Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dylan show. You know, Regis and Kathy Lee are done. Kelly and Michael, I think, are done. I don't even know who's the new Anderson Cooper and whoever. Uh, I just think in this country needs a new morning show. And it would look exactly or very similar to this. I think this is what we might have a little bit of a nicer backdrop, but a a morning show for America would be Candace and Tim in the morning. We lead with the person who's she's just done a little better, let's be honest, in follower counts and exposure. And I am I will tag right along. And uh I mean, first of all, thank you for doing this. Candace and Tim. Candace. Oh, yeah. For sure. It was egregious. And Kelly, I play my position. I know the deal. Candace and Tim, I fully know my I fully play my position. I show up, you hand me an index card, I'm good. I go for sure. Yeah. Okay. Good. Great. Um, you know, we I I wanted to tell you a fun story that I think you'll like. I don't you I know that you probably you you know your reach, but I think it surprises you sometimes. I was at the Beverly Hills Hotel. A French guy who checks me in all the time. Goes, "Get over here." I thought there was like a problem in the hotel. I didn't know what was going on. I thought there was a leak in the room. He goes, "Listen." He's whispering in the lobby of the hotel. He goes, "Are you watching the Candace Owens expose right now?" And I said, "Yeah, kind of a little bit." And he goes, "Oh my god." He goes, "I'm from France." And he goes, "I believe it's true." And he's like, "I know people who've seen weird stuff." And we just started giggling like school girls and talking watching Candace Owens this amaz because you've now become like this wild investigative like you do these deep dives into stuff and it it's really wild and like it was just really fun to me that you know this guy who's just is checking me into a hotel was really like watching your content and then he's on this thing's blown up in France everywhere. I mean, it is the most international thing I've ever done and I could not have ever predicted that it would be that big. And the funny thing is is if Emanuel Mcronone had not sent me that letter threat, we were only going to do one episode. Oh my god. It's like I was so angry that he had the audacity to send a server processor to Nashville, Tennessee. And I'm, you know, I'm a little testy when I'm pregnant. I'll give you that. You know, like, but like someone is going to knock on my front door and say, "The president of France says you're not allowed to speak or else." So, it's a challenge. So, I was like, "Okay, like now we're really doing this thing." Like, I already knew he married a dude, you know? But now we're really doing this thing and we just poured hours and hours and hours into just more research, tagging it on, making sure people could follow it themselves and understand like this wasn't like for funsies. It's like he actually married a dude. What was interesting about this thing, I mean, you go on this I mean, I don't want to call it a treasure hunt, but you go you go on this really exhaustive trip, this research into Breijit Mcronone, who by the way, a lot of people in France agree with you. They know of all political stripes. And by the way, gay people transmit. Like this is not like a this a lot of people are like one of the journalists who look into this was a gay journalist. Like a lot of people are like, "Yeah, something's up here." Mhm. Something's up. Oh, it's more than up. It is like 1,000% true. Or else the way that he could have stopped the entire docu series, for those people who haven't like watched it. Yeah. We then wrote back to the president and his mister um at the LA Palace and said, "I'm glad you opened up lines of communication. We're not interested. We're not in the business of defaming anyone. You I'm not I would make a fool of myself, right? So, if you would just kindly answer this yes or no question like were you born a woman, a female, Rajit, we'll include this and we'll stop the series." They declined to do it. So it's you mean who would not stop if I'm like I'm about to do this huge piece and you can stop it by simply answering yes or no but they couldn't do that because then they would have been lying on record. It would have opened up way more issues and in unfortunately he's not familiar with law in America. But in order to reach that actual malice standard you have to show that we acted in reckless disregard for the truth. you refused to say the truth and it was just this pompous 100page we don't have to answer whether or not like Breijit is a woman or a man. What a bizarre thing to say. It's such an odd story because what it does what's very interesting about the story to me there's many layers to it and what it really calls into question is how much do we know about the people who run our lives? Nothing. So this is what's really interesting to me. These people are introduced at some point as the best option to lead whatever. I think one of the reasons Trump was so popular is that people knew him for 30 years. Love him, hate him, multiple wives, this that and the other. You know, people say nasty things about him. People adore him, but they know him. He's not, you know, certain people, Bill Clinton is governing the smallest state in America and is then thrust into the spotlight. Mhm. Barack Obama, a lot of people on the right wing just emerge and they become, you know, a household name immediately. We don't know. No one is doing a lot of research into the back stories of any of these people, right? And when we do, we're attack. You're being attacked. It's like cra it's the craziest. I'm like, what is happening? And it's so much crazier because there's stuff that I can't say on record just yet. Of course, I'll tell you off camera, but it's gotten even crazier in terms of like Emanuel has really come undone because he has never been this exposed. Everyone kind of already knew in France because in France it was being like a it was a bubble, but the journalists again on the left were the ones that fell down the hole as they were trying to write these uh honestly they were trying to prop up Breijit. They were trying to write these feminist pieces about Breijie and then suddenly Yeah. They're like, "Oh, they were trying to do like the Michelle Obama. Oh, this is amazing for women." And then when they tried to do any bit of research, they fell down a hole because the person didn't exist. And then suddenly they were being called into the Ellie a palace. Like imagine I'm like, "I'm going to write this glowing piece about Ivanka Trump and her childhood." And suddenly you get called in and you have Secret Service being like, "What are you working on?" Right? And there's no what do you No, there's Yeah. You can't do You can't do here's what you're going to write and let me tell you how it's going to go. And people were going, "This is weird. Why can't I find or confirm anything? Why are they locking down yearbooks? Imagine if you were like, I'm I'm going to write about kids. I'm like, I'm going to Stanford High School. And then suddenly like Stanford High School starts locking down yearbooks. Something's not right here. This is not It should be very easy to fact check that somebody existed. Very easy to find at least a few photos of somebody. I know you in the hospital when you gave birth to your three kids. Is that right? Take that first photo. But you also go into this thing. And by the way, you know, this some of this is and I you've just uh when you're doing this, the sense of humor I I don't know if you know how funny it is, but it is I mean it's laugh out loud and I mean the staff at these hotels where we're all just watching and people like the richest people in the world like hey our room services were like can you relax? We're on episode three. There's six episodes. We have a lot to do. Um but it's very funny you delivered this stuff. First of all this idea that really struck me about this whole thing was number one she gets together with him. He's like 15, right? So this it's already weird. It started weird. Already like a huge problem. It's like you're 40 and he's 16. So even if this was above board, he's 14, you're 40. We got a problem. Huge problem. But then it is This is what really makes me laugh. It is. And Candace, you got to if you haven't watched this, you got to watch it because she handles this in a very funny way. It's sold that this is like a voluuptuous model that like is un like no one could resist this woman. Like every guy in class is going to be looking at this woman going like this woman is voluuptuous and really attractive and like she's just a Claudia Schiffer. Claudia Schiffer. Yeah. And then the photos come out of Rim Mcronone