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Drone Motors Comparison: Smooth V2 vs Flow V2

Sep 14, 2024

Lecture Notes: Newbie Drone Motors - Smooth V2 and Flow V2

Overview

  • Focus on two motors from Newbie Drone: Smooth V2 2306.5 and Flow V2 2306.5.
  • Bench tests and thrust stand performance comparisons against other 5-inch motors.
  • Key feature: Unique single piece magnet design of the Smooth V2.

Flow V2 Motor

Design and Features

  • Unibell Motor: Aluminum bell extends over the flux ring with a 10-spoke design.
    • Concern: Sharp edge could be prone to denting in crashes.
  • Disassembly: Motor bell attached to stator by M3 screw (requires force and possible heating to remove).
  • Magnet Placement: Magnets glued securely into the bell with adhesive.
  • Top Bearing Protection: Lacks typical rubber o-ring and washer, potentially making it more vulnerable to impacts.
  • Dynamic Balancing: Evidence of balancing within the motor.

Stator Design

  • Traditional design with two 9x4 mm bearings.
  • Neat single strand windings preferred for high power and performance.

Smooth V2 Motor

Design and Differences from Flow V2

  • Similar bell design (10-spoke, unibell construction).
  • Screw Type: M2 countersunk screw instead of M3 (M2 may strip more easily).
  • Unique Feature: Single piece ring magnet around the motor edge.
  • Top Bearing Protection: Similar to Flow V2, lacks o-ring and washer.

Magnet Production Process

  • Standard Neodymium Magnets: Produced by melting elements (neodymium, iron, boron) in vacuum, rapidly cooled, treated with hydrogen, and sintered.
  • Bonded Magnet for Smooth V2: Involves mixing neodymium powder with polymer binder, molded into shape, then cured at low temperatures.
    • Allows for equal magnetization in all directions but results in lower maximum field strength compared to sintered magnets.
    • Typically contains 95-97% neodymium material.

Magnetic Strength Comparison

  • Smooth V2 (Bonded Magnet): Peak field strength around 400-430 mT.
  • Flow V2 (Sintered Magnet): Peak field strength around 470 mT (approx. 10% stronger).

Performance Testing

KV Measurement

  • Smooth V2 tested lower than stated KV (1650 KV vs. 1750 KV).
  • Flow V2 also tested lower but closer to spec (1800 KV vs. 1850 KV).
  • Switching bells affects KV due to changes in magnetic strength.

Thrust vs. Electrical Power

  • Smooth V2 produces less thrust at full throttle compared to Flow V2 (lower KV).
  • Swapping the Flow V2 stator with Smooth V2 bell results in more maximum thrust despite lower efficiency.

Torque vs. RPM

  • Torque measurement shows the Flow V2 generates greater torque (0.225 Nm) compared to the Smooth V2 (0.2 Nm).
  • Indicates lower performance of Smooth V2 in terms of responsiveness and torque.

Conclusions

  • Smooth V2 motors may not be optimized magnetically compared to other brands.
  • Marketing of smooth motors potentially misleading; smoothness relates to balancing rather than magnet strength.
  • Stronger magnets and higher torque lead to better responsiveness for flight controllers.

Support and Contributions

  • Encouragement to support the channel through Patreon.
    • Membership offers access to special Discord areas and input on future FPV designs.

Final Thoughts

  • Emphasis on the need for motors that are responsive and torque-rich for better flight experience.