when I was about to eat something whenever I go to the fridge or whenever I would think what am I going to eat I looked at it from like what nutrients am I going to get from this and how's that going to make me feel 80 20. so 80 you're like focused on the nutrients and then 20 you're like well enjoy life is you know right you have to enjoy it get into or have you always been into skin care like is this a long time passion like how did this come to be oh so that I mean I got into health and wellness when I was younger because my mom was diagnosed with cancer in her spleen and so as a family we got even deeper into health and wellness we thought we were pretty healthy growing up um because my grandparents had like an organic vegetable patch and my grandma introduced me to Noni juice when I was like 13 and she was drinking aloe vera and then when my mom was diagnosed with cancer in her spleen we were just like hold up we thought we were healthy like we were eating the organic food and then my mom got given this book called The Chemical Maze and it just explained in layman's terms kind of all of the ingredients that you might see on the back of packaged Goods kind of sometimes you see numbers it will explain to you what that number meant um and in larger doses could it be detrimental to your health and this is why I kind of thing um whether you know and in that so we had to look at everything we were using uh what we were like eating packaged Goods all of the household products all of the skin care products because what you put on your skin so thin and that's why when you're pregnant we're told to be really cautious and careful of what we're putting on our skin but we should be concerned regardless like we should value ourselves just as much as we value our children absolutely and so that's kind of where my passion started for wanting to create something that was really pure and certified organic um and I wasn't able to find it so that's when I decided I wanted to like create it for myself and my family and then when we started getting great results like my mom actually had rosacea on her skin just around here and around her nose and basically she was on a steroid cream and she was really embarrassed to kind of go out in public because her whole life she'd had great skin and I gave her the Noni glow face oil which was one of our first products that we had made and within a week she was off the steroid cream just using the only glow face oil and it's never come back oh wow that's amazing so it was pretty wild so we were like okay we want to so at that point I was like I'm not gonna just keep it for myself and my family I wanted to be able to be available to people worldwide and then I thought well how am I going to do that because I don't want to compromise the quality of these products so if I get outside investors sometimes people have different ways they want to do things but I really want to do it as pure and as potent as it can be so to this day I still own 95 in the company and I have a five percent investor from day one so I make all the decisions I'm the CEO the founder the creative director the person who writes all of the verbiage on the back of every package who you know manages the whole team of 60 people and this is my baby girl I have three boys but this is my baby girl so wow and where is the company based well I'm here yeah and then we also so we have um we just actually decided to during covid we had to Pivot to working from home and then we got different team members All Over America actually and it turned out to be at first because we had an office in Santa Monica but then we ended up like at the time because of finance and whatnot we said it's not going to be the best investment when people are feeling afraid to come in town in into the office to continue to lease this office space and we started employing people kind of all over America which is awesome now we all work remotely in America cool but then we get together you know for meetings and whatnot and then in Australia we have an office space and a warehouse oh wow so we have 30 people there and 30 people here and then we have you know our different Consultants that go and service all of their stores and our reps and you said in addition to those other people uh that Serum with your mom was one of the first products the new glow face oil yeah so what were what was the impetus was there one thing that you were trying to solve that you created first or was it a few things at the beginning well at first I just wanted like healthy products for your skin and it was interesting because back then not many people were using face oils like we were one of the very first face oils to come out that was I launched in 2009 in Australia oh wow yeah wow but I didn't launch here in America until 2017 because as I said it was my company and to launch internationally and to expand into America was like a huge financial investment on my behalf and I didn't want to compromise the quality so I didn't want to have other people involved so I you know I I took the leap eventually and launched into America in 2017. very cool but it just started off as like a small little business in Australia in 2009 and it was doing extremely well and it was like just my passion project and then my husband actually said to me uh at like maybe nine years ago he was like why don't you have your skin care line here it's amazing because he was getting incredible results from using it he has very dry skin and also sensitive skin and I said well it would take a lot of money on my behalf to launch it here and he's like well what are you waiting for like you're spending all this time and money working for other people you need to invest in yourself and I was like yeah but then I'm putting all my eggs in one basket he's like well if you don't do it you'll never know so he's like he like gave me he verbally gave me the confidence to like just take that leap yeah whereas in the past if I had spoken to people they'd be like oh well you just never know and the Skin Care Market is saturated and what if it doesn't work and people don't understand Organics and I'm like whoa wow yeah because I would think I I mean I've been an entrepreneur for 20 years so for me I always think you can there's this old expression that says you live or die by your own sword like at least if it's you yeah that you're like well I know how hard I'll work for myself right you're working so hard for all these other people but if you are the one who's making the decisions figuring it out do it you'll like benefit or you can I the idea of putting all your eggs in one basket I actually think is makes more sense yeah than when you're putting them everywhere right right so yeah because you're like this has to work because I'm betting so much on this and I've put so much heart and energy into it so I love that I think it's super inspiring how so many businesses begin with that sort of in intention yeah and so it launched here in 2017 is there parts of the business that you're like man we never thought that particular product was going to go the way that it did like is there one sort of All-Star in the mix or it's the whole skincare line really oh no they're a few All-Stars even though I think they're all stars because they're my babies and I literally every formulation I put my heart and soul into each one and I make sure that it's I'm more than 100 happy with it when we launch it but people go nuts around only glow face oil because it is like liquid gold it really helps your skin um it just like balances