Eric Davis tells Congressman Berles he is aware of four alien species. It's kind of hard to hear, but let's play. Are they are they multiple species? Are they what was their size and how many usually? They're typically the multiple species people are familiar with the uh people are talking about reptilians and insecttoids. It's not that they're reptilian or insecttoid. It's that they resemble to the recipient of reptile or insect. All right. Instead of just playing the video, you can tell us. What was he saying? He's saying there's there's four different alien species that he knows of. Yeah, that was not what I was going to what I expected him to say. I I And but yeah, he he said So, who is this guy? This is Eric Davis is um has been involved in the intelligence community since the 80s, right? So, he's Yeah, for a long time. For a long time. and he's u he first worked for Bigalow Airspace and then he went on to get get work for the Pentagon and then CIA and you know basically researching um what what they describe as crashed material retrieved retrieved um crashed material and he was saying definitively they know of four alien species like he's saying they're real right now whenever I pressed him and asked him at least at least in that setting. He did he did not say that he personally has seen these, right? But the but he described the four different types of aliens, the grays, the Nordics, the insectoids, and the reptilians that are commonly referred to in the UFO community. You know what I love about this video is that the person added glowing eyes to the Nordic dude because if you didn't, it's just some blonde guy. Just some blonde dude. Yeah. And that's what I love about the the so there are people who believe that one of the alien species we encounter are these Nordics. They're like tall blonde white people and I'm just thinking like Sven is a Swedish Air Force pilot and he crash crashes one of their experimental vessels and then his as he's exiting it some farmer sees him and he's like it's an alien and he's like I'm I'm literally just Swedish Air Force and they're like the Nordic aliens from Sweden now. Come on. Like I I don't understand how people could have witnessed aliens that look just like Swedish people or Norwegians and then have decided that they were aliens. Well, if they see them on board alien craft, that would do it. No, but it's just like very tall. You know, if if I was if if I woke up and I was in some like strange hovering craft and there was just a bunch of like random white dudes with black hair, I wouldn't be like, "Aliens are white people with black hair." I'd be like, "Oh, humans have built hovercraft." Okay. Well, there are some distinctions for sure. I mean, all of these and and by the way, people who studied, researched euphology for a long time, these are precisely the four that we would expect Davis to acknowledge. But could it just be he's just saying what you want to hear? Um, I doubt that he would do that. He's a very serious individual. He and Hell put off have been in the they they've had access to projects, knowledge of projects, and been working behind the scenes with the government, various institutions, private and and um public um on this for a long time. And they're very serious scientists, both of these guys, highly credentialed. And do you do so do you believe that these four alien species are real? I would say for me personally the the first three absolutely 100% not the reptilian ones. I'm not sure about reptilians. A lot of people talk about reptilians but there's there's actually quite a lot of I would say anecdotal evidence for the existence of the grays of the Nordics and and of the insectoids or what the late David J or he's not dead yet David Jacobs Dr. David Jacobs calls insectins which are these which are like the they're sometimes referred to as the mantis beings. And these are encountered, especially the grays and the mantis beings are actually encountered quite often on board vessels, on board alien vessels. And the Nordics aren't just it's not just like you're looking at uh Scandinavian people. They they're telepathic. All communication with these things is telepathic. And I I've heard that they don't exactly look like a human. No. No. There's some subtle differences. Yeah. They they they would not just blend in to the population. No. And that's at least And I'm not saying I believe it. I'm just saying that's what I've been told. What if they're just people from the future? I I think that's an interesting thought experiment, right? That what we're experiencing or future future generations of humans who have mastered time travel and if you mastered time travel today, wouldn't you want to go back and see what was going on in in history? I would. You'd have to. I'd want to. I'd want to go back and see, you know, hey, I want to see what the pharaoh really look like. Okay. I want to see what confounds me though as someone who's not just a skeptic, but someone who just straight up doesn't believe in aliens. I If that were true, would the powers that be in the intelligence agencies really just come right out and talk about it so openly? They don't, though. Well, we just heard that. Well, this guy's former, isn't he? Well, no. I mean, you're never former intelligence. Well, I mean what's happened is is we've had two hearings now and we've had whistleblowers come forth like David Grush and they have forced the conversation into the public arena. They forced the conversation. Then you have guys like Congressman Berles and and and his colleagues who are who are fighting for disclosure. Without that battle, without that effort, you you