and immediately you go they're lying about everything. Like everything's a lie. Like you see this and immediately you go, "Wait a minute. Hold on. Everything seems to be a lie. We've all seen beautiful women and we know what good-looking women look like. There's nothing wrong. You know what I mean? It's like this isn't a voluuptuous French. This is a gym teacher, a PE teacher. Yeah. They they already when they were trying to run a manual, they knew they had to justify this weird age gap. And so the the press went out was 48 and 15. It it was uh well if at best they were trying to tell 40 and 14 okay at best which is illegal but actually it's 48 and 14 because we know that the crazy once you get to the end of it you realize you know this is Jean Michelle Trog no but if if she actually had been breit the she stole um then she would have been it would have been 40 and 14 so they first went to the press and wrote a bunch of confusing articles like oh actually no he was 15 and they sold him as this like virtuoso Mozart and she was just supposed to be, according to the press, we just read the articles and nobody actually found pictures of her, this just irresistible, drop dead Claudia Schiffer, sexy, all the boys, imagine their hormones running, they're horny, like, "Oh, we all we love this teacher. She's so hot." And then you see the actual photos of her. And you're like, "No boy, no. No boy, not one boy at this school, not even one boy at this school was into this. So, what is this? Why did the press even lie to us about that?" And then you start realizing something's very wrong here with this picture. Something's very wrong here. And then you start and then you you do this amazing job of because there's a lot of people that have looked into this in France and they've been defamed and sued. Mhm. Detained. Detained. Detained. Uh the main journalist on this had to move his family because they were trying to get him on taxes like, you know, I will find any crime. And they started going after people for really small and petty things. And they didn't care who's writing about this. They are going after everybody. And it's weird for a story with no legs or for something that's completely untrue. Why would they be detaining people? Why would a president of a a country send a letter to Nashville, Tennessee? That's crazy. To like a pregnant woman that's like recording from her basement that tells you the story is true. I mean, there's no otherwise you'd be like, well, part of being a president, people write stuff about you all the time. the stuff they said about Trump, you know, like he's not going to you can't chase down every person that's saying something unless there's something here that you're very fearful of and it's terrifying when you get to it. What do you think the reaction is in I mean the the palace to when this line of inquiry starts coming from you from someone in America with a massive platform are they panicked? Yes, they are panicked. They are making phone calls. Their lawyers are still calling my lawyers. They still asked uh for us to take down the series because they were afraid when Joe Rogan mentioned it recently. So, they made another phone call and were basically like, you know, we could still sue you in the future, but maybe we just want to take it down. And I'm like, have they not worked through my character? Stop with these phone calls. I was I said to my lawyer, "If they call again, we're doing a season two." Because I left a lot on the table, you know? I basically was like, "There's so much here." No, if they call again, you're getting you're gonna get this on Netflix. If they call again, calling pregnant Candace. No, of course. Of course. Now, you go through this whole thing. This opens these interesting doors. Right now, a lot of people, you find yourself in this subterranean world that most people don't know exists, right? where you have intelligence agencies and these programs, things like MK Ultra. Now, some people do know about this stuff. Some people are, you know, really well educated on this stuff. Some people are have a passing familiarity with it. But they were mind control programs um that were in America. They were all over the place. And these were programs that were utilized to turn um you know people into um essentially slaves that could be programmed to do things whether it was uh assassinate someone and not remember why or who told you to do it right or be a sex slave or perhaps in a mury and candidate fashion run the government run a country run a country and that is who Emanuel Mcronone is and the craziest part so that's your That's kind of the I mean by the time I looked at everything, think about this. This is a guy who was sold to the public as a virtuoso Marso. He was a Mozart. He was just so brilliant. When you get to the episode where I explain to you that essentially just so Americans understand this, they have a program that every person who runs a bank goes through. Let's call it like a graduate program like going to maybe UPEN and getting your MBA. It's slightly different, but just for sake of understanding here. So he went to this program after failing to get into it three times. Then magically so they was like, "Okay, you can get in." And not only did he then get in, but he graduated at the top of his class. There were some like tests that they had to do and he graduated and everyone on campus knew he was an idiot. Okay. For the first time in that college's university or program's history, the students revolted and said, "These are clearly fake test scores. There's no way this idiot Emanuel Mcronone was the got the number one grade in this. We all know he's an idiot." And so for the first time in that program's history, because the kids were so outraged, they just canceled results because they they they made it up that he that he like finished it off his class. Beyond that, he then goes and works for Rothschild's Bank, right? Is the youngest ever managing partner. The people that work at Rothschild's Bank said he was such an idiot. He didn't even know what ibida meant. But they all knew that David Rothschild just like, you know, plucked him up and that was like, you know, to essentially give him a fake. He never defined himself intellectually in any capacity. No. and he and he's top of his class and now he's working raw child bank the youngest managing whatever. Yeah. And so that was done by the Wall Street Journal who did a book on this. So that's this isn't like we're finding this stuff on Reddit threads that people spoke out and were like he was such an idiot but it didn't matter and we understood that he was like protected Rothschild and they needed to kind of create this fake resume for him to make people think he was a genius. He's not man is not smart. And when the traditional press is looking into this and they're finding similar things to what you're finding, how are they presenting this idea that this kind of like empty suit of a guy is like failing upwards. Yeah. I think what a lot of these mainstream journalists do is they kind of say what they have to say in a very professional way and they leave it for the people like me to then kind of It's a good point. You know, go there and say, "Hey guys, this is what a Manurian candidate would look like." Uh these people tend to always be in drama classes. It's just like Zalinski is obviously so right. Actually thinking that Zalinski is running the country. He's a literal president in a show and they all are in these they're all in drama classes. I always imagine Vladimir Putin finding that out and go be almost being like what the CIA is not even trying. No, that I I feel that way. It's not even It's so crazy. I do feel that way. I do. I often picture calling Khloe Kardashian to run Yeah. the Ukraine. Yeah. I wouldn't even say like Khloe I could probably buy more than Zalinski. He's just it's so it's like who is behind you? Why are we doing this? That was why they freaked out about the Tucker Putin interview because Putin at one point when Tucker asked a question about what about the president or whatever or he they shook hands with Bill Clinton agreed to something and Putin was kind of like I don't deal with your presidency. I deal with the CIA. Like your presidents are just kind of like they come they go. They Yeah. their puppets. Like I got to deal with the CIA and these are the sorts of things they don't want the public to know, right? Because we need to all believe in this illusion like you voted this person in and this person's really running things and the deep state doesn't exist. But never and I and I've come to terms with that a long time ago, but never in a million years did I think I mean the Emanuel Mcronone story is wacky because it's like if you're already going to go through this effort