welcome to the Tipping Point show I'm Jimmy Evans I've got a great show for you today in just a minute I'm going to be interviewing the bestselling Christian author of all times Max Leo on his powerful new book on the end times but first I want to remind you of our Tipping Point conference that's coming up next month on Friday night September 20th and all day Saturday on the 21st at Fellowship Church right here in the DFW metroplex just 5 minutes north of DFW airport we already have over 2,000 people Reg registered and seats are going quickly we're going to have a powerful end times teaching from Dr David Jeremiah end times teaching from Max Leo Rabbi Jonathan KH Pastor Ed young Billy cron Lee Cummings Mark Hitchcock and myself I want you to be a part of this you can attend in person or you can watch via digital stream go right now to conference.in times.com and purchase your tickets and remember if you're a paid subscriber to end times.com you get a 50% discount on your tickets or digital stream invite your friends to come and even bring a group from your church and I can't wait for the conference we're going to have a great time of worship fellowship and being equipped and encouraged by some great teaching we're also going to have a special time of prayer on Friday night that I'm going to be telling you more about in the weeks to come I hope to see you there later in the show in the subscriber only portion I'm going to be talking about a recent Supreme Court ruling stopping the Biden Harris administration's attempt to mandate trans policies in public schools and universities I'll also be talking about a shocking bill that Minnesota Governor Tim wall signed into law that paves the way for legalizing pedophilia and I'm talking about the anti-israel riots that are going on this week in Chicago and why they're targeting the Democratic party but right now I'm honored to have joining me here in the studio Max Leo he is a pastor speaker and bestselling author who in his own words writes books for people who don't read books he serves as teaching minister of Oak Hills Church in s Antonio Texas Max's books have sold more than 145 million copies in over 50 languages worldwide he is here today to talk about his new book what happens next a traveler's guide through the end of this age Max thank you for joining me today it's a great honor it's a great honor thank you Jimmy it is just so wonderful and you're a good friend and uh you have been kind of in the process of writing this book for a couple years actually and this is so well written and when I was reading this book it's historically theologically it's just so so well done but if you had to if I had to read one book I've read I've read hundreds of books on the end time and I mean this sincerely if I had to read one book I'd read this book than goodness I mean it's it just you put everything out there so well um and we're going to go through a timeline because at the beginning of your book you talk about a timeline and that's one of the reasons this book makes so much sense is because you're just taking it from the beginning to to the end really from creation yes sir and so um you wrote something I thought was kind of funny uh you in your acknowledgements you said one final word I have a reserved seat at the pwp OE t cafe in heaven pastors who preached on the end time there's not enough of us it says we will celebrate what we understood correctly chuckle at what we missed entirely mostly we will honor the teacher who stands above us all Jesus Christ I thought that was great and you know there aren't a lot of preachers preaching on the end time these days and what I really hope is I hope that people will buy this for their Pastor many pastors uh and you you made a Evolution from on millennialism into premillennialism correct and so uh and that's one of the reasons I think this book would be so helpful for a lot of people who are just kind of wondering what the right what the right theology is uh but you you know you're you're you've sold more books than any other person you know any other author except outside the Bible and there's a reason for that and I believe that God has gifted you in telling stories uh in a way that's very comforting but also in a way that's very educational and so in this book you talk about Heaven's timeline and so just what what kind of what perspective are you trying to give people from your book well first of all thank you so much welcome thank you thank you a thousand times over not just for the privilege of being here but the audience needs to know that when I first began thinking of about this I I I came up here with our mutual friend Mark fesler yes we all went out and had lunch and I was so uh kind of nervous you know because I was coming to a better what I think is a better understanding of end times and um I had created this timeline in that in those days it was more a form of a table of contents and I said uh Jimmy would you be so kind I said I handed you the sheet there at the table I said is my sequence right what am I leaving out' and you looked at it I want to say for like 2 or 3 minutes I could just see your brain going we dead silent and I'm thinking oh man oh no what did I where did I live and you were so kind you said I think you're spot on yeah something like that yeah so thank you my friend thank you for you're you're welcome it's it's a joy