wouldn't be hearing about any of this. You wouldn't have these guys coming forward. You wouldn't have uh Eric Davis coming forward and and making these declarations. I I would I don't necessarily wouldn't necessarily call it a declaration. He was answering your question, but this is a new environment. We're this isn't we're we're in a new space now, you know, post hearings, post UAP hearings. And so I I think 5 years ago, I would have agreed with you, but that's that's just not the case anymore. I think the reason they don't say it is because just put it this way. How would you feel if you woke up and realized you were in a rat cage your whole life and everything you knew was just some stupid rat experiment for somebody? You know, like when we when we look at rats in a cage in a lab, we like we pity them. What if what if everything you've ever done in your life, everything you hoped for, your dreams, you woke up tomorrow and you knew was completely meaningless? The the research you've done, the the religion you held, everything was just totally nonsense. So that you're living in a simulation. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well, or or like what if you know you have the rat utopia experiment. They put all the rats in a box and gave them food and water and then watched what happens and the rats had no idea. What if that's what we're in? They wouldn't want to tell you because you'd lose your mind. I think they would want to tell you. That's why I think that this is a whole alien perception. Why would they demoralize the population? It's not just demoralizing. You'd stop working. people would. I mean, if you're if you're the king of the rats in the rat experiment and you like your luxuries and your boats, you don't want the people to wake up and realize that they're rats in a box who' stop working. You want them to keep working for you. Yeah. Yeah. The you want them to continue to be non-player characters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I jokingly told Joe Rogan that uh the the reason the globalists want a one world government is because we can't join the Galactic Federation until we have a unified governing body because who was the Galactic Federation going to negotiate with Russia or the United States? It would just cause problems. And Joe responded with, "I don't think there's a Galactic Federation." I said, "Joe, I know I'm kidding." Yeah, but now I'm not kidding. The Galactic Federation won't let the Earth enter because we're a we are a pre what what what is it called? There's a term for this. There's um the degrees of civilization or whatever. Yeah. Mu kako uh talks about this type one civilization and we're like type type zero is like when your planet unifies under one governing authority. Yeah. So we're like not even there. Yeah. We're just a bunch of what definition of the type one is you use the entire the output of your entire you can manage the star that you're sur that you are orbiting sphere. Okay. Um, type two is where you can manage the power in your galaxy, I think, or no, in your solar system. And then after that, I and it goes up from there, but it basically gets to the point I think type four was where you can you can basically you transcend scale. That's what it is, the Carterv scale. Think a type one civilization is able to access all the energy available to on its planet and store it for consumption. Type two can consume a stars energy through the use of a Dyson sphere. And a type three can capture all the energy emitted by its galaxy and every object within it. Yeah, but like why would we assume a type three civilization exists? Have we witnessed ever through a telescope a galactic species? But everything's really far away. Man, you can't talk about this phenomenon though as if we're not encountering it. That's a difference. You can't say that this is just theoretical that maybe uh maybe what these whistleblowers are talking about is real. No, many many people at this point have experienced the phenomenon up close and personal, have seen craft. Uh the government has admitted at the very least that the um that some of the footage that was leaked by the New York Times back in 2017 is authentic footage and so far has not been able to debunk at least two of of those videos I think namely Gimble um and the Nimmits incident. I mean these are legitimate mysteries and this this is technology. What we're seeing is technology. I mean it's not I think all the aliens are demons. Yeah, could be. Why is that laughable? Well, everything that you're saying sounds You're asking the right person to to answer that question. Yeah, I laugh because that's the most common question that that I get personally. But but but why but they they could be just called by a different name, you know. Yeah. And I would say I would say that we have reason to believe that some of them are at the very least demonic. Well, what I mean by that is the Christian understanding of a demon which is not a physical being and can appear to be whatever they want to to deceive people. Well, the Christian understanding, the traditional Christian understanding understanding of a demon doesn't involve UFOs and technology either, but it does involve deception. It does involve deception. Certainly, yeah. I mean, that takes us down a very intricate path. The there's a difference between the western um perspective, the western Christian perspective of a demon and then if you're going to be very specific to the biblical perspective of a perspective of a demon, those are very two different things. So in the west um Christians in the west will identify anything that's scary or or