to choose a manuran candidate, is it just not like crazy enough just doing that? Like do you really have to add on the transitioning of a potential family member who molested him when he was a kid and just see if you can get away with it? Is it just like haha let's see if the public if we just have a man as the first lady that's like a really big So who is Breijit Mcronone? Breijgit Mcronone was an individual who was born Jean Michichelle Trrognau. Um and the relation to Emanuel is that I can't say for certain you know that's why we did not conclude how they are related. My sense is it's the missing uncle whose name is Jean Michelle who was not a bad guess. Who was Yeah. Who was God who was uh the godfather when Emanuel Mcronone got um commun first communion at school. who's just missing like there's just like a missing that's my best bet is that it's an uncle but um I don't know I don't know I I know that without question that Breijg Mcronone was not born a woman uh we've given them ever every ample opportunity to clarify that fact and what they've done behind the scenes since that series has only further stressed that this is we have definitively stumbled upon the truth and they are going through very desperate measures right now to try to get our series removed off of YouTube Really? Yeah. I mean, like as far as you could possibly go in terms of trying to get this series removed and to get me shut up because they know that the legal route isn't working. They're placing high phone calls. They're doing whatever they can. And that should signal to the public that this is real. Because again, if somebody made a series and was like, "No, Kenneth Owens was actually born Michael." I'd be like, "Dude, public, you're an idiot." Like that's actually kind of funny. There's something interesting about the idea that if you can sell people on this, then what else could you sell people on? You know, if if if this is the the case where this this woman who was John Michelle Trnau, they've they've put the entire French press to sleep. And they've done this with the help of a a kind of PR guru, right, in France. a gangster. Let's be clear. A gangster. Mimi Maron is a gangster. She's again now being tried for extortion, all this stuff, but that's the way the government's run. I don't think people can process that. But it's like the CIA was a gang. They are a gang. You know, they will kill people um who don't do what they want. And so in order to massage this in the public, they used a woman. 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He's selected at a very young age to basically be some type of manurian candidate and then at some point Jean Michelle Trrognau becomes Breijit who then becomes a teacher. Yeah. And then to further groom he was groomed by there's no question. Right. And then Mcronone is 14, Breijit's 40, and then they begin a At what point do they begin a courtship check? I'm like confused. Well, the official story is that they tell you is she saw him on stage performing in the play and as a 40-year-old woman. I mean, even that was a flag for me. Like older women like people find like younger women attractive, you know what I mean? Like a hot 18-year-old. older women. Like, have you ever seen a 14-y old boy? I mean, they're like literally like a gangly. Like, it's not like a man in their prime is gonna be like a 22 year old. You know what I mean? Like, you ever seen a 14-y old boy? I'm like, we don't find Why would a 40-year-old woman, every woman I know, 14year-old boy, people that are usually their age or a little bit older. You want the Troy Brad Pitt for men. So, when you see a woman and she's a cougar, she's a cougar for a Troy, right? Brad Pitt and Troy. No, it's She's not looking for a 14-year-old. We're talking about a crime. It's a crime. Like I'm like, "Everyone just go find a 14-y old boy. It's a crime. No, it's a crime. There's There's not a hot 14-year-old boy. They're in their very much in their weird ph. She's a teacher at this school. Yeah. He's a student and he's in a play and she just was." So, by the way, what happened to Remember the Me Too? Remember all the concerns about all the things like this? This would seem to be prime. I would hope it would fall in the parameters of Yeah. a little bit of me too. Fall in the parameters of an inappropriate power dynamic. Just a little bit. And so, yeah, she then claims that, you know, it was just so irresistible and then at some point they pursue a relationship and that part gets a little bit fuzzy. Um, I would imagine Yeah, that part gets a little bit fuzzy, you know, alleging she was married and I mean, you have to There's so much there that's just insanity. No, it's it's it's being talked about by so many different people that cuz you've waited into a lot of things recently where you have a perspective that a lot of people don't have, but as soon as they start listening to you, they start going, "Wait a minute." Whether they agree with all your conclusions or not, the general consensus is that you're on to something. Yeah. So, and for example, people, oh, anti-semitism or this, that, and the other thing, but there is a prominent Jewish person that you are helping that no one else is helping. Yeah, they ignore that part. She's Adolf Hitler. There is a very prominent Jewish person who you are actually helping that no one is helping. And that person is Harvey Weinstein. you have looked over this and have have come to I don't want to say a conclusion but you're certainly leaning in the direction that that we don't know the whole story. He was wrongfully convicted is my conclusion and I and I the thing about me is when you listen to my podcast I'll tell you my thoughts like I like the whole idea of saying that like you're not biased or like is ridiculous. So, I will say to someone, I've looked over this case. You know, after looking over this case, I've concluded that Harvey Weinstein was wrongfully convicted and was basically just hung on the me too thing, and I'm going to show you how I got there, but I'm going to give you access to everything I'm looking at. Like, I'm not here to tell you I'm the expert and I'm above you. You can investigate this with me. And Harvey Weinstein, when he when this came across my plate, honestly, somebody contacted me and I just thought I thought he was guilty. I mean, that even shows that me I think I'm I'm impervious to the media and I I always like know the media is lying, but I clearly fell for the Harvey Weinstein thing cuz it was there was like 130 women. I mean, I was like something's just basic odds here. Someone's got to be telling the truth. And then I realized I didn't even know why he was in prison. I didn't even real recognize how many women actually put him in prison. And it came down to just three in all of those cases. Three women. And when you look at the Kate, it is the most absurd, ridiculous. You have to genuinely believe that a woman can be while having a four-year affair, raped one time, continued the affair for multiple years. Every that one time she was raped right after, emailed him for tickets to go to Paris uh to be flown with her friends to Paris. That part she doesn't remember or or when she gets questioned on the stand, she breaks down crying, right? She breaks down crying like why would you do this? And also after she got raped like brought her mom to meet him. It just gets like it's a little too much. I know what a sugar baby is. Okay. The world knows what sugar babies are. I fully accept that he abused his power. Like of course people know you're Harvey freaking Weinstein. You've done the most amazing movies ever and these women are not sleeping with you because you're Brad Pitt and Troy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so they feel like they and then imagine doing that like you sleep with him and then afterward your career doesn't take off. And so you're I feel these women are trying to rinse themselves of their sins of like oh no I didn't sleep with like Harvey Weinstein when I was young. I raped I was raped. When you read these women's emails following their you know quote unquote rapes or sexual assaults you just go something. Listen I'm not an expert. I know we're in like the experts, the age of the experts, right? You know, I'm not an expert on what does what does and does not qualify rape, but I would like to think that you wouldn't like say, "Oh, he's like a father to me. Oh, I love him. He's a mentor. He's this. My mom meets like I just when you read these emails and read how many there are, you just go, okay, this was something else." Right. Right. And like also, you would then be alone with him again over and over in a hotel room. Like, would you not try to avoid the circumstance ever again? It feels like a incredible stretch to say that