[Music] killer beats in the hood [Music] [Music] sh [Music] [Music] what it good hope this be it's your boy n o r e what up it's djn and this military crazy world drink champ Yapp hour make [Applause] some and today I'm excited to introduce a hip hop King when it comes to all of this the man started out as a DJ a lot of people don't understand that he was DJ vad the butcher at one point he was uh heavy on the mixtapes he's a media Mogul he has changed the way hip-hop has been looked at he single-handedly solved Tupac's murder he did what the Las Vegas PD couldn't do and the LA PD couldn't do he BR it to the Forefront he made hip-hop interviews change to this day there's people who still ask me did you go through the door because I did it on his interview you went through the door on his interview no I talked about it talked about it about he's listen to me when I tell you if you need to get hot you need to be on the streets you stand in front of his cameras he's going to have he's going to ask you the questions that you need to be asked and he's going to get you to the Forefront of where you need to be in case you don't know who the [ __ ] we talking about hip hop mogul one only black TV TV now now for people who just tuning in DJ Vlad is one thing but then Vlad TV is a separate entity correct right would you describe it like that yeah absolutely okay yeah so tell us I mean Vlad TV is something I started in 2008 uhhuh uh I couldn't think of a better name so I just went with my name and put a TV on the end of it and uh yeah man 16 years later uh still doing it daily now when you say we started Vlad TV at that point was that where the blogs kind of like blogging era yes early blog era like the now right ER that kind of like replaced the mixtape culture on Smash was around world star was definitely around remodeled the news site kind of after World Star okay you know what I'm saying was there ever any problem with world star no I mean me and kind of have had a weird relationship I guess you know before before Vlad TV when I was a DJ he actually booked me for shows he even went with me to um I think Bahrain you know what I'm saying so we were real cool but then when I started Vlad TV the website I think he saw it as a little bit of competition so things were a little tense between us but then you know I went out to Arizona spent the night at his house you know his guest room W you know what I'm saying uh you know met his family everything else like that and then we know we became kind of cool afterwards then you know he he passed away unfortunately yeah um very very humble guy very humble guy or or uh did you not see that side of him Q um I saw both sides we rolling around in Aston Martin had his sunglasses on Big Chain on even at a restaurant at night so you know I mean he had his humble but he also had his bragado side you know a little both okay so let's let's let's take it back from the beginning yeah Bay Area yeah I grew up in the Bay Area I was born in the Ukraine what used to be the USSR at the time so the Soviet Union yeah the Soviet Union so a lot of times I'll say I'm Russian because at the time it was Russia now it's that's why the war is happening now cuz they Russia wants it back right exactly but yeah I was about four years old when I moved originally moved to Massachusetts Springfield Massachusetts you know we lived in the projects you know for immigrant no I'm just playing I'm just playing just I yeah I know know um and then you know by around third grade my family moved to the Bay Area and that's where I grew up from Boston that's crazy well Springfield okay Springfield from one side all the way to the other side oh that's that's extreme to extreme yeah but I was a little kid oh so you didn't you didn't get third grade is when I got to the Bay Area what was I 9 years old something like that and what artist is out from from the on Bay Area at this time what what what what artist is out it's too short uh well I mean at the time yeah but there was no Bay Area hip-hop at that time that I knew about it was New York hip-hop it was I was buying grandm flash in the Furious 5 I was buying Ren dmc's first album uh you know two sh probably was around but that was Oakland I was living in in Sano which is kind of the other side of the bay okay you know what I'm saying so so hip-hop there really were no hip-hop artists I mean in la there were some like I was buying Egyptian lover records in Uncle Jam's Army you know I mean back then hip-hop wasn't on the radio so you would just go to Warehouse records and you go to the little hip-hop section you just buy whatever's available you list listen to it you come home and and hope it was cool right that was the hero for sure God damn it so when did you fall in love with hip-hop I mean at that point um when break dancing became a national phenomenon hold on was Vlad TV a break dancer Vlad was a break dancer Vlad was a break dancer I can't see it I can't see was definitely I was definitely a break that's how that's how I got into hip-hop culture I was I was a breaker you know but but the thing is though you got to understand like thank you um you got to understand the time frame MH this was the mid 80s and the US and Russia had a cold war going on why a lot worse than now because it was potentially a nuclear war yeah you felt like it was going to there were shows like the day after that people thought that there might be a nuclear war but you don't think they thinking that now Putin is a little loose not like it was back then that cold war was Heavy the whole boving nuclear nuclear missiles to to uh Cuba and people thought that you know nuclear weapons might start flying I'm going to tell you when I got unscared of Putin when I seen him on a the horse with the shirt off I was like he ain't that scary no more think that's what made you not be no it seemed like you should be even more scared he he was shaving his chest he was out in the winner like that he shaved his chest here he can't be that tough but you got to understand like you just I'm kind of trying to set the the stage for you at the time I'm a Russian kid named Vlad with an accent did you have an accent you didn't have an accent cuz I was so young when I came out I was four my parents did but I didn't I'm Vlad in San Mato the only Russian kid in the school wow while with no other Russian community at the time San Francisco had one but when my parents settled down we didn't and there was just a lot of hatred towards me oh yeah because of the cold war going on the Cold War the US like Americans hated Russia and I was the only Outlet the only person from r that people knew so it was just like a lot of like people you know the kids just a lot of fights a lot of you know you know if something would happen like if if the teacher would say something about Russia the whole class would turn around and stare at me godamn it you know what I mean which as a third grader you know you don't really know how to deal with that so the only other kids I could really relate to were the the black kids the Spanish kids the Filipino kids thank you um and so I'm not a minority right but at the time I was one of the the people that would kind of you know we all related to each other a certain thing and I was drawn to hip hop along with the other black kids and the Spanish kids in my school and I felt in love you know the New York City Breakers were starting to be shown on TV um and I just started falling in love with break dancing and Hip-Hop and and graffiti and you know everything else like that and I just would go home watch y TV raps and practice break dance moves in my living room and that's kind of the start of of my hip-hop career I didn't thought I didn't think that it would get me year at one point I just thought it was just a hobby and something I loved mhm because at that time Hip Hop was a fat you didn't know it was you didn't know you didn't know and people were saying like oh it won't be around in 3 years right but as a kid you don't care about that you don't care you're just doing that's what was every kid was doing yeah yeah I truly believe I truly believe that yeah I I agree with you um Jamie I'll take a drink when you get a chance um yeah I truly believe that um I truly believe listen all of us if we didn't get money doing what we love doing right now we'll be doing a version of it I don't think it'll be our main job but we'll be doing a version of it because like I I I can't see life without you going without being a DJ like I I see how much you and and so how did you get into mixtapes all right so so the mixtapes it was um let me think so I went to school at UC Berkeley mhm right which is you know right next to and for the first time I was seeing actual real rappers walking around the street like the hieroglyphics oh wow A+ and opo would just be on Telegraph a and other underground rappers were sitting there having ciphers on the corner and freestyling and beatboxing and I'm like oh [ __ ] like here's real hip-hop in front of me because where I was growing up you know in high school yeah a couple kids tried to rap but no one was really taking it seriously but here I am and yo these these kids are signed to major labels and we're listening to their CDs so I started uh producing you know I played a little bit of band in high school I played saxophone and stuff like that so you know I had a little bit of musical kind of training so I started making beats MH I started producing I had like um NPC 60 I was making beats making little local demos you know my man Jimmy XL who I just connected with recently me and him put a demo together and I kept making beats I kept making beats and um one day I had a house party and the DJ who who djed there end up leaving his equipment overnight he was going to pick it up the next morning so I jumped on the turntables and I just like made a mixtape that first night it just naturally came wow it was just you know cuz i' had been practicing you know structuring beats so it it it kind of came natural and I just recorded it live and I'm like wow I just made a mixtape right you know what I'm saying right and so I started dejing and kind of you know I started doing house party and everything else like that and I was like yo like I I love this feeling I love it and and I realized that if I really wanted to take it seriously I'd have to move to New York where where the mixtape epicenter was okay going too fast hold calm you down sorry that was my next question so look because this is what me and you always debate about at this time New York was the Epic Center right for the longest of of course but you being close to the Bay did you not think let me try La first cuz you didn't have the mixtape scene okay they had dope DJs now who's ruling the mixtape scene DJ Clue it's probably before clue clue K slay those were Tony touch SNS Tony touch yeah you know um those type of dudes were were like the known Green Lantern okay these were like the known you know dirty hairy guys you know cuz I was doing Blends cuz I was like I started cuz cuz honestly yeah your style was more leaning towards dirty hair style cuz I I was I started putting together I started you know using the production [ __ ] I was you know what I mean like the production [ __ ] I was combining with the mixtape [ __ ] and I was actually the first DJ to release a mixtape on the internet what yeah the rap phenomenon series way before it was actually a Cypress Hill mixtape called Soul assassination wait wa wait ask be real about this he knows about this you're knocking two birds out with one stone you saying you're the first DJ to put up mixtape online yeah and then you're also saying it was for be world and Cypress Hill so you're also I was a big Cypress Hill fan a big Soul assassin oh so you wasn't down with them you just dedicated it to them oh okay okay no no no I I didn't meet them until way later but no I I was such a fan of Cypress Hill right and you know Funk dubus House of Pain you know that whole that whole movement yeah the whole movement and I put together a mix of just my favorite Cypress Hill songs and Blended one into the other just lens everything else like that and since I didn't have an outlet to put out mixtapes I uploaded the whole thing as MP3 files and then before I knew what platform did you upload do you remember Napster okay damn and and my own website djvlad I made my own you know website DJ vlad.com and like yo download my mixtape you know one long 60 Minute file you know what I'm saying and before I knew it people in like Sweden and Czech Republic and Australia were hitting me I'm like yo we bumped this thing in our youth center all the time and I'm like I think I'm I'm on to something here like you know for the first time like yo my shit's actually kind of being recognized outside of my bedroom what what year is that like early 2000 2001 yeah I mean you could look let me let me ask you so how hard was it you said you didn't think of Los Angeles yeah but how hard was it to transition from that West Coast to New York and then to get your your music into New York stores shout out to because because these kids nowadays they one button and that [ __ ] is everywhere they don't know that you have to physically bring it so I would like you to explain that I mean shout out to my man justo just help out the whole got award I'm sure youa got I got a couple Awards yeah so so uh justo of justo mixtape Awards uhhuh I reach out to him and I'm like yo I do mixtapes he okay let me check it out okay you know I like your stuff whatever whatever and I'm like I'm thinking about moving out to to New York he's like okay when you come out hit me up right so when I got out there I hit him up and he took me Canal Street to make a queen Brooklyn that's big I can smell I can smell everywh he's talking about you know meet up with these Africans Consignments go to Canal Street that's cuz I did that cold call I did it on my own not I'm not having any guidance no me and my crew we just went out there and nobody barely wanted to talk to us so to have someone like that take you around and yeah I was lucky man he was a good dude he he he was a good dude man and and from there it was like all like I got to start from the very bottom I'm I'm essentially homeless at this point cuz I was broke sleeping on my man's couch DJing at the China club and then that China Club yeah and then that ended and then you know I'm I'm having a DJ strip clubs and then at the strip club scores no I wish I wish it was just a dead ass strip club that was dying oh on Coney Island Boulevard and um dirty hary came in wow and uh me and him chopped it up and that's when we formulated the idea of doing the first Biggie rap phenomenon mixtape wow from from that strip club yeah from you know and then that mixtape got on MTV right and was crazy and it was like oh okay now I'm actually doing something that hip-hop is reacting to for the first time ever cuz I had a blend tapes and yeah I mean people bought them and liked them whatever but that was the first one that actually people paid attention to and then that was so successful me and Harry were like yo we should do a part two but do a Tupac one you know we should do it with who's another huge DJ oh Eminem's DJ Green Lantern so at uh I think at a dip set listening event we just kind of cornered him we're like yo like why don't you work on this you know CU he was the blend you know one of the blend Kings of that era and I'm like yo why don't you work on it with us and we'll do a Tupac mixtap but instead of just doing Blends we'll get features from other artists like busts bounty killer why CL Felicia Keys yeah that was a gameer exhibit um on and on and on we just had these acappellas with Beats and guest features and and yeah that and that project won mixtape of the Year wow just those mix yeah yeah that was like wow like out of all these guys that are super super talented they they pick this tape as as the mixtape of the year so it was just for me it was it was a highlight how did you approach artist to do the features for that we all had our relationships man I mean cuz cuz uh Green Lantern was Eminem ZJ and he was working on his album at the time D this was before you know he called jiss and J to put him on speaker phone he lost his obvious so at that time everyone wanted to work with him cuz he had a Shady Records I don't think GRE Latin gets on the phone since yeah right yeah you can't you can't get green on the phone person yeah so everyone was was flocking with him and then of course uh dirty hary um he was Alicia Keys's DJ I know yeah at the time I mean he he he put her on one of his early joints they formed a relationship and DN I didn't know that I'm I'm hustling I'm I'm networking you know I I get introduced to Bun B I get on the phone with him and he boom gives me a verse super quick and i' imagine it would have been sorry to but I imagine it been hard for them to Envision what you guys were actually doing not exactly because a lot of them were fans of the big mixtape oh okay so you already had that so the second one was the one that had the features first yeah the first one didn't have any features it yeah the second one had the real featur almost like a mini album right but um yeah no we people were fans the first one so they were willing to jump on the second one makes sense and uh yeah man it was it was great at the time um but I also realized that this is cool but it's not exactly a career cuz it's bootleg right right only go so far with it you know you can't legally license said you can't put it in a real store it was just mama and pop stores the mama and pop stores were going away you know what's crazy when you guys were putting mixtapes in the stores I thought it was official it was like I didn't know there was nothing wrong with I was getting cease and assist letters from every label that was actually feeding me leak yeah but you didn't have you didn't have a mpace back then where you were saying that and blowing that up so I'm thinking this is legal yeah when drama actually got raided I was like what for that was when I stopped doing mixtapes okay all right cool when I was watching that was like the first weo in hip-hop when I was DJ Drama [ __ ] up DJ Drama what I was seeing his BMW get put on the tow truck yeah W and his bank accounts received and the warehouse was raided I said I am done right I am done this is this is real enough for me you know cuz I was already having to put [ __ ] in other people's names worried that there might be a fed raate and stuff like that and I cuz real money was being made with these mixtapes no I mean for the for for young kids yeah not for an adult not for an adult for young that I I don't know if I'm blowing it up but and if I is the one person that I saw getting real money off of the mixtape [ __ ] was DJ Clue was I remember clue used to come pick me up and the MPV and just like that in two weeks the MPV turned into a purple BMW and then like just the cars just kept going and I I saw it I never um felt like I he owed me for me being like you know participating you know I think the mixtapes helped us a lot yeah it was a part of the culture right so um I'm bouncing around a little bit right right but I was at a bar one night right dude is drunk he's talking to me he knows he knows me from somewhere he doesn't know where he knows me from right two other people come up take a picture maybe three people come they take a picture of me guys just sitting in there he's like oh [ __ ] I know I know you from now and then he gives me a five and he says I'm a Navy SEAL off top I don't who the [ __ ] how the [ __ ] can you prove you're a Navy sale or not right this guy is telling me all type of dramatic crazy [ __ ] one I'm thinking it can be true then on the other side I'm like this got to be like this guy throwing me off I just met him in a bar but then I thought about it if you are a Navy se you went through all of this [ __ ] now you're retired sometimes you want to talk about these War stories that you've been through that you survived right that you survived yeah because not all veterans say anything I'm going to make it make sense now the face that that guy had is the only face I've ever seen until I seen Kei D am I making sense yeah because I knew where you were going with this yeah cuz to a certain extent if you do something that's so heroic like I you you seen this something on Netflix where this guy kidnapped this girl and then they give somebody else the credit for it and the guy is so pissed he's like no it was me and I kind of trying to trying to make it all make sense I kind of felt like that's what happened with kbd is like he kind of wanted to tell his story even he wrote a book and no one even paid attention to it but on your platform yeah which is huge you don't force people on your platform there's clearly cameras there I can attest to that yeah there's clearly cameras here like there's cameras here you're wearing a wire actually you're wearing a wire you put it down your own shirt okay so let's so so let's clarify for people for that don't know the story right you're into content so are you reaching out to qbd did you read read this book how did this how dides this work well before the kefd interview Greg ktie who was the LAPD officer yep got you know basically gave Kefi d a profer agreement a what a profer okay so Kefi D and that's the one who who who retired who said he quit yeah so so so Kefi d word was already out there that he was in the car they killed Tupac right yeah I even knew that so so Greg kading who was on I believe the biggie task force but was kind of researching the whole the whole Biggie Tupac you know whether there's some connection or not he was following he started investigating Kefi D and he found that that Kei had a whole PCP operation going mhm and considering the priors and the amount of PCP Kefi would have probably done 25 years to life right so what they did was they went to kefi's house and they said look we know about your operation we have all our ducks in a row but come in to talk with us and we'll offer you some sort of deal and this is after the Tupac murder correct this is yeah years after the two CL murder continue so Kei met up with them and they secretly recorded him and they basically said listen a profer agreement is it's also called Queen for a Day it means that you tell me you tell me about all these crimes I'm asking you about and if you answer me truthfully you don't lie and I I know some of the answers already everything you say we can't turn around and use it against you in that moment in that moment on that day right and in exchange all these other charges you're facing will throw him out the window right so in exchange for him telling the whole story about the Tupac murder they threw out his PCP case Okay so essentially they had all this information and they try to use him as an informant they try to send him to New York to to set up Eric prior to your this is way prior right okay continue all this happened they they you know they weren't able to to implicate other people in it whatever else but since they had the property and ke he did what he was supposed to do they dropped the PCP case and it was over right ultimately the biggie uh investigation the lawsuit that uh Veta filed end up getting dropped um you know Las Vegas didn't pick up the evidence from Greg cading to try to implicate Kei in the murder at that time everything got dropped everything got dis dismantled uh Greg kading retired and after he retired he had some of that audio footage and he told ke I'm going to put this out and I'm going to write a book and put out a documentary whatever else so the audio of Kei confessing to his role in the Tupac murder and implicating his nephew Orlando Anderson got released okay and it was floating around I knew someone who knew Kefi D okay they connected me with them and he had just written that book okay so I had a copy of the book and I was talking to the writer cuz you got two interviews with him right yeah two but I talking about the first one first one so essentially I got a copy of the book as it was being released he agreed to do the interview you know I paid him a little bit of money for it and the interview essentially follows the book from beginning to end but also since I know the whole story you read the book I read the book absolutely I read the book and I also had interviews from other people that were sort of in the know and related you know the Outlaws you know Ed I mean who was the car behind Tupac Chris Carol who was the first responder and of course Greg kading and then you know the Compton PD cops that were also investigating it and I'm so I basically piec together the whole story and and he basically said the whole thing he basically reiterated what he said in the book but all right but you're not thinking that of it you're thinking like all right this is the book yeah you do the first interview yeah it it's viral everyone is like wow it's the first time we kind of see like a murderer kind of not admit but a murderer on camera like kind of like and then this this is a this is a national excuse me a worldwide murder no one thinks nothing of it the first interview yeah well people thought a lot of it I mean I me you know what I mean you know what I mean what I meant was but nothing happens to like yeah yeah like there's no yeah authorities alerted there's no nothing everyone goes under the cover so how do how does the second interview come about well between