it's kind of like being Michael Jordan's basketball coach you know it's it's just a joy um you you put information together in such a fascinating way you tell stories through the book it it's stories history Theology and you just weave this together so well but I want to talk about the importance of this book right now we're living in a world of anxiety and fear and it's just it's just it's a pandemic it's a pandemic yeah it really is you know Jesus said that men's Hearts would fail them for fear exactly exactly that's what's happening that's what's happening so you give you said uh you're talking about anxiety here at the beginning of your book most alarming is the absence of Peace among Our Youth and you give some statistics here one in four young people show signs of anxiety one in eight have experienced serious Suicidal Thoughts one in seven deal with substance abuse uh disorder use disorder including drugs and alcohol and then you go on with me it's just this is for young people and old people I mean they need this information they need to know and and and the reason they need to know is a healthy understanding of end times yes brings Joy to the heart absolutely I've I'm loving uh learning more about what Jesus is going to do that's right uh I'm not afraid I have absolutely no anxiety and what young people have been fed since the day they were born is a lie that says all of life is between the birth and the hearse that's right that's the secular mindset that's right and that sucks the joy out of your life yes but if you can show people that oh my goodness this life is just a it's just a Pap just brief but then we've got this exciting unfolding of God's plan through Paradise through the Millennium through end times and the presence of of God in the in the in the uh new Heaven and the new Earth it's just I sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night Jimmy thinking I'm so excited about Paradise that's that's what happens yeah that's what happens when you have the right perspective I went to a debate one time Christopher Hitchens the famous atheist who's not deceased and Professor McGrath from Oxford University and Christopher Hitchens was just what he was an atheist and he said in his uh in the debate you're an animal there's nothing special about you you came from nothing you're going to nothing get over it and that fatalistic yes sir type of attitude is pervasive it is in our society just live for today because who cares about tomorrow right but that's the only thing we should be concerned about this this life is for eternity exactly and so let's start in the Garden of Eden because in your timeline you begin with creation so talk about why why do we live what are we here for and and yeah I I I wanted to start in creation I know typically we start uh books on end times maybe in Daniel or Revelation some of the more prophetic books uh but I I think you can make a case that Genesis is the most prophetic book in the Bible because look what God does he tells us here's what I desire yeah I desire that my Adam and my Eve be at peace there be no shame between them no embarrassment no guilt no resentment and I'm going to place them in the most beautiful paradise and I'm going to place them over creation right they they were assigned to take care to be superintendence right of creation and Adam did for a bit he named the animals right at least he did that and then uh most of all they had a relationship ship with God yeah that was so beautiful it was described like a walk in the cool of the evening where God would come and not like but as a walk God would come and walk with him in the Garden of Eden so I started there Jimmy because that's the big picture right that there's a lot of unfolding between now and then but that's a big picture of uh what's going to happen Adam and Eve uh did not keep their end of the agreement right but God did yeah God did he never changes his mind the Bible says that he knows the end from the beginning right so if you want to know the end start at the beginning yeah and and that's why I did I talking about this is a picture and nobody loves you more than God does that's right I'm GNA say that to the camera nobody loves you more than nobody has a greater dream for you than God does it's not all about your followers on Instagram or how many people want to go on a date with you that's that's momentary but God has such a dream for us right that he wants us to be a part of it forever I I read a book One Time by a guy named Paul billheimer oh yeah it was called Destin for the throne I love that book and isn't that a great book and he said in that book uh if God would have made us any higher he would have reached the godhead that's true and but we're going to marry Jesus yeah and so there's something special about us about us absolutely and so the people watching right now need to understand your life is Meaningful very meaningful God created you for a purpose God made us in our mother's womb he KN us together mother absolutely and so on the timeline you talk about you started in Genesis then you talk about the covenants and you make a statement in your book The covenants are like autopilot when God makes the covenants that he makes he's really uh first of all he's Redeeming the sin of Adam and Eve and so once they sinned it says that Jesus was slain from the foundation of the world so God had these