. My younger one is more like me because he also is like that paratha and white butter and all of that. For me, that is like my daily food. One meal I have to have that. And cheat meals? But I'm eating parathas every 2-3 days. What do you like in Chinese food? I like Punjabi Chinese. Huh? That Manchurian and Chow Mein. I'm telling you, it's crazy. My taste is like that. Like now also talking about food, I'm like, oh God, wow. Too good. So, but that is the real Geet also. That Punjabian, that is me also. A little bit. Sundays are nice because in my house I'll have Sindhi curry, potato too. Otherwise I'll have biryani. Cookie roti. Cookie roti. You're Sindhi? I have a lot of Sindhi friends. Haan. That's cookie. Cookie. I've grown up. My mom is also half Sindhi. So that combination is very scary. Can you speak Sindhi? No. You can understand? No. You feel Sindhi on the inside? No, I feel full Punjabi. Yeah? Yeah. I can't speak Punjabi but I can understand when Punjabis are talking. I know. Also because I love the sound of the language. This is a very Bombay Punjabi thing to say. Yeah. Same. It's very sweet. That internally you are very Punjabi but you can't speak Punjabi? Yeah, because I'm born in Bombay. But I feel like I'm full... Desi. Yeah, Punjabi Desi. That look that people know that is me only. That I am for sure. I feel there's a lot of similarities between you and your cousin Ranbir Kapoor also. Yeah, I know. A lot of people say that also. He also is, I think, similar because he has an attitude and a confidence and an air that again is just nobody has, I think. In the Indian film industry. I'm very biased. I don't look biased but I don't even actually think I'm biased because I genuinely think there's no one like Ranbir Kapoor. It's those Raj Kapoor genes that have like trailed down. He is so like a deadly combination yaar because Chintu uncle also is such a fine actor. Neetu aunty is such a great actress. Plus he has, usme toh poora koot koot ke jo andar rakha hai na. That usme poora bharah bharah hai. What do people not know about him? And or the question could be how is he like as a brother? I think Ranbir also is like, I find Ranbir and Saif also are very similar. Extremely kind. Also they have very kind eyes. Even Ranbir's eyes are very kind. You know, because he's genuinely. Also I think he's a very no-nonsense person. I think if he really likes you, he likes you. If he doesn't like you, he's the kind of person to. You know, he doesn't make too much of an effort then. You know, what you see is what you get. Extremely loving, also very charming. I think that's why he has the entire nation dancing to his tunes. So I think that he's also very unique, I think, in a way. I think if you're not charming, you can't have a film career. Because the charm shows up on screen, but you also need it in the off-camera role. Yeah, and it has to be natural. It can't be put on. That put on, I think people pick up. So I feel Ranbir has a very natural air to him. Where did this darkness that we see in Animal come from? Like in his eyes, like the way he's delivering some of those scenes. Like, I'm like, how did he become that person in that scene? Like, and I'll tell you the other way of asking the same question. The same thought has been pitched by me to Mukesh Chhabra on the show. I'm asking about what creates a good actor. And it was like life experiences. Then it went into this whole nepotism, like conversation. And then he said, That, but the exception is Ranbir Kapoor, Kareena Kapoor. So I tried asking him, what's special about you guys? So he said that usually people who are good actors are also very empathetic. And perhaps empathy runs in that gene pool. That you can pick up other people's emotions much more easily. Yeah. I'm sorry, I know this is like too deep. No, but empathy is such an important aspect, you've said. It is. In your performance, to... be empathetic towards another person and to feel that what the other characters are also feeling and to bring out that emotion is also so important so empathy is very important in performances you can read other people easily i think yeah and that's tiring why because then you can read you know exactly like what that person is what the person is going to say whether they actually mean it that's why i like to keep my circle small you Because it also tires you, drains you, right? Plus everyone's viewing you with the Nazar of, oh I'm talking to Kareena Kapoor. Yeah. That gets tiring? Of course that gets tiring. Gets tiring little bit, right? Little bit, now it does, right? So now you just want to like, be yourself and... With YouTube fame, which is hyper niche, I feel tired. So I can't imagine what your reality is in terms of stamina and exhaustion. I don't know how to... I mean explain it but that's why I always I think off late because obviously I mean I've been around for so long I keep my circle small I don't do too many interviews I don't like to do too much because I'm like Abhi you know you should also enjoy your stardom and your fans from watching you also on your screen on the screen because you have there's always going to be a part of you little bit in each character you know that you kind of pick up that's also important So I want people to pick up that also through each film. Have you ever felt lonely throughout this journey? Well, I mean, of course, I think people... You will never really understand what you are feeling at that time because sometimes you have to do so many things for others no matter what you are going through. You are dying of 102 fever but there is no one with you. They don't care. You have to give a shot, you have to go, you have to go. And people have done that. So what you are feeling inside, sometimes nobody, how much can they understand? Just to be a professional. This, in this job, yes. Plus, you know, people will... There is no sick leave. There's also no room to have a bad day if you're going out in public. Having the worst day, people will... There's no room to feel emotion for anything apart from that you have to make sure that you're just being that perfect star at that time. So many things can be happening. So many... I mean anything. Could have had a fight with my mom, could have had a fight with my son, with anything. But at that time, it just has to be you and the camera. In that sense, this profession is... That is the demandingness. Not that you're promoting, going to an event, all that, of course, that also is demanding. That has now taken out the juice of becoming an actor, being an actor also, or being a star, you know? But it's the internal emotion that if tomorrow anything is happening around you, anything, somebody could be dying, but if you're in the shot, that's it. It's just you and the camera. It's very selfish, but... That's the price you have to pay. And that's what I feel is demanding. All these other things are all unnecessary. They're not important. I mean. Like events, doing this, doing that, film promotions, all that is all temporary. It doesn't, honestly, it doesn't matter. That is not demanding. Just this craft aspect. Craft. You always have to give that 200% even if you're... That is where the job is demanding. Is your craft going on outside of a film set ever? No. As in, in the sense, performing or... No, I mean when you go out in public, you are maintaining that brand. That of course has to happen. How do you dress at home? I dress like I've been like, so strange. Saif today is like, God. To go to an event, so many people, so many clothes. He's like, what has happened to actors? I said, I don't know. I don't want to do this. I want to also just go like, you know, in fun. You know, like, you know, earlier we would do interviews also. Sometimes in my old interviews, I'm wearing some dirty t-shirt and jeans. But I'm like, that had its charm. But I don't know. Nowadays, there's a lot of pressure. Like, look, hot, diva. Everyone wants to be that. There's so much pressure on fashion. So, I mean, you know, I guess... You look like a diva even in the t-shirt and jeans. Yeah, but that's what I'm like, I'm happy. So, he's like, why are you doing all this? He's like, the entire house has been taken over with clothes and like people. So, he's like, is this really... What it is, I'm like, yeah. I think that old time is going to come back now. That's my thoda gut feel. I hope so, yeah. You don't feel so? I hope so, honestly. I have like one more compliment for you. Okay? You should just deliver the compliment. Apart from the sunflower. There's a, this whole podcast has been a string of compliments. No, no. But I'm also carrying all the compliments I got from people who I told about this podcast. Like I always talk to these people who are very, like deeply, like you know, they're film nerds. And the film industry nerds. Oh, really? And lots of people are Kareena Kapoor fans. Huh. So, most people told me to ask you about the following topic, okay? Okay. Before I tell you the topic, I'll tell you the compliment. The compliment is, like, we spoke about this whole tiring thing. It gets demanding. Okay? And it's been a while that you've been, like, relevant. Yeah, yeah. The fight for relevance is, it doesn't just happen. There's hard work, there's discipline, there's working on being, like, you know, on... exhausted days you have to still yeah yeah um but it doesn't ever show up on your face usually with a lot of people who age yeah their noor goes away like you know but uh sadi toh ae Rihanna ae Beyonce no no I don't know why where that came from how how how is your noor still like there like what's happening in your heart because I feel the day I you This hunger. So it's strange because it's like I'm at peace with myself, like with whatever, but I'm still hungry for... More. I'm satisfied but I'm not satiated, if I'm making sense. Like you feel gratitude for everything that's there already and everything that's happened? Of course. But some more feel even better. It's more like that hunger should constantly be there. And there should always be a feeling of