that first interview and the second interview he does a bunch of other interviews right he does like cam Capone news and he does this other platform he does this platform so he's basically telling the story over and over again and putting in more details he's like making it more graphic he was saying Tupac was break dancing when he got shot trying to get in the back in you know in the back uh seat and it it was it got more graphic you know it got a little more morbid you know what I mean so he's doing he did probably even one time part me remember what you saying uh he said that Mike Tyson saids something he was like yeah man tell Mike Tyson well yeah well I brought that up in the Mike Tyson interview you know what I'm saying Mike Tyson was like yeah that story sounds right and I he's I wish I had 5 minutes with with this guy you know in the room and he was like yeah you know Mike T need to be careful I'm I'm a Gangster like he's boxer you know what I mean but you know kei's living his life he's living in Vegas which is where the murder occurred right and you know which is weird yeah that's that's that's a was he living in the Vegas I don't know if you noticed or not was he living in the Vegas prior to that uh I believe he was living in Vegas for a while I mean at the time the murder occurred he was from LA from Compton okay I remember him saying they drove back together with with the murder the Southside [ __ ] so they they went back to Compton but yeah I don't know how long he's been living in Vegas but yeah he''s been living in Vegas for a while okay so all right boom so the second interview comes up yeah how do you approach this different from the first interview I mean that's always challenging did you know he was going to give you more I mean there really wasn't that much more it was kind of a fill-in the blanks on certain stories it was kind of a reaction to this person saying things about I mean really the first interview was the real you know storyline right the second one just had few pieces here and there not not really a lot you know of course people reacted to it because it's me and KY D but really it's that first interview that told the story from essentially when he was born to his relationship with Suge him being a Southside [ __ ] his drug dealing days his relationship with his nephew Orlando what you know the his interactions with puffy and Biggie what led up to them going in Vegas what happened after Orlando got jumped right to the actual his role in the car and the shooting and then going back you know and then the the blood bath that happened in Compton because of the the murder and all that so it kind of told the whole story from beginning to end in a in a visual format was you shocked when you heard Suge say I don't want him to go to jail no but that's Suge Su doesn't cooperate that hard yeah so that's Su is Su no but he did Sue Kanye he did yeah he he did well he also sued aon's bodyguard that's true and he was going to press charges but I think shook picks and picks and chooses yeah you know I mean I don't you know y he he didn't cooperate with the police you know and and like for example like the Greg cads of the world feel that cuz Sugar's really like the only witness right that actually saw you know cu cu Kei said that him and Suge locked eyes theyve known each other since school football played football together they locked eyes M so sh could have been like here's who did it right everyone's still alive in the car at the time he could have cooperated everyone would have went to prison but he didn't he did so and he still is not right so it is what it is you had a relationship with Suge never met him never met him been in the same room with him but the thing with Suge is that everyone I know that's dealt with Suge has always had a negative story it's always ended badly so I'm like why why would I bother you I'm going to be honest with you um I'm 50/50 there's a lot of people who swear by him yeah I've heard a lot of positive like I kid you not and don't know reputable real people that say I don't know a single human being that said that they have dealt with SH and it's worked out at the end Scott Storch okay Cat Williams daru TK kirkin no him him and TK got into it okay okay T got into it okay but the other ones I don't know okay so yeah you're right I swear to God like I I and on my every time I seen him he's been a gentleman I mean maybe I'm lucky maybe I'm being overly cautious right but you know sometimes it pays to be overly cautious is this somebody that you was I know I'm bouncing around but is this somebody that you wanted to meet in this industry and you met him he was like [ __ ] them I'm sure there's a lot of people yeah I got a lot too not not so much of a [ __ ] them you know you don't Vibe with certain people you know what I mean for whatever reason the interview doesn't go according you know when I interview Lil Wayne We didn't wasn't a good interview okay this was early on this was during my DVD days um it was just like he just wasn't feeling me no matter what I asked him I got a one-word answer I walked away feeling like you know you you know what it's like when you when you don't get the interview you were hoping to get over someone you admire you just walk away feeling kind of right a little off right so you know yeah me and Wayne didn't didn't Vibe and that's life it's not like [ __ ] him I don't I don't feel that way it's just he wasn't feeling me and it is what it is so let me ask you what's the method of your interviews right see um one thing I'm I want to give I want to give this the method somewhat to our interviews is Leo used to when I used to go see Leo K he wouldn't take a meeting nowhere else unless you came to him okay he wanted to be the man when you walked in the room so the thing about it is one thing that we learned early on I believe is was our French Montana TI and the studio Rocky session we went to their studio and we realized we couldn't tell people to shut up we couldn't tell people like move this way get out the camera cuz we're actually in someone else's studio right we had no control you understand the environment yeah so one of the AR trick is like yo you know what no matter what they have to come to us now like they got to come to us be in our environment whether it's it's the comfortability they have with us or the uncomfortability what is one of the things that you have to do if it's a Vlad interview I have to prepare okay I I have to spend a long time researching like if I get a last minute call M I mean of course you know you're going to make exceptions right you know if Eminem calls me right now and said I want to meet right now and this is your only opportunity of course I'm going to right do whatever to to make that happen but how about R Kelly I've interviewed R Kelly over the phone in jail okay but right now R Kelly got free you going you you going to Chicago to see him yeah I'll go to Chicago go to [Applause] CH go okay I I got another drink's go um but but in general it's it's the research uhhuh you know and a lot of times you know Vlad is the feds it's because there's so much research that goes into what we do like for example there's that famous little baby interview where he was like how you know that right and it's like well I've watched all your other interviews so and there's bits and pieces I pick out of it you know how it is you've done so many interviews you don't remember everything you said right of course and then someone brings something up and you're like did I say that how do you know that right and but it's the research right and I felt like when I got into hip-hop media I I just felt that the the all the interviewers at the time I'm not talking about right now I'm just talking about at the time like they all sucked right it was all like promo it was like a PR run it was like hey let me tellone how great you are here's a new album bye and you walk away with nothing but my thing was like yo I'm going to research and I'm going to you know like when people talk in the barber shop I'm asking those type of questions the questions people really want to ask the uncomfortable questions that the hard questions so I research I research I research I watch every other interview they've done if they have a book I'll read the book if we know some people in common I'll call those people up and I'll have conversations with them like you know and then plus you know like I'm 50 now I've been around since hip-hop was born you know what I mean so I have yeah you know so it's kind of like I know as being like a lifetime hip-hop fan I know everything that happened in hip-hop to a certain you know every Source magazine every double XL magazine I I I read everyone cover to cover so I know a lot of stuff just in my memory banks I could pull out so so so that's you know the answer to your question is research I have to have a lot of research and that's what I think makes my interviews a little different than other people's and one thing about you like I I would say 75% of your guests if they make an appearance and it's a success you have them back on right you have them as repeated guest it's the core of our business man right it's the core and you know people like to you know oh this person again but you know when it comes to interviews and you know we don't have deals with other companies we don't have sponsorship deals we don't have TV deals where it's like we get some huge check and just push it and whatever happens not like our stuff is based on the views right you know you know how people say oh I'm going to clip up you know I'm going to do a clip on this interview we were doing Clips in 2008 wow you know when the idea in the beginning was like if I have an hour and a half interview I'm going to five 10 minute Clips every day every day and you know someone else is going to do it I might as well do it you know a lot of really incredible parts of an interview gets buried in an hour and a half right and no one will ever see it my thing was like every important part we're gonna put it out so so so that that's the whole premise of it and this is kind of how we put the whole thing together but a lot of it like I said it's just based on the research of it [Music] mhm one point me and you speak all the time right yeah and I remember you you saying man that's just rappers and I like like like someone like we was talking and and personal it's personal and and someone saying like oh and I'm like nah Vlad me explaining to you it's not really Rappers that's tell me the premise of was the premise we were talking about somebody that we both had in common like a friend okay I believe he was on 36th Street or what what office was you at on 30 something yeah we were a wew work at one point I think like yeah okay and you we speaking he was just like hey man your boy didn't show up man these these guys goddamn rappers and I remember me saying to you no man don't label it all rappers it's just certain times it's certain individuals who are [ __ ] up individuals who like like if a DJ one DJ don't show up I can't say [ __ ] all DJs all these DJs yeah is that something that you you've learned to work with you you learn to accept it okay you know what I'm saying I I guess because I wasn't always in hipop you know I came in the tech world you know I have a computer science degree from UC Berkeley and I'm used to I've worked for tell you know and Autodesk and and big companies and everything else like that and in those type of businesses people are on time yes yes right people are professional and so forth coming to hip-hop being a half hour an hour late yeah it's normal it's consider that's that's a new normal and it you know it's not it's something that I've never really gotten comfortable with because like I mean look at me today what time I got here early yes yes yes yes right I was rush through here no but my whole thing is like I I guess that I value other people's time me too and they don't always value my time right and in hip-hop is just a little more common place unfortunately you know what I'm saying but you could always thank you like I could always tell a rapper that's a business rapper cuz or we make bets or who's on time okay who's on time I clearly lost the G herbo yesterday oh my one day I bet he was going to be on time lost who G herbo okay he came late and he had had a couple excuses while he was late it was cool but you know what's crazy I was the late guy yeah until I waited oh I can't stand it oh me waiting on somebody oh I can't stand it it it it blows it blows the energy yeah because we sitting there like I'm ready to turn up and this guy comes it's been a couple of times man they come late and I don't want to give them a five I don't want to hug them I don't want to look make eye contact cuz I'm like yo bro you know me and um yeah oh yeah this [ __ ] is crazy but I mean I mean I just want to say this what's the most valuable thing in this world it's time time you can't get it back I'm glad we I can lose some money and I can make it back right but that time I lost waiting for someone right or Worse even worse a cancellation when you youve spent money and time and and there's you know we have 20 people in our company there's a lot of people that that are working to make this happen and then person doesn't show up who's someone who canceled on you dude 24 hours just decided not to show up that's his name 24 hours yeah he used to be called something else just didn't show up okay Asian dollar just didn't show up oh wow um trying to think who else I can't you know those are the two that kind of just you know what I mean and they just uh Tom Hanks son Chad Hanks Chad Han on you didn't show up son was he B bum claded yeah that dude he was in Jamaica yeah just just didn't feel like right wow and it's it's kind it's a slap in the face because you're losing thousands of dollars and time that you can never get back and you know me I've sometimes spent a few days just researching and preparing and poof out the window terrible so you know yeah man it's time the most valuable thing I can never get it back no that's real [ __ ] man overl we went we were so I'm going be honest I'm so happy you came came see us because one um you a legend and what you did like I want to tell you face to face manto man I've been a part of it you changed the way hip-hop has been you know covered you changed it all you you you you interviewed them there was nobody else doing that he was behind the scenes is the only difference you know what I mean that uh uh people don't call you the hip-hop pod guard is because you didn't actually put yourself on camera but I love the fact that you you putting yourself on camera I love the fact and you know what you deserve every accolades our show is about giving people their flowers and I want to give you your flowers I've been wanting to do this I've been wanting to do this listen I've been W to do this since the beginning of drink Champs eight years ago you know what I mean I always wanted to sit down with you because what you do for hip-hop a lot of people don't understand that you put people in the Forefront you don't ask people you know to to go to these places that they want to go but if they do it you do it right but you deserve all that you are [ __ ] hip-hop pillar and we [ __ ] love and [Applause] respect and I just I just want to um I just want to apologize to you for not being on here sooner because a few years ago you had asked me to be on the show and because I had a big ego and you had a ego it turned into no I didn't have an ego it's your ego but just it's your apology it's your apology let's keep it on you let's keep on you I got M later CU of my ego right you know cuz I remember I was explaining this like Sam Sneed called me up and he was like we were talking about doing an interview and um he yeah I want to do your show and uh I want to do drink Champs you and Nori are cool and I'm like not really right to the time we weren't right he goes why and I explained it to him and at the end of the explanation I felt so stupid I that was just the dumbest reason that me and Nori who were actually friends up until that point like this is why we're not cool and I'm like this is dumb like this is not like a real beef like I've had real beef in my life this is not that it was just a ego thing and that's when I reached out to you not too long after it took us about a year for us to kind of make by you know I mean that's what that's what men men is about like sometimes you know what you can't someone told me this other day they said you can't make a misunderstanding out of the misunderstanding the misunderstanding is just a misunderstanding yeah that [ __ ] made no sense in all this to me in the world you can't make a misunderstanding out of the misunderstanding already it's just a misunderstanding leave this [ __ ] alone you know what I mean and leave this [ __ ] alone and uh I appreciate respect you man um uh let let's so we gave him his flowers we gonna play quick time before we play quick time islim how the [ __ ] did you build this chemistry with booy I don't yeah okay so before Vlad TV was the hot and here DVDs which came around the time of the smack DVDs as I was transitioning out of mixtapes because you know CD were going away the mama and pop stores were going away MH uh I was like doing you know I started doing DVDs like Street DVDs where I would get freestyles do interviews everything else like that and I would go to labels and I went to Atlantic Records he was on Atlantic at the time booy and Webby had just gotten signed to at down yeah uh before wipe me down before WIP me down before yeah you should see how like I have videos of this on my YouTube channel like booy look is like a little kid he look like he's about 17 um and I interviewed booy and Webby holding the camera you know what I mean the whole thing and me me and booy kind of formed you know me kind of formed that early early relationship and then you know later on when Vlad TV started to get legs we did an interview and that was the hypnotizer hatred interview and that just went super viral like people still say that to this day and then we do one interview and it reacts and we do another interview and it reacts the numbers just keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger you know we've had interviews that are like 20 million views combined and everything else like that and after a while it just became a mutual respecting it became a business relationship you know he biged you up on our show too yeah and I I'm bigging him up right now that's my man you know I've been to his house you know it was it's like we and it just turned into something like for whatever reason the Chemistry Between Us people just react to it more so than any of my other regular guests right and you we just kept doing it and doing it now it's like we almost try to have booy running all the time one you know we do one interview it's like whatever 30 40 Parts at the time it ends we'll go do another one and then that'll keep running and then you know what I'm saying and everyone just benefits from it right N I ain't going to lie you got me tuned in and and I like I love the fact that it's never repetitive it's always something new you always come with something fresh and new and I'm sitting there like how much more booy can I have and then you manage to say oh no you need more booy and I'm sitting there and I'm like I I did need more booy like I did like it's so entertaining um is that your favorite guest you ever had my favorite guest yeah who's your favorite don't tell me Aaron Hall Aaron Hall was wild like [ __ ] um I mean mean that's a hard question to answer okay okay right because me and booy consistently get the biggest reaction okay um but it's not like I grew up listening to booy right you know what I mean and there's something that's to be said about when you fall in love with music before it becomes your career right and when you interview someone it before before it's for the money and and you're doing it for the views and the money and the cloud or whatever else it's it's pure love right you you're sitting there with your headphones in your in your bedroom listening to a song over and over again and and you know what I mean so you know like interviewing um Smokey Robinson was uh was a moment you know um sitting in when when lunell interviewed Shaka Khan was was a moment interviewing Mike Tyson was was a moment even though scared well he got mad at me at one point so yeah I was scared wait oh what he he interviewed you no I interviewed him okay and I asked the wrong question what happened okay so it was actually a Zab Judah interview okay right so we go to Mike Tyson's gym in LA and Zab Judo is the one that that was doing the interview and and but I'm there and I I I for you know when even when other people do interviews for us I I work with them on the questions okay right so he goes to the whole interview he does his thing and then uh I'm like hey do you mind if I jump in and ask a few questions and Mike's like yeah cool no because Mike knew who I was and he knew some of the people I interviewed whatever else and uh you know you know me I'm going to push the envelope a little bit right so so we're in you got to understand the setting we're doing the interview inside of his actual boxing ring okay so I'm in the ring with Mike Tyson no no no on but we're you know about as far as you know me and afn were this close to each other in chairs doing the interview and you know I started getting into a little bit of the harder questions and one of my questions was well Mike you know here you are you're worth hundreds of millions of dollars you know why are you attracted to these Street guys like Eric Von zip he said what do you mean by attracted and I wish so bad at a time machine to go back and change my words and you know you see that like pissed off my tyon and I'm like and I got to talk my way out of this situation cuz my security is way over there he's not going to get to me in time if Mike lunges at me and your security might think twice might might not even do it I'm being hon That's Mike everybody it twice like man you pay me enough to do that [ __ ] that yeah so so I got to you know I got to dance my way out of this question question and explained to him I didn't really mean it that way and then at one point he got it and then we went on with the interview but it was a moment it was a tense moment it made for good television you know what I mean but it was Mike Tyson is still Mike Tyson and he knows when to he could turn it on this man never got high in his life Mike Tyson gave him a mushroom and a gummy and he took it he said eat that [ __ ] right you damn right e that [ __ ] like holy [ __ ] holy That's Mike Tyson but that was a moment as well it's like yo Mike Tyson for people of my era that's the Muhammad Ali of our era course I tell you some funny [ __ ] I'm going through Saudi no not Saudi Arabia I'm going through Dubai I see M everybody's like Mike Tyson he's just looking he's just looking just intimidated walking through the airport and I'm like it was Nor like oh [ __ ] so he turns around he takes a picture very next day I see a van the holy fa yeah I just interviewed him about ago yeah that's why I bring it up give me you a give me you a you know what I'm saying how was you interviewing van hoi it was dope man it was dope like he's such a a Class Act did he talk about his moms absolutely he oh listen yeah uh he he's a big fan of he's his mama's yeah my mama was definitely a yeah a phrase yeah I I I think one of the the interesting points that he made in that interview was when he was in the Olympics mhm he kind of got robbed he got a bad call okay cuz we heard this story he end up wi yeah hold on okay tell tell the story tell the story okay so during one of the fights he had a bad call and he ended up winning the bronze instead of the gold which he ultimately deserved mhm and uh and I said well did you think to act out whatever else he goes nah my because if I would my mom was right there right there y if I would have acted out she would have jumped into the ring and slap me in front of the whole world right and she would always tell me you're not the only one that's going through this mhm don't don't think you're special and you're the only one that goes through trials and tribulations like take it like a man and that was sort of the theme you know he he had losses yeah you know he he he he wasn't mad at Mike Tyson for biting off part of his ear yeah forgave him that's that's a lot they got a air company together they got a gum yeah man I had him it's okay it's okay it's okay yeah I mean it was just so you know and like like that Mansion you know that he used to own the reason why he lost that Mansion was because his sister took a second mortgage behind his back mhm on that mansion and then by the time he found out he was millions and millions in debt damn wow and he never pressed charges he just let that go you know what I'm saying to lose the house that you think you're going to pass on to your grandkids from your own family member and to not feel angry about it bitter about and not to retaliate on any level yeah man it it's it's a it's a we all strive to that that level a bigger man than most put it like this I see him all the time don't I don't always speak to him cuz he's just an intimidated guy but but he's not really intimidating not at all once he opens his mouth but if he doesn't open his mouth he's