You said you've ever fought, your fastest fight is 7 seconds Hahaha, yeah, true, true How is that? This person is like a little bit crazy, crazy, doesn't have the best record too Funny enough, 2 weeks before, my friend Gucci Aquaman, he's clubbing. He said you were a promoter too. Yeah, that's right. I'll try to explain.
When I was in high school, I would make people, I would have a garage under my house. Then I would have friends fight each other. They do know you, right? Yeah, I said, you fight him. They're like, who's that?
And I said, don't worry. Any signs near that you will go to the UFC? Answer this.
I just can't say too much. I just can't say when. It's not really decided yet.
I can't really say, but... Can I guess? Okay, yeah, guess. Any white condors? Weighing in 125 pounds, standing in 175 centimeters, this is the CFFC Flyweight Champion, Vila the Indo Ninja Hassa!
There's a catchphrase that goes like this. because your hair is light your heart is light do you know? no what does it mean? you better not know welcome to Indonesia how's Indonesia?
how many days have you been here? 3 days 3 days so how's it? amazing better than I expected it's been 8 years so what do you expect? good food the food is delicious the weather is super hot it's really hot I'm not used to it in Seattle the Too cold.
But now it's summer. So it's really nice. Really, really nice. You come to Seattle, we take you around wherever. You come to my gym.
So if it's summer, what's the temperature? If it's Celsius, I don't know. Fahrenheit. Fahrenheit, like 70, 75. Honestly, not too cold.
But the air, the air is super, super nice. 75 Fahrenheit. 826 Celsius. 23. Like in Bandung. Like in Bandung.
Yeah, yeah. Have you ever been to Bandung? No, but on Ribu Day. Ribu Day. Rabu Day.
Rabu. I'm sorry. How are you? Do you feel rich here? Rich?
Rich is rich. Do you feel rich? Here?
Yes. Your money is a lot, it's thousands of thousands. Oh yeah, it definitely feels a lot more. Everything is a lot more cheaper here.
A lot more cheaper. Is it good? Yeah, it's really good.
But in America, it's really expensive, bro. If you eat in the afternoon, how much do you make in America? If I eat in the afternoon, it can be 25. 20 to 25. 25 times 18, guys. Yeah, it's crazy.
5 times 8, 40. 2 times... That's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot.
That's like 400,000. 400,000. How much is that again? 400,000. Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's a lot. You ate Soto Tangkar yesterday, right? Yeah, yeah. Today.
It's 50,000. Yeah, it is. So, 25 dollars, you can eat like...
100 divided by 5. 8 portions. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
That's it, you can stay here. Yeah, I want to. When will you stay here? InsyaAllah.
I actually want to live maybe in Indonesia like 3 months out of the year. If in America, like winter, I want to come here. So what? So what do you mean? What?
Uh... Biar... Biar... Biar...
Biar... Biar... Biar... Biar...
Biar... Biar... Biar... You learn Indonesian, you figure it out by yourself.
I won't help you. Bro, you know, speaking of, I'm learning every single day. When I did the speech at Beyond, I just...
learned the word dari saudara aku gokil what does it mean uh crazy crazy gokil is goreng kikil goreng goreng fry what kikil kikil apa kikil is like a chewy part on uh What's the name? That. Nuckal Sapi. Or the knuckle of a cow.
Really? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Huh?
You don't like it? I really like it. Okay.
But after I chew it, it's hard here. Yeah, it's hard. It's stiff.
Yeah. Like being clenched. Oh.
Yeah. It's good for me then. Good for me. Gotta practice the clench. How was your Btw yesterday?
Bro. Crazy. Crazy.
Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. What do you like about Beyond 5? Man, I love the...
You guys really do the drama and the entertainment so, so well, man. I've never seen anything like it. I was entertained the whole time.
And I saw you. Man, that's what I want to ask you, man. You were entertained the whole time.
You're going crazy the whole night. At least like seven hours. So I want to ask, what's your routine? What's your routine?
How do you stay so energized, man? So every day, I pray. Okay, that's good.
I pray to my God. I say... God, give me more energy so that when I'm old, I can ask for my passport.
Passport? You said passport? The rooming hasn't turned on yet, right? Not yet. No, no, I can't...
I didn't say passport, I said... But I... That's my advantage. Do you know what's your advantage? Advantage like more?
My strength. Is more energy in me. Than anybody else.
I love it I love it that's a good mindset I definitely have ADHD oh you have for sure for sure that's why I have to wear glasses because like my eyes if I'm just talking to you my eyes are going like this going yeah so right now you think I'm looking at you I'm looking like this yeah yeah always looking yeah but but like when I'm fighting and training I love it so much I'm super super focused super Super super focused. That's what people say with people with ADHD. ADHD stands for attention deficit and hyper focus deficiency. Yeah, true. Disorder.
I was told I had ADHD but I didn't believe it. You don't believe it? I don't believe it.
I don't believe on any... I think I'm wrong in saying this. So in America, what's the promotion scene like? Like the regional promotion?
Yeah. It's kind of all the same. There's CFFC where I fight on UFC Fight Pass. And then the other big one is LFA. So CFFC is more East Coast.
And then LFA is more like West Coast. What does it stand for? Legacy Fighting Alliance.
Legacy Fighting Alliance. But it's all kind of the same. It's all under the UFC. So it's like, at least I tell people, like, you know, American football, there's NFL, and then there's like college football. So regional promotions for MMA, that's like the college.
So are they only join the UFC Fight Pass or the UFC Bot? I think the UFC bought them, is under them. So is there any signs near that you will go to the UFC?
Answer this. I cannot say too much. But inshallah this year.
It's over. Can't say too much, but this year. In what way? I just can't say too much.
I just can't say when. It's not really decided yet. I can't really say, but... Can I guess?
Okay, yeah, guess. Then what? Condolence race? I can't say anything.
I'm not saying anything. I'm not saying anything. No, no, no. Is it noche? I can't say anything.
No, I can't say anything. I can't say anything. Okay.
Is it tough? Yeah, it's tough. No, no, no, no. Tough?
So they already offered me tough. So it's already done. So it was flyweight and I believe welterweight. So they actually offered me after my six fight, after the I'm Still Kase, they offered me... that but that was they wanted me to go right after the week after fly to vegas after i just fought and then i got sick and then business-wise and negotiating wait no negotiation-wise it wasn't the best deal so we just wait so right now that's all i'm gonna say Yeah, this year.
In this second half? I can't speak. Sorry. Just say it yesterday.
I'm still KC. Now. So this year you will...
Yeah, inshallah. Inshallah. Serusi.
So what's your plan? So are you fighting in UFC like... Sekali atau dua kali menurut kamu?
This year. InsyaAllah dua kali. Berarti deket dong. Oh wait, this year ends pretty soon.
Satu kali. Just one. I'm searching for interesting facts. Do you know?
Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, you have a fact that you pulled out, right? Yeah. He said you were a promoter too. Yeah, that's right.
What is that? Try to explain. My friend, Eddie, when I was in high school, I would make people, I would have a garage under my house.
Then I would have friends fight each other. And most of the time, they don't even know each other. Like after class, I would be like... But they do know you, right? Yeah, I said, you fight him.