like, but I can do that. The day that goes away, I will just be like, I'm done. So that is still there. But it might go, I don't know, 5, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, I don't know. Like people who know me say that I'll be working till I'm 80. Because they know me. And I always say that, oh yeah, yeah, whatever, now I don't. But I always feel like, no, but I can do that. But I can do this film, but I can do that. So that is what keeps you, you know, on your... toes are you doing it for someone are you doing it for your mother are you doing it for your kids no i'm doing it for myself i'm doing it for myself my kids like today my son has asked me that again you're doing makeup mama you like makeup lots i think so he's still figuring out but it's not that i'm doing it for myself i'm doing it to be you know satisfied satiated for myself be happy And to prove to myself that, you know, that I want to always be this person that you've just asked me this question that hopefully 25 years later, also, you might ask me this question. What's been like the most difficult phase through all this? Has there been any phase that stood out as like, that was challenging? I mean, a phase, I think that in 25 years, there's been too many ups and downs. In fact, the amount of failures I have seen. If you go back to a trajectory of my career, there have been a string of flops that have happened. And if it happened to anybody, honestly, nobody would survive this. Nobody. But we never talk about that because there is a certain... Aura. Or perception. There is a feeling that that's her or whatever. And I've never let people feel that. Because maybe I've been good in those films or however it is, I've worked hard for that. But there have been a string of films that have not worked before Jab Bheemet. Where I've always tried to be like, okay, none of the films are working, what's going to happen now? And a lot of things, people don't know that after, before Jab Bheemet, I had not worked for a year. I had said no to so many films and I was at home. Because I was like, so many films are not doing well, I need to take a step back to reassess why the hell this is happening, to wait for that perfect script, which will come. Which might take a year or two, but I must be prepared to pull back. Why was it happening? Because you were rushing with like... Yeah, just doing any and every film. Not really thinking maybe about it. Films were not working at the box office. And ultimately, box office success is important. At the end of the day... Numbers matter. You are chasing that. Whatever it is, we are chasing the craft. We are chasing the art. But with art, we are also chasing the fact that... This longevity has happened also because of the box office hits. Also, yes, of course, like you said, my confidence, personality, blah, blah, blah. Of course, my performances that I have been at it. That gumption is there. But we can't deny that. We can't take away from that also. Did you internalize the pain of those failures? Or did you just let go of it? No, of course, I was very upset. I was like traumatized. I would sleep. I haven't. cry myself to sleep for many nights that why my film's not working what am what is it that is happening that like everybody because even people were like she's so good but that one film it was it just needed that one turn which was not happening so that phase will always happen I think none in 25 years I feel in fact my I'm known more for my failures than my successes if my failures were not known Then I would not have that one, you know, feeling of, wow, okay, that success that has happened. Do you realize that at this stage, you're beyond failure and success? I'm sorry, I'm softening it for you because I know you've got a whole warrior spirit about going for success. So I don't mean to take away from that at all. Yeah. Like, I admire that about you. But there's very few people who've gone and reached that icon status out of... Years of hard work behind them. But I never want to know that. Sorry. I never want to get into this comfort zone. I want to know that this picture has to work. How does it have to work? What do we have to do? We have to give it our best. Let's make it work. What is it like? How do we improve it? Let's try and do that. So that feeling has to be there. Because otherwise then... What's the meaning of life? Yeah. So I don't want to ever have that feeling. Do you have a visual of your 70s and 80s in your head? With Ranveer doing another podcast. I don't know what is your thing. You don't want to. Maybe you don't want to be doing podcasts. I don't know what you want to do. I want to leave civilization. And that's not something cool. Like actually. I don't want to do that. You want to be in Mumbai? I don't know Mumbai or where now. I don't know wherever now once the kids grow up. who knows I don't know maybe somewhere in the hills in the mountains yeah same maybe we'll be neighbours Dharamshala yeah somebody somewhere beautiful hills you know I mean we are I mean of course I think our country is gorgeous and we've never really not even had the time to explore it you know so I keep seeing images where I would like to go you know And who knows, a retired life somewhere. Kasoli times. So beautiful. Deeper. Deeper into the mountains. Deeper into the mountains. That you will go. What do you want from life? I mean, for me, I just want to be like happy and content. In the middle of both. You're there right now? The middle of both. I think I'm happy being with my family, my children and my husband. I think that gives me a lot. My work gives me that. But I think one has to keep striving to find that perfection. And we don't know if it's actually there is perfection or not. No one really knows that. People who are not Kareena Kapoor know that perfection exists. No, I think... I am also a completely imperfect. I am, I mean, I'm also like, you know, trying to also figure out what to do, what not to do. Half of my life is spent satisfying people about what happens, right? What do they want? What do they need? What do I need to do? What do I want to do? That is, comes later. So that has just started. What I want to do. You do a very good job of not letting people know these things. that's what I'll say because it's a lot of common narratives about you in people's heads and there is no envy that I sense from anyone there's a lot of aspiration guys, girls everyone like loves your family life loves what you've done with your work and at the core loves your self confidence yeah I think that's where it comes from everything like everyone now deals with some level of um A lack of self-love. And we sense that you're at the other end of the spectrum. You know, that someone... Like poo. Yeah. You know? That's why those characters are iconic. They are more relevant now than then. Yeah. Evergreen. Because people want to be that. Yeah. Still. It's not there in the world. Before we let you go, Kareena, you want to talk a little bit about Kru? I think it's a really cool, fun film. I think... I think... After days of action action films, a good comedy film is coming out. And also it's like it's fun, it has this all women centric, women kind of female energy which is fun. Like there's Tabu, Kriti, me, I think. Yeah, I think that people are looking forward to that little mad crazy fun friendship film which I think this is. And hopefully our people will love me because it's comedy after a long time that I'm doing. And all of us need that. I think all of us need that now in the cinemas for a bit. Yeah, we've been missing that vibe. And what I will say is that the trailer is looking fantastic. Yeah, I think so. It's like got a vibe. Everybody's like the buzz is like quite like exciting. I've always felt like a connection with you. I have two things to say to you before you go. Three things. The first thing I'll say is that give us a chance to host you at our space. Yeah, of course. Because... Okay, it's different. Yeah. there's an energy in that where is that space it's nearby oh so where you stay yes but it'll it'll make a difference to the conversation whenever you wish the second thing I'll say is that because you love Chinese food I've got you something this is from me there's no there's no brand sponsor involved okay it's just a gift from one human being to another it's like Chinese food oh my god wow chili sauce and all that yeah so sweet these are all like my favorite things which which suit my palate so maybe the Punjabi in me is gifting the Punjabi and you all the Asian sauces I can see wow and the third thing I'll say is your time is a blessing so thank you For being the sunflower of India, Kareena Kapoor. No, thank you for having me on your lovely podcast. I hope you had fun. Yeah, I think it was a nice casual chat. It's so nice. Like I said, it's always you make it comfortable. The whole country admires Kareena Kapoor. So I'm glad that you gave us the chance to show another side of Kareena Kapoor to the world. Thank you. Thank you for having me. So as I'm recording this outro, Kareena Kapoor Khan has just left the room. And so has all that magnetic energy. There's nothing much for me to say other than the fact that I really want to do one more conversation with her at some point. Perhaps in Hindi the next time. For some reason, I do feel a deeper connection with her. Even though she is Kareena Kapoor Khan. When I'd gone on her show, I was just able to flow with her in terms of conversation. Call that a Punjabi connect. Call that a type A personality connect. I don't know what it is. But if you truly get to be in her presence, you get to see who she is as a human being, a lot of the misconceptions around Kareena Kapoor Khan will fade away. There's a lot of misconceptions surrounding her. That's what I feel. And I'm sure that this podcast showed you what the real Kareena Kapoor Khan is all about. Hopefully, she'll be back on TRS. And the next time, it's going to be in our studio. Make sure you go watch Crew. And make sure you keep watching. The Ranveer Show.

