what is good foundation Nation today we finally got our hands on the new project grip from laude 64 so if you don't know what project grip is basically latitude made a post a little bit ago of how they had a patent pending you can see it there on a technology that allowed you to have a stiff rim with a middle that had this like grip skin more or less like a different a different plastic two different this has the ability to combine different Plastics on the same disc is what they're trying to patent here opens up a world of possibilities of project grip Focus has been to develop discs that offer a combination of exceptional grip and a stiff torque resistant structure a feet that is pretty much impossible with the conventional disc production now that we have them in hand what you think hun say something Hunter does it feel like world like it's know it it's nothing it's not the craziest thing I've ever felt by any means you can tell that there's like a middle the middle feels like I would almost say sticky like the middle feels like grippier stickier and the rim just feels like they're normal plastic you're looking for it if you just picked it up off the shelf you'd be like yeah you handed me this I would just be like oh man it's a really tacky plastic one thing that is interesting that I've noticed is the rim stiffness just controls how your mind thinks about the disc cuz like to me this whole disc just makes sense like I don't feel like the middle is crazy gummy compared to the about the stiff um the middle is definitely grippier than the rim but it's not drastic there's nothing about this that is like holy cow that's the most drastic thing I've ever seen in this humid weather it feels like it's going to stick in my hand it doesn't feel like it it doesn't feel like it's coming out what we wanted to do is we're going to take the project grip disc so we have first off we have a Grace here we have a Explorer this is a compass and then they also sent a uh pure so oh driver Fairway mid putter full line up here and we were like wait so the rim is different plastic than the center where have we heard that before inner tone plastic from Clash AB Underside different plastic stiffer plastic the top allows grippier let me see if I can actually find what how Clash describes tone plastic I was say my question is according to their patent that they described if that patent went through it sounds like they wouldn't be able to make tone plastic well the patent is very all patents are like super specific on a processor on something so as long as tone like this is seems like it's two different Plastics the same mold however they figured it out as long as Tone's doing this a different way like maybe this is two different injection points and they're fused after or something yeah these almost feel like they're fused after the fact maybe not I don't know so this is this is how tone describes it this is going to sound very similar the bottom of the rim is made of a stiffer plastic which makes the disc very torque resistant the top of the disc is made of a very grippy premium plastic mixture which guarantees the best possible feel when throwing in any condition they combine the best properties of two different plastic in a completely new way sounds very similar to what I just read think I've seen this film before so what's interesting is they're claiming lab 264 claims um in the patent that this they figured this out in 2022 tone plastic just released early this year or late last year 2023 2024 probably early this year somewhere in that range and then Inova dark 1986 Dark Horse Inova came out of left field and said once this got announced they brought up on a post on Instagram about how Dave dunipace figured this out in like 2018 and that led to Halo plastic and what and once theyed Halo they igned what to this so everyone's claiming they did it first we're not here to decide who did it first we're here to decide what's better project grip or tone plastic and we're doing it the only way we know how ble a face off a foundation face off we only know how to do things through violence I'm going to slap Trevor with all these discs he's going to slap me with all those that'll be the video whoever see who which one sticks on Whose face yeah whoever is in more pain but softer how we're actually going to do this is I'll take grip on hole one Trevor will take tone plastic on hole one and then we'll flipflop and we're going to play nine holes we're going to have the score follow the discs Trevor score disc winner today yeah the the well we're deciding a group of discs winner either the project grip or tone plastic score follows the discs that way if Trevor's having an on day and I'm having an off day or vice versa doesn't matter you get it all s is 180t par three I'm going to go with the Explorer here very tacky I wish you could feel it cuz like it's so it's like Conor I'll give them a POV okay it's like Conor wow we everyone watching we can feel what it feels like when you're when you're just holding a disc you only feel the middle plastic you don't feel the rim like the Rim's in here but all of my sensory fingertips are on the middle so it just the disc just feels like a normal just grippy plastic dude that resisted your cor none of it matters if it comes out early I'm going to throw the soda here probably not going to be able to give us a lot of turn this will be a finesse before hand I'm really good at forehand last few days I've thrown a lot of good forehand why we got getting that low oh my gosh you think after you throw so hot that was okay all right it's up there it's pin high I would say so far tone plastic way better all right I'm going to try to throw the pure here little anheiser I feel like I have to throw every shot as a Pat and pending since it says Pat and pending on it oh no I think I'm not making an excuse we just started playing I'll get used to it but I think how grippy it feels in my hand is making me be so scared of holding on to it for so long that I'm releasing it really early cuz I'm terrified forone roll remember this isn't me versus