very intimidated trust me he walks around like this and you like most most of people get the [ __ ] out of this way yeah by way who wouldn't right yeah but great guy uh met him you would there eyes right we oh I can't even I can't even reveal nothing change the subject holy moly guacamole boom quick time quick time of Slam let me go to the bathroom bathroom break real quick yeah because the quick time of slim I don't think it's going to be quick all so how does it work with rules one more time okay okay explain it one more time you're going to get two choices yeah so this or this yeah and you could say you pick one and nobody drinks or you say both are neither if you say the politically correct one which is you basically don't want to pick one everybody drinks we and if if somebody were talking about inspired you have a story with them please just elaborate tell us the story you know got it got it you ready yep Joe Buton or fat Joo F Joo oh that was hard Tupac or DMX Tupac clue or Funk Flex Funk Flex Tony touch or doop doop Dam this is easy go ahead dirty hairry or SNS dirty hairy Sol assassins or hieroglyphic Sol assass oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait take a shot that's a tough one both okay take a shot I had to think about that for a second I respect that and if you got some stories behind yeah we we told him that thanks a lot Mr shout out shout out to be real man um well I mean I've interviewed both of those dudes and I I didn't know your love for for for cyers Hills to just now but go ahead yeah yeah no I mean um it it's funny because the there's a there's a photo I was a super huge Soul assassins fan I think I smoke weed because of Cypress Hill wow you know what I mean like cuz Cy joint man Cypress Hill made smoking cool why you know at least in my eyes and them and red man I feel like that era was them red but for me like Cypress kind of kind of connected a little bit and like Cyprus came before red man though right yes yeah right like but it's like first album yeah for first album um but getting to me be real mhm and hanging out backstage like we both got high backstage and there's a picture of us and we look like twins what my head my head was shaved both of our heads were shaved at that time and we both like high as hell in this photo you like were part of the I look like I was part of like we look like twins you know what I mean but uh I got to interview I got to interview hieroglyphics as well man and those those dudes really like I said seeing them in Berkeley kind of really got me to to thinking that hip hop is attainable on some level I could actually see them right in front of me you know I could give them a pound and anything else like that so so both of them have a significant in my life so I got I got to say both I respect that wuang or NWA I'm getting NWA NWA NWA holy [ __ ] NWA 100% cuz in fact like I'm going to tell you there there's this one point cuz I was a hip-hop head from elementary school MH through junior high but then in junior high I I got in some trouble okay like I got you know me and this this one kid started getting into it and then the vice principal got involved and he the vice principal started threatening me started saying he'll like bash my head in the wall like that type you know to like a little kid was was kind of [ __ ] up and and my parents were like we're taking you out of this this public school and we're going to put you in this private school M because we not going to deal with this this [ __ ] [ __ ] so I got put in a school a private school where nobody listen to hip-hop wow and you know if if none of your friends are listening to hip-hop you slow you slowly start to you know get into more of the music they're listening to and so forth so I started kind of lose interest a little bit in hip-hop and not listen to it quite as much and then I heard easy E's first album and it was like oh my God what is what was the name EAS does does boys in the hood just that whole album you know Dre hearing Dre for the first time he he said I want to [ __ ] you I want to [ __ ] you too yeah yeah we love you easy yeah we love you easy I want to [ __ ] you easy I [ __ ] you too who we [ __ ] with that that [ __ ] and so NWA held such an important role in my development and wuang is dope no come on like wuang is wuang thank you right lighter yeah ashray yes um but you know and and of course this is the East Coast West Coast thing to a certain degree I understand living in New York like you wuang has a different no I'm going to be honest with you okay uh that's why I got my shot ready I can never choose between NWA and wuang oh you can't to me they had the same impact on me because of NWA I didn't I didn't see their videos I don't know maybe I was poor or something like I didn't get to identify with all of their videos but then wuang I got to see their videos so I got to appreciate it more because got to hear it but I got to appreciate NWA a little more because I didn't have access to everything you know what I mean I didn't um and I always say this on the show I thought Compton was a jail I didn't know that was a place cuz it was like how cooi rap describ rers Island like why K like I don't want to go there I didn't want to go to Compton I was just like wait a minute Compton TR to Compton crazy [ __ ] L ice I said that jail cell is crazy like I don't want that I don't want to go to there come to find out that's a real neighborhood holy moly wacamole all right cool we moving on yeah let do it kpri or Red Alert Red Alert Cameron or mace Cameron Napster or lime wire Napster now right or on Smash now right this is very easy yeah okay New York City Breakers or Rock City crew New York City Breakers cuz that was that was the ones that that I got you know not living in New York those are the ones who I saw on TV and that's who inspired me to break dance on David Letterman right I don't know where it was you know what I mean like you you it was television there's no on demand you know something's on you don't even know where it's from yeah New York City Breakers got me to break dance so yeah absolutely New York City Breakers W sty or Beach Street uh beat street I saw that in the theaters I did not great great movie MTV Raps or Rap City MTV Raps your MTV Raps had such an important role in my life you know I watch almost every episode you know and the fact I got to interview Fab Five Freddy and Andre oh yeah you know what I'm saying um yeah that that that was a lot that that was because you know at the time that was the only you know living in the west coast you don't have Ralph mcdels mhm you know I mean so you didn't get to see that y TV raps is the only visuals that you saw of hip-hop you know when you and I would watch kids break dancing the music videos and I would sit there and try to do it myself well on your own TV raps on your own TV raps there was no other place to watch hip-hop videos but you go on TV raps that was the only game in town to sh or E forage let's take the shot like both yeah let's take the shot I got to invite that please you know and I'm from the bay and and you know I'll be honest um I was listening to two I was a two Short fan before I was a E40 and the click fan uh and me me well me me and both those dudes have relationships now but you know do beat I think was like one of the the the greatest Bay Area hip-hop songs of all time just the the energy of that song and the uniqueness of it um you know Freaky Tales like the whole life is too short and born to act epic but you can't you can't down downplay what E40 has pulled off man E40 created so much slang tell I don't know just all that man you know and yeah but both them dudes I still keep in contact with and you know being Bay Area yeah I'm not going to I'm not going to divide the bay no you can't you can't I'm a drink when the last time you've been in the Bay last year okay last year I try I try to go there once a year or so I went to the Bay last year they told me don't leave your charger in the car I was like my charger they for the first time ever in life a [ __ ] In-N-Out Burger got shut down in Oakland oh that's where it was in Oakland in Oakland because of the crime CU I guess it's by the airport and people were literally like robbing people in their cars and popping their trunks and taking their suitcases and it became so unsafe that In-N-Out has announced they're shutting down that In-N-Out I've never heard of an In-N-Out shutting down in- and out don't close no they don't they don't close yeah everybody's in and out who the hell is staying yo it is leave it to Oakland to [ __ ] up and in and out didn't our court system shut down as well only place in America that a court didn't open because there was so much drugs and so much [ __ ] outside that they didn't um want to open the courthouse is was in I'm I'm not sure I I don't want to Co on you might be right I I didn't necessarily hear that story but you know I mean heard a lot of [ __ ] up [ __ ] that happen yeah unfortunately um but but the in- and- out thing was just like God damn like this here this prooof company that literally shut down but you going to skip over the fact that my friend told me don't leave a charger in the car a charger and I mean it wasn't even a plug-in charger it was just the USB part like they was like no don't leave that [ __ ] in there [ __ ] pick up gazy from Empire Records I'm sorry yeah he he yell I never heard gazi yell he was like take everything out the car I was like what like he's like everything I was like it's a wire he's like they busting your car for wi I remember what was it Lil Pete I interviewed this this Bay artist and he was describing how they break Windows using uh spark plugs yeah and then the whole window just shot and then just I ain't going to lie as a Puerto Rican I used to do that too I ain't going to lie that's an old technique and Sh Stadium I should do that but I was so shocked they still doing it I'm like what like like oh holy moly guacamole but next huh next let's go podcast or Radio podcast yeah you can do that kiss or Fab Fabs Jay-Z or Nas JayZ NPC 60 or NPC 2000 NPC 60 cuz that that was actually the machine that I uh spent a lot of my time making beats on not to say I was great at it I was okay but with the NPC 60 and I I tried the NPC 2000 I think even the 3000 with the NPC 60 something about that the feel of that that machine is is just unequivocal Beasty Boys or Fat Boys definitely Beasty Boys Beasty Boys was like you know like like that first album Licensed to Ill I mean in fact I'll I'll tell you this I was a huge BC boys fan but um when I got my first car a Nissan truck the first car I ever owned the first cassette that I played in that car was BC Boys Paul's Boutique Paul's Boutique and I played the [ __ ] out of that album that was such an underrated sleep the first Alum second album great album the Dust Brothers the production level was like on a completely different level and and that was an album that was kind of slept on probably one of their worst selling albums but but the Brilliance behind that the way the Beats were layered the way they would finish off each other's waps like like like the the structuring of the three of them working together you know what I mean cuz we live in a world of people make music and then they send someone an M3 and then they do the verse and you know the person who did the verse doesn't even hear the song until later on no like they were literally in there writing together later the world type [ __ ] yeah that type of [ __ ] definitely Beasty Boys shout out to the Fat Boys you know I I interviewed um the cool rock yeah the D [ __ ] now cool rock yeah yeah cool cuz the other two passed away Prince Mary D and uh passed away so I got to interview him and I have a lot of respect for the Fat Boys but easy the Beasty Boys right easy analog or digital digital I didn't expect that did you sug Knight or Puff oh man uh I'm tell stories if you want or anything uh okay you picking one though all right yeah well I I would I don't really have a connection to either one so I'm going to say neither so you taking a shot all right cool hold on just salute [ __ ] sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry I'm going tell you a puffy story I haven't told before okay cool yeah going to get the exclusive on this no problem so so you know listen when you're when you don't have a lot of money you don't have a lot of money to buy clothes you rely on these clothing companies giving you clothes right and I hooked up with this really dope one called stal and Dean St oh yeah yeah the they like the throwback jackets like the old like teams like the Negro League teams and everything else like that and um I remember um my man Riker from stal I haven't seen him in a while man shout out to rers his name is Rikers his name is Rikers well his nickname I don't know what his real name is hold on hold on his mama ain't Nam but was what everyone knew about to say m so so Rikers used to always give me this dope dope dope gear I remember he gave me like the the USSR hockey jerseys the knit hockey jerseys and I remember I came in once and he gave me this brown bombers jacket mhm right was like matching hat right and I I was feeling fresh to death MH right so so we're in this club and Puffy's in the club and puffy sends his man to go uh talk to me he was like yo man I work for puffy I'm okay cool cool yeah man um puffy really loves that jacket you wearing he wants to know if you want to sell it to him I'm not going to sell my [ __ ] jacket I'm take Jack what kind what kind of question is that like I was going to take off my jacket give it to another man like what the [ __ ] okay what kind of jacket is this though it was a brown bomber jacket it was a brown you know no name brand to it well Stalin Dean okay stal said Brown bombers on the back and it was like the actual logo of I believe it was a negro team you know like a negro football team of that era okay um and it was a dope jacket okay I get it but I'm not just going to sell another man my clothes especially in a club especially in a club walk home it might have been winter at the time like I I don't know man and that was just sort of rubbed me the wrong way I was just like just a weird you know it's it's one thing to say hey yo man like puffy likes that jacket where did you get it why you know so he could go it's not like he can't afford it I would have told him where I got it but he wanted to buy my actual jacket that's ill so I'm like n I'm relate I'm I'm good man I'm good so I'm just going to say neither okay green Latin or DJ hook kid green ltin cuz me and green have a have a relationship you know we did we did an epic project together usj who could I know but I just know him you know what I mean right Beyonce or Elisa keys I think Beyonce okay Beyonce I mean you know Lea Keys is dope okay but you know and I and I remember the first time I saw them I saw them perform together wow yeah time you see Beyonce Anda ke was Alicia Keys concert and Beyonce came through and did a little guest guest on Alicia Keys set yeah holy moly guac just describe this yeah yeah and watching it and then like Beyonce got off the stage because we were backstage kind of well not backstage but side stage and she walked out she was next to me I'm like damn that's Beyonce like right here arms length like you know Beyonce definitely has an energy that's Mega star Virgo and so forth and Alicia Keys is dope shout out to Swiss you know I mean me and him have always had a good relationship um you know but I I would say Beyonce To be honest yes that's at least Key's my sister too and swi my brother UGK or Outcast this no I ain't going to lie I'm going to take a shot for this one uh UGK UGK and I think Outcast is dope but but UGK like one of my early mixtapes that I did it was like a dirty south mixtape and it was like UGK all through it like pocket full of stones me and Bun B have a dope relationship in fact I'm going to tell you you had a CH Burger I have not I'm I'm planning on it well I haven't been down to Texas in a while all right it's not like they have in avoiding it or not you got to have a they very even the vegan version is they're in Texas and I haven't been in Texas in whatever 15 years um but I'mma tell you this the first time I met Pimp C my man uh Tony Martin was managing him and he yo yo you know we in the studio pimpy you want to come down I said cool let's let's go yeah Pimp C and you produced at the time no no no no no no I was a DJ I was a miake DJ try to in fact I just did a a UGK mixtape at the time okay you know dedication like how you did no no label actually gave me some tracks and have me put together UGK mixtape and so forth exclusive yeah with exclusives on it and stuff like that um so I go down to the studio and and Pimp C is there and I have never seen someone that's just so much energy and it's like story to story and the each story gets crazier and crazier and crazier and crazier and I remember he told me there's this one story I'm not going to name names cuz we all know these people and uh I remember he was like yeah and I was at the bar and this very famous R&B singer was was at the bar he's like yeah she was looking at me up and down and she's like who this [ __ ] think he is E40 or something and I said [ __ ] if you don't know who I am you must be living under a rock and I threw a bag of money in her face Dam and we all know who this is but I'm not I'll tell you afterwards okay but it's like this caliber of story and then the next story is even crazier right and then two weeks later he died I'm going be honest um Pimp C was like like not from this world well he was special yeah he was special he he he he was special and Bun B is dope right but but really like and he'll even tell you like he'll that MC is what really made UGK like like like you know cuz he would sing all the hooks and everything else like that you know I mean b is dope dope rapper but you know when it came to the hooks and everything as well as the versus BC was the one was the glue that held it all together and uh yeah man getting the honor to hang out with pimc for just a short period of time was was important I'll tell you um a story of pimc real fast I had a a group and um they wanted to do a song with UGK UGK asked me for a certain amount of money I went and I got it you know the story yeah and and I gave it to them and Pimp C gave me back my money he's like I just wanted to see you's going to come play boy and I was just like what like the first time ever like he gave me back the check he's like I just wanted to see he was going to come on time I wanted to see if he was going to like I wanted to see do New York people respect us the same way and I was just like oh [ __ ] same thing with 36 mafia I did a record with um well um Project Pat Project Pat wasn't known at the time I did a record for project pack and and 36 mafia had the how this tear the club up and I had a record with 36 mafia just because of that so how important is relationships for you no we're not done got be ain't done I'm sorry I'm remind me to say how important relationship is drama or khed who Dj drama or DJ DJ Drama We address them both with DJ in front their name drama any explanation why I don't have a relationship with k at all really yeah at all like zero and you also went at him about the Palestine [ __ ] well but that that that doesn't have anything to do with okay that it's not that I'm you know mad at him or I somehow try to reach out we just don't you know I have interviewed him in my DVD days and so forth but yeah we just don't we don't have any level of relationship but if you was to go to the store right now to pick up one album D talking about my opinion of okay your opinion yeah yeah my opinion you know me me and drama do have a relationship you know me and drama were like we're in the same freshman class in fact like there's this famous uh Vibe cover where they got all the not the cover but it was on the inside of vibe where they had um this kind of DJ issue where they had like the Legends and then they had like the Next Generation and me and and drama were part of that next Generation photo shoot we're in the same freshman class and I think that me and him if you look at that picture me and him became the most successful dudes wow from that freshman class wow so so I think you know I've always going to have respect for him because we came up together cuz you know R I had a rap phenomenon at the time and then he was gangster Grill at the time and we both kind of chose different past and he became you know more of a produc label so I became a media outlet but you know both of us became I think both of us exceeded our expectations so yeah fire feared or love loved I'm not I'm not trying to be feared me too yeah I don't I don't want anyone to be scared of me on any level cuz I'm not a scary person yeah I respect I I don't I don't I don't need I don't need anyone to to have that type of feeling towards me on any level I'd Rather Be Loved or or not cared about you know what I'm saying but not I don't I don't choose fear over on any level so um afn's favorite argument your guest Tony yo the fragrance Ice Cube or [Music] biggie I mean I would say Ice Cube cuz that ties into my whole NWA thing you know what I'm saying biggie came later um and you know biggy and I love both albums but but Ice Cube Ice Cube is just Ice Cube man I think that was like the so of NWA after Ice Cube left NWA you know the four life album was cool but it wasn't like Straight Out of Compton you know what I'm saying and and uh America's Most Wanted I like better than both of Biggie's albums and death certificate yeah I mean a lot of people say death certificate but for me it's America's most both of them to me are yeah America Most Wanted and you know I talked to Chuck D about this because the bomb squad produced that I thought was just an absolute perfect piece of work just Absol like Ice Cube melded with The the East Coast bomb squad beats was was just such a perfect union and I think people just don't appreciate how great that album is because that next album is more of a West Coast album right you know I mean I think people more leaned into that East Coast people weren't really bumping West Coast Music like that and you know I mean to a certain extent but but yeah I I would say Ice Cube and um and kill that will that EP is you know kill that Will was another great one for me cuz that came right after that that was between America's Most Wanted death certificate and it was really almost like a death certificate 1.5 right right right in a way but yeah no I Ice Cube is brilliant man and Ice Cube's flow is incredible and unfortunately I've never got to interview him you saying maybe one day you know I mean I but I I have so much love and respect for for for CRA I mean cuz I've interviewed DJ yella d C Arabian Prince wow those are the NWA members I've never done Dre I've never done q and of course easy passed away but yeah Ice Cube I almost feels like the last piece that I would like to get one day before you know before it's all said and done Scarface or iced tea I'll say Scarface and iced tea is dope and uh you know power was was incredible and um you know but but but Scarface like like that first that first Ghetto Boys album with the mug shots you know Mr Mr Scar Face was walking down the block like it's like yo what the [ __ ] is this right and then and then like that solo album where everyone's pulling out the guns and the key of coke on the table it's like the level of creativity with this [ __ ] is just like through the [ __ ] roof you know and and I think ultimately you know IC tea I think he got into his bag with the acting thing you know I mean I think once he did New Jack City which I recently saw again it's like yo ice is dope like you know on the acting side of things I think he realized that there's way more money in it but I think Scarface that's like a rapper rapper you know and this is why I think his tiny desk concert got the reaction that it did cuz you just forget how dope of a Storyteller and you know and people people always like what I don't like is everyone says Scarface they forget about Willie D right because wiie D this is my friend who I I talked to last night like he played such a huge role like you know you know I start off our interviews like it's time to step on some [ __ ] toes now [ __ ] them hoes these Co ain't playing Our Song want to hear what the hell going on like like he was so aggressive and and once you get to know him you realiz that he's really like that like this is not an act really he really will beat you up person you know he really put hands on like like like this like that Persona that you saw plus he was writing for for um uh Bushwick Bill right most of bushwick's raps was was scarf was Wily D's pen okay Willie D yeah wiie D wrote wrote A lot of that most of it actually you know so yeah man Willie D and yeah wi and shout out to ice IC tea you know I interv ice tea um at your movie Set that's right remember in the barber shop that's right that's right that's right you was in my movie yeah never came I still got it I still got it I still got it came out I got I got I got my third grade lunch money right well I remember they were filming and I'm like y'all don't want to put a mic a little closer to me cuz you're like where that bar is right now know doing don't worry about it we got great footage it's still it's still going to be used yeah uh Melly Mill or Cass Melly M Melly mail um