the pH of the skin and it sits beautifully underneath makeup it helps with like super sensitive skin conditions and dry skin even oily skin it helps balance the pH so that is a wonderful oil it has like sea buckthorne no knee rose hips is it um base or is it like your top layer oh okay cool so I have it on now oh cool um but I have like underneath I have all the other layers yeah which we can talk about yeah what are your layers so I'll tell you that but the other All-Star product that I'm super proud of that no one expected to be an All-Star product is our turmeric two in one it's like a scrub and it deeply detoxifying mask in one it's like an instant facial in a tube and people once they try it they are hooked for Life men and women they literally like I've never introduced it to someone and they're just like oh my God like this is my Holy Grail product and that is my baby because I remember speaking to the chemist well first of all I spoke to my team when we were having conversations about what products will we launch next because generally we do two to three products a year and we have to kind of limit I have so many ideas but I have to limit them because of cash flow reasons and yeah yeah you have to be smart about it and then you have a Five-Year Plan of all your product Innovation and so we sit there and sometimes I'm like oh I really want to do this and I'm the only one excited about it at the time and they're like looking at me like what about this trend and you know this thing and I'm like I don't care about Trends intuitively I just feel like I need to do this and that's what it was like with this turmeric scrub I was like I want to create basically a microdermabrasion scrub that you can use as a microdermabrasion scrub in the shower you know just to give yourself like a little quick refresh or you can use it as a deeply detoxifying mask leave it on and uh let it pull out the impurities then it dries and you feel it kind of like really stiff on your face kind of like you can't move your face and then you wash it off and then you feel like you've just had the best facial ever so people use it in two different ways I mostly my husband and I use it as the microdermabrasion scrub because like I don't really have that much time to leave it sitting on my face just to be real like I just I do sometimes if say for instance the kids are asleep and my husband's at a work dinner I'll get in the bathtub I'll put it on my face then I'll let it deeply you know dry so sometimes I'll put it on like before I have a shower for 10 minutes or something and then I'll hop in the shower and you do that but you do see like really crazy results if you do leave it on as a mask because it's got the turmeric it has Aspen bark it has um so it has like natural purifying ingredients and anti-inflammatory and exfoliating and it's pretty amazing did you already know about those ingredients just in your own learning or was it more that you said I want something that's sort of certified organic I want something that's calming something and then your team said okay here are 15 options like how how is the camera okay so they're the ones that like I I say I knew I wanted it to include turmeric because I loved turmeric and I believe in the internal and external beauty benefits of like Powerhouse ingredients like the Noni which is in every single product or kakadu Plum which is the highest naturally occurring vitamin C and I'm really passionate about health and wellness um I studied at Integrative Nutrition so I am a certified health coach so I know about different yeah and I did another course recently that Stanford was offering through Coursera on health and and wellness and I just continually want to learn more and more like about health and wellness and how we can be the best versions of ourselves and like be the healthiest versions of ourselves and like feel the best because when we feel the best we give our best absolutely so how can we kind of look at everything holistically yes and that's my passion Mind Body Spirit yeah definitely and I've tried to incorporate that into quora but that's like a whole nother layer sometimes people like what are you talking about because I use crystals in the formulation yeah my crystal filtration process and some products contain crystals then I have positive words of affirmation on the back of every product we use aromatherapy instead of artificial fragrance and it's like a whole thing yeah but first and foremost the products are certified organic yeah and give you the results they need yeah so you said you'd tell us you're like oh delays yeah so in the morning or at night let's let's do both okay I'm a nerd enough to like care I love skin care so in the morning so when I wake up I do like this is like not really part of it but it is part of it just like a little meditation and then I go in dry body brush after I do that so do you do that every day yeah okay see this okay I'm gonna ask and that's a lot of questions because I'm not doing it every day but meditation oh dry brushing oh dry brushing yeah because my husband wakes up at like five or five thirty so it's between 5 and 5 30 that we're awake every day depending on the schedule got it and then the kids don't wake up lately they've been sleeping till seven nice so that's really nice because they're now three and just turned five and twelve okay because as soon as they wake up they come running into my room and then it's all systems go and it's all about them so I really value that time before they wake up and I'm actually quite thankful to my husband for waking me up early because otherwise if he's not there or if he's not waking me up yeah I would have been like snooze button right you know well I always say if your kids wake you up you're starting the day off on the wrong foot yeah because you're like starting on defense you're like yeah it's better to like calm yourself and then go into mom mode yeah so that's why I try to wake up do a little 20-minute meditation do my dry body brushing all over that has been the Lifesaver for me energetically I feel like you like it's like Obviously good for circulation and lymphatic drainage and like they say it's great for cellulite um and all of that but energetically as well like if you've had a bad dream or something you just like body brushing yeah any bad energy and just like restarting the day I love it and then um I get in the shower I cleanse my skin using now turmeric foaming cleanser which contains uh turmeric obviously and it has in their Palo Santo nice which clears your energy and cleans your skin at the same time it also has in there like um a sugar isomer so basically when you're cleansing your skin you're not stripping your skin so it's kind of like foaming cleanser without stripping which is great and you and it also has in that peppermint to help control sebum levels but in addition to that the peppermint gives you this fresh burst of energy which I love aromatherapy for that I literally in my handbag have some peppermint oil because I'm addicted to peppermint oil and how it wakes you up uplifting and energizing it is I might actually have to put it yeah put it on now you've talked about it I'm like now everyone's like gonna be thinking about it so I keep it in here let me see it's my new favorite thing it's um should probably make some for Cora but right now I'm using um that brand size this is called peppermint Halo this is one of my hacks oh so you do it back here you do it like behind your neck and kind of like around your ears nice it's my earrings and