How do you feel now when you look back at your career? My biggest asset has been my confidence. People feel that I have inspired people or Geet has inspired people, that character so much.

But the Geet that she thinks with her heart, you don't see that nowadays. Even in the Gen Z I feel. Where do you get your gossip from?

I think from Instagram these days. What is Kareena the mom doing for her kids? In terms of what do you keep telling them? Right now it's just like don't fight with each other. Wait till the time they discover WWE.

They have because Taimur already has. So he's wearing his gloves and he's like, come on, come on. How do you dress at home? I dress like, I've been like, I'm good. So strange.

Saif today is like, God, to go to an event, so many people, so many clothes. What was the most attractive thing at first when you got to know Saif Ali Khan? I think I'm still discovering Saif.

Really? Yeah. You ever felt lonely, like throughout this journey?

A little bit. And of course, I think people will never really understand what you are feeling at that time. Because sometimes you have to do so many things for others, no matter what you are going through. That you are dying from 102 fever, but there is no one with you. They don't care.

There's really not much to say in this intro. It's Kareena Kapoor Khan on The Ranveer Show. Absolutely beautiful, in-depth conversation.

I honestly feel that there's very few Indians who've reached an out-and-out iconic. status and they've usually reached that point because of years of hard work years of self conditioning years of sacrifice that's what we tried speaking about today with kareena kapoor khan but it's also a fun conversation you'll get an insight into her mind into her heart and hopefully her soul her new film crew is releasing in theaters on the 29th of march make sure you go check it out but for now It's Kareena Kapoor Khan on The Ranveer Show. Ladies and gentlemen, today it's a beautiful day because the sun is shining outside the studio and inside the studio. We have Kareena Kapoor with us. Thank you.

Kareena Kapoor Khan. Yes. How are you? Very well, very happy to be here talking to you Ranveer and it's always nice because talking to you makes me feel like I've known you forever, somehow. Even when you came on my show, we met for the first time actually there.

I somehow feel like I've always known you. I feel the same. And it's not something I'm saying to just warm you up and to break ice here.

Yeah. But I felt it was very easy speaking with you for some reason. I don't know why. And I'd probably say that seeing Kareena Kapoor's career from the outside was really inspirational. Because since I was a kid, I was very messed up and deep.

So I would see it and I think that there's a lot of hard work and discipline that's going on here. But it's all behind the scenes. Yeah, it's all behind the scenes.

Everything should be behind the scenes. How do you feel now when you look back at just your career? I just look back at it as like, you know, I've done so many things that I've really wanted to do and enjoyed doing. I'm very, very lucky and one of those lucky few that I have actually enjoyed being on set every minute that I have from the age of 17 today. I'm 43 and I think that journey and that every day of me being in front of the camera, being on set, meeting my actors, directors, playing different roles has been, I think, something that has just given me so much happiness and so much joy.

And I'm very lucky that I love my job. Because if you don't really love what you're doing, it's very tough to keep doing it, to go ahead with it. And I feel most people somehow don't really get to enjoy their jobs.

Have you loved it throughout? I think I've loved it even before I face the camera. Because I think acting is a ghost, it's a intoxication in a good sense. And that is actually like a feeling of like, you know, that trance. I feel that trance every time I'm in front of the camera.

That's why every time you see a shot of mine. I'm giving it my 100%. I'm giving it my best because I love it so much.

Have you seen this Pixar film called Soul? called soul s-o-u-l no i haven't okay i highly recommend it okay i recommend you watch it with your kids like oh nice yeah of course but it's a very spiritual film oh nice and they talk about a state of flow in it and i've spoken about this a lot on the show it's basically what you're saying right right the best acting and best art always comes out of a deeper place yeah of course i think so and a deep place of like wanting to do your best giving your best somehow Have you ever had a role where you've really really had to go extremely deep within your own head to pull out that performance? Or do all your roles come out of like a similar place of just being Kareena Kapoor Khan? No, I think most people like to feel that because I make a lot of things look easy.

Yeah. But there are roles that I think I have given a lot to and in fact maybe those films haven't been... Box office successes, whether it was Laal Singh Chadda, whether it was Heroin, whether it was Tashan.

These are films that I loved and, you know, enjoyed doing and gave a lot to a lot of thought. Like Rupa was such a deep character in Laal Singh. Somehow she was dark but yet like a ray of sunshine. So, you know, doing those kind of parts really excite me.

Do you remember a chat we had on your show? Yeah, yeah. About bad girls and bad boys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't get a chance to expand on that thought. But what I was basically trying to say is that all of us are a little bit grey. Of course.

And those human beings, I think, are... The most interesting to play also. Yeah.

In terms of... The grey people are the most interesting in real life and the most interesting in the whole space. I think so, no?

Are you still like the same shade of grey that you were in your 20s? Or are you a different person now? In the 2020s? I think when I was in my 20s, Ranveer, I was a lot more like...

There's a different fire inside. There's a different spirit, a different spirit that has to prove that I have to be the best. I want to do this. That's a different kind of constantly on the go.

I have to do this, I have to do that, I have to do this film, I have to do that ad, you know, all of that. But I think now after having... Almost reached 25 years of my career.

There's a different kind of hunger. Hunger for a little bit of peace also in the characters that I play. A little bit of more deeper understanding.

Because as a human being also I have grown. And between 20 and 43, there's no growth as a person. I think there'll be no growth as an actor.

And I feel like I have grown as a person. Recently how? Recently how motherhood has changed me, being a wife has changed me. I think there are different types of responsibilities in life.

You're not chasing just that one end point. When you're in your 20s, success is everything. Box office hits are everything.

My life revolves on the fact that I need to prove myself as a good actor or a star. Now it's... I feel my mind has also expanded and my husband, my children, my friends have allowed me and helped me grow into, you know, the person I am and hopefully the person I will become. Is there a challenge at this stage? There's a challenge of, you know, how far I can go with mental peace, how far I can stretch myself to be at peace with myself.

And that is a constant battle which one has to keep, you know. doing can i add to your piece a little bit yeah of course so because you are the sunflower of india oh god something this is for you wow thank you so beautiful yeah i love sunflowers should i keep it here uh you can keep it next to you wherever you wish but uh this is actually what you are for a lot of india and i know this is a little gimmicky but no i i think getting flowers is Never a gimmick. I think it's so nice. You like receiving flowers? Yeah.

We thought long and hard about which ones to give you. Yeah, sunflower. There's no flower that I could think of that's as similar to your soul.

Like how we know Kareena Kapoor. I think that's a lovely compliment for me. Like, you know, whether it's you in a photo or you on screen, or I remember even like my early memories of seeing Kareena Kapoor, you always like stood out.

And that came from a place of like, deep internal self-confidence. That I understand right now. Yeah.

So were you acting with self-confidence then? Or like, was it actually that deep? You know, I'm actually... I can only act to play my characters. In real life, I don't think I can act.

Because I'm that kind of person that anything... It just shows on my face. It shows in my eyes.

That if the mood is bad... That I'm upset about something or... Anything, anything.

I'm extra happy. That's why when you see me, it's... Sometimes I'm like so happy.

I'm like all OTT over the top because I genuinely, it comes from that. I just react instantly to people, to things, to, you know, that I'm a very reactive person. And I think that has helped me. So self-confidence, I don't think it can, confidence is something that you can put on.

It was always there. You either have it or you don't have it. I don't remember you being without confidence.

No, in this profession, I think. My biggest ammunition and my biggest asset has been my confidence. And that's why I feel that maybe people feel that I have inspired people or Geet has inspired people, that character so much.

Because she was lovable but there was a confidence. That I'll go, I'll run away, I'll get married to that guy, I'll do it. That level of confidence, that level of innocence also, I think that is...

That is in me. Do you get bored of being asked Jab We Met questions? Because, see, the topic is very hot on reels and shorts. So if anyone talks about Jab We Met, it blows up on the algorithm. But it's just amazing because the film released recently and people were sending me videos because I have some of my own friends who went to watch it.

People have recited the whole film. They are like as though they are reading a book. They're just reading, they were saying the dialogues one after the other, not just mine but Shahid's, everybody's, every single character.

So it's just, the impact it has on people. So very few films in a person's career have that. Very few films in general age that well also. Yeah. And like, I think Geet as a character has influenced a lot of people's heads in general.

It's a very like, sunflower positive character. Yeah, somewhere, you know, that, I mean, you know, like 16, 17 years later, you're still giving examples of that, even though so many films have released. But I feel those love stories, these days, we're missing that.

Yeah, I feel the same. I feel the same about the film world in general all over the world. Like I remember growing up seeing a lot of rom coms.

I don't know where all the rom coms are. I don't know where they've gone. Where have they gone?

Yeah, where have they gone? Where have all the love stories gone? Where are all those Shah Rukh?