They're like, who's that? And I said, don't worry. don't worry don't worry but you guys fight and we record it do you pay them? no everybody that's the thing everybody in school especially the boys they always want to fight so I said why are you guys trying kenapa bertanding di sekolah? rumah aku aja so you do slaviator no I'm just giving them what they want a safer space I have a mat it's better than the hard floor safe and then I'm the ref I make them weigh in even if it's 20 pound difference it's okay it's okay this is what I get from Coach Rudy golden boy yeah you know golden boy golden boy I love his content shout out golden boy oh yeah it's my om you know om om like like uncle yeah yeah really everybody is my om actually because I'm the yeah I'm too young you know youngest youngest you know youngest youngest yeah yeah yeah Younger Yeah, bebek, ayam, yangges.
Bebek, ayam. How old are you? 25. No, bener. Ih, bener.
Waduh, I did not know that. So how old are you? 23. So you are 2002. 2001 2001 I'm 99 Oh my gosh Yes Well I thought maybe you were like 29, 28 But not too far off, not too far off Why, why? You're pretty mature, pretty mature Very fair Sometimes, When are you seeing me as a mature man? That's a good question.
Probably never. Never mind. You're going back to your old self.
But me too. I want to be a kid forever. Why?
Because that's the best way to live. Carefree. But I'm slowly getting more mature. I'm the same as you.
But I want to be caught. Because I want to swim all the time. You're on the big.
Like a cod? Like a fish? Yeah, codfish. Ahhhh.
I've been to Seattle, this is a joke. I don't understand it either. I'm from Seattle!
So, I have friends in Seattle. Oh, really? So, he studied in Indonesia for one year of high school.
So, I just found out the fact that schools in Indonesia, when it's converted by education credit, He was in 3rd grade. Oh, in America, in Seattle. He was in 12th grade. From 9th grade, he was in 12th grade.
Oh yeah, it's different. From 10th grade, eh, from 9th grade. From 9th grade, he was in 12th grade. Wow.
After that, he went to school in NYFA. New York Film Academy. Oh, that's a good school.
Yeah, in Hollywood. Now he lives in Finland. Finland? Yeah. What is he doing?
he's making short film he wanted to be a director here but he's not fit for the environment because in our film industry we have like zero time no working hours yeah the time to work we always work never stop working i love that Yes. So it's more economical. Do you know what it is?
No. To save cost. Oh, to save cost.
Okay. So the shooting is faster. So with work time, the shooting takes 3 months.
You know 3 months? Yeah. Because they keep chasing us.
He's 2 and a half months old. I see, I see. Do you know 2 and a half months? 2 and a half.
Yeah, learning. Always training. Now we know English.
Ah, shoot, okay. Okay, I'll try. But no promises. Okay. I'm sorry, I'm already in English.
I already broke the promise. It's okay. After you broke your promise three times, I broke your jaw.
Oh no! Speaking of, you move really really well man. I really, when I threw that spinning heel kick to you in the ring.
I was like, I hope Celos moves his head. Because I'm gonna throw it as hard as I can. And you move and you saw it man. You used to box huh? Yeah, I used to box.
You look good. He's good No, no, no I have my first fight And then you give me this I give you my belt Let's go oh that's sick uh so it is it was an influencer fight but this is like beyond first generation belt for me yeah oh my gosh man Kulit sapi. Kulit sapi.
Skin of the cow. Yeah. Bro, hari ini juga aku baru, I just learned kulit means skin.
Yeah. So kulit sapi, kalau digoreng jadi kerupuk kulit, kamu tau gak? Iya.
Baru. baru makan sama si Eddy. Grupu kulit?
Iya. Kamu temen kamu yang dateng sini siapa aja namanya? Tunggu, tunggu. Ah, terlalu...
Aku terlalu gede. Terlalu gede. Maaf.
Terima kasih. See you. Is it good? It's good. I have to wear this everywhere now in Indonesia.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, everyone in Indonesia knows beyond, bro. It's awesome.
It's awesome. Yeah, praise the Lord. Because, because what?
They have a great promoter. Yeah. No, it's just normal. Just normal. You know, my strength in my promotion is my face, you know.
Yeah. Yeah. Very gossip. Yeah! I want to ask, now we use the language Indonesia, right?
Indonesia, let's go. It's clear, it's going to be a mess. So how is it that your family can suddenly be in Hawaii and give birth to you? My family went to college in Australia. And I don't know, my family went to Hawaii to work.
My dad works in a factory. fish codfish yeah there's no cod in Hawaii there's no cod yeah there's a name humuhumu nuku nuku apua do you know? the most common is the tuna fish do you know the tuna fish?
no it's huhu nuku nuku that's tuna fish it's the Hawaiian state fish state fish yeah tuna fish is a state fish also you're playing you're playing you wanna bet? no way no way so Con- F*** my tongue It's different. It sounds the same.
It sounds the same. It's an actual fish. Let me see.
It's mackerel. Oh, mackerel. Ikan tongkol. Okay, okay. Yeah, I know, I know.
So, humu nuku nuku takotukutuk. What is that? It's the state fish of Hawaii.
Humu humu nuku nuku apua. Is it tuna? Tuna?
I don't know. You have to look it up. It's going to be tough to spell.
Just look up Hawaiian state fish. State? Yeah, the state.
Not steak. Not steak. Like the state.
Hawaiian. State. State fish.
Is reef trigger fish? Reef trigger fish? This one?
Yeah, I think so. So your dad works in Hawaii for fish farming. Yeah.
We moved to Seattle when I was 10. A lot of Indonesians in Seattle, right? Quite a lot. But you don't have any Indonesian friends? There's one, his name is Ahmad. I've talked to Ahmad before.
Yeah, Ahmad, super cool, super cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then, who are you going to Indonesia with as your friend? Great Ebony Eddie and...
Great Ebony Eddie, why? you name it so great ebony eddie and gucci aquaman yeah that's the nickname pb right nickname pb pb pb is like an fps online game it's like a nickname jigs pro ah no no no he was a navy navy not navy seal gucci aquaman so aquaman he can swim so well so well and he used to be a really good swimmer for the navy you Oh, Gucci is a good. Yeah, but they like him because he dresses nice, dresses cool, so he's like, ah, Gucci. And then Gucci Aquaman. So great, everyone.
Is it that big? No, he just likes the blackest girl. But now he's looking for a girl in Indonesia. Oh.
But he wants to get citizenship here. Is it? Yeah. You must marry one. Yeah.
I'm going to work on it now. You must learn the Indonesian riz. Yes. I was going to ask you that next.
What do you want to ask? What's the Indonesian riz? What's the best thing for him to say? Okay, uh, what's the name? Ah, where are you going?
I'll teach him in the back because I don't want my jutsu to be learned. Your craft, your art. Very, very secret. Respect, respect.
People have to pay him for that. You know, after this, you mean every three months you want to go to Indonesia? Oh, no.
Every year you want three months here? Every winter? Yeah, every winter.
I love it here, man. It's too much fun. You don't want to open a gym here? Yeah, later.
UFC first. But inshallah, I want one gym here. I'll You want to train in one gym? Like where I train? No, you train people.
Oh yes, I love it. That's one thing that I do at home. I do a lot of coaching.
Okay, so you're a UFC... I don't know. I hope you're not just a top 15, but I hope you're going to be the champion. Me too, inshallah. How confident are you?
How confident are you? Very confident, very very confident especially now like now that I have a whole nation behind me it's like so much more motivation man like seeing all the all the supporters at BEYOND is just ignited a fire in me that I didn't know I have so man I love the Indonesian I love you all. Now say it again in Indonesian. Now?
Yes. Only? What I said earlier, say it again in Indonesian. It's hard. Okay.
How do I say? Reignited. I can't, bro. I can't. You can't.
Now, my motivation is more. Because all Indonesians support me. Right? Is that right?