you can do it on your temples and then I put it on my hands like that if you want some yeah and then you just kind of like that's nice you don't mind if I put it on oh no I don't mind three deep breaths that to me is just like it's so like energizing and grounding but eat through all at the same time it's so easy to so easy so easy anyway so all of our products contain essential oils for their skin benefits and then also the sensory benefits I'm very much like a sensory person yeah so a tactile person too so you do the shower oh yeah sorry we haven't even gotten past the shops I'm genuinely curious about what so in the shower we've got the foaming cleanser then I'll do the little bit of the turmeric scrub sometimes I mix the two together if I just want like a little light exfoliation whereas my husband just like goes for the straight for the scrub yeah then we we have a body wash which is great for the whole family I use that on myself my husband uses that um then I get out of the shower and then I put the body lotion the body oil all over my body do you do lotion then oil yeah yeah body lotion then oil um and then and I put it everywhere it's really good the body the body oil is really good to prevent stretch marks especially in them when you're pregnant I use it throughout my pregnancies cool um to yeah and also helps with any stretch marks if you have any it helps with like scarring and stuff because of the rosy boiling there um and then on my skin I missed my face with the minty Mist it's the minty mineral Mist which is great to like prep your skin for the next steps and it also has Palo Santa and peppermint in there because I'm addicted and it has a little aquamarine crystal in the actual bottle um and then I put on the vitamin C serum which is it contains kakadu Plum and acerola Cherry and lemon peel ferment and orange peel ferment and it really helped me with so much with pigmentation I don't know about you but every time I got pregnant I got like really dark pigmentation yeah it was just like boom and I was like whoa what just happened so I was able to use my vitamin C serum throughout the last two pregnancies because that's I didn't have it available the first pregnancy and it just saved my skin helped brighten the pigmentation so much it um it's won multiple Awards but all of my products like have won multiple Awards including many Best of Beauty Awards from Allure and you know how hard they are yeah so I'm really proud of them because they're like my little babies yeah um and after vitamin C then I apply our new serum which is this retinol alternative serum which you can apply morning and night it's gentle it doesn't cause any redness I'm gonna sound so dumb I've never used retinol I don't know what it's for okay so retinols for wrinkles okay and it is like traditionally known as like a chemical treatment for wrinkles to kind of resurface the skin improve the texture of Fine Lines wrinkles firmness of skin um and that's why I wanted to create a product that basically was certified organic a retinol alternative it's the first certified organic retinol alternative in the world and what's incredible is we specifically tested we did some clinical studies on women who would die hard retinal uses like love the retinol and traditional chemical retinol because we wanted to see do they prefer that traditional chemical retinol or our product and where do they get the best results so we documented the whole thing it was a four week trial mostly retinol trials are done over eight weeks but we did it over four weeks because with my serum you can use it morning and night because it's gentle enough and so we thought okay let's see I want like the quicker results and more impactful results and the before and after photos are incredible with deep fine lines like it completely like minimizing them in the forehead um all around here um the lines are incredibly you just notice a huge difference the firmness of the skin one was Wild on this lady's neck it was like really hanging and then it was lifted oh wow after four weeks and I was like okay this is wild we can't forget our chest and our neck when we're doing our skin care yeah and so I've been using that serum morning and night and I just have loved the results that I'm getting um it really really helps also with any kind of scarring that you have um it also helps with acne the retinols like in this retinol alternative we make it with bacuccio which is a natural alternative that a lot of people use but we added not only because you all we added Alfalfa extract in addition to the baguchiol and then on top of that we added acai plant stem cells so the combination of that makes it actually five times more powerful than traditional retinol on it so so it's working on Aging that you currently have already like have like the damaged Parts but then it's working with the acai plant stem cells on preventing further aging nice so I just thought to myself why not get this like Powerhouse of a product out there with the proven results and show people like you don't need to compromise your health to get really incredible results like you can be healthy and you know get incredible results for your skin so do you put oh so I'm still not finished with my routine okay so then after that serum then I put on either either the active algae moisturizer or the turmeric low moisture moisturizer I have them both there and I love them it's interesting because I thought that I'd always just go 100 for the turmeric glow moisturizer because it's like a thicker richer moisturizer um but lately the active algae has been doing it for me which is more of like a bouncy gel lightweight moisturizer so it's like I sometimes what like today I did is I used the active algae on my skin then I put the Noni glow face oil after that um and then I do the eye cream and the eye oil um but at night then I'll use the turmeric glow moisturizer because it's like a luxurious Rich cream so you're doing the eye cream and the eye oil in the daytime in the day okay and at night time okay and then you put makeup on that yep yeah that's what I did today oh wow okay and then sometimes I wash off but I didn't have time to go out today because I had to go to another meeting before this and then wash out like with all your serums on and then you do makeup or on that day okay yeah Okay and like go upwards got it and we have a rose quartz gouache that we make at Cora oh cool yeah and I actually designed the whole shape of it and the curve of it um yeah so anyway that's so the serum the anti-aging the anti Gene retinol alternative serum then the um moisturizer today was active algae then the nylon face oil which we already spoke about and that yeah the eye cream and the eye oil and how do you approach I'm assuming that this is part of it because you talk about health and wellness and inside and outside how do you approach your nutrition from the perspective of like wanting to maintain like the Vitality yeah because inside out yeah because I think so many people don't listen they don't get that they don't get that the connection you can see on someone's skin when they're not taking care of themselves yeah so are there things that you're like stay away from this or I make sure I have a lot of this in anything I'm eating because it's really good for skin or oh I love talking about this and I could talk about it forever um so in the mornings I like to start my day with water with lemon so like one whole lemon squeezed in water I used to do like 32 ounces of water but now I'm just down to like 16 ounces