Kajol moments where are those I also miss those but what's the internal chatter in the film industry where have they gone now everyone is watching action hopefully you'll watch comedy next week so we're trying to bring back different genres but I think somehow the action films are appealing a lot to the audiences but I feel the audiences their tastes change also they like good films they are so accepting and Loving that the fact is that if you give them something that interests them, give them a good story, be it in any form, I think they just stick to it. Have you ever wondered about why Jab We Met was this evergreen? Because I'll give you a little Gen Z perspective on Jab We Met.

Yeah, of course, I'd love to know. There's a lot of green flag and red flag chatter. Like according to everyone, Anshuman was a red flag. Yeah, yeah, of course. And have you heard of the word situationship?

I mean, I've read like people say that. So there's a relationship. And then on the other end of the spectrum, there's like a casual, like friends with benefits.

This is somewhere in the middle. Where you're not, you're a friend with benefits with someone where there's also emotional benefits. That becomes a situation. So that's why people are connecting, you're saying?

Yeah, I think with time people are connecting. Jab Bhi Met with a lot of stuff that's happening in the 2020s. Yeah.

That's why everyone's like that film was way ahead of its time. Could be. Yeah, that's true.

What advice would you give Geet now? The character. With everything you've learnt about life.

I mean, Geet was somehow... Her innocence actually has taken her. And this longevity is because of her.

She did everything and thought so much from her heart. That nowadays people think from their mind. Which they should do sometimes in life. But Geet always thinks from her heart.

That you don't see nowadays. Even in the Gen Z I feel. So that's how somehow they are connecting that they also want to be like that.

You know? But somehow I feel people are thinking a lot more with their mind. in the 2020s but people are getting very effed up in the head nowadays like it's just it's just an outcome of living in the 2020s with social media and comparison and all that yeah that's what i sense is happening a lot and geet was pre-social media yeah i think that her innocence was still intact that's why people are connecting with the characters even more yeah i think so yeah it's scary but i mean like as much as i love it i love like i love instagram and i get to you know be in my bed and travel the world and but it's just I know how damaging like it could be to the mind and how carried away you know people can get with the way everything has to be like picture perfect everything has to be like get ready for the event be seen at this event go collect this award do this.

Itna pressure aagaya hai ki we're I think we're somewhere in between we're like also forgetting to like you know live a little bit. For ourselves, for our families, for our friends, enjoy the moments. Like every dinner, at least three times we have to tell our friends or each other, come on, leave that phone.

Chalo, phone bandh karo. So I think it's like we're just caught up in so many things. So I feel we should still bring back that Geet innocence. And that's why people are still loving that and going to see that film.

Is Geet inside Kareena Kapoor or is Kareena Kapoor inside Geet? Simpler way of asking. Yeah, right?

Is there a Geet inside you? Like, are you that person completely? Completely. I think I am that person.

Because Geet always thought from her heart. And I honestly, Ranveer, in my life, I have taken every decision from my heart. I have never taken it by thinking. Otherwise, you can see my career graph. You can see some people will say, Oh, she said no to this film, that film, this film, that film.

And there are so many discussions about that, that sometimes I'm like, okay, right? You know, every film has its destiny. It wasn't written in my destiny, it was written in someone else's destiny. It's fine.

But I have always taken my decisions from my heart. That I want to do this. This is what I want to do right now, this is what I don't want to do right now. So that's why I feel somewhere you're, you know, you associate the sunflower girl in me. Because, you know, I'm a bit of that also.

How's life right now? How's life right now? Exciting?

I'm very, very excited for Kru. All-female-centric kind of film, comedy. Excited to have collaborated with my long-time producers, Ria and Ekta.

We're an all-women kind of army. Tabu, Kriti, all of us. I feel like in between so many action films, there's a... female heist Ocean Eleven's Ocean's 8 kind of vibe film comedy nice if it comes you've always seen the males do it but now I think we're ready for the female kind of heist comedy which I think it is I think girls have generally gotten very active in content which is very good which is very good I think we had had this discussion that time as well there's a lot of female content creators coming up lots of girls are expressing themselves more on social media which is great which is great and which I think is great for them For themselves, for their self-confidence, for their mental health.

Conversations are on. Women are in the forefront. I mean, I think everywhere around the globe.

So, I'm happy that it's a good time. So, I'm very confident again that I feel people will enjoy watching us. Do you change with every film?

Or do you stay the same? No, I think I should change with every film. I mean, in terms of... In terms of look, I don't know.

Size, look, those are all things that don't bother me as much. But I should change, my character should change, the way I perform should change. Things like that should change. When you went down to size zero, I remember this was like what India was obsessed with at that point.

Oh god, yeah. Was there a downside of that that didn't come out in the public? Or was that still easy for you because what I can tell about you is now... especially after speaking to you but i could tell this even then like you're very deeply ambitious so like or in that phase for sure yeah no i'm i'm i'm ambitious you have read me well i am ambitious but i'm not ambitious to the point that i would harm myself my mental frame of mind you tend to when ambition is so high in your life that you have nothing else to look forward to so i'm not i'm not like that but i'm ambitious did you ever Harm your like mental health.

No. Size zero also I took that time. I took almost a year, year and a half to get into that. Look.

And it was like a challenge. That I said, that I have to do it once in life. For this action film. Because I've never done an action film actually after that also.

That I have to do this in life, so I have to do this. Would you do it again? Now I think that we're living in a generation where everything is accepted.

And I wouldn't like to say that, okay, this certain body type would be accepted for an action film or this not. I think today everything and everyone... can do what they want to do.

So, I think I'm ready for an action film now also. I don't need to be a size zero. I have like too many questions.

Okay, and I mean, I'm going to be like very straightforward. Okay. So, normally we shoot in a studio and the studio has its own energy. Yeah.

So, I'm able to go way deeper into my guest's mind also. Okay. And that's usually the theme of this show.

because I get to meet people from a lot of industries and get to gauge where people are. So I'm still trying to get closer to the real arena. And then what will happen? Then you will assess me and will you say something?

I can say so much even now, but we'll hold that for the end of the podcast. How are you feeling till this point? I really like, enjoy talking to you because I think you are also honest. You come across as very honest and come across as somebody who is an interviewer who...

Most people like I feel, when we do interviews, they ask questions but don't want to hear the answer. They want to go to the next question. That you know, what is it? Okay, I've asked her.

So the interviewer is asking the question but not really listening to the interviewee. You know, so I like to talk to people where they would also engage me and actually try to, like you said, you know, kind of understand or get into my mind i think an interview now is for uh the tabloids and the headlines and the clicks a podcast is for the heart yeah so i'm i'm actually doing it for me then that's very good because that that's why i'm happy i'm here i would ask you these same questions if you gave me the time at a party or a social function also these are just my actual questions yeah which is good that's why it's different I'd also ask you for gossip. That I don't have. You said that you have so many different celebrities, guests.

So you should know. I am like, I have this reputation. Yeah, why? I don't know.

I think just like that. I think I have no time to have also so much information. Nowadays, everything comes on Instagram. Where do you get your gossip from? I think from Instagram these days.

You're active on Insta? I mean, as active as one can be, you know. You enjoy it? I enjoy it. I have to say that the journey started slow for me because I was new to it.

But now I'm enjoying it. Like, I'm enjoying the fact that, okay, everybody's posting pictures. I'll post pictures.

But then, if I know it's getting too much into my personal space, then I pull back. Then I'm like, no, no, no. The thing you said about social media affecting mental health. Does it affect Kareena Kapoor Khan? No.

Because everyone else would feel a sense of comparison. Yeah. I don't think there's anyone you'd compare yourself with. There's nothing.

People compare themselves to you. No, no, nothing like that. I feel like I would, I, even if, you know, sometimes there's a thought in my mind, but I'm always like, I don't want to, like, it's okay, you know.

And I wouldn't want to compare because I know that there's place for everybody. Have you been competitive earlier in life? I mean, I think I definitely, in my 20s and 30s, I must have surely been for sure. For sure. Because, like I said, you know, that time when you're younger, I think that energy goes to a different level.

Your wavelength, you're on a different wavelength in your 20s, 30s. That's why in so many interviews I've also said that I never want to go back to that time. I'm very much at peace now.

Now I'm like if I know that like this is it and like I'm taking like 10-15 days off from work I'm confident that I'm going to do this and this is what I want to do and then nothing can change my mind you know from that. But earlier we never wanted that we don't want a holiday because then it used to happen that if there is a holiday then there is no work. You know you should have 5 films, you should have 10 films.