grotesque or nefarious as a demon or demonic in general. Whereas in Hebrew cosmology, it's a very narrow there's a very narrow description. A demon is literally and exclusively the disembodied spirit of a dead giant. An an unclean spirit. An unclean spirit. Yeah. Within the context of the biblical narrative. So we we have a different definition. Nephilim, right? the dead spirit that remains after the crossbreed between an angel and a human and a human. Yeah. And then what is an angel? Well, I mean, are we talking within the are we talking within the context of the biblical narrative? So, so as you described the the demon as the spirit of the Nephilim, is that what it is? Yeah. And in according to Hebrew cosmology, yes, a demon is exclusively the disembodied spirit of a dead giant, the Nephilim. And so a nephilim is a angel human. A nephilim is a hybrid. It was it was the product of population between an angelic being and a human female. Then what is the angelic being in that context? Well, I would describe that angelic being as an extraterrestrial. I mean in the Bible you have um in the book of Job, we read that the sons of God, the morning stars saying they shouted for joy when the foundations of the earth were laid. So that right there we we can understand from a bib a biblical perspective that the angels pre-exist us. They they and they're not from planet earth. Their origin is not planet earth. They come from somewhere else. They are therefore technically extra terrestrial. That doesn't mean that they're they have a physical form though just because they pre-exist they I in my opinion they're purely intellectual purely spiritual beings who don't have a physical form. And therefore, how would they be capable of having relations with a human female? We're talking about angels here. Um, is is ne is Nephilim in the modern Christian Bible? Yes. Yeah. Genesis. There's a famous reference to Nephilim in Genesis 6. Specifically as hybrids in the book of Enoch. Yeah. It primarily comes from the book of Enoch. But they're specifically referenced as as hybrids between angel in the book of Enoch. How does that reconcile if Right. So in so in the book of Enoch the there's this 200 there's these 200 watchers. They're called the watchers. That reference is found in the biblical narrative as well in the book of Daniel. It's a very important reference. But in the book of Enoch there's 200 watchers and these are not earthly beings. These are heavenly beings. They're they're looking down at the earth and they are enamored of human women of the daughters of men and they they actually lust after them according to to the book of Enoch. So the what I call the first cause of the watchers transgression is lust. They're lusting after human women. And again, according to the book of Enoch, they concoct this plan that they're going to descend to the earth and they're going to marry. They're going to select a wife, each one of them, and they're going to marry these women and then they're going to populate with them and procreate through them. So all of this activity, I mean, this it wouldn't make any sense if you were just if you didn't have a body. Um I would if there was no corporal reality involved. Just to quickly mention the book of Enoch was never included in the Old Testament or the New Testament. Just to be clear because that that's something that's important to me as well. The book of Enoch is was never canonized. No. Although it was adopted into the cannons of the uh Tawahido Orthodox Correct uh church and also the um the Jewish the the ancient Jewish Orthodox um in Ethiopia. So I mean there was a lot of controversy about the book of Enoch a long time ago and it but just just to clarify in the like King James Bible it mentions Nephilim. Yes. And specific specifically as hybrids between angels and women. Yes. Genesis 6. Well it doesn't specifically say hybrids between angels and women. It talks about the sons of God that they saw that the daughters of men were fair were comely and they they married them. They took wives from among the daughters of men. And then there's a reference to the Nephilim. the the the Nephilim were in the earth in in those days with mighty men. I I just asked because Mary your view is that uh al uh angels are purely spiritual beings. Yes. How would the Bible describe angels have taking wives if they were not physical or eating with people like the what was the angel that met with Abraham? Yeah. right for a meal. And with we're just putting a very reductive and human view over something that just transcends our understanding. Well, it depends on what what what worldview you're coming from. What is your what is the framework of your perspective? And if you're framing this within a biblical context, then it becomes a theological question. And we can, you know, make references to certain things that angels do within the biblical narrative and make a theological case that angels do, in fact, have corporal reality. They have physical bodies. They do things. They lust. I mean, lust is a real problem for me personally. If you have if you have a being that's lusting but doesn't have a body, how does that work? I mean, how can you how can you feel the sexual impulse without, you know, without the equipment, so to speak? So that's why I call it the the first cause of the watchers descent of the watchers sedition what amount what amounts to sedition against the kingdom of heaven. They descend to the earth because they lust after human women and they desire to populate with him and procreate through them. But the fall of the angels was because of Satan's rebellion which originated from