Yes. All Indonesians support me. Thank you so much.
Nice. Happy to remember that. So, you...
Why do you want to represent Indonesia that much? So, do you... Do you have citizenship in the US?
Yes. Okay. I don't know if I can say this. You can say it. But now I'm also an Indo citizen.
Today, we are. So dual, dual citizen. Let's go!
So you're from Kemenpora? Uh, not Kemenpora. Kemenpora, aku gak tau. Tapi hari ini, this is what we did today. We got the picture, my eyes, the finger scan.
Udah. KTP. Yeah, yeah.
Udah. Mana KTP kamu? Lagi nungguin.
Dia bilangin 3 jam. Yeah, 3 hours. yeah proudly indonesian let's go it feels good feels good so actually funny enough um my sister is playing um basket with Team Nas Indonesia to play FIBA so he already has citizenship then Papa sama aku ke... Enggak tau. So kamu bapak kesini?
Iya. Pertama, papa sama adek aku kesini. so I'm like might as well and it's around the 28th of beyond so it makes sense it just flowed together it made sense it's a fate yeah it's meant to be I feel it too it's crazy so how does it feel like you're already in UFC right? Yeah, of course.
What are you talking about? So, how do you feel? I was talking to Eddie about this I'm still trying to digest everything because everything is happening so fast I'm still super early in my career 7 wins, 0 losses But I'm still young, and I feel like everything is happening so fast.
What I envisioned when I was younger, I'm ahead of it. I'm ahead of schedule. So right now, I'm just trying to slow it down.
Slow it down, and I just want to get back to training. Like I said, when I was at Beyond yesterday, it was just so much motivation to just get back to work. I miss training.
But that... Don't try to slow it down because when God gives you like That kind of thing, it means you're ready. Hmm, lucky. Yeah, do not try to slow it down, just enjoy.
Yeah, go with it. Yeah, go with it. So, I think you're cool, I'm gonna clap. Wow.
You too. Thank you. I hope you can focus on the UFC. I hope you can rack up your wins, rack up a win streak.
I... I hope you don't have to worry about losing. Because for me, because of Khabib, Floyd Mayweather, everybody in combat sports, they want to have a clean slate of records. But I think...
How do I say this? In Indonesia, combat sports is like new. It's like two years now. So everybody wants only... uh support the winning one yeah yeah yeah so for me, I don't know what kind of pressure is on your head I don't know, when you join the UFC, do you think that this is meant to be or like oh it turns out there's pressure too I always have pressure, but to go back, I'm not afraid if I lose like the way, the first thing I did when I was younger I did Taekwondo I competed for national team Team Nas USA World Championships and Pan America I always lost so I was never scared of losing but I just love the process the process like I don't to get in the ring is cool but it's the everyday training to be able to spread love and knowledge to like the people at the gym I just love training and then it just comes with it of course is the fight so I love everything about it I don't define myself by the win or the loss.
It's just the journey, man. The journey. Every single day, it's amazing.
Alhamdulillah, man. I love every second. I'm incredibly blessed, man. Good, good, good.
I'm happy you have that mindset because I think that's rare. It's very rare. Then I want to ask, what's the difference between US athletes in combat sports? with indonesians like you said it's the mindset mindset yeah so i think also there's a little bit more like uh people that are more knowledgeable right because in the u.s there's a lot of people that come from like example like jujitsu brazil yeah there's like people from all the way around so it's like a lot of people come in and it's like a melting pot it was i don't want to say this but like in indonesia there's no one yet like except jacka you know what i mean that got into the to the UFC and what he's done is absolutely incredible, man. He's an, he's amazing.
That be even before Jekka, I can't think of really anyone else, maybe like a couple of guys at one championship, like Adrian, Matt, Mattias, a couple of other guys, but no one who really made it big. So no one was there to, to lead the way. Right.
And so that's ultimately one of, one of my other goals as well as to lead the way for, you know, the Indonesian athletes, because everyone here, man, the amount of resources we have in Indonesia is incredible. and i've been saying this especially to eddie this was probably like a year or two ago but i think we're the fourth most populated country in the world it's crazy man the amount and you guys are all diehard fans so yeah i think i think hopefully inshallah i can lead the way and just bring more i mean i mean more knowledge about mma to indonesia okay so what your long run goal so long run yeah you're already in the ufc man UFC champion first and God willing 5 years later UFC champion then maybe defend the belt a couple times and then after that retire retire because I can I already do a lot of coaching at my gym and I love going out with people especially when they're about to walk out for the fight and being there with them because I know what it's like to be that and be in the ring and one thing I really really take pride in myself is my mindset my mindset and so I definitely want to do that and just That's the thing man, martial arts is my passion. And so I can do this forever.
And I know that I can't fight forever. So I know I can put my energy into other things. So inshallah, after I become a UFC champion, I'll become a coach in Indonesia. You're right, Indonesia. Promise me.
Of course man, of course. Okay, let's go. So the one thing that I want to build in Indonesia also is have the mindset of each one teach one.
So that's rare because we have that kind of, it's famously said, we have the crap mentality, you know, if you... Do you know what a bucket is? No.
A bucket full of crabs. If there is one crab that wants to crawl outside of the bucket, it will take it again. I see. Yeah. One thing, a quote that I really like, I think Michael Chandler said this, if you want to get anywhere in life, you have to help other people get where they want in life.
right like i think i said this i forgot i think someone from beyond did a little interview with me but they're like what's one thing you you you want to say to like someone that gets that wants to get into your position and i said uh you have to surround yourself with good people right no one man has done it alone yeah right you have to have a team and so that comes from within you have to be the best version of yourself that you can first and what what you project is what you attract I can't say that in Bahasa but I'm going to learn I see you often read books Me too But I just started reading books in these 2 years What's your favorite book? The Creative Act by Rick Rubin I think you would really like it The Creative Act, you know? He told me to read that Really really good, especially with what you do too Because we're all like, basically what you're doing and I'm doing, we're both artists We're trying to create something, something new You're trying to make an impact in this world I feel like everyone has their own you know personality and they can they can contribute to the world and make an impact so that hope that book really just helped me just like hone in what i what i bring into the world and how to make that the best that it can be and so you would love it my favorite book creative act i've uh fast read it in in the lab uh in the bookstore but yeah maybe after this i'll buy it let's go you have to yeah what's the other book Anything else?
Give me three. Three? You have told me one. I forgot the name.
If I remember, I'll tell you. Bilal Hasan Top 1000. We'll wait. Okay. Okay. So that we're still on this topic, I'll give you my best three.
Okay. My best three... Number one... Okay, number three first. Number three is...
Winner Effect Winner Effect Have you read it? No, not yet Okay So Winner Effect is about He explains the psychology of winning and learning from losing I love that So when Mike Tyson first lost What Don King did was He gave him a young opponent So he thinks he's strong And then he fights the strong one He fights Larry Holmes Is it Larry Holmes? That's it. That's the third one.
Then, the second one is... He bought it for me. He's my producer.
It's... Yeah, I've never heard of it. It's about stoicism.
Oh, I love stoicism. Yeah. The first one is Atomic Habits. Oh that's in my top 3 too. Let's go.
I love that one. Now, give us your top 3. Atomic Habits, Creative Act, and number 3, It Takes What It Takes. From the coach of Russell Wilson. Do you know Russell Wilson?