Trevor this is Project grip versus yeah I'm I was like I'm talking I assume the personality of the disc while I'm using them now I hate these discs I'm on the next so I hate them yeah 330 foot par three tone has the lead which means I have the box how funny is that all that hard work you did yeah I just can't win not me it's the discs oh you're right arrow not the Archer that was an interesting place to throw look at that oh what the middle of the Fairway that's an interesting place to throw all remember not you against him Hunter hey hey I was talking to hey man okay I throw floor oh my gosh Trevor so far my opinions of project grip is I think it's the best dis ever created holy cow oh my gosh there there's something to be said about that how about that we're way up here I'm going to throw the piure right in there oh nice toss dude project grip might be my might be what makes me good at Disc Off how do you so you are a guy who does if you don't mind me saying mhm you are a guy who does have historically slippery hands yes because of the sweat absolutely how do you feel like they combat the sweat it doesn't take my hands long to start sweating they already have moisture on them right now in the first toll I did grub some dirt on them the second hole where I just threw that Flex forehand I did not rub any dirt on it I felt confident in my grip on the disc and not every disc would feel that way most times in this humidity I would have to chalk up a lot before throwing a forehand I didn't chalk up and I threw it well so yeah that matters we'll see how it goes as we get further in and I sweat more all that impressive stuff Trevor's done gets ER Ras with this one putter hey it's not you against him Hunter yeah what in the heck sorry I'll redo it you can just cut all that impressive stuff that project grip's done gets erased by this little putter cut that cut it nice Trev I mean project grip oh what's that the tone of the chains here it comes oh if I would have known puns were allowed I would have started like that it's all square all right 200 foot par three here I'm going to go with the pure I'll be very curious after we play nine holes like does the grip layer wear off a lot like as dirt gets on there and stuff like that like does it get Slicker I didn't even think about that cuz I feel like the pure feels Slicker already the top of it already feels like a normal more like a normal disc wow good Thro I will look at Hunter look at Hunter there is something about a way of pure fly is you had a pure in your bag for a wild hunter you were really good with it I did it's just I had to bump the pa3 out popcorn action here I might to put the project grip kiss might put the project grip here in my bag just for the swag points that is swag points that is swag points H threw it okay you mean the tone plastic threw it okay it's not you against Hunter correct no no no yes the tone plastic threw it okay I guess I get to go first this time well sorry project grip gets go first this time yeah is it or grip grip grip Trevor keeps adding the te you mean the Ed or the Ed yeah I it kind of reminds me of when you're a kid grip Revenge when you're a kid and you set up your like army figures or your cars and like you're playing on both sides that's what I feel like we're doing right now it's fun you're playing chess against yourself yeah it's refreshing there is another person much less civilized we're going to go the pier here in this little Hiser hole it would be awesome if I get an Ace and Hunter gives me a big hug hug me brother you know Jos good throw that was pretty pretty good throw time pretty good throw a tante if you will oh that one's straight fine really straight good P you see the way that bounced off the chains just then yes it kind of sprung that's something we didn't really test yet I'll share my opinions when the time was right baby going with the grace here first throw with the grace oh oh I turned her can we like switch after every throw who no you don't like that I think these are salts right yeah y great shot Trevor forand predominant player oh boy no way holy buns h fortnite shield on this basket oh my goshes nice good job man this the discs yeah the disc that one's a man nice Trevor nice Trevor I mean tone 200 foot par three right there right there right there right there I'm going go the putter I like the way you throw it right there that was nice that was thrown very hard you did I was going to tell you right before you threw it threw it remember that's not that stable and I feel like you threw it the right line you just Chuck like a mad hard real hard I don't need thr Claymore yet so I'm glad you're doing this Compass yeah like I said we haven't thrown a claymore yet yeah I don't have to throw a mid-range to get there like I throw it really far but I'm going to throw the mid-range cuz cuz we need to not cuz I need it to get there I understand like you guys know I throw really far should a lefty heer scientific Integrity out the door short bad disc I was trying to get really cheek with that since I knew I what kind of cheeky do you mean everybody was talking so much crap this is a good drive I'm going to make birdie I'm not going to make Birdie the grip disc is going to make birdie still feels really grippy to me a slipped out of my hand oh full disclosure it touched my big toe wow so this whole thing has to be thrown out the window yeah I'm sorry it wouldn't have touch your big toe you probably would have missed that part so just keep that in mind time to open up a can of Hiser nice Trev come on here's a can opener thank you sir thanks for the noises Mr Foley sir that's gorgeous what this was that oh that's is for sure in the water yeah the down no that is that is in the middle of the pond large Dr Hunter block and dropped it on this teapad Compass nice that thing looks so sick until it didn't I actually that is what the is that how you meant to throw that yeah that was sick that was sick thank you really yeah that was awesome I was just trying to throw it and turn it a little bit stay up D dang it Hunter be better nice TR it took