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US Immigration and Plymouth Street

Sep 18, 2025

Summary

  • This episode featured Lisa Wen, founder of Plymouth Street, discussing her journey building a tech-enabled service to streamline the US immigration process for technologists, especially through the little-known O-1A visa.
  • Key points included an overview of US employment-based immigration, the severe limitations of the H-1B lottery, and the opportunities afforded by the O-1A visa.
  • Lisa shared insights into Plymouth’s playbook for simplifying and accelerating immigration petitions, her personal motivation, and guidance on both grant funding and breaking into Silicon Valley as an outsider.
  • Attendees included host Turner Novak and Lisa Wen; the discussion covered actionable frameworks for productivity, hiring, and entrepreneurship.

Action Items

  • None specified with due dates or explicit owners in the transcript.

US Immigration System Overview

  • The US has both employment-based and non-employment-based immigration systems. Plymouth Street focuses on employment-based options.
  • The H-1B visa is heavily oversubscribed and allocated via a random lottery, resulting in most qualified applicants losing out.
  • Several lesser-known visa categories exist, such as country-specific visas (e.g., TN, E-3), the J-1 for cultural exchange, and the O-1A for individuals with extraordinary ability in STEM/business.
  • The O-1A visa is uncapped, has faster processing, and is more accessible than most realize; applicants need to meet 3 out of 8 possible criteria.
  • Many more people (e.g., PhDs, accomplished engineers) are eligible for the O-1A than currently apply.

Problems and Opportunities in Talent Immigration

  • The US economy and technology sector benefit disproportionately from immigrant founders—55% of unicorn startups are immigrant-founded.
  • The lottery system creates risk and instability for highly skilled individuals and for US innovation.
  • Talented workers often take circuitous routes (e.g., via Canada) to get to the US due to immigration obstacles.
  • The O-1A visa provides a viable alternative but is underutilized (fewer than 5,000 STEM recipients per year).

Plymouth Street Approach and Story

  • Plymouth Street accelerates the O-1A application process: applications are prepared in 4 weeks (vs. 4 months with traditional law firms); premium processing yields decisions within 15 business days.
  • The service is designed to remove jargon and focus on clear, precise documentation aligned to O-1A criteria, resulting in a 99% approval rate.
  • The application process still requires mailing a 500-page physical document.
  • Pricing is competitive with traditional firms; the customer experience focus includes speed and guidance (not self-serve).
  • Lisa’s personal immigration struggles, including a visa rejection, motivated her to build Plymouth.
  • Early company funding came from philanthropic grants (not VC), notably from Schmidt Futures, Emergent Ventures, the Talent Mobility Fund, and others.

Community and Impact

  • Plymouth has helped over 100 technologists secure O-1A visas, leading to the growth of a community that includes events and peer support.
  • The goal is to expand beyond immigration to become an onramp for immigrants building life and careers in the US, fostering a pay-it-forward ecosystem.

Lessons on Breaking into Silicon Valley

  • Lisa’s path: cold outreach, leveraging weak ties and introductions, and showing authentic, relevant experience in the technology sector.
  • Emphasis on hustle, clear storytelling in outreach, and showing value (e.g., identifying or fixing issues for a target company).
  • Advice for outsiders: build a relevant track record where you are, be proactive in reaching out, and demonstrate passion for the technology sector.

Company Building and Productivity Frameworks

  • Hiring: focus on understanding candidates’ hopes and fears to align motivations, in addition to skills; use contract-to-hire for early team members.
  • Productivity: use frameworks like “write it down, make it happen,” daily/weekly to-do lists, and regular calendar audits to ensure time is spent on high-impact activities.
  • Lisa’s personal productivity hack: work primarily from her laptop to minimize distractions and maximize efficiency.

Policy and System Recommendations

  • Make more visa categories “dual intent” to allow travel during green card processing.
  • Establish a FastTrack green card path for graduates from US universities.
  • Transition immigration petition filings to electronic submission.

Decisions

  • Focus Plymouth Street on O-1A visa fast-tracking — Because of its uncapped nature, high approval rate, and underutilization among technologists.

Open Questions / Follow-Ups

  • Will US immigration policy evolve to better support high-talent immigration, such as expanding dual intent categories or enabling electronic filing?
  • How will Plymouth’s community evolve as they expand services beyond immigration?
  • What are the practical next steps for scaling the O-1A visa application process as demand grows?
  • No specific open or unresolved action items from the meeting.