pride. Yeah, we're talking about two different scenarios. The watchers is actually a different event. That's something that happens in the days of Jared according to the book of Enoch. Okay. So, the descent of these 200 watchers is a is a and by the way, this why why was Enoch not included? Um, that's a that's kind of a difficult question to answer. The easy answer is because the Jews rejected the book of Enoch in in their um in their canon. And I think that the reason why the Jews rejected it was because it testified of the man they had crucified, namely Jesus of Nazareth. The book of Enoch specifically. Now, the book of Enoch is very complex. It's not just one there's it's not one singular author. It's a compilation of texts and the earliest portions of the book of Enoch were written um long before the birth of Christ, at least 300 years before the birth of Christ. But there's portions of Enoch that are dated that that have a later date that are after Christ. And so it's not a singular author. It's not a singular manuscript, but the earliest portions of the book of Enoch are fundamental, foundational to a Hebrew cosmology in the the narrative of the Watchers, which comes from the first book of Enoch, the earliest manuscript, which is the book of the Watchers, and then B even to the esquetology of the writers of the New Testament, their view of the end times, their view of of of the role of the Messiah in the end times. Much of that comes directly from the book of Enoch. So they were clearly influenced by the book of Enoch. In fact, there's a um there's verses in from the book of Enoch, from first Enoch that are literally copied and pasted verbatim in the New Testament in the book of Jude. So clearly the writers of the New Testament were conversant with Enoch and and at least considered some of it whether oral tradition or written or the written text as scripture. And that that actually was a was hotly debated. This was a a matter of great contention in the early church. Many of the church fathers believed that the book of Enoch was scripture or at least had some some value and and and others did not. And and there was a there was a battle that took place and and ultimately they decided to not include it in the cannon. Do you think then that uh like these these religious texts are actually more ancient aliens as if like aliens visited earth then procreated with people and did stuff to earth or do you believe it actually is mystical, spiritual, etc. You mean any text or are you specifically referencing the book of Enoch? Uh the Bible like Abrahamic view of religion and faith. Well, I I personally I would say that the premise of ancient astronaut theory is true. Biblically speaking, the premise that mankind has indeed been interacting with extraterrestrial beings since the beginning. I mean, the Bible would would affirm this enthusiastically. The the text of scripture affirms this. In fact, this is part of our the problem that we've had because in the beginning, we were deceived by one of these beings, namely Satan, the dragon, the devil, this this um this nefarious person that's never actually named in the Bible. Um so I think again the premise of ancient astronaut theory is true but then I would disagree with you know the the aliens having a hand in building the pyramids and things like that. Um although although I do believe personally that the the Enochian tale the narrative of first Enoch specifically from the book of the watchers the earliest portion is historically true. I personally believe that. I do believe that 200 watchers descended to the earth and and took wives from among the daughters of men, c populated with them. The women conceived and gave birth to giants. In fact, this nar this general narrative is is found all over the ancient world. I mean, there's a universal testimony. This is usually framed in the context of the golden age or or as the ancient Egyptians refer to it as zeppy the first time. And in every case, I mean, every primary ancient civilization has a legend like this. The gods descended to the earth and they were all eight feet tall or something. Well, the gods themselves, I'm not sure, but their progeny are most often described as giants. Were they green? I don't think so. There's uh because you've got the gins and the genies in the Middle East. Yeah. 8 foot tall, green, and blue. And then you've got quaotal in Central America. Yeah. And so people I've read questions about why different cultures on the other side of the planet have similar myths of similar beings. Yeah. Well, specifically when you talk about giants um and this this story in general, this the narrative that I just laid out, the gods descended, cohabited with human beings, populated with human women and progenerated a race of giants. That is ubiquitous. That is ubiquitous across every major ancient ancient civilization. Believe something like that. that general narrative. But the Hindus, they believe that. Yes, they believe that the gods I mean they they they have in the um in the Indian epics the the gods are are engaged in in in an epic war with one another using advanced technology, advanced aerospace technology which they call vimmanas. And then of course we know the the Hellenistic religions believe that was it like Zeus came down disguised as a duck or something and some lady Hercules emerged. Yeah. Yeah. It's the same basic narrative that you find in every ancient culture. Yeah. But you know the the the the hellistic religions are so weird. Like Zeus, what he like turned himself into a duck and then came down and like banged some woman. I'm not kidding. They did all kinds of stuff like