He's American football. He's the best in Seattle for Seattle Seahawks. So yeah, It Takes What It Takes. It Takes What It Takes. do you have any other hobbies besides combat sports?
what's your other hobby other than training? to be honest not really man i love everything about it but i really love inshaallah one day i really like fashion i really like fashion so do you know the brand kill crew? kill crew?
yeah it's like a streetwear what is it? streetwear but it has a like kind of like street and fight wear yeah so i really like the combination with like like a the the fighting it's called aesthetic the fighting aesthetic combined with like it's like full violence yeah full violence you know RT merch you know RT merch radio tempur merch oh is that what he's wearing right there it's sick oh BTW I want to give you some bio clothes you have to thank you so much try to take it I give you a Bion shirt. There's Bion 3, Bion 4, and Bion with the logo. Let's go.
Thank you. What else do you think you can explore in Indonesia? So, you said we have a lot of resources.
What do you see besides the population? In the population? Yes, other than the population.
I love the culture, man. Everyone here, where I live, it's so hard to talk. It's hard to talk to strangers. Because everyone there is to themselves. But here, it's like a city that never sleeps.
People are always doing something, always doing something. And everyone's super, super friendly, man. I really, really love it here. Do you think it's more busy in Seattle or in Jakarta?
Jakarta, bro. The traffic is... It's crazy bro.
It's crazy. I could never drive here. I'd go crazy. The one thing that I want to tell to Indonesians is I've been to UK, I've been to US, I've been to Japan and I've been to Singapore. Everybody in Indonesia told me when I was a kid that they are more busy than us.
But actually Indonesian people are really crazy at work. Yeah, true. Indonesian is really crazy at work I haven't seen anyone that work as fast and as busy as Indonesians. Yeah, there's so many. Ada banyak restoran buka 24 hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So crazy. Jadi buat kalian semua yang di rumah, so the one thing that I hate about Indonesian mindset is they thought, mereka pikir mereka itu negara bagian ketiga, but I don't think that way. Because, you know, aku pertama kali... open pay-per-view in Beyond right?
In Asia, there is no other country other than Japan that can sell pay-per-view. And then, setauku is never exceed 100,000. Wow.
So when Beyond pay-per-view debuted, it goes to 300,000. Wow. The second one 400,000.
The third one, yesterday it was 536,000. Wow. Let's go. So 500,000 right?
It's like pay per view. It's like USC pay per view card. But it's still cheap.
But I just want to say that I also finally met representatives from WBA, WBC. They thought, they're from Korea, they're from Thailand. They said actually they also feel weird. Why?
So Southeast Asia has 600,000... people but no one ever started pay per view in my opinion it's not because it's not because they're afraid to start but they think we're not like Americans it's just like that I see it's just like a tiny switch yeah I feel like almost like a self limiting belief like a limit yeah I see like you can't shoot for the stars yeah but actually we can actually make everything that Americans do I think Maybe, Insha'Allah, even better. Even better, man.
I believe it. Awesome. Because, in my opinion, what you said, it really needs a lot, actually, in this generation also, to prove that, other than leading the way, but, come, go this way.
Yeah. Like, I tell what we have in our gym, we have a saying, the blueprint is already out there. Yeah. Especially nowadays, with the internet, it's all out there. It's just up to who is going to follow it, who's going to put in the work.
But also believe in the work as well. Because it's one thing to just keep on working hard. But if you don't believe in it, and then you have other people that believe in it as well. Man, that is incredibly powerful.
Incredibly powerful. In Indonesia, there are a lot of people who have this mindset. Don't work hard. Work smart.
I like that. Don't work hard, work smart. Because...
Oh. Kuli also works hard. Do you know what Kuli is? No. People who build houses, we call it Kuli.
The one who wake up and... Wake up home. Wake up home, I was like... No, no, build a house, build home, build home. Oh, okay, okay.
That's called Kuli. Okay, okay, okay. But I don't believe it because for me... I have that one saying...
It's a Chinese saying actually. Find quality in quantity. oh i like that i really like that so don't don't aim for quality aim for quantity and then learn from it learn from it learn from it learn from it i love that i go to school is the journal aku i like that a lot that's why that's why sekarang byd it's a chinese car company Oh, BYD?
Yeah, BYD. Oh yeah, there's a lot here. Not in America.
Yeah, that's already beating Tesla's sales. Oh yeah, my dad told me. Yeah, right. Because that's it. China is now more sophisticated than the Americans.
Because they find quality in quantity. Gotcha, yeah. I get it. So that's why too many people aim for perfection.
Don't aim for perfection. And you need to aim to make... So you aim to make it, instead of thinking and then no action.
Yes, yes. Nothing is better than the work. That's right.
So before your career ends, how many fights do you want to fight? Oh, that's a good question. Okay, now I'm like that.
I want to be 30. 30? Yeah. InshaAllah. 30-0 to beat Khabib. You have the confidence, right?
Yeah. I'll try. So do you aim for UFC Flyweight Champion or the best of all time? To be honest bro, I was a UFC Flyweight Champion but when I die...
I just want the coolest highlight reel, man. That's to be honest. Like I said, I think my fifth pro fight, I said, like, this belt is not for me. like it bought indonesia so and plus now aku ada tiga so i need to give you a yeah i need to give you one you go up let's go let's go let's go perfect It has to be dirty. Kotor.
Iya, kalau bisa diludahi, dimuntahi, dikencingin sekali. Jadi, iya, biar ada jamurnya. Jamur apa artinya?
Jamur itu mushroom. Mushroom? Mm-mm. Okay.
Iya, kan kalau lembab muncul jamur. Di sana nggak ada jamur ya? There's no mushrooms?
Iya. Ada? Iya.
Mushroom. Mushroom. Kamu suka mushroom?
I don't like it. Why? I don't like the taste.
Aku gak suka rasanya. Kenapa? Aku cuma suka daging, protein.
Daging, kamu sukanya daging ayam apa daging sapi? Sapi, harus. Kenapa? Ada, I just like, aku suka rasanya tapi ada banyak.
BCAA. BCAA, yeah, more minerals. Better for you, yeah. And I just feel good after eating it.
Tapi aku lihat kamu bilang, kamu gak pernah lihat macronutrients. Yeah, hell no. Why?
No. You don't want to think when you eat. Yeah, just eat. But I just learn from experience.
If I eat it and I don't feel good, then I don't eat it again. If I eat it and I feel good, then I just keep eating it. I prefer chicken.
Chicken. Fish. Fish.
Do you prefer fish or cow? Cow. Cow number one. Cow number one.
You like cow? Yeah, I love it. Do you want to marry a cow? A cow and a fish? Do you want to marry a cow?
Do you want to marry a cow? Yes. Sure. Later we'll see if there's a monkey and a cow.
Okay, so, so, so, so. I want to talk about your monkey thing, okay? Why you call yourself a monkey? Because me in high school, I also call my... Let's go.
Let's go. You know, funny enough, my dad used to have a pet monkey when he was little. His name was Samson.
He would always tell me that story when I was younger. And you know, like the evolution of... Have you lived in Jakarta?
not live only visit i haven't been back in eight years last time i was here is 2017 i don't know i just i think it fits my my my head shape i don't know i like it and when i when i fight and i spin i did it to you twice i like the like If I take a photo, my hair will be like... Cool. Uh-huh.
Like, oh, I'll explain it a little bit more. It's like I don't try to take myself too seriously. And that's also one of the things I really take pride in in my mindset when I step in the cage.
It's not really that serious. It's just me and another guy fighting in our underwear. You know, there's people out there in war trying to survive. Why am I putting so much pressure on myself? It's a privilege to be in that spotlight.
Why put all these negative thoughts in my head? I'm doing what I love. You know what I mean?
