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Dr. Burzynski: Antineoplastons and Controversies

[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] all [Music] one year after starting Dr brazinsky treatment UCLA pronounced me in remission Dr brazinski saved my life and for that he is facing 300 years in a federal penitentiary perhaps Dr binski has found the medical breakthrough of the century certainly a wealth of empirical data hints at that possibility but how will we ever know if the FDA succeeds in quashing it the FDA has raid Dr rinsky's Clinic enough times now that they should have been able to prove any legitimate charges they may have had against him the Relentless stress the FDA has put Dr brazinsky patients through is unforgivable the FDA has convened four grand juries none of which returned an indictment finally 5 days after this body pressed David Kesler for answers on retaliatory actions against Dr binski guess what he was indicted will uh fda's initiatives that you announced today expedite the current review of anti- neoplas on treatments I don't want to get into any particular agent isn't part of your problem that uh the treatment of cancer is a very profitable industry for a lot of companies and that your uh treatment right now will eat into those company's profits anything I'd like the following questions to be asked the FDA how much money have they spent in the last 10 years to try to put Dr brazinski out of business how many documents can they subpoena and how many more grand juries do does he have to go to and why can't patients who have advanced cancer seek the medical uh treatment of their choice the issue of whether anti-al plaston work may not even come up during the trial the judge says that's not relevant you voted to equ quit to equ quit absolutely not guilty not guilty I voted for quid I voted my mind and my my heart I do not believe that Dr binski is a criminal and I had voted to acquit Bin's victory has resulted in the American government abandoning their initial attempt to hijack these medicines after they filed 11 patent of an already existing anti- neoplas on compound by recruiting and colluding with one of brzinsky own research [Music] scientists now entering a new chapter and Against All Odds anti- neoplas on have successfully completed a series of Food and Drug Administration sanctioned Phase 2 clinical trials now the therapy is about to be tested in what's called a phase 3 trial a massive experiment involving potentially hundreds of brain cancer patients worldwide Dr Stannis brazinski is presently the first and only scientist in United States history to enter the federal drug approval process for a proprietary cancer therapy without any financial support from the American government the pharmaceutical industry or the cancer [Music] establishment as of the Year 2013 only 10% of the patients that seek brzinsky therapy are allowed to receive anti- neoplas on due to strictly imposed federal government sanctions that limit who is and who is not allowed to receive them before we got to the clinic we didn't know what law would be prescribed with we were hoping she would get antono plast on um but they did say to us we're not going to know until you arrive and we submit all your medical records to the FDA they'll determine whether they're going to approve law for treatment or not the patients that wish to receive anti- neoplas on are required to go through a rigorous review process by America's Food and Drug Administration which generally requires proof that chemotherapy and radiation have first failed the patient before being allowed access to anti- neoplas on so we got back from getting the biopsy result and I straight away founded the clinic and told them what Laura's tumor was and he said look I'm really sorry but it's a clinical trial and there's criteria Laura's going to have to had radiotherapy or chemotherapy first and filed that I said to that's crazy what do you mean filed that first and I said what you know we even we're UK citizens does it matter that we're not Americans do we still come under the same law and he said yeah you'll be on us soil when you arrive uh the clinics on the USR we have to ad adhere to this but we just said let's just get on with it get on with it yeah went for the six weeks radiotherapy I did 10 days of the chemotherapy the temodar and I was violently sick even if the fda's prerequisite is fulfilled the FDA holds full dictatorial rights to refuse patients access to the medicine if they choose the doctors have told us basically there is no cure by contrast uh Dr brazinski we have found out has uh cured several people with Myoma which means that this is a better Prospect for us just St statistically the problem is uh that the FDA in its wisdom will not allow us to uh be treated with the Anan neop plastin we have asked the FDA what is different about my case why I don't get an exemption we didn't have a response yet to that to that question they're not going to allow uh Pat to be treated by the clinic that has the technology to possibly save her life upon the mapping of the human genome dozens of new Gene targeted medications were developed and released by the pharmaceutical industry working in tandem with the quickly expanding assortment of various Gene targeted medications constantly becoming more available rinsky's team has been widening their research since the 1990s by utilizing this new technology and thus inventing an additional technique of cancer treatment as a brand new alternative for his patients bra binski defines this new technique as personalized Gene targeted cancer therapy in which the remaining 90% of brzinsky cancer patients are enrolled they are prescribed a personalized recipe of commercial medications which does not involve the original anti- neoplas on invention personalized treatment is designed for individual patient it's coming from understanding that cancer is not just the single disease cancer is perhaps perhaps half a million of different molecular diseases this means that every patient needs to be treated individually if you would like to be successful and if you like to avoid bad adverse reactions this means that you need to identify what is causing cancer individual patients and we know that cancer is caused by abnormal genes at this time it is necessary to identify abnormal genes and then it is necessary to identify the medications which will work on these genes uh and use them in combination knowing that some patients may not tolerate such combination well again there's a way to identify based on genomic studies if the patients are good candidates from the Viewpoint of vierse reactions and the way that we do that here is by evaluating the genetic makeup of your cancer we've benefited from using Caris Life Sciences Labs out in Phoenix Arizona who will essentially do a full genomic study of what makes your cancer your cancer basically they run the analysis on the entire cancerous Genome of 24,000 genes we are not treating for instance quote unquote large C lung cancer we are treating the combination of genes which are causing this cancer those are the one things I was taking Chris was diagnosed with stage one colon cancer none of these commercial drugs that the brazinski clinic prescribed him were approved by the FDA to treat stage one one colon cancer the brazinski clinic prescribed Chris these three medications off label based on the findings of his genetic profile having nothing whatsoever to do with what these drugs were granted Market approval for the my doctor called me and said there's no tumor can you believe I have three month it's not even less than 3 months and my tumor was gone and just 3 months earlier I was I was saying it was all over the fact that we got rid of his cancer at this time it's great okay but obviously this would be criticized by standard oncology because they would say well this patient should receive standard of care which means surgery then combination of chemotherapy one of the interesting things around here is that when the drug reps do come to present either a lunch or or a talk about their medications they often ask us what it is that we're doing with their medications and they'll gladly sit and listen and obviously understand the mechanisms of their medications but then they get really perked up when we start telling them about the other cancers that Dr binski is freely using their medications against every doctor we seen has said there is no cure for meral cell cancer yeah it's like too bad you know might well get your papers in order and you know pick out funeral home make sure you got a burial plot and all this stuff Mrs Wright was 66 years of of age when she originally consulted with me in July of 2005 at that time she had had a biopsy of a mass on the left side of the face which identified Merkel cell curcoma in a series of five surgeries we attempted to remove this cancer and provide her some uh attempted cure of her cancer we had provided good surgical procedures for her but without lasting result so uh we were like okay what we do next and in our head and neck tumor board in our Medical Center here we decided that she would benefit by the administration of radiation therapy and so we went over to the radiation and so they did a one sequence of radiation on it and then that didn't stop it didn't do a thing for it it was my understanding that at that time she and her husband did some internet work and went online and found Dr brazinski in Houston Texas after which time he offered her a protocol that involved sutent sutent has not been granted Market approval to treat Merkel cell cancer in fact there are not any drugs granted Market approval by the FDA to treat Merkel cell cancer and the tumors under here and the tumors here and all this were gone and part of it back here they was just flat gone I think he's out of the box and that's what Mrs Wright needed she needed um some fresh ideas and um that's what has resulted in her success is that someone took a chance applied an off Lael use to a medication that's used every day in our cancer center but not necessarily for this application and it has shown shown some lasting benefit to uh Mrs writes cancer control it's very exciting yeah you know what's interesting is all this stuff is not taught to you in medical school you know the medical curriculum that we all go through is very traditional and they don't teach you um they you know my medical education taught me how to think but this this level of thinking goes