like a big glass yeah because then I have 32 ounces of celery juice cold pressed every day okay and you do a whole a whole lemon a whole lemon and water in water and that's to purify detoxify like what's it can actually alkalizes your system so it's acidic before it goes in once it goes into system it turns more alkaline and um kind of cleanses and clears out like when you're sleeping and you think you just you're laying there and you kind of want to flush the system a little bit so it kind of does that and then I have the celery juice after which is very alkalizing as well and anti-inflammatory um and it's been a game changer that 32 ounces of celery juice every day and then after that I have this is I mean this is kind of wild I have like three tablespoons of Irish CMOS is it powder or it's like it looks like it's a gel oh it's a gel yeah oh okay it's really not tasty okay and wait where did when did you get into this um that's more of a recent thing um and prior to that I was just doing aloe vera like a shot of aloe vera and then sometimes I mix it with pineapple juice as well but all of these things are just kind of like layering your good gut health because actually when I was pregnant with my second child my gut health got a little unbalanced and so I had to like really find things that would Soothe My digestive system and keep it on track and at one point I even ate purely like vegan vegetarian for like two years oh wow because you were just trying to figure out what was going on or what would make you feel the best yeah but then but then recently I just did the gut Reset Program which includes like bone broth and like meat and whatnot but kind of staying away from grains um with Dr will Cole so it's like but prior to that I was doing um Anthony William just like very plant-based everything and the Moss where did um what does that do so um a friend of mine oh yeah yeah is it is it is it the juices kez was bringing coffee oh thanks come on in oh good and then we have a package for you so I can show you hopefully I mean they don't have everything available it's for us so we can send you the rest I think that might be Jack who's coffee where's your coffee I don't know okay I was like oh thanks it would be so unlike for him to not oh thanks I see I just keep going green yeah just one green after another almost called you babe that would have been weird yeah I've been together a long time but not that long oh my goodness wow oh oh what look this is I've been drinking like creation for a while and um guess what they have gratitude on their Lids so that is what I have on my bottles I have positive words love joy Bliss whatever nice um to really amplify the experience I guess yeah because everything we think everything we read has an effect on us on a cellular levels absolutely totally agree um and gratitude is a really high vibration absolutely but bliss is the state that we all want to be in I want to be in Bliss right now I mean let's try yeah all right we're doing pretty well we're doing pretty well drinking now green juice and smooth which ones do you drink from there and will you drink both of these like it's just like a if you can't tell I'm quite big on drinks no I love my like celery my as I was saying the aloe um the CMOS the now we've got this one which is pineapple cucumber spinach Romaine parsley turmeric there's that turmeric again aloe vera chia seeds chlorophyll um I just kind of got this because I was on the run today whereas at home I would like to make it you know myself but it's it's good to know that you can pick it up absolutely um are you into it feels like you are so I'm like leading the witness a little bit but kind of experimenting with oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I dig it anything for health yeah I'll give it a go so how what's your experimentation process like let's say you were doing the aloe shot and then you maybe heard about the Irish moss CMOS and so then are you like okay I'll give it six weeks like how do you test new things to see if you're getting the results that you want it's a good question I just kind of add it to my routine so now I've added the iris CMOS in addition to the aloe got it oh okay okay so it's just one more thing it's just one more thing okay I'm like oh okay I dig it I I'm doing it but definitely not at this level so I find it really inspiring and then in in coffee which I have a love hate relationship with coffee so I actually had a coffee this morning but it was after all of those drinks but I go through stages sometimes of being off coffee and what I do drink then is dandelion oh and dandelion it kind of has a similar taste to coffee so when you love the experience and the flavor and you can make like a dandelion cappuccino it's really delicious um but you're obviously not getting the caffeine here yeah um but it tastes really good and it's a liver cleanser down the line so I've gone off coffee before I did it probably six or nine months ago and it's so horrendous at the beginning but then you feel so amazing yeah and you're like oh well but I love it so much yeah she says that she drinks more coffee yeah uh I'm checking out this one it's got smoothie so you do you have the morning juices at what point do you allow coffee if you're gonna have it it'll be after hours okay after like right after you have to wait a certain amount of time you really should wait okay half an hour after you finished all of that got it yeah and um is that the end of the morning nutritional yeah yeah sometimes after that I may have a banana or I may have like the heavy metal detox smoothie but it depends I might just have that like because I'm trying to give my body what it needs to like flush out and eliminate whatever it needs to eliminate and then still have enough energy so it's either like a banana if I'm on the go or another drink which is like a smoothie which has like wild blueberries it has banana it has fresh orange juice it has um dolls cilantro that's like that's called The Heavy Metal detox smoothie on medical medium do you change up the nutrition based on where you are in your cycle like do you I should I do intuitively yeah like sort of like I need like I feel like like last night I was like mmm some chocolate almonds yeah you're like I need something a little yeah those like who chocolate almonds I know I love I love like what with the sea salt I'm like what I'm addicted I was like how am I eating this whole bag right now it's actually better to just not have it in the house but it is such a good little treat any of those bars are so yummy it's like the nicest little I never thought I would care about dark chocolate but I know I like that brand a lot oh that was so good yum um so so yeah depending on my cycle and then I actually will crave more like of the bone broth or the red meat more like Savory things yeah based on yeah that makes sense I generally do like Savory are you aiming at a lot of greens like is there just in terms of thinking through like I know everything care no but I think like through the lens of like the skin and how it looks and how the idea of being like starting here right starting with what's going on the body yeah so is it we're focusing on things that are leading to inflammatory anti-inflammatory like turmeric like cook with turmeric a lot yeah like every day okay is that something you always like when did you get into this or have you always been since you were a little girl and your mom got sick so I yeah so since when my mom was sick we started thinking about it even more and then my