and I got to interview Mel and um and we talked about how if it wasn't for the message hip hop may have faded away o because up until that point in in his words it was rappers talk about rapping the message was the first serious hip-hop song the first one with the social message the ones that the critics the New York Times and you know the the the time magazines were like oh okay this is there's something here right like there actual reality rap they were calling reality rap like like this is actually painting a picture of life in this particular region and it was you know such a dope song and such a dope beat and um the way it was all put together one of my early 12in singles you know what I'm saying like I I had that on 12 in um and it was like it was such a Monumental thing and it sucks that that Mel doesn't get mentioned with the greats because he he is one of the greats The Voice the presence the structure before there was anything to base it off of right was was Melly Mel right and and people always and I think just cuz it's grandmas flash in the Furious 5 his name is not in there you sometimes forget and you put all the focus on flash which you know flash is a legend but but Mel was the vocalist of that group everyone else was just backup vocal he was the lead right 100% and he like I said like people would always assume that hip hop would just would have blown up no matter what but no like life doesn't work that way there there's Crossroads that if certain things don't happen and I like to compare it to go go n DC go go is the biggest thing ever and outside of DC nobody knows anything about go go it's huge in one region it's a regional music and Hip Hop could have stayed that way if it wasn't for these records that broke through that barrier like the message you see what I'm saying and and you as a real hip-hop head like you can't deny what I'm saying right now right no for sure it was it was those records cuz up until that point it was you know Busy B and you know it transcended reg jump in my limousine with the $100 bill and you know what I mean go play basketball like like it was you know I mean it was fun it was party it was cool like you know but but it wasn't the message raised the bar it showed the potential it show the potential of what it could be and what it is today so and and i' I've interviewed you know Cass I understand I understand the importance of Cass like when I make these choices don't think it's because I don't know who Cass is immensely important yeah no he's very important you know I mean in fact the first hit record in hip-hop which was what oh it's Rappers Delight Rappers Delight taking his was his right you know I'm the CAA a and the rest is fly like no your name is Big Bank Hank like why are you saying you're Casanova fly cuz he literally word for word took caz's lyrics and repped them and it became a hit song and no one knows about publishing or writing credits these kids recording cassette Debs so I understand the importance of cats but once again rappers talking about rapping of that you know flying money limousines basketball pools TV screens like Mel Mel is Mel yeah let spal noise for Melly Mel yeah Tony yo or Lord Jamal Tony yo anything you want to elaborate nope shout out to Tony man that's my man and um we we we formed we we've really formed a good relationship and um and this is something we've that he said cuz you got to understand that for a good 10 years Tony was very quiet now I don't remember Tony being 10 years you did not Tony was 50s man and he was was 100% solid and and did whatever 50 you know what I mean has his friend required him to do and he played his position Tony's a definition of loyalty but Tony was not out there doing interviews putting his face out giving his opinion out until we did the first VL TV interview and now Tony is like a media sensation yeah he is he did Dre Champs right after after that he did yes am I right but but I got to defend Yayo because maybe he wasn't quiet on the media scene but he he's no I I know behind the scenes Tony a was I'm not I'm not yeah but what I'm saying is is that the way that his visibility of where he is now kind of in the same way that you found your second career he's finding his second career and now he's doing more tours and doing more features and and everything else like that and this these are his words and I I feel I feel that me bringing him on and you got to you got to remember that first interview was tense right you know I I know Tony's reputation what what did he say to you and he said to you like he like ly Banks don't like you or something like that he doesn't yeah why does why doesn't L Banks like you dumb [ __ ] I mean like the annoying part about this is that the first time anyone has said Vlad TV on a video was Lloyd Banks and Tonyo no [ __ ] way 2008 I go to gunit offices to interview the both of them and they I do an interview with both of them and they I asked them for a shout out like yo llo talk to New York oh this is you know Lloyd Banks you know check out Vlad you know you tune in to vladtv.com like this is Lloyd Banks and Tonyo I used to go to gunit interview both of them I know both of them everything else like that um so so this is so dumb like Tony like like Banks is really do a lot of interviews okay right so you know we we continue to cover him on on the news site anything else like that I dm'd him a few times hey do you want to do an interview he would just never answer right and then you know if you know Vlad TV every day we do flashbacks okay right so something's happening like I don't know Nicki Minaj is beefing with M stallion so we'll bring up an old Nicki Minaj interview where she's talking about other female rappers from from that time it's a flashback whatever else right and it's it's always labeled flashback right right in parenthesis but it makes it look like you're uh what do they call it trolling not really trolling it's just bringing in you know it's listen like your catalog is important your intellectual property and your ability to monetize it and use it again and continue repurpose it repurpose it is important right this is the film companies have always known this right but but our smaller guys are just learning this now so if I have a 16-year catalog and there's a video from 10 years ago that I could put up that gets another half million views right that I don't have to do any editing I don't have to just don't just throw it back up there throw the word flashback on it which happens all the time now you know we literally every month millions of views comes from just flashbacks I'm going to use that so in this particular case uh we put up a lyd Banks flashback and the writer forgot to put flashback in it oh made it seem like it was made it seem like it was new whatever honest mistake so he he writes me kind of like like a like a nasty DM and I'm like this is when you so this is when you choose to respond to me like after all these ignore DMS you choose to respond to me now MH that was it that was the exchange we we never talked again and then like I oh yeah yeah Lloyd Banks hates you because of that from [ __ ] seven years ago or some [ __ ] like you know what I mean yo telling you Lord yo telling me this yeah you know I'm like all right [ __ ] it then who cares right you know what I mean like he mad at you okay he mad at me like who cares life goes on you know is what it is do you think you you you dealt unfaired failed uh unfair cards because cuz I'm white all right let's say that you think that's the only reason what else you tell me okay some of my closest friends some of my neighbors they white and sometimes they ask me inappropriate questions yeah it's just a part of their character they'll be like all right for instance this white guy lives right next to me and we're all outside doing yoga and he goes well I wasn't doing yoga but he goes this is this is exactly how he described it he said hey don't go over there you're going to get high cuz you know we smoke weed before we work out okay but I don't like to terminology getting high I get medicated my [ __ ] is actually I actually buy my [ __ ] from a dispensary I actually have a receipt right I don't look at it as getting highed at all so I was so offended offended I went upstairs I got my receip I got my medical marijuana card I got my regular and I wanted to show him right listen you're you're in the 90s talking about getting high I get medicated no disrespect so you think that is that sometimes like sometimes it's a question that maybe all right I'm not racially sensitive is that is that what you're saying sometimes I ask questions that are racially insensitive no I'm asking do you think that uh I think being white you're you're not going to relate completely to someone who's black I respect let's just let's just be honest I respect that and you're not going to relate to someone completely who's white that's just the reality now during the course of my adult life from you know my my my sophomore year in college to you know throughout my whole adult life 95% of my long-term relationships have been with black women so you know in my home I I'm being told you know what I mean on an intimate level when I'm doing that and I try to correct myself especially because I'm speaking publicly right you know what I'm saying but even with that of course I'm not going to relate to what it is to be a black person right because when I walk down the street unless they know I'm DJ Vlad I I'm I'm a white guy right you know I even though I'm Jewish you can't necessarily tell I'm Jewish unless you know what to look for you know what I'm saying like I'm you know so I don't know what it's like to be a black person and live in America and I remember when it really dawned on me right was when I went to Africa for the first time when I when I went to Africa I went to Sagal you know where where Aon is is fun you know but this was before they have Dior out there they have what Dior Dior like the Dior you wor your show d d my bad D my bad my bad my bad my bad I I I remember I'm I I lived with a family in senagal cuz the people I was with were had had friends so it wasn't I was in a hotel I was actually living with the sagales family for like two weeks and I was walking around in car and the village small village we were at and everything else like that and I would interact with the sagales and I just remember how how different our interactions would be than with black people in America when I would see them when I don't know them like a level of apprehension that was in America was not there in Africa and it started to dawn on me that like oh meaning they didn't they didn't look at you the same yeah it it was a level of yo this is our [ __ ] we here we comfortable I we're not tripping off you we're not worried that you're not a threat you're not I don't look down on you I don't look up at you you just are what you are because yo this is our country and you're a guest M you know what I'm saying you're a guest in our country and we're friendly we're happy you be here but this is our [ __ ] and you know this is our [ __ ] president's black the whole government's black the postman is black the Milkman is black you you just you're the outsider here you know but you're welcome anything else like that you you start to realize that in America but but there's not the history of slavery and the you know the Jim Crow laws and and the the white only bathrooms and and the [ __ ] and everything else like that in that country you realize oh okay a lot of the a lot of the the tension that happens because of the history in America and you have to go somewhere else to realize it because you're just in it 24/7 you live next to a waterfall you don't hear the waterfall you're next to the waterfall you go away from the waterfall you realize oh it's not so loud over here for the first time ever in life and that's that's what I realized it was like okay now that's why it's so important for people to travel out of the country and see and see other [ __ ] because America is not yes best country on Earth whatever it's not the only country on Earth right you have to see other places and see the similarities and the differences because there's are there is differences yeah oh yeah you know I'm saying and it just made me realize okay like you know I remember like Richard PRI talked about the first time he went to Africa like like he never use the n-word after that you know what I mean like like it it changes you seeing [ __ ] like that yeah it it changes you on on different levels depending on who you are man so like I said of course I'm going to be racially insensitive to certain things you know what I mean and I think to a certain degree people tune in for that because I do have a lot large white you know white fan base of hip-hop kids who are thinking the same things that I'm thinking and they're relating to me as a white kid who loves hip hop talking to someone who isn't white right about these very serious topics something they they'll never get to do they'll just watch it on the internet you know what I'm saying so so it it is what it is so yeah I'm absolutely guilty of it and and I try to work on it on a daily basis I I'll tell you this D go right there this my this my friend when we go out jogging he jumps in front of cars cuz he loses his white privilege to the fullest by the way I enjoy it I enjoy it he jumps right in Fr the car they startop they ain't hear no white person a fact it's just a fact and Diego walks over there he don't give a [ __ ] he's swinging his arms he'll jump in front of any car he doesn't care only time I disagree with him it was a child who uh uh hat came off and he was going to run like [ __ ] that child [ __ ] that hat too he's about to die he thought he's going to run in front of the [ __ ] highway right to get a hat and the the the parents didn't even move we said Diego you going move your ass but we were in Amsterdam and I look at I'm smoking cigarettes at the time and I look they're only watching me I'm supposed to be the privileged person you know [ __ ] that I am the privileged person I guess right Diego you there so I'm like yo I'm going to go outside and smoke a cigarette smoke cigarettes at the time I'm going outside smoke a cigarette every single time I walk through the door they stop me and say you can't bring your drink out my friend right there I just went like this gave it to him and he walked right out the front door huh oh he had he was double fisted and then we go outside and I'm just looking at the security you [ __ ] ass [ __ ] drinking I'm double fing too like smoking a cigarette and then I I I did it 12 times but did they stop me every 12 times they said you can't drink and I was just like all right cool I got good white people that was with me and I would just but that's that's [ __ ] and you know where we was at where we was at I said where we was at Amsterdam Amsterdam right and one one of the most liberus free countries to smoke marijuana yeah I've been there multiple times yeah so it it does exist racism is everywhere bro of course it is yes yeah you can't pretend like it doesn't and you can't um deny the effects of that history because there's you know I interviewed Bill Duke who had grandparents that were coming out of slavery like you know like really I I believe was he alive when the Emil news broke I think it did I think he was yeah he he remembers the Emil story you know so so you got people alive right now that dealt with that [ __ ] yeah this is not ancient this is not jesus' time people just arguing over some [ __ ] that nobody technically knows about no this is some real [ __ ] man and um can't just pretend it doesn't exist you got to you got to accept it you got to accept your role in it you know you're not going to be a perfect person you know you're going to [ __ ] up you know that you need good people around you they're going to check you on it be like hey man what you said here was was [ __ ] up and some of my guests do that you know the Airy Spears of the world will sit there and check me on camera Michael G white will check me on camera and I'll run it right yeah you know I let yo yeah I [ __ ] up my bad yeah yeah it's only one last question this is this is the one last question we say isn't a trick question okay oh no no no I got we said booy oh okay booy or Aaron Hall this before booy okay yeah booy all right then now this is one last question that we say it's not a trick okay loyalty or respect respect respect I mean a a person a person will be loyal to you to an extent you can't you can't expect you get what you earn you know what I mean you get what you pay for you you you get you can't expect a person to be loyal to you when you're disrespectful to that person you know what I'm saying you can't expect loyalty to last past past like a a a level of comprehension that that no one really could understand you know like like I I I have a staff of people and I understand they're going to be loyal to me as long as I pay them right but at the point that I can't pay them anymore I don't expect them to keep working for me for free right you know what I mean and I don't expect that and they understand that I'm not going to keep paying them if they stop working you know and and you do have friendships and you do have principles and everything else like that but we're all humans M you know but but but the respect that's an ongoing thing it's an active thing it's happening right now like like me and you are respecting each other right now right me being here you know because of the respect I have for you and us having that conversation and you allowing me to come on this platform with all the wars that you won and everything else like that this is respect that you're seeing in action it's not about loyalty right you know what I mean okay the loyalty is whatever you know what I mean and and we have been loyal to each other and everything else like that but but but the respect is something you have to keep working on right it's not just something that you you know and and you know listen I've I've interviewed so many people so many Mafia guys right that that went through the the pricking of the finger and gave and and told that their mafia boss that if my my kids are dying and you call me I will drop them and go see you Coan norra and they've killed people cuz they were told what to do and they've killed their own family members you know Sammy the Bull killed his brother-in-law killed his brother-in-law cuz he was told to do that [ __ ] cuz they took the and at some point that loyalty expired and all of them that I've interviewed have said and I was going to I was going to do a hundred years and I was going to jump out the window but then this happened and but then I heard this tape of him saying this oh then they threaten my family it's always a good excuse to be disloyal there's always a great excuse to be disloyal yes am I right are you disagree with me that's no no that's ill that's ill I'm saying that's a person will always find an excuse to be disloyal to you wow will always find an excuse and you may not agree with that excuse and you yo uh I just interviewed Trick Daddy today right this interview's not out yet this interview is not out but but this story my man Jake he he knows what he he was sitting right there like like this you got understand Trick Daddy was in tears when he was telling me this story right so Trick Daddy is a multiplatinum artist at this point all his big records he's like album number five number two on Billboard take it to the house let's go is out he's touring whatever else right and he said like when he got his first million dollars he said he told Ted Lucas don't give me that money break it up in 20 $30,000 chunk so all the people that are there for me I'm going give them this I'mma break them all off I'm going to give this person this money this this person you know take care of everyone who who took care of me when I was homeless and you know in the street and everything else like that you know what I mean and he and he went back to Liberty City to go hang out on this basketball court and he sees one of his one of his friends that he paid off back then but but felt that he didn't do enough and he said he didn't do enough or the person the person felt that that that the trick didn't do enough for me he said man you're not allowed in this [ __ ] court anymore I know this is you think this your city and what you you can't come back here again I'm still here you can't come to this [ __ ] court anymore trick was so hurt when he heard that and and and he's holding back tears as he's telling me the story you don't know where interviews is going to go right you know you I'm asking a question and then and then and and I'm getting this react he said he said I I I went in my car and I got my pistol and I I I I pull my pistol out of that [ __ ] and I said your daddy got killed from someone that came back and killed him your brother got killed cuz someone that came back and killed him [ __ ] I'm coming back and I'm going to kill you for telling me I can't come here after everything I've done for you and I'm going to call your grandmother and tell her what the [ __ ] I just did did and and he's holding back tears telling me this story and that [ __ ] pressed charges on him and suit him and he said I did so much for this [ __ ] I I I I you know what I mean I did so much and I I I hooked him up with my sister probably could killed him at that moment and he did he did it luckily right but he he there was repercussions to that action but that that that's how upset he was and you would think that a [ __ ] would be loyal to you after you've done so much for him and he hasn't done something for you but he'll he'll find a reason to let you know that you're not welcome and spit in your face so so I don't I don't want to hear about that loyalty [ __ ] that that was disrespectful it's about respect because that's an ongoing process that we keep building with each other I can't I can't expect you to be loyal to me for something I did yesterday if I continue to be disrespectful to you today and tomorrow D so yeah that that's an easy answer for me I ain't gonna lie you ain't supposed to take a shot but I got to take a shot for your answer that was mad deep [ __ ] holy [ __ ] I'm G take a peep oh damn I got take a PE too hold on yeah hurry up come on let's go under now we doing something different we changing it up with the hockey lafa yes we are uh we're going to start off straight with the hockey league what we did it took all the first place teams against who they're playing against and we're going to go down like this so the first game is Vancouver NS they are the first plays out of Pacific Division they are playing Anaheim Ducks Vancouver kugs against the Anaheim Ducks higher or lower who's winning well this is very easy uh it's very how familiar are you with hugging very okay continue okay says Vancouver no you can't smoke higher lower I'm I take Vancouver to score at least four goals in that game higher efn four goals in hockey is equivalent to 35 no it's not I like I like how you wrong it is all guys I'm going documented I'm going 100% Vancouver clearly before I love going to Vancouver any other uh places um in Canada when I enter the country they pull me over Vancouver do not Vancouver does not they let me go through I don't know it's cuz they like criminals I don't know I don't know but Vancouver's always had my back so I'm going one of the beautifullest places I've ever seen on Earth even summertime they have the summertime on on the low but up top they have winter you can walk to Winter you can go to Winter it is real I love it I never even heard of that skiing yes yes and it was one of my number one markets for years so I'm going to um I'm go Vancouver we call Vancouver job official Don Diego what are you going for I'm going to say Anaheim Anaheim yeah what the puck is a Canuck ah what the puck is a Canuck I'm going Canada Canada Canada when it comes tockey man I think I'm going to side with Diego we're going with Anaheim this shout out to Anaheim I lived there for a small time one of the worst teams in the league we appreciate now we're going to go right into the NBA games D for tonight don't forget drink s tonight's games tonight go on the app now download the app get your 100 bucks under Jazz 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quick time Islam he did everything what is going on with you and Joe Biden why why y'all can't get along well he can't get along with me I'm I'm fine with him yeah yeah we can't do like a a a a panel together we can't do a panel together and I mean he said he told academics he's willing to do an interview with me on academics platform but my thing is that there's so much baggage with him is that we we have to have a conversation like I was going to go on drink Cham St I'm talking to you first okay you know what I'm saying wait we don't have a a 1% thing compared to what me and Joe had okay but what happened like cuz all right how the [ __ ] okay so so what what happened was this okay this story so I did an interview Joe Joe lived down the street for me when I lived in Jersey that was Jersey Boys yeah 2008 I'm launching flat TV hit him up I want to do you know hey you want to do an interview cool show up to where he lives do an interview puts it out whatever life goes on you know the hary days H is this the hary days he was dating to Harry yes Mr har days absolutely 100% s% you you'll see