One Step Beyond one of the things too about vinski is one the some of the first level doctors coming from different places different countries and learning what he's doing Dr saana Bor works with the prestigious University in Japan he wants to make targeted gene therapy the standard treatment in his country his method is a very safe and uh also very effective so I'm sure that this is the uh new strategy of cancer treatment the doctors here before we left said I had to have um hospice he was committed to a wheelchair or the bed he could not breathe at all without constant oxygen when we left Mark was able to walk he had no oxygen he was a completely stable individual he was no longer dependent on everything he's been on it for about a month or so and I mean he looked completely like a different person he was not in the wheelchair anymore he was off his oxygen he was walking he looked like he's gained weight you know all the bulky lymph node that you can see from far away in his neck where there were almost completely gone and he just looked good and he really felt good as well and he was not having much really toxicity at all from the from from that regimen in terms of nausea vomiting low blood counts he was just doing very very well and after we are confident that the patient is doing well there are no side effects and there are some initial signs of improvement the patient can return home under the care of the local oncologist looking back into into the whole thing you know I I definitely did not recommend them to go to the piny clinic at the beginning you know I did not know much about it I didn't know exactly what they were doing over there and you know uh we we we we're all trained in in you know in in a certain fashion you know we follow FDA approved chemotherapy and FDA approved regimen uh but after I've seen what he what he has gone through at the binski clinic and you know the kind of response he's he's had I've certainly you know changed my mind and and my opinion about it we have to get to the point where you know chemotherapy has to be custom made to each patient and not one size fits all the doctors said you know I think this is time where we talk about do not resuscitate papers and you know getting them signed and I just I wanted to vomit and before he could say anymore I just said I've had enough I'm out of here um my roommate um ended up knowing U one of the people who works at the brzinsky CL Clinic we got an appointment and we walked in and at this point it was in my lungs my liver my abdomen my pelvis and my femur bone so I was on treatment with them from November um I guess end of October November to in December went for scans at the end of December and we got our Christmas miracle all my tumors were inactive and I just I couldn't believe it I mean my family and I were just I mean we were left I mean we didn't even know what to say you know we were speechless the binski clinic prescribed Lindsay seven different Gene targeted medications to battle her Cancer all of these medications are manufactured by the pharmaceutical industry and sold to the brazinski clinic some of the retail prices for an annual course of these drugs can exceed 100,00 ,000 each insurance doesn't cover binski since brzinsky technique is not widely accepted within mainstream oncology most insurance companies will not cover its costs unless it is prescribed directly from the patient local oncologist therefore most patients must begin therapy at the brazinski clinic and then return home to their local oncologists in hopes that they will agree and adhere to pinsky's recipe of medications and allowing full insurance coverage I wasn't in a financial spot to be able to afford that and binsky Clinic tried to find me other options um so I had a recommendation and saw a new doctor had agreed to follow the same regimen um that you know do that the biny clinic was offering me and you know get in get in to see this doctor and she just wants me to have chemo her thought process was you know if you're on seven different medicines how do you really know what it is that's really working she thinks it's not approved necessarily for this so why do it you know let's go back and let's just do strictly chemo and that's what I'm afraid of you know going back and saying dang it you know had we just continued doing what we were doing it is impossible to know for certain if binsky regimen would have saved Lindsay's life they the only thing that is certain is that Lindsay was declined by her insurance company and her local oncologist the opportunity to find out if Dr brzinsky treatment is so effective and so many of his patients say that it is why then is it not used here at MD Anderson one of the nation's leading cancer hospitals simple say doctors here it doesn't cure cancer well I don't have any evidence that that's for certain Dr Mari Markman is head of research at MD Anderson his claims have certainly not uh reached the level of uh Acceptance in the um uh medical community he says there can be lots of explanations why certain patients recover but to say it's because of brzinsky treatment you can't say that he says and if there was such proof if it worked you'd be all over it absolutely but Dr brazinski thinks there may be something else at work big institutions may not like being upstaged by an outsider the doctor at MD Anderson disagrees on January 19th 2011 MD Anderson Cancer Center announced its acceptance of a $50 million grant for cancer research calling this grant the largest in its history to build an entirely new cancer research Wing called The Institute for personalized cancer therapy which will be created to support preclinical research and clinical trials in which a patient's tumor biopsy is assayed for abnormal genes and Gene products to select therapy with agents targeting the product of those particular abnormal genes and since 2011 hardly a month has passed without a newspaper or television story describing this new technique we're talking cure here we're not talking management right if you were to have cancer and there was someone else your age another woman who also had the same type of cancer that the the reality is those are two very different cancers still and we used a one shot fits-all sort of approach to treat this uh but in fact your genetic uh makeup your genetic makeup and your tumor would cause a different sort of treatment to take place and that's where they're focusing in on we know how to do that already they say to map someone's genome figure out how to treat them most specifically for them it is unclear if these announcements are directly due to brazinski pioneering this method 10 years prior or if it is simply a coincidence either way there are some paralyzing bureaucratic roadblocks that mainstream oncological centers like MD Anderson have not yet faced when announcing this new Direction namely the firmly established 60-year old Paradigm of the scientifically controlled clinical trial if I had two combinations of pure compound neither of them by themselves did anything significant but you put them together and they did something really dramatic you know but alone they wouldn't work it is impossible to get that approved by the FD because they don't know how to deal with two things at once they want to deal with a single pure thing they don't have the mechanism for understanding that in our current clinical trial structure a university or pharmaceutical company proposes a new cancer therapy for Market to a regulatory government agency in the United States this would be the FDA the proposed therapy first goes through a phase one trial to see if the therapy is safe to administer if the FDA deems it safe it graduates Ates into a phase 2 trial which determines if the therapy shows any efficacy if efficacy is demonstrated it then enters a phase three trial in a phase three trial for advanced cancer therapies a series of patients who all have the exact same diagnosis are acred then split into two groups both groups are given the exact same established standard of care which is generally radiation or chemotherapy while only one group gets the newly proposed therapy this is defined as a randomized controlled clinical trial if the group who received the newly proposed therapy fares better than the group without the FDA then releases the therapy to the public and it becomes a new standard of care if you were trying to do the cocktail where you you genetically tested people and knew that you had four or five different drugs but you knew that you know this subject needs half as much of that twice as much of that the normal amount of that la la la and you tried to cuss customize this if you tried to work that through the current system it just doesn't fit it doesn't fit the Paradigm of what they're used to working with it's so far outside I I I I don't think it would work um I I mean I think the treatment would work I don't think it would work with the system I don't think you'd be able to get that approved it is physically impossible to get a personalized regimen approved when our current clinical trial structure is based exclusively on everyone getting the exact same medicines each patient would represent their own clinical trial thus defining each patient's outcome as merely anecdotal and then the problem comes how to really combine the treatments used for instance five or six medications together if each of these treatments is produced by different phace companies which would like to get rid of each other they are not willing to cooperate with each other you would like to put out of business each other so that's why in the United States would take enormous time to bring this to surface to bring this to the approval on the other hand big institutions big Cancer Centers uh they are very slow they are tremendously bureaucratic the project needs to go from one committee to another it will take forever to approve it and these are small steps many oncologist don't understand how this medicines work for instance a year ago we would be question why did you use herceptin for the teach of of stomach cancer it has been approved only for the breast cancer but then now ccept is approved for the treatment of stomach cancer by the FDA why because it works on the gene which is also involved in stomach cancer not in everybody but in good number of patients so what we use for instance a year ago was right so that's a very difficult task for most oncologist they don't understand they treat the name of the can they still don't