nan introduced me to Noni juice when I was like 13 as well and I literally was like drinking Noni every day I have been pretty much since um since I was 13 and that works on a cellular level to like repair cells so they have sometimes um I've seen the studies where you'll someone will be on Noni juice like and you'll see the cells before and they look a little abnormal and then after Noni juice for like a month and then you see the cells they're more normal so I thought if it's doing that internally imagine what it would do for your skin and that's why every single Cora Organics product contains Noni but in addition to that the super exciting part that I think a lot of people don't understand and they're learning more now um is that certified organic ingredients have up to 60 more antioxidants than regular ingredients and because the soil between certified organic and just organic you know when you if it's just organic it's not certified so it hasn't been through the rigorous process of an outside certification body ensuring that it truly is what it says it is so you can look on the back of every one of my packages and it'll tell you specifically like 99.7 of this comes from a natural origin and you know yeah certain percent is water and this percent is certified organic and this percent is natural and it's very transparent and like that's all I wanted for myself and my family and I wasn't able to find it there were products out there that at the time um we looked and they would claim that they were natural or they claimed they were organic when you read on the back of them it back then and I don't know I'm pretty sure the rules are pretty similar back then you could have just one organic ingredient and call it and then say this organic lotion yeah but there are rules in California that you're not able to do that which is really great like you have to be at least 70 organic to be able to put that in California but the rest around the world like it's a little bit dodgy yeah and there's a lot of green washing and that's why we want that certification and then that um outside like kind of like big brother looking over everything that we do from manufacturing to our ingredient sourcing to everything um that we're doing is like looked over and approved by someone else even all of our bottles and packaging have to be approved by them awesome yeah well it's a big auditing process but it makes it worthwhile in the end absolutely and it keeps everyone like on their toes do you feel like when you started it because it's been a while what'd you say 2009 when I launched so 2006 was the concept oh wow then we did three years of lag testing did people get it like in Australia I mean yeah yeah maybe not so much here but there it was much more common to care about to get the ingredients yeah and they don't get it here when you launched in 2017 yeah uh yeah I mean I think they understood um the importance like what you put on your skin soaks in but they didn't understand the full efficacy so then we like because originally we obviously um did all of our like regulation testing and whatnot but we weren't doing the scientific studies to prove the efficacy whereas now we're doing and investing time in the scientific studies to show like the before and after and the clinical trials and then the Consumer Testing which really shows how powerful these products are like there's no BS here it is just super beneficial for your skin and like your skin is going to thank you for using that and you see the clear results so it feels good to help people in a healthy way when you were when uh and it sounds like I'm making a big switch in Direction but I'm not I'm going to tie it in um how old were you when you started modeling I was 13. okay so were you able to pull the things that you learned from your mom from your nand like were you able to pull those nutritional values those holistic values into that lifestyle with you so what changed for me so what was interesting is when I was about to eat something whenever I go to the fridge or whenever I would think what am I going to eat I looked at it from like what nutrients am I going to get from this I never thought of like calories or anything I was like what nutrients am I gonna get from this so if I eat this what are the nutrients I'm gonna get and how's it going to make me feel so I didn't want to eat something at the end of the day really the majority of the time unless I know it's going to be beneficial for my body but then I do say it's really important to have that balance 80 20. so 80 you're like focused on the nutrients and then 20 you're like well enjoy life is you know right you have to enjoy it yeah and you have to have those moments where you eat the cake or eat the french fries or eat the really bad Indulgence of mine which is fried chicken but every now and then delicious yeah yeah like it's not all the time but it's important for me to really enjoy those experiences with people like whatever it might be that and like if you say like say for instance like someone will say come over you know where then they'll say oh do you have any dietary requirements and I'm I'm not going to say oh it has to be organic and please make a plan I'm like no sure whatever like I like to enjoy whatever people are serving me so when we're in you know in Europe we'll eat like the pasta and everything and I'll be like ooh delicious but like then you know how to like scale it back and I think at the end of the day education is key so if you know at the end of the day like you're going to make healthier choices when you get home then you can really enjoy yourself a little more and like have that balance in your life when you do eat when you are indulgent do you feel like because with me if I'm I would in my own brain I would sort of call it like eating on plan like eating in a way that I know I'm gonna feel the best I'm gonna have the most energy the least brain fog it's a pretty clean way of eating but then if I win because I totally do indulge it's almost to the point where it's not worth the Indulgence because of how it wrecks my body and I don't feel like my boyfriend has I feel like he bounces back so much easier than I do but I'm just like I'm bloated for like four days and I'm like was this burrito worth it um do you feel like you bounce back quickly or do you feel like it no it hit you hard I feel like I bounce back pretty quickly just because I I feel like I put in a lot of work yeah most of the time yeah and I mean the 80 20 thing is kind of like what I promote but if I'm really honest it's probably more 90 10 yeah but so if I'm like going to indulge I'm like ooh yummy like and I and I will indulge in a way that's like a little bit not like a lot that's the thing I'm for sure getting that piece wrong because yeah I'm like because it's like we're going ham like we're here like we're eating the whole thing because I'm like oh this is your one as if it's the last time I will ever get to have tortilla chips so I need to like that's a really messed up ideology that I need to like release for myself of like no that's not real like you can have that like honestly what I tell myself is like whenever I want something I can have it yeah so I'm like oh I feel like chocolate okay I'll have a little butt yeah and then you feel like I don't need anymore because if I eat more then I'm not gonna feel so good exactly instead of eating the whole bar of chocolate you'll have like two pieces I did um sorry my brain just jumped as you were talking about it because I wanted to ask you this