Now it's like you know. In your head. you were aiming only for the top always it was always like I want to climb up the mountain was that what was going on in your head? my mom always told me if you aim for the stars you'll end up on the tree So she was like, always keep your aim as high as high can be. And then wherever you land, we'll land.

Okay, another straight question, okay? About this came to peace with things. I have a lot of friends in the world of acting, okay?

And I have a lot of friends in media in general, but I see this specifically with actors. Actors are usually like the best looking people in any friend group or anywhere they go. But in their heads, they're not good looking. Okay.

Have you ever had that doubt? No, I don't. You've always known that you're gorgeous. I don't want to lie. Because if I say that, I'm not that girl.

So I can't lie. Have you had any insecurity related to looks? No, I have not.

I don't think so. I think I get it from my parents. I can't. I don't want to say.

That, oh, okay, I am. Because I'm not that person, so I don't want to. And if I lie, I guess you'll catch me.

And this show is a podcast, as you said. So you'll know from my eyes. And then the world will know.

So I'd rather answer straight. That I have no qualms at all. I have no doubt in my mind. You've been in the limelight over so long that people know your character.

But there's still parts of you that people don't understand that are hidden. Yeah. Which is...

The art of stardom according to me at least. Completely. Right?

Creating an interest, that is also part of stardom. Which not everyone understands nowadays. No.

Right? That doesn't exist anymore. I'm sorry, I'm being honest. No, it's fine. The line has completely gone.

It's sad. Do you? I feel bad. Why do you feel bad?

For this generation because there is no such thing. Because one... It was a different time, you know, where there was a different reach. And also, I just feel like the way I have been, I've been extremely honest with my fans, audiences, everyone as much.

And they also respect a lot of my private life, you know, like with the kids or the family or whatever. I also put it a lot on social media and, you know. We are from a film family, so it will always be in the limelight.

And we do that. But I think that there is a side to them that wo automatically ek hai, that people know that, okay, this is it. How did Kapoor Khan Daan blood feel running through your veins in your childhood? I didn't, there was never a, I don't think we realised that what, you know.

family yeah my family I never really thought because my parents never really let me feel that my mother was extremely she came from a very very middle-class family um and she was my father my nana was also an actor character he acted in a lot of films in different roles so but we were never really meant to feel like You know that we come from this family or like what my we didn't even know because I mean like going to a shoot the first shoot I went on was like when I was I think eight or nine years old at Chintu Uncle shoot. In Kashmir he was doing a film with Rekha ji and we had gone Ranbir and all of us had gone for that shoot. I think it was Sheshnag one of the films I don't remember and it was being shot in Gulmarg.

So it was actually the first time you know like I had remembered that I had seen a shoot. Before that I know that when I was very small, I was at my father's set. He had done a film with Amit uncle called Pukar.

And in that film I had gone for the shoot. But I was like barely one year old or something. So I have no memory that I was ever made to feel. In those days it was like my grandfather and all. They were also like very like chill, relaxed.

Nobody had this media chaos. There was paparazzi culture. There was never, nobody felt that they were really big stars or superstars.

My family was also very into passionate, my grandfather was very passionate about art, music, cinema. He would play the harmonium, he would make his songs. We've always heard him sing like that.

Never any thought, show-shabazi type of thing. There was never. It's an art-oriented family, first and foremost. Yes, because we were always, whether it was Shashi uncle who was into theatre. Shami uncle and my grandfather were very passionate about films, music.

So I'm saying that it was never really thought that, yes of course parties and all I'm sure happened but we were never part of that. And then of course my mum... moved on and we were shown a childhood that was very very basic and simple my mom used to make me go and drop me to the school bus my mom still today has no idea of this paparazzi culture and she's like i don't understand what is this of course she's like you must work and work when i see you on the silver screen or when i see your film then i will tell you how good or bad you are this is not all that you are doing this or that And today they don't even understand that culture.

That the paps are running after you. Why are they running after you? Yeah, okay.

But for them it's like, act well. Make a good picture. Your mom's contributed to your personality too much. As is the case with anyone. Anyone's mom contributes a lot.

But I feel with especially career oriented people. A career so multifaceted. That one of your parents usually plays a very big role.

in creating mindset and whatever I've seen about you talking on other interviews you always bring it up when you're talking about confidence yeah personality now you're bringing it up when you're talking about ambition also of course I feel you get it like from your mom definitely I do because my mom is very self-made and she's she's a very very strong woman whoever in the industry also when you talk about my mom they will tell you she is that kind of lady she was like known like as the iron lady because she was very like strong about the way her children were how you know like women in the family should work she always asserted for the right things you know how were you as a teenager i was very naughty i was very naughty i troubled her a lot but you were good at studies no i mean i was good yeah like 65 70 percent i was very good and like i had interest i enjoyed going to school i went to a boarding school i enjoyed all of that But I was naughty. Was she grooming you to become Garena Kapoor then? So I think that she was very strongly involved in my sister's career. You know, a lot more. Because Karishma also started at 14 and it was a different time.

And she was actually one of the first in the family who actually, you know, was working. People used to say that light-eyed girls never make it in Bollywood. As if old, old kind of thoughts were there. And my mom was like, no. And sister really wanted to act.

So, she had a huge hand in that. And then, of course, I think that paved the way for me. But little Kareena Kapoor was just like watching all that. Watching, constantly. And like also being...

For me, I feel like I've lived two careers. Like I know before things can happen, I know exactly how it's going to pan out. Sometimes I like get scared.

Because I know. Because I've seen so much. I mean, I've seen my sister's career. My sister started shooting at the age of 15. I'm six years younger than her.

I was there when she gave her first shot. So I've seen her journey. You know, like, I mean, like I was what?

I mean, seven years old. I was Taimur's age. So I mean, for me, I've been seeing it since then.

So I think I'm lucky enough to have that guidance also. Like you said, not just watching in the wings. It was literally like that.

It can be a movie like through my eyes. Yeah. What was it like growing up in front of the world?

Because your debut happened when I think you were 7, when you were a teenager. Yeah. No, I started shooting at 18. 18. Film released in 2000. I was 20. But you're still growing up in front of the world. Like 20 is too young in terms of, I was an idiot when I was 20. Yeah, I wasn't doing the regular things at 20. You can say that.

College, restaurants, parties, friends'houses, sleepovers. I never had that normal. Was there a price you paid in your own eyes? This only? Letting go of all this stuff?

I think so. You thought about it then? I mean, that's when that ambition was there.

That this is more important. That I want to be an actor. And for that, I have to maybe sacrifice a lot or do this.

That passion was there. So I never really thought about that. But now when I sit back and look and think, that what is normal, like, you know, sleeping over at friends'homes, you know, just chilling that time with your friends. I am working since I was 18. That chilling and all, now I feel sometimes I take out time and want to chill with my friends. Because 18 to like, you know, almost 30, I don't remember a time that, we didn't even know that time, that what is it like to party?

What is the meaning of that? Our parties were like We're on a shoot We're sitting and chilling With our crew With our people Growing up In that We grew up on that set So that was life So which is... Would you change anything? No.

Fully like love the journey and everything? I love the journey. I love the mistakes.

I love the journey. I love the... Every single thing. Because I've learnt everything here. Would you want your kids to become actors?

Or is it too early to... Seven and three, yeah. I think it's... It's too early. I would definitely want them to take their decision.

They're great looking boys. They are, but they have to fly their own way. That's their journey. And both Saif and me are very different because we both have had such strong journeys in our individual life.

So both of us are very individually very strong parents in our thoughts, in our approach. Plus, we've always lived our life the way we want to live our life. That we will never tell our children what to do. So, let them fly. They'll figure out their direction somewhere or the other, where they have to land.

What's the main advice you're giving them at this stage? Because I know you get asked a lot of questions about the paparazzi angle. I don't ask you that, but I'm sure as a parent, there's a human side to you, which is also thinking about...

You know, your son's long-term self-image, like what your mom did for you. Yeah, of course. So what is Kareena, the mom, doing for her kids?

In terms of what do you keep telling them? Right now, it's just like, don't fight with each other. Because right now, also, we were at home and I was getting ready and suddenly I hear Saif screaming on top of his voice.

And I was like, what happened? And he's yelling, you will not do that, you will not. Because right now it's just pulling them apart.

Because they're both finding their identities right now. And Taimur is now the older brother. So he's like, bullying him, pushing him. The little one is just trying to be like, but I'm also.

You can't do that to me. So right now it's like, both Saif and me are like, what's happening? It's like so difficult.