covenants all lined up so we could be back in relationship with him so talk about the covenants um and by the way you as a pilot you get that don't you uh putting you're playing on autopilot and I I tried to be a pilot and I didn't quite make it but I did have 20 hours in in instruction and I learned you set that autopilot and it takes you from uh Waypoint to Waypoint or vector to Vector I can't remember the phrase and what God has set history he he's governed history and he has declared it through these covenants um I'll just run through them right quickly first there's the edenic Covenant what we just discussed with Adam and Eve will reign and Rule with Christ forever over perfect Paradise that's a covenant God God's not going to change his mind yeah and then he made the promise to Abraham that is seed in soil uh and that's absolutely essential especially as we begin discussing Israel he promised that he would bless the world through his seed and boy have we not seen that that's right the Lord Jesus Christ that's right nothing else needs to we got the Bible the church and the Savior through Israel amen amen and soil uh as Mark Hitchcock says in his book and I've heard you say as well uh Israel is the only nation to whom God has given land right he gave soil uh and and so now that's why we're watching so closely now that's right as as as the regathering has happened so then there's the promise to David that someday a descendant from David would sit on the throne in Jerusalem that's a specific promise yes and I think it can only be realized in the Millennium I don't see any other option and then lastly there's the promise made to Jeremiah about the Jews and how they will have a new heart they don't have to tell one another know the Lord for they'll all know me that's a great Covenant again I think will be realized in the in the Millennium so we these covenants can feel tedious to people they say hey get to the fun stuff you let's get over in the Rapture of the tribulation I think you got to lay the foundation here yes and make sure that these covenants are guiding history well the word covenant means to cut it's a sacrificial permanent uh promise that you make and when God makes a promise he keeps his promise amen and so all of those all of those covenants as you said they're all they're all pointing somewhere so we're going to get on the timeline and Daniel D the someone asked me when did the end times began someone said to me one time Max they said why do you people have to have an end I mean why do you why do you keep why are you so morbid why do you keep talking about the end I didn't come up with this you didn't come up with this right the end began in the Book of Daniel when the end of human history was really first discussed it was when Gabriel came to Daniel and he gave him a prophecy okay and you talk about that in your timeline so talk about Daniel yeah and and I'll I'll admit that's a tough passage to disentangle yeah you know he talks about weeks instead of years and sometimes we get entangled with with some of the prophecy I did my very best to unpack it because I think it's absolutely essential and just very quickly it's an early reference to the Antichrist yes and also it's an early reference to the seven-year tribulation yes 483 years passed and then everything stopped we're still waiting on those seven years so I think a person has to Grapple with this particular passage and it's full of hope you know the realization that the the the anointed one the the Messiah would come was perfectly fulfilled yes when Jesus rode into Jerusalem on the back of a donkey it's a great it's an astounding prophecy that authenticates scripture well you you go through history in here now this is let me tell you you need to read this book for a lot of reasons but this is this is absolutely fascinating 173,880 days and so 483 years it's a 490 year prophecy seven years are still to come yeah but from the time that there was a decree issued to rebuild Jerusalem and Nehemiah until Jesus died and you give the dates historically you give the dates yeah exactly 48 3 years or exactly 17388 days and Mark Hitchcock calls that the most remarkable Prophecy in the Bible absolutely okay so Daniel The Book of Daniel is a very respected book and it was in circulation when Jesus came so no one could have made it up absolutely and so the the Daniel prophesies that there's going to be a 483 year period Well max if that didn't happen it discredits the whole Bible absolutely but since it happened M and no one could have no could have predicted that who in the world can predict what's going to happen in 483 years it happened it happened exactly and Jesus died and Daniel's prophecy Gabriel said the Messiah will be cut off okay and he did mean death but there there is uh seven years to come on that but Daniel's prophecy it's part of your timeline here and that led us to Jesus yes sir okay and then so we're in the church age now uhhuh and you believe the next thing that's going to happen is the rapture exactly right exactly and you believe the Rapture is going to happen prior to the tribulation I do why do you that well for several reasons number one I think it just kind of makes sense yeah I can see how the Rapture would trigger this chaos that comes through the world yeah all of a sudden as as you pointed out so many times my you've written a book hoping we'll