earlier do you work out and when does that come into your schedule in the like f the ju like are you working out I guess you wouldn't be fasted because you would have had your juices but where does that fit in and is it every day sorry I do 100 questions no I do I love to work out and I think it's key to energy and vitality and as you're aging now I just turned 40. I feel like working out it's your birthday April 20th oh January 9th oh yeah 1983. yeah yeah so this is your 40th year yeah how do you feel about it I love it yeah me too I feel like I'm embracing it wholeheartedly I'm like bring it on I'm like these are these are the good years Oprah said every year she turned a new decade she'd be like 40s are the it's the decade ladies this is the one you're gonna this is the 50s of the decade like every time Oprah turns a new decade so I'm trying to channel that news I love that and I just yeah that's amazing um so I feel like so I've been a big so basically if we just ruined ruined I've been very active my whole life because I've just I was a farm girl growing up so it was like riding horses running around on the farm like you could never just was climbing trees like you could never kind of yeah get me to be super still like I wouldn't just sit there and watch TV I'd be outside and I'd love to like run and I'd love to swim and you know so and then I was a gymnast and I was competing as a gymnast like and I loved that and then I got into netball touch football basketball at school and then I got a bit too tall for gymnastics so then I got into yoga then the yoga Obsession really has been my anchor throughout my whole life cool because what I love about it is you're I feel like the mind-body connection is really nice and constantly we're in this mode of just like doing doing whereas yoga feels a little more you're in the flow of being yes and that's really good for our adrenals and that can also help with like you know maintaining your kind of like I don't know just like maintaining your equilibrium within yourself yeah but lately and then so I've been very much into yoga and pilates and my whole life um but then uh lately I've been more into weightlifting which I never thought I would be into but I love it yeah and also uh running which I never thought I'd be into have you done a race yet no you should I mean yeah with all that time on my hands but it would be fun I believe that every mother especially should run a long distance race okay because there's something so powerful and maybe you have this in other experiences in your life but I think there's something so powerful about doing something that literally nobody can help you accomplish a run my childhood yes that when I ran the LA Marathon for the first time yeah I thought I was going to die I was not I would never have called myself a runner it was a challenge I made to myself and my only goal I didn't care how long it took me my only goal was I refused to walk yeah so I was like I'm gonna run 26 miles and I really thought I'm going to lose it and in the last like two miles which felt so impossible I channeled my oldest son he's 16. I channeled 52 hours of Labor yeah and I was like [ __ ] if you if you can go through that you can run you can do this like yeah and so I just it is one of the most I would say giving birth to Jackson and Crossing that Finish Line are two key moments in my life that I tap into all the time yeah so if you like running it's a Gateway start with a 5k okay and then you'll be like okay and then you'll do a half and then you'll be an ultra marathon runner and you can say that you got it from me thanks I love this so I literally never thought that I would love running yeah and it's really meditative it is but one day I woke up and I was like I just this is so weird why do I want to run yeah it was like 39 at the time and here I am where am I running yeah that's pretty cool and I got into it and now I just love it but I do like a run walk a run yes yeah like a run so do you change up the do you change up during the week what you're doing do you sort of get sick of things and then bring in other stuff um I try to be consistent with like making sure I work out six days a week and then I add the run walk and I'll do like a minimum run walk 20 minutes a day yeah and then I like to do the sauna hot and cold at least if it's just like 10 or 15 minutes super hot and then cold shower so you're doing run walk 20 minutes a day is that that's kind of like in my schedule when it can fit in most of the time it's after I drop the kids off are you familiar with uh Peter attia longevity oh I feel like you oh I mean it would take your experimenting with health too oh wow other level um where's he from Peter attia is I think I don't know where he's from originally but he's based in Austin now he's a huge like anybody who's interested in longevity and how to live what about David Sinclair I I mention it because one of his things is that every day you have to do I think he calls it zone two so you have to be in a level of cardio for at least 20 minutes oh good where your um you can still talk if you don't want to like it's you're right on the edge yeah you're just like almost too hard you're just like please don't talk to me right now exactly when you're trying to do it and the kids are like Mom Mom and I'm like yeah yeah a couple more minutes yeah he has a new book which I'm forgetting the name of but it's really it's really popular okay I need to write it down yeah I feel like I mean it's this I know because my boyfriend has been methodically working his way through oh I'm going through this this is awesome yeah I love learning new things but okay sorry I interrupted you for the millionth time doing um so you're getting the run walk in and then you're oh but so in the morning so I'll do a workout before the kids wake up and I have an like I have a few different apps oh nice so um lately I've been using this app called crush it I'm from Sonata and what I like about it is it's like a 20 minute kind of Weight Workout and I'll do it sometimes two or three times so I'll do it like but at the minimum you can just do it 20 minutes like depending on your timing and so I like to do that in my bedroom just in case the kids wake up I'm there you're like but I have my weights there and uh I use six pound weights for that and then it's just like a really good way to kind of start your day yeah and then I also um I have other um so between Tracy Anderson or Megan rube um they're online programs I have ballet beautiful that I'll do which is more of like you know matte Pilates I also have like a yoga teacher that sometimes I'll FaceTime with or I can do it on my own she's also a Kundalini yoga app that I sometimes do do you still go to group classes or is that not So Much Anymore yeah I used to do you miss it or you don't care no it's kind of convenient doing it in my room by myself yeah like when I'm like there for the kids and the time it takes to get to a class and come back it's just it's not it's not necessarily like beneficial to my yeah day but if I didn't have three kids maybe that would be great you know totally and a business to run right right you know um do you schedule the day like are the um like pulling in work oh you guys work from home yeah so you and I'm getting really granular with your I love something oh yeah how do you do what you do calendars so are you strict with like what kind of meetings you will take at what time of day like are you like I only want to do a brainstorm in the morning or I only want to do so we have like