why okay so I do the interview with Joe interview comes out so life goes on you know we're we're doing interviews we're doing interviews and you know Joe was kind of like the early put his life out on the internet him and vog he was a vlogger there we go thank he was one of the early hip-hop vloggers so he's putting out his stuff blah blah blah and I'm I'm following his stuff I'm following his YouTube channel whatever and I go and watch a video and he's dissing this rapper named Ransom right he was like oh yeah yeah Ransom is like a Honda and I'm a Lamborghini or something something something he's dising I'm like I didn't know who Ransom was I looked him up I'm okay I was a dope rapper out of Jersey you know so we reach out to Ransom it's like hey you know we seen okay let me stop you right there I gotta be this guy today okay you have a relationship with Joe I did an interview with Joe that doesn't make a relationship one interview that's true one interview but most of us I got to be Devil's Advocate okay once I do an interview for you I kind of feel like I have a relation ship with you to a certain exent so do you think that Joe automatically thought that damn how the hell I just did an interview with him and that he going to interview my enemy you think this could that be where it started I'm asking sure okay absolutely and I take responsibility for that okay I I I I understand that you also got to understand that um in today's climate you just go on Instagram and you make a response video and then everyone picks it up and then boom let me represent for you let Mees for you this is before YouTube no I mean before Instagram before even Twitter Twitter was but let me represent for you there's been times I've done Vlad interviews and I I regretted what I said called you yeah and you honored me yes sir so okay continue I just want I just want to be clear of that yeah there's been times plenty of times I called you I say h you know what I might have not been in the right frame of mind I remember we did the interview in your hotel room yep yep you called me up and you had me cut out like 90% of it yeah my bad right my bad I think the Kevin Gates part was the only part that you you okay to leaving and then that's Kevin Gates yeah I like Kevin Gates exactly no no no the part about his cousin like oh him [ __ ] his cousin yeah funny moment I can I keep this I think fine keep this but everything else I took out okay you asked me take and you know something this is like a professional courtesy in the business because I do interviews on other platforms and call them up and say hey could take this part out like I did Breakfast Club this one part where I felt like if I respond to this guy it's going to turn into a big [ __ ] thing so please take it out they took it out life goes on you know what I'm saying and usually before it comes out that's the time to ask not to put it out and I do that for you people do it for me right whatever right I respect that so Joe talks about Ransom and we hit up Ransom say hey do you want to respond ransom's like absolutely hell yeah I want to respond so I send one of my camera people to go interview Ransom Ransom responds and then he raises it up a notch he starts yeah Ransom starts talking about how fabulous was was messing with Tahiri which I guess is the truth because they used to date before Joe whatever else Joe went ballistic after seeing this interview and decided to get a crew together and then take it from a war of words to actually a physical situation and he goes and goes on ransom's block and some sort of altercation happens but why do you have anything to do with that because I well and I'll explain to you okay I I'll explain to you right an altercation happens with Ransom I guess like a gunshot was involved and stuff like that it was serious but you don't really know any of this yet until Joe puts out his response video bragging about what just happened and threatening Ransom that if he says anything he's going to put out the video of the altercation so we we put that up I mean we we put that on the site and you know we're covering the back and forth so you know because vladtv.com is a newsite so then we get a call from Ransom and he was like yo I got a video I want to give you that I want y'all to post Ransom mistakenly on Ma haa said that I was filming it or something I wasn't even there I was I wasn't there for either of the filming wait so a ran said that on M mat was like oh Vlad was Vlad was not there when we interviewed him about the Joe situation Vlad was definitely not there when he handed me this video that he shot by himself and when we watched the video it's Ransom and his his crew walking up to one of Joe Bun's people not Joe not Joe one of Joe Bun's people confronting him about what had just happened and ransom's man slapping Joe button's dude mhm in the video M and we put that out mhm and then Joe Buton basically makes a video responses like fine Ransom you win Vlad you win y'all are stupider than me you know y'all [ __ ] ridiculous n [ __ ] this I ain't doing this dumb [ __ ] anymore whatever whatever and then Ransom ends up going to jail over over some [ __ ] not over that over something else well over the situation that happened and the video that wanted to put out I think ultimately was was involved in that the video that he gave me to put out the video he provided for me so this is the reason why people think you working with the police that's the reason why right there which is yeah because that you know and [ __ ] like that well the video is him is one of his man slapping somebody he didn't go to jail fact you posted that's he asked me to post it but you don't have to post it of course I don't but he asked you know there's repercussions to those videos he asked to post it CU it's a it's a slapping video I didn't even know about any of the gunshot [ __ ] or whatever else it's a slapping video like what is that a misdemeanor if that seriously but it could snowball I guess that's what people will say that like would you do that today would I do that today would you would you continue back and forth knowing that it could spir out of control no see this is but this is but this is me at 50 right you know we were you know but I also at what I'm 50 on 50 saying as a 50y old oh yeah now exactly which was my age by as a 34 year old that you know what I mean but but you also realize that okay I'm going to pass on it but someone else is going to put it out right you know what I mean so me not putting it out really makes no difference at this point right that's but that's also excuse you know like no I understand but there's lots of stuff I don't put out there there's lots of stuff that crosses my desk and I'll actually call the person up right and I'll say listen I just got this video or I just got this paperwork mhm and it's about you and it's legitimate and I'm not going to put it out but I'm letting you know that it's out there right as somebody else might someone else might and I'm going to give you an early warning on this but I don't need to be the guy at the edge of all the drama anymore like but you know but this was a very different Hungary Vlad back then right you know what I mean and this was very early in the internet and and this was very it's normal now it wasn't normal back then and because of that chain of events and you know and it just turned into a [ __ ] you from both ends for the next however many years it'd be [ __ ] Vlad and' be like [ __ ] Joe he would say some [ __ ] and I was and he would do an interview and I'd be brought up and I would do interview about him and he'd be brought up and it would just went back and forth went back and forth you know and but but in my eyes him and Ransom are cool now yeah and that's who we really got into it with that's who really the altercation happened I'm just covering it him and Ransom are cool he's still mad at me I'm always like I'm not tripping like if Joe wants to get on the phone with me later today I'll have a conversation with him and I'll take responsibility for the mistakes that I made I don't know if he will but doesn't matter you know what I mean and and you know what I mean will we can we do business at one point of course we can that's really more on him but we can't just think about it when me and you had our tension I'm not just going to come do drink Champs not knowing what I'm walking into right you know what I mean right could be an ambush like who who the [ __ ] knows me no no no Ambush that drink sh no I'm saying like you don't you don't know if your pass is a pass your pass is a pass no but what I'm saying is like yeah so so that that's really the me and Joe story and and neither one of us were scared of each other we all have money we all have security we all have guns like we all we all men we all have gotten to this point by standing up on our on our you know principles and ideals we're both have big fan bases like you know it is what it is but that that's that's me and Joe in a nutshell but I've always said like it's not that serious I've been in way more serious [ __ ] than than what me and Joe have gone through like that [ __ ] is light as far as I'm concerned so if he ever wants to have a conversation with me but you know he just had Dr Umar Johnson on and when my name when Umar brought up my name he's like [ __ ] Vlad you know so clearly he's mad Umar said [ __ ] Vlad well no Umar brought my name up when talking about sh what's that what did Umar say oh Umar just was like I'm out here building schools DJ Vlad ain't building schools DJ vad is also not taking money for the schools that have haven't been launched yet but that's another story but when he said that Joe was like [ __ ] Vlad oh [ __ ] but whatever it's [ __ ] Vlad like what it's just words like you know what I mean but but is that you know but it's like all right [ __ ] Joe too you know and and this is and this is how we keep rocking this may be past our lifetimes who knows but I I'm not tripping right I'm really I'm really have no animosity towards him at all right I am happy for his success he's really carved out a lane um I feel that he is also like one of the few popular podcasts that do well without external guests right the rest of us really revolves around the quality of our guests right he's able to pull it together with his own crew of people and sometimes he has guest sometimes he doesn't but you know what I mean so he has to you have to give him props for that and he helped Pioneer the space for everybody at least hip hop yeah absolutely man and he deserves all all the money and the accolades that that that that he's been getting I've never hated on Joe and his business uh on any level but you know it's [ __ ] me [ __ ] you too that's basically do we take a shot sure Salo Salo Salo a [ __ ] that's the mamana now mamana is coming out Salo Salo I heard Elliot Wilson say say recently yeah he was like journalism and being media used to be corny used to be like people used to like stab you for having an opinion and now everybody wants to be media have you ever saw this day coming I mean I'm not surprised meaning meaning that well I mean listen let's just let's just keep it 100 keep it 100 like there's just a lot more money in it now people have realized that right so so you could you could paint it how you want to paint it but there's just a lot more money in it and social media has embolden everybody think yeah and it's easier to build up a following and and you know what I'm saying and especially if you're already a celebrity and have like Kiki Palmer has a [ __ ] podcast Fel forel has a podcast like who could Fel not get right like I'm supposed to like I compete with Fel right do you know how hard that is it's not fair it's it's not [ __ ] fairing not only is he forel the mega producer but now he's the head of [ __ ] Louis V who's going to tell him no you know what I mean yeah I got you might get some some exclusive Louis sneakers at some point for saying yes I ain't going to lie it took me so long I had a whole Louis outfit and I was like damn [ __ ] if I wear this I'm going to [ __ ] up and I said you know what I'm meeting with Fat Joe F Joe B me this sweater he brought me this sweater like who who was there no not three hours ago you [ __ ] six months ago I couldn't fit it so I had to have a um meeting with Fat Joe not a me and I was like I Gotta Wear this and I was like it it just worked perfect but but I'm I'm proud of for real taking over Louis but [ __ ] he did Super Thug hey man what what what what hey man damn that that was the record I was playing when I moved to New York homeboy I came to party girl was looking at me that that beat that beat godamn it one of the greatest beats of hip-hop yes godamn I'm supposed to compete with this [ __ ] when it comes to guests he got he got [ __ ] Scissor on his show yes yes I'm supposed to compete with that I'm supposed to compete with that DJ Vlad I'm not gonna lie um how do you feel about Zan low um I don't I haven't watched any of his interviews you know I mean listen I don't think nobody watches his interview you work for Apple you're going to get apple like you know what I mean you going to get people one of the big platforms like working for Spotify you're going to get you're going to get special treatment and special favors and everything else like that I haven't watched enough of his stuff to say is good or bad I'm not just going to it's not like I'm hating or jealous of it you know I'm not hating no he has his role but you know he doesn't own his own content and everything else like that he he he has his own role in what he does and you know he gets a lot of big guests and everything else like that but I I don't know it's him and I do differently but but to answer your question there's just a lot more money in it right now yes um and when you're already a celebrity it's much easy and and you know when people come to me and say Hey I want to start a podcast what do you think I should do I always tell them the same thing all the big podcasts when you look at the the landscape they're only big because of the guests that they can get consistently yeah right Kodak Black Kanye yes you know what I'm saying like the level of guests that you guys have gotten right Nas like you know I back when you were you and I were talking I congratulated you for that like like the you are where you are yes because of nori and efn I I get it but you take away all those big guests and it's drink Champs is a very different drink Champs you know what I'm saying it's just we're just keeping 100 you take vlad's guests away and if it's just me like it's a very different Vlad TV you take away booy you take away Theo you you take take away you know the Mike Tyson of the world like whatever like you know so you're already a celebrity you already have relationships right but it's the story you tell okay yeah no but you know and yeah I mean listen there there is a skill set but you know you you you get the right guess and you figure out how to do this MH you know it's not like Shannon sharp had to do a whole lot with Cat Williams right right Cat Williams let go right Shannon Cat Williams came with his Uzi loaded loaded like loaded and he had an extra clip in his two ears yes he was right he had the [ __ ] in the socks you know what I mean you're like where did he pull out that we're not taking nothing from Shannon sh we're not but Shannon essentially just had to press the record button and sit back if sh to not talk during that whole interview and just let cat be cat it would be just as impactful yes you know what I'm saying yes you're very true but my my only push back to that is that it's consistency too because those are anomalies when you have those big you know episodes or whatever guests cuz when we started drink Champs not even CBS who Distributors believed in it really that much they were like let's see do some demos and we did a couple episodes and and it just it took off because I think at that time we caught lightning in a bottle it was it was also the environment that we were getting people that people kind of had forgotten about a little bit Yeah and we're bringing back these stories and rehashing this stuff and I think that that's a big component for a lot of podcasts finding your own lane being consistent and yeah of course if you get big guest on a certain consistent basis big guess consistency and everything else like that and um now you want another shot I just got I just pulled another shot Sor I good sorry Sol this is so great can continue you know but now now the space is is is a lot more crowded ever since Co cuz that's what everybody every C everyone everyone started podcast now now you have actors athletes everybody you know wives of CEOs um you know everything rock star got a podcast yeah everything everyone got podcast and yo you know it it's you know it was much easier to get interviews in 2008 when Lun vad TV than it is now you know um I mean it's easier to a certain degree because we have the relationships and we have the track record and we have budgets and anything else like that but you know listen I mean I'm competing as forel right I am like when I see a forel interview it's like I I got to outdo that you really feel you're competing with him I don't see I know what he means no I know what he means but I just don't see the comparison to compe he's he's 1 million per correct I I am there's a pair of eyeballs that I want to go to my channel as opposed to his all right let let me just say I feel those same will go to yours just as much not necessarily not necessarily I'm just saying it could I'm saying you're one of the most what's the most important thing you got is time and time is limited right you see what I'm saying so so you could say that but a person only has a short certain amount of time to watch you got to remember you're one of the most loyalest people ever when we had Kendrick Lamar at Rock the bells or where he we didn't have Kendrick no we never had him saying oh he was supposed to come to right the lab tweeted that [ __ ] right once I tweeted it I tweeted you got questions for uh uh uh kin Lamar and then it was rolling loud that he was coming to my loud then all of a sudden people called us and was like this interview is not happening no longer and then Zay low have it and let me just say something because I'm not going at Zan low at all I'm never like actually diss Zayn low I thiss the politics that come along with zann low it's not him using as an example I love Larry Jackson I love everybody but they didn't understand what was going on I did because that interview was gone very fast so why I don't announce [ __ ] until it's already done unless it's a regular guest that I know that no one could monkey you know I'll say hey what do y'all want to want me you know like like I have like a community section like like like a paid member section of Vlad TV so I'll go to the members and be like hey what I ask booy my next interview right because I know that no one can stop an interview between me and booy right it's just impossible you know but if I had a Kendrick interview in the bag I I wouldn't tell myself about it learning that's my learning list it was me who tweeted and to just in defense in to explain that situation it was the label setting it up and then he he he got in late and he was headlining rolling loud he had to get straight to the stage yes very true so we were we were cutting it close with that one yeah but you still can make [ __ ] happen you want to make sh Happ sure but now when when the thing is you don't know how the communication is with his team and when the label setting it up you know that we haven't had a TD interview since like 2010 it was inter scope that was actually the so you know and me and top know each other he called me last year like you know we we're neighbors I think actually so it is what it is man it is it is what it is are you satisfied with what hip hop has presented to you or it it surpass my expectation it's pass it surpass man like like I started later like I moved like I became I was doing hip-hop fulltime when I was about 28 29 I wasn't like you m that that started as a teen that just grew up into it and always had been part of it and grew up in a section surrounded by rappers you know what I mean like like you grew up around the nazes and the mob deeps and you I that came later to me in life and then I just thought it would be a hobby you know and and to to realize one day like I'm actually part of this m like I'm legitimately part of this yes hipop pop fans are fans of DJ Vlad of Vlad Lau oh oh of no of vladislav lovy the name I was born with a kid from Ukraine that didn't speak English when he was born that now I'm actually a real that that's worth worth more than me than any check or any you know award or trophy or car or house or piece of clothing it's like I I'm actually part of the hip-hop story in my own way I'm not a rapper I'm not a producer right I'm I don't sign artists but I do what I do and I I do it at the highest level right and I millions of people tune in every day right to hear what the [ __ ] I got to say in this genre that I love that I've devoted a large chunk of my life to really at this point yeah there yeah from about 20 yeah I'm almost half my life to at this point like I didn't think this was realistically going to happen did I was I watching y tv rap saying yeah I'm going to be the next Ed Lover did I read double XXL saying and and and the source and say yeah one day I'm going to have a medial that's bigger than both of these [ __ ] medials which today is true wow right Vlad TV is you combine double XL and the source and you don't have of Vlad TV daily impact on on any level it is what it is you know shout out to the Freshman issue and that's where it ends for double XL um you know so so it's like the fact that I know that I'm part of this legitimately and yeah you going to have your detractors that's fine everyone does you know not everyone is a Jay-Z fan not everyone is a Nas fan not everyone's a Big E and A Pac fan but right to know that I'm legitimately part of it has so exceeded my expectations I didn't think this was realistically ever possible when I was listening to the first easy ke album you you came from a different mind State cuz early on it was clear that you were going to be part of this you know how old when CNN album came out 19 how old were you how old were you I was 17 that's what I'm you're a teenager yeah my junior year in high school you GNA tell me that I'm going to be part of Hip Hop s California white kid named Vlad leovy [ __ ] out of here come on it's a joke what do you want what would you want your legacy to be known as in in hip-hop um ultimately to take my ego out of it because my ego is going to go away when I go away but when you look at the Vlad TV catalog the type of interviews that we do are life story pieces that's fine right that that's what I do when I'm met up with Trick Daddy today we started a birth in Liberty City and we talked about his mom who had 11 kids by 10 different men Y and I thought this his pops this his mom's his mom had 11 kids by 10 different men and then his dad had about 10 kids as well so there's you know whatever there you go three you know two dozen you know kids you know like and and we we take it piece by piece through this through through these set of events leading up to his how he first started rapping you know what I mean the trials and tribulations and all the albums and all the big songs to where we are right now my collection of Life pieces on important people of this era is probably the biggest collection in the hip-hop space and the hip-hop space includes people like John Witherspoon who did his only life story piece with me wow you know um it includes people that passed away that never got to tell their life story outside of lad TV we have that collection that catalog that unless someone manages to destroy it somehow will be around for thousands of years way way past my family will be able to benefit from this but but you know that's cool but when people write report like when you you know like you watch a movie like Boomerang and you like yo the belt guy like this guy is and you watch Friday yo Pops like yo who is this guy there's only one place to find out who he really is yes there's pieces there's interviews that you could piece together and somehow mush it together but to hear about how he became who he is right we're the only ones that actually bothered to to do the research and put our resources into that and um that's what I want the Legacy to be to Leave Behind these stories for people later on that were important to me and were important to millions of other people and made an impact and we exceptional people whether they're actors whether they're athletes like a Vander you know like like a Pete Rose who I just interviewed who will never make in the Hall of Fame because of the gambling but he's has more hits than any other person probably ever for the rest of baseball to to the you know the great producers like you know Rodney Jerkins or Teddy Riley um to the great singers like Shaka Khan or Robinson to to People's First interviews like um the Migos you know what I'm saying like first Migos interview yeah was was with me get the [ __ ] out yeah in Atlanta first ever first ever first ever who called you QC no I was in Atlanta and Coach K was like I was trying to get a a Gucci interview Gucci Man interview and heci man Gucci was being clone or regular