leave it on our you know bed stands so people will read it because we'll be we'll be gone it's going to be a chaos unlike anything the world has ever seen when all the graves are open when billions Millions maybe billions of Believers suddenly disappear there'll be they'll just be C now that makes sense that could trigger the the tribulation yes but I also believe it because Jesus compared it uh as to the days of lot as to the days of Noah and neither lot lot loton didn't feel any Brimstone and Noah didn't feel a raindrop and so uh we we will be rescued before then and then also believe it because after Paul's great teaching in first Thessalonians uh on the uh harpazo and the catching up he said now encourage one another with these words that's right he didn't say warn one another with these words or go go hide we need to encourage one another in the book I compare it to 9911 because uh on 911 my wife and I when we saw what was happening to the towers she went to one school I got I went to another we collected our kids we raptured our three daughters from school brought them home wow because we thought something crazy was about to happen and we wanted them to be safe in like manner I believe Jesus will do that for us he'll come for us and we'll meet him in the clouds absolutely well it's very clearly in and Mark hok and I did a program last week on John Rich interview with turker Carlson John's a great guy wonderful person we love him uh but they're talking that we're going to go through the tribulation okay which is horrific it's so it's so alarming we're not going to go through the tribulation and you make that so clear in your book here but when we're raptured you you talk about two things that happen first of all we're rewarded now this this is a wonderful thing you know 1 Corinthians 3 talks about that and then you know we also were told about the the Judgment seat of Christ you know and so talk about that well while we're in paradise and I do unpack uh the difference between paradise and and the Eternal State John Wesley Called Paradise the front porch of Heaven it's Heavenly it's not quite Heaven yet it's it's so amazing though that the Apostle Paul who got to have a peak into Paradise said it's so great I don't have the words for it it's unspeakable so that's a that's an exciting topic I it's my it's my funeral message now these days yeah but you asked me to uh talk about the rewards in heaven uh when we're in Paradise when the world's breaking out in Chaos on Earth we will each be rewarded we're not rewarded by uh for salvation we're saved by what Christ did but we're rewarded by what we did with what he gave us that's right our as stewards of our time talent and treasure and I cannot wait to watch as he puts his hand on you Jimmy and says well done here I'm going to Crown you with and there are several crowns that are mentioned and you talk about the crowns talk about the crowns and then of course all of us know there's only one head in heaven worthy of a crown so I think that's why we'll lay our crowns at the feet of Jesus but what a blessing you know there's so many people who go through a life with no affirmation yeah but when you stand before Jesus yeah he's going to affirm you he he knows everything you do he knows all the good things that and you've already forgotten all your good deeds but every time you shook a hand this did the sick pray for every time if you if you give a cup of cold water yes sir to one of these little ones you won't lose your reward amen you don't have to climb out Everest to get God's attention not a bit every little thing that's what called lay up for yourself Treasures in Heaven you know when we give of our time of our talent our treasure uh this has motivated me Jimmy I'm almost 70 and I was kind of thinking about slowing down a few years ago I was turned 65 I thought I think I'll slow down and then I started studying this and I thought no I want to give Jesus everything I can as long as I can yeah and uh and I just am excited to hear him say Well done absolutely you know and I think that a lot of people are very uh fixated on social media and and people liking them uh my parents the the home I grew up in they they became wonderful Christians when I was an adult but I grew up in a home where our value system literally was money uh social status and then family that literally was the the a lot of people that is their that's that's what they focus on is how much money do you have what's your social status so on so forth what we should be focused on is pleasing God because when you get to heaven when you're at the Judgment seat of Christ it's just you and Jesus it's not you and Jesus and all your followers on YouTube that's right and so it's going to it's going to be and there and this is a judgment of rewards right yes uhuh so if you're a Believer there's no Punishment No Punishment No hell right right it's just in in 1 Corinthians 3 talks about you know it is based on our works we're saved by grace saved by grace it is based on works and it says some people they won't have much I mean they they didn't do a lot but the thief on the cross next to Jesus Jesus said today you'll be with me in Paradise because he was a thief getting crucified I don't imagine he had too many a feeling I have a feeling but he got Heaven he did everyone everyone that goes everyone that's saved gets heaven in Jesus