It's not that serious. And there's a bunch of billions of people in the world that also have a plan. And so it's not really that serious at the end of the day.
So that's my mind. You said that and I remember there's a book called Champion Thinking. Champion Thinking.
Okay, I've heard that. And what you said is in that book. Oh, really? Right.
I also felt that. So everybody told me like... You're Dana White Jr.
Dana White Jr. What you have done is like Dana White, Dana White, Dana White. No. Call Dana White, Selo Sr.
He was born faster. He was born quicker. That's him. No, Selo, seriously.
You are your own. You are your own. I've never seen anything like it, man. Thank you. That was when I...
When I saw you ringside, I was telling these guys, I'm like, man, this guy is crazy. Every single fight, so much energy, and I can tell that it's your passion. You know what I mean?
I don't want to say anything to Dana White. He's going to be my boss someday. I don't want to speak anything. I love, I love, like, so I always looking for a role model, right? So there is so many, like, CEs.
CEO slash a businessman in this world. We see Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, and things like that. But I'm most related to Daniel White. Not because I have a promotion.
But I think I was like him when I was younger. Because I was actually arrogant. Yeah, you have to be. You have to be arrogant. Why do you have to be arrogant?
Arrogant means like, was that cocky? No, like overconfident? like that yeah like that like overconfident i feel like you have to but i say it like a delusion you have to you have to be a little bit crazy yeah a little bit crazy but you also have to like i almost like i call it too like fake it to believe it too so it's like um you have to be a little bit crazy at first but you also have to have a balance of humbleness because it's not an easy road that's what is right but i see i don't see people you know when i see people Kamu lebih bodoh dari aku gitu Aku gitu dulu So that's my real self.
Yeah, me too. Oh, you're like that too? Yeah, yeah.
Why do you think like that? I don't know. I always, I always, I loved movies when I was younger.
I love movies. So I always believed that I could be that person in the movie. Okay, funny story, funny story. My first ever competition was in Taekwondo. And it was like a home tournament.
So it was everybody in my school. And my first two matches, I was only like five years old, was against two girls. Two girls.
I lost both of them. Both of them. But the next week, another tournament.
I watched Karate Kid. Okay. Karate Kid 1. Then I saw Daniel LaRusso. He lost the first match. The second one, he won.
He took an angle. Someone comes forward, he takes an angle, he steps out, and he threw a kick. Then the next week, I was like, Ah, I'm just going to do that. I'm going to do that.
And then I did it the next week. Same exact thing. I stepped out to the side angle.
I hit him to the body, and I won. And I was like, holy sh... I just did that like in the movie.
I just did like... so why can't that be me so i ever since i was young i just believed that i was the main character even when i stepped in the room i'm thinking i'm him these guys are just npc not playable character yeah yeah so it's like i'm player one i always believed that i was the main character so i don't know i was a little delusional i still am but have to be Harus, Harus to dee get delusional Kamu, why did you think All the people are stupid. Back then?
Back then. I don't know. So I'm blessed.
I've known I'm smart since I was little. You knew you were smart when you were young, right? Yeah, I knew I was smart. So I feel like I wasn't born a fighter.
So in Indonesia, especially Jakarta, in the suburbs, it's not easy being Chinese and Christian. It's not easy. So you're half Chinese? Yeah.
I'm Chinese and Manado you're Sunda Padang yeah right I might have screwed that up so you're not Padang that's why you didn't say it yesterday what does that mean? because you didn't say what you asked me yeah but I also forgot I forgot I need new catchphrase I forgot but my dad is from Jakarta Jakarta So, Betawi. Betawi, yeah.
Bener, bener. So, if you Betawi, kamu ada Chinese-nya juga pasti? Pasti, harus.
We're brothers, bro. Chinese power, bro. Iya, aku tau, aku pinter. So it's rare also kalau orang tahu dia pinter.
Jadi aku ada lihat orang pinter. Tapi aku tahu dia nggak tahu kalau dia pinter. You can see that also right? Ya, ngerti. Berarti kamu ADHD, you don't have any hobby outside fighting.
Terus kamu mau jadi world champion, so what else? What's the plan of your relationship? Kamu punya pacar kan?
Berapa tahun? Punya 8 tahun. yeah she she and I are a team from the US for Taekwondo yeah so she's been there since the beginning so she understands everything but right now it's so new because are you comfortable?
yeah of course it's good yeah so this is so new like the fame like a little bit of fame A little bit of fame, we're both like learning, lagi belajar. Gimana, like how do we navigate through it. So, it's all new but yeah, udah 8 tahun.
So, mau tepuk tangan lu. hahaha yeah yeah yeah I've been married for 7 years yeah, congratulations yeah, I just got married you came when I got married but that's the thing that's what I've been planning I want to have a private right I want to invite 50 people only but along the way we change plan The one who was invited was 1400 1400? 140? Oh 1000?
1400 People at the wedding? Yes That's crazy It's a pay per view Pay per view wedding It's not a pay per view but I was also surprised That's crazy man Where was it? In Jakarta, the Sheraton Oh hey btw you said you've fought your fastest fight is 7 seconds yeah right so 1 2, 3, 4 5, 6, 7 and it was done that's a long story man but I fought for a regional not even a regional super super local promotion and funny enough I had a 2 fight contract The first fight, me and this guy went up to 135 pounds. So a bantam weight.
And then this guy doesn't have the best record. He comes from a, yeah, doesn't have the best record. So we show up.
Day before I weigh in, he weighs in. The next day, fight day, we see each other kind of just around the arena. And then we're getting ready.
It's already two fights before mine. I'm already wrapped up. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready.
I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready.
I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready.
I'm ready. I'm ready. Terus ada orang bilangin dia lagi sakit.
He couldn't compete. So, day of fight. Then, two months after that, I competed again. But, it's the same. This person is a little bit crazy.
Doesn't have the best record too. And then, so... Okay, this is going to be kind of long. Funny enough, two weeks before, my friend, Gucci Aquaman, he was clubbing in Seattle. Then, there was someone in that club.
He was... He was selling his ticket. He said, I'm competing this day. My friend said, oh let me see.
Then he showed. That's my friend. So the guy that I was supposed to fight two weeks before was going clubbing. So Gucci Aquaman is a fighter too?
Oh, Gucci Aquaman is a very good fighter. Very good. Still an amateur. I think four wins, one loses. Eddie Great Ebony is also a fighter too.
One fight. one win zero loss yeah really good man you have the same record as me let's go let's go let's go uh but same record in what mma or boxing boxing okay that's still good still good experience i think sorry to get off track but every man should fight at least once you can learn so much in life about it yeah you have to continue oh I keep going yeah okay yeah so he said oh that's my friend and he said okay and he buy a ticket from him he felt bad sorry so now comes the day of the fight the day before we weigh in the next day ready for fight same thing right and this was two months after the guy that pulled out the day of the fight so two months after Luckily, Alhamdulillah, we get out to the cage and then they announce us. They say go. And then I get out there. I'm standing southpaw.
I fake, fake, fake, fake. Then I... What is it? How do you say kick again?
Tendang. Tendang. I kick with my left leg.
I hit him. I thought I hit him in the leg, right? But I actually hit him in the...
Ah! Shit! God! Now I understand.
He said, what is it? The rice? Bacang.
Bacang kon... Bacang kon... Bacang koncol.
Kalau ikan, ikan tongkol. Lain. Sounds the same.
Maaf, maaf, maaf, guys. Aku pikir kamu bercanda. If people are pissed, we say it dongkol.