Gucci regular Gucci okay before he got cloned okay and Coach K was was was was like managing him and I was like yo how can I get a Gucci interview oh I got you I got you but can you first interview this new group that you know we're pushing right now called information and you a research driven person I just had to make it work and and off said well you know I just asked a few kind of general questions got a little information from him and you know it was relatively generic offset was locked up at the time so it was really just quo um and take off you know what I'm saying but but that was their first ever ever interview the [ __ ] out you know so so these these pieces that you know could be upscale through Ai and you know you create 4K versions of it even though they're they're low quality you know you know which we've been doing with some of our older catalog pieces like like these are these are important pieces man the Kei D interview is an important piece yeah that's an important piece cuz Kei only told his story completely for the first time ever on Vlad TV and you saw what happened right with with all that that's that's the real Legacy that I want to leave behind and I I I think that's an important thing and you know I mean and yes yes I do me and booy we rock out we talk about current events and everything else like that and and that gets 10 15 20 million views sometimes and that's dope right but but the underlying you know that's almost the engine that kind of drives the underlying purpose you know what I mean you always got to do different stuff to to get what it is that you really want to accomplish and it's a good way to accomplish it he's my man these are fun interviews you know but like yo like these stories um that a lot of times are being told for the first time ever not everyone's going to get a documentary about them but a lot of people have Vlad TV pieces of them telling their own story all right when is Vlad TV documentary coming out I don't know Worldstar asked me if I want to do one I'm like I'm good you saying Worldstar offered documentary on me a document that's kind of fire yeah but it was you know it wasn't any sort of real you know there wasn't a budget or anything you know what I mean if I do it I I feel like your own budget you you're your own yeah no I mean listen you own your own material correct right yeah I own everything yes I mean look if if someone you know it's not like I mean if if a director that I really admired like if Hype Williams wanted to do a Vlad TV documentary yeah let's let's rock out do it you know what I mean because BR rner I'm sorry Brett rner yeah Brent Ratner like you know someone who I admire you know visually in terms of they put pieces what's that Paul Hunter who's that you don't I I I know the name but remind me who he is yeah that that that was like another director yeah director of hip-hop commcial yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah F Five Freddy if you want something with me yeah I got you know I know Fab I've interviewed Fab like you know I mean like someone like that if they wanted to come do some [ __ ] you know what I mean I'm sure world star meant well but you know I mean but what I'm saying is yeah if they want to come do some [ __ ] and and you know I think there's more I don't I don't think I've reached my Peak yet M you know what I mean I I feel I have to reach more of a peak in order to to think about something like that I still have years left because when we look at your website right it's similar to Netflix the only difference is you don't give us the number one two three interview or whatever whatever but NE but you give us the numbers Netflix does not right do you think that's a mistake well I mean the website is the website that's always been a secondary part of the business the YouTube channel is the YouTube channel and you can see the numbers yeah absolutely that that that's like 90% of the business so all all right so explain that what what happens to you if if YouTube changes in the way you can monetize do you have a a plan for that well I'll put it like this number one there's always going to be a place to put great content right you create dope content and there will always be a a way for people to find it and you to put it somewhere whether you find it now whether you it's YouTube or SnapChat that we use these days or it's Facebook that's a constant [ __ ] nightmare for us or if it's Netflix or Amazon or something else like that there there will always be a place and you know it may not be the way we do interviews do 10 Clips a day it may just be be one powerful piece a year right you know but you also don't know what the future holds right you you would like to say that but you also don't know where there might be a day that let's just say YouTube totally let's just say YouTube shuts down you know YouTube shuts down there's no other place for independent content like mine I've I've lived my life financially pretty conservatively I've invested you know I've always pushed the whole stock investment stuff like that you know what I mean I own my house outright um I don't buy [ __ ] I can't afford um I could always if I need to cut [ __ ] off and and and live you know I I I could I could technically live out the rest of my days with what I've accumulated right now and I mean I'd have to tone down my lifestyle I wouldn't get go shopping as much as I do now but whatever who cares shopping like I I I I could live out my the rest of my life comfortably based on how I've lived my life up to this point I've never lived on the edge cuz I've lost it all at one point right exceeded you I mean like i' I've when I moved to New York I was homeless because I've [ __ ] off all my money before so I I knew you know when you lose it all that's the best teacher ever of how not to lose it all cuz the back of your mind you always remember how you lost it all and it's possible you always remember it's always possible right so hey man for all ends it was a great [ __ ] run we you know what our YouTube channel is like three billion views all together that's like the whole country of China like you know what I mean like I I I have I walk around I get love people want to take photos with me they tell me how much you know they they'll talk about certain interviews that that connected with them like you know what I'm saying like i' I've helped I've helped people out I I've I've put people on you know I I think really like I I remember Birdman you know the first time we spoke he was like you you the first one that really kind of mixed business with interviews interviews have always been kind of a free thing in in the media world and you started paying some of your guests and it turn you've turned into real businesses and I I you know I mean like lunell you know talked about you know recently because she put this out publicly I never said anything but public comedian the comedian was like she publicly said like how I was one of the few people when when the pandemic hit and she was [ __ ] up because she couldn't tour I was one of the few people that helped her out financially to make sure she was okay you know what I'm saying like like I've put I've easily put millions of dollars in people's pockets you know for just you know like the Tony Yos of the world found new careers of just doing interviews right you know what I mean like actually supporting part of their lifestyle through just beating up and talking talking [ __ ] with people like you know what I'm saying so man I'm I'm I'm good with that it's it's it's been a a 16year run at this point like God damn make some [Applause] no if it all if it all ends after drink Champs like it it was a hell of a [ __ ] run man it was I've done a lot I've done more than I ever thought I would do let's talk about Dame Dash okay here we go it felt like you guys had a relationship yes it felt like and then it just went all downhill all downhill I can't understand I I swear to God like you say do research I've literally tried to understand where this started at can't not find it I mean maybe because you guys are two honorable guys and I don't know you tell me you tell me where this went wrong so let me just start out with this all of us admire Dame Dash all of us yeah what he pulled off as onethird of Rockefeller and the Epic Heights of this and damn I know you're going to watch this so you know listen to what I'm saying right now everyone loved Dame and what he represented in his bravado and his the way he approached things and everything else like that we all loved it so when I had a chance to interview Dame I was excited and I did an interview with Dame it went well he was in LA hey can you come down and do an interview on my platform he had like this rental house in Malibu cool went down did an interview cool so she went to him his house went to his house okay then I invited him to my personal house in Calabasas at the time he came over he chopped it up he invited me to his house so this is two interviews or this three no these AR these aren't interviews anymore we're just hanging out there was two interviews and then he come to hang out and just hang out and talk School smoke at my house we're building a relationship you know then I go I go to his house and we're talking and he was like yeah I want you to be president of of my company I'll give you 20% or so I'm like I'm good Dame I'm I got my own [ __ ] you know and Dame at that time is like kind of like sort of sneak dissing he's like saying my sneakers are fake and you know kind of like little little sideway [ __ ] and you know I'm running a sneaker site like come on like I'm not wearing fake sneakers he just doesn't know sneakers you know I mean he just didn't know what he was talking about that case but he's you know he's he's making little snide comments about my content stuff like that cool whatever um he was like I was like yo uh why don't we and me and you actually did this at one point I'm like hey when you some of the content you're creating why don't you um um let us run it on our Channel and we'll split the profit with you mean you did that for a short time I remember at one point you know cuz we already have the the followers whatever you know I mean we have the deal with complex he was like well no why would I do that why don't you just set me you know get introduce me to complex so I can get a deal over there right cool introduce him the president of complex you know what I'm saying Noah at the time nah n it was I don't want to say his name accompl you know I don't want to put him on blast um so then we we kind of you know the relationship was kind of going whatever I asked him hey you know like like Jay Jay did something and um I said hey do you want to comment on this you do you want to interview to comment on on this this thing with Jay because we all know that he talks about Jay a lot it just is what it is to to this day like yo why would I comment on what another man does all right cool then like three days later he does an interview commenting about Jay you know and I hit him like yo I exact subject exact same thing that I said he want to do but whatever I hit him like Hey why would you um I thought you said you didn't want to comment on it and then it started sort of like a bad exchange because what he he felt like you thought that he was obligated to you well he wasn't obligated to me but it's like why would you tell me you don't want to talk about it just to talk about himself it doesn't it doesn't make sense to me you know I mean just as someone who I'm building a relationship just explain it to me okay either you don't want to talk about it or you say he could just no I just want to talk about it on my own platform all right cool no problem but saying I don't want talk about than you're talking about so it was just a weird weird exchange and it it got to the point where it like the exchange started to kind of go bad like you know now now we're kind of starting to talk [ __ ] to each other and I'm like all right cool this is to each other to well we're texting back and forth the conversation's getting a little aggressive on both sides right but I'm like all right whatever it is what it is Dame likes to call everyone chatty Patty or culture vulture or culture vulture okay so he started with Chatty Patty with you no it wasn't no no no I'm just saying in general right I'm not saying he's calling me a Chatty Patty in the text not yet I'm just saying as a whole he calls people chatty patties he calls people culture vulture okay right yes me and him had this private exchange Dame decides to make a video about our conversation no talk about what dissing me in the video and and talking [ __ ] about me over this a private conversation what what yeah but he made a video talking about our conversation and our falling out but but I but I'm the Chatty Patty but he's he's the one that made this whole thing public when I felt that it just could have been worked out privately between the two of us I'm not saying anything publicly about it like this is you've been to my house I've been to your house like why are you suddenly making videos about me when I thought we had a private relationship you know and then on top of that remember I told her I set them up with complex yes Dame doesn't understand how video business works you know they he puts these videos out they're getting whatever 500,000 views he gets a check from complex that's not very big so he starts dissing the president that I introduced him to publicly okay this is the man that I made most of my wealth with all right so at that point I was done I said I'm I'm done there's no away yeah and it was like [ __ ] Dame after that you know what I mean he like [ __ ] me [ __ ] you too you know and and it was it's in the back and forth ever since right you know what I mean once again not that deep right not that deep we don't even work with complex anymore it's whatever but like the the reality is is that what I saw with him character-wise just just didn't rub me the right way you know what I mean and um you know I just was like this ain't the type of person I could do business with and that's that and Dame is someone that I really looked forward to doing business with and having on my show because his his personality is is he has a dope personality and he says a lot of interesting things you know I mean I think he could really have a real you know a real strong fan base and anything like that but based on our interactions business-wise it just didn't work and when you get to a certain level of business you work with the people you like to work with so so let me ask you right uh he critiqued me and he said that I had Leo cones on here yeah I had Leo con also on my show and I didn't ask Leo cones about him I didn't either I didn't need yeah why would I I I feel like imor talked about this afterwards I'm like and I asked leor this I said are you the most powerful person in music right now and of course he's going to deny it but he's the the global head of YouTube music which is YouTube music Global the not the American head not the North American head not the Northern Hemisphere head the global head of YouTube music and YouTube is the biggest music platform on the planet it's bigger than Spotify it's bigger than Spotify Tick Tock Amazon Apple whatever the [ __ ] else new platform comes on you put them all together they're not going to add up to YouTube and my thing was like I you know when I told you about the life story pieces I have this very important person I'm going to talk about Dame Dash dissing him like I'm not going to spend my time asking that there's more important [ __ ] to talk about you know like how he became the first hip-hop president of a major label the first before him it's never been done before who leor yeah you know that yeah once Def Jam became you know that conglomerate he was head of that conglomerate people people downplays but you do say you like to push the envelope so would you afford that same respect to somebody else like what you did to Tyson would have been the same thing if you would have asked leor about Dane well I mean I had a limited amount of time with d you know what I'm saying I I had a very amount of time I'm sorry my bad Le yeah I had a very limited town with leor you know if you watch that interview it's very short not my usual 2hour so you know sorry there was I didn't really get to get into the Rockefeller story okay and and and quite honestly you know he actually gave Leo props in that interview and I was like what Leo gave Dame props or leor gave Dame props in that interview I was like what was it like to to help create you know under Def Jam these so these Mega stars like Rockefeller and you know what I mean and the DMs you know Rough Riders and so forth and he was like Hey that they would have been Superstars regardless you know these guys were Ultra talented and I was just there you know you know what I'm saying and and you know had I had more time I would have gotten into it maybe I would have touched on it like somewhat but you know I was focusing on the important [ __ ] in that piece and I just felt like Le or dissing him wasn't that important and you know you I guess made a similar Choice yeah I did yes I you know yeah I know I got shots right here well I understand I pick and shoes sometimes man none of us are perfect yeah our the principles are always going to have a little bit of sliding room you know what I mean to a certain degree about certain things not not everything you know what I mean like there's certain unexcusable but like you know you're going to in your job you're going to shift a little bit here and there that's just life that's just business that's just [ __ ] life so now let me ask you the million dollar question I always see you a my son why I don't see you with my son no more life goes on man life goes on and uh you know people drift apart right and it just is what it is I have no animosity towards him and I haven't seen him in or talked to him in about three years and you know life goes on man sometimes people are in your life for a certain amount of time if you don't want to talk about it you don't have to talk about it what was the um n on what is it called I'm I'm just going to skip this the straw that BR back I'm I'm just going to skip this but but I can tell you that that um that that neither one of us are are you know most of us are happy with the decision neither one of us are trying to connect with the other and and we're all living our lives and it's not a it's not like a oneway or you know anything else like that man uh it's all good yeah H yeah hell yeah what's with the drum set behind the interviews it's not um it's really not an like a significance of it is just that the studio that we started using in La just happened to have a drum set there already like death back and you just feel like you don't want to ever change it I mean you know it's the same Studio it's the same drum set but then when we built our studio in New York it's like oh okay like people know us for the drum set so we actually create our own drum set in New York so when you see like the academics interviews or the you know I'm trying to think just the New York just the New York Centric interviews like the you know the 1090 Jake interviews and so forth the math hafa interviews you'll see a different drum set but that that's our New York studio right but you know but you feel people are just visually they're used to it so yeah it's just you know so just keep the drum set man you know so it's one of these like happy accidents right right if it's working why why change it yeah exactly okay so one of the very first times by the way you're my friend I know you I I've did 15 million thousand vad interviews but one of the first times I feel like people like zeroed in on you was like it's because of AR app okay why do you feel like people zero in on you for that even though you I mean when something terrible happens to a person like they get what 30 years in prison that's what you got yeah it's some it's some hideous number wow it's it's a like a 30 or 40 years it's it's a hideous number when something catastrophic happens to somebody people look at everything that's out there and they jump to the conclusions okay well that was because because of this m you know like you know I interviewed uh Dion Dawkins yesterday the the the the captain of um the Buffalo Bills and uh we talked about the dear Hamlin Cardiac Arrest that happened last year remember the he had the cardiac he he had a heart attack right there on the field y right everyone thought he was going to die what did social media say it's because he was vaccinated right right that's all I saw vaccinated was trending number one like who who the [ __ ] knows if he was vaccinated or not right who who who know who knows this this is not public information this man had a one in a billion situation where I heard a doctor explain it if your heartbeat as going to up and you get a really strong impact as it's going in a certain direction you could have a cardiac it just just so happened that out of the the thousands and thousands and thousands of games with the tens of hundreds hundreds of thousands of players this just happened he had a cardiac arest but people be like he got vaccinated and that's why he had a heart attack and he's look he's 26 years old and he's healthy there's no other explanation for this and this is what we're going to run with and this is just what what social media does this is the nature of the Beast right so when you see Arab get 30 years and you you see interview with DJ Vlad where he's talking about his past criminal activities what he used to do you you start to try to put the pieces together and say well obviously this is why he got the 30 years you're not reading the transcripts you're not talking to him you're not talking to his lawyer you're not watching the news you're not reading articles about the case you got this Vlad TV interview with a million views and you're like well this this is the this is the connection obviously reality is Arab had a snitch who testified against who took the stand against everybody about a bunch of [ __ ] that had nothing to do with my interview he took the stand and testified against every [ __ ] person and put everyone in prison over over some really serious charges but people are going to jump to conclusions you know and then and then you get fake articles and then you get this this unknown media Outlet um who you've never heard of before writes an article that says judge thanks DJ Vlad for helping to convict AR and it shows like this white judge who's not even the judge on the case it's not the New York Times it's an outlet no one's ever heard of and suddenly I'm trending and [ __ ] is like Quest love is like retweeting it and commenting about the [ __ ] and he's got 10 million [ __ ] subscribers and he doesn't you know and then when I tell him the [ __ ] is fake and show him talking about it he blocks me like you know what I'm saying instead of taking responsibility for what he just [ __ ] did and then this just builds and then people will just jump to their conclusions and this is what you got to hold has Arab ever said that something I did with Vlad has something to do with his situation no what does he have to to lose at this point he's doing time that was my man like I really like Swiss beats called me one day and said yo I got this Philly artist named Arab that I'm [ __ ] with can you interview him Swiss beat swis beat called me a ask him you know Swiss Swiss called me out of the blue and said yo I got this guy he's really dope can you interview him I got you Swiss I interviewed him the music is dope like you know I'm I'm [ __ ] with it he's talking his [ __ ] you know and then he gets into a [ __ ] with Meek Mill and he comes to Vlad TV to then he becomes cool with Meek Mill and he comes back to talk about that and Rah R Rah like you know I'm [ __ ] with him that's my man I I I respect him I respect his music like like this is someone I [ __ ] with right and then he gets he gets to 30 years and then people blame me for it and and why do you think people blame you because they see interviews about these types of situations right I I go deep into people's stories right you know like like the life story includes all the lumps and the warts and the scabs and the scars you know and the gunshot wounds the knife shot wound knife wounds and all that [ __ ] man like it's some real [ __ ] that we talk about I will ask the questions that other people won't ask so you know and and we'll we'll talk about that [ __ ] but but this is you know but this is [ __ ] that I'm careful about about statues of limitations and [ __ ] that you're not actively doing like I'm not asking what you're doing right now right I I bought a kilo cocaine you know back in the 90s I've talked about that [ __ ] it's past the statute of limitations yeah it's it's 2024 yeah it's 24 years you know longer than that yeah yeah exactly longer than that it's like 27 28 years like you know what I mean listen I I know I could talk I've earned the right to talk about the dude that ripped me off for the kilo cocaine and I spent the 177,000 I'm I'm allowed to monetize that and put that out there and let people know that's part of my story and everyone who sits down is is allowed to do in the same manner you know someone who did their prison time is allowed to to talk about why they did their prison time they earned that right