our set meetings yeah that we have like um in the calendar and I try to work Tuesday Wednesday uh Thursday like those are my like I'll drop the kids off but then you know I won't be able to pick them up because those are my work days but then Monday and Fridays and obviously the weekend uh yeah with the kids yeah so that's like drop off and pick up and then when you have a company you kind of never really switch off yeah for sure but that's the way that it's supposed to work yeah in a way that's more balanced for me because my kids are my number one priority right and my husband of course right um what does the workload look like for you as you're sort of doing all the things you're seeing well and you're you know who's been a dreamer and oh no it's a lot I mean I do feel like it's very busy and it is like scheduled to schedule to schedule to schedule to schedule to schedule but it it kind of flows in a way that what I like to do is I'll like map out like if I can map out as much in the month in advance it's better and then the week before I can look at it and be like okay maybe move this or move that and then I don't like to look at it after then I'll just look at it kind of the night before yeah yeah to be like okay this is what's happening tomorrow because otherwise I'll get to worried because there's just so much always happening yeah so I just should be like okay so I'll map it out and then plan it and then it's really important to put in like travel time or like pick up and drop off time or everything like is timing yeah and I just feel like the world is just moving so fast and our children are growing up so fast so one thing I really try to do even on my work days is kind of make sure that it finishes unless I have an event that it finishes in time so I can do wine down with my kids and to be there for you know um dinner they have for dinner at five and then they have a bath at 5 30 and then yeah like in in like closed you know in their bedroom like Windows everything's shut and like everything's dark and cozy cocoon-like by six and then asleep by 6 30. so I make sure that I and we read books and then we sing prayers and you know yeah go to sleep yeah I mean they go to sleep yeah and then I have a bit more time to like yeah depending on what's happening with my husband's schedule and the schedule is so key it's so it's so key time management yeah because if you want to be able to accomplish all the things that you're hoping to accomplish in a day or to show up as a mom the way that you want to yeah I and not feel rushed yeah you can't you really can't leave it to chance oh no it's like schedule It's gotta like my schedule's color-coded my schedule my husband's schedule the kids schedule yeah yeah I'm multiple calendars yeah and I think you know I have talked about this schedule for my kids a lot over the years and people would always be like oh it just feels so intense and I'm like no it's so important it's important to have a routine and they need to know oh they love it like when my exactly um when I got divorced years ago that was so crucial for them was knowing exactly what to expect all the time where they would be who would be there so that they didn't have to feel worried about anything right exactly so um yeah that's what my grandma told me she literally told me when I was pregnant remember with Flynn she said it's really important that you have a routine like a consistent routine with him I know you're traveling you're working and whatnot but try and maintain a routine and it was interesting because it wasn't until I had my second child that it really sunk in how true that was because my first child was kind of very go with the flow and whenever he was with me I mean when you have one it's kind of like that and I do hear that about the first trial yep a lot yep but then my second child was like whoa where did he come from yep I literally took my second son to the pediatrician at six weeks old and I was bawling and I was like there's something wrong with this baby like you had the same he won't sleep he's like fussy and the doctor was like oh no no no this is normal yeah the first baby he's the freak like that's not a normal baby and those firstborns that are easy they really trick us they really do you're like I was like hold on a second I thought I was such a good mother yeah what happened yeah yeah but by the way my uh just turned five-year-old on the weekend he is amazing now but he was my second child and he was um definitely very a different experience to my first child he was a little more yeah like just didn't want to sleep and didn't want to be as flexible with you know everything he was like no this is my way and you get to be done this way it's pretty wild and the routine helped a lot with him it is because it's like this nope we're gonna we're gonna get it man we're gonna just keep doing the same thing until you until you feel yeah yeah and now he loves it loves the routine are there anything is there anything that you do when you're traveling for your nutrition for your skin care that counterbalances the travel like are there any great tips with because you I'm sure I mean have traveled I can't even imagine fire miles you're rocking yeah um and we all set all of our Flats so yeah it's also very important and actually core Organics is a carbon neutral brand cool where carbon neutral certified so very well said everything we do and actually I was one of the first to introduce the refill pods that you twist in and out and I was very proud of that I literally sat there with the manufacturer and was like I want to create this jar that you put in a little pod that's like a little coffee pod that's fully recyclable Twisted in and out and then you just have this beautiful jar that you just buy the jar once right refill pods thereafter and they were like oh genius yeah next thing you know everyone's copying me but it is better for the environment so it's better for everyone um anyway where will we travel travel so when we travel I actually do bring my juicer with me um because I just feel like I need my celery juice yeah that's like a non-negotiable and my husband thinks I'm mad I'm like I'd rather have my celery juice than like more shoes yeah like I'll just take you know one pair of shoes if I can take my celery yeah yeah um and depending on like how long we're going for or where we're going but that's something that I like to travel with what else um obviously my skin care and once I get on the plane I clean my skin and um that minty mist is a lifesaver the Noni glow face oil and the turmeric moisturizer oh in the sleeping mask I forgot to tell you about that that is a game changer yeah tell me about that so the Sleepy mask is like one of my key Secrets it's got natural hyaluronic acid in there and it just like locks in everything and then it dries as a translucent Veil so it doesn't like stay like jelly-like and rub off on your pillow it literally dries and locks in everything that you've already put on your skin so you can do your full skincare routine then apply the Sarah the um sleeping mask and then it just like keeps it all and then you wake it up in the morning and you clean your skin you're like oh I'm so like dewy nice and then you know what nice because it's that sleeping mask and I keep that next to my bed so do you put that on a new flight you yeah on the flight it's amazing nice okay so we're staying hydrated we're drinking our celery juice another thing I do when I get to a new place I try to go outside and get the kids to go outside take their