Jocko Podcast #486

Introduction

• Host: Jocko Willink
• Discussion focuses on Task Unit Bruiser, SEAL Team 5, and experiences in Ramadi, Iraq.

Context

• October 2006: Transition of Tasking from Task Unit Bruiser to SEAL Team 5.
• SEAL Team 5 had been reading after-action reports from Task Unit Bruiser's deployment in Ramadi.

Briefing to SEAL Team 5

• Jocko discussed operational tempo and strategic relationships with the Army and Marine Corps.
• Warned SEAL Team 5 members that they will take casualties due to intense enemy immersion in the city.

Turnover and Transition

• Detailed information turnover from Task Unit Bruiser to SEAL Team 5, covering tactics, techniques, communication, and procedures.
• Task Unit Bruiser returned home on October 21, 2006.

Incident on November 19, 2006

• An operation for SEAL Team 5 went sideways, leading to severe casualties.
• A movie titled "Warfare" by Ray Mendoza depicts this operation.

Guests: Joe Hildebrand & Elliot Miller

• Both wounded during the November 19, 2006, operation.
• Elliot Miller severely injured, lost a leg, and suffered traumatic brain injury.

Elliot Miller's Background

• Grew up in southern Illinois on a small farm.
• Joined the Marine Corps, served as an infantryman, and later became a Navy SEAL.

Joe Hildebrand's Background

• Grew up in Arkansas, previous work at Camp David before joining SEAL teams.
• Served six years in the Navy CBs before joining BUDS.

BUDS Training

• Joe was in class 244 and excelled in physical aspects.
• Elliot was 27 during BUDS and faced age-related challenges.

Deployment to Ramadi

• SEAL Team 5 focused on preparing for the intense environment of Ramadi.
• Emails between Elliot and Leif reveal expectations and morale.
• Received direct advice on the seriousness of the mission and anticipated casualties.

The November 19 Incident

• Overwatch position hit by enemy assault, planned Kazak with Bradley vehicles.
• Joe suffered severe leg injuries; Elliot's injuries led to eventual amputation.
• Support and extraction by Army and Marine Corps.
• Depicted in the movie "Warfare," which shows realistic combat scenarios without added dramatization.

Recovery and Rehabilitation

• Both Joe and Elliot underwent extensive surgeries and rehabilitation.
• Elliot's recovery involved significant challenges, including brain injury.
• Joe worked as an instructor post-recovery, eventually retired in 2021.

Reflections and Lessons

• Discussion on leadership and decision-making under pressure.
• Emphasis on personal recovery journeys and the challenges faced.
• Joe highlights the importance of grit and perseverance in overcoming adversity.

Conclusion

• Acknowledgment of the sacrifices made by Joe, Elliot, and their teams.
• Encouragement to watch the movie "Warfare" for a deeper understanding of the real-life events depicted in the discussion.