with the most valuable thing in their life which is their time so let me ask you uh uh um what was the first time where you got scrutinized because of that was it Arab was it like cuz I I watched Adam 22 uhhuh right and I'm looking at Adam 22 they're like oh you want some Vlad TV [ __ ] that's what they tell Adam and I'm sitting back like godamn Cat Williams told that to wiie D when they just did the interview like okay vad he said that he said that he said that too Willie yeah get out of here so cuz you've been scrutinized with this like if if you go to Vlad you're going to jail right at some point or you're telling on yourself or you telling on yourself I mean apart from the Kei situation I've never heard of that actually happening right just just to keep it 100 right like I've never heard of our stuff actually being used an interview being used against someone in a case that they actually talked about and my and in in my rationale for for the keyd interview was that he wrote a [ __ ] book right okay like you wrote a book this is I I I didn't I didn't find you living in Iowa somewhere and put you on you know run up on you as you're going to your job and and have you blurred out a bunch of sh on just solve the crime let's just give you some it is what it is some [ __ ] you know outside the Kei I've never I've never heard that happening because i' I've always been very careful and I've always you know like I've never asked a person what type of crimes anything illegal they're doing right now or within a certain amount of time that it can actually come come back and bite them I I'll never talk to someone about a a murder unless of course they wrote a book about the murder you know what I mean but but but an unsolved murder yeah do I know murders I'm sure I do I'm sure I do but not on camera or off camera would I ever ask them about it because there's no satal limitations behind that right as you could see with Kefi D 30 years later wow you know so so it's just one of those things man um but but I was the only one that would ask these type of questions to begin with everyone else like like dou XL wasn't doing that [ __ ] Master Flex wasn't doing that sway was not doing that Angie Martinez was not doing that big boy was not doing that that's my man that's my neighbor I love him but he wasn't doing these type of interviews and he knows it um Ralph McDaniels wasn't doing it Ed Lover wasn't doing it f Five Freddy wasn't doing it big vau wasn't doing it from the bay like I I can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on I was the one that said yo I'm gonna do these type of interviews and I'm going to do it in the hip-hop space and I'm going to do it in the sports space I'm going to do it in the crime space I'm going to do it in the movie space if it's if it's applicable now if I'm talking to John B I can't really ask him about the grimy [ __ ] he did because he's never really done any grimy [ __ ] he grew up in a middle class background and he started singing he hooked up with a baby face and you know he has some hit records the like I I can't ask someone about some [ __ ] that don't have nothing to do with them but I was the one that I felt had had the the guts to ask those uncomfortable questions because you don't know what the [ __ ] going to happen person can walk out person can get angry you know you and that's and that got that comes with the art of an interview like I heard someone say like yo glad you don't do [ __ ] all you do is talk to people anybody could do that so so it's not true you take you go sit down in front of a stranger for two hours and create a exciting piece of content in real time with no doovers with no b-roll with no cut let's try it again like you do that I've seen people do that and 15 minutes later they don't know what to do like the interview's over they don't know like like to be able to maneuver you could ask anyone anything the most uncomfortable private question you could ask them if you know the craft of how to ease into that question right it's it's a craft you can't learn it in school you can't have someone pull you aside and tell you how to do it it's practice this is me yes roughly 18 years of of doing this for a living like figuring out how to ease into a question and actually getting an answer and getting an honest answer and getting a sincere answer and sometimes having the person cry like like earlier today with with Trick Daddy you know what I'm saying to have to have a person burst into tears that you you you've hit you've hit them so hard almost like a therapy session in a way it is you know what I'm saying and nobody else was doing that yeah and and now you see a lot of people doing that y there's a lot of people that looked at what I was doing said okay well I guess you can this isn't a taboo subject maybe I could do this to a certain degree I see a lot of people that have you know used bits and pieces of what I do and created dope [ __ ] out of it and that's what we're supposed to do we're supposed to there're supposed to be like a baby drink champ somewhere where someone hey yeah you know we're going to get some liquor of those you know yeah like you know what I'm saying I'm not aware everywhere yeah that's what I'm saying I'm sure of it I'm sure there's baby flat flat tvs out there there's plenty of black there's plenty of them and that's cool that's what we're supposed to do as long as tricking people to watching the [ __ ] like you know it's regret putting the numbers up like you know how like Netflix don't put the numbers up they show you this is the number one interview because by you putting the numbers up somebody thought they owed you or you owe them I mean that's always going to be the case right meaning meaning that like whether there's money changing hands or not when you sit down and do something like this it's a business deal yes right I understand that I'm going to come here and give you the most valuable thing that I own my time for as long as you want thank you and you could ask me you know yes there are a few stipulations we talked about but in general you can ask me whatever you want and you going to take this and you going to monetize it and you going to make money off that and I understand that yeah and I'm doing it for my own personal reasons you know what I'm saying and whatever our Arrangement is is our Arrangement maybe I'm getting a million dollars to do this interview maybe I'm doing it because I want the publicity you know maybe I'm doing it because of our relationship you know I mean maybe at one point I might call you and I ask to do my platform there it's a deal some sort whether spoken or unspoken but coming into it everyone pretty much understands you know what I'm saying I understand like whatever you make you make right but what happens sometimes and especially if a person isn't where they want to be they'll be like all right well this video really made a lot for you why don't you break me off to my other artist talk to you whoever I've had this conversation with people people you know what I mean like I'll bring one up like like Riff Raff right riffraff like I I I gave riffraff one of his early interviews Diplo call me up you know how we get these phone calls you know what I mean Diplo Vlad you know me I was rocking with Diplo at the time and you know whatever else he's like yo I just I just signed this artist named Riff Raff can you get him on your show okay checked him out okay this dude's ENT in you know what I mean like called him up you know gives you his number you call yeah he he connected us I hit him up he's in New York we do the interview it's actually kind of dope he has this crazy personality we take him shopping I take him to the Gucci store and buy him some [ __ ] on camera and you know it's it does well it gets a whole bunch of views um I think we do another interview and then for like I don't know like seven eight years we don't do anything you know what I mean we reached out a couple times we're supposed to do some [ __ ] he cancels last minute whatever life goes on whatever we do this interview and he hits me up after the fact and was like yo I've been hearing that you pay for you know you know like oh people like booy you know I heard they be getting a bag or whatever else uh you know you need to pay me grand for That interview like I'm not not going to give you five grand for didn't even do well you know I mean the energy was all interview was out and intervie already out right it's already out it didn't do well it did relatively low numbers because he was just like really kind of wasn't the same riff ra he was sort of like a little depressed and kind of more guarded and you know life had happened and whatever happened whatever happened wasn't a very interesting interview and and the numb showed it he's like yo I want like five grand I'm like my man like if we had had a conversation about this ahead of time there there might have been a compensation but we never had that conversation all right we'll take my [ __ ] down then I'm not taking [ __ ] down right [ __ ] that right came in you signed release forms we spent our money I did my [ __ ] job you you you you got your promotion whatever else and it's like that type of [ __ ] happens people start counting your money and people start to feel like they're entitled to certain type of things and stuff like that but but that's not the agreement you know if this interview got 50 million views if this became the new Cat Williams interview I know it won't but I'm saying if it did yeah I'm not going to call you and ask you for a check right I can guarantee you that 100% no but when was it that moment where you realized that holy [ __ ] I have to like kind of like monetize this whole situation meaning what like like meaning like from the beginning he was like from the beginning you knew once you interview somebody you need you you you you needed all right look so okay before Vlad TV was DVDs right like I told you yeah you said it ear we would interview I would interview people out get unreleased music videos I do other wild [ __ ] you know and try to compete with smacks of the world and the fendy of the world and and so forth I'd be putting out the DVDs but DVDs are going away and and I'd have to put out more DVDs every the next month to try to make the money that the same money that I did the previous month and and it's you know I has gone through this [ __ ] with mixtape so it's really [ __ ] frustrating and you know I'm struggling financially and then YouTube came around and I'm like yo you mean to tell me that I could put out I could shoot the same content that I'm doing on DVDs I could put it out on YouTube and when other sites and if the content is intriguing enough and you have the blogs and now rights and the on-sites and the complexes and the world stars and anything else like that you mean to tell me that if they then embed this video and do an article about it then I will get their views I will monetize through their fan base ding like like the lifeball went off I stopped DJing I I love DJing clubs like I did tours in Australia in Europe in the Middle East in Japan like I I was I'm not going to say I was you know Kid Capri or anything else like that but I was you know touring around and doing my thing you know I love you do you DJ doll no not at all you of course DJ so you understand the thrill of DJing and and and it's a drug right I had to go cold turkey and put that drug aside no more DJing no more mixtapes uh whatever hustling [ __ ] I was doing on the side had to be put aside it was like yo this is start the blog what's that to start the blog to start to start the YouTube channel the YouTube the YouTube channel YouTube channel who the [ __ ] tells you that who who well YouTube introduced his partner program in 2008 before then it was just like a it was like Tik Tok where just freefor all you put up [ __ ] and you get some views whatever said partner program partner program monetized yeah so 2008 it turned into a real business okay and you get paid off of the views me they run ads through the YouTube channel okay and and the more views the more ads the more Revenue you're paying with your eyeballs like leor likes to say um your complex thing had nothing to do with your YouTube AG or did it long story I I don't want to comment on that right but um I I saw the vision of it I'm like this is what I've been trying to do with the DVD [ __ ] but this is what I've been waiting for technologically to be able to put it out and have it be and monetize it forever right and be able to grow it and you understand the snowball effect of okay and every day I'm going to drop a new clip and then the old clip compound interest it's compound interest exactly exactly compound interest or a snowball as Warren Buffett like to say um I I I just saw the vision of it all I'm like okay and this is how I'm going to build a catalog and and so forth and then and then over time okay and then I could have as opposed to finding a new person to interview every week I could have the regular guest to come in like the you know basically what like the news stations do The pundits to come in and talk about current events you know what I mean which is which is what all the big dogs do these personalities got to be real personalities got to be real personalities this is why booy is a real personality he's a real personality Tonyo is a real personality TK Kirkland is a real personality well let me give all three of those people they're real people yeah booy Tonyo and TK Curt they're real people yes so all right continue and then you know you build the business from there man you build it out you build it out you realize it can't just be you you got to reinvest the money and so forth but it was always like you know all the years been building up to what YouTube uh the opportunity that I saw on YouTube up to that point you know kind of like how Ray Croc like found McDonald's later in life he knew okay he had been trying to sell milkshake machines and he knew the overall business but when he saw McDonald's he knew like okay like this is this is what I've been waiting for and this is why I'm going to utilize all my skill sets you know what I mean cuz all the years of being a DJ and forming the relationship with people and you know me and you knew you know kind of ran in we didn't know each other but we had run into each other during my DVD days you I think you were on some of my DVDs yeah exactly you know what I'm saying so it's like it's easier to talk to you cuz I've already met you before you know me probably from my mixtapes and everything I've been doing for all those years right for so from 2002 to 2008 for 6 years I I was trying to find my way right full-time right and and that that's it was always it was like all right like I was 3 4 at the time like yo like it's it's time to be serious like I'm I'm not going to be the 50-year-old DJ still trying to get gigs and depending on that [ __ ] because it's a hard [ __ ] life and shout out to all the DJs that are going through this right now because it's hard I've been there you know what I mean like there's no loyalty in this [ __ ] they'll they'll get a new DJ for a third of the price to do the same [ __ ] [ __ ] you're doing and not give a [ __ ] you know um or they'll get a [ __ ] model an Instagram model to go DJ pay her 10 times the amount right is that why you don't DJ no more huh cuz the Instagram I mean I just I never I was the transition to digital I didn't it didn't I didn't adapt too well to it I was heavy on the vinyl and that to me was like a culture in its own I used to take all my records to the club which was bad on my back and my backs that's a chiropractic Bill along that yeah so yeah didn't back com back I want to give you the opportunity cuz you said something that I feel like you might rephrase it okay you said that you feel that your impact Is Bigger Than The Source magazine and double XL I didn't say that you said something like that no no no no what what what I said listen cuz I know what you mean you mean in terms of like technology now right right my reach that's what I'm saying my impact now in 2024 which is under deniable right now did the source make a massive impact and what they meant culturally and what they meant culturally at the time and and what five mics meant right and what unsigned height met and them just really being the only you know the Bible of Hip Hop and anything else like that would I ever deny the the importance to that of course not that's stupid XL and double XL like they they took the torch yep and they really kind of eclipsed the source and you know as the source really kind of went down the tubes double XL became the important voice media voice in hip-hop right like that's where Jay-Z I think the first double XL cover was Jay-Z I'm not sure I bought it at Barnes & Noble I'd buy every issue right like I'm not just speaking out my ass like just saying like oh who who are those guys I never heard of no no no no I I know exactly who they are but but what I'm saying is is that in 2024 if you ask a 100,000 people who are hip-hop fans on any level have you seen something recently from Vlad TV The Source or double XL 100% I know what you mean and you know what you mean 90% of the people would say Vlad TV in 20 but someone else might not understand exactly what you mean and think of it as Blasphemous the way you said it so I just want it's cool like like they all came before me Ralph Ralph McDaniels came before me Ed and Dre came before me um faat Five Freddy came before me they're all legends they're all people I brought to my platform and because without a lot of they wouldn't be here today I'm supposed to interview Elliot Wilson right I've interviewed Dave may and benino like like like I mean really like like i' I've shown homage to all these guys you know like I said me and ellot spoke recently we just haven't gotten around to it yet but all these guys guys I'm talking about I have brought on my platform and gave them their flowers and anything else like that right you know what I'm saying so so I'm I'm not downplaying their contribution but it's not their time right now right right right it's not it's not their time right now the their time has passed for sure and and you know can they bring something out of the ashes who knows but it didn't it hasn't happened in the last 10 15 years right is is all I'm saying right and and they should you know ozone magazine another one yes in the Beverly in the South they were they were innovators and and they could be bigger than Vlad TV and drink Champs right now easy yeah but but they didn't she she fumbled the ball go um your whole thoughts I ain't going to lie your whole [ __ ] is in your face everybody you you are thinking about madit um to me and and this is an example of the of that right here as as we're speaking I've I've always felt like we we will win by [ __ ] with each other by all of us in this space in this hip-hop media space Sports media space everything else like that if we all [ __ ] with each other you mean that in a positive way negative [ __ ] with we [ __ ] with each other like you yo we share resources I can call you up when I have a question you know I put you on when there's an opportunity there someone I want to talk to someone you want to talk to I I've been doing this longer than on the YouTube space longer than anybody so there are certain insights I have Willie called me and asked me a few YouTube questions I I I'm like yo let on the weekend let's work on it and let me see what I can figure out based on what I see you know I mean we should all work together and [ __ ] with each other and I've seen time and time again how everyone wins and when the New Media guys show up like the academics like the Adam 22 like the Sean cotton you know like like all these guys I reach out to and I embrace like the math hafas when he started doing media and and I go on their show my brother math out yeah yeah man I go on their show when they ask me and I asked them to come on my show and they you know and then if there's deals in the works we all [ __ ] with each other and it really is disappointing when I see people in my space just try to beef with me and I think about all the opportunities that we're both losing y by being that way right and and and you know us not speaking with each other I'm like is disappointing like I know I know that that I could benefit from just having an open line of communication with Nori he could benefit from having an open communication with me you know what I mean like like just just the other day they hit me up Stephen A Smith's people hit me up like yo we want to use um part of your John Sally interview on our show you mean first take no no no no not first take our YouTube channel which which is not very big you know the clips are getting a few thousand views I'm like all right we'll have Stephen call me I would like to have him on my show but you know I'm not saying I'm demanding it but you know have them call me we'll set up a line of communication and you can use my footage I'm cool with that you know that's that's that'll be our barter and you know let's talk and there's certain things you trying to push or I'm trying to push whatever and then if it makes sense for us to do [ __ ] with each other cool they chose not to do that so I chose not to let them use my footage and these are the disappointing moments for me in my space cuz it's like we're all we're all doing this and we and and we miss opportunities so when I see other media Outlets that hate on me whatever it's just like it it hurts me and I know and it's hurting them at the same time and it's it's just overall just like a disappointment which is why I've always felt like like let me just find the opportunity to reach back out to Nori and and and open up the line of communication it took about a year for us to get to this point you know I me you gave me one of my best compliments ever man I'm be honest me and you were really really really really close and and by the way I feel still feel like we were really close I feel like we didn't miss nothing right like me me personally me personally CU we weren't actively beefing with each other we didn't we got nothing to beef about you said a few things but you said to me you said to me you said to me one day said to me yo what y'all doing you did more than a magazine did in five years in one year and and that was one of the most best compliments I ever had I don't want to say who cuz I don't know if you have relation but I was like oh [ __ ] and then when what happened was this what this is what I think happened and you you correct me if I'm wrong me and you had CBS and then Vlad said yo hook me up with with CBS right and I said yo efn has a relationship because and and and I said this because I didn't want to have a relationship with anybody in CBS because I want he didn't want to sign the contract I had to go they're looking at me so I was like but I had to sign it opin just heit me out in my opinion he's looking like you're my friend why are you sending me the EF heit me out hit why are you sending me the efn and what I'm trying to tell you is Vlad I'm on a robbery Mission but I can't say I can't say it because I'm like yo just let efn cuz efn is dealing right with CBS yeah we did that deal through crazy Hood yeah through crazy Hood I got nothing kind of to deal with it but Vlad is my friend so he's like well but just to be clear not cuz I wanted to cuz you didn't want to get involved yeah and I had tax problems sir I'm just saying be like d so I couldn't technically be on paper I had to let right you know I don't know I don't I mean you didn't have to explain it we just did what we did so when blad hit me and I was like damn can you go through efn he's like yo you my friend right I could tell I could tell you like yo you're my friend why would I go through efn and I was just like I couldn't explain to you at the time like I'm going going through tax problems going through all this and efn is running the ship so you probably thought my man who yeah no I remember this whole incident yeah and and uh listen I I have OCD so I get overly focused on [ __ ] that I need to just let go sometimes right so I I get overly focused on one particular thing thinking this might potentially be a business opportunity and I sometimes overdo it with people and come on too heavy he followed up with me but that kind of came and went really it was the argument over me drinking on drink Champs that escalated yeah that was the last part that was the last part that the last part me and you talk became cool after that we got over that and then and then I asked you I was like yo black come on he was like but do we really got to drink and I was like Vlad come on man you going you okay like like just so you know Vlad man I'mma Be honest and we'll we we'll address everything else but we appreciate what you bring to the game what you br to the game how you added on to the game and I understand that there's a lot of people who okay you addressed it earlier cuz you're white so people people think oh you didn't add on to the culture no this that's that's a certain sector of people right drink Champs is not there I know that I've always know Champs look I don't know if you know we didn't set this up but this every nationality here we are the United Nations and let me tell you something Vlad as a person that I miss as a person that I friend my family I missed you bro yeah and I want you to know