understand the cancer is caused by the gene if they would understand that they have a lot of things available to treat patients successfully this would completely change the Outlook of cancer treatment you may have much more effective treatment now okay without waiting for 30 years whatever with the available resources they can already save the life of numerous patient a glioblastoma multi fori is a highly malignant primary brain tumor which in the vast majority of patients is fatal it is incurable in almost every patient the doctors were very shocked because um the biopsy revealed Laura tumor had progressed from a grade one or two to now be a grade four glioblastoma multiform most of us would consider the average survival to be about 9 to 12 months after diagnosis with with what is termed conventional treatment and conventional treatment consists of surgery radiation therapy and chemotherapy so we then knew at that stage from this meeting that we were in this category of this is terminal and Laur may not have many months um yeah months rather even not even a year I don't know he was like 16 months old um I've tried to detach myself a lot from from Jacob and my family and try and go into my own little world I tried to tried to break up with me she said that um you need to have a you need to meet someone else move on and um start like a family with someone else and be with someone who's not ill you know like someone who's not got something like this um team iside has given us a further weapon weon in our fight against G blastoma by affording patients some extra survival though this is not been uh proven to be scientifically significant she refused to touch it I remember it came in a big bag and um every night I used to have to open the packets and and give her the tablets and it was like a little ritual and we both sat there and we just we were just so against it because we knew how ineffective it was as well mhm so it was almost like it's making a really sick some people don't survive chemotherapy what's the point in Laura's last days being in such pain and being so ill yeah for for not much benefit you know once conventional treatments failed to stop Laura's gleo blastoma brain tumor from growing they were now released to try the brazinski clinic a young mother from K who's suffering from a rare form of brain cancer is trying to raise money for treatment which could save her life 24-year-old Laura heims from has been told that her cancer is incurable but she believes a new treatment which is available in America could give her a hope of survival it was on Christmas Eve Laura heus was told she had a rare form of brain cancer and the doctors have told her there's no cure this gray patch is a lowgrade cancer which is affecting her balance and her coordination but doctors are much more concerned by this small white area which is an aggressive form of cancer and has appeared in just the last 3 months their research LED them to a hospital in America which claims many successes but is still being trialed and for this reason it's not available on the NHS Laura must now raise £75,000 each day that goes by you just wake up and sorry just seeing my son get older every day it's just really hard because I think well how long have I got Laura and Ben know that a cure is not guaranteed but they're determined to raise this money if it means there is at least some hope of prolonging Laura's life yeah there's like a lot of websites call him a scammer a quack and the first thing I thought was well I don't believe everything I read so I need to find out what this is all about so I did some research and found a family in England that had used this doctor and he told us all about his experience at the clinic gave us lots of contact details and phone numbers I'd read for days and days and days about Dr bazinsky I'd sit there for hours and hours reading message boards with arguments going back and forth and to find someone who' actually been there to like verify it it was that was it for us even like Laura's parents and some of my friends were saying you know this guy's a quack when I first heard about it I didn't think it would work because we've been told that the only outcome was probably 12 months at the best and you hear so many stories about what they call snake doctors or pedaling medicine that um is absolutely useless and I took a lot of convincing many months many months before leaving for Houston Laura Ben and her parents decided to have another meeting with her oncologist to make sure England's national Health Service would continue to cover Laura's MRI scans blood work and other medical Necessities once they returned home to England I knew it would be a very interesting conversation because we knew he was against what we were doing what we decided so I decided to record the meeting just so that we could refer back to to it and listen to it when we got home because whenever we went to oncology meetings we'd feel like we were Bamboozled like thrown so much information that you came out and in shock and you didn't remember half of what was said for legal reasons we cannot disclose the name of Laura's oncologist or the hospital that this meeting took place are you hey hello H recognize you because I recognize your trendly hairsty hi Laura hi hello dead Ben Ben yeah um I just wanted to go over what we talked about before binski and that you said that you wouldn't trade me after if I no no no no no let's make it very clear Dr binski is a person who provides private care in a nonconventional way that we do not quite understand or would condone well the epigenetic side of it or just a lot of it it's just not of his anti neop plon approach which is still controversial to say the least I've had patients there who got them cocktails of medication that could have a rational to work in brain tumor as patients but I've never been tried and tested in this excessive combination you just get antineoplastons in the clinical trial if you don't fit the criteria then you get personalized treatment which is what you all discussing yeah that's what my patients usually got in the end of the day for is the trial yeah but as I this is a trial that is currently not supported by the NHS or the hospital so if you're under the care there and participate in the trials and they want to have regular blood tests Etc and scans in accordance with the clinical trial protocol they need to organize for you the plot test and the clinical trial requirements well they they' said we need to make sure we've got a doctor here yes the bid is that if you're on the Dr binski which is not part of the NHS practice you cannot expect the NHS as such to pick up the cost associated with would appreciated was more more advice than I mean for example like obviously Laura's care here is palive when not Curative what we probably would appreciated was more of a point in the right direction rather than a don't go there you know well no what I say is that that's entirely up to you because I know that I'm not able in a position to prove you that I can off you Curative treatment in the long term I mean he even says he doesn't claim secure no he doesn't prob well his treatment has got very little side effects and you know at the end of the day if this is Pala and longterm is not a good outlook that's help VI yeah you know when she comes back is care when she comes back regular MRIs blood test because this is not a trial that is currently ethically reviewed or approved in any of the UK institutions here and I'm just saying that in the conventional medical terms here may find these clinical trials not possibly quite as positive or as sort of supportable I mean what other options could be offered because at the end of the day this is the option Laura wants to take and we would obviously really like you support that well given that I'm personally not entirely convinced that this is a read that as an NHS oncologist and that's my limitations we're looking at treating Laura in a different way so yeah and you have yourself TR that Laura won't be a longterm Survivor so therefore Laura's got a child and whether she had a child or not it's in her interest to live as long a life yeah Laura came home and told me that you told her don't be bothering to put into your pension pot so basically you were reiterating what you told us in the first place anyway that the longterm survival of Laura will be very debatable correct so as a family we look on it quite right if it was happening to you or your child or anyone in your family naturally we think right well the National Health Service unfortunately won't be able to cure correct our daughter's tumor in the long term correct they can only hold it back so what is wrong in Laura and her family seeking hope elsewhere and it is FDA approved if it was a quack total quack he wouldn't have FDA approv I completely hear what you say what say it's unethical and stuff like I do think that that's probably misleading because at the end of the day he's got here to strip protocols to very to be in these TRS especially to be in phase three for other particular type of cancer and I think his results are amazing from what we've seen compared to the carcinogenic treatment that he going to get in yeah you know no offense but if you're going take one over the don't was the way that you stated if she goes out to America yeah has the full treatment and then comes back what I cannot support Laura with at that point if she is under the clinical trial under Dr binski even though I appreciat FDA approved and that's a difficult thing to understand why I may not be quite but as long as he's under his care his medical Direction and he manages her then I wouldn't be able to provide care the primary care trust commissioned you to provide their eight we MRI scans of blood test which they'll provide you with what they need results wise and also to do a physical health check of law every month I don't see why then couldn't provide that provision of care if the PCT have agreed to pay for you you work I don't see the understand because we've got a friend who's been to the clinic two three years ago she was here Wednesday and she's under your care she's been to the clinic she's an expen patient and she's had great results she was given three months when she was seven and now she's 11 she's back at school you know so that for us is a positive thing to think about but also it's an individual you know we understand that what I'm saying is while she was at the clinic she stayed there for two