We didn't think that we're two boys. It's like crazy. And they're both very strong individuals.

You can tell from now, you know. They have their own personality because my younger one is like, I'm not going to be a... You know the younger sibling always has that, huh?

Push over. Yeah. The older sister will always have that, the older brother. So he's like, I'm not a push over.

This is mine. You will not come to my room. So I'm like, yaar ye to sir filmon mein dekha tha.

Ab to life mein ho raha hai. You know when boys are growing up with each other? violence is their love language oh no so there's a lot more wait till the time they discover WWE they have because Taimur already has so he's wearing his gloves and he's like come on come on and I'm like he's three and he's like doing these flying kicks and some bicycle kicks and I'm just like oh man nice fun yeah it's fun I'm learning also because you know we come from a all women household so what's it like Seeing boys. Just boys.

Yeah. I'm like, you know, I need somebody like, I need Saif to tell me that it's fine. Relax. Just chill out.

It's okay. It happens. It happens. You know. So, it's just crazy, man.

It's just like every day there's, every 15 minutes their mood changes. And I've realized they only want to run and they only want to eat food. They only want, give me food and they want to run. They want to run.

Football and cricket and yeah, that's it. One minute, they don't just want to sit for a second. Hmm, sounds familiar.

You were like that. To all the guys. All, all, all, I think boys are like that when they're growing up.

Yeah, right? You have a need for inflicting pain upon your sibling, but it's actually love. You never cross a threshold with the pain you're inflicting. Yeah. Even when you're a kid.

And then, if like I fire Jay and I'll say, why did you kick Taimur? Then Taimur will start crying. So I'm like, but I'm firing him for you. Why are you crying?

He's like, don't talk to Jay like that. I'm like, they'll figure it out. Brotherhood.

It's wholesome. Exactly. I think so.

Did you receive flying kicks from Karishma Kapoor? No, but like, I'm still very assertive with her. I think.

It is always the other way around. I was hug-jumming on her. There is, I can't believe I'm giving you a football example. But still, to explain.

So there's a pair of footballers called Kevin Prince Boateng and Jerome Boateng. They grew up in a ghetto. Kevin Prince was also great.

He was the older one. So are they playing now? They're just about to retire.

So Taimur might know them. Yeah. They were playing for what? Bayern Munich.

Oh, he loves Bayern Munich. So, they say that the younger one became a legend because the older one who's also great protected the younger one always. I'm actually comparing this to Karishma Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor also. In terms of, I'm sure she's given you like a lot of mentoring, guidance.

Of course. She is like, I mean like, she's like my go-to for everything. Like I just call her for every little thing.

And honestly, she's like the anchor of the family. Because everyone in my family, which is the Kapoors, as well as the Patodis, only call Karishma. They'll all call her.

So she's like, whatever happens, call Lolo. If you need a doctor, who do you need? Call Lolo. Any problem, this problem has happened, I need a cook, I need this, Karishma will know.

So, you know, she's like, because she has this very strong personality, you know. She takes control. takes charge of everything. She always has the right thing to say. So I think that she just draws people towards her.

How does sisterhood evolve? Best friends. From like looking up to the older sister to wanting to be like her to now like I think pretty much equals and best friends. I think we have that equation now where we can tell each other that oh I didn't like this or... I don't like this.

And there's a certain amount of respect that comes in when you're in your 40s and 50s. And we're six and a half years apart. So it's...

We're more like friends. Like, you know, who respect each other. Like, she respects my space as well. You know, if I don't want to talk. And I vice versa.

Do you have days like that? I think so. We all...

Yeah, right? I can't... I mean, see, this is the curse of your fame. Like, I've seen your fame... for a big section of my life.

So I really can't imagine you pissed off out and out. You know what I mean? I can't imagine you sad or pissed off or anything.

No, sad is different. Pissed off is different. My anger is like, I'm like a soda bottle. I'll just go, go, go, go, go, react. And then after that, I've forgotten also about it.

Like exactly five minutes later, I'm just like... I've forgotten what the issue is. I'm like, what is the issue?

I've moved on to another topic. So when I'm fighting with Saif also, he's like, but you said you're pissed off. I'm like, yeah, yeah, but now I'm fine. So I'm from a generation of urban men, all of whom have a man crush on your husband. Oh, really?

I know, I've heard that before. Like, any guy who I've grown up with loves Saif Ali Khan. Whenever Saif Ali Khan's name is taken, there's a lot. And I told him this on the show as well.

That he's taught an entire generation how to be cool. Yeah, completely. The entire 2000s Dil Chaata Hai Time, Hum Tum Salaam Namaste, Bing Cyrus. An entire generation was written coolness. I mean, today you can't, I don't think any actor, he's also quite irreplaceable in those parts.

Like, I don't know, like if Kalona had to be made again, I can't see anyone play that part. Because Zaev is just, he has that vibe like, you know. Relax.

And also like he can talk shit very well. Yeah. And still be manly.

Yeah. And intellectual. And intellectual.

So that combination doesn't happen these days. What was the most attractive thing at first? And then during the honeymoon phase, what was the most attractive when you got to know Saif Ali Khan? I think of course the first was the fact that he's I think extremely handsome. And he was like.

I mean, when I saw him first, I was like, I've never seen somebody so handsome and so like good looking and, you know, has that natural. Royal aura. Yeah, like he just had a natural glint in his eye that was like really charming.

And, you know, he also has very kind eyes, which I think women like in men where they look that when you have an eye that's so kind, where you feel like it's a natural caring kind eyes that he has. So I think that was the first thing. and then of course I mean like I think I'm still discovering Saif really yeah I know him there's no one better in the world who knows Saif than me and I can confidently say that he also knows that like I know exactly what he's thinking and what he's gonna think next but I think you're always because you're a partner and you are also always evolving you know so we're gonna keep discovering each other which I think is nice but his intelligence like one of the core reasons no but his intelligence this idea of says intelligent I don't know where of course he's always like Why do always, why is everybody saying that, okay, he reads books because books, reading books, books are meant to be read and it's the most normal thing ever.

So I'm like, yeah, I don't know. So he's like, yeah, I don't know. Intelligent in the sense, he thinks, he thinks, you know, and he's, yeah, he's, I mean, well read because he's interested in reading, you know, but I mean, He's not interested in worldly politics. I don't know. It's not like he's some economist or something like that.

He's not. That's why there's peace in his eyes. Yeah, exactly.

He's not like, I don't understand anything. He's like, I also am as normal and whatever. This stereotype comes from one of the older Coffee with Karan episodes that you were on where you said, you caused this stereotype.

I've caused it. What did I say that he reads? Yeah, you said something like, They don't make men like that anymore who read and who are intellectual.

I mean, intellectual in the sense that maybe he thinks a lot more. So... More deeply.

Yeah, let's... You know, this is like my 650th something episode. He was my 9th or 8th episode, something like that. So I wasn't...

Then you should talk to him now. Yeah, you make it happen. No, but my point is, I wasn't prepared.

to do a good podcast with him that time because i was also too young yeah now i think after this i'm going to tell him that it's been like it's fun and you'll get to like speak a lot of what and people will get to know the deep deeper side to you yeah uh i again people i'm getting to know the deeper side of you right now which is which is again like i've what you said not key uh whatever inside is happening on your face yeah yeah it's a very punjabi thing uh-huh my my whole you Like my nature is like my mom, but my entire personality is born Punjabi. I mean, I am like a chapa of my father and I have no bones about it. And if anybody has problems, I don't care.

I am like this only. I am like, me and my father are mirror images of each other. Like our sense of humor, the way we eat, the way we talk, the way we... Like Sid, he also enjoys all these comedy movies. And like my tastes.

Like I'm just born and bred like a Punjabi. Full on. What's your favorite food other than Chinese food? It is Chinese, right?

No, Chinese of course because I think all the kapoors are obsessed with Chinese. But my hardcore food is the hardcore desi Punjabi food. Kadhi chawal, rajma chawal, I'm like hardcore into all of that. That's comfort food.

That is not comfort. That is like my proper khana. In the day, like I mean come what may, mere ghar pe toh like, like Saif eats, he eats very spartan in the day.

Like he likes to because he's working in the day and he's whatever. So he's like vegetarian and he'll like, you know like. Simple dal sabzi. And he can eat that every day. In the day he prefers.

So, he likes the fact that, you know, he'll eat the same food every day. The dal and sabzi. That gobi and bhindi ka sabzi will be made every day.