um somebody who we know abused his power and you know was not acting in a moral or upstanding way or you know was probably aggressive and did things that nobody would support. um should just be um convicted on the basis of a general vibe instead of a specific set of provable allegations, right? Which I think is where you landed on this. Yeah. And and and I landed on that and had said that publicly on Twitter and then that was before the appellet court reversed the decision. So I said it and then a few months ago Harvey Weinstein's decision decision got overturned in New York and the appellet judges said the exact same thing. They were like this was a kangaroo court. I mean I don't understand. They were allowing anyone to come into the court and say whatever. You would get like a former assistant that was like I was there one time and you know him and his brother got into a fight like character assassination in the court. was a juror on a murder trial and they at one time they were like you you cannot bring up other things this defendant did. Exactly. We are trying this defendant on these set of allegations and nothing else. Right. They let it with Harvey Weinstein. They let anyone you could say you know he took my pencil in eighth grade. It was just a full character assassination that had nothing to do. Have you spoken to him? Yeah. I speak to Harvey. Yeah. and and and how does he feel that one human being on earth is trying to, you know, shed light on this case? You know, he called me. Am I wrong? You're it, right? Yeah. And he called me and he thanked me. I mean, he's hasn't had this much hope in years. And, you know, he'd been listening to his lawyers for a long time. Don't talk to anyone. Don't say anything. And that was part of the struggle of bringing this this story forward because they're like, "Well, you don't want to blow your chances." And I said to him, "Listen, I don't think your lawyers understand. You're in prison because you lost the public war." You know what I mean? Me, too. Was just they were just hanging people publicly. And if you don't actually get out what happened and he he was just elated like for the first time he had hope. And the thing that's so sad that people don't realize and I don't know how these women sleep at night is he has kids. You know, he has kids that are growing up and the they are being told that their father is a rapist. Not your father is a bad man, an immoral man, your father abused his, you know, abused his power. All those things might be true, but a rapist, which is something totally different. And I just don't understand how people can sleep at night because and he denies that. He says, "I am not a rapist." No, he's denied it from the very beginning. And he's admitted, "I've had affairs. I've" And they Why'd you pay him off? He's like, "Cuz I was cheating on my wife nonstop at the peninsula." And so when these women came and were like, "Well, you better pay me." I paid some of them off, obviously, right? But the when you read the emails, it's just it is ridiculous. It defies common sense to believe that anyone would communicate like that for years and years after um they were allegedly assaulted or they were allegedly raped. And they all were looking for careers. They're all in the industry. They're all asking him for tickets. And he was the guy he got them the tickets, by the way. watched the Kevin Spacy doc and it were these guys who were like, "Well, he was inappropriate, but then I went to his apartment." It's like, "What are you doing? What are you doing? You're trying to get something and fine, but then you can't turn around and go, "This guy ruined my life." Because it does feel like there is a fair amount of like, you know, revisionist history or Monday morning quarterback. And again, not, you know, Harvey Weinstein, we're not saying it's like, you know, you know, the moral paragon of whatever this is. He's not Justin Baldon. Like it's not like a case where you're like, "This guy was just such an amazing person." No, of course. But now you got into that one, too. Yeah, that one really got me angry. I kind of was I'm not even I was kind of barely paying attention to that one. Yeah. Because I'm kind of like I didn't I I I paid attention a little bit to Deer. Mhm. And then I felt this was kind of a Depp Heard sequel. Oh, it was so much worse. So, he did nothing. He just did nothing. And they were just like, what was the motivation? I just think for Blake Lively to do this, I think for a very long time, we just as a society didn't realize Ryan Reynolds was a psychopath. Interesting. And because he was kind of playing himself as Deadpool and people thought it was like kind of funny and then something triggered him about Justin Baldoni and he went on an absolute tear to destroy every layer of this man's life and his wife wanted to control the movie. She admitted as much on stage as that's what she does. She pretends she just wants to act. But she's really there because she wants to like take over movies. And just the length that they went through to destroy this. I think it's like you see a puppy, you know you can. And Ryan was just like, I can do it. You got to listen to it because when Candace goes through it, another Jewish guy I'm defending. Yeah. It's just like and nobody pays. They're like, "No, she's still hidden. I've actually petitioned for you to get an award from several Jewish organizations. We haven't heard backing, but I I when you go through this, what's interesting is that I'm the weirdly Hollywood adjacent. I've done like uh one movie. It was like the worst movie ever. Joker 2. Shout out to everyone who ruined that. Um and I said, everyone goes, "Are you thinking mad at you for saying how bad it was?" I go, "What am I going to do? I make a living with my [ __ ] mouth." Like, I'm like, "I'm going to lie and go, no, it's great. It's great that the Joker's doing show tunes. It's not what everyone wants. Isn't that what everyone wants is show tunes with, you know? So, I was in like one movie and again I I I don't like I'm I I I'm I'm plugged in. But you from the total outside, this is what's very interesting. As somebody who's really in the outside, you see things better in in a lot of these situations than people that are in it because you have this detachment where you can go, wait a minute, what's going on? where you're like cuz I just heard I'm like oh I guess there's some weird I didn't think he was like super guilty but I'm like some weirdness on set whatever kind of ignored it move on but you're like no no no this was a complete attempt to destroy this man's life yeah it was bad put him in the hospital and he he is the most frustrating person because he never once fought back for himself like he genuinely why do you think that is because he's being told by people just don't say anything so here's the thing a lot people, most people I would think in Hollywood are a lot like Ryan and Blake where they pretend to be good people by giving money and virtue signaling and like I give to this cause, I care about this or like I'm a male feminist and they're not. He actually is all of those things. Like he actually is he he just takes it from people and I need to be better and he's constantly just like hitting himself over the head like I need to be better. I went through his Instagram page and I like suffered from PTSD with how nice he was. I didn't like it. It was like it was like way too nice. You know, I was just like, "Just one time stand up for yourself." And a woman's like, "Men shouldn't speak." He's like, "You're right. We just shouldn't." I'm like, "No, no, you can speak." And so, I just knew right away. I'm I think I'm a person that I lived through enough when I was young that I kind of had to sharpen my ability to read people very quickly, you know, like a basic survival skill. So that's is probably more of just the things I saw when I was little, right? And so I had to wise up real quick and I got to read people and I know how to read. I think that's my one like superhuman skill is I'm just like don't trust that one. Don't and Blake Lively I've just like your best friend to Taylor Swift. Yeah. Don't trust that one. Like she's been moving and has gotten away with it for years like victimizing people while pretending she's a victim. I know things. Everybody knows things about Taylor Swift. I will say no things that Taylor Swift and her mother have left messages on other pop stars phones threatening them. No, no, there is like everybody knows this. They'll eventually come out. Come at her. Come at her. Come at him, bro. Yeah. Or her or her. Come at me, bro. I don't even care. Come at Breit or John Michelle Trog now. Or me or Tim. Yeah. But no, but listen, the reality is I She's vicious. She is vicious. And so for Blake and her to be best friends right away, and I've known Blake, Blake is really just like there's just very surface. She's never had to work for anything in her life. She's not talented. Everything gets handed to her. And she's quite mean to people. Everyone knows she's a long gossip girl. Like that's actually and that's what I'm saying. And he's actually Deadpool. So, you know, I just knew right away that the power dynamics and the fact that she was like trying to do me Too, but Me Too was years ago. She did like a little too late. She was a little too late to the Me Too party. She came, she arrived fashionably late to the Me Too party, but the party was over. You know what I mean? And I just went, I think I need to hear a little more here. This is this isn't like it's not passing the vibe check. It's And then when Brian Freriedman, who is like my favorite person right now, just like said, "F that." Like, read the every single text message online. It was incredible. You got to do it. You actually have to sit down and do it because it's very scary. It's like shockingly like terrifying that Ryan Brown is just like allowed to be a person in life. 