or 3 months came back to England and she had NHS doctor doing all those things for her here so there is a case where it's happened for someone else there isn't any consistency if if it can happen we request I I personally have a problem with Dr binski and the individual care plans that he's been delivering and if you just into the clinical trial just to get the antinal plast on that may be Sly different bit so you wouldn't see a problem with a clinical trial we're just asking for the basic she should be able to have that care I'm not very happy with personally you can understand from ours side what we're saying is you're delivering Pala of care to Laura we found something which in trial I understand you don't believe or you know whatever you're on VI we want to do that tream we'll pay for it so I can't see why you would have a problem with that we we do differ in our understanding what is a problem or not a problem and well I'm very happy to support Laura to get everything she needs there are a few things that I personally would not support and as I say direct taking advice from Dr binsky but what is needed and required is one of the few things where I person personally me as a person he'll send you a sheet once a month and he'll say can she walk yes it's a physical check the other ones are Bloods taken every two weeks you'll get the blood results which you then fax to the clinic we're just ordinary run-of-the-mill people but we're all the same no one's better than anybody else and all Laura wants to do is live as long as she can CU you know understand with those facts why you wouldn't in this circumstance go outside of perhaps your comfort zone or beliefs to help Laura achieve what she wants to do as a human being yeah he can't help everyone some people go there on their last legs and he can't he can't help them and they died you expect me to respect your choice but we're giving you a very good argument why that's our choice but I don't feel that you're giving us a very good argument back about why that's your choice she may get sad news out in America if if she doesn't respond to the antio plason but we want her to to have that chance what if so this did work and you know you are helping Laura achieve that by giving her the care here wouldn't that be a major positive thing for the medical community I don't know I mean I'm just trying to understand that's why you do these trials in the US it is FDA approv I know so that must you know we are supposed to be friends with America when would you need to start if there's progression on the next scan we can start straight away if there's no progression we have to wait a further four weeks okay you can't cure Laura in the long run that's the only way we're looking at it is a family if we knew that Laura could be cured we wouldn't be looking elsewhere Laur would have been costing the NHS x amount of money because of conventional chemotherapy treatments St you let me know when you need to have your scan yeah you can have a CD ROM or that diagnostic image yeah once Laura goes out to America and she's all set up it would be fantastic if look after Laura when she's back in in this country so obviously we've got no other choice this is what we're doing okay so with that with your position are you are you going to try very hard would you like to do it for Laura putting the side the brazinski clinic would you like to help Laura that is not the question yeah well but that is you took the hypocritic oath as a as an oncologist or as a doctor before you train okay I think we've done what we can do at the moment okay I'll check you can keep those I'll check on those off again I don't think we' finished you're the top consultant that we can talk to so we need to know what the the normally is at the moment to finish the radiotherapy as planned and then we normally would only follow you up on clinical grounds on once about every 3 months basis you know I'd be on Watch and wait after when when it starts to get big again what would you do then by the surgery radiotherapy is most unlikely to be suitable lotion at the time or further chemotherapy would they be very effective none of the chemotherapies that is available at the moment is long-term effective so in a way I mean for this is not really an option I just think everyone needs at the moment to time up because I we're not really making any progress if it's about her I mean that's great and then as a as a personal opinion thank you it was a very bad time and it's left us with a very distrusting attitude of the National Health Service and when you mention to them options they just shake their heads no no that's not going to work yeah we we just feel very what the hell is going on in this world there were a lot of newspapers and magazines clambering for our story but when these stories were printed it was exactly the story we wanted but the headline was how am I going to tell my son I'm going to die it's just you know I don't know how these people can sleep at night printing these kind of stories when we decided to go to the binski clinic and start fundraising I emailed Ben at work and said I've had an an idea I want to start up a fundraising campaign and website and call it the hope for Laura fund a well-known comedian read our website someone tweeted it to him on Twitter and he was so taken with it that he did a video that was about 4 minutes long hello you lot on Twitter this young mom with a 19-month-old son needs 80 grand uh to go to America for a year worth of treatment I I don't know uh what we can do but there's uh there's information about how we can donate on uh hope for Laur fun. co.uk I've got 200,000 followers that means if if only one in five gave a couple of quid then this afternoon we we could have saved a woman's life a young mom's life and uh we got 25,000 that day um and in the weeks following that more money just kept coming in we raised £75,000 in 5 weeks which is what we needed for years treatment yeah this interview with Laura and Ben took place on March 3rd 2012 435 days since Laura's original diagnosis and 228 days since beginning anti- neoplas on therapy 11 days before this interview an independently conducted MRI by her local radiologist reveals Laura's tumor to have diminished by 77% um basically I was trained by the does in America to just look after all of this for Laura it does make the routines in the day a bit difficult cuz there's a dose every 4 hours these were new last night these bags and this one lasts for a whole 24 hours that one only lasts a half day cuz you can see it's empty now she's had three doses out of that overnight so now I've got to change this bag just that one this new bag the A10 after a whole year of doing this day in day out I mean Laura's had probably 2 and 1 half thousand doses there's only three doses in there you can imagine how many bag changes there been so bag one takes an hour and 20 minutes to deliver a whole dose so these work on a 4our cycle that's it just get it all back together I mean this is relaxing for me like knowing I'm actually doing something rather than sitting around watching uh try and get better I'm actually helping her I think one of the biggest things for me was the fact that I went over there with her and I took part in this it's actually easier to have it under press start this will go green that basically means it's going to start in one minute other people contacted us you know like their husband or son or someone may have the same type of tumor as Laura asking for information and with the same questions we had you know is this guy a quack what's all this what's it all about you know and we just say to them look you've got to do a lot of research read between the lines make your own mind up if you decide it's not for you then don't do it back in September last year I got an email out of the blue from a guy called Pete Cohen and uh and we had a chat and um he told me about his girlfriend Hannah I was rushed to hospital they thought I might have had a stroke and all manner of things mellitis everything um and I was sent down for a scan and it showed a darkening on one area of my brain and then they advised me me that I had a brain tumor he got most of the tumor out with Hannah talking moving and conversing normally it wasn't that scary I can remember everything laughing and joking with the nurses the speech therapist but anyway I still had a brain tumor when I came out most of the tumors we know that millions of cells remain in the brain and they can be very very aggressive in a way we are providing a setting for a second stage therapy to take place I started the my radio therapy course around May and that went on to Mid June um and then I went for another scan about 6 to 8 weeks afterwards and there was still tumor left we looked at lots of options um the doctors are very limited um options I they didn't offer me chemotherapy at that point in time I'm sure it would have got to that um but we wanted to find something different they came over here in December and met us for the first time um just a week before they flew to America there was so many obstacles in getting her over there obviously the biggest one being the FDA deciding that somewhere somewhere in America someone looked at her case and decided yes or no thankfully they said yes but they could have said no yeah maybe we had a good guy in on the maybe flipped a coin just hey heads up we're in hi Daddy hello how are you yeah I'm sorry for ringing so late that's right um but I'm ringing with really really good news good that's what I want to hear go on you no you telling I don't think I can tell me come on my tumor yeah has already shrunk by 10% you're hell man that is Absolut amazing this interview took place on March 2nd 2012 19 days later an independently conducted MRI by Hannah's local radiologist revealed that Hannah's tumor diminished by 63% things are great Laura's been on treatment for 13 months and after 9 months the tumor [Music] disappeared and she's been on the maintenance program since then which basically means 8 months of treatment from the time tumor disappeared until she can finish and that's to get rid of everything else that maybe isn't on the scans showing up [Music] I should finish just after Christmas so that'll be exactly 2 years since diagnosis that I've been fighting this thing CU I was diagnosed on Christmas Eve and Jacob was only 16 months old at the time I've got so much more energy I'm just I'm able to get up and down the stairs simple things like that just