But for me, it's like with a passion, I like tell my cook knows. Like one day there's rajma, one day there's kadhi chawal, one day there's chana. Like that, it has to, you know that.

Punjabi taste has to be there. 100%. That is, and my food is totally different from these three. So.

These three. Kids also. So they eat like him. They also eat like him.

My younger one is more like me because he also is like that paratha and white butter and all of that. For me, that is like my daily food. One meal I have to have that.

And cheat meals? But I'm eating parathas every 2-3 days. What do you like in Chinese food? I like Punjabi Chinese. Huh?

That Manchurian and Chow Mein. I'm telling you, it's crazy. My taste is like that. Like now also talking about food, I'm like, oh God, wow.

Too good. So, but that is the real Geet also. That Punjabian, that is me also. A little bit.

Sundays are nice because in my house I'll have Sindhi curry, potato too. Otherwise I'll have biryani. Cookie roti.

Cookie roti. You're Sindhi? I have a lot of Sindhi friends.

Haan. That's cookie. Cookie.

I've grown up. My mom is also half Sindhi. So that combination is very scary. Can you speak Sindhi?

No. You can understand? No. You feel Sindhi on the inside?

No, I feel full Punjabi. Yeah? Yeah.

I can't speak Punjabi but I can understand when Punjabis are talking. I know. Also because I love the sound of the language. This is a very Bombay Punjabi thing to say.

Yeah. Same. It's very sweet.

That internally you are very Punjabi but you can't speak Punjabi? Yeah, because I'm born in Bombay. But I feel like I'm full...

Desi. Yeah, Punjabi Desi. That look that people know that is me only. That I am for sure. I feel there's a lot of similarities between you and your cousin Ranbir Kapoor also.

Yeah, I know. A lot of people say that also. He also is, I think, similar because he has an attitude and a confidence and an air that again is just nobody has, I think.

In the Indian film industry. I'm very biased. I don't look biased but I don't even actually think I'm biased because I genuinely think there's no one like Ranbir Kapoor.

It's those Raj Kapoor genes that have like trailed down. He is so like a deadly combination yaar because Chintu uncle also is such a fine actor. Neetu aunty is such a great actress. Plus he has, usme toh poora koot koot ke jo andar rakha hai na.

That usme poora bharah bharah hai. What do people not know about him? And or the question could be how is he like as a brother? I think Ranbir also is like, I find Ranbir and Saif also are very similar. Extremely kind.

Also they have very kind eyes. Even Ranbir's eyes are very kind. You know, because he's genuinely.

Also I think he's a very no-nonsense person. I think if he really likes you, he likes you. If he doesn't like you, he's the kind of person to. You know, he doesn't make too much of an effort then.

You know, what you see is what you get. Extremely loving, also very charming. I think that's why he has the entire nation dancing to his tunes. So I think that he's also very unique, I think, in a way.

I think if you're not charming, you can't have a film career. Because the charm shows up on screen, but you also need it in the off-camera role. Yeah, and it has to be natural.

It can't be put on. That put on, I think people pick up. So I feel Ranbir has a very natural air to him. Where did this darkness that we see in Animal come from? Like in his eyes, like the way he's delivering some of those scenes.

Like, I'm like, how did he become that person in that scene? Like, and I'll tell you the other way of asking the same question. The same thought has been pitched by me to Mukesh Chhabra on the show.

I'm asking about what creates a good actor. And it was like life experiences. Then it went into this whole nepotism, like conversation.

And then he said, That, but the exception is Ranbir Kapoor, Kareena Kapoor. So I tried asking him, what's special about you guys? So he said that usually people who are good actors are also very empathetic.

And perhaps empathy runs in that gene pool. That you can pick up other people's emotions much more easily. Yeah. I'm sorry, I know this is like too deep. No, but empathy is such an important aspect, you've said.

It is. In your performance, to... be empathetic towards another person and to feel that what the other characters are also feeling and to bring out that emotion is also so important so empathy is very important in performances you can read other people easily i think yeah and that's tiring why because then you can read you know exactly like what that person is what the person is going to say whether they actually mean it that's why i like to keep my circle small you Because it also tires you, drains you, right?

Plus everyone's viewing you with the Nazar of, oh I'm talking to Kareena Kapoor. Yeah. That gets tiring? Of course that gets tiring.

Gets tiring little bit, right? Little bit, now it does, right? So now you just want to like, be yourself and... With YouTube fame, which is hyper niche, I feel tired.

So I can't imagine what your reality is in terms of stamina and exhaustion. I don't know how to... I mean explain it but that's why I always I think off late because obviously I mean I've been around for so long I keep my circle small I don't do too many interviews I don't like to do too much because I'm like Abhi you know you should also enjoy your stardom and your fans from watching you also on your screen on the screen because you have there's always going to be a part of you little bit in each character you know that you kind of pick up that's also important So I want people to pick up that also through each film.

Have you ever felt lonely throughout this journey? Well, I mean, of course, I think people... You will never really understand what you are feeling at that time because sometimes you have to do so many things for others no matter what you are going through.

You are dying of 102 fever but there is no one with you. They don't care. You have to give a shot, you have to go, you have to go.

And people have done that. So what you are feeling inside, sometimes nobody, how much can they understand? Just to be a professional.

This, in this job, yes. Plus, you know, people will... There is no sick leave.

There's also no room to have a bad day if you're going out in public. Having the worst day, people will... There's no room to feel emotion for anything apart from that you have to make sure that you're just being that perfect star at that time. So many things can be happening.

So many... I mean anything. Could have had a fight with my mom, could have had a fight with my son, with anything.

But at that time, it just has to be you and the camera. In that sense, this profession is... That is the demandingness.

Not that you're promoting, going to an event, all that, of course, that also is demanding. That has now taken out the juice of becoming an actor, being an actor also, or being a star, you know? But it's the internal emotion that if tomorrow anything is happening around you, anything, somebody could be dying, but if you're in the shot, that's it. It's just you and the camera.

It's very selfish, but... That's the price you have to pay. And that's what I feel is demanding. All these other things are all unnecessary.

They're not important. I mean. Like events, doing this, doing that, film promotions, all that is all temporary. It doesn't, honestly, it doesn't matter. That is not demanding.

Just this craft aspect. Craft. You always have to give that 200% even if you're... That is where the job is demanding.

Is your craft going on outside of a film set ever? No. As in, in the sense, performing or... No, I mean when you go out in public, you are maintaining that brand.

That of course has to happen. How do you dress at home? I dress like I've been like, so strange. Saif today is like, God. To go to an event, so many people, so many clothes.

He's like, what has happened to actors? I said, I don't know. I don't want to do this. I want to also just go like, you know, in fun. You know, like, you know, earlier we would do interviews also.

Sometimes in my old interviews, I'm wearing some dirty t-shirt and jeans. But I'm like, that had its charm. But I don't know. Nowadays, there's a lot of pressure.

Like, look, hot, diva. Everyone wants to be that. There's so much pressure on fashion.

So, I mean, you know, I guess... You look like a diva even in the t-shirt and jeans. Yeah, but that's what I'm like, I'm happy. So, he's like, why are you doing all this? He's like, the entire house has been taken over with clothes and like people.

So, he's like, is this really... What it is, I'm like, yeah. I think that old time is going to come back now.

That's my thoda gut feel. I hope so, yeah. You don't feel so? I hope so, honestly. I have like one more compliment for you.

Okay? You should just deliver the compliment. Apart from the sunflower.

There's a, this whole podcast has been a string of compliments. No, no. But I'm also carrying all the compliments I got from people who I told about this podcast.

Like I always talk to these people who are very, like deeply, like you know, they're film nerds. And the film industry nerds. Oh, really? And lots of people are Kareena Kapoor fans. Huh.

So, most people told me to ask you about the following topic, okay? Okay. Before I tell you the topic, I'll tell you the compliment.

The compliment is, like, we spoke about this whole tiring thing. It gets demanding. Okay? And it's been a while that you've been, like, relevant.

Yeah, yeah. The fight for relevance is, it doesn't just happen. There's hard work, there's discipline, there's working on being, like, you know, on... exhausted days you have to still yeah yeah um but it doesn't ever show up on your face usually with a lot of people who age yeah their noor goes away like you know but uh sadi toh ae Rihanna ae Beyonce no no I don't know why where that came from how how how is your noor still like there like what's happening in your heart because I feel the day I you This hunger.