that that the same way you gave me your platform I want you to know that this is your platform brother you understand hey man listen I I always wanted to do this you know and and our our back and forth was was dumb mhm you know I mean cuz it was like I I'll do it but I'm not going to drink it's like well that's the aesthetic like I ain't going to do it like well puffy got more money than you he drank and I'm like why are we talking about money like oh you you rich now you don't feel you got to give back and the conversation is getting dumber and dumber and it's like all right [ __ ] this you know it's just like it's like two 5y- olds like you know I mean yeah it's immaturity it's immaturity and as I'm explaining this to someone else and I'm saying this out loud and I'm realizing how stupid I sound as I'm explaining this as a grown man to another grown man I I give a [ __ ] call I got to reach out Reach Out apologize and you know if he's ready to talk then he'll be ready you got to sit you got to sitp it doesn't count if you don't see count okay yes yes come on let me apologize for my part he just man he's asking me to be on the show you know what I'm saying and by the way you and you've been on my show so the answer has always been yes but you know it's it's like let me apologize on my behalf and it took about a year to get to this point you know what I'm saying cuz I don't think you're ready to get on the phone at that point I'm like all right cool you know I congratulated you again recently then we got on FaceTime and boom we posted the picture publicly and yeah I said next time Miami God damn it I'm going to be here I'm going to be here but honestly you know our show is really about giving people their flowers and I'm going to be honest you're one of the like the very first people I wanted to get flowers because you know um I always talk about this um when I was in hip-hop Purgatory Purgatory lot of people don't know what Purgatory is Purgatory is in between yeah and in any between that time I did Vlad TV TV repeatedly yeah facts and it did numbers and one of the biggest let let address this [ __ ] one of the biggest for me not I don't know for your platform is when I talked about walking through those doors Illuminati here oh my God I can't open up my phone without somebody saying no might have walk through the doors again do do you do do people ask you do you walk through those doors uh yeah sometimes M sometimes like people think I'm you know like people think I'm paid to do push certain agendas and like you know like I got a booster shot recently like a vaccine booster shot you know and I felt it was important you know cuz I've seen people around me get Co and get really sick so I'm all right let me get a booster and I I I I posted kind of my you know for 3 Days how I was feeling cuz you know there's a little bit of soreness and stuff like that and people think I'm being paid by fizer to to do this [ __ ] Dr fousy yeah or or Fouch paying me or madna or whatever else man or I I'm I'm being paid by Israel for my views or or somehow there's someone in my pocket I'm an agent of chaos you know that you know know that type of thing I'm a cop I'm a Fed um yeah man it it it just it comes to the territory everyone it's always it's always interesting to me when I bring on a new guest one who have an opinionated one and seeing the hate that they get right cuz everyone has their own version of hate you know like when I brought up you know Jason from Hollywood unlocked he was on my show I got to see all the gay ha right I'm like oh [ __ ] like there's really some really homophobic people out here that are willing to right call him the f word and really hate this dude like you know or DL hugle has his army of haters it's like I thought everyone loves DL hugi like you know but everyone has their army of haters right and it just comes when you have when you're affecting millions of people it just comes that's part of the package it's the army of haters that come with your fans right you got your haters regardless of what people think there's never been a single in time in life that someone said I've recorded them without them knowing I've had my phone calls recorded with people and put out on some [ __ ] [ __ ] right but I've never you know what I mean like if I record like let's say interview like you know when R Kelly in jail like I'll be like I'll press the button beep it'll say this phone call being recorded I'll say Okay so we're recording this phone call they like ah cool so if anyone ever says anything be like all right here you go like we're we're recording you're wearing a mic this is all on the up and up you know exactly what's going to happen once the cameras turn on and and that's important in this business not to think that you're you're sneaking people or or whatever else you have to have a certain level of Integrity you know when when Las Vegas PD they called me like a dozen times asking me for the raw footage for that Kei interview I always said no okay you got to calm down okay after the first interview or the second interview they wanted all the footage okay well he got arrested after the second interview not after second interview yeah well I mean like months after the second so how does your phone ring is does it say 73 what is it what is Las Vegas ero that's Las Vegas 732 no that that's Jersey um could they subpoena the footage from him I don't think so so so the they're calling it's Las Vegas they're leaving voicemails hey this is detective so and so from Las Vegas FD please give me a call not saying what it's for I'm like I know what they kind of mad at you cuz you solved their case yeah you know Mak Sol U so they're they're calling and then they start leaving the voicemail saying what they want which is the raw footage they start sending me emails and I'm like I I'm not cooperating with this [ __ ] okay let me ask you are you o obligated to give a ra for this not no they could try to get a subpoena but then but then well it's not even a jurisdiction thing um it's it's just you have a freedom of the press situation right but there's been cases like the feds have tried to the feds have tried to get my footage in the past and have failed wow yeah wow legally they Legally Legally this is fire like wasn't didn't they come out I've talked about this uh the the Jimmy henchman situation um Jimmy Hench did an interview with me and uh weal and you know a lot of times when I do interviews I zone out I'm thinking about the next question I'm not carefully paying attention to every detail because I'm thinking about what I'm going to ask next because it's all real time it's happening especially someone over a jail phone which you have a limited situation with so we we talk about you know he he briefly touches on his case we talk about the Tupac allegations whatever whatever whatever and he explains to me how he's about to have an appeal um uh appeal trial you know cuz he's what triple life or something like that next day um you know so we put it out next day he calls me he's like hey my lawyer asked me to take it down I'm like I cool I got you cuz his lawyer seen the actual interview okay he seen the interview well he listened to it cuz it's audio right okay okay he say to take it down so I I take it down so it's over or so I think oh [ __ ] so then like six months later or something I get a call from the justice department was like yo we need this footage like nah you can't have this footage well You' already put it out so we have the right to have it like well I'm not giving it to you well we're put you on the stand well then you'll have to speak to my lawyer then then this this conversation is now over if you pulled it off they didn't have no evidence of that footage well when it comes to evidence you kind of have to get the originals right you have to get it from the source right because you could tamper [ __ ] you could play partial [ __ ] you know what I mean like you have to have she could be edited she could be cut you could play a small part of something and make her look a certain type of away but you have to submit the whole thing as evidence so when it gets played to the jury they can hear the whole thing you know but didn't didn't the Twitter files expose that the feds had a deal with Facebook to to get access to stuff I I don't know about all that all I can speak about is what I know that's what that's this is what I know this is what I know this is my my story says this is the only thing I could really tell so I I lawyered up and then they're like well we're going to uh we're going to subpoena him it's like well no because this is whatever well he put it up blah blah we found out that there was a copy floating around on Instagram like a small copy like a small lowquality copy floating around on Instagram that they had that they they were trying to but they were trying to get the original [ __ ] and ultimately they weren't able to get it they wouldn't get the um who who who's the head of the of the government um the the the head district attorney in the federal government has to sign off on [ __ ] like this and uh he wouldn't sign off on so I spent like State Attorney was it no no but it's a federal the federal the the the chief attorney whatever whatever his name was Mitchell I think was at the time and this was a very important situation because this would have set a legal precedent of how things are moving forward because then it's like if people push it up and take it down they could legally oh well look at this Vlad TV case now we could whatever you ever put up even for one second we could seize it right right cuz if you keep it to yourself you're allowed to protect your sources as a media Outlet this is this is very important this is some of the what what American society is built on in terms of freedom of the press you know you've been to places like Dubai yeah you can't say [ __ ] the government in Dubai no you cannot they'll lock you the [ __ ] up for 5 years on your Instagram on your Instagram no seriously yeah yeah seriously you will get five years I'm putting this number out there but I'm sure it's somewhere near there more it might be 10 years my my friend he he got sent us to Life For What cocaine right oh I mean I didn't want to go there uh but what's his name Fredo the the UK rapper just got five years from marijuana even though he had a marijuana card in the UK or whatever else duai said we don't give a [ __ ] about that marijuana card there a no marijuana here that's right you can't get a card for that [ __ ] here five years let's take a shot shot you know what I'm saying so so damn why my shot is way more that has to be your ice the ice it's the ice yeah that's the ice that was the ice you got to no now yeah man so so ultimately they weren't able they didn't get to sign off on the footage Jimmy goes to court and he loses his appeal and he didn't know about what I did until years later now now do me and Jimmy have a relationship no not really but but you know do me and Kefi have a relationship somewhat but not not really but but I'm going to always try to protect if you come on my show if you come on my show I will try to legally protect you to the best of my ability right you know what I'm saying Kei interviews out I can't do nothing about that [ __ ] me taking it down is not going to change nothing you know I mean that's already out there but if there's any if there's anything on my raw footage which I don't think so but let's just say there is I'm not cooperating to but at any point when key Us in um interviewing Ki he was like damn I just oh I just it wasn't really that it was like once you put that book out there it just is what it is at this point but the book I wasn't I wasn't trying to put Kei in prison I wasn't trying to help Las Vegas PD solve that case I was trying to tell the story because I remember hearing about Orlando Anderson around 2007 you know one of the one of the one of my my friends who happen to be a [ __ ] in La said yeah Orlando Anderson was the shooter and we know him and ra and then I've always you know Tupac is if not my favorite rapper no it's my favorite rapper let me just not even sh let throw it out yeah Tupac is my favor he want to saw the Mur Tupac is my favorite rapper and I wanted to put the real story out there Tupac did not is not living in Cuba uh he you know he he didn't he's not you know this rapper that kind of looks like him he's not in India somewhere you know not on Mars like he passed away and it was very sad tragic yeah and and and the most obvious thing is what actually happened you go and beat up someone who killed two people recently I just interviewed Robert lad Compton PD gang unit who was trying to you know had tried to indict Orlando Anderson on two different murders wow two people died and Orlando was right there in the mix on both of those murders this guy was willing to pull out a gun and shoot you he got that's what he did I don't care if you no matter how much I I talked to the Mob James the world jameses of the world and all the dudes who who love Tupac who who who hate Orlando and nobody said Orlando was a punk or he was a fake gangster or he wasn't about that [ __ ] Orlando was a hitter that's the [ __ ] he did he shot people and he killed people and that's how he died in the middle of a [ __ ] sh out in a tripur at a gas station over a drug deal you know over someone own him some money and and and this is what happened Tupac went and stomped out somebody who was extremely dangerous so that's that's that's what you believe Tupac demise is yeah 100% 1 million per you solved Tupac murder so you now you going to say the Tupac how it happened you saying that one man % he should not have touched Orlando absolutely not okay a absolutely not if if so so what's the story that you you know leading up to him even approaching Orlando that you know it it was it was the chain snatching right the chain snatch not not NE at the mall yeah with um go I'm drawing a blank right now smoking and drinking um the [ __ ] was his name uh can I look this up real quick just cuz cuz I feel stupid and my phone's dead someone look it up Lake Lakewood Mall it was lakeood Mall fight death row chain Lakewood mul death row chain it was a guy who got jumped for his death row chain he was the one that told p that Orlando was one of the and that's where Vegas is Trayvon Lane boom okay so so during the whole you know bad boy death row beef bunch of Southside guys who were somewhat affiliated with with with bad boy saw trayon Lane at the mall wearing a death row chain and and try to they jumped him and try to take his chain whether they took the chain or not is doesn't matter okay so we're saying these are Crips Crips Southside Crips Southside but your Southside Crips jump on Trayvon Lane who's a m pyu Who's down with death row it's part of the death row this is the one million per this is what happens I know Trayvon okay well we'll eventually do an interview okay me and him have been talking for like five years you know eventually he'll he'll do it continue probably he got you know he claimed the chain was a snatch doesn't matter he got jumped bunch of dudes try to jump on him and take his dead throw chain so after the Mike Tyson fight Trayvon Tupac Suge bury rest in peace and some other Bloods like neck bone and so forth are all in the MGM Lobby and Trayvon looks over and says that's one of the dudes that jump me and Tupac instantly makes a Beat line by himself to him that's why he you see him walking by himself punch yeah with the bace shirt on yeah makes a beline right to Orlando punch what's a be line I don't know what that mean mean he walks straight at him okay by himself okay to you even though he got a group of big monsters with him right he beat he ran straight at at Trayvon and he went straight sorry Tupac went straight at Orlando Anderson punched him and and then everyone else followed him and then they started to kick him while he was down and this footage is is publicly released so we we've all seen this a million times and then and then started the retaliation process right so you see this footage you know this footage we all know this footage yeah what the [ __ ] makes you say qpd you know we covered that earlier the [ __ ] makes you say I want to revisit this he's the only living person in the car after you read the book yeah well after the audio the Greg kading audio footage comes out he's talking about police the other three people are dead Okay Orlando gets killed in the parking lot triple triple murder shootout big Dre the the big guy the fat dude yeah has Health complications and just dies of being in bad Health there's one of God he gets killed in a random shoot out in Chief Keef's weed shot in La did you say what Chief Keef what Chief Keefe had a dispensary in LA from Chicago Chief Keef from Chicago who's living in La Chief Keef doesn't go to Chicago anymore if you notice he's he left Chicago and never came back he's been living in Calabasas and the LA area ever since so he starts a dispensary now he's working there at the counter it just happens to be a dispensary that he either partially owns or owns completely or they licenses like this who the [ __ ] knows it's a dispensary associated with Chief Keef a shootout happens and the third person dies nothing to do with Tupac or Orlando or anything that just a random a random wrong place wrong time situation uh so Kei is the last person that's actually alive that could tell the story from a first person point of view okay hello yeah here doing an interview is fantastic I'll see you later yeah go continue sir yeah so so this is the only person but you knew that this you knew that key D was this is it yeah this is it all right there's really no disputing this part this is Uncle Orlando is gone Orlando's gone he has audio of confessing it he is the actual Uncle of Orlando he WR and then he wrote a book ties it all together like you'd be very hard pressed to try to say but I got to be Advocate because they the book was out and they didn't give a [ __ ] what made you say I want to interview you again Oh you mean the second interview second interview exactly well at that point he had done a bunch of interviews so it's like it wasn't Vlad right but at that point it was just sort of a fill-in-the blank situation everything had essentially been discussed like I said I don't think anyone really cares about the second interview it's it's really about the first interview you know but it was like all right well this dude's still doing interviews you know and and and you know people have commented on you know booy's commented on him Mike Tyson's commented on him like you know what I mean like well let's see what he got to say like he he letting his nuts hang like all right let's let's have a conversation about it um I didn't think that law enforcement cared it' been CU between my first interview and the arrest it was four years okay so let me ask you where was you at when you they said they arrested qpt and did did you feel it's two part questions one where you was at and then two did you feel like oh finally no okay nah I I didn't even like you got to understand like he got arrested I'm like I I didn't really think much of it I almost thought like okay well this is just a horse and pony show they're going to get him to sign a plea deal and give him a time served and they could say that you know say that he was part of it they solve the case he's going to go on and he's an old man he's 62 years old they just want to close the case on the books and and call it a day and um it it didn't because cu the point wasn't for for him to be arrested like like I it wasn't my point to I didn't talk to Las Vegas PD or LA PD like you know I mean I'm still not talking to them so I wouldn't be talking to them then and um I didn't realize how big it is until like people like Pierce Morgan started reaching out to me and wanted me to do interviews on their plane he's like the biggest interviewer of like Europe you know and like and then like NBC News and like you know just like all these people wanted to speak to me about that when I started understanding the gravity of of what was happening but it it it's just one of those I mean I I interviewed Tupac's rape accuser Ayanna Jackson and you know she that was the first time she's ever been on video so you know it's not like I'm just gonna I'm a Tupac Super Fan and I'm just G to Advocate Advocate Advocate you know and bury everything else like n like he was like all of us man he he had his Shining Moments and he had his embarrassments you know and he had his wrong decisions he was how much dumb [ __ ] have we done in 23 you know that the world didn't get to see um you know how many bad decisions [ __ ] you know when it when it came to to women have we made that that you know ultimately just wasn't end up being a big deal that could have been you know like like Daryl strawberry he told me uh yesterday he said you could pick your sins but you can't pick your consequences that's a good one you could choose to do what you want to do you you could do all the [ __ ] up you could do the drugs and you could do the crimes and you could do the lies and the stealing you you choose what you do but you don't know what's going to happen after you do them that that's not up to you anymore it's it's not your choice that will be up to other people to to to to decide how they're going to deal with with what you've done right you know what I'm saying and and that's the that's the reality of it man that's the reality and U pissed come right back so what do you think the the next iteration or is there for you moving like 10 years ahead of now um like do you see yourself changing formats changing style it's already changing like the biggest the biggest clip of last year was the booy house tour right did you see that at all no no I didn't it it was a tour of his 88 acres State like bringing back like MTV crib style like that yeah okay I we did that was the that was the it was three and a half million views so just just that one 20 minute piece you know what I'm saying not not you could add up the pieces together it's even more than that but I'm saying just that one single piece as the biggest single piece of the year it it was that but with that came Lavar ball house tour it came DJ env's car collection um you know uh we just did Dion Dawkins house and his yacht you know what I'm saying so you discovered a whole new Lane for we did I just did one of my favorite barbecue spots you know blood SS barbecue you know where where I got to go and actually get on camera and and and you know I'm I'm like a lifetime foodie so I actually get to like and it seems that you can't do no wrong in this Lane that you're describing right now well I mean you know you you could always have [ __ ] that doesn't react you know I mean I mean in terms of people criticizing the content yeah but it's not about the criticism man it's not it's not about like I I don't do it for that like I I know for example you know I do a lot of you know I've always been a big proponent of of Stock Investing right so when I put out Clips you know I had like a Vlad stock series like a nine nine or 10p part Series where I break down uh Stock Investing and I talk about different um you know just the different things that I've used in terms of what I found to be successful and so forth and and all through the comments yo man we love you yo more content like this you're the best you know oh yo this is Transformer like I can create videos that all they have is positive comments right I it's so it's so easy to do but that's not what the business is about it's not about trying to give myself yourself a pat on the shoulder like [ __ ] that like I I know what it is I you know if a video has 90% negative comments that's fine as long as what we're doing is is important you know what I mean is in terms of what the the the strength of the content you know I mean you think think people want to hear you think all the Tupac fans and there's a lot of them you think they want to hear about aanna Jackson talking about how you know she came to see Tupac and ended up having sex with two other dudes and she was never with that and you know what I mean things went very left and Tupac was like get this [ __ ] out my face and you know what I'm saying like like Tupac fans don't want to hear this [ __ ] I know it's going to be like a bunch of negative [ __ ] but this is an important story and and that that's why like we are we are changing you know I was saying about how the biggest clip was was the the Boosy house tour uh you know that was the biggest clip of last year you know and we're doing house [ __ ] we're doing car [ __ ] we're doing restaurant [ __ ] you know I was supposed to trick Daddy's restaurant but then then then he didn't he didn't show up at the restaurant so we just didn't want to do the restaurant without him so mean what we're doing Sundays yeah Sundays exactly we ate there with the fried ribs you know but love it I I would love to do I would love to be like the Robert leech you know of uh you know of good autom mod on l c show you're you're a watch guy see you know you got the rich I mean I got a couple you got a few you know you know got the you got the p on I you know we got nice you know watch collection and we taking the picture you build you build them up build them up I had to wear something nice yes yes for drink Champs little [ __ ] [ __ ] TV make some [ __ ] hold on hold on no more shot Jamie