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Drone Motors Comparison: Smooth V2 vs Flow V2
Sep 14, 2024
Lecture Notes: Newbie Drone Motors - Smooth V2 and Flow V2
Overview
Focus on two motors from Newbie Drone: Smooth V2 2306.5 and Flow V2 2306.5.
Bench tests and thrust stand performance comparisons against other 5-inch motors.
Key feature: Unique single piece magnet design of the Smooth V2.
Flow V2 Motor
Design and Features
Unibell Motor:
Aluminum bell extends over the flux ring with a 10-spoke design.
Concern: Sharp edge could be prone to denting in crashes.
Disassembly:
Motor bell attached to stator by M3 screw (requires force and possible heating to remove).
Magnet Placement:
Magnets glued securely into the bell with adhesive.
Top Bearing Protection:
Lacks typical rubber o-ring and washer, potentially making it more vulnerable to impacts.
Dynamic Balancing:
Evidence of balancing within the motor.
Stator Design
Traditional design with two 9x4 mm bearings.
Neat single strand windings preferred for high power and performance.
Smooth V2 Motor
Design and Differences from Flow V2
Similar bell design (10-spoke, unibell construction).
Screw Type:
M2 countersunk screw instead of M3 (M2 may strip more easily).
Unique Feature:
Single piece ring magnet around the motor edge.
Top Bearing Protection:
Similar to Flow V2, lacks o-ring and washer.
Magnet Production Process
Standard Neodymium Magnets:
Produced by melting elements (neodymium, iron, boron) in vacuum, rapidly cooled, treated with hydrogen, and sintered.
Bonded Magnet for Smooth V2:
Involves mixing neodymium powder with polymer binder, molded into shape, then cured at low temperatures.
Allows for equal magnetization in all directions but results in lower maximum field strength compared to sintered magnets.
Typically contains 95-97% neodymium material.
Magnetic Strength Comparison
Smooth V2 (Bonded Magnet):
Peak field strength around 400-430 mT.
Flow V2 (Sintered Magnet):
Peak field strength around 470 mT (approx. 10% stronger).
Performance Testing
KV Measurement
Smooth V2 tested lower than stated KV (1650 KV vs. 1750 KV).
Flow V2 also tested lower but closer to spec (1800 KV vs. 1850 KV).
Switching bells affects KV due to changes in magnetic strength.
Thrust vs. Electrical Power
Smooth V2 produces less thrust at full throttle compared to Flow V2 (lower KV).
Swapping the Flow V2 stator with Smooth V2 bell results in more maximum thrust despite lower efficiency.
Torque vs. RPM
Torque measurement shows the Flow V2 generates greater torque (0.225 Nm) compared to the Smooth V2 (0.2 Nm).
Indicates lower performance of Smooth V2 in terms of responsiveness and torque.
Conclusions
Smooth V2 motors may not be optimized magnetically compared to other brands.
Marketing of smooth motors potentially misleading; smoothness relates to balancing rather than magnet strength.
Stronger magnets and higher torque lead to better responsiveness for flight controllers.
Support and Contributions
Encouragement to support the channel through Patreon.
Membership offers access to special Discord areas and input on future FPV designs.
Final Thoughts
Emphasis on the need for motors that are responsive and torque-rich for better flight experience.
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