This was a detailed interview with Seiki Chen, co-founder and CEO of Runway, hosted by Turner Novak.
Key topics included the viral launch and differentiation of Runway’s website, lessons from growth and product experiences at previous startups (Zynga, Postmates, Sandbox VR), and Runway’s vision to make business and finance accessible to everyone.
The conversation also explored principles of product design, team-building, remote work, and best practices in fundraising and storytelling for startups.
Key decisions and strategies on growth, hiring, positioning, and product development were shared, with particular emphasis on aligning company story and culture.
Action Items
(No explicit action items or due dates were mentioned in the transcript.)
Runway Website Launch and Growth Strategy
Runway’s new website went viral upon launch, driven by a deliberate strategy to break away from B2B best practices and create a unique, relatable design.
The website was not optimized for conversions but for attention, brand awareness, and differentiation, resulting in a high volume of leads and industry recognition.
Internal tools, including an AI-based lead qualification system, were used to manage the surge in traffic.
The approach emphasized the importance of thinking holistically about growth versus over-focusing on conversion metrics at the expense of top-of-funnel impact.
Product Philosophy and Enterprise Software Insights
Runway’s core mission is to make finance platforms more accessible and enjoyable for everyone, not just finance professionals.
The company aims to drive a shift in enterprise software towards consumer-grade usability, inspired by products like Figma, Airtable, and Notion.
Chen discussed the tension between building powerful features and ensuring software remains accessible, noting that new abstractions and primitives are needed to bridge this gap.
Early Career and Startup Lessons
Seiki Chen’s career began with opportunistic job-seeking and early exposure to engineering and design at NASA and several startups.
He emphasized learning by doing, taking on substantial rewrites and redesigns early in his career, and the value of luck and personal networks in landing early opportunities.
Chen highlighted the importance of unlearning consumer product instincts when moving into enterprise software, noting differences in user segmentation, value perception, and product adoption paths.
Experiences at Zynga, Postmates, and Sandbox VR
At Zynga, Chen led teams that built some of the fastest-growing products in internet history, learning to capitalize on viral growth and data-driven iteration.
At Postmates, he built and scaled the growth team, introducing experimentation and data instrumentation as core company practices.
As CEO of Sandbox VR, Chen helped the company navigate the COVID-19 pandemic, experiencing the challenges of physical retail operations and real estate strategy during a crisis.
Fundraising and Storytelling Approaches
Fundraising is treated as a sales process: minimize supply, maximize demand, and time meetings to create momentum and heat.
Chen recommends iterating the pitch based on the first objections raised by potential investors and focusing on both emotional engagement and the size of the possible outcome in the pitch narrative.
The importance of a unified company story—serving investors, customers, employees, and internal teams—was emphasized as essential for culture and external communications.
Runway Product Design and Evolution
Runway’s product leverages new abstractions (e.g., named rows, semantic formulas, integrated plans) to address the limitations of conventional spreadsheets (Excel, Sheets) in business planning and collaboration.
Integrations with tools like Asana, Jira, CRMs, and analytics platforms are central to Runway’s approach, aiming to connect finance with real operational data.
The product focus is on reducing complexity, enabling collaboration, and providing transparency into business operations and decisions.
Hiring, Organization, and Culture
Runway embraces remote work but supplements it with regular in-person offsites and on-sites to build team cohesion.
Hiring focuses on alignment with core company values (“give a shit,” build trust, create clarity, raise the bar), high agency, and the ability to improve the team.
The hiring process includes take-home exercises, virtual on-sites, technical/culture interviews, and a focus on storytelling and motivation.
Key Frameworks and Positioning
Chen applies a three-layer framework to storytelling: action (events), emotion (feelings), and worldview (beliefs or positioning).
A compelling position contrasts the prevailing (dominant) worldview with an underdog perspective, framing the company as the protagonist challenging the status quo.
The importance of aligning internal and external narratives was highlighted as a source of strategic strength.
Lessons on Building for Enterprise and Go-to-Market
Building for enterprise involves distinct challenges including product complexity, long sales cycles, and the need to serve multiple stakeholders.
Success requires patience, optimism, and belief in mission, as many great enterprise products (e.g., Figma, Airtable) required years before significant traction.
Team resilience and alignment around shared purpose and story are essential in the long, often difficult, “flat” parts of the product adoption curve.
Decisions
Deliberately did not follow B2B web design best practices — Chose a unique and bold design for maximum differentiation and attention, accepting lower initial conversion in favor of long-term brand impact and awareness.
Open Questions / Follow-Ups
No explicit open issues or follow-up questions were raised during the interview.