three as the days went on temperatures have gotten hotter Oh my days uh honestly the project grip discs are feeling better and better I'm not going to lie to you the like sticky tackiness is gone it's worn worn off so now it really is just like a really grippy plastic and has gotten hotter I feel like the rim stiffness hasn't really changed on it but the like middle has gotten gummier so something to keep in mind but I thought it'd be a fun game after I picked up the disc out of the basket and thought they feel really similar to see can Trevor identify we're going to give him 2 seconds so basically instantly grab squeeze cuz he just wants to feel the plastic I don't want him to feel the mold can he identify if it's tone plastic or if it's project grip all right Trevor I'm going hand you dis behind your back you ready I just grab and squeeze grab squeeze and just tell me the plastic I maybe I'll pinch grip it so I'm not even on the rim that's tone okay there's one oh heavens that might not have been tone here's number two okay here's two tone okay number three grab first one could have been grip as well the first one was grip yeah two or three two or three I'm let me be let me be frank with you guys Frank I was deciding that completely based on what the mold felt like okay well then let me not cheat well because it was in my head what was I supposed to ignore that like that second one you handed me felt so obvious like a clash mode I couldn't just be like well let me ignore that I appreciate your integrity Trev grip tone tone nailed it come on well I think once you held the second putter probably should have been a pretty good clue that second putter is pretty obvious I I intentionally didn't give you two Putters we both went two here what we actually need to do is lay them out and you get like to touch the the like just the top of it run your hand along the top cuz as soon as you pinch and you can feel the shape of the rim it's like I know what molds we're throwing today but if you're just doing this just the top of the disc there you go just the top I um much harder okay I think it's grip I think that was Project grip I just ended right here that was tone I think that's all we I have no okay well now it's the you yeah no I think it's impossible I'm going to give you two okay here's your your first one you're fair man I'm going to say that's tone I'm not impressed by that okay here's your second one that's grip you don't know why cuz I felt it impress so that's kind of cheating here's your third one you said you were going to give me two um okay interesting CH Oh I thought that was a good shot until Trevor said interesting choice did you really I did cuz it wasn't that good of a shot I thought it was tucked in more no I mean you can see the basket more from where I'm standing I guess I couldn't see the basket at all Trevor was really short Trevor is short guy Trevor 5' eight yeah coow oh what so much GL all right two different ways to play disc golf that was a pretty sick double par on the easiest hole in the universe nice H 240 ft of pure heat I'm you're throwing a heat this is the final hole we who they didn't want to assume um the personality I don't even know what I'm saying these discs are tied up right now you got to be funny or they won't like you no one watches it cuz you're funny they watch because you're so good see you're funny thanks man that's a really good safe layup shot little baby layup boy I'm going to make that putt all over your face sorry your or is the tone plat I am I am sick layup frosi that is so short of the basket both pretty okay [Music] shots what are you guessing for do you have a big I just beat you I beat you that's why I'm holding the project grip discs I won you're holding the loser disc loser boy hold on a second hold on a second all right you switch after every hole Yeah okay interesting no dang it what you going to do now I tried hard I came I fought I tried everything just couldn't do it couldn't get it out pull it off in the end here's what I think about the project grip latitudes prototype molds that's not even true after playing around with them like when I when we first opened the box I was underwhelmed I expected to feel like oh wow this is brand new this is crazy after playing around now the Sheen's kind of worn off a little bit we've got some dirt on it the like this disc is kind of sticky is gone it just feels grippy I wouldn't call it sticky anymore I'd call it grippy I'd bag these and in the sun in the heat you can really tell the rim did not get that much gummier and the middle definitely did so what's interesting is I love soft plastic so I love the middle here like that's a I would have a whole disc in that plastic feels great to me Trevor does not like soft plastic he doesn't like the rim bending feels great to him yeah so that means it's accomplishing what it's meant to where the rim stayed stiff but the middle gives you really good grip Trevor also made a good point Point very humid out here you can see the sweat I didn't rub my hand in dirt once so that speaks to both of these discs cuz here's what I will also say is I feel as though tone plastic accomplishes a similar thing yeah yeah I agree I would say like tone plastic it's a different feel in the hand because you have like this Rim feels very different whereas this feels a little more cohesive the rim feels different you can definitely tell the underside but I'm saying as far as like this is stiff and The Middle's gummy yeah I feel like both do that two different ways to accomplish it preference so uh but hey if you have an opportunity to get your hand on Project grip it did just win the battle thanks a lot 64 for sponsoring this video not true we bought these we so that's how you know we're not not biased we paid for them just like everyone we buy it we buy it we buy it not buy it not bias that could be a really funny series name yeah we buy it not bias we got we own that we own that can't have it patent pending on we buy it not bias pended we got it whenever these come out to the public check them out very unique he [Music]