that. They were they were constantly involved in the lives of men. Yeah. Well, you have to understand that myths are the myths are devised to transmit knowledge through time. So these stories are crafted swan. Sorry, not a duck. Yeah. These crafted these stories are so are so bizarre. They're intentionally crafted. this way so that they can be orally transmitted through time. And the people who transmit the myths think that they're just these well in the in the ancient times they believe them literally but when in reality they encapsulate information historical scientific information. That's what that's what myths are designed to do. They can corrupt as well and that's probably you know we call that the purple monkey dishwasher phenomenon. You mean the myths can corrupt? The just information transmitted from generation to generation corrupts can be without without hard data preserving it. Yeah, I would agree with that. And so then these stories that you're hearing, I mean one of the arguments you hear a lot from from atheists is that the Bible or actually not even from atheists but from uh Christians actually. So the interpretation the converting of language in the Bible several times back and forth has resulted in certain words not being appropriate. Like some have argued that it's not seven days, it's seven eras or seven eons or you know days was just a met was just a statement of a unit of time. You mean you mean in regard to the the creation days in Genesis? Yeah. This is one example where people say that's true that that it doesn't mean seven days. It means Yeah. There's Yeah, there's dispute about that. I mean you have young earth creationists who believe that the earth is literally 6,000 years old and then you have old earth creationists who believe that the earth is probably billions of years old. And they have a different interpretation based on the text, based on a different interpretation of the words. Imagine if you described modern technology to any like North Sentinel person, right? Showing them this uh or you know, let's just put it this way. All technology is completely wiped out, just gone. And we wake up one day and we're in the middle of the woods and we're bug naked. And you've got a newborn kid and the kid's growing up. Kid's 10 years old. You're trying to explain to this kid how life used to be. And you'd say we had these things we called screens and computers. You could literally just press buttons. This little a button. We don't have buttons anymore. I mean, how do you describe what a button is? It's a little thing that you push down. It goes in, comes out. Sending a sending information telling a machine. And on the screen, you could see anywhere in the world. What are they going to tell? What story will you get out of that? Yeah. Exactly. It's going to be a witch with a cauldron looking into a reflection of water and seeing the land of Oz. That's right. I agree. So, I think and and if we can we can take an example from the Bible. I mean, in the Bible, you have these these flying objects called the chariots of God or the chariots of Israel and they show up on several occasions and clearly these are in in my estimation, these are advanced aerospace vehicles. I mean there's somebody is piloting them and you know in the ancients thought of them as a chariot with with fiery horses or a fiery chariot chariots of fire rockets and well I mean how else how would you a chariot was the most advanced mode of of conveyance in the ancient world so they have no con they have no concept of com combustion right they have no word for plane they have no word for airplane or rocket or anything like that the only thing that flies in the sky are birds so how do you how do you describe this advanced aerospace vehicle that that that you're seeing. Well, what's the most advanced vehicle of conveyance that you have to reference? And that would be a chariot. But these chariots fly. So, if a chariot flies, why does it why does why does it, you know, last time I checked, horses don't fly, you know? So, um, obviously, I think that Iron Age people are seeing things and they're conveying them in the in the way that seems most accurate to them. And I think in in some instances, we've we've made the mistake of interpreting some of that literally. I don't believe in flying horses. I think what they were seeing was advanced aerospace vehicles. I'm confused because my my assumption from text like that is not that they're describing it in a way that's culturally relevant to them, but that it was presented to them in a way that was culturally relevant and understandable to them. So, they would see chariots because it was intended for them to see that. I see what you mean. Like the way that angels uh appeared to people is not this is in the Catholic view. It's not the way they actually look because they don't have a physical form. They appear to you in a way that communicates their nature. This way that humans can understand. This ascribes to angels metamorphic powers. They might as well be genies. And I don't believe that. I think I think they're not all that different from us. And in fact, you know, I write about this in my book, Birthright, but I think that that that we are the younger sibling in the family of God and that angels are are our our angelic elder siblings and we're not all that different. In fact, we're so alike that that that we can procreate, we can c we can breathe. Yeah. I just think all that produce offspring. Thanks for checking out this clip from Timcast IRL. Make sure to watch the show live Monday through Friday at 8:00 PM. Subscribe to this channel and we will see you all there.