do normal things like cooking yeah going out like Laur was at home for months without going out anywhere um it's like it's slowly brought me out of this dark hole there was a point in time where even if I talked about doing something next week with Laura or whatever just making any kind of plan she'd feel really angry and refus to live for the future just for today and right now but then she started slowly over time thinking about like next week the week after and like we've planned our wedding now which is next year so we're thinking about the future without worrying so much just on a purely human Lev nothing to do with medical I just I felt absolutely gutted devastated for her the thought of having such a horrendous thing and then being told basically there's nothing anyone could do and going out doing all the research so meticulously and becoming so knowledgeable about all of it I I'm speechless about it I think it's extremely did you feel uneasy or uncomfortable at all because of the fact that it is experimental and it's quite controversial no I mean it's out of I suppose it's out of my comfort zone to be dealing with something that I haven't really got a grip on and don't understand and in terms of do I mind that it's a controversial thing not not at all not at all um you know I this is a desperate situation you do what you have to do if you've got the drive to do it she's always going to be having scans for the rest of her life but probably more less frequent but we can kind of stop letting it rule Our Lives Jacob how are you doing today not too bad I think when you were last here I said um something like we're just taking each day as it comes and now I kind of can plan in advance a bit more I mean cuz you feel so different now right I mean look at that smile I mean you know she's optimistic about life she's thinking about tomorrow and the next day Hannah's had um a complete response she'll be on the treatment now for another well it's now it'll be seven months so seven more months of this and then hopefully well being well that's it she's off stop and she can yeah move around and and start living a normal life again which a year ago seemed impossible that wasn't going to yeah that it was a dream oh it was a dream we wanted it but I think you probably believed it less I probably believed more that what we were going to do was going to work I've treat many patients with brain stem gomas and brain stem Goma is also a very unpleasant fatal in almost every case brain primary brain tumor and a brain stem Goma in a child is by en large a death sentence various treatments have been utilized over uh the world sadly nothing has been found to be effective over a long period of time in any significant group of patients it's a devilish and you know desperately awful disease to to be suffering from brain stem gomas are a blanket term for tumors occurring in the brain stem brain stem gomas are found in children more often than adults 85% of them occur in the pwn region and are defined as a dipg or diffuse intrinsic pontine Goma the doctors were saying I think they're being kind to me they were saying oh there might be a 15% chance that she'll survive so you cing on to that 15% but the more and more research you do you think no what are they talking about there isn't a 15% survival rate for this dipg she's going to die there's no known survivors the only survivors we could find came back to the binski clinic so for me it was a no-brainer we either do this or do nothing it was good to talk to other people I think I talked to um um Ben and Laura because they were out there a few weeks before we were going and it's just reassuring to hear from someone else from your own country look actually this is good it's fine and we got there the doctors were brilliant having gone through all my treatment with breast cancer I'd met plenty of doctors so you kind of know who's a good doctor and who's a bad doctor after meeting so many so as soon as we got there we thought thought right okay this is definitely the right thing to do and we were treated brilliantly and when we met Dr bazinsky the first thing he said to us was it doesn't work for everyone and we're working on trying to find out the reasons why it works for some and not for others and he said unfortunately kids who haven't had radiotherapy do tend to do a little better better but we didn't have any choice Billy was going downhill so rapidly she had to have radiotherapy and I'm really happy that um given the outcome unfortunately Billy didn't make it but it's a lot easier to deal with knowing that we did absolutely everything possible to try and save her when you speak to other parents you are in this kind of club the dipg club unfortunately it's horrible place to be but you learn so much and you get far better feedback and advice from other families than you do from doctors so you do form very strong friendships you do feel like you're all in it together and you give each other a lot of support and there's no because who's going to lie or to you when they're in the same situation with their kid so I wanted to pass that on to other families so when Richard Saunders got in touch with me about Amelia saying this has happened to us what would you do he was I really on the edge of deciding well maybe we do nothing because that's what the doctors have said and I felt it really important to encourage him to at least consider binski because I definitely feel it was the right thing for us to do so I'm really pleased that they went ahead and fingers crossed for them we met 4-year-old Amelia Saunders and her parents in London a few weeks after she was diagnosed with a dipg I am the ultimate skeptic by the way with everything and I thought these are real cases of this thing working and actually you know when you're given no choice at all with something either you try it and if it's that 1% chance that it works you got to give it a go because otherwise we had a 0% chance we do have a 0% chance 6 weeks later we met the Saunders family in America at the brazinski clinic she's been on treatment for three weeks she's had a couple of little hiccups along the way but other than that she's done really well um there's there were no promises at all and there have been their promises um there's been no magic ones to say this is definitely going to work 5 months later we visited the Saunders at their home at the moment we don't know what's going on we really don't know what um is happening in terms of uh whether the the treatment will actually shrink the tumor at all right now the only thing we can sort of grasp on to is how she's doing physically and what the scans show um and those scans are the same every single time equally it's not grown you know and that's got to be a good thing um I have no doubt that without the treatment it would have it would have grown and I don't I don't actually believe mil would be here now you know we we've never ever regretted the decision that we made we were told originally that we might have a month two months month between between a month and three or four months I think that was the maximum time they said to have Amelia here now starting school is amazing and two months after this interview Amelia's condition began to deteriorate and her parents decided to discontinue anti- neoplas on therapy Amelia passed away with her parents by her side on January the 6th 2013 brain stem Goma is as rare as it is deadly approximately 500 children a year in the United States and 40 children a year in England are diagnosed with it an exhaustive search spanning 27 years of all available medical literature worldwide reveals the absence of any patient ever being cured or living 5 years after diagnosis likewise no proposed medication from the cancer industry has demonstrated enough safety and efficacy by any of the world's Regulatory Agencies to gain Market approval for this condition a comprehensive 21-year study reported in one of the world's most prestigious oncology medical journals the Lancet published that radiation Remains the standard treatment chemotherapy has not shown any benefit overall Outlook is poor and nearly all children eventually die most studies showed a median survival time of shorter than one year Tor Marino's birth on Father's day was caused for celebration but as she grew her parents began to notice something unusual about her so Kim Marino and her husband Roman took their seven-week old baby girl to a neurologist who told them she had an inoperable brain tumor and wouldn't live more than 6 weeks I mean that left us with okay this is what we're facing with we will come home we will bring her home and just love her daily you know while she's here and so Tori began taking steroids to reduce the pressure on her brain the drugs have left her swollen part I remember Tories oncologist telling me um that your daughter is going to die I recommend that you don't um do CPR I know you're a police officer you guys you're part of your training but you may want to let her die and uh I have her desate ready to go just need needs to be signed but they refused to give up hope and they sought out an experimental gene therapy treatment that's never been tried on someone so young they'll leave their home in Garden Grove this weekend for a journey that could save their daughter's life it's the first day of experimental gene therapy treatment that could reduce a large tumor in her brain the medication will be pumped into her body six times a day for the next 6 weeks and will gradually increase in dosage but the number one concern for little tor's doctor and her parents is if there's enough time to save her you know even if she makes it to her first or second birthday i''d be overjoyed Pat doctors in Texas told baby tor's parents the cancerous growth is so large pressing on the baby's brain they can't believe the little girl is able to eat or move her arms and legs but this little gal is quite a fighter she is holding her own despite being the youngest person ever to undergo the experimental treatment everybody this is my niece baby Tori she is Tori Moreno arrived home in La this afternoon in Texas doctors inserted a catheter into tor's chest through it experimental medicine called anti- neop plastin will be administered daily by her parents right at home and they're not yet sure whether it will shrink tor's tumor she's the youngest person ever to try the therapy you know back uh the initial onset in August when they were telling us that she was going to die was I we can't