shoes off and put their feet in the grass yeah get a little sunshine in their hands like like just to reset to that time zone yeah depending on how long we're going to be there yeah if we're not there for very long I try to keep them on this more similar time zone yeah to what they had like sometimes if we go to Paris and it's just for a week or 10 days I'll try to keep them a little more on La time yeah um just so they don't have to like have such a big transition back absolutely um and there are they in school yet oh yeah oh okay okay yeah but how preschool okay preschool yeah so that's so kindergarten kindergarten starts in you know September how are you feeling about that exciting okay good because my um 12 year olds went to the same school and then my husband went to the same school oh cool so I feel like a very good connection with the school that they go to and nice and it just feels right so yeah cool and who's excited about it that's important and he knows a couple of kids that are going to be there and we've had like a couple of like play dates at the school so he's really happy nice yeah uh going into summer yeah going into summer which sometimes changes our skin and what's happening are there anything or is there anything that you're like hey as you go in for listeners who are thinking like okay you've given us a ton of advice yeah is there anything for that oh there's a lot [Laughter] but one thing I think is really important to prep your skin is exfoliating so we have an incredible the turmeric exfoliating scrub for your face we have for your body as well oh nice and it makes your body tingle all over you can you know do it to yourself or you can do it to your partner it's quite nice like you know what I mean like scrub their body in the shower you know why not um and then we have an incredible self tanner mmm um that's all natural certified organic nice yeah um this is a random question the body oil uh but I I'm not a huge fan of self tanners because I don't like the smell oh this is amazing okay great owl smells like lavender no way it doesn't smell like self-dana and it gives you it's a gradual tan so it's not like you've suddenly are like super bronze yeah just you apply it like three days and then you'll get the color that you like oh nice even you can put it on your face oh okay I want to check that out yeah I'll send it to you okay yeah that'd be great um did you say that there I thought it would be cute if there are products there you should because we have the video you should like show you what they are yeah yeah yeah let me see here oh yeah so this is so this is what oh shoot they're videoing don't worry so as I said I sorry as I was saying I did have your little bag but then I came straight from another appointment and came straight here so um we popped by Sephora and got you what they had available they're foaming cleanser was sold out but we do have a little mini turmeric scrub oh nice okay so not a big one but they had the mini available no let's see here see Mind Body skin and this is the little one that I put I said um that you can use and your partner can use this is what my husband and I use that's the like two in one scrub which is amazing you can see instant results awesome um this is our newest plant stem cell retinal alternative zero okay I get to try that yeah it is incredible it's beautiful as well so you can have a little routine here this is the 90 glowy face oil oh good I'm glad that one I'm I'm pretty excited about yeah this is really good for any dry skin conditions anyone who has like eczema rosacea Stripes yeah I have rosacea see so yeah this is gonna help I'm very this is like a game changer I think you will be addicted cool any sensitive skin super super nourishing and helpful let's see what else we have in here we have the turmeric oil moisturizer I'm getting hooked up and this was this is Katy Perry's favorite moisturizer she made me do an Instagram live because she wanted to tell the whole world how obsessed she was with this that's cool and she was like she's tried every product out there and she was like this gives me the glow that I need it doesn't make make her break out because she had like you know acne prone skin and she wanted to have the glow nice this is like her favorite and she's obsessed so awesome it'll be just like Katy Perry just like Katy Perry and we have the eye cream here and they are oil oh gosh you guys so so the eye cream I'm just unpackage them all for you you're unboxing and also I'm going to be how to put them on properly yes so this is the little refill pod so same with the turmeric moisturizer so you buy the glass jar once and then the refill pods thereafter cute so you just pop them in and they're smart and so we you know made a few products incorporating this and then so you actually just put this on more properly oh there you go so what you do is you just open it you want me to open yeah sure so you open it like this and I'm I'll make sure that I don't put my fingers in your jar I can use this and then you just put a little of the cream okay just like kind of Pat it in around the eye area I might as well make it even get both sides yeah and they have different ingredients um this is the vitamin C eye cream so it's like really potent vitamin C and then this is the Noni glow eye oil and the eye oil has a rose quartz rollable um and it has um in their natural retinal alternative called kahai oil it has tomato extract coffee extract in this one so the layering of them both are serving like different purposes and some people are addicted to both some people have a preference over one one over the other oh I use them both and I like to use the cream and then the eye oil over the top but that's the rose quartz rollerball there got it and then you feel it I don't want to put it on my eyes but that's because this is going to be yours and then do you put it in the same spot yeah you put it all around I do all around oh okay like up here too okay okay yep all right and you use that morning and night both of them morning and night nice the little eye oil and the eye cream nice I'm so excited yeah but they work on like helping smooth the fine lines and wrinkles and and just to hydrate the area I actually need a new serum for rosacea so I'm excited that's this yeah yeah because I just started trying um oh what is her name and well um May oh it's a it's a skin care thing and she's like suit oh God I don't know uh I thought you might know um and it feels really lovely it was I mean it's and does it have you noticed a difference I don't feel like it's touching the red I feel like it's really keeping everything super moisturized which is nice but it's not it's just like super moisturized red skin so I'm like okay this is not gonna work well this could help yeah I'm excited really yeah this is so fantastic thank you for hanging out with me and talking about nutrition and health and skin care and all the stuff thank you peeking out yeah I love it with me and we're both like 83 yeah it's our 40th Year yes anything can happen I love this um for people who are listening and want to grab the Skin Care learn more like tell us where we can go to find out about Cora so coral organics.com and then obviously all social medias core Organics or Miranda Kerr um and they can go to Sephora we're also in goop cool and yeah there you go yeah but we're in actually Sephora worldwide so that's a good one or core organics.com we ship to over 160 countries cool cool and we're all going to start drinking celery juice now that's right Health as well