yeah and that's worth it all that's it that's it but when you do things Max when you do you know help people and you're loving to people and you know you you work at church you serve the church or whatever you do you give to the Lord amen there's a the you can't even we can't understand see what we have and I'm 70 what we have in this life we have for a few years MH what we have there we have forever amen for ever and ever and Jesus said in my father's house are many mansions these are not this is not a cheap motel that we're going into the most fabulous place in the universe for all of eternity and it's a few years of this life it's worth it to trade a few years here for eternity there isn't that true it's really true you know the scripture says these brief and momentary troubles are not worth comparing with the glory that far outweighs them all yeah and I know you have people listening today and they're passing through challenges and they say this isn't brief and momentary and I don't mean to downplay the challenges people have but I would say everything we go through is brief and momentary compared to Heaven that's right compared to eternal life yeah it it's it's just going to be so brief I wonder if when we're in our Eternal state if we'll look back and say did I really have trouble that seemed so far ago long ago yeah it's just it is like a vapor is what the Bible says been 70 years old I'm saying it's it goes faster than you think but then you talk about the wedding the marriage of the the we're wed to Christ the marriage supper of the Lamb so um one of the most remarkable things you know and we're told in the Bible in Ephesians 5 that we're the bride of Christ and that we're going to marry Jesus Christ we're betroth to him now and you go through all the Jewish wedding and all that in there but we are going to marry Jesus Christ and it's just like the rapture when you talk about the Rapture it's just when you talk about we're marrying Jesus Christ this happens the the Judgment seat of Christ happens at the Rapture yes Jesus in revelation 22 says I'm coming quickly my reward is with me to give to every man according to his work so the first thing that happens is the Judgment seat of Christ and then we marry Jesus yes so what that's going to be like oh my goodness it just speaks to the intimacy with which we'll have with Christ you know it it there's some uh I when my wife wife and I are are together she can finish my sentences I know what she's thinking we've been married not as long as you but a long time 43 years uh and uh it there there's there's a tenderness there a tenderness and she'll reach over in the middle of the night and I'll feel her hand on mine and it's just such a tender thought you know here's here's a here's a human being who has played she'll be mine forever and I have done the same for her so at that wedding we will it'll be there'll be I I guess we can have happy tears in heaven I don't know but if we have happy tears we'll all be weeping because we'll be literally wed to Christ uh and and that sets us up then for our assignment uh our that we will reign and Rule with Christ even over the Angels because we're married to Christ and so we will operate with authority in the Millennium uh will operate with confidence and tenderness and he'll be talking to us just like a husband to a bride and the perfect toastman uh fabulously wealthy uh the most powerful being in the universe yeah uh but Full Of Love full of love and love is love is what sets Christianity apart from every other religion amen is love and grace but and this is way I say sometimes that is you will be perfectly loved for all eternity physically I mean mentally and it's perfect love yes sir you know all of us in this life are imperfect and we live among imperfect people so we're imperfectly loved and that's our number one need in heaven will be be perfectly loved taken care of for all eternity but you talk about ruling and reigning with Christ the tribulation once we are in heaven with Jesus At The Father's house um we're there at the merry supper of the lamb but on the earth is the Wrath of the Lamb yeah sevene Wrath of the Lamb it's going to be horrific we cannot over overstate I believe it was Dwight Pentecost who said that it is impossible to overstate the horror that will take place on Earth yeah you do not want to be on planet Earth you do not want to you do not want to you most likely would not survive it right if you're a Believer you'll probably become a martyr right uh there'll be famines there'll be pestilence a fourth of the world will die yeah it's unlike anything that we can even imagine yeah and so the the tribulation needs to be taken very seriously in the book I mentioned uh you people might wonder why why talk about the tribulation uh because it's it's something so far in the future and I answer I said because you might be there you might be there you need to know yeah that you missed an opportunity but even in the tribulation it's not going to be easy but you'll have the opportunity to say yes and this is all based on relationship with Jesus Max I mean the who goes in the Rapture it's this is just all based on relationship with Jesus if you've invited Christ into your heart amen I mean it's by Grace I mean it just it's a simple prayer yeah uh it's a simple but a lot of people even if they know know about this they still don't