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Even though it has gaping holes in it where you go in and go, "Wait a minute. This is wrong." But I've always been amazed at what could get sold. Yeah. And how it's been sold. There is an ID TV element of it. Yeah. Where you're like, a crime happened, right? And this person like almost got away with it. Yes. And it was elaborate. and the planning that went into this like Ryan Reynolds the New York Times sitting down planning this how to get someone's cell phone by pretending you have a different lawsuit like there's so many elements I'm like this is a true crime like a true crime story and at the same time this person was just like allowed to exist in the public and pretend to be a good person because like he gave to Amfar and BLM like that there is a there's a psychological element and I do think that one of my interests is like my natural interests is psychology it's why I'm interested in all these psychological programs the government used to run like chaos and how easy it is to socially engineer a mind. It's so easy. Like our our minds are so malleable. And that's why even when I have these moments where I check myself, like the Harvey Weinstein case, because I thought he was so guilty. It kind of scared me about myself cuz I was like, "Oh my god, Candace, you have been so good about making sure that your mind is not being manipulated." And even you fell for fell for one. And you were I was vocally anti-me too, but I was like, "Oh, yeah, Harvey is definitely guilty. That one's I have to look into that." I think a lot of a lot of people that, you know, think they know a lot know very little. And it's very surprising to me. I've met people that have gone to the best schools and they have risen to positions of prominence in society. They're not unintelligent. They're incredibly capable. They're savvy in their own business. They're tremendously uh competent. They've made vast sums of money. They are incredibly uh you know sharp. But if you take them out of that world and you just ask them to process some of the things that we've talked about today, they're at a complete loss. Oh yeah. I think the longer you stay in school, the dumber you become. Yeah, I do think that there is a common sense street element that gets completely lost when you're just trying to like add a bunch of degrees to your life and certifications. And that's why when we get into this like expert problem, right, where they just were like, I don't know how I got it wrong on CO, right? And then there was this clip of uh Andrew Tate speaking about CO where he's like, you know, if you're on the block and somebody comes up to they're like, "Eat the cheeseburger." You know, I just really want you to eat the cheeseburger. just instinctively know like I'm good, right? You're trying real hard to get me in a way that's like it's free. Just take it. It's free. And what he's speaking to is street smarts and that gets lost when you're just kind of off the streets and in the academia and that you see that a lot and they just keep the experts just kind of keep getting it wrong because they're missing that common sense element. And you realize that if you want to trick an expert, just put it in an expert book. like they they wake up every day and they're like, "Well, the New York Times couldn't possibly lie to me." And I've read the article in the New York Times. The New York Times says that Justin Baldon is basically akin to a rapist. So, I'm just obviously it's true. Giving a big bag of money just that also. A nice expert book and a big bag of money works. Um, and listen, there there are obviously people in society that know more about things than other people. There there are people that are uh trained in a in a degree in a field, but then there's also a lot of people that are bought are being I'm in politics. Yeah, I know. Are you kidding me? I've seen it over and over. It's sad to watch, too, because they don't start like that. No. You know, I've been with people and come up in politics with them and and they're great and they're motivated by all the right things and then I think what happens is you you don't realize you become a part of a certain class and you feel like you can't go against it. Like there's like the cult of politics that happens, right? And they won't critique certain things that they know to be wrong, right? Which is crazy to me because what do you say to people that go Candace Owens rapidly anti-semitic sees Jewish conspiracy theories everywhere? There is that uh you know narrative. Yeah. I think we could like the whole idea that like anti-semitism is on the rise. Like my basic PR advice would just be maybe stop uh blowing up children BB Netanyahu and see if it decreases. I'm not an expert. Not helping. I'm not an expert. Certainly not helping. But I do think that where you think you see anti-semitism, it may just be a humane response to children being blown up for like two years straight. There should be a there should be a way to acknowledge that there's a a human toll that about war that is you know I think is becoming I was supposed to say again I'm not an expert. No of course but I mean listen at the end of the day I think the vast majority of people look at that situation and say this is terrible. It's unsustainable. We're supporting it. We're funding it. it needs to end, right? And you know, some people have caught more flak, more flak than others for saying it. There's clearly anti-semmites. There's clearly people that believe whatever the Holocaust denial, whatever. There's clearly people on that side of the spectrum, but there are also people that are pointing out, you know, a very real problem with, like you said, the massive That was my side. That was my crime. I mean, you there's no way that you're trying to sell right now that I'm trying to free Harvey Weinstein, who gave more money to the ADL, who has me on a list, by the way, you know, while he was alive. Every Jewish cause he's given money to. And Steve Sorrowitz and Justin Balden, these are all Ashkenazi Jews. They leave all that off the table because they they're they're trying to conflate critique of Israel with just being Jewish, which is absurd, right? And I'm sorry, it's just stupid. I'm I'm over it. I don't care anymore. I don't even defend myself against it because it's just so overdone. We were like that place, you know, in when BLM just went too far and everything was racist. Well, that's the other thing. I think in the beginning a lot of people were were like, "Yes, let's look at the way police behave, right? And let's look at the way they behave in in minority communities. Let's look at the way they behave across the board. Um, we're a free country. We have a second amendment. We have people that have guns. uh you know are are are free have autonomy and if you know police are going to have to also understand how to treat people that are you know Americans right so I think a lot of people were like let's take a look at all of that and then it went so overboard it went to defund it went to abolish the it was suddenly like if you're white and you wear your hair and braids apologize and people are like you know what I'm done and we're now at like hair hair and braids apologize on the Simpson thing and I'm just everyone's just kind of done with it and no one cares everyone's Yeah. And I I certainly want to be clear. I literally don't care if you are going to call me any semi because I've noticed a lot of kids are getting blown up. That's ridiculous. But there's also an entitlement that I don't that I've been trying to comprehend lately because there are people who