even believe she's still alive right now this is an ecology team um three of them and tor's pediatrician um who's been a doctor for a long time was saying this is the worst case had ever seen in their history and remember that first scan came back I think we started in October and by December it was the first time you get a chance to look at something there was already a dramatic impact with that and not only that to take those scans to an outside doctor going okay tor's parents took her December 1998 scans to St Francis Medical Center for a confirmation the scan at the start of anti- neoplas on therapy was dated October 13th St Francis also described tor's tumor in Greater detail noting that it was within the ponds region almost completely replacing it and extending out beyond the brain stem itself they noted that the subsequent scan dated December 10th the tumor appears to have decreased in size they summarized that comparisons between the October 13th and the December 10th scans suggests an approximate 20 to 25% decrease in the size of tor's tumor and then a couple months later it might have been two or 3 months later we saw an additional reduction the doctors I remember even in California uh the oncology team was still baffled they were still making excuses um and I was starting to see through that clearly now saying wow what is the the big issue with this guy is successful and I I almost like some professional Envy or something like that I I go wow okay I just was just baffled at at the way they weren't giving Dr brzinsky uh all this credit for this and they were talking about spontaneous remissions and I go like what I've already done the homework with that spontanous remissions and a brain snom those don't happen and I said do you know who drinski is well I've heard of him and I said in Houston Texas he deals with anti neoplas well I don't really know much about it I remember talking to the doctors going well I a police officer I don't save lives for a living and I know a lot about it my suggestion is that you do some research with this Dr brazinski I was baffled that they didn't take some time to get to know this doctor that was saving lives in houon Texas um but um as we continue to go through there we saw you know an ability for Tori to possibly live we didn't feel like we're even out of the woodwork KN one okay will this stuff shut off will it stop working and so it wasn't till about maybe 6 months into it that we started feeling comfortable like our daughters they get a chance to live here she is celebrating her we've had 14 birthdays now with her when they were saying you know she wouldn't make it to her first so um unfortunately I obviously was too young to remember any of it but I just when people ask me that I unfortunately don't have a lot of information get them but it's um I just I just it's my story it's part of me it's made me who I am I just I think it's a really really cool story a 2006 scientifically peer-reviewed report published in pediatric drugs reported the results of two Phase 2 anti- neoplas on clinical trials for children with diffuse brain stem Goma a a total of 40 children were treated and an average of 25% of them lived Beyond 5 years while competing Phase 2 and phase 3 clinical trials using a combination of radiation and standard chemotherapy showed zero survivors in 2012 America's National Cancer Institute likewise began publicly citing and acknowledging one of the phase 2 peer-reviewed anti- neoplas on clinical trials for brain stem Goma as of 2013 there have only been two medications to ever be approved by the FDA for malignant brain tumors temodar in 1999 and aastan in 2009 though neither of them demonstrated enough safety or efficacy to reach FDA approval for a brain stem Goma nor were either of these drugs required to enter a multi-center randomized phase 3 trial before being FDA approved approved for Market this was made possible due to legislation released in the 1990s when the FDA formed its accelerated approval program to quickly approve drugs that serve as the first available treatments for a life-threatening condition instead of requiring evidence of clinical benefits such as survival FDA will rely on objective evidence of partial response such as tumor shrinkage as an initial basis for approval this will allow us to rely on smaller shorter studies for the initial approval of cancer drugs temodar first received accelerated approval for anaplastic astrocytoma brain cancer based on a single arm Phase 2 study of 54 patients 12 of the patients responded with five of these patients having a complete response though the overall survival time was 15.9 months at the time of approval no results were available from randomized controlled trials to show any clinical benefit or prolonged survival aastan was granted accelerated approval for gleo blastoma brain cancer based on two single arm phase two trials the first was a phase 2 randomized study of patients who had tried and failed temodar and radiation in this single randomized study some responses were observed in 25.9% of the patients with the average response itself lasting about 4.2 months there was also a single arm Phase 2 study conducted using 56 patients all of whom also tried and failed temodar and radiation 19.6% of these patients responded with the average response lasting about 3.9 months so the only two drugs to ever be approved for malignant brain tumors were never required to enter a traditional multi- Center randomized phase 3 trial before reaching approval nor was either drug required to cure a single patient these drugs were however required to enter a multicenter randomized phase 3 trial only after they were already in the hands of the public comparably a series of multiple single arm FDA sanctioned Phase 2 clinical trials for brain stem Goma using anti- neoplas on conducted from 1995 to 2008 169 patients in total were treated with 33 of those patients being completely cured or have lived Beyond 5 years anti- neoplans are more than qualified for Accelerated approval to serve as the first available effective treatment for brain stem Goma instead the FDA has mandated that anti- neoplas on be the first and only exception in FDA history where an effective life-saving first available cancer medicine will not be granted the option for Accelerated approval in 2011 over 7,000 Americans signed a petition with President Obama's administration asking Congress to intervene in this matter the White House did not respond instead the FDA responded stating that no randomized controlled studies showing the effectiveness of anti neoplas on have been published nor have all the trials needed to approve anti- neoplas been conducted however 3 years prior the FDA officially acknowledged that anti- neoplas on demonstrated enough safety and efficacy in Phase 2 trials thus granting permission to proceed into phase 3 randomized trials for brain stem Goma it is difficult to verify the rationale for the fda's insistence on antineoplastons being subjected to phase 3 trials for brain stem Goma but some theorize that this rare exception is due to the pharmaceutical industry having too much power over the FDA and is directly preventing antineoplastons from Gaining Market approval of any kind Dr David Graham has been working at the FDA for 20 years he's a senior official we sat down with Dr Graham for his first extended face-to-face television interview just who is the FDA working for a former manager of mine in the office of drug safety told me that industry was our client and when I said to him no the public is my client he said I was wrong that it was industry FDA is there to serve its client industry and is not there to serve the public FDA has become a factory for the approval of new drugs to understand how the FDA got to where it is today you need to go back to 1992 that year the first President Bush with the support of both Democrats and Republicans signed into law the prescription drug user fee Act the law was passed in response to Industry complaints that the FDA wasn't approving drugs fast enough part of the deal the drug companies agreed to start paying the FDA to speed up the approval process it worsened the culture with an FDA that was already bad to start with that said we will approve drugs and we'll approve them quickly because essentially all this money is coming in from the pharmaceutical companies therefore we need to please the pharmaceutical companies well that that is eventually the mentality that emerged that's changed the whole balance of financial power within the agency here's the thing while the industry has been providing more and more money for approvals Congress has cut spending for the rest of what the FDA does as a result almost four out of every $5 the FDA spends on drug regulation now goes to getting new drugs approved for sale you I pick up the papers and I read articles that say that the FDA is slow in approving drugs the big problem that you all have over there is bureaucratic foot dragging keeping important new treatments away from people who need it desperately right that is a complaint I think where that complaint originates from is probably from the pharmaceutical industry it's not true though I mean even the cases of a drug that might be necessary to help someone's cancer from progressing well let's put it this way if you look at most drugs that get approved on the marketplace most of them aren't offering a true therapeutic Advance you go this whole rig roll at the FDA to get a drug approved and you're saying it doesn't offer much over an existing drug no it usually doesn't offer anything over existing drug what let's look at Vio what we say is the truth trust us this drug is safe and effective it's safe and effective because we the FDA say it is and we don't have to produce evidence to justify that and their reaction is predictably and uniformly the same which is they deny that there's a problem and they kill the messenger who brought them the bad news if the FDA released anti- neoplas to the public to treat brain stem Goma it would in turn also allow any cancer patient with any type of cancer diagnosis to also have the option to receive anti- neoplas on from their local oncologist under the fda's category of all label use and this is this is this is a very common kind of business practice on on all kinds of business is you you try to push out the competition and you know because bringing a drug to Market takes $400 $800 million they're going to try to minimize any competition and that