yeah for whatever reason you don't have to be perfect to go on the Rapture by any means right but when you get into the tribulation salvation at that point becomes so much more costly related to what you're going to have to endure and and you do a great job in your book but at the end of the tribulation we return with Jesus amen amen amen for a thousand years We R and Reign but there's this is revelation 19 Zechariah 14 the Jesus the Rapture is a private event between Jesus and the church the coming is a very public event that the Bible talks about so when when we come back what happens well in the Rapture uh Jesus comes for his church when he returns he returns with his church right that's often stated and well it should be because that's the difference we will return with Christ Christ will be on a stallion uh we'll be returning with him and uh he he he when he first came he was meek and Mild when he returns he's going to be angry and R he is he's going to he's going to do away with all those who have done so much damage to his Planet but most of all to his people that's right and he's going to do it I don't have to we'll watch it yeah but uh he's he's just with the breath of his uh mouth he's going to destroy all those who have done so much evil on the earth Satan's Bound for a thousand years yes sir and during that thousand years now you were all Millennial and you talked about that in your book uhhuh and now you're premillennial but six times in Revelation 20 we're told that the Millennium is a thousand years yeah and in spite of that there are still some that all Millennial that that they allegorize that but the it's a thousand years and during that thousand years are we resting are we playing golf I think that's happen but what are we doing during that thousand years will we Reign and Rule with Christ we'll all be given assignments is incredible it's astounding it's astounding and I think part of our reward will be what our assignment is yeah in the in the Millennium oh I absolutely agree with that yeah yeah it's going to be amazing you you and I have talked about how uh important it is to believe in this thousand literal thousand year reign of Christ and and I did not uh grow up in a church that taught it I never had a seminary Professor that taught it never had a pastor who taught it yeah but a few years ago I began studying it more deeply and more personally reading your book uh reading Mark hitch's book reading dozens of books and I came to realize that's what Revelation 20 says it says it's six times yeah there's two resurrections one before and one at the end so there has to be Thousand Years the early church fathers Embrace this uh with only maybe one or two exception the early church fathers for two or 300 years all believed in the millenni you have a chapter on that in the book and you have an acronym power power but of why you believe that it's so well done and uh and I'm just saying the the Millennium is a very more is said in the Old Testament related to the Millennium any end time absolutely and so this is going to be a thousand years the Jesus told taught a parable of the meas and about the master who gave his servants meas and he said because you were faithful with little I'm going to make you ruler over five cities and I think it's just going to be so fascinating Max during the Millennium and I don't know where I'm going to be governing you know under Jesus or whatever but I think it's just there there won't be a wicked person in government amen amen Jesus will be king for a thousand year no more elections and the Saints and and we're in our uh Immortal bodies but they're physical okay when Jesus was resurrected he's the first fruits yes sir okay and so Jesus said touch me I'm not a ghost and so a lot of people think when you go to heaven where're there ghost floating around whatever we have physical bodies but they're Supernatural and Supernatural and so Jesus appeared to his disciples sat down and ate with them then disappeared and so and and he went to heaven from the Mount of Olives without a SPAC suit or a spaceship yes sir and so we'll have that same body so it's we're going to have perfect body we won't have a sin nature any longer and we're going to rule and Reign for a thousand years you know that's so exciting it's so exciting the least will be great you know I think that there will be uh rulers in the Millennium who were viewed upon with such disdain here on Earth yeah I just real quick when I was in I don't tell this story I should have it's a good one when I lived in South America I lived in Brazil for five years and our office building had a obviously an elevator that took us up 10 floors and down and in those St there was a guy who worked as the elevator operator very humble could not be more humble just a quiet little fella and I would always tease him in you know in Portuguese I say are we going up more or down more today and he'd laugh every time but you know what Jimmy he would sing hyms all day long wow they're crammed in that little crowded elevator you could hear him singing Amazing Grace or you can hear him singing the Brazilian version of Blessed assurance and sometimes I think the least will be great he he was probably the least of the downtown Rio de Janeiro population but he loved Jesus and he'll be great and I cannot wait to see what his assignment will be you think about it new Mill there will be people that Liv very humble lives here yes sir and they will be fabulously wealthy there because youus to lay up your Treasures in Heaven absolutely and they get there and everybody in heaven is is well off I mean you're in good shape but there will be distinctions and I do believe agree with you I believe that As We Rule and reign with Jesus I think that what the authority that we're given we all have the authority of Christ but geographically uh I think that it does relate to how we lived our lives on this Earth yeah and so in other words it's worth it to serve Jesus amen amen in any capacity so at the end of the Millennium um what happens well just as in the Garden of Eden a perfect place uh Adam and Eve rebelled in spite of the Perfection right so the same will happen Satan will be released for a time right and he will find a a large abundance of people this isn't us this is us these are The Mortals these are The Mortals right these are those who were born in the uh Thousand-Year Reign and believe it or not it just shows what our sin nature can be right believe it or not they'll rebel against the King of Kings yeah and he will destroy them and he will once and for all destroy the Devil and I'm boy I'm so happy to see him G that's that's a happy ending of the story is and then the heavens Earth or the great white Throne judgment the great white Throne judgment is the most somber event in human history right that's where the books will be opened and the book will be opened yeah the book is The Book of Life uh your name's written in it my name's written in it every week when I preach I say make sure your name is written in the book of life it's the only place where it matters that your name is written yeah but that book will be opened and there will be millions billions of people who never said yes to Jesus and their names will not be found in the book yeah and so they'll be judged by the second book and that's their deeds I do not want to be judged by my Deeds I want to be judged by Jesus Christ who exchanged his place with mine and I'm saved and I'm secure but if you never say yes to Christ then Christ says okay all your life you said Lead Me Alone yeah and now I'm going to do just that yeah and they'll be separated from Christ for eternity yeah the great white Throne judgment is the most somber scripture in P in in the Bible I believe and the everyone there Goes to Hell unfortunately yeah and then the heavens and the Earth are destroyed yeah new heavens and earth are created we go to the New Jerusalem it's Revelation 21-22 it's U and so you have a great way throwing judge and then eternal life or death we have eternal life with Jesus but Max Judas does such a masterful job in this book and this is what happens next a traveler's Guide to the end of the age uh to the end of this age and it's just it's historically theologically but it's also full of Stories full of so much information and so anything else you want to say about this I'm just so excited about it I believe that if people can get a vision for God's vision for them it'll change the church change the world yeah you know it's a wonderful thing to encourage people just to you know lead a good life here but but you can't really lead a good life here until you know the great life that awaits us there that's right and that that's the whole purpose of this would you mind just looking in the camera there and just leading up leading people into a prayer to receive Christ Jesus has done all the hard work he's done the heavy lifting he took every sin and he paid the price for sin when he died on the cross you see God is creating a perfect Paradise for perfect people and apart from Christ I'm not perfect but in Christ we become perfect he gives us his Perfection so I'm going to lead us in a Prayer of Salvation and if you've already said a prayer like this say it with me again out loud just affirm and if you've never said that prayer like this today is your day to say yes to Christ and see your name written in the Book of Life Lord Jesus I'm a sinner please forgive me for my sins I call upon you as my savior I receive the gift of Salvation I commit myself to you and you have already committed yourself to me and I cannot wait to be with you forever in heaven in Jesus name amen amen thank you max if you prayed that prayer Jesus came into your heart that's all it takes it's it's by his grace that you're saved and so I just encourage you go to church uh find a Bible believing Church go to church tell somebody what you just did and get baptized be a part of the church be accountable uh and also be baptized and let them lead you into the next steps but thank you for being a part of the show today and I do encourage you to get what happens next to Travelers guide through the end of this age wherever books are sold Amazon yes anywhere they're sold Max is there any a website where people can find that more about you yeah max.com Max go there everything is right there on that one place thank you thank you my friend you bet enjoyed it thank you for joining us today for the Tipping Point show really appreciate you being with us if you're a subscriber thank you for being a subscriber here to the Tipping Point show if you're not a subscriber go to end times.com $7 a month we would love to have you be a subscriber you get 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