think that if you get called a name because you're Jewish, it's somehow like like is this your first day on the internet? As soon as you are on the internet, when they figure out what you are, you're going to get called the thing. Like every day I wake up, I log on Twitter and I'm called the N word. That's just like I've just come to like that just has to happen cuz that's how the internet works. And there are people that are so fragile that like and I'm not and I when I say some people I mean quite literally people have texted me a screenshot like a troll account being like look what this person said about juice you're a 45year-old man who runs a satire business right what are you like what is this have you never this is your first day on the internet you know how many times I've been called like if you can't deal with that you got to log off you know what I mean the internet is the internet the internet's internet it's a place for trolling they want to find out what is your attribute so I can call you the thing right and this they this starts when kids are playing game boys and there's a little chat I mean they're playing what's that game where there's the well it's a ton of them Fortnite does any of that right I yeah I don't know I don't game but they you read the chats they're insane that's the internet right and so they have to kind of know the difference between well I've never seen so many people saying names cuz I Jordan Peterson has has taken this stance too and I'm like is this everybody's first he's against name calling now oh my gosh are you kidding He's like he I think truly trolls have broken a lot of people and they and maybe maybe they're too old to be on the internet. I don't know what it is. Just log off for a little bit. Smell some fresh air. It's not real life. The internet is not real life. I mean, could you imagine me? I bet some of those children in Gaza would love to be called a name, right? If that's all they had to deal with. And they're acting like every day they're dealing with like, I've survived slavery. I'm Harriet Tub and I've escaped to the north because I I you know I responded to a troll. I survived a internet holocaust. Dude, just log off if you are that rattled. Take a beat. Block or log off? Take a beat. You know, and so I had a war with the Red Mango frozen yogurt. It got very intense and we I believe I was Was this a troll? Red mango? No, no, no. This is a real frozen yogurt company. Oh, you're talking about the actual Red Mango. Yeah, we just started attacking. I don't I don't know how it happened, but we both were not at our best. This is Have you thought about Have you thought about writing a book about this? 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And I'm telling you right now, this is what you want because it fortifies the gut health and it makes you feel revived and revitalized, renewed and recharged. Thank you. Are we going to war with Iran? Let's hope not. I think we are. I think we are too. Never not seen BB Netanyahu get what gets get what he wants. Well, it's interesting like everybody's like everyone's like I don't know. There's this weird like I've you know I explained this the other day and I was like Iran's this like boogeyman that I've heard about since I'm nine and me and my friend are always like when you take hostages like Iran did in the 80s or whatever you're just on the list forever and everyone talks about going to Iran. Now we've done this we've seen this movie. We know what happens when we put Western troops in a Muslim country. We decapitate the leadership. We install a new government. It's a me. We know what happens. This isn't like a mysterious thing of like what's going to happen? How will this work? We know what's going to happen and we still seem to be marching towards it. And I almost wonder if some of this defense department stuff that's happening and maybe Pete Pete Aad is having a cocktail every now and then. I don't know. Um that's a possibility. But there's also a possibility that there's a lot of people that there's some turmoil because people want to move in the direction of war with Iran. I'm just wondering like I'm I don't have a crystal ball. How have I been saying to my audiences for three years that we're going to war with Iran? Like I don't have a crystal ball. How did I know all of these things that were going to happen when I was telling them about what was going to happen with Zalinski? Guys, the media it's all so farcical. Like it is pretending. All you have to do is pay attention to what BB Netanyahu said. He's been like literally he said Libya, he said Syria, he said Iraq, he said Iran. The footage is on the internet. And when people ask him about America, he's on camera saying America is something that can be easily manipulated, right? We, you know, we're going to get what we want. All of it's there. Why are we in the Middle East? In in case you didn't know this, you may not be the best geography. geography, but is not located in the Middle East. So, it's kind of weird that we just keep having nonstop beef in the Middle East, right? A lot of it's oil, right? But that's the whole point. So, all of us pretending like there's weapons of mass destruction, it's about regionally, Israel wants to expand its interest and its power in the region. Truthfully, we have been in bed with Israel since its creation in 1948 and really proliferated that after JFK mysteriously got shot and we're not allowed to know anything more about that. Just accept the narrative, whatever. Um, we increased our relationship like LBJ did that all of that. And when you when you speak about this real history and show like Israel said LBJ was the greatest friend. Okay. Well, that's weird because JFK was arguing with Israel leading up to his death. him and uh Prime Minister Ben Gerian were arguing every day on the phone, still not declassified. He didn't want them to go nuclear. He was stop trying to stop them from getting weapons and then all of a sudden the guy under him in command is a a complete 180 once he gets shot. It's problematic that we can't have these discussions, but it's it's actually the most crucial thing. And this is why Dave Smith gets completely pillaried because he's willing to talk about this unhealthy relationship and attachment that we have with Israel. I don't view the CIA and the MSAD as different organizations and neither should you by the way like you know they are fundamentally the same deep state that I think have been working for a very long time a lot of the interests overlap often right and I think when have they not overlapped yeah well I don't I think there was a there's some there the Saudis complicate the picture slightly right they complicate it slightly but I I would say that there's a almost always overlapping interest right um the Saudis complicate it a bit but it does seem like there is kind of a kind of a movement now in America to basically try to understand more about the dynamics that that enable certain decisions right I think you know and there should be because it's your the thing is is Israel is as they always say we're just a tiny country the size of New Jersey and it's like okay that's not like the thing that you should be counting in your favor why are you causing so much crap you know what I mean like it's like I think there's so they need bodies. They need more bodies. And that's what I got try to wake people up to. It's like the reason why you have to critique this country is because when they There's also people in Israel that critique it as well that are saying more than any I read hates every day. They don't we don't want they don't want this war. It's not Israelis. We're talking about governments intelligence agencies. I think there's a lot to be said for the people, a lot of them in Israel who are going, we think BB Netanyahu is corrupt. He's facing corruption trials right now. We don't we don't want to expand the borders of this country, you know, and we're and and the people of Israel are suffering and Jewish people around the world are potentially suffering because of these actions because of the unnecessary conflation. Like a Jewish community have nothing to do with this. You have there's no reason why you have to defend anything he's doing. This is a is a random country in the Middle East. And I know there's been a lot of people and I call this it's the same conditioning that black people face in the classroom. Like if you want to know why black people wanted to jump and support BLM really without even thinking is because they have been raised to understand that there's this existential crisis like being black you're automatically a victim and that happens because of public schooling. We learn so much about slavery they like they imprint that in our mind as we're growing up. So then when somebody says oh my gosh like George Floyd you you better get out there. Black people instinctually do that. And so I understand very much why Jewish Americans after October 7th felt the way that they felt because in that same way the imprint for them is the Holocaust, right? We learned so much about that in school. There's so many movies about it. Um same for slavery. So many movies about it in Hollywood. And it's understandable that you know seeing anybody get dragged from a rave into a tunnel is a crazy horrible thing that everybody would you know it condemns and says 100% and then you always get the initial reaction like I and so I I completely forgive and excuse that and I there's no one that I would say and like after 911 this country went around and did a lot of things that I don't think made us safer and in fact put us in a in a bad position financially. We gave up our freedoms to be We tortured a lot of people that were innocent. We killed a lot of people that were innocent. We have to take our belts off at TSA now. We have to take our belts off at TSA. All of that stuff and we didn't do anything. We didn't do anything. And now we get a lot of soldiers, you know, gave their lives in uh so I think it's the you you I there's an understandable rage and reaction that people have, but from our own history, you can see that it did go too far. Yeah. And that's what we're doing now is like we now have the first time as like generation 911 as I refer myself to to slow things down after a big event happens and to before we get ourselves in those circumstances again we can slow down and go what are we actually doing here who actually benefits nothing made sense after 911 we were told that Saudis were on the plane and we didn't go to war with Saudi Arabia we then went to war with Iraq was orange and then red yeah weapons of mass destruction they never found weapons of mass destruction then we went into Afghanistan nothing made sense and so what this actually was was we were going to go to war no matter what they needed to justify. They need the public to get on their side about it. And that's how I feel about what's happening right now is that war with Iran has already been decided upon and they're just Where is Trump in this? Where is the Trump administration? I mean, my understanding is that Trump would like a diplomatic resolution, but the neocons want. And unfortunately, there's a lot of neocons in Trump's cabinet. And I think that's when you're speaking about that push pull and what's going on with Pete Hegsth. And um what's happening is that there are people who are genuinely I mean from what we heard Tulsi Gabbard and Pete Pete Hegsath and there was one other per one other person who stopped you know us from attacking Iran or whatever it was they are the reason that we're not at war with Iran today. But everyone else wants to go to war because it's already been decided upon. And so you have to kind of wake up the American people. When I say American I'm talking Jewish American just American guys. Like stop seeing yourself as black, white, Jewish. Like we need to recognize what's happening here because very few people benefit from this perpetual state of war. Whether we're talking about Ukraine, is Israel, very few people at the tippity top are actually benefiting from the war machine. You know, no, it's a it's not you and me. It it's something that I woke up to. We're maybe similar ages. I'm 40. I don't know. I don't know if you talk about your age. You don't have to. Oh, I do. I talk about my age. I'm 35. Okay. So, you're But my birthday's on Tuesday, so I want you to make make sure you get me something. Happy birthday. I absolutely will. I absolutely will get her a uh subscription to the free press. No, Barry Weiss. No. Um, did she tweet my special? I tell Barry, I go, "If you want me to support whatever you're doing over there, I need more than a free tote bag." I like Barry, but I said, "I want to read her article." She gave me a free subscription to the free press. Her article wasn't included. I had to upgrade. So, I'm just saying, not anti-semitic, just what it is. Um, but here's what I'll say. We learned this. We watched our friends go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq and die. And we watched a lot of people. We watched the 10 counties around Washington DC become the wealthiest counties in America. They don't have significant natural beauty. They don't have tons of resources. Um it wasn't the location of Wall Street or Hollywood or the country music capital. It wasn't any of that. It was just, you know, kind of humrum plain jane suburbs that surrounded this nucleus of power. You know, Mlean, Virginia, Langley, Virginia. Why? Why? I wonder why, right? So, they got really rich and veterans came back and had no healthcare. Veterans came back and their suicide rates were off the charts. Veterans came back and couldn't get housing. Um, they were ignored. They were put on ice. And then we watched tons of people that worked in, you know, military adjacent fields, the defense industry, things like that become incredibly wealthy. And that to me, I feel like was a lesson that a lot of people in my generation learned. And we and and I'm saying our generation did learn that. And that's why we're vocal. A lot of people are unlearning it. and and for the first time and I'm very optimistic about it because obviously I wouldn't have a platform if what I was saying if if the press was to be believed. I wouldn't have a platform. I mean they've called me every name possible in the book, gone after my family, gone after my job, gone after my career. But at the end of the day, my sons are not going to grow up and fight in your shitty little war. And that's where I'm at. I'm just I'm on some mom stuff right now. And you you're not going to mess with the mama bear, okay? I'm going to speak the truth unapologetically. I don't really care about your feelings. I don't really care about like a mean tweet from like Megan McCain and I understand why she loves war. She's one of the great her family's one of the benefactors of war. I get it. I get the neocon class. You guys are rich because people in the south who are poor are will sons are dying in your wars. I get it. I really do. Years ago and she still holds it against you. She I am not kidding. Her and Ben Dominic I sent one tweet and it's been seven years or four years and she haven't let it go. I mean, and I it was a really like, you know, honest tweet that I put out there. I was offending Joe Rogan when she was saying like, you know, during COVID when like suddenly it was like the revenge of people who never took care of their health and they like got the vaccine and then were like, "You don't care about health." And she like went after Joe Rogan and she's like, "Joe Rogan's an idiot who doesn't care about health." And I was like, "No one should be listening to Megan McCain." And she never let it go. No. Yeah. People get in their feelings and stay there. You know, I want to be forgiven. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so many people that just don't like me. 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I want to have my mind changed. I don't want to be in a box and hearing myself speak. This is why I love even what I do now because I tell people to be a part of the investigation and they send me things. And I love that my platform now has so many people that were on the left. Before when I was at the Daily Wire, it was really kind of exclusively conservative. And now it seems since I'm I'm I guess I'm getting more of just me. Yeah. There's also multitudes. Everyone contains multitudes. There's people that are, you know, I think people called me liberal friends that I have. I, you know, live in New York. I lived in LA. A lot of my friends are uh liberal. Most of them are wealthy. I spend most of the time with people who I'm whom I use for things and a lot of them happen to be liberal, you know, and I tolerate their personalities because of the homes they have and the boats. Yeah, you gota you know what I mean? And you got to get out to Mont Talk in in the summer. Yeah, you can't. I mean, I'm going to tolerate this for nothing. Let's get on a boat. Tell me about it on a boat. Tell me about the non-binary kid on a boat now. It's so much more understandable on a yacht. Look at the wind. You can't even hear. Yeah. The But but I I'll tell you this and I love my liberal friends. I love my conservative friend. I'm like in this weird mias in the middle. I don't know what I I I believe in you know I I believe in pedaval cult and lizard people. I think I'm a centrist. That's centrist now. So that was a big tweet I had many years ago. But I think that um you have a lot of liberals calling me going Candace Owens. I'm [ __ ] listening to Candace Owens. They go, you know, she made all these points about this thing and they're going because they think a lot of people are sleepwalking and it's not always their fault. They got kids and the this and the that and they got a job and they're like they're just, you know, they're getting battered. Like when you're landing in a plane and it's turbulent, you're just getting battered and you're getting a hit. I think that's what a lot of people like are in life with so many responsibilities and things and they're getting battered by information. This guy's bad. This one's good. This is a rapist. This is the president of France. He got engaged to this woman who she was 40 and he was 14. But it was sweet. Yeah, that one was sweet. Beautiful. This guy was a Hollywood movie producer. He's the devil. And I think people just go, "Okay, sure. What? Left, right?" You know, and what I think you've done is kind of reset the table a little bit. Yeah. And I've I've also just put them in the pilot seat. That's the thing. When you're on autopilot like that, who who's actually driving this car? And I think it's been good that the trust in the media has been fractured. That had to happen first. And so much credit, by the way, is very much due to Johnny Depp for that. Yeah. That was a moment, I think, because people really got to see up close how easily the press could just turn someone into a vill villain or a victim. Yeah. Or at least I think that really mattered for a lot of the women that were on the left because they were really vocal about me, too. And so, we're kind of at this interesting moment where they don't necessarily believe the media anymore. And also the biggest contributor thereafter was co right like some people rerouted their entire lives became like COVID Nazis ended friendships only to find out that they were being lied to and they thought they were they really trusted the media they trusted the experts and so the thing about being a liar is that once you are exposed as a liar you can't then just be like just kidding like right now now I'm now I'm back to being a truth teller and that was so I know your grandma died alone but I was just that was that's the old me this is the new It was it was the 9/11 response and all of that. We our generation didn't didn't ever trust the government the same way again after that after weapons of mass destruction Dick Cheney and this that and the other thing and then I think for a lot of people growing up it was co and you know I think I think it's it's about trying to you know retain a sense of because there is a lot of information and I think a lot it melts people's minds so I think it's about like you know kind of trying to stay sane while processing a lot of this. Yeah. And you go through that you go through a period of cognitive dissonance once you accept everything as it is and then suddenly you're like whoa what is going on. You you do have to suffer that like you do have to recognize that it is plausible that everything that you thought was wasn't. I went through that phase. Fortunately it was before I had a platform when I kind of was like wow I really believed the Wall Street Journal. I mean I mean I really believed the New York Times. I really believed the Washington Post and suddenly I realized that these people are all working for somebody and you know once you get through that and you have enough humility to admit that you're wrong and a lot of people don't possess this but like you were all capable of being wrong and it's good to just get through that process very quickly. and then judge things on its merits and then you actually you feel more confident because you start investigating things yourself like you're going okay I hear what you're saying but I also want to hear the other side of what the other people are saying and then I want to do my own research and figure out like you know what's actually right and what's actually wrong and I think that's why we are starting to see a lot of people come to the center and I love it I I think it is really great that people are coming more to the center and I think people are looking nuance is coming back complexity yeah like could did you really believe that I was like antilack I used to read my Wikipedia page and it was amazing. I was horrified. Yeah. I was like, "Oh my god, I would never sit with this." We had you on in 2020. We had you on in 2020. I had you on my podcast in 2020. people were angry at you and I people got really angry with me and I said we wanted to platform uh a marginalized woman of color and then we it was Candace I thought fun bit and fun bit and Candace came on and was great and then people got really tight and people were like I cannot believe that I know I was like I don't know man I was called antilack it was we were in a weird time I was like I was like I just don't I don't see the value in like not engaging with people. And I think that that I felt like we put that aside after this period of of insanity, this moral panic that we were in. And I think a lot of people, and that doesn't mean you're going to agree with everybody on everything. You won't. People are individuals. But I do think that you are going to be more open to certain things than you were. And I think pe it's not going to be as easy. People aren't lining up on the left or the right as neatly as they did, you know, and the people that are in power don't like that. Very easy. I mean, the amount of hit pieces that have been written about me this year, it's insane. Like, I've just been like literally pregnant in my basement. I don't like what is happening. But they're worrying about that because they need to keep us warning with one another. And when they start to see that people are opening themselves to at least listening, this is why they're so angry about Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn. You put Theo Vaughn on your I've done all these things to promote my special and CNN and Fox and all these, you know, all these places have asked me are do you guys consider yourselves a new establishment? And I'm like, "All right." So, 19 intelligence agencies, the full force of the federal government, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, the New York Times, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, all the Ivy League schools, the Council on Foreign Relations, all of these uh different organizations, public, private, all these groups, verse four podcasters, no, I don't think was the new establishment. I think that's a very silly way to put it. I think you ran an unpopular candidate on a platform that America didn't want child sex changes in an open border. and you you went hard on those issues and you wouldn't move an inch Mhm. on open border and child sex changes and I think Americans rendered a verdict on that. I don't think it was and you also tried to run a dead guy and then replaced him with an unpopular vice president who like no one like we didn't even know. No. And she ran on a platform of joy. So you could blame it on the Joe Rogan or Andrew Schultz. You can blame it on anyone you want. I had the VP. Nobody blames it on me. I advance. No one cared. Like I read all the articles. I'm like yeah they're gonna and they're all like it's it's never me. I'm like, "But I advance, but no one cared." But um it's never me. I never get the flag. They're always like, "It's always everyone else." But come for you now. Well, this is Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. That's a good point. But this is a morning show. I do think if it was a sane country, we would have a morning show. I agree. I don't know who we need to pitch this to. Like this works for America. Yeah. We need Candace and Tim. That's right. I I'll do that. I I'll I'll do that. Absolutely. I'm telling you, the only person we need to pitch it to and his name is Harvey Weinstein. Harvey Weinstein. Once I get him out of prison, I mean, that guy, you give him credit every prison. This show's a reality. Yeah, it's a reality. Candace Owens, everyone. Where can they find you? Everywhere, honestly. Yeah. I'm going on maternity leave. I'm I'm about to drop a baby in a week, but um after that, my YouTube, you find me on Spotify, Apple, YouTube. I'm so happy we did this before that because I know you're going on a maternity thing. Yeah, I'm going on a maternity thing, you know, and I I I can't keep away though. I'll be watching. I'll be lurking. I'll I'll know what everybody's doing and what they're up to. But I know she'll be I'm definitely going to come back if anything happens in the Blake and Ryan. There's a Malibu mom talking about banning food dyes. Candace is always near. I'm there. I am there. Candace Owens, everyone. Thank you again. You are so welcome. will like you.