could be you know competition can be on a lot of levels this this is pretty normal in all facets of business they want to remove competition uh in any way that they can that's legal or maybe not quite so legal one of the things that helps to perpetuate the system the way that it is is you the FDA is regulating the Pharma world but the Pharma world is all run by the same people the same people who are regulating all this big Pharma are the same people who are running the big farma and they go back and forth you know you start up you move up through the FDA you become important enough big Pharma will hire you because you have that expertise and all the contacts in in the agency and it goes the other way if you're if you're in big Pharma well you learn enough you know how it is you got enough buddies on both sides it's a fact there's you can just look at records public records and and it it's a big boys club the FDA requires that any phase 3 trials for any new drug be conducted by a series of independent hospitals without the inventors involvement upon receiving the official permission from the FDA to begin a series of phase three randomized clinical trials to get anti- neoplas on approved for brain stem Goma the binsky research institute approached nearly every single Children's Hospital in the United States Canada and England and every single one of these hospitals flatly refused to participate in these phase three trials for brain stem Goma cuz you know a big company like an astroica or what they put a lot of money into companies like the quintiles and and and other contract research organizations that feed into these if you don't think they have an influence on what kind of business those businesses will pick up cuz you know if you're going to work with him I'll move my work somewhere else a common reason some of the hospitals gave after rejecting this study was simply not interested other hospitals denied participation because they didn't like the idea that patients would take the therapy home with them undergoing 24-hour infusions carrying an electric pump around and changing their bags on their own since every other standard of care therapy has always been administered for its full duration within the hospital itself another reason all hospitals refused to participate was out of fear that no parent would agree to allow their child to enter one of these phase 3 trials because the FDA has also mandated that radiation therapy be required in both groups since radiation is proven to cause serious debilitating side effects when administered to the brain stem region of a developing child the Lancet oncology 2006 expose on childhood brain stem Goma has pointed out that theoretically randomized studies are the method of choice to test a new hypothesis however when the standard treatment or control group provides no chance of success the rationale to have a randomized design with a stand standard treatment group is questionable and practically very difficult especially in pediatric or children's oncology the best method remains to be defined another reason is due to the reputation of the therapy inventor who has legally defeated the FDA itself in five Federal grand juries and two sets of juried federal trials when you add all of these reasons up it becomes easy to understand why no hospital will step out on a limb to participate in these trials since any prospective patient doing a Google search for anti- neoplas on or its inventor is met with a slew of negativity the same is true if any current past or future patient posts anything on Facebook or Twitter they are instantly met with an onslaught of harassment and intimidation that has been carefully crafted and executed by a well organized International [Music] Group who call themselves The Skeptics they're hidden behind that keyboard so they can say whatever they like and they're properly paid by the Pharmaceuticals and I'm sure they're in Hawk with uh with the governments with people that you know make a living out of being Skeptics to keep everything suppressed you can't dare up the truth come out because that would be because it would cost the government too much money yeah I've been working uh for the last couple of months with some fairly big names in the skeptical movement and people you'd be surprised you'd be working on the same team to combine forces uh legal teams and budgets and we're going to bring uh brazinsky a present on his um on his birthday booah the FDA needs to to step up and stop participating in this transparent on going scam um by no longer approving patients who want to participate in his unpromising imaginary trials people who want to step up and protect these patients can do something very very important and that's right about this man and about his Clinic uh and his treatment anti-neoplastic we need to saturate the normal channels by which people come to him with better information and I can't think of a better reason to do it than to see that brazinski is uh widely exposed and ridiculed as as the uh uh uh unproven um kind of uh quack that he is quite frankly when you talk about people at their last ditch efforts to fight cancer especially children it's really difficult not to look like a a heartless cynical skeptic I know it doesn't sound good to the people who are there right now they're they are funding his future campaigns of deception and and that's what we're trying to stop my time is better spent warning the people who don't believe yet and the people who are you know in Bin's Camp can stay in his camp and I'm not going to try to dissuade them but I am going to try to dissuade him from recruiting any more customers absolutely absolutely he's going to be hearing from us to Polish sausage [Laughter] you when we met Dr bazinsky he is without shadow of a doubt one of the kindest this is ridiculous all these people in the world that think this man is a crook or a charlatan they don't really know what's going on they haven't looked into it they've just heard or read something you know we spent seven weeks there yeah and if that guy's a fraud then he's the biggest fraud it's the biggest scam ever and there is a really strange relationship that he has with his patients um it it's almost a fanatical uh Devotion to him above all reason something that you see a lot in Cults um what a cult does it brings people in and makes them dependent on the cult for something and you see that being repeated over and over and over in the patient testimonials uh there's a seriously called a personality around the leader uh it really does feel a lot like a sort of death cult we've had some therapy because of everything we've been through understandably everyone would you know when I started my side of the therapy on my own I I was actually quite shocked to find that everything I was talking about like how stressed I was and just how I couldn't switch off all the time was all to do with the fundraising and the stress of trying to raise money while people were trying to stop us raise money and I think the most one of the most stressful things obviously apart from Laura being being ill with cancer the second most stressful thing was trying to deal with all this criticism really I mean it's come close to like tearing Our Lives apart to be honest we've had an 18mon old son to look after and we've got these people basically telling Laura she should just die forget choosing yeah one actually did say that as well or wrote it in in a message Bard um that I should just accept that I'm going to die uh brazinski adopts none of the risks that any other researcher adopts charging terminal patients upfront a common skeptic criticism of the brazinski clinic is charging money for the therapy upfront before the treatment begins since insurance companies generally refuse to pay for it we end up getting our insurance company to pay I can't mention name of the insurance company because we end up were forced to sign a gag order brinsky staff was paid you know under the table when we had to sign this gag order I'm thinking wow they they're going through all these steps to sit there and have to conceal that what that they're paying for something that they're got forced to pay for to maybe save a kid in 2008 the Wall Street Journal published an expose explaining how nonprofit hospitals such as MD Anderson Cancer Center asked one patient for $115,000 in cash before admitting her MD Anderson's Vice President of Finance said asking patients to pay after they've received a treatment is like asking someone to pay for a car after they've driven off the lot um you see a lot of people saying well the reason why he can't do his trials is because cost $200 million to do a trial I don't know where they're getting that number and that um you know he's not getting any external funding so he has to charge people out the nose um and that's just not how it works it's really difficult for people to understand about paying for something yourself so when we found out how much the bazinsky treatment was yes it's a lot of money but if you put it into context of chemotherapy we met someone at a clinic in Texas whose daughter was having chemotherapy and their medical bill which was covered by their medical insurance fortunately was $800,000 for the month so when you think that the bazinsky treatment is $110,000 a month or less then it's relatively cheap but it's just difficult for people to get their heads around actually paying out of your own pocket the Skeptics have hijacked and locked the Wikipedia page age on the brzinsky clinic blocking all neutral contributions in their efforts to sway any prospective patients from considering this therapy the only neutral information found in this entry is brzinsky date of birth and prior medical education the skeptic responsible for this article also compiles and publishes death lists of previous [Music] patients most all of whom were children who died of brain M Goma he then republishes the lists on various websites giving the illusion that they are coming from more than one source this skeptic receives funding from America's Department of Defense the National Cancer Institute the American Society for clinical oncology the breast cancer research foundation and the pharmaceutical industry in another of his paid positions for a National Geographic syndicated blog this writer uses a different name and publishes articles about patients undergoing anti- neoplas on treatment and the therapy itself on a near weekly basis in um October when we released uh stable