So it's strange because it's like I'm at peace with myself, like with whatever, but I'm still hungry for... More. I'm satisfied but I'm not satiated, if I'm making sense.

Like you feel gratitude for everything that's there already and everything that's happened? Of course. But some more feel even better. It's more like that hunger should constantly be there.

And there should always be a feeling of like, but I can do that. The day that goes away, I will just be like, I'm done. So that is still there.

But it might go, I don't know, 5, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, I don't know. Like people who know me say that I'll be working till I'm 80. Because they know me. And I always say that, oh yeah, yeah, whatever, now I don't. But I always feel like, no, but I can do that. But I can do this film, but I can do that.

So that is what keeps you, you know, on your... toes are you doing it for someone are you doing it for your mother are you doing it for your kids no i'm doing it for myself i'm doing it for myself my kids like today my son has asked me that again you're doing makeup mama you like makeup lots i think so he's still figuring out but it's not that i'm doing it for myself i'm doing it to be you know satisfied satiated for myself be happy And to prove to myself that, you know, that I want to always be this person that you've just asked me this question that hopefully 25 years later, also, you might ask me this question. What's been like the most difficult phase through all this?

Has there been any phase that stood out as like, that was challenging? I mean, a phase, I think that in 25 years, there's been too many ups and downs. In fact, the amount of failures I have seen. If you go back to a trajectory of my career, there have been a string of flops that have happened. And if it happened to anybody, honestly, nobody would survive this.

Nobody. But we never talk about that because there is a certain... Aura. Or perception.

There is a feeling that that's her or whatever. And I've never let people feel that. Because maybe I've been good in those films or however it is, I've worked hard for that. But there have been a string of films that have not worked before Jab Bheemet. Where I've always tried to be like, okay, none of the films are working, what's going to happen now?

And a lot of things, people don't know that after, before Jab Bheemet, I had not worked for a year. I had said no to so many films and I was at home. Because I was like, so many films are not doing well, I need to take a step back to reassess why the hell this is happening, to wait for that perfect script, which will come. Which might take a year or two, but I must be prepared to pull back. Why was it happening?

Because you were rushing with like... Yeah, just doing any and every film. Not really thinking maybe about it. Films were not working at the box office.

And ultimately, box office success is important. At the end of the day... Numbers matter.

You are chasing that. Whatever it is, we are chasing the craft. We are chasing the art.

But with art, we are also chasing the fact that... This longevity has happened also because of the box office hits. Also, yes, of course, like you said, my confidence, personality, blah, blah, blah.

Of course, my performances that I have been at it. That gumption is there. But we can't deny that.

We can't take away from that also. Did you internalize the pain of those failures? Or did you just let go of it?

No, of course, I was very upset. I was like traumatized. I would sleep.

I haven't. cry myself to sleep for many nights that why my film's not working what am what is it that is happening that like everybody because even people were like she's so good but that one film it was it just needed that one turn which was not happening so that phase will always happen I think none in 25 years I feel in fact my I'm known more for my failures than my successes if my failures were not known Then I would not have that one, you know, feeling of, wow, okay, that success that has happened. Do you realize that at this stage, you're beyond failure and success?

I'm sorry, I'm softening it for you because I know you've got a whole warrior spirit about going for success. So I don't mean to take away from that at all. Yeah. Like, I admire that about you.

But there's very few people who've gone and reached that icon status out of... Years of hard work behind them. But I never want to know that.

Sorry. I never want to get into this comfort zone. I want to know that this picture has to work. How does it have to work? What do we have to do?

We have to give it our best. Let's make it work. What is it like? How do we improve it?

Let's try and do that. So that feeling has to be there. Because otherwise then... What's the meaning of life? Yeah.

So I don't want to ever have that feeling. Do you have a visual of your 70s and 80s in your head? With Ranveer doing another podcast. I don't know what is your thing.

You don't want to. Maybe you don't want to be doing podcasts. I don't know what you want to do. I want to leave civilization. And that's not something cool.

Like actually. I don't want to do that. You want to be in Mumbai? I don't know Mumbai or where now. I don't know wherever now once the kids grow up.

who knows I don't know maybe somewhere in the hills in the mountains yeah same maybe we'll be neighbours Dharamshala yeah somebody somewhere beautiful hills you know I mean we are I mean of course I think our country is gorgeous and we've never really not even had the time to explore it you know so I keep seeing images where I would like to go you know And who knows, a retired life somewhere. Kasoli times. So beautiful. Deeper.

Deeper into the mountains. Deeper into the mountains. That you will go. What do you want from life? I mean, for me, I just want to be like happy and content.

In the middle of both. You're there right now? The middle of both. I think I'm happy being with my family, my children and my husband. I think that gives me a lot.

My work gives me that. But I think one has to keep striving to find that perfection. And we don't know if it's actually there is perfection or not. No one really knows that. People who are not Kareena Kapoor know that perfection exists.

No, I think... I am also a completely imperfect. I am, I mean, I'm also like, you know, trying to also figure out what to do, what not to do.

Half of my life is spent satisfying people about what happens, right? What do they want? What do they need?

What do I need to do? What do I want to do? That is, comes later. So that has just started. What I want to do.

You do a very good job of not letting people know these things. that's what I'll say because it's a lot of common narratives about you in people's heads and there is no envy that I sense from anyone there's a lot of aspiration guys, girls everyone like loves your family life loves what you've done with your work and at the core loves your self confidence yeah I think that's where it comes from everything like everyone now deals with some level of um A lack of self-love. And we sense that you're at the other end of the spectrum. You know, that someone...

Like poo. Yeah. You know? That's why those characters are iconic.

They are more relevant now than then. Yeah. Evergreen. Because people want to be that.

Yeah. Still. It's not there in the world. Before we let you go, Kareena, you want to talk a little bit about Kru?

I think it's a really cool, fun film. I think... I think... After days of action action films, a good comedy film is coming out. And also it's like it's fun, it has this all women centric, women kind of female energy which is fun.

Like there's Tabu, Kriti, me, I think. Yeah, I think that people are looking forward to that little mad crazy fun friendship film which I think this is. And hopefully our people will love me because it's comedy after a long time that I'm doing.

And all of us need that. I think all of us need that now in the cinemas for a bit. Yeah, we've been missing that vibe. And what I will say is that the trailer is looking fantastic. Yeah, I think so.

It's like got a vibe. Everybody's like the buzz is like quite like exciting. I've always felt like a connection with you.

I have two things to say to you before you go. Three things. The first thing I'll say is that give us a chance to host you at our space.

Yeah, of course. Because... Okay, it's different. Yeah. there's an energy in that where is that space it's nearby oh so where you stay yes but it'll it'll make a difference to the conversation whenever you wish the second thing I'll say is that because you love Chinese food I've got you something this is from me there's no there's no brand sponsor involved okay it's just a gift from one human being to another it's like Chinese food oh my god wow chili sauce and all that yeah so sweet these are all like my favorite things which which suit my palate so maybe the Punjabi in me is gifting the Punjabi and you all the Asian sauces I can see wow and the third thing I'll say is your time is a blessing so thank you For being the sunflower of India, Kareena Kapoor.

No, thank you for having me on your lovely podcast. I hope you had fun. Yeah, I think it was a nice casual chat.

It's so nice. Like I said, it's always you make it comfortable. The whole country admires Kareena Kapoor.

So I'm glad that you gave us the chance to show another side of Kareena Kapoor to the world. Thank you. Thank you for having me. So as I'm recording this outro, Kareena Kapoor Khan has just left the room.

And so has all that magnetic energy. There's nothing much for me to say other than the fact that I really want to do one more conversation with her at some point. Perhaps in Hindi the next time. For some reason, I do feel a deeper connection with her.

Even though she is Kareena Kapoor Khan. When I'd gone on her show, I was just able to flow with her in terms of conversation. Call that a Punjabi connect. Call that a type A personality connect. I don't know what it is.

But if you truly get to be in her presence, you get to see who she is as a human being, a lot of the misconceptions around Kareena Kapoor Khan will fade away. There's a lot of misconceptions surrounding her. That's what I feel. And I'm sure that this podcast showed you what the real Kareena Kapoor Khan is all about.

Hopefully, she'll be back on TRS. And the next time, it's going to be in our studio. Make sure you go watch Crew.

And make sure you keep watching. The Ranveer Show.

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Kareena Kapoor Khan's Podcast Insights