Dongkol? It's too similar. Yeah, it's okay.
It's like bite and write. Oh yeah, bener. It's like, yeah, it's just rhymes.
Kalau nggak ada yang rhymes, there is no rapper in Indonesia. Oh yeah, bener. Can you rap? Yes you can Great Emoji and I just do it for fun You have a song right? Okay freestyle Give me the beat rapping so long.
Ah, that's it. That's it. Yay!
Thank you. Huh? You, you, you, you. Harus, harus. In English or Bahasa?
What do you want? Oh, Bahasa. Bahasa, bahasa.
Okay. Okay. Impact-driven legacy.
Yeah. Yeah. Tadi pagi aku makan nasi basi, perut gak enak. Aduh.
Sukanya aku makan nasi pake susu asih. Susu asih. Kamu tau susu asih?
Enggak, aku tau susu milk. That's what you drink from your mother. Susu asih.
Breast milk. Yeah! Go kill.
Fuck. Man. Very, very talented. Man of many traits. You know, people used to call me, you know, Jango, Jango Unchained.
Oh. I forgot his name. Yeah, I forgot too. Jamie Foxx.
Oh, yeah, bro. Yeah, that's a new person. Everyone can do that. Jamie Foxx, Will Smith.
Oh, yeah, Will Smith. Will Smith. He can rap, he can act. Chris Brown, they are on the same league. Yeah, that's right.
Do you have a favorite artist? Artist for music? Yeah. I like...
You have to be Michael Jackson, bro. Number one. I started dance, so I was a dancer. Bro, I can tell, bro.
I lost. I lost a dance battle. Yeah, you're 71. And I lost the rap battle too, I have to admit.
I lost. I lost again. That's more because you don't understand.
Yeah. Give me two, three years. I win.
I win. Two, three years? Two, three years, yeah.
I will already be the goat, man. Okay, respect, respect. Eh, question. This is the one that's closer. Okay.
You have to put it first. Because? Hydrated.
Hydrated. You like hydrated? You have to. I don't like it. Why?
Because it's getting dry. I'm getting hungry. Ah, okay.
Okay. One trick. Okay.
When I have a tough meeting. Or I'll have like a... Yeah, tough meeting.
Every tough meeting I don't eat and I don't drink. Ah I see, I see. So I'm hungry.
Yeah. When I'm hungry, I'm sharp. Mmm.
Primal. I'm Primal. Yeah, I'm Primal. You can see it? I see it, I see it.
You see my prank? Yeah. Yeah.
la la la la la Mike Tyson? oh you're gonna bite the ear no he learned from me ah I see it what? yeah your face is like Mike Tyson is that right?
yeah you know Saitama? Saitama? Do you watch anime?
No, I can't watch cartoons bro It's not cartoon, it's anime! Sorry, sorry You will love So when you think you can do anything in the movie When you watch anime Bro, it will elevate the level of your delusion. Maybe, maybe.
All my friends like Dragon Ball Z. Like that. So they all tell me, but I try. Dragon Ball is the father.
But now, now... So you like the Zero to Hero thing, right? You like Karate Kid. What else? Spider-Man.
Spider-Man. I love Spider-Man. And then what else? Yeah, that's about it.
Karate Kid, Spider-Man. That's it. Pirates of the Caribbean. Jack Sparrow. Okay.
What else? What else? Top 5 movies of all time. Okay, okay. We have to rush hour.
Jackie Chan Number 1 Or number 5 No order No order No order Top 5 no order Okay okay Fine fine fine Top 5 Top 5 5 rush hour Okay 5 is rush hour Which one? All All All But I like the first one The first one The first one or the third one? You put me on the spot man I already forgot kinda The first one, I think... The first one is, me you, me you.
Who me? Me you! That's the first one.
Which one is the one where the little kid who sings... I walk by every night, talking to the looking fine. Is that the second or the third one?
First one. Okay, the fifth is Rush Hour 1. Top four. Four...
I like Harry Potter All series? All, the whole thing Who's your favorite character? It has to be Harry Potter Main character man Yeah Harry Potter, then Pirates of the Caribbean Jack Sparrow Aha Then there's... What else, what else?
What do I like, Eddy? You know what I like. Huh? Huh?
Yeah, I don't really know. Star Wars, whatever. Sorry. It's okay. Oh!
Raid. Raid. The raid!
The first one or the second one? 1, 2, 3! First one, bro.
Dude, we watched that not too long ago. It's the best. Oh, the action. I could blast you out.
Who's your favorite character? I've met all the... So, I'm close to Bang Iko. Iko, you have to.
Yeah. Because you're really crazy about the first main character, right? True. Do you prefer Iko or Mad Dog?
Oh, Mad Dog is a sick character. I have to say ICO. ICO, number one karate kid. Okay. Karate kid.
You? You? Okay, top 5. Yeah. Ready.
Top 5 movie of all time. I like the zero to hero thing so... I like business movies. Okay. Like documentary.
But number 5... I... Of all time, right?
Okay. Of all time, I have to put... Guardians of the Galaxy All I like this soundtrack My favorite 80s Number 4 is Black Panther The first one I always It's like I always feel when I'm being belittled, it's like, Jejaka! Jejaka. Tecala!
As you can see, I am not that. I always love that scene. I remember. That's the fourth. The third one that I like the most is...
Air. Have you watched Air? No. Oh, the documentary. Nike, Nike, Nike.
Air, Air, Air. About Jordan. But I haven't watched it yet. You have to watch it. Yes, I want to.
Air is the third one. Number two, my favorite movie is... Tetris.
The game, right? Yes, it's about the game. The first one of all time, my favorite movie is...
Grand Turismo Grand Turismo, I don't watch it You must watch it Okay, ready I always love to watch movies that is promoting dream believing I really like that, so I feel like that too Yeah, You have to watch anime. You have to watch My Hero Academia. No, bro. It's a joke.
I've seen that on the trailer on Netflix. The trailer. It's not Slash.
No. You're not joking, right? Nah, nah. Like this? Yeah, right.
Yeah, this is the one. Maybe, maybe. What else?
Okay, so you like to love... I used to want to be a filmmaker, you know? Oh, I see it, I see it.
Why? You like creating something. Like I said before, everyone's made to create something.
I see you have like really good vision. And you see where like you can put... your thoughts and your creativeness into so I can see you making something like filmmaking you don't feel like that?
when you think, don't you think that the thing in your head can come to life? do you think that too? yeah, I have to, for sure actually funny enough, I wanted to be my first ever I told Eddy I wanted to be a stuntman I love movies, that's why I love movies and when I did Taekwondo, there was a demonstration Then there's choreography, breaking the boards, something like that. I love doing that. I love show.
You know what's funny? The ring. When we did it in the ring.
When we did that, it was choreographed. Yeah, but not really. You did a great job. That was fun.
So you're really into YouTube now? I'm into it. I used to make YouTube videos when I was younger.
I made skits and stuff. What do you watch? 1, 2, 3. I think we watch the same thing.
No, I don't think so. Sekarang aku gak nonton skit lagi. Dulu, yang dulu. Yang dulu.
Please give me a good one. Ya, ya, ya. Aku lupa.
3, 2, 1. Okay, okay. 3, 2, 1. Ryan Hicka. Yeah!
Let's go! Let's go! Let's go! I'm pumped! So, flashback to your vlogs, when I told, like, I've been live in America 2 years, on YouTube, that's when I lived in America.
I lived with Ryan Higa and Smosh. Wow! Smosh, yeah.
