Experience with Sinder and Red

Introduction

• The speaker shares their negative experience with Sinder and Red, detailing manipulation, use, and involvement in drama.
• Intention to expose Sinder's detrimental actions to protect other artists and friends.
• Struggled with distinguishing personal feelings of burnout from actual manipulation.

Language and Documentation

• Language barrier led to consultation with native English speakers for clarity.
• Red, Sinder’s manager, and Sinder often act as a team—'they' refers to both.

Slandering Other Creators

• Proof through screenshots of Sinder and Red spreading rumors about other creators.
• Emphasis on manipulating the speaker to believe it was in their best interest.
• Specific mention of Bao being overworked due to excessive editing demands.

Manipulation Tactics

• Red asked the speaker to cancel a project with Bao, manipulating feelings of guilt.
• Attempts to control who the speaker could work with by slandering others.

Exclusivity and Blacklisting

• Mention of desired exclusivity contract without pay.
• Sinder sought to dominate the speaker’s projects, preventing work with blacklisted creators.
• Idea presented that working with others devalues the speaker's art.
• Speaker recognized the harm of such a deal on workload and mental health.

Toxic Competition

• Sinder and Red attempted to isolate the speaker from other clients.
• Described as 'looking out' for the speaker, but actions suggested otherwise.
• Continuous attempts to discredit other creators like Shylily.

Guilt Tripping and Drama

• Speaker pushed back against being involved in drama.
• Sinder and Red responded with more drama and attempts at guilt-tripping.
• Manipulated gratitude for income despite lost opportunities.

Concerns Over Work and Artistry

• Manipulation to make the speaker feel their work was 'less special' with more clients.
• Red confirmed to be speaking on Sinder's behalf.
• Repeated stress on business over ethics or personal well-being.

Damage Control

• Efforts to keep negative actions secret to protect Sinder’s reputation.
• Accusations that other vtubers cause competition rather than Sinder’s own actions.

Conclusion

• Irony highlighted in Sinder's expectation of recognition while sabotaging others.
• A call for closure and understanding for those hurt by these actions.