results we put two scans up we put September and October up it's the same size but it started to break down a bit so we were happy we put these scan pictures up on our website the next 6 weeks later we did another scan and it trunk 36% so we told everyone this news released it on our website he then did an article and using a link to the previous scans as his evidence saying look at these scans it's clearly not shrunk you know he's lying to them we've got a message for any people that have been disrespectful to me try to try to stop people yeah try to stop people donating to me to help me get better so I can see my son grow up I want to tell you all basically stick your noses out of our business yeah and off and off now that dozens of successful anti- neoplas on Phase 2 trials are complete it is the responsibility of the inventor to publish the details of those trials in the peer-reviewed medical literature allowing it to be shared globally with the scientific Community up until 2006 articles containing anti- neoplas on studies have been consistently accepted in various medical journals on November 26th 2012 an anti- neoplan Phase 2 study regarding patients who lived between 8 to 16 years after being diagnosed with a gleo blastoma multiform the same type of incurable brain tumor Laura heus had was rejected by the Lancet oncology 2 hours after it was submitted the reason for the lancet's rejection was simply we have decided not to publish it because we believe the message would be better elsewhere the most common argument from medical scientists who dismiss all cases of people cured using an anti neoplas on as being merely anecdotal comes from the absence of any randomized controlled clinical trials science must be born in doubt an anecdotal event produce a scientific mind anecdotal is very important but if you report anecdote anecdotal anecdotal doesn't do anything good it's not persuing it's not convincing that's why we we did the randomiz study the motivation why we started this research on anti plason for the last 27 years we did not believe Dr binski blindly would like to see very much the effect of of an plasm by our own eyes in our own way we did the phase one study first we would like to know that how much dose the patient could tolerate we use antin blaston A10 and as2 D1 injection formula and uh oral formula in the 43 patient about 50% of patient are responding to this combination therapy with antino blasting 18 and as21 we published this result from the phase one clinical study since we found the better response in the cancer of the liver we decided to concentrate our study on the LI cancer study and uh we move our research to phade two clinical trial we found the as2 d one could obviously prolong disease free interval and overall survival so we moved to the prospective randomized clinical trial in this study we subjected the liver metastasis from colum we divided the patient into two groups randomly in controlled and an treated group 30 patient in antinone group and 33 patient in control group and the in antinone group we add a antinas A10 injection for one week as1 capsule for at least one year in addition to the intraarterial hepatic infusion 5 Fu in control group The about 50% of the patient live the around 36 months in antias group 50% of the patient lives about 70 months so it's you know obviously the antop makes it longer about double the scientific Community invented the randomized study for not only excluded the anex data they are avoiding the bias this has been done in kman University Hospital uh completely independent from any other Institute or we are not uh given advice from binski either this is the way the the scientist should be without first without doubt the data from the binski and we tested it we found that the Dr binski was right it's it's not obviously anecdotal [Music] anymore if cancer was cured today there's a lot of Institutions around the US especially our universities but also in the Pharma industry that would all of a sudden lose a lot of money and and with the NIH the university gets matching funds to to keep the buildings and all the other things that so universities especially that are into cancer research they don't really have an incentive to find that cure because then it all dries up as much as you you know may not like that that's the way our system is it's not the Star Trek world where if What You Need Is What You Get and la la la but it is reality and money wins money votes money does everything and it controls our government as much as we hate to admit it it uh motivates the pharmaceutical industry we're not out in the PHA world as the Comm commercials will tell you that we're out there to make everybody healthy and happy and that's not why they're out there they're they're there to make money period the best drugs in the Pharma world are the ones that people have to continue taking forever and ever and ever and ever that's what the big money is they want to be able to dose people over and over and over keep them alive for a couple years at least on all the drugs that's the incentive for making money think it through a little bit it's sad but it's reality if you found the cure for cancer boom now what now you're not doing nothing and you're out of business too [Music] isn't it sad that all these years later we're now 15 16 17 years later and it's deja vu all over again this is all a rehab cash of what they did in the '90s we worked night and day to organize the patients without this treatment my son will die to get the Congressional hearings underway out of 52 cases of that disease ever no one died cancer-free just Chrissy so she didn't die of a criminal illness she died because there's a government institution that disseminates false information and is not looking out for the welfare of the people if it weren't for the efforts of our group and all of the patients who contributed their time their effort and their money Dr binski might not have survived the trial and he would be rotting away in a jail cell today there's got to be a way to level the playing field that does not favor the Ms and the Bristol Meyers and the large drug companies there should be a system developed where we can encourage uh um uh Innovative uh research that's being done by the sole practitioner the sole researcher that's the problem let's look at Medical breakthroughs in 1920 Banting in best or Banting up in Canada had discovered insulin and had this idea that if insulin could be given to a patient with diabetes type 1 diabetes it would cure the condition within 2 years uh Eli Lily had insulin in drugstores let's skip another 20 years pneumonia was a Scourge until Fleming discovered penicillin now penicillin was used pneumonia left we haven't had a medical breakthrough in 50 years because Today medical breakthroughs put at risk the entire Financial underpinnings if you have medical breakthroughs that replace therapy that are failing then the profits and the and the cash flow of those therapies that are failing is lost and lost forever so that is the biggest barrier to brazinski or anybody else that brings on a therapy that is superior to what is done today hence we haven't had any major medical breakthroughs uh for the last 50 years so what do we have we have this Outreach of awareness we got people running around with all kinds of colored ribbons saying that I am aware of breast cancer we got football players wearing pink shoelaces increasing awareness of breast cancer there was no movement to increase the awareness of diabetes there was no movement to increase the awareness of pneumonia there is no need for any movement to increase your awareness of any disease you got a serious disease in in your culture you are aware of it and what awareness doesn't do it doesn't cure the disease it's not going to lead to the Cure CU today virtually every serious disease has a huge vested interest in the therapies that people are paying money for that fail so everything is locked but you you come across with something that cures cancer [Music] while I was entering the MRI machine I was made aware that the FDA entered bazinsky Clinic one day prior if the results of this FDA visit ends badly and my cancer returns I might not get the option of Ever Getting Antonio plast dos again and I'm going to talk you through the first scan that I saw and the last scan that we are going to see now thank you what we see is is uh that leion is markedly reduced in size rim enhancement has gone as well it shows that lur has been really responding well to treatment okay there is no sign of residual disease at all that's great I can't imagine a world where other people will not have the privilege that I have had the privilege to have their life saved by a new technology that can cure cancer is terrifying [Music] [Music] thing [Music] we would like to publish the our data in this randomized study to the medical journal I hope the uh big medical journal will accept the our experience the our we we have done in the past 27 years yeah I hope I don't know the big general or not this thing is bigger to than brazinski because it represents is a true breakthrough where Generations from separated from us 30 40 years if brazinski was liberated or if his if his therapy was liberated Generations separated won't be thinking about cancer we're not thinking about pneumonia and we're not thinking about diabetes so they will not be thinking about cancer can you imagine a society where women are not terrified by mammograms and men are not kind of semi raped with all this prostate stuff can you think of of a culture living without this Perpetual fear of cancer that's what brazinsky Discovery offers the concept of antias treatment has not easily accepted in general meaning but you know if you open them your mind and uh if you you willing to accept any concept coming in just think about the the benefit for the patient that's all that's a all purpose of the medicine there I think it is only human to want to seek treatment for a disease that is considered to be almost universally fatal we can obviously only offer the treatment that we ourselves offer but I'm always pleased if a patient's treatment is going successfully and that their disease is either remitting or go into remission for whatever reason always cor anything think of anything excuse me anything else you would like to yeah anything else you want to say all right not with cameras running okay cool turn everything off you turn everything off and then I'll speak to you okay Co