I'm also... Okay, top 3 YouTubers. Okay. In order. You must be in order.
It's the top 3 of all time. Now I always watch... Now it's more MMA. MMA is not a YouTuber. Oh, yeah.
It is. 3... After this, we'll go to your top 3. Okay. MMI, okay?
Okay, okay. But, YouTuber. This is YouTuber first.
Okay. Number three... What should it be? I used to like fashion, sneakers Paul Kentu Do you watch?
Yeah I know Paul Kentu Thrift, thrift, thrift So when you say Gucci Aquaman I thought Oh yeah he used to say that You look Gucci Yeah I learned from him Oh I see Yeah Paul Kentu I used to watch that all the time But the third one is Richie Lee Richie Lee is his friend Really? Yeah, Supreme, right? Yeah, Richie Lee.
But Richie Lee is currently in Seattle. Oh yeah, he's in Seattle. Richie Lee.
Richie Lee, I like that. Richie Lay, right? Richie Lee, yeah. LA. LA, yeah.
Next. Number two. Now I like to know Danny Mullen. Danny Mullen. Oh, like Nelk.
Nelk Boys. Nelk Boys. But there's another person.
His name is Danny Mullen. He's really, really crazy. He goes out into the public and he says crazy, crazy shit. So, Danny Mullen, number two.
Then, number one. You know, funny enough, like preparing for, you know, coming to Indonesia, I had to learn a little bit more Bahasa. Okay. So I listened to a lot of your podcasts.
Ah. A lot of it. So I'm learning.
I'm learning. You know, this is the best podcast in Indonesia, you know? I believe it. I believe it.
We have other better ones, but they're old. They're old? When they grow older.
I'm the best. Yes, yes, yes. New wave, new generation.
I'm just kidding. Om Daddy. You're Om Daddy?
No, no, no. There's a bald one, but he's big. Okay, okay. Yeah. That's also a senior.
Om. Okay. Okay.
You want three of my favorite YouTubers? Yeah. Okay.
The one who very inspired me. Okay. Number 3 is me.
Number 3 is... What's the name of the song? Smosh. Smosh.
Smosh. I see... I always see them as a whole... Their whole career reflects on me like how to upgrade things.
Because they are from lip-sync. so you know I came from tik tok firstly, so I'm from tik tok just dancing and now I'm a promoter before I saw them from karaoke only lip sync and then they have their whole production house and then they sold that's why it's most dead yeah I didn't know that then number 2 is I used to love... Do you know Dominic's show?
Quest Crew. You know Quest Crew? Oh yeah, I think I remember.
Rand Dominic's show. No, no, no. Number one is Ryan Higa. Yeah, must.
Same. And I think too, I don't know where I heard it, but like I wanted to start YouTube, but like malu, right? It's like a little shy.
No, no, no. A little shy to make YouTube. I don't know like what people want to see. But then I just like, you know what? I'm just going to put out what I want to put out.
Like what do I like doing? But I heard that people like seeing the progression. Like you said, like you don't have to have anything fancy. Fine. Quality.
In? In quantity. Of course, I remember. I want to write in my journal. You also journal?
Of course. You journal everyday? Let's go. How long has it been? When did you start?
It's been 3 years. Same! Yeah, like when I start my amateur career. Who did you watch when you first started learning to journal?
I watched Sean O'Malley. Oh, you watched Sean O'Malley. A lot. Oh, not the first time you journaled? Like the first time I journaled?
you journal because of Shain or Manli? yeah because I love watching his podcast his podcast he always says I always journal because like we said for fighting at least it's all mindset it's all mindset you have the same style yeah I watch him a lot the swag Yes sir There's a question Do you think All of the Indonesian combat athletes Have a chance to have a career like you? Or do you think They have to Born in US also Especially nowadays I said it before The blueprint Is already out there it's on there is who's going to follow it who's going to follow it right especially we got the internet right anyone can do anything now yeah like the resources is out there so it's up to whoever is going to follow it so i i believe i believe that uh you don't have to i mean it does help when you you you live in a better environment but if you want it that bad you have to be willing to put in the time and the sacrifice and and the blueprint is out there so i believe anyone can do it anywhere okay so when is your like exact mental switch like when so because i i i believe that skill it compound compounds skill you can compound skills uh but mental is are like It's just either on or off When like when I'm fighting no no no when you're really like Thinking that anything you can do you can do anything when you know it's funny is when when I hit like that last story where I I watched a gun on ton karate kid to those the The competition I could I hit that right at that moment right at that moment because I said oh my god i saw it in a movie and i did it so that's when i started just believing believing in all all the work that i put in and you learn because you lost first yeah yeah and the best saying ever is you either win or you learn so yeah okay top three uh of all time mma oh fighters do you watch box Sing.
Not as much. No, no, no. Okay.
Top three. Top three MMA. Number three.
Harus. John Jones. Number three.
John Jones. Yeah. Just because of lightweight and heavyweight.
The baddest man in the world. Harus John Jones. Number three. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Number two. Number two.
Sekarang Ilya Tupulia. Number 2, Ilya Topuryan? What he's done.
I know your number 1. Yeah, you know it. Can you guess? Is it GSP? No.
Khabib? No. Satu, Demetrius Johnson. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Demetrius Johnson is my first one.
Harus, man. If you put him in the heavyweight division with his skill set, his athleticism in his feet. It's like, ah, lu gak nonton anime sih.
You know. In anime, there is anime called Baki Hanma. Okay, Baki.
Okay, Baki is like the strongest teenager in the world. When he shut a box, he imagined the strongest and the wildest creature that can beat him. Oh, okay.
Firstly, when he imagined that, when he envisioned that, the first one in line is Muhammad Ali versus this creature, right? Do you know what creature is it? What? It is a big, it is a fing heavyweight praying mantis. Oh, s.
Okay, okay. So, you know praying mantis? Yeah. When you, any, any insect that is his size, he will cut.
or he can be a bandit decapitate? or he can be a bandit so his first invasion Muhammad Ali with his movement he lost to that pre-mantist and then with his shadow box He lost first and then he was envisioned. So it's the same as when I think of Dimitri Johnson.
Suddenly, as big as John Jones, he died. Yeah, okay, I see. I understand. Yeah. It's like how people...
how we explain pound per pound means, right? Hmm, okay. So that's it.
Huh? My top three? My top three, number three is Ilya Topuria.
Soon to be number one, I think. Number two is Jon Jones. Number one is Demetrius Johnson. My number one is...
And number four, GSP. Number five is Conor McGregor. Because of...
Okay, what he does to the sport. Agreed, agreed. Okay, your number four and number five.
Number four, Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor. He's what got me into this, actually.
And he's who inspired Ilya, too. Oh, for sure. Have you seen, like, the first until the fifth fight?
Yeah, like this. Karate, right? It's crazy, yeah. Yeah. i saw that before he do the yeah yeah agreed agreed so number number four conor mcgregor like sardo said you only as good as your last fight yeah i know he what he's done is what defines swag in your fight style and no one i i i see him uh get the swag from mvp first ah yeah yeah i see it i see it i uh before mvp got got to the efc right but he perfects it yeah yeah Because he can dance too.
Right. He krump. Yeah, krump.
Yeah, yeah. I saw it like you. Yeah. That's so cool. I see.
It's so cool. It is. Because what Israel likes, I like it all. He was anime. He was anime.
He krump. He do hip hop. And then he fights. I love fights. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I see it. So what got me into the promotion is Twenty... 2016 eight years ago i i watched uh antony joshua and canelo title run that year they fight they fought like many times yeah and then i see antony joshua versus vladimir kichkov the the first eddie hearn sold out wembley stadium i think what being Crazy. One, eh, two men fighting with their fists and then 90,000 people watching.
