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Government Spyware Concerns

Sep 9, 2025

Overview

The episode discusses the US government's acquisition of advanced "zero-click" spyware from Paragon Solutions, highlighting privacy, legal, and civil liberties concerns as surveillance capabilities expand within domestic agencies like ICE.

Zero-Click Spyware and Government Use

  • Paragon Solutions' Graphite spyware can infect cell phones without user interaction, granting access to messages, calls, photos, location, and even encrypted apps.
  • ICE, via Homeland Security Investigations, now has access to Graphite following the Trump administration's lifting of a contract review pause.
  • Graphite operates by compromising devices directly, circumventing encryption by accessing data before or after it is encrypted/decrypted.

Legal and Oversight Issues

  • Biden’s Executive Order 14093 intended to restrict government spyware use, but has been undermined by executive decisions and agency arguments.
  • Legal requirements for warrants or wiretap orders are blurred, especially for border searches or rapidly evolving surveillance tech.
  • ICE often stretches its surveillance powers beyond immigration, raising concerns of broader misuse.

Risks, Impact, and Ripple Effects

  • While mass deployment of Graphite is unlikely, targeted use against activists, journalists, lawyers, and those in contact with immigrants is a real risk.
  • Infections can inadvertently expose contacts and networks of targeted individuals, expanding surveillance "collateral damage."
  • The threat of surveillance chills activism, reporting, and legal advocacy, weakening protections for vulnerable communities.

Precedents and the Pattern of Surveillance Expansion

  • Spyware and surveillance tools introduced for national security tend to spread to routine law enforcement and broader populations.
  • ICE's weak oversight exacerbates risks of abuse, as reporting and transparency requirements are minimal or nonexistent.
  • Other technologies (license plate readers, facial recognition) have similarly expanded past initial intended use cases.

Current Responses and Recommendations

  • Civil liberties groups and digital rights activists warn of inevitable misuse and call for transparency and legislative restraint.
  • Members of Congress and investigative journalists are attempting to uncover federal spyware deployments.

Practical Safety Measures

  • Keep phones updated to receive security patches.
  • Use precautionary features like Apple’s lockdown mode.
  • Continue using end-to-end encrypted apps for general protection against bulk surveillance.
  • Remain skeptical of official assurances regarding responsible use of surveillance tools.

Recommendations / Advice

  • Support comprehensive privacy legislation and demand greater oversight of surveillance technologies.
  • Be vigilant about device security, particularly if at higher risk for targeted surveillance.
  • Continue public advocacy and support journalism focused on privacy and surveillance issues.

Questions / Follow-Ups

  • Will ICE be required to report on the frequency, targets, and legal justifications for their use of Graphite?
  • How will legal limitations catch up to address rapidly advancing surveillance capabilities?
  • What additional protections can be established for vulnerable groups potentially targeted by these technologies?