Crazy bro. Yeah, agreed, agreed. 90,000 yesterday was 5,200.
5,200. And then 90,000. Okay, yeah, yeah. It's 18 times bro. That's crazy.
90,000! That's crazy. Wembley Stadium.
And Eddie Hearn have sold Wembley twice. Wow. M Fun fact, everybody that have sold Wembley Stadium, like by their own, in England they should call him Sir. Yeah, he should be treated as a sir. Oh, I see, I see, I see.
Like Sir Alex, do you watch football? Soccer, soccer in America, right? Maaf, maaf, maaf.
Football, maaf. Yeah, bener. Yeah, football.
Do you watch? No, no. Do you watch other sports? No, no. You don't watch NBA?
No. Why? I think it's boring. Yeah. Why it's boring?
I don't know. I just never liked it. I never liked it.
But I used to play soccer. Football. Sorry.
I used to play football. Yeah. But fighting is the best. Like you hear that saying, right? Say you're in like, you know, you're watching like a show or anything.
And then there's someone else fighting in the corner. Everyone's going to watch the fighting. That's Mike Tyson.
Quotes. Okay, yeah, Mike Tyson. But it's right.
I'm just so attracted to that. That's as real as it gets. Yeah, me too.
That's why I have a fighting promotion. Makes sense. Then, okay.
You. Okay. From all the people you like, have you ever downloaded any other people's mental?
Like me, before a big important moment, I used to watch Michael Jordan, I watched Kobe. I watched like... I was the first one to let...
My Killer Instinct is because of Kobe. You don't watch it either, right? Watch what?
Kobe Bryant. Not when he plays, but I read like a book. I read a book, but I forgot the name.
Mamba Mentality. Yeah, Mamba Mentality. It has to be a great, great book.
But I watch one, Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor, DJ, and Sean O'Malley. That's my three favorite to imitate. Because I feel like you can take a little bit from anyone and make it to your own. You never want to copy someone fully, but there's always something that you can take from them.
Life is full of reverence. You are what you reference from. Yeah, that's it.
I always say that When you see your any other current condition is what he reference from So yeah and God let that happen or it Anyway you are a person who is in accordance with your life reference Your life reference is God who gave you to be a person like you are now Do you believe that too? Yes for sure for sure so god really make you and then you watch karate kid and then you do that move yeah and then your mental switch yes yes yes okay Oh I thought you have scars Oh yeah, it's acne It's not acne It's an eye patch Your eye patch is heavy, let me try It doesn't fit you What does it mean? It fits Ganteng, ganteng. This is so dark, you know? How do you say bright in Bahasa?
Terang. Too bright. Hmm.
Lampu kakak. Do you know lampu kakak? Light brother.
That's what it translates. Yes, that's right. Okay, so watch your... What's your message for Indonesian people? or any athlete that you want to pursue like so you're still pursuing your career you're in the end of your career what's your message to athletes or Indonesian people that you hope they can do it I think it's kind of the same what I said before you have to find friends, people who have similar goals like you but also someone that can help keep you humble and keep you in place right they'll tell you when you're wrong right tell you tell tell them when you uh they'll tell you when you uh you need to do more right you have to have people so just you are who you surround yourself by okay Lastly, everybody in this podcast, so it is Impact Driven Legacy, right?
I don't know if we will go to another podcast or so, but what's your message to Bilal Alaikai Hasan in the next five years? In the next five years, okay. Oh, you're really careful. Yeah, I heard that.
That's a good question. I've never really thought about that. Keep reminding yourself why.
Keep reminding yourself why. Because, you know, you can get caught up in a lot of, you know, a lot of distractions, right? You want to, of course, do more, but it all comes down to what you've been doing. Because, you know, alhamdulillah, everything in my life right now, you know, I'm seven wins, right?
So everything's been working. So just making sure that to never stray away from what I've done so far, right? being able to go to training tell it to yourself in the 5 years ok ok right here 5 years from now Bila Alka Haisan is UFC flyweight champion what are you gonna talk to him don't forget your why how do you say why in bahasa don't forget why don't forget your reason why you did this at the first time That's too long.
Yeah, because... Do you read Start With Why? Start With Why?
No. You have to read it too. Okay, Start With Why. That's top 2 for me.
I forgot. Okay, Start With Why. Okay.
Yeah. Don't forget your why. Even when you're UFC champion, the thing with life is always what's next? What's next? What's next?
You can get caught up with always what's next, but always remember your why. Always remember your why. That's it. Good.
Say it, Mr. Hassan. Thank you very much. What interesting question that comes up to my mind.
Do you think Conor McGregor forget his wife? Yes. Yes.
Because you get caught up, right? You get caught up and there's so... You always chase for that, I want to say, that next high, that next, you know, the closest.
The thing about fighting, you hear a lot of... You hear a lot of fighters saying, like, even when they retire, they always want to come back. right so many fighters come back to fighting right so they need to find like um another avenue to put in their energy into so that's why i always tell myself find out always remember your why why are you doing this even when it comes to fighting and hopefully inshallah you know something else where i want to put into like like a gym and giving back to other people don't ever forget your why so that's why is it why because uh That's a good reason, like the thing is too is like you gotta learn from other people's mistakes, right? And so that that's the wisdom I got from it Yeah It's like Sunda saying, you know.
Sadie. Sadie. Anyinglah. Anyinglah.
Don't say okay? Okay, okay. It is a bad word.
Okay, okay. I know now. Aku tau sekarang. Apa Apa? Kau punya nama gak?
I have mine. What is it? It's Don Don?
That's a good name Kododon Kododon Because it's as big as a dinosaur Wow Wow Kododon You can name it now. Name it now. Maybe he will be happy.
Maybe he will be happy. It is a he or she, no? It's a he, right?
Harus. Yeah, because in America, you have to be asked. Yeah, don't tell me. I could go on about that.
That's why I'm glad I'm in Indonesia. He put me on the spot. What's a perfect name? For real.
Ah, this might be weird. A little weird. But probably Billy.
Billy. Damn! You name it after yourself?
No, my name is Bilal. But, okay so... Bilal Willy. No, no, no. So, this is gonna go on another part.
But whenever I get into the cage, and they say go, I always think about... Like, not my alter ego, but my higher version, my higher self, right? If it's me in that cage and they say go, I'm too attached to my feelings and I react. So my higher version, I call it Billy. My a**hole, Billy.
The higher version. Is it good or no? Yeah My higher self is ZXZ ZXZ? Is that the guy like this?
It's ZZ Oh shit, wrong guy Yeah, yeah, ZZZ Okay, ZXZ stands for Is Exist So you, you If you heard You read it fast Celos is Exist ah oh yeah yeah that's your instagram like yeah ah okay okay and then celos is exist is just like a message for myself Okay, I get it. That's cool. Cool.
Celos might not be mature. ZXZ is mature. Ah, your higher version.
Okay. Cool. Billy.
That's cool. Billy. But Dawn is different.
Dawn is Primal. I know. Yeah. Installed with like 90,000 horsepower of fangs.
Woo! So it goes like this and this. Oh! That's crazy. Hooked up.
Wow. You know, it's nyangkul. What does nyangkul mean?
So, what Billy does is like this, right? I don't know. Mine is... Wow.
Maybe after this